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You are here: Home / Elections / Election 2016 / Democratic Debate Open Thread

Democratic Debate Open Thread

by Betty Cracker|  October 13, 20158:50 pm| 285 Comments

This post is in: Election 2016, Open Threads, Politics

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  1. 1.

    srv

    October 13, 2015 at 8:51 pm

    Webb is the new guy from Hope.

  2. 2.

    Baud

    October 13, 2015 at 8:51 pm

    Webb is convincing.

  3. 3.

    Right to Rise

    October 13, 2015 at 8:52 pm

    Chaffee and Webb hit Hillary early, and hard.

    Chaffee: “I’ve had no scandals”.

    Webb: “I’m not part of the ‘turn-style’ government”.

  4. 4.

    Baud

    October 13, 2015 at 8:52 pm

    O’Malley should stop talking and start singing.

  5. 5.

    chopper

    October 13, 2015 at 8:55 pm

    @Right to Rise:

    Chaffee: “I’ve had no scandals”.

    people have to give half a shit who you are for anything to rise to ‘scandal’.

  6. 6.

    raven

    October 13, 2015 at 8:55 pm

    You know, I’m starting to think this is THE MOST IMPORTANT ELECTION IN HISTORY!!!

  7. 7.

    randy khan

    October 13, 2015 at 8:55 pm

    O’Malley hitting Hillary isn’t going to help him – the people who agree with him already aren’t voting for her.

    But hitting hard is the only strategy that makes any sense for him and for Webb.

  8. 8.

    Big R

    October 13, 2015 at 8:55 pm

    @Baud: Senator?

  9. 9.

    srv

    October 13, 2015 at 8:56 pm

    All these complaining democrats – you’d think a Republican had been in the White House the last seven years.

  10. 10.

    Big R

    October 13, 2015 at 8:56 pm

    @Right to Rise: No. Brinks. Trucks. Backing. Up.

  11. 11.

    BillinGlendaleCA

    October 13, 2015 at 8:57 pm

    Why is the old man YELLING AT ME?

  12. 12.

    Baud

    October 13, 2015 at 8:57 pm

    @BillinGlendaleCA:

    I know! I’m not a cloud!

  13. 13.

    raven

    October 13, 2015 at 8:57 pm

    Thanks to everyone. . .

  14. 14.

    schrodinger's cat

    October 13, 2015 at 8:58 pm

    What, no Baud?

  15. 15.

    Baud

    October 13, 2015 at 8:58 pm

    @raven:

    She didn’t mean you.

  16. 16.

    Bobby Thomson

    October 13, 2015 at 8:58 pm

    Did Webb just Perry his own daughters?

  17. 17.

    Big R

    October 13, 2015 at 8:58 pm

    @BillinGlendaleCA: GET OFF THE WHITE HOUSE LAWN. SERIOUSLY, THE SECRET SERVICE WILL ARREST YOU.

  18. 18.

    Big R

    October 13, 2015 at 8:59 pm

    @Bobby Thomson: I noticed that too.

  19. 19.

    MomSense

    October 13, 2015 at 8:59 pm

    The Daily Show tweets are pretty funny. I gave up trying to link to them.

  20. 20.

    gogol's wife

    October 13, 2015 at 8:59 pm

    I guess Jeb must be worried about Hillary, judging by the behavior of RtR.

  21. 21.

    srv

    October 13, 2015 at 9:00 pm

    Round 1 over, and God not mentioned once.

  22. 22.

    Mike J

    October 13, 2015 at 9:00 pm

    Watching a Gilmore Girls rerun on Uplift TV. It sounds much dirtier since they bleep every “damn” and “hell”.

  23. 23.

    MomSense

    October 13, 2015 at 9:00 pm

    @Bobby Thomson:

    Oops.

  24. 24.

    dmsilev

    October 13, 2015 at 9:00 pm

    Well done, CNN. It took you 30 minutes to ask the first actual question

  25. 25.

    David Koch

    October 13, 2015 at 9:00 pm

    Baud is wiping the floor with them

  26. 26.

    BillinGlendaleCA

    October 13, 2015 at 9:00 pm

    I’m multitasking, playing with some infrared pics I took this afternoon, pretty cool.

  27. 27.

    raven

    October 13, 2015 at 9:00 pm

    Got the Mets Dodgers on PIP.

  28. 28.

    Keith G

    October 13, 2015 at 9:01 pm

    Sanders and Clinton show that they are the pros

  29. 29.

    Big R

    October 13, 2015 at 9:01 pm

    Was that Rih Santorum in the audience scowling during Hillary’s speech?

  30. 30.

    Bill Arnold

    October 13, 2015 at 9:01 pm

    @Right to Rise:

    Yet her delivery is still like nails on a chalkboard.

    You’re not the target audience. Just asked my wife about how Hillary’s delivery was and she said “good”.
    She’s been dubious about Hillary, looking to be sold.
    (Edit: your post vanished, no matter.)

  31. 31.

    Baud

    October 13, 2015 at 9:01 pm

    @David Koch:

    The only way to win is not to play.

  32. 32.

    David Koch

    October 13, 2015 at 9:01 pm

    For @MomSense: * The Daily Show tweets

  33. 33.

    srv

    October 13, 2015 at 9:02 pm

    She has a range of values, her dial goes to 11.

  34. 34.

    Omnes Omnibus

    October 13, 2015 at 9:02 pm

    Cooper: Admit that you are a pandering bitch, damn it, HRC.

  35. 35.

    randy khan

    October 13, 2015 at 9:02 pm

    @Right to Rise: Yeah, all people who only get mentioned in Republican debates as scary or irrelevant.

  36. 36.

    Right to Rise

    October 13, 2015 at 9:02 pm

    “Worked at the children’s defense fund” back to the same fucking stump speech used since 1992.

  37. 37.

    amk

    October 13, 2015 at 9:02 pm

    fun to watch r2r lose his shite.

  38. 38.

    Keith G

    October 13, 2015 at 9:04 pm

    @Right to Rise: Idiot…Cooper did HRC a favor getting these questions out of the way.

    Did I mention that you are an idiot?

  39. 39.

    dmsilev

    October 13, 2015 at 9:04 pm

    Did CNN open its Republican debate by asking all of the candidates “Why are you a raving nutcase?”? Because they kind of should, given the opening round here.

  40. 40.

    amk

    October 13, 2015 at 9:04 pm

    @Right to Rise:

    6% vs 50%, boy.

  41. 41.

    David Koch

    October 13, 2015 at 9:04 pm

    @Baud: Joshua is that you?

  42. 42.

    benw

    October 13, 2015 at 9:04 pm

    @David Koch: No, Baud’s supposed to wipe the floors after the debate. Janitorial crew.

  43. 43.

    jl

    October 13, 2015 at 9:04 pm

    Good question to HRC descends into buzzword gotcha question on follow-up.
    Is progroderate mogressive or not….

    Now Copper dishonestly or ignorantly (no, dishonest BS) mischaracterize what Sanders is.

    Maybe will get better when we get to issues.

  44. 44.

    p.a.

    October 13, 2015 at 9:05 pm

    Me no have cable. All me want know is WHO LOOKS MOST PRESIDENTIAL? No earth tones!

  45. 45.

    BillinGlendaleCA

    October 13, 2015 at 9:05 pm

    Bernie sounds really angry.

  46. 46.

    beltane

    October 13, 2015 at 9:06 pm

    @Bill Arnold: My mother is one of those still-mad-at-Hillary-after-2008 voters. She just called to say she is very impressed with Hillary tonight.

  47. 47.

    Baud

    October 13, 2015 at 9:06 pm

    Have to hand it to Hillary here.

  48. 48.

    Betty Cracker

    October 13, 2015 at 9:06 pm

    Dayum, Hillz shoots, she scores!

  49. 49.

    catclub

    October 13, 2015 at 9:06 pm

    I think news in the middle east is interesting. US backing Kurds more against Turkey?

    http://www.juancole.com/2015/10/kurdish-northeast-provoke.html

  50. 50.

    BillinGlendaleCA

    October 13, 2015 at 9:07 pm

    @Betty Cracker: Hillz is coming across really well. Bernie is still YELLING.

  51. 51.

    benw

    October 13, 2015 at 9:07 pm

    @p.a.: Cookie monster, is that you? Will you vote for anyone who gives you cookies?

  52. 52.

    Felonius Monk

    October 13, 2015 at 9:07 pm

    @Right to Rise: At least Trump is live tweeting this debate. What’s Jeb? doing tonight besides pushing his thumb up his ass? Not that it really matters anymore.

  53. 53.

    beltane

    October 13, 2015 at 9:07 pm

    @amk: Lucky for him it’s unlikely that Jeb will ever get the opportunity to debate Hillary. That honor will go to one of the other Bozos.

  54. 54.

    raven

    October 13, 2015 at 9:07 pm

    @benw: Lil Bit will.

  55. 55.

    jl

    October 13, 2015 at 9:08 pm

    Well, if Sanders and HRC just effing take over the debate, it might be pretty good.

  56. 56.

    Baud

    October 13, 2015 at 9:08 pm

    Chafee is a block of granite.

    Baud is a block of cheese.

  57. 57.

    Elizabelle

    October 13, 2015 at 9:08 pm

    Anderson Cooper is a good moderator. I’m glad we got the good one, and the ‘pubs got Jake Fucking Tapper. Qs are hard, but candidates expect them.

    Chafee: The party left me. An early adopter.

  58. 58.

    BillinGlendaleCA

    October 13, 2015 at 9:08 pm

    Linc is a block of granite. LMAO.

  59. 59.

    sparrow

    October 13, 2015 at 9:08 pm

    Man, I love state-sponsored airlines, this flight is half empty. Have a good debate guys. I hope for a bump in the polls for all the candidates vs generic repub.

  60. 60.

    David Koch

    October 13, 2015 at 9:08 pm

    I’m watching the Dodger game so can people do some play by play of the debate and Baud’s performance

  61. 61.

    BillinGlendaleCA

    October 13, 2015 at 9:08 pm

    @Baud: I like cheese.

  62. 62.

    magurakurin

    October 13, 2015 at 9:09 pm

    @jl: yeah, the other three need to pack it in.

  63. 63.

    jl

    October 13, 2015 at 9:09 pm

    BS questions from Anderson.

  64. 64.

    dmsilev

    October 13, 2015 at 9:09 pm

    Just think: Don Lemon will be asking questions later on. This is possibly the _high point_ of the debate.

  65. 65.

    germy shoemangler

    October 13, 2015 at 9:09 pm

    I think there should be a law that debates like this should be on BROADCAST TELEVISION.

  66. 66.

    benw

    October 13, 2015 at 9:10 pm

    @raven: Did you vote Democrat? Good girl! Who’s a good puppy who voted Democrat? Who’s a good girl!

  67. 67.

    FlyingToaster

    October 13, 2015 at 9:10 pm

    @Right to Rise: For Democrats, working at jobs which help people is a positive factor. We like our politicians to be something other than complete shits or corporate tools.

  68. 68.

    Elizabelle

    October 13, 2015 at 9:10 pm

    @Baud: Parmesan?

  69. 69.

    srv

    October 13, 2015 at 9:10 pm

    @catclub: You miss Stephen Walt going BiP today at the NYT?

  70. 70.

    Baud

    October 13, 2015 at 9:11 pm

    We need to merge Bernie’s voice with O’Malley’s, and we’d have one fine sounding progressive.

  71. 71.

    raven on the hill

    October 13, 2015 at 9:11 pm

    Wow, o’malley defending the Baltimore police

  72. 72.

    Emerald

    October 13, 2015 at 9:11 pm

    O’Malley looking a bit shaky here.

  73. 73.

    Elie

    October 13, 2015 at 9:11 pm

    Bernie is blowing it. As I said he lost situational awareness. He is following a Democrat. First black President in US history and he has nothing good to say. This should have been first in his mind since he has to shore up black and minority support. He did not. He is a fuss budget scolding and waving his hands — “yes — Get off my lawn”

    Nope

  74. 74.

    raven

    October 13, 2015 at 9:11 pm

    @benw: Here she is post-op today.

  75. 75.

    Baud

    October 13, 2015 at 9:11 pm

    Party of Andrew Jackson!

  76. 76.

    chris

    October 13, 2015 at 9:12 pm

    Guess Kevin Drum went home after the national anthem, last post 8:48. No livestream either but that could be either a Canadian or a Linux problem.

    MoJO back. Network overload.

  77. 77.

    srv

    October 13, 2015 at 9:12 pm

    Webb runs for President of Appalachia.

  78. 78.

    Emerald

    October 13, 2015 at 9:12 pm

    Well yeah, Webb. “Traditionally” the Democratic party was massively racist.

  79. 79.

    magurakurin

    October 13, 2015 at 9:12 pm

    @Elie: yeah Sanders just isn’t all that.

  80. 80.

    Loviatar

    October 13, 2015 at 9:12 pm

    Chafee put into words my problems with a lot of Democrats today.

    “I didn’t change on the issues, I just changed parties”

    He is much a Democrat as Ted Cruz.

  81. 81.

    Elizabelle

    October 13, 2015 at 9:12 pm

    @raven: Why am I hearing a crocodile with a clock ticking?

  82. 82.

    Keith G

    October 13, 2015 at 9:13 pm

    @Elie:

    Bernie is blowing it. As I said he lost situational awareness. He is following a Democrat. First black President in US history and he has nothing good to say.

    Grinding an axe, you?

  83. 83.

    jl

    October 13, 2015 at 9:13 pm

    OK, Anderson got in his horse race question. now issues.

  84. 84.

    magurakurin

    October 13, 2015 at 9:13 pm

    Sanders is doing the Bob Dole, referring to myself in the third person….hmmm

  85. 85.

    Elizabelle

    October 13, 2015 at 9:13 pm

    @srv: That’s about it. But he’s not wrong about Appalachia needing some targeted aid.

  86. 86.

    Omnes Omnibus

    October 13, 2015 at 9:13 pm

    @efgoldman: I am a cheesehead. It is a different thing.

  87. 87.

    benw

    October 13, 2015 at 9:13 pm

    @raven: Sweet. Glad to hear it went well.

  88. 88.

    Emerald

    October 13, 2015 at 9:13 pm

    @Elie: Pretty much the impression I had. Sanders coming across as angry, negative.

    Hillz looking strong and positive.

    So they were wondering how she was going to differentiate herself from Bernie without attacking him. She’s doing it.

  89. 89.

    mike with a mic

    October 13, 2015 at 9:13 pm

    Say what you will, but all of these jerkasses sound better than the clowns from the other side. It’s a good debate, with sane and smart people.

  90. 90.

    magurakurin

    October 13, 2015 at 9:14 pm

    oh, it was a complicated bill…..got it.

  91. 91.

    raven

    October 13, 2015 at 9:15 pm

    @benw: Thanks, she’s right next to us getting a ton of scratches before she goes back in her box for the night.

  92. 92.

    Betty Cracker

    October 13, 2015 at 9:15 pm

    Wow, HRC taking it to Bernie!

  93. 93.

    Elie

    October 13, 2015 at 9:15 pm

    @Keith G:

    As I said, Keith. This is a job interview and I am one of the interviewers. I did not have an axe against Bernie… I truly had not followed him super closely but did have some questions about him. He is not showing well, frankly. MY opinion matters, you see. I don’t like what I see and hear man.

    Seriously, do you like how he is showing?

  94. 94.

    gogol's wife

    October 13, 2015 at 9:15 pm

    @p.a.:

    Has anybody mentioned the “lockbox” yet?

  95. 95.

    raven on the hill

    October 13, 2015 at 9:16 pm

    Shorter Webb: I am not a racist. Sanders: i am not an ammosexual. Clinton nails it on firearms.

  96. 96.

    p.a.

    October 13, 2015 at 9:16 pm

    @BillinGlendaleCA: Famous Boston Bruin fan insult to visiting head coach (I believe Leafs’ Punch Imlach, but I can’t find a reference): Hey Imlach, we got a town here named after you…Marblehead.

  97. 97.

    mike with a mic

    October 13, 2015 at 9:17 pm

    @Emerald:

    Easy to be strong and positive when you are royal blood in this country. And have the backing of all the nobility. Clinton is a death sentence for the party. Any complaints about elitism, wall street, neoliberal economics, elites, the rich, the 1%, all go out the window if she represents the party.

  98. 98.

    Elizabelle

    October 13, 2015 at 9:17 pm

    My table mate re Martin O’M:

    I’d like him to read me a bedtime story.

  99. 99.

    MomSense

    October 13, 2015 at 9:17 pm

    HRC came out strong on gun control. Good.

  100. 100.

    Schlemazel

    October 13, 2015 at 9:17 pm

    The Princess Bride is on cable, it has convinced me to vote for which ever Dem wins the nomination.

    When the GOP offers Vissini, Tyrone Rugen or Humperdink it really makes it no choice but to vote for the Dem. Even Webb would be better, not much but better.

  101. 101.

    Baud

    October 13, 2015 at 9:17 pm

    @Elizabelle:

    Can you imagine him and Carson in the general?

  102. 102.

    raven

    October 13, 2015 at 9:17 pm

    @mike with a mic: horse shit

  103. 103.

    magurakurin

    October 13, 2015 at 9:17 pm

    O’Malley coming in for support of Clinton…VP is a pretty good gig

  104. 104.

    divF

    October 13, 2015 at 9:17 pm

    @raven:
    Impressive cast, and the patient is alert.

  105. 105.

    Elizabelle

    October 13, 2015 at 9:17 pm

    @raven on the hill: Yeah. Hilz is bringing it tonight. I applauded and people from tables over looked at me.

  106. 106.

    gogol's wife

    October 13, 2015 at 9:18 pm

    @raven:

    Sweetie!

  107. 107.

    amk

    October 13, 2015 at 9:18 pm

    @Keith G:

    way to rally the troops for your guy, dood.

  108. 108.

    Elie

    October 13, 2015 at 9:18 pm

    @mike with a mic:

    Well then your side needs a better candidate

  109. 109.

    M31

    October 13, 2015 at 9:18 pm

    OK, this tweet made me snort:

    “Pumpkin Spiceotope ‏@BuckyIsotope 12m12 minutes ago

    BREAKING NEWS: JOE BIDEN JUST PULLED UP IN FRONT OF CNN IN A CAMARO WITH YOU SHOOK ME ALL NIGHT LONG BLASTING”

  110. 110.

    magurakurin

    October 13, 2015 at 9:18 pm

    They are ganging up on Sanders on guns…he’s fucked.

  111. 111.

    patroclus

    October 13, 2015 at 9:18 pm

    I like the people on the stage (Webb is a BADASS!) but this annoying Anderson Cooper guy is really getting on my nerves. Is there any way to shut him up?

  112. 112.

    magurakurin

    October 13, 2015 at 9:19 pm

    O’Malley is pretty good

  113. 113.

    BillinGlendaleCA

    October 13, 2015 at 9:19 pm

    @p.a.: Heh, I’m a Bruin, but the west coast variety.

  114. 114.

    Elizabelle

    October 13, 2015 at 9:19 pm

    @Baud: Who is it here who’s always complaining of insomnia?

    Other than that …

  115. 115.

    dmsilev

    October 13, 2015 at 9:19 pm

    Sanders is not doing himself much good here I don’t think.

  116. 116.

    MomSense

    October 13, 2015 at 9:19 pm

    @raven:

    Aww, poor sweetie. I hope she feels better.

  117. 117.

    raven

    October 13, 2015 at 9:19 pm

    @divF: It’s actually just a dressing.

  118. 118.

    srv

    October 13, 2015 at 9:19 pm

    Bernie and Baud cannot wait until the next commercial break.

  119. 119.

    Emerald

    October 13, 2015 at 9:19 pm

    Gad Bernie is really blowing it. This ain’t one of his rallies.

  120. 120.

    Baud

    October 13, 2015 at 9:20 pm

    @magurakurin:

    O’Malley is better when he’s responding to something.

  121. 121.

    patroclus

    October 13, 2015 at 9:20 pm

    @Schlemazel: Hello. My name is Unigo Montoya. You killed my father. Prepare to die.

  122. 122.

    Mike J

    October 13, 2015 at 9:20 pm

    @Emerald: Ahhh, Howard Dean’s disease.

  123. 123.

    raven

    October 13, 2015 at 9:20 pm

    @Emerald: He’s going nowhere good debates or not.

  124. 124.

    PaulW

    October 13, 2015 at 9:21 pm

    Whoever comes out swinging for Mad Max Fury Road to win Best Picture will get my vote.

  125. 125.

    magurakurin

    October 13, 2015 at 9:21 pm

    Hopefully Clinton ends up winning NH and then its over. Better to focus on the general. We get it, Bernie, the rich have too much. Lot’s of other shit to fix as well.

  126. 126.

    p.a.

    October 13, 2015 at 9:21 pm

    @benw: me support who Animal support. Kermit Green Party weenie. Swedish chef S0cailist. Beaker secret Anarchist. Or antichrist. Me confused.

  127. 127.

    Elizabelle

    October 13, 2015 at 9:21 pm

    @Emerald: He is kind of yelling.

    But he’s right on so many of the issues.

    I don’t see how he’s “blowing it” while Liar Fiorina is WINNING, she’s winning, I tell ya….

    But glad to see gun violence front and center. Have they done this with the GOP?

  128. 128.

    Emerald

    October 13, 2015 at 9:22 pm

    @raven: Yeah I think he’s peaked already. If his performance tonight stays this bad, I’m betting he starts to lose traction.

    Assuming anyone is watching this.

  129. 129.

    srv

    October 13, 2015 at 9:23 pm

    Hillary: Courtesy Bombing is only ok if we’re doing it

    Sanders: A lock-box in a lock-box

  130. 130.

    Elizabelle

    October 13, 2015 at 9:23 pm

    @Emerald: We are.

    An opening. For Baud!

  131. 131.

    Betty Cracker

    October 13, 2015 at 9:23 pm

    @Baud: This is true.

  132. 132.

    mike with a mic

    October 13, 2015 at 9:23 pm

    @Elie:

    My candidate is Sanders. I’ve voted D in every presidential election. My only R vote was for Senator Warner, and in VA that was a good vote. (Don’t get Mark and John confused here)

  133. 133.

    SiubhanDuinne (phone)

    October 13, 2015 at 9:23 pm

    The gun debate is substantive and interesting. More conversations like this at debates, please.

  134. 134.

    WaterGirl

    October 13, 2015 at 9:23 pm

    I’m pleased with what I’m hearing from Bernie tonight, and there’s plenty of reason to be mad about what’s going on in our world these days.

  135. 135.

    Elizabelle

    October 13, 2015 at 9:24 pm

    Bernie’s not yelling and he does GREAT on the Syria question. Thank Dog!

  136. 136.

    Peale

    October 13, 2015 at 9:24 pm

    @BillinGlendaleCA: Bernie needs to stop trying to reach the audience in that room and remember he’s microphoned. He needs to remember that he’s talking to the TV audience. It’s a different kind of stage.

  137. 137.

    BillinGlendaleCA

    October 13, 2015 at 9:24 pm

    @Mike J: Ah, maybe the yelling is a Vermont thing.

  138. 138.

    randy khan

    October 13, 2015 at 9:24 pm

    @mike with a mic: Was that the election where the Dems didn’t put anyone up and the LaRouche candidate ending up getting the nomination?

  139. 139.

    David Koch

    October 13, 2015 at 9:24 pm

    @Elizabelle: where are you at?

  140. 140.

    Keith G

    October 13, 2015 at 9:24 pm

    @Elie:

    Seriously, do you like how he is showing?

    So far okay. Bernie will never be the smooth one with the focus group tested response.

    This is less a job interview than a side show…a unicycle riding juggling act. So I am not sure why Bernie gets down-voted for not mentioning current POTUS.

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    Betty Cracker

    October 13, 2015 at 9:24 pm

    Iraq was a colossal clusterfuck, but worse than Vietnam?

  142. 142.

    Baud

    October 13, 2015 at 9:25 pm

    Hillary’s big question.

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    WaterGirl

    October 13, 2015 at 9:25 pm

    The debate goes a lot faster when you fast forward through Webb and Chaffee. I am interested in what all 3 of the other candidates have to say.

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    raven

    October 13, 2015 at 9:25 pm

    @WaterGirl: Being mad and getting elected are not the same.

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    MomSense

    October 13, 2015 at 9:25 pm

    I don’t get the rural states don’t need gun control talking point. You don’t need a semi automatic rifle to hunt. A lot of places don’t allow use of rifles for hunting anyway.

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    benw

    October 13, 2015 at 9:25 pm

    @p.a.: “Me confused.” here, have a cookie. I hear Grover’s a solid blue Democrat.

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    patroclus

    October 13, 2015 at 9:25 pm

    Why is Bernie yelling so much?

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    mike with a mic

    October 13, 2015 at 9:25 pm

    Chafee might be a nice guy, but god damn does he come off as scared of his own shadow.

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    Elizabelle

    October 13, 2015 at 9:26 pm

    @David Koch: Do you mean physically or politically?

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    Elie

    October 13, 2015 at 9:26 pm

    Bernie needs some positive views about something. He has to remember that the Democratic constituency includes a lot of colored people and that he is following the first black President after a very hard tenure. Sure he has the right to distance himself from the administration, but FIRST he has to give him some props — then he can make his move. He cannot whatever IGNORE the President. Shit. That.is.just.stupid. I did not think he was stupid.

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    Keith G

    October 13, 2015 at 9:27 pm

    @amk: Do you know who my guy is, fuck wad?

  152. 152.

    p.a.

    October 13, 2015 at 9:27 pm

    @BillinGlendaleCA: used to be a big college football fan, less so now, but it’s always better when the uclans matter.

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    Elie

    October 13, 2015 at 9:28 pm

    I think Martin O’Malley could be VP material — possibly — need moar info.

    Is Webb doing anything much?

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    David Koch

    October 13, 2015 at 9:28 pm

    @Elizabelle: physically – sounds like you’re at a bar.

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    MomSense

    October 13, 2015 at 9:28 pm

    The candidates all have good and bad points (except Webb who is awful) and it is nice to recognize the world the candidates are debating.

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    WaterGirl

    October 13, 2015 at 9:28 pm

    @raven: I”m running a few minutes behind in the debate. For me, Bernie is now answering the question about Syria, and he is speaking in a very measured tone. He only raised his voice when he talked about troops on the ground and going to war.

  157. 157.

    raven

    October 13, 2015 at 9:28 pm

    @Elie: What color is he? (Bob Gibson to Tim McCarver when he said “there is a colored guy waiting to see you”.

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    Gin & Tonic

    October 13, 2015 at 9:30 pm

    @mike with a mic: Not watching the debate, but as I’ve mentioned here before, I’ve actually met Chafee, and he has negative charisma.

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    Elizabelle

    October 13, 2015 at 9:30 pm

    Searching for monsters to destroy.

    I like O’Malley answer. Thoughtful and praised Obama.

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    Betty Cracker

    October 13, 2015 at 9:30 pm

    O’Malley says Assad’s invasion of Syria was a mistake? WTF?

  161. 161.

    srv

    October 13, 2015 at 9:30 pm

    Webb not getting the attention he needs.

    @Betty Cracker: It’s complicated.

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    divF

    October 13, 2015 at 9:30 pm

    @raven:
    There are “people of color” and then there are “colored people”.
    ( /Berke Breathed)

  163. 163.

    MomSense

    October 13, 2015 at 9:30 pm

    I did like O’Malley’s Iraq answer.

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    Elie

    October 13, 2015 at 9:30 pm

    @Keith G:

    He had opening remarks, Keith. That was an opportunity that wasn’t influenced by the format. Stop making excuses for him.

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    Schlemazel

    October 13, 2015 at 9:30 pm

    @patroclus:
    Hello, you killed my country, prepare to be defeated.

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    raven

    October 13, 2015 at 9:31 pm

    @divF: And Bob Gibson would throw at his own mom.

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    Baud

    October 13, 2015 at 9:32 pm

    @Betty Cracker:

    I caught that too.

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    Keith G

    October 13, 2015 at 9:32 pm

    @Elie:

    …but FIRST he has to give him some props….

    Or they will think what?

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    Elizabelle

    October 13, 2015 at 9:32 pm

    @David Koch: Yesh. I am at a Persian restaurant in DC suburbs — Vienna, VA –with Bernie Sanders watch party. Really nice group. Two little girls are coloring at the next table.

    NOT SMOKY.

    I applaud Hillary too, so I’m getting some glances. People are listening and electronics all over the place.

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    David Koch

    October 13, 2015 at 9:32 pm

    @Emerald: It’s almost as if Hillary was valedictorian of her university and an accomplished attorney. Nah, that couldn’t be.

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    Elie

    October 13, 2015 at 9:32 pm

    @raven:

    Well I am a colored girl. Also a black girl, negro and niggah. Take your pick

  172. 172.

    Baud

    October 13, 2015 at 9:32 pm

    Webb opposes Iran deal.

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    divF

    October 13, 2015 at 9:32 pm

    @raven:
    Only if Mom crowded the plate too much.

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    amk

    October 13, 2015 at 9:32 pm

    @Keith G: atta boy.

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    MomSense

    October 13, 2015 at 9:33 pm

    @Betty Cracker:

    He did? I missed that.

    Webb is awful.

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    srv

    October 13, 2015 at 9:33 pm

    Webb wants to invade Iran and China.

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    BillinGlendaleCA

    October 13, 2015 at 9:33 pm

    @Betty Cracker: I haz confused as well.

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    Baud

    October 13, 2015 at 9:33 pm

    WTF, Webb?

  179. 179.

    Emerald

    October 13, 2015 at 9:33 pm

    Did Webb just say he opposes the Iran deal? Maybe I heard wrong.

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    Anne Laurie

    October 13, 2015 at 9:33 pm

    Bernie’s not doing himself any favors, IMO.

    Martin O’Malley, on the other hand, seems to be signalling that he’d happily play Biden to HRClinton’s Obama, ifyouknowwhatimeanandithinkyoudo….

  181. 181.

    Nicole

    October 13, 2015 at 9:33 pm

    Jim Webb’s collar is so tight his neck is making muffin top. It’s very distracting.

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    Eric S.

    October 13, 2015 at 9:33 pm

    Did Webb just threaten China?

  183. 183.

    raven

    October 13, 2015 at 9:33 pm

    @Elie: It’s dynamic if I’m not mistaken.

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    Peale

    October 13, 2015 at 9:33 pm

    @Betty Cracker: No. I don’t think it’s even close. Although in Vietnam I think the take away was “no more Vietnams”. There’s too many out there who’d be fine with Iraq III (this time it will work!)

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    Elie

    October 13, 2015 at 9:34 pm

    @Keith G:

    forget it Keith.

    I am trying to communicate my concerns about the candidate you favor. You will not argue me out of my views with gotcha comments. I gave you straight out what I thought and why. Take it or leave it.

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    jl

    October 13, 2015 at 9:34 pm

    Ok, now we have a real debate on Syria policy. Not sure how much interest in country, but this is better than GOP clown show unless you like freak show entertainment.

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    raven

    October 13, 2015 at 9:34 pm

    @Nicole: He’s a fucking jar head.

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    JPL

    October 13, 2015 at 9:34 pm

    @srv: He also is confusing Iran and Iraq. It’s kinda like not remembering his children’s names.

  189. 189.

    MomSense

    October 13, 2015 at 9:34 pm

    @Anne Laurie:

    Ha! I agree.

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    Elizabelle

    October 13, 2015 at 9:35 pm

    Smart power at its best.

    I like that.

    Not something the cannibal caucus can come up with.

  191. 191.

    raven

    October 13, 2015 at 9:35 pm

    @Peale: Ask Webb how he feels about those of us who opposed Vietnam after we came home. Fuck him.

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    beltane

    October 13, 2015 at 9:35 pm

    For the record, Webb didn’t misspeak. He really is against the Iran deal.

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    Ksmiami

    October 13, 2015 at 9:35 pm

    @patroclus: Inigo / runs and hides (sorry)

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    Elie

    October 13, 2015 at 9:35 pm

    @Nicole:

    LOL — so true!

  195. 195.

    p.a.

    October 13, 2015 at 9:35 pm

    Anything on SCOTUS, Citizens United and voting rights/making voting EASIER?

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    Schlemazel

    October 13, 2015 at 9:36 pm

    @raven:
    “He beaned his own kid is a father-son game”- Harry Doyal

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    Mandalay

    October 13, 2015 at 9:36 pm

    @Betty Cracker:

    O’Malley says Assad’s invasion of Syria was a mistake? WTF?

    Right. I can’t even imagine what he meant to say instead of “Assad”. Putin? ISIS? Just odd.

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    Betty Cracker

    October 13, 2015 at 9:36 pm

    Hillz is killing this so far. O’Malley seems to be angling for VP.

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    jl

    October 13, 2015 at 9:37 pm

    Cooper playing the ‘that guy said a mean about that about you, so I can ask you about it’ game. I guess CNN is equal handed with the chicken shit approach to debate moderation.

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    Keith G

    October 13, 2015 at 9:37 pm

    @Elie:

    Stop making excuses for him

    I am not making excuses. I am wondering about hurt feelings.

    I am wondering about whose feelings are hurt, how they got hurt, and what degree of responsibility Sanders has for those hurt feelings.

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    dmsilev

    October 13, 2015 at 9:37 pm

    Oh, fuck you Anderson Cooper.

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    Peale

    October 13, 2015 at 9:37 pm

    @Betty Cracker: Lordy. Wrong on so many levels. Yah gotta get the names right on most of the key players in the conflict. If it was a gotcha question about Nauru it’s one thing.

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    jl

    October 13, 2015 at 9:38 pm

    @Mandalay: He must have meant Putin.

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    Baud

    October 13, 2015 at 9:38 pm

    @Betty Cracker:

    Her experience is coming through.

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    Shinobi

    October 13, 2015 at 9:38 pm

    Jim Webb thinks he is on Fox news.

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    raven

    October 13, 2015 at 9:38 pm

    So it’s ok to be a CO but it’s not OK to protest the war after you serve in it? Uh huh.

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    patroclus

    October 13, 2015 at 9:38 pm

    @Ksmiami: Hello, my name is Inigo Webb. You didn’t allow me enough time. Prepare for China and Iran to die.

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    divF

    October 13, 2015 at 9:39 pm

    @Shinobi:
    An understandable mistake — CNN is Fox News lite, after all.

  209. 209.

    Elizabelle

    October 13, 2015 at 9:39 pm

    @Baud: Yeah. Hillary is looking GREAT. Very quiet here at the Sanders party. Respectful viewing for all.

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    dmsilev

    October 13, 2015 at 9:39 pm

    @Betty Cracker: She’s doing pretty darn well.

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    Mandalay

    October 13, 2015 at 9:39 pm

    @beltane:

    For the record, Webb didn’t misspeak. He really is against the Iran deal.

    No, he didn’t misspeak. But he picked the wrong party.

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    Emerald

    October 13, 2015 at 9:39 pm

    @Baud: Yep. I expected her to be good at this. She’s always been a good debater.

    But she’s coming across as strong, positive, and smart in everything she’s said, so far.

    I was undecided before this. I think I might be deciding.

  213. 213.

    jl

    October 13, 2015 at 9:40 pm

    @Shinobi: Webb did pass up softball cheap shot invite Cooper pitched to him on consicencious objection.

  214. 214.

    yet another jeff

    October 13, 2015 at 9:41 pm

    Maybe it’s the green tie, but Chafee is looking very Cardassian tonight.

  215. 215.

    beltane

    October 13, 2015 at 9:41 pm

    @Mandalay: Well, he hasn’t quite come out with a plan to bomb Planned Parenthood so I guess the Republicans won’t have him either.

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    mike with a mic

    October 13, 2015 at 9:41 pm

    @randy khan:

    Sadly I don’t remember. But Warner was good for VA, good for the military, supported Roe V Wade, supported Stem Cell Research, and spoke highly of Obama. VA is highly educated, highly elite, highly military, and highly liberal… at least my part of it (NOVA). We’re socially liberal, hawks, pragmatic, old school fiscally conservative (aka pay for it, don’t just debt run it).

  217. 217.

    PsiFighter37

    October 13, 2015 at 9:42 pm

    Not her biggest fan but Hillary is making a mockery of these JV candidates. Yes, that includes Bernie, who got absolutely pasted on gun control.

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    Elizabelle

    October 13, 2015 at 9:42 pm

    Bernie wins for me, with greatest threat answer.

    Climate Change.

    Damn tooting. It’s even implicated in the Syrian uprising.

  219. 219.

    Elie

    October 13, 2015 at 9:42 pm

    @Keith G:

    ????????

    I don’t know what you are referencing Keith. Bernie has not hurt my feelings. I just don’t like him as a candidate for President for the Democratic Party in 2016. He is unable to articulate a vision for his candidacy that I can support in comparison to Hillary or even Martin O’Malley. That happens. That is why “you have to play the game”. Yes, this is a tough challenge and he has done good in pushing Hillary, but he is NOT going to be the Democratic candidate for President.

  220. 220.

    Schlemazel

    October 13, 2015 at 9:42 pm

    @Mandalay:
    realize this guy is too sane to be a gooper. That is scary.

  221. 221.

    BillinGlendaleCA

    October 13, 2015 at 9:43 pm

    Webb needs to use a better navigation system to get to the GOP debate.

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    Baud

    October 13, 2015 at 9:43 pm

    @Schlemazel:

    My thought also.

  223. 223.

    Keith G

    October 13, 2015 at 9:43 pm

    @Elie: That’s the thing Elie….dear fucking god….I like Bernie, but I do not favor him. Never have. Check back threads if you want…that should have been obvious.

    I have always said that I look forward to voting for Hillary, if she earns it. I have enjoyed the fact that the stronger Bernie is able to be, the more Hillary will have to speak very solidly about important issues. And the more she will have to earn the nomination.

  224. 224.

    oldgold

    October 13, 2015 at 9:43 pm

    Hillary has played on this big of a stage many times. Bernie has not done so. It is showing tonight.

  225. 225.

    randy khan

    October 13, 2015 at 9:44 pm

    @mike with a mic: Yeah, Warner was about as good as a Republican was likely to get (not to mention he really, really looked the part of a Senator). I remember that particular election because I voted for him to avoid voting for a crazy person.

  226. 226.

    Elie

    October 13, 2015 at 9:44 pm

    @Mandalay:

    So true. Gotta know where you belong, right?

    But he is not insane, and he would be considered a left winger to the republicans.

  227. 227.

    dmsilev

    October 13, 2015 at 9:45 pm

    There’s a commercial running from ‘USAnchorBabies.org’. They’re not in favor. “Paid for by Californians for Population Stabilization”.

    WTF?

  228. 228.

    Mandalay

    October 13, 2015 at 9:45 pm

    Bernie correctly says our biggest national security threat is climate change.

    Webb says it’s cyberwarfare. (facepalm)

  229. 229.

    Elie

    October 13, 2015 at 9:45 pm

    @Keith G:

    Okay. got it. So why are you giving me a hard time for my assessment of his performance? He did not do well, man. that is all — did not do well.

  230. 230.

    Jeffro

    October 13, 2015 at 9:45 pm

    @Anne Laurie: she would not pick him in 1 million years … Brings nothing to the ticket not geographically, demographically,or any other graphically

    by the way just saw a super PAC ad from a stop Hillary group – unbelievably scummy

  231. 231.

    beth

    October 13, 2015 at 9:46 pm

    Omg that Benghazi ad. Does Ambassador Steven’s family support that shit?

  232. 232.

    dmsilev

    October 13, 2015 at 9:46 pm

    So, umm, what happened to our pet troll? Did he go off-shift just as the debate started?

  233. 233.

    patroclus

    October 13, 2015 at 9:46 pm

    I agree that Hillary is winning this debate so far. Head and shoulders above these guys.

  234. 234.

    dmsilev

    October 13, 2015 at 9:47 pm

    Thank you, Kevin McCarthy.

  235. 235.

    divF

    October 13, 2015 at 9:48 pm

    @dmsilev: He’s off awaiting instructions from the Big Giant Head.

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    beltane

    October 13, 2015 at 9:48 pm

    @dmsilev: Holy shit! Did this ad feature swastikas by any chance?

    Jim Webb would have made a very good conservative Republican back in the 1970s.

  237. 237.

    Baud

    October 13, 2015 at 9:48 pm

    Good for you, Bernie.

  238. 238.

    Betty Cracker

    October 13, 2015 at 9:48 pm

    Good one, Bernie!

  239. 239.

    patroclus

    October 13, 2015 at 9:49 pm

    Way to go Bernie! Giving Hills some props!

  240. 240.

    Elizabelle

    October 13, 2015 at 9:49 pm

    The American people are tired of hearing about your damned emails.

    Applause after applause here.

  241. 241.

    Elie

    October 13, 2015 at 9:49 pm

    Bernie could have helped himself by just having a little sense of humor.

  242. 242.

    Nicole

    October 13, 2015 at 9:49 pm

    Oh my God, I was just tweeting about how I don’t care about emails and then BERNIE JUST SAID THAT SAME THING. Vote for Bernie; he’s psychic.

  243. 243.

    Betty Cracker

    October 13, 2015 at 9:49 pm

    And Hillz thanks Bernie and they shake on it. Perfect.

  244. 244.

    Elizabelle

    October 13, 2015 at 9:49 pm

    @Elie: The damned emails was fab.

  245. 245.

    Keith G

    October 13, 2015 at 9:50 pm

    @Elie: What I was referencing is the following….which is similar to other comments:

    Bernie needs some positive views about something. He has to remember that the Democratic constituency includes a lot of colored people and that he is following the first black President after a very hard tenure. Sure he has the right to distance himself from the administration, but FIRST he has to give him some props — then he can make his move. He cannot whatever IGNORE the President. Shit. That.is.just.stupid. I did not think he was stupid.

    It sounded like someone somewhere was of an opinion that Sanders has a special need to fluff the president. I was wondering where that was coming from.

  246. 246.

    Betty Cracker

    October 13, 2015 at 9:50 pm

    Hahaha! Good one, Hillz!

  247. 247.

    MomSense

    October 13, 2015 at 9:50 pm

    “No”

    Best line of the night!

  248. 248.

    dmsilev

    October 13, 2015 at 9:50 pm

    @beltane: It was something along the lines of “Illegal immigrants have anchor-baby kids, who become citizens, and thus the parents and their whole extended families mooch off government benefits. There are BIGNUM of these babies every year.”

    Not sure why the audience for a Democratic debate would be a receptive one for that message.

  249. 249.

    raven

    October 13, 2015 at 9:51 pm

    “There are a lot of people”

    Like motherfucking Joe and Mika. Fuck em.

  250. 250.

    Emerald

    October 13, 2015 at 9:51 pm

    “No.”

    Hillz is killing. Killing.

  251. 251.

    Betty Cracker

    October 13, 2015 at 9:51 pm

    Oh Christ. Don Lemon. He fucks up as usual.

  252. 252.

    Omnes Omnibus

    October 13, 2015 at 9:51 pm

    @MomSense: Yep.

  253. 253.

    WaterGirl

    October 13, 2015 at 9:51 pm

    I wonder how much confirmation bias is coming into play with our reactions to this debate. It seems like the people who are already pro-Hillary are seeing her debate performance as great. If you didn’t like Bernie coming into the debate, you think he’s yelling to much.

    Because I really dislike Hillary and can’t stand all the inevitability talk (again), I have pretty much detached myself from this process so far. I haven’t listened to an O’Malley speech or seen Bernie at a town hall, nor have I watched or read about Hillary on the campaign trail.

    I don’t hate what Hillary is saying, but I still don’t trust her and she is for too hawkish on foreign policy for my tastes. For the most part, I am positively impressed with Bernie in this debate. O’Malley’s 2-minute intro made me cringe, and Bernie’s intro felt like a breath of fresh air after that! Hillary’s was too canned an measured, not quite as ring-worthy as O’Malley’s.

    Will be interesting to see how the second set turns out.

  254. 254.

    Elizabelle

    October 13, 2015 at 9:51 pm

    Hillary did great with the NO. Applause here in Sandersland.

  255. 255.

    jl

    October 13, 2015 at 9:51 pm

    Chaffee making no sense on emails.
    regardless of politics, Sanders and HRC are right in telling the media to shove it.
    Glad to see O’Malley joins in.

  256. 256.

    Arm The Homeless

    October 13, 2015 at 9:51 pm

    Bernie just stuck a shiv in the Benghazi committee’s ribs.

  257. 257.

    Emerald

    October 13, 2015 at 9:51 pm

    Don LEMON???

  258. 258.

    Mandalay

    October 13, 2015 at 9:51 pm

    Cooper asks Clinton about her emails.
    She tells him to shove his fucking stupid loaded non-question up his dumb ass.
    Bernie backs her 100%.
    The crowd roars their approval.
    Cooper exposed as a worthless hack.
    Highlight of the evening.

  259. 259.

    Emerald

    October 13, 2015 at 9:52 pm

    (Whew. At least Lemon isn’t asking the questions)

  260. 260.

    divF

    October 13, 2015 at 9:52 pm

    @dmsilev:

    BIGNUM

    C’mon, all you need is unsigned long long.

  261. 261.

    beltane

    October 13, 2015 at 9:53 pm

    @dmsilev: Maybe it’s a stealth GOTV effort from Team Blue reminding us all that right-wingers are frigging nuts.

  262. 262.

    jl

    October 13, 2015 at 9:54 pm

    hope all the candidates tell CNN to shove it on their cheap shot on black or all lives matter.

    All candidates including the ones that should not be up there, could probably organize a better debate on their own.

  263. 263.

    Omnes Omnibus

    October 13, 2015 at 9:54 pm

    “Hey, Hillary, take a shot at Obama on race relations.”

    “No.”

  264. 264.

    WaterGirl

    October 13, 2015 at 9:54 pm

    I am having a Mike Gravel flashback.

  265. 265.

    Elizabelle

    October 13, 2015 at 9:55 pm

    New thread.

  266. 266.

    divF

    October 13, 2015 at 9:55 pm

    @Mandalay:
    It seems likely that there was some advanced communication / planning on this matter between the Sanders and Clinton camps.

    How likely is it that AC was expecting to be sandbagged like this, and went ahead anyway ?

  267. 267.

    Nicole

    October 13, 2015 at 9:56 pm

    Dear Jim Webb: When that kid asked, “Do Black Lives Matter, or do All Lives Matter?” What he was really asking was, “Are you a racist?” You just failed that question.

    Edited to add: On the other hand, this is the guy who says he represents what the Democratic party used to stand for. So maybe he did understand the question perfectly well.

  268. 268.

    Shinobi

    October 13, 2015 at 9:56 pm

    Anderson Cooper clearly wants the things that the media spends most of its time on to be relevant.

  269. 269.

    Shinobi

    October 13, 2015 at 9:56 pm

    And Jim Webb has a black friend you guys.

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    benw

    October 13, 2015 at 9:57 pm

    @WaterGirl: Agree with this.

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    Elie

    October 13, 2015 at 9:57 pm

    @Keith G:

    YES. HE DOES.

    For Pete’s Sake man, you are pretty sophisticated person. He is running for the Presidency following the election of the first black President. That Presidency has not been a failure or anything he needs to deny or run away from. YES. I am a black person and I am perhaps more mindful of giving respect to THIS President but I would expect it for ANY Democratic President who was currently in office! Do you remember the 2014 mid terms when all the democrats ran away from this President and his successes? Do you remember the 2000 election when Gore ran away from Clinton?
    I truly expected more of Bernie. I thought he was an experienced pro. Yes, he has to acknowledge and in no way disrespect the current administration even as he charts a new course. This is an easy thing that a pro pulls off without a glitch. He either did not know he should do it or did not want to do it. Bad either way. No excuses for it man. NONE

  272. 272.

    Patrick ii

    October 13, 2015 at 9:57 pm

    @Elie:
    African American?

  273. 273.

    jl

    October 13, 2015 at 9:58 pm

    @divF: Sanders response on emails was pretty much same as it has been every time he has been asked: says its a BS.issue and won’t respond.

    Edit: and I have heard him say GOP smears and sexism are probably involved in all the HRC BS stories. Politically, I think a bank shot for Sanders, since gives him an opening to bash corporate media without looking self-serving.

  274. 274.

    divF

    October 13, 2015 at 9:59 pm

    @jl:
    Good for him!

    ETA: Then AC must have expected to be sandbagged on this, and did it anyway. Interesting.

  275. 275.

    Keith G

    October 13, 2015 at 9:59 pm

    I think will be interesting to see how John Dickerson decides to play the role of moderator in the next Democratic discussion. I suspect it will be quite different that ol’ Anderson

  276. 276.

    SiubhanDuinne

    October 13, 2015 at 10:01 pm

    Well, damn. I’ve been watching streaming on the iPad and trying to comment from the phone, but comments for some reason not getting through. So now I’m back on the iPad, audio only, so I can play with you guys.

  277. 277.

    Shinobi

    October 13, 2015 at 10:02 pm

    It’s cool guys. Hill is gonna get them to cut it out.

  278. 278.

    Mike in NC

    October 13, 2015 at 10:04 pm

    @dmsilev: R2R drops in about once a night for 5-10 minutes of flinging poo, then runs away. Maybe ferreting doesn’t pay so well after all.

  279. 279.

    jl

    October 13, 2015 at 10:05 pm

    @WaterGirl: I think debates work that way if you strongly favor a candidate. That is life.

    My concern is that these people make the Democratic party look good for the general, and HRC (probable nominee) and Sanders (closest to my views and only other one making an impact) both look pretty good, each in their own way. Both have big strengths and some weaknesses.

    Regardless of how they do against each other, I think both look promising against the GOP so I am happy.

  280. 280.

    JimGod

    October 13, 2015 at 10:05 pm

    @Elie: Nothing to run away from…..except TPP, which is a bad trade deal. You’re free to base your vote on whatever you want but I’m sorry, because he won’t name Obama or back him 1000%? Unrealistic.

  281. 281.

    Mandalay

    October 13, 2015 at 10:06 pm

    Ruh-roh….Clinton is bragging about how she has been an enemy to the avarice of Wall Street.

    Bad move.

  282. 282.

    Emerald

    October 13, 2015 at 10:06 pm

    New thread up

  283. 283.

    jl

    October 13, 2015 at 10:09 pm

    @Mandalay: I read Wall Street has decided that HRC may be unsound on big finance and not sending the money. So, she may be spared any dilemma about going after big finance.

    Chaffee blows it now.

  284. 284.

    SiubhanDuinne

    October 13, 2015 at 10:10 pm

    Honestly, just based on what I’ve seen tonight, I think HRC as POTUS nominee, someone else (Julian Castro for choice, right now) as VP nominee, and Bernie Sanders as loyal supporter, would make a terrific tag team in the general. I can’t go along with the “why is Bernie so angry?” vibe — to me, that’s just Bernie and the way he’s always been in campaign rallies, floor speeches, interviews, etc. It obviously resonates with an awful lot of people, so assuming that Hillary wins the nomination, I really hope she uses Bernie in the general (and that he’s willing to play that role, of course).

  285. 285.

    JimGod

    October 13, 2015 at 10:41 pm

    @SiubhanDuinne: She damn well better because that whole “I went to Wall Street and said cut it out” is not gonna work in an election based on wealth inequality and distribution.

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