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by Tim F|  October 12, 20154:01 pm| 131 Comments

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Give three reasons why you should not be selected as the next Republican Speaker of the House. Here are mine.

1. When I try to dodge a global warming question with that I’m not a scientist baloney someone can call BS on me. Because in fact I am a scientist.

2. I can lie, cheat, steal or fuck a chicken. All at once? That’s out of my league.

3. Being a strict Biblical literalist, I might feel obligated to stone the first motherfucker who shows up wearing mixed fabrics*.

Your turn. Later we can vote on the least compelling set of excuses and that person will get added to the next slate of Speaker candidates. You could skip the thread and take your chances, but I don’t recommend it. A few months of this crap and Boehner might resort to a draft.

(*) Leviticus 19:19

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  1. 1.

    JPL

    October 12, 2015 at 4:03 pm

    Since Tim Cotton wants Cheney, maybe I should mention that I’ve never gone hunting, while drunk. Also I never shot a friend in the face, while hunting. I never owned a rifle.

  2. 2.

    sstarr

    October 12, 2015 at 4:08 pm

    So about Leviticus 19:19 …. are polyester or spandex blends OK? I assume God is just furious about mixing the natural fabrics.

  3. 3.

    Richard Mayhew

    October 12, 2015 at 4:08 pm

    1) My dog ate my homework
    2) I like my family and want to see my kids without hanging my head in shame due to the company that I keep.
    3) Vodka is not just for breakfast

  4. 4.

    Richard Mayhew

    October 12, 2015 at 4:08 pm

    @sstarr: no those are never Ok, but for non-bibilical reasons.

  5. 5.

    Just Some Fuckhead

    October 12, 2015 at 4:09 pm

    1. I’m renovating my kitchen.
    2. The masturbation thing.
    3. The masturbation thing.

  6. 6.

    Mudge

    October 12, 2015 at 4:10 pm

    Me?
    1. Having an affair with Renee Elmers.
    2. Assisted Bernie Madoff.
    3. Related to someone who has signed up for Obamacare.

  7. 7.

    EconWatcher

    October 12, 2015 at 4:11 pm

    Fun! Here are mine:
    1. While I’ve done some coaching, I’ve never molested any member of my team.
    2. I’m usually sober until at least 4 pm.
    3. I have never received extramarital oral pleasure in a parking lot during a break in hearings I’m leading to impeach the President for the same thing.

  8. 8.

    shell

    October 12, 2015 at 4:11 pm

    I actually DONT want to blow up the government.

  9. 9.

    KG

    October 12, 2015 at 4:12 pm

    1. I took an online quiz about whether I was a sociopath and it said I “probably wasn’t a sociopath”
    2. I believe in the separation of church and state
    3. I’m a single straight man, so it will be more difficult to determine if I’ve engaged in a sex scandal*

    *honestly speaking, the odds of me having political power and not using it as a pick up line in Georgetown bars on any day that ends in “y” is probably off the boards.

  10. 10.

    KG

    October 12, 2015 at 4:14 pm

    @EconWatcher: “usually”, “sober”, and “at least 4 p.m.” are words/phrases open for debate in DC.

  11. 11.

    Simon Taverner

    October 12, 2015 at 4:15 pm

    1) I’m consumed with the conviction that “Chuck Todd” is an imperative, not a name
    2) If elected speaker, the skeletons in my closet would act as a “Greek chorus”, loudly bewailing my every utterance on the house floor
    3) I once shot a man in Reno, just to watch him die

  12. 12.

    Gator90

    October 12, 2015 at 4:16 pm

    @Betty Cracker

    And, just like that, it’s not quite as great anymore. Sigh.

  13. 13.

    Amir Khalid

    October 12, 2015 at 4:16 pm

    1. I’m Malaysian.

    2. Unlike Kevin McCarthy, the Republican party’s first choice, I speak English.

    3. If I had a little wooden hammer on me, I’d look like a low-budget Thor.

  14. 14.

    Eric U.

    October 12, 2015 at 4:17 pm

    I was trying to figure out why Balloon Juice locks up firefox. I think one of the advertisers is trying to figure out where I am, “locale services” Not sure why my comp doesn’t answer that question, but I’m about to install the disconnect plugin to see if that fixes it. Chrome doesn’t have this problem. If you look up issues like this on the Mozilla site, they know they have problems with the locale services, and offer some workaround.

  15. 15.

    Betty Cracker

    October 12, 2015 at 4:18 pm

    @Gator90: It’s my fault, man. I brought on this calamity by finally getting excited about the season, making a jinx operational. Goddamn it!

  16. 16.

    AliceBlue

    October 12, 2015 at 4:20 pm

    I thought Amir had already passed the test to be the Speaker.

    EDIT: And I see he’s changed his mind!

  17. 17.

    Iowa Old Lady

    October 12, 2015 at 4:21 pm

    I have to complain that I’m getting robocalls inviting me to meet Ben Carson this weekend.

  18. 18.

    benw

    October 12, 2015 at 4:21 pm

    1. I love playing fetch and snoozing on the couch.
    2. I really love petting and dinner time.
    3. I am a dog.

  19. 19.

    Mathguy

    October 12, 2015 at 4:21 pm

    1. I’m sane,
    2. Not a goatfucker,
    3. Have not committed blood libel.

  20. 20.

    Shakezula

    October 12, 2015 at 4:22 pm

    1. My cats would not approve of all the reporters on the lawn.
    2. I actually live in D.C. and don’t hate it.
    3. Would not be able to control urge to shoot paper clips at Gohmert’s big, misshapen melon.

  21. 21.

    Steeplejack (phone)

    October 12, 2015 at 4:24 pm

    @Eric U.:

    FWIW, Balloon Juice and Firefox (on Windows 10) are working fine for me. I am running Adblock Plus.

  22. 22.

    shell

    October 12, 2015 at 4:24 pm

    I insist on being sworn in with the Koran. Um, no, I’m not Muslim.

  23. 23.

    Comrade Dread

    October 12, 2015 at 4:25 pm

    1. Guns: I support background checks, requiring gun liability insurance, a national register, criminal liability for gun owners whose weapons are used to commit a crime, making the NRA safety tips into laws, keeping guns from domestic abusers, stalkers, and the mentally ill, and a more robust national buyback program.

    2. I want corporate criminals to go to jail, not pay fines.

    3. I want to raise the top tier income tax, capital gains tax, impose a transaction tax on financial trades, slash and hack the Pentagon budget, and use the money to fund an extensive jobs program in the United States that pays a living wage, as well as provide money for public day care and preschools, fund a single payer health care system, and pay down the national debt.

  24. 24.

    Comrade Dread

    October 12, 2015 at 4:26 pm

    @benw: I’d vote for you.

  25. 25.

    Brachiator

    October 12, 2015 at 4:26 pm

    Here are mine:

    1. I love Charles Darwin and Alfred Russel Wallace more than I love the baby Jebus.
    2. I got no fvcks to give the GOP.
    3. Like Captain Kirk, I do not believe in no-win scenarios.
    4. Not good at following orders, so could not stop at 3 reasons.

  26. 26.

    benw

    October 12, 2015 at 4:26 pm

    @Amir Khalid:

    3. If I had a little wooden hammer on me, I’d look like a low-budget Thor.

    pics or GTFO!

  27. 27.

    scav

    October 12, 2015 at 4:27 pm

    A. I speak French.
    B. I believe in Gravity.
    C. I like Trains.

  28. 28.

    Comrade Dread

    October 12, 2015 at 4:27 pm

    @Simon Taverner:

    3) I once shot a man in Reno, just to watch him die

    I think that would be a plus with the Republican party.

  29. 29.

    Comrade Dread

    October 12, 2015 at 4:28 pm

    @shell: Necronomicon, bound in human flesh.

  30. 30.

    Wally Ballou

    October 12, 2015 at 4:29 pm

    Cloudy but warm on this late afternoon in SE Michigan, so I’m lounging on my balcony reading and listening to playoff baseball on the radio. There are far worse ways to pass the time.

    Great comeback by the Royals this afternoon. Trailing by four runs going into the 8th inning of an elimination game, they were able to tie things up before the Astros recorded an out.

    The Blue Jays, also facing elimination on this Canadian Thanksgiving, jumped to a three-run lead in the first. Noyce.

  31. 31.

    narya

    October 12, 2015 at 4:30 pm

    1. I am an atheist. And I was raised by atheists.
    2. I agree with Comrade Dread on the guns.
    3. And with the Comrade on the taxes, though possibly not on the Pentagon thing; we’ll need to hash that out before we run for office. I definitely want to get rid of the flying Swiss army knife, and I definitely want to repair the infrastructure.
    4. I believe in public schools. Year-round. Well-funded. Well-paid teachers.

  32. 32.

    benw

    October 12, 2015 at 4:32 pm

    @Comrade Dread: making a dog the Republican speaker is animal cruelty. Woof!

  33. 33.

    Peale

    October 12, 2015 at 4:33 pm

    1) My first act would be drafting legislation to surrender unconditionally to Aruba. I’m tired of our ongoing war and figure it’s time for us to man-up and apologize.

    2) I do not brook colleagues who get caught up with minor details like committee assignments and office locations. Cubicles for everyone (except the speaker, of course).

    4) I’m not very good at math, including counting. I would never call for a roll call vote if it meant I had to keep track of numbers higher than five.

  34. 34.

    lgerard

    October 12, 2015 at 4:35 pm

    1. I don’t own a firearm to wave around haphazardly in defiance of all obvious safety considerations
    2. I believe that the 10 Commandments should be displayed in corporate boardrooms, not schools
    3. I am unwilling to display my ignorance in public hearings and committee meetings

  35. 35.

    Ajabu

    October 12, 2015 at 4:36 pm

    Here’s mine:

    1) To my everlasting joy, I’ve never actually known a republican personally. (Well, I’ve probably met some but I’m from the Caribbean and they would have been on the down low. They tend to keep that shit to themselves in the islands…)

    2) I’ve been married to the same woman for 24 years and never felt the urge for any trim on the side.

    3) One of my uncles – a drummer with no other skill set (runs in the family) – got through the entire depression playing drums in the park for the WPA.

  36. 36.

    ? Martin

    October 12, 2015 at 4:37 pm

    1) I would secretly disburse ebola in my first meeting with the Republican caucus and then adjourn so representatives could fundraise for 3 weeks.
    2) You don’t want to know about 2.
    3) You don’t want to know about 3.

  37. 37.

    Calouste

    October 12, 2015 at 4:37 pm

    1. I wouldn’t let any Republican-sponsored bill be brought up for a vote unless they pass a bill abolishing the 2nd amendment first.
    2. I would prominently publish the names of Representatives who miss votes and committee meetings, and how often they do it.
    3. I would make the House work something resembling a 5-day, 40-hour week.

  38. 38.

    boatboy_srq

    October 12, 2015 at 4:37 pm

    Here goes:
    1) My husband (assuming I ever get one) wouldn’t allow it.
    2) I understand that family finances and the federal budget bear no resemblance one to the other.
    3) Being (slightly) older than five, I don’t take kindly to children throwing tantrums instead of doing their homework and eating their vegetables.

  39. 39.

    Baud

    October 12, 2015 at 4:38 pm

    Rick Perry could not pass this test.

    (Oops.)

  40. 40.

    Mike in NC

    October 12, 2015 at 4:39 pm

    (1) Pretty sure that the Earth is more than 6000 years old and not flat.
    (2) Believe that women over the age of 15 shouldn’t be kept in the kitchen, barefoot and pregnant.
    (3) Suspect that invading and occupying Iran might not be a complete cakewalk.

  41. 41.

    ? Martin

    October 12, 2015 at 4:40 pm

    @Baud: There’s our winner.

  42. 42.

    Chris

    October 12, 2015 at 4:41 pm

    1) I know how many homes I own.

    2) I can name the newspapers I read.

    3) I CAN’T see Russia from my house.

    4) I can actually pronounce “Uzbekistan.” AND I know who its president is.

  43. 43.

    Big R

    October 12, 2015 at 4:43 pm

    1. I aspire to the federal bench rather than the back bench.

    2. I have been photographed in Albert Einstein’s lap (I was in college, I was young, I was stupid).

    3. I once stopped going to a Chinese restaurant because I noticed that they had a lot of stray cats around, but never the same ones twice.

  44. 44.

    boatboy_srq

    October 12, 2015 at 4:44 pm

    @? Martin: If you were President I’d hate to be your Surgeon General.

  45. 45.

    Chris

    October 12, 2015 at 4:46 pm

    @Ajabu:

    You’re not missing out on # 1.

  46. 46.

    Baud

    October 12, 2015 at 4:46 pm

    1) I’m a Democrat.
    2) I’m a liberal.
    3) I’m going to be the next President of the United States.

  47. 47.

    Peale

    October 12, 2015 at 4:48 pm

    Other things I’d do

    1) I’d replace c-Span and c-Span 2 with channels devoted to Thai TV series and pornography of my colleagues’ choosing.

    2) Do you really want to know what kind of porn your representative is into?

    3) Instead of the Bible, I would swear in on the holy book of my people. Which you infidels refer to as “the screenplay to Frozen.”

  48. 48.

    Baud

    October 12, 2015 at 4:50 pm

    @Peale:

    2) Do you really want to know what kind of porn your representative is into?

    All of them, Katie!

  49. 49.

    dmsilev

    October 12, 2015 at 4:50 pm

    1. I was born in France, grew up in Massachusetts, and have just moved to California. I think I’ve hit the liberal geographical trifecta with that history.

    2. Like Tim F., I am a scientist.

    3. I promise that my first act as Speaker would be to use that mighty ceremonial gavel in a somewhat less ceremonious fashion. It would in fact become the Hammer of Stupidity Smiting. And I would preside with it as often as possible.

  50. 50.

    Chris

    October 12, 2015 at 4:51 pm

    @Peale:

    # 3 – when your enemies spend an absurd amount of time being outraged by your choice of holy books, I hope you tell them to just let it go.

  51. 51.

    Baud

    October 12, 2015 at 4:53 pm

    @Richard Mayhew:

    2) I like my family and want to see my kids without hanging my head in shame due to the company that I keep.

    Too late. You’re a front pager here.

  52. 52.

    benw

    October 12, 2015 at 4:53 pm

    @Peale:

    I would swear in on the holy book of my people. Which you infidels refer to as “the screenplay to Frozen.”

    Come on, man, it’s time to let it go.

    ETA: DAMN YOU, CHRIS.

  53. 53.

    Chris

    October 12, 2015 at 4:54 pm

    @benw:

    Beat you to it.

    ETA: loooooool.

  54. 54.

    JPL

    October 12, 2015 at 4:54 pm

    @Betty Cracker: This is good news for GA. Greer is appealing though.

  55. 55.

    Mingobat f/k/a Karen in GA

    October 12, 2015 at 4:58 pm

    1. Iggy the Wonder Schnauzer deserves to hear his shrieks echoing in the halls of power.

    2. Muppet, SP/SCF (Semi-Poodle/Secret Caffeinated Ferret), being mildly psychotic, would fit right in.

    3. I could use the vacation time.

    ETA: Whoops. I thought it was “give reasons why you SHOULD be elected.” Long day. I need several naps.

  56. 56.

    seaboogie

    October 12, 2015 at 5:05 pm

    1. I think Nancy Smash is scary – as in scary good, and would work across the aisle with her on every bill, every time.

    2. I’d put on an “I’m NOT with STUPID” shirt, with arrows pointing in both directions and make sure that I was there anytime a Freedom Caucus member was being interviewed.

    3. Baud! 2016! as party whip – with an actual whip.

  57. 57.

    dmsilev

    October 12, 2015 at 5:05 pm

    @Mingobat f/k/a Karen in GA: That gives me an idea of where to find an actual nominee for the position. Back when Illinois Governor Blago was booted out of office for trying to auction off Obama’s old Senate seat, someone suggested appointing their border collie to the position. I think that would work well here; I’m sure GOP representatives would be much more controllable and docile if there was a herding dog nipping them on the flanks until they moved in the right direction.

  58. 58.

    RK

    October 12, 2015 at 5:08 pm

    1. White isn’t my favorite color

    2. I don’t exalt power and greed

    3. See 1 and 2

  59. 59.

    a hip hop artist from Idaho (fka Bella Q)

    October 12, 2015 at 5:13 pm

    1) I would insist upon being sworn in by affirmation under penalty of perjury rather than on a holy book
    2) I have a (nearly) working command of standard American English and thus would sound unintelligible to the majority of US House members
    3) I’ve always preferred to believe an insane adventure should contain elements of actual fun

  60. 60.

    Germy Shoemangler

    October 12, 2015 at 5:15 pm

    INDIANAPOLIS — An Indiana woman says her training in medieval combat helped her corner a home intruder.

    The Indianapolis Star reports 43-year-old Karen Dolley of Indianapolis threw punches until she had the man cornered during the Thursday night break-in. She then kept him subdued with a Japanese sword she keeps near her bed.

    Dolley says she learned to fight as a teenager in the Society for Creative Anachronism, a group that recreates skills of the Middle Ages. She also skates with roller derby team Naptown Roller Girls.

    Police responding to Dolley’s 911 call arrested 30-year-old Jacob Wessel of Greenwood, charging him with residential entry. Police say he forced open the home’s back door. Police reports say he was taken to a hospital because he was high on an unknown substance.

  61. 61.

    Brachiator

    October 12, 2015 at 5:15 pm

    Who says Canadians don’t know how to party? They are apparently combining early voting with Halloween.

    Early voting has risen significantly this year in Canada ahead of the 19 October elections, with nearly 1.6 million people casting ballots so far.

    Voting numbers show a 34% increase from advance polling in the 2011 election, according to Elections Canada.

    Long lines at polling stations included people dressed up in costumes to make political statements.

    Voters are allowed to wear costumes and masks as long as they take an oath and provide identification.

    Some voters wore costumes and masks to protest over the proposed Conservative law banning wearing niqabs during citizenship ceremonies.

    http://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-34508336

    Much more fun than voter suppression.

  62. 62.

    trollhattan

    October 12, 2015 at 5:19 pm

    Okay, so this is West Virginia’s version of a Democrat?

    A billionaire coal executive, who recently left the Republican party to run for West Virginia’s governorship, owes close to $4 million in back taxes, the Lexington Herald-Leader reports. Jim Justice, who controls multiple coal companies in Kentucky, is currently $3.5 million behind on property taxes and fines owed to some of Kentucky’s poorer communities.

    Justice, with an estimated net worth of $1.7 billion, is a political neophyte who switched from the GOP to the Democratic Party earlier this year.

    Speaking for his father, Jay Justice said his dad would be taking care of all of his tax obligations — dating back to 2013 — saying, ” “We will make good on all our obligations in Kentucky.”

    This is not the first time Justice has had Kentucky come after him for money owed. In August 2014, Justice was cited for violations at mines he owns in Eastern Kentucky and agreed to post $10.6 million in bonds to fix the problems after reaching a deal with the state.

  63. 63.

    BC in Illinois

    October 12, 2015 at 5:20 pm

    For Brachiator, Narya, Peale and Chris . . .

    Thou must count to three. Three shall be the number of the counting and the number of the counting shall be three. Four shalt thou not count, neither shalt thou count two, excepting that thou then proceedeth to three. Five is right out. Once the number three, being the number of the counting, be reached . . .

    then all hell breaks loose.

  64. 64.

    feebog

    October 12, 2015 at 5:20 pm

    1. I actually know that Hungria is not a country.

    2. I think the “Hastart” rule is something a pedophile made up one day while fondly gazing at a page’s backside.

    3. My calves actually are the size of a cantaloupe.

  65. 65.

    Schlemazel

    October 12, 2015 at 5:20 pm

    I actually would make a good SotH and should be given the job!

    1) I believe the 2nd amendment as written (people who show up for the monthly drills on the village green should own as many muzzle-loaded muskets as they want!!)

    2) I believe the Teahadists and American Taliban should run free in the halls of Congress and let their full list of demands be publicly proposed and voted on.

    3) I have no further ambitions for public office so when the loonies come for me with their knives drawn I won’t cry (they had best be wearing their Kevlar undies but don’t need a crying towel)

    Further I promise to never ever compromise with President Baud, he and the Senate will just have to run the country without us.

  66. 66.

    FlyingToaster

    October 12, 2015 at 5:21 pm

    1. I’m from Massachusetts — worse, Watertown, Massachusetts.
    2. I have both an AARP card and an 8-year old.
    3. I can do math (well, up to calculus, diffEQ and linear algebra).
    4. Don’t really give a fuck whether someone calls me a socialist.

  67. 67.

    Brachiator

    October 12, 2015 at 5:21 pm

    @Germy Shoemangler:

    An Indiana woman says her training in medieval combat helped her corner a home intruder.

    So, when this woman says, “I’m about to get medieval on your ass,” she is not just quoting Marsellus Wallace in “Pulp Fiction.”

  68. 68.

    Fred

    October 12, 2015 at 5:21 pm

    1) If nominated I will not run.
    2) If elected I will not serve.
    3) I got nuthin’.

  69. 69.

    CzarChasm

    October 12, 2015 at 5:22 pm

    1.) I am male and have long hair without being a libertarian.

    2.) I am deeply in love with my hetero partner of 14.5 years, and we have just had our first child, a daughter. It goes screwball when I mention that we’ve been co-habitating this whole time without being married (and currently still living in sin).

    3.) I work with the intellectually disabled, and don’t look down on them as either Takers, moochers, or afflicted by God for unknowable sin.

  70. 70.

    Roger Moore

    October 12, 2015 at 5:23 pm

    1) I’m an atheist
    2) I would demand to be called “Speaking Dude” instead of “Mr. Speaker”
    3) Somebody would notice I was reading Nancy Pelosi’s cue cards

  71. 71.

    gogol's wife

    October 12, 2015 at 5:23 pm

    @Eric U.:

    I’ve given up trying to read it on Firefox. I use Chrome or Safari.

  72. 72.

    Chris

    October 12, 2015 at 5:24 pm

    @BC in Illinois:

    One! Two! Five!

  73. 73.

    seaboogie

    October 12, 2015 at 5:28 pm

    @Brachiator: I love Canadians for their earnestness, progressiveness, and sense of humour (Canadian spelling).

    I lived there for 25 years and most of my family still resides there. My favorite party – the Rhinoceros Party – is now defunct, but they were a gas….here is a link:

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rhinoceros_Party_of_Canada_(1963%E2%80%9393)

  74. 74.

    Roger Moore

    October 12, 2015 at 5:32 pm

    @Chris:

    One! Two! Five!

    Three, sir.

  75. 75.

    Thor Heyerdahl

    October 12, 2015 at 5:35 pm

    @seaboogie:

    I lived there for 25 years and most of my family still resides there. My favorite party – the Rhinoceros Party – is now defunct, but they were a gas….here is a link:

    Actually they’re back since 2007 (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rhinoceros_Party)

    Some of their promises include (from Wiki)

    Reform the retail lottery scheme by replacing cash prizes with Senate appointments
    Seat the Queen of Canada in Buckingham, Quebec (their official site says that they’ll also privatize her)
    Nationalize Tim Horton’s
    Move the national capital to Kapuskasing, Ontario
    Guaranteed monthly orgasms

  76. 76.

    Ian

    October 12, 2015 at 5:37 pm

    @Comrade Dread:
    Preach it brother(or sister)! sounds like a great (democratic) speaker of the house.

  77. 77.

    Chris

    October 12, 2015 at 5:37 pm

    @Roger Moore:

    Three!

  78. 78.

    Omnes Omnibus

    October 12, 2015 at 5:41 pm

    @Thor Heyerdahl: Monthly?

  79. 79.

    Jeffro

    October 12, 2015 at 5:53 pm

    @Mudge: #1, omg, you too?

    And here I thought I was special …

  80. 80.

    seaboogie

    October 12, 2015 at 5:55 pm

    @Omnes Omnibus: A very Canadian trait is their restraint, but also willing to include orgasms at all is quite progressive. And do notice that they did not specify that orgasms are only for the fellas while they regulate the hell out of what woment can do with their bodies like here in the US.

    In fact, this article of the platform was probably written by their distaff wing, and might could represent an increase in their annual orgasm tally – as in “do you fellas even KNOW what you are doing down there?”

  81. 81.

    Thor Heyerdahl

    October 12, 2015 at 5:55 pm

    @Omnes Omnibus: It’s designed to confuse the religious conservatives, with 5 children who have had sex 5 times in their life but never an orgasm.

  82. 82.

    Just Some Fuckhead

    October 12, 2015 at 5:59 pm

    @? Martin:

    2) You don’t want to know about 2.

    3) You don’t want to know about 3.

    You too, huh?

  83. 83.

    Omnes Omnibus

    October 12, 2015 at 6:00 pm

    @seaboogie: @Thor Heyerdahl: It seemed like over promising to me.

  84. 84.

    A guy

    October 12, 2015 at 6:00 pm

    1. I’m too smart to be a politician

    2. I think abortion and the death penalty are bad

    3. I’m too smart to be a politician

  85. 85.

    Schlemazel

    October 12, 2015 at 6:03 pm

    @Roger Moore:
    There is a place online where you can buy your own Holy Handgranade of Antioch!

    http://eurobrews.com/shop/holy-hand-grenade/

  86. 86.

    Bill Arnold

    October 12, 2015 at 6:10 pm

    @Just Some Fuckhead:

    You too, huh?

    Well, it could be that 2,3 are his (secret) backup plans if 1 doesn’t work.

  87. 87.

    seaboogie

    October 12, 2015 at 6:13 pm

    @A guy: I think I hear your mother calling – time for dinner.

  88. 88.

    SiubhanDuinne

    October 12, 2015 at 6:20 pm

    @Germy Shoemangler:

    Oooh! Do you have a link for that, please? I’d love to share it with a medieval history group I follow on FB. Thanks!

  89. 89.

    redshirt

    October 12, 2015 at 6:22 pm

    1. Sold my soul for a keg in 1988
    2. First concert was Starship
    3. Once wore all denim outfit

  90. 90.

    Suezboo

    October 12, 2015 at 6:22 pm

    1. I am a British citizen permanently resident in SAfrica – that should confuzzle the birthers.
    2. I dislike all organised religion.
    3. I believe women should be in charge of everything.
    4. I am the same age as Hillary and they think she is Too Old.
    5. The list goes on on on

  91. 91.

    catclub

    October 12, 2015 at 6:23 pm

    I think the article at Washington Monthly – about another article – about the long view successes of Obama’s foreign
    policy, is a big deal.

    http://www.washingtonmonthly.com/political-animal-a/2015_10/president_obama_a_grand_strate058050.php

  92. 92.

    redshirt

    October 12, 2015 at 6:25 pm

    @Suezboo: Do you have diplomatic immunity?

  93. 93.

    danielx

    October 12, 2015 at 6:31 pm

    1. Don’t believe government is responsible for all evils.
    2. This issue where I start frothing at the mouth when I detect willful ignorance and stupidity.
    3. Do not believe the baby jeebus will cry if Ten Commandments tablets are removed from public property.

  94. 94.

    Richard mayhew

    October 12, 2015 at 6:40 pm

    @Baud: they have low expectations of me not no expectations

  95. 95.

    Suezboo

    October 12, 2015 at 6:42 pm

    @redshirt:

    No, I am always hoping to be deported so that I can visit the Home Planet but they just toss my UK ass in jail. Every damn time.

  96. 96.

    Tara the Antisocial Social Worker

    October 12, 2015 at 6:44 pm

    1. I’m queer, but prefer my liasons in bed with my wife instead of with random individuals in public restrooms.

    2. I think birth control should be free and easily accessible, and guns should only be available in clinics where the buyer has to walk past a gauntlet of placard-waving protesters, then have a psychological exam, a 72-hour waiting period, signed parental permission, and a random unnecessary medical procedure.

    3. I actually know what’s in the Bible.

  97. 97.

    WereBear

    October 12, 2015 at 6:47 pm

    1) I can count to one thousand and have done so once.

    2) Believe that cats over the age of five should be allowed to vote.

    3) I have the ability to be nice to anyone for fifteen minutes.

  98. 98.

    Grumpy Code Monkey

    October 12, 2015 at 6:49 pm

    1. I don’t give a fuck about the party;
    2. I don’t give a fuck about your party;
    3. Fuck it, let’s party.

  99. 99.

    Acetaria Caesar

    October 12, 2015 at 6:51 pm

    @seaboogie: The Rhinoceros Party is still alive. I invite you to follow our campaign. Almost alla rticles about our candidates can be read on https://www.facebook.com/riki.rhino

  100. 100.

    Seanly

    October 12, 2015 at 6:55 pm

    1) I am sliding more & more to the left of the Democratic Party
    2) I am an engineer (usually a plus for Republicans) but I know the following:
    a) we need to raise the gas tax to repair our infrastructure
    b) we need to institute additional carbon taxes or cap & trade to address climate change
    c) we need to reduce our military spending
    d) let’s go ahead and have socialized medical/dental/mental health care for all
    e) lots of job training and a minimum guaranteed income
    f) women should have autonomy over their own bodies
    g) corporations are not people – CEO’s are and can go to jail
    3) Go back over my list in #2 to emphasize all those points again

  101. 101.

    seaboogie

    October 12, 2015 at 7:00 pm

    Okay, so since this is an OT, here is another link – Duggar related – to choose why you might not want to be SotH (sorry for the Huffpo link): http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/law-and-order-svu-duggars-episode_561bc543e4b0082030a3278a

    and my reason number 4:

    I believe in consenting adult whatever you wanna do sexy-times, not in intra-family creepy groping nor intra-mural sports buggery with a minor, with babby Jesus forgiving me, and please send money.

  102. 102.

    mclaren

    October 12, 2015 at 7:03 pm

    1) I’m sane.
    2) I can form a coherent sentence.
    3) My amygdala is normal size and is not misfiring to send me into non-stop frothing purple-faced uncontrollable rage, .

  103. 103.

    A guy

    October 12, 2015 at 7:11 pm

    4. I’d never vote for a Muslim for president

  104. 104.

    seaboogie

    October 12, 2015 at 7:12 pm

    @mclaren: Hmmmm….Imma give you number two, but the link on the third point is kind of disturbing, and didn’t you recently invoke Hitler/Holocaust on a recent post?

  105. 105.

    seaboogie

    October 12, 2015 at 7:12 pm

    @A guy: Dinner is getting cold – hurry home!

  106. 106.

    mclaren

    October 12, 2015 at 7:12 pm

    Emotional Regulation Disorder is a serious condition which is believed to affect between 1-3% of the general population yet despite being so prevalent is not commonly understood.

    The following list is a collection of some of the more commonly observed behaviors and traits of those who suffer from BPD /ERD.

    Alienation – The act of cutting off or interfering with an individual’s relationships with others.

    “Always” and “Never” Statements – “Always” and “Never” Statements are declarations containing the words “always” or “never”. They are commonly used but rarely true.

    Anger – People who suffer from personality disorders often feel a sense of unresolved anger and a heightened or exaggerated perception that they have been wronged, invalidated, neglected or abused.

    Baiting – A provocative act used to solicit an angry, aggressive or emotional response from another individual.

    Blaming – The practice of identifying a person or people responsible for creating a problem, rather than identifying ways of dealing with the problem.

    Bullying – Any systematic action of hurting a person from a position of relative physical, social, economic or emotional strength.

    Catastrophizing – The habit of automatically assuming a “worst case scenario” and inappropriately characterizing minor or moderate problems or issues as catastrophic events.

    Chaos Manufacture – Unnecessarily creating or maintaining an environment of risk, destruction, confusion or mess.

    Cheating – Sharing a romantic or intimate relationship with somebody when you are already committed to a monogamous relationship with someone else.

    Circular Conversations – Arguments which go on almost endlessly, repeating the same patterns with no resolution.

    Cognitive Dissonance – A psychological term for the discomfort that most people feel when they encounter information which contradicts their existing set of beliefs or values. People who suffer from personality disorders often experience cognitive dissonance when they are confronted with evidence that their actions have hurt others or have contradicted their stated morals.

    “Control-Me” Syndrome – This describes a tendency which some people have to foster relationships with people who have a controlling narcissistic, antisocial or “acting-out” nature.

    Denial – Believing or imagining that some painful or traumatic circumstance, event or memory does not exist or did not happen.

    Dependency – An inappropriate and chronic reliance by an adult individual on another individual for their health, subsistence, decision making or personal and emotional well-being.

    Depression – People who suffer from personality disorders are often also diagnosed with symptoms of depression.

    Dissociation- A psychological term used to describe a mental departure from reality.

    Domestic Theft – Consuming or taking control of a resource or asset belonging to (or shared with) a family member, partner or spouse without first obtaining their approval.

    Emotional Blackmail – A system of threats and punishments used in an attempt to control someone’s behaviors.

    Engulfment – An unhealthy and overwhelming level of attention and dependency on another person, which comes from imagining or believing one exists only within the context of that relationship.

    Sense of Entitlement – An unrealistic, unmerited or inappropriate expectation of favorable living conditions and favorable treatment at the hands of others.

    False Accusations – Patterns of unwarranted or exaggerated criticism directed towards someone else.

    Favoritism – Favoritism is the practice of systematically giving positive, preferential treatment to one child, subordinate or associate among a family or group of peers.

    Fear of Abandonment – An irrational belief that one is imminent danger of being personally rejected, discarded or replaced.

    Frivolous Litigation – The use of unmerited legal proceedings to hurt, harass or gain an economic advantage over an individual or organization.

    Gaslighting – The practice of brainwashing or convincing a mentally healthy individual that they are going insane or that their understanding of reality is mistaken or false. The term “Gaslighting” is based on the 1944 MGM movie “Gaslight”.

    Harassment – Any sustained or chronic pattern of unwelcome behavior by one individual towards another.

    High and Low-Functioning – A High-Functioning Personality-Disordered Individual is one who is able to conceal their dysfunctional behavior in certain public settings and maintain a positive public or professional profile while exposing their negative traits to family members behind closed doors. A Low-Functioning Personality-Disordered Individual is one who is unable to conceal their dysfunctional behavior from public view or maintain a positive public or professional profile.

    Hoovers & Hoovering – A Hoover is a metaphor taken from the popular brand of vacuum cleaners, to describe how an abuse victim trying to assert their own rights by leaving or limiting contact in a dysfunctional relationship, gets “sucked back in” when the perpetrator temporarily exhibits improved or desirable behavior.

    Hysteria – An inappropriate over-reaction to bad news or disappointments, which diverts attention away from the real problem and towards the person who is having the reaction.

    Identity Disturbance – A psychological term used to describe a distorted or inconsistent self-view

    Impulsiveness – The tendency to act or speak based on current feelings rather than logical reasoning.

    Infantilization – Treating a child as if they are much younger than their actual age.

    Invalidation – The creation or promotion of an environment which encourages an individual to believe that their thoughts, beliefs, values or physical presence are inferior, flawed, problematic or worthless.

    Lack of Object Constancy – An inability to remember that people or objects are consistent, trustworthy and reliable, especially when they are out of your immediate field of vision.

    Learned Helplessness- Learned helplessness is when a person begins to believe that they have no control over a situation, even when they do.

    Magical Thinking – Looking for supernatural connections between external events and one’s own thoughts, words and actions.

    Moments of Clarity – Spontaneous periods when a person with a Personality Disorder becomes more objective and tries to make amends.

    Mood Swings – Unpredictable, rapid, dramatic emotional cycles which cannot be readily explained by changes in external circumstances.

    Neglect – A passive form of abuse in which the physical or emotional needs of a dependent are disregarded or ignored by the person responsible for them.

    Normalizing – Normalizing is a tactic used to desensitize an individual to abusive, coercive or inappropriate behaviors. In essence, normalizing is the manipulation of another human being to get them to agree to, or accept something that is in conflict with the law, social norms or their own basic code of behavior.

    No-Win Scenarios – When you are manipulated into choosing between two bad options

    Panic Attacks – Short intense episodes of fear or anxiety, often accompanied by physical symptoms, such as hyperventilating, shaking, sweating and chills.

    Parentification – A form of role reversal, in which a child is inappropriately given the role of meeting the emotional or physical needs of the parent or of the family’s other children.

    Passive-Aggressive Behavior – Expressing negative feelings in an unassertive, passive way.

    Pathological Lying – Persistent deception by an individual to serve their own interests and needs with little or no regard to the needs and concerns of others. A pathological liar is a person who habitually lies to serve their own needs.

    Projection – The act of attributing one’s own feelings or traits to another person and imagining or believing that the other person has those same feelings or traits.

    Proxy Recruitment – A way of controlling or abusing another person by manipulating other people into unwittingly backing “doing the dirty work”

    Push-Pull – A chronic pattern of sabotaging and re-establishing closeness in a relationship without appropriate cause or reason.

    Raging, Violence and Impulsive Aggression – Explosive verbal, physical or emotional elevations of a dispute. Rages threaten the security or safety of another individual and violate their personal boundaries.

    Sabotage – The spontaneous disruption of calm or status quo in order to serve a personal interest, provoke a conflict or draw attention.

    Scapegoating – Singling out one child, employee or member of a group of peers for unmerited negative treatment or blame.

    Selective Competence – Demonstrating different levels of intelligence, memory, resourcefulness, strength or competence depending on the situation or environment.

    Selective Memory and Selective Amnesia – The use of memory, or a lack of memory, which is selective to the point of reinforcing a bias, belief or desired outcome.

    Self-Harm – Any form of deliberate, premeditated injury, such as cutting, poisoning or overdosing, inflicted on oneself.

    Self-Loathing – An extreme hatred of one’s own self, actions or one’s ethnic or demographic background.

    Self-Victimization – Casting oneself in the role of a victim.

    Shaming – The difference between blaming and shaming is that in blaming someone tells you that you did something bad, in shaming someone tells you that you are something bad.

    Situational Ethics – A philosophy which promotes the idea that, when dealing with a crisis, the end justifies the means and that a rigid interpretation of rules and laws can be set aside if a greater good or lesser evil is served by doing so.

    Splitting – The practice of regarding people and situations as either completely “good” or completely “bad”.

    Thought Policing – Any process of trying to question, control, or unduly influence another person’s thoughts or feelings.

    Threats – Inappropriate, intentional warnings of destructive actions or consequences.

    Triangulation – Gaining an advantage over perceived rivals by manipulating them into conflicts with each other.

    Triggering -Small, insignificant or minor actions, statements or events that produce a dramatic or inappropriate response.

    Tunnel Vision – The habit or tendency to only see or focus on a single priority while neglecting or ignoring other important priorities.

    Seriously — doesn’t this sound exactly like the Republican party?

  107. 107.

    A guy

    October 12, 2015 at 7:18 pm

    Seaboogie- I heard your mom calling. Wanna know what I heard?

  108. 108.

    mclaren

    October 12, 2015 at 7:19 pm

    @seaboogie:

    didn’t you recently invoke Hitler/Holocaust on a recent post?

    Can you please provide a specific quote with a direct link to my alleged post?

    A tiny minority of people on this forum have accused me of vague enormities, but always fail to provide hard evidence. When we observe a pattern of people claiming “mclaren said [fill in the nebulous smear]” and then a request for evidence always results in dead silence, an objective observer knows what’s really going on.

  109. 109.

    seaboogie

    October 12, 2015 at 7:43 pm

    @mclaren: @mclaren: Lemme see if I can do it, link-wise:

    https://balloon-juice.com/2015/10/07/and-todays-worst-person-in-the-world/#comment-5508259

    We were both disagreeing with Omnes, but you pretty much took it to the nth degree, thereby shutting down a dialogue with what felt like hard-core vitriol. I was agin him too on this point, but neither was I with you in how you expressed yourself.

  110. 110.

    seaboogie

    October 12, 2015 at 7:52 pm

    @A guy: No surprise there – I’ll give you her number – you’ll be a peach of a pair.

  111. 111.

    mclaren

    October 12, 2015 at 7:58 pm

    @seaboogie:

    I criticized Omnes Omnibus’ reasoning by using an analogy. You might not like the analogy, but it was on point, and highlighted the reasoning error Omnes made. I stand behind the analogy I made.

    Omnes was claiming that because there was no legal mistake made by a judge who jailed an abused wife for failing to show up at a trial of her abusive husband since the wife was terrified of him, that therefore the judge’s atrocious ruling was fine ‘n dandy.

    Here is exactly what Omnes said:

    What was her legal mistake? She had a witness in a criminal case who failed to show up. The witness had a court order to show up. The witness did not contest the court order; she simply ignored it.

    This reasoning is sociopathic because the question we need to ask in this instance isn’t “What was the judge’s legal mistake?” but “What was the judge’s ethical mistake?” The judge’s ethical mistake was flagrantly obvious and grotesque. The judge in effect wound up punishing the victim for being victimized.

    I would remind you of the legal maxims “He who seeks equity must do equity” and “Equity delights in justice, and not by halves.” In making that atrocious ruling, the judge flouted both of these long-standing legal maxims. A judge who seeks to enforce equity must do equity; by punishing the victim for the crime of being victimized (so shell-shocked by her abuse that she was afraid to face her abuser in court), the judge failed to do equity. The judge should have been punished for her ruling, not the abused woman for suffering from PTSD. And, second, the judge ignored the basic legal maxim that we must seek justice rather than merely the rule of law (i.e., we must follow the spirit rather than the letter of the law) and that we cannot do it by halves. Once again, the judge ignored these fundamental legal maxims in order to apparently gratify her own sadism.

    The specific analogy I made was: “Reliably sociopathic. Next, you’ll defend the Nazi atrocities because they were all legal in the Third Reich at the time they were committed.” This is a precisely correct analogy because it obsesses over the letter of the law to the complete exclusion of the spirit of the law. Under the third reich, many atrocious things were legal, and it was of no use to defendants at Nuremberg to whine “But we were only following the law” because justice resides in the spirit rather than the letter of the law. That is exactly the same discredited legal argument Omnes was making here: the judge was just following the law, so what’s the problem?

    That legal defense was demolished at the Nuremberg trials. Therefore it is perfectly appropriate to point out that fact here.

  112. 112.

    A guy

    October 12, 2015 at 8:13 pm

    Seaboogie- nice please gimme number

  113. 113.

    Original Lee

    October 12, 2015 at 8:29 pm

    1. I would require members of the House to show up for 90% of the floor votes. If they claim illness, they would have to produce a doctor’s note saying exactly what was wrong and how soon they’ll be back. Violators would be the first ones rounded up by the sergeant-at-arms for quorum.

    2. Members would only be allowed to place holds on 3 bills per session, period. After 1 month, their names would be added to a list scrolling at the bottom of the screen on C-SPAN, with the bill number and the reason for the hold, and their office phone number.

    3. I would commute from Belgium and therefore require the House to maintain the Belgian time zone.

  114. 114.

    seaboogie

    October 12, 2015 at 8:33 pm

    @mclaren: Hokay…well, you finally got your specifics from me. Your initial anology – that you expanded upon greatly here – was probably not grasped by most, including me.

    In this – your most recent explanation – you expanded upon an ethical point, that – in a discussion with Omnes – probably should have been fully expressed. You should not assume that everyone knows the argument in your able brain. When you express yourself, it is often to readers like me that it ends with the bang of a gavel, rather than a period at the end of a sentence – like a decree – and it doesn’t seem to be serving you well, per your prior message.

    You have intelligence and passion, but your comments are often imperious and impatient, and seem designed to just shut everything down, which then excludes you from the dialogue – except for negative references.

    Do you have it in you to chill a bit, listen and toss a few well-aimed softballs without hitting the batter in the head to make your point?

  115. 115.

    seaboogie

    October 12, 2015 at 8:35 pm

    @A guy: You are twelve years old, aren’t you?

  116. 116.

    Omnes Omnibus

    October 12, 2015 at 8:38 pm

    @seaboogie:

    Go back to masturbating to CIA torture videos, you’re done here.

    That’s the kind of “enormity” mclaren states that no one can substantiate. Just saying.

  117. 117.

    seaboogie

    October 12, 2015 at 8:47 pm

    @Omnes Omnibus: Got that. Thought I’d do a little outreach, anyway.

  118. 118.

    redshirt

    October 12, 2015 at 9:07 pm

    @Omnes Omnibus: It’s obvious hyperbole.

  119. 119.

    Omnes Omnibus

    October 12, 2015 at 9:08 pm

    @redshirt: And?

  120. 120.

    PaulW

    October 12, 2015 at 9:08 pm

    Give three reasons why you should not be selected as the next Republican Speaker of the House.

    1) I’m not crazy enough, sad but true.
    2) I want government to work.
    3) I’m too busy promoting the Democratic debate drinking game I wrote.
    4) I have a hard time following instructions.
    5) I only have the first two volumes of Sunstone and not the whole collection of graphic novels. Shameful.

  121. 121.

    jl

    October 12, 2015 at 9:18 pm

    Sorry, I decided I DO want to be Speaker of the House and get down and crazy with the GOP House Caucus.
    So, I submit three reasons why I should be GOP Speaker using exemplary GOP logic

    1) is greater than the ohters
    2) See number 1
    3) ???

  122. 122.

    Ruckus

    October 12, 2015 at 9:22 pm

    @shell:
    I’d go for the Sports Illustrated Swim Suit issue.
    Or Catch 22.
    I am an atheist.
    I don’t drink but I could start again if I was forced.
    Or elected speaker.

  123. 123.

    redshirt

    October 12, 2015 at 9:46 pm

    @Omnes Omnibus: It’s obvious hyperbole.

  124. 124.

    Cervantes

    October 12, 2015 at 9:48 pm

    @Baud:

    You’re not suggesting that’s a syllogism, are you?

  125. 125.

    Shantanu Saha

    October 12, 2015 at 10:47 pm

    1. I am a public school teacher and so, for education.
    2. I am a member of a public employees’ union.
    3. My first act as Speaker would be to summon all Republican members of Congress, campaign bundlers, lobbyists, and corporate chieftains to a grand strategy session, and announce my grand strategy: to have the doors locked from the outside, and have the exhaust of 500 Volkswagen “clean diesels” piped into the chamber to see how this would affect the Masters of the Universe.

  126. 126.

    redshirt

    October 12, 2015 at 11:00 pm

    @Shantanu Saha: 3. You would die too?

  127. 127.

    Omnes Omnibus

    October 12, 2015 at 11:03 pm

    @redshirt: yes, and it was brought up in response to mclaren’s self-righteous and self-pitying statement of this:

    A tiny minority of people on this forum have accused me of vague enormities, but always fail to provide hard evidence. When we observe a pattern of people claiming “mclaren said [fill in the nebulous smear]” and then a request for evidence always results in dead silence, an objective observer knows what’s really going on.

  128. 128.

    divF

    October 13, 2015 at 1:40 am

    @Thor Heyerdahl:

    Nationalize Tim Horton’s

    I went to a Tim Horton’s for the first time last year when I was visiting Toronto. My host insisted that we have coffee (dreadful!) and a box of Tim’s Bits. Imagine my relief when I found that the latter were just doughnut holes.

  129. 129.

    mclaren

    October 13, 2015 at 2:35 am

    @Omnes Omnibus:

    Considering Omnes Omnibus’ track record of defending truly indefensible atrocities, I think it’s reasonable to suggest that Omnes has a great deal of sadism and probably gets off on the suffering of others.

    Omnes has repeatedly defended Obama’s drone murders of innocent bystanders, including U.S. citizens like Anwar Al-Awlaki and his son — U.S. citizens never accused of any crime, never indicted, never charged, never arraigned.

    Omnes more recently defended the genuinely despicable behavior of a judge who punished a beaten wife for the offense of suffering from PTSD.

    It seems to me that this pattern of behavior speaks to a deep sadism on Omnes’ part. I intuit a direct link between Omnes’ habit of gloating over the suffering of innocent victims, and the kind of sadistic quasi-sexual gratification some of the worst people in our society have exhibited in response to the suffering of others.

    Is it outrageous for me to point this out? I don’t think so. In fact, we need a lot more people pointing out and decrying the lack of mercy or basic empathy in America today, in 2015.

    Writer Charles Stross seems to me to have put it very well when he said:

    There is a cancer in the collective American soul — a mercy deficit that has in recent years grown as alarmingly as the budget deficit. Nor is it as simple as a left/right thing: no political party has a monopoly on merciless behaviour. Rather, a creeping draconian absolutism has cast its penumbra across the entire arena of public discourse, tainting every debate, poisoning and hardening attitudes across the board.

    Source: “Merciless,” Charles Stross’ blog, 23 August 2009.

    If what I said to Omnes shocks people, good. We need to get shocked and woken up to the obscene lack of basic human decency by a lot of the people in American society who (like the lawyer Omnes claims to be) ought to be upholding those basic values.

  130. 130.

    Bruce K

    October 13, 2015 at 5:25 am

    1) I have never discharged a firearm … that was less powerful than a battle rifle.
    2) I believe there are some things that society is obligated to do, e.g. help its less fortunate members, that can’t be effectively handled by an unfettered free market.
    3) I’m out of the country.
    4) I’m not so great at following orders.
    5) I’d be tempted to use my gavel to try to knock sense into recalcitrant legislators.

  131. 131.

    Silver Wolf

    October 14, 2015 at 3:20 pm

    Interviewer: Can you do a better job than the last guy to hold the position?

    Me: That’s a pretty low bar. I think I can confidently say I could improve on his performance.

    Interviewer: Get the #%!^& out of here you commie!!!!! Next!

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