Come for the politics, stay for the snark.

Republican also-rans: four mules fighting over a turnip.

He seems like a smart guy, but JFC, what a dick!

Nothing worth doing is easy.

“The defense has a certain level of trust in defendant that the government does not.”

Dear Washington Post, you are the darkness now.

Perhaps you mistook them for somebody who gives a damn.

Every one of the “Roberts Six” lied to get on the court.

Republicans want to make it harder to vote and easier for them to cheat.

Republicans don’t lie to be believed, they lie to be repeated.

Fundamental belief of white supremacy: white people are presumed innocent, minorities are presumed guilty.

Innocent people don’t delay justice.

The Supreme Court cannot be allowed to become the ultimate, unaccountable arbiter of everything.

Lick the third rail, it tastes like chocolate!

There are some who say that there are too many strawmen arguments on this blog.

A snarling mass of vitriolic jackals

But frankly mr. cole, I’ll be happier when you get back to telling us to go fuck ourselves.

I’d try pessimism, but it probably wouldn’t work.

I’ve spoken to my cat about this, but it doesn’t seem to do any good.

So many bastards, so little time.

Their boy Ron is an empty plastic cup that will never know pudding.

Wow, I can’t imagine what it was like to comment in morse code.

“Everybody’s entitled to be an idiot.”

White supremacy is terrorism.

We’ll be taking my thoughts and prayers to the ballot box.

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  2. 2.

    goblue72

    JHC, I’m not even at the bar yet. I love the West Coast, but living out here just sucks for making it to kickoff for national games.

  3. 3.

    redshirt

    Since Corner Stone has me pied, amusingly, can someone ask him the following for me:

    1. How many people does he have pied?
    2. What is his criteria for pieing people?

    Thanks!

  4. 4.

    geg6

    Pitt is shitting the bed but the Pens are looking good.

    It’s all good after a nice bottle of Pinot noir.

  7. 7.

    Spirula

    Hate the Pats. Maybe Campell’s “Rudolph” nose will help Miami beat them.

    What?! Am I the only one that noticed?

  9. 9.

    Tissue Thin Pseudonym

    Gophers are up 3-0 on the Fighting Whioux after one period. The bar I’m at can’t access the channel the game is on, so I forked over $10 to UND to watch.

  22. 22.

    JPL

    @redshirt: We’ll find out how on espn tomorrow.

    3 and out.. hmm

    Tannehill was hypnotized by the pats .. you can tell cuz he let the ball just drift by

  24. 24.

    gene108

    When did car companies stop putting spare tires of some sort in cars?

    I was perusing through car options on-line and a large number of the newer fangled cars no longer come with a spare tire. I’m not talking about a full sized spare, just the donut.

    I remember when the donut tire was a sign of society going to hell in a handbasket because you no longer had full sized spare tires, though VW used to have full sized spares in their cars longer than any auto company I’ve seen.

    Tire patching goo and an electric air pump don’t work on a side wall blow out and if you have a side wall blow out in a less than heavily populated area you would just be SOL.

  28. 28.

    Corner Stone

    That Nike commersh was BS. Gronk has never asked to play touch football in his life.
    Unless he was the ref for the lingerie bowl championship, maybe.

  29. 29.

    JPL

    @Corner Stone: red shift… wants to know
    Since Corner Stone has me pied, amusingly, can someone ask him the following for me:

    1. How many people does he have pied?
    2. What is his criteria for pieing people?

  32. 32.

    Anne Laurie

    @gene108:

    Tire patching goo and an electric air pump don’t work on a side wall blow out and if you have a side wall blow out in a less than heavily populated area you would just be SOL.

    “Well, that’s why you have ONSTAR, don’t you?” (/snark)

  33. 33.

    Betty Cracker

    The Patriots are to the NFL what Walmart is to capitalism. You might not like the outcome. You might think the result is hinky as hell. But you have to have to give them credit for thriving within the system.

  34. 34.

    sparrow

    I’m having one of those super-depressing days where NOTHING at work went right, and I basically ended up 5 steps behind where I was yesterday, which was 5 steps behind the day before that.

    I already know I’m a workaholic, if that fails me I’ve got pretty much nothing.

    Also, from the ringing in my ears and facial twitch going on day 5, I’m well into the disturbing-physical-symptoms phase of totally unmanaged stress levels.

    This is all self-induced and I just feel like downing a bottle of tequila and calling it a night. Or a week. Whatever.

  36. 36.

    redshirt

    @Betty Cracker:

    The Patriots are to the NFL what Walmart is to capitalism. You might not like the outcome. You might think the result is hinky as hell. But you have to have to give them credit for thriving within the system.

    True, but now I’m getting a bit uneasy. The Pats have been stymied last few series.

    The D is playing great though.

  37. 37.

    FlyingToaster

    I’m wondering if the wind is going to pick up again and wreak havoc with the passing.

    HerrDoktor turned off the TV at the safety. Poor ‘fins fan.

  40. 40.

    Eric U.

    I used to have a batch of people pied, but my hard drive died and nobody has done anything so egregious as to get me to install the pie filter again.

  41. 41.

    redshirt

    @Eric U.:

    I used to have a batch of people pied, but my hard drive died and nobody has done anything so egregious as to get me to install the pie filter again.

    I don’t understand why anyone would pie anyone, so I’m curious as to your reasons.

  43. 43.

    redshirt

    @efgoldman:

    It’s the functional equivalent of a ’65 Chevy when we were kids.

    Probably way better. Remember when you could never be sure if your brand new car would suck or not?

  44. 44.

    Keith G

    Democratic pollster Stan Greenberg has a new book, America Ascendant, based on several years of public policy polling. A very cursory overview is in Huffpo

    The Republican Party, as Greenberg describes it, is “a rural, white, married, evangelical, religious party in a country that’s becoming less married, more secular, more urban.” The “furious counter-revolution” the party has waged for a decade to keep the “new American majority” from governing, he said, has “alienated the Republican Party from the country.”

    An interesting and, I imagine, poll supported bit of advice for the Dems in 2016 my not be liked by some:

    Bill Clinton’s former pollster thinks it’s a mistake for Democratic presidential candidates to essentially run for President Barack Obama’s “third term.”

    “That’s not what the country wants. It’s not what the base of the Democratic Party wants,” said longtime Democratic pollster Stanley Greenberg, whose past clients include Clinton and Vice President Al Gore. “The Democratic Party is waiting for a president who will articulate the scale of the problems we face and challenge them to address it.”

    Greenberg thinks it’s time to go bigger.
    …
    Greenberg argues in the book that these revolutionary changes, including a population that is growing younger and more racially and culturally diverse, will lead to a period in which America will be “exceptional again.” But he believes that renewal will require a period of sustained political reform, comparable to the Progressive Era at the turn of the 20th century, and the defeat of the “counter-revolution” being waged by the modern Republican Party.

    In an interview at the link, he fleshes out his ideas a bit more.

    So anyway, that’s happening.

  45. 45.

    redshirt

    @JPL:

    red shift… wants to know
    Since Corner Stone has me pied, amusingly, can someone ask him the following for me:

    1. How many people does he have pied?
    2. What is his criteria for pieing people?

    Hmm, maybe Corner Stone has you pied too. How deep does the pie go?

    I suspect like deep dish deep.

  46. 46.

    Mike J

    @ThresherK: “a working progress”?

    For the square mile, very few people live there, but a lot of the people that work there support Chelsea.

    For Westminster, Betty likes Arsenal.

  47. 47.

    ThresherK

    @efgoldman: We are looking at late-model used cars, and Camry is on the list.

    Which submodel, and (just guessing here) what shade of charcoal metallic, silver or iridium did you get?

  49. 49.

    seaboogie

    Curious, given previous commments: How can you know if someone has you pied?

    Also, is Rising Above a Zombie return of “you know who”?

  50. 50.

    gene108

    @JPL:

    It lowers the weight and improves mileage. It’s bull.

    How much does the weight of a spare tire donut actually weigh? It can’t be enough to boost mileage much at all. I mean chuck in the extra sheet metal weight for having to accommodate the donut and you have maybe a hundred pounds on a three thousand pound vehicle.

    I agree it is bull.

  51. 51.

    ThresherK

    @Mike J: Having lived my whole life in CT I’ve seen any number of maps where the sports rivalries between Boston and NYC draw the lines. Of course the Red Sox/Yankees history is 112 years old, so it gets most of the ink.

    West Ham United myself.

    This London fan map is amazing for the allegiances to the teams that aren’t in the Premier League, or at least aren’t every year. I’m fascinated at the differences between how Britons and Americans organize their sport. I can only think of two Scottish teams and one English team (ex-Wimbledon, now MK Dons) who have moved.

  55. 55.

    Keith G

    @seaboogie: The “pier” will usually trumpet your new status as a passive-aggressive coup de gras. It seems to be important to type about it as a taunting “Nah Nah, I got you last”

    Really fun stuff to see play out.

  58. 58.

    gene108

    @Betty Cracker:

    But you have to have to give them credit for thriving within the system.

    Pats got lucky.

    If Bledsoe had not had a season ending injury in 2001 (? can’t remember exact year) Brady would probably still be on someone’s bench, and the Pats would be like any other run of the mill team.

    Belechek would’ve been fired long ago and spending his time being bitter that he never could make it as a head coach.

    Pats fans need to thank, whoever it was that knocked Bledsoe out that season.

  59. 59.

    seaboogie

    @efgoldman: Don’t always follow so closely…but pretty sure it was more about him invoking…ehrm….adult relations with those who have just taken their first steps – the comparison to which I forget – because the line of decency had been crossed so fully and repeatedly.

  60. 60.

    redshirt

    @Keith G:

    The “pier” will usually trumpet your new status as a passive-aggressive coup de gras. It seems to be important to type about it as a taunting “Nah Nah, I got you last”

    Really fun stuff to see play out.

    Anyone who pies someone just because they don’t like their opinions is a coward. Hard core trolls? I can somewhat understand (but still don’t agree). But just someone you disagree with? Come on.

  62. 62.

    Betty Cracker

    @redshirt: Were you seriously worried about a .500 team with an interim coach? The Pats have a pretty easy schedule. You can probably relax until the prospect of choking in another Super Bowl looms.

  65. 65.

    gene108

    @sparrow:

    This is all self-induced and I just feel like downing a bottle of tequila and calling it a night. Or a week. Whatever.

    Take a break. Unwind. There’s more to life than just work. Get your head clear and come back to the office.

  67. 67.

    Svensker

    Dang the Pats anyway. Not a Dolphins fan at all, but was hoping they’d sack the crap out of Brady, or maybe even roll out the new 2nd Amendment Solution play (take out the Derringer and shoot the QB in the shins). Or maybe in the little red pompom on the top of Brady’s stupid hat. Dang. Taking my Pats-induced sour stomach and going to bed. Grump.

  68. 68.

    FlyingToaster

    @Omnes Omnibus: Naw, it’s the UNLIMITED CORPORATE CASH fool from 2012.

    He almost never replies to me — no more than I deserve for trying to calmly refute his bs.

  69. 69.

    Eric U.

    @redshirt: I have pied people because they were really annoying. Occasionally someone will come on here and attack someone for something that they really didn’t say, and that is tiresome. The version of the pie filter that gets rid of responses is pretty nice.

  71. 71.

    redshirt

    @Betty Cracker:

    Were you seriously worried about a .500 team with an interim coach? The Pats have a pretty easy schedule. You can probably relax until the prospect of choking in another Super Bowl looms.

    Not seriously, but slightly, when the score remained 9-0 for far too long. 9 points can easily be surmounted.

    19 is much tougher, and I am not as worried now. The Pats defense has been fantastic so far.

  73. 73.

    Corner Stone

    @efgoldman:

    I emailed Cole (first time ever!) who dropped the banhammar. That’s why the new nym.

    First time ever? Why so reticent? Cole and I email back and forth pretty much every week. He’s always looking for different perspectives on things from places outside West By God Virginia.

  75. 75.

    redshirt

    @Corner Stone:

    First time ever? Why so reticent? Cole and I email back and forth pretty much every week. He’s always looking for different perspectives on things from places outside West By God Virginia.

    Look how important and influential he is! LOL.

  79. 79.

    Felonius Monk

    @efgoldman:

    It’s the functional equivalent of a ’65 Chevy when we were kids.

    My first new car was a ’65 Chevy. Well, a Chevelle. Not sure that was considered a real Chevy.

    Hear this song on the radio the other day and it reminded me of you.

  81. 81.

    redshirt

    @efgoldman:

    Nothing, as long as he’s not talking.
    The mute button exists primarily for pregame, halftime, and postgame shows.

    I think Deion is smart and insightful, as far as NFL analysts go.

  82. 82.

    seaboogie

    @Omnes Omnibus: So I am a little bit curious: how do you get to come back after being so egregious? Did T&H and LB just decide to walk away, do you suppose? Less obsessed and delusional than the other trolls under the bridge?

  83. 83.

    redshirt

    @Gin & Tonic:

    You tell me. I’ve never had cross words with him.

    Me either, that I can recall. That’s why it’s funny he’s pied me, and why I suspect he’s pied a substantial number of people on this site.

  84. 84.

    Betty Cracker

    @redshirt: I hate his show-boating, god-bothering Seminole guts, and he has no fucking clue what he’s talking about 95% of the time.

  89. 89.

    redshirt

    @seaboogie:

    How do you know that you are pied?

    Over several days I’ve asked him specific questions to which I’ve never received a reply.

    In this very thread, it seems proven. Watch:

    Hey Corner Stone! Your local sports teams are garbage!

  90. 90.

    Corner Stone

    @Betty Cracker:

    I hate his show-boating, god-bothering Seminole guts, and he has no fucking clue what he’s talking about 95% of the time.

    Deion is a flat out asshole, there is no doubt. But that dude took raw gifted talent, asshole trash talking, and perfect technique to dominate at his position.
    Watch him whip. Watch him nae nae. That dude was the balls at cover CB. Tackle? not so much.

  93. 93.

    redshirt

    @Corner Stone:

    Deion is a flat out asshole, there is no doubt. But that dude took raw gifted talent, asshole trash talking, and perfect technique to dominate at his position.
    Watch him whip. Watch him nae nae. That dude was the balls at cover CB. Tackle? not so much.

    I’m not talking about Deion as a player but Deion as an analyst. He’s better than most of the clowns on TV.

  96. 96.

    Eric U.

    I definitely had TnH pied. There was no entertainment value there at all, and the responses were not entertaining either. RtR, OTOH, is a perfect simulation of a Bushbot, and that’s entertaining. Book it, libs! Although the racism was a bit much, and the new incarnation featured some of that at first.

    @seaboogie: it’s really not that easy. If you start banning by ISP, then you are going to wipe out a lot of people. Banning by IP doesn’t work for most of us since we can easily change that. So really you are stuck banning by email and nym. Which is obviously a moving target, but it takes a certain amount of work on their part, so maybe they’ll go away

  97. 97.

    Omnes Omnibus

    @seaboogie: I don’t have any idea how the technical side of the banning process works. But I would appreciate it if you would explain your remarks about me.

  99. 99.

    seaboogie

    @Omnes Omnibus: My remarks about you!? I am very confused.

    Ahhh…see G&T’s comment and now understand. Was perhaps not using English properly. And yes, I was talking about the technical aspects of banning, and re-appearing.

  100. 100.

    Betty Cracker

    @redshirt: Mostly a show-boating, god-bothering, clueless thing. There are plenty of former Seminoles I like just fine as players. But when I already dislike one, it’s another strike against them.

    @Corner Stone: Agree he was a talented corner. He sucks as a commentator, IMO.

  101. 101.

    FlyingToaster

    @seaboogie: The e-mail address attached gets banned as well, and possibly the specific IP address. However, I can get a new IP address by telling my router “refresh”, or if the power goes out for either me (doubtful, I’ve got a UPS on the router/cablemodem/WAP, as well as both cable boxes) or for the ISP (the local servers are less than a mile away, but they have a generator).

    Also see proxy; if you’re trolling, you’ve probably set up a string of proxies to use. I certainly did, back in my FC trolling Stormfront days.

  115. 115.

    seaboogie

    Speaking of connections to Cole, what was the name of that poster who sold some paintings to Cole?

    For someone who is pretty much every third comment, you don’t seem to be following this too closely. It’s T&H. And I gather that we are to speak of the dead with only their nym initials.

  120. 120.

    seaboogie

    @Omnes Omnibus:

    Mysterious are the ways of FYWP.

    Thank you, Yoda.

    Also, I wonder how many other blogs that use FYWP use this same acronym. Because I wonder about a lot of things, I guess….

  130. 130.

    Corner Stone

    Let me just say here again. I commissioned a series of work from Tim and I fucking love it. I look at it every day. I could not have imagined something so awesome. It’s not caricature style, it’s real bad ass work. I love it, and it makes me happy.

  131. 131.

    seaboogie

    @Omnes Omnibus: Hah! I so wanted to link to a prior post the other day the Triumph the Comic Insult Dog’s performance with a bunch of dressed in character folks for some past Star Wars debut. I am so not one of those who geek out on this or even follow it, but it would have involved me agreeing with “A Guy” on something, so I passed.

  136. 136.

    redshirt

    @Corner Stone:

    Let me just say here again. I commissioned a series of work from Tim and I fucking love it. I look at it every day. I could not have imagined something so awesome. It’s not caricature style, it’s real bad ass work. I love it, and it makes me happy.

    That’s cool. Anyone who pays money for someone else’s artistic work is cool. The whole process is cool – art as business.

  137. 137.

    seaboogie

    New site update coming soon – tomorrow, maybe? I hope that the format doesn’t change so much that these discussions don’t veer off in the wonderful ways that they do – ‘twould be a damn shame.

  142. 142.

    Omnes Omnibus

    @seaboogie: Cole has often stated that he is opposed to threaded comments. He also did say that the rebuild will give readers the option of threading things themselves. I am dubious about how well that will work. The randomness of these threads is part of what makes this place fun.

  143. 143.

    redshirt

    I’m super impressed with this Pats team now.

    They’re the Super Bowl favorites, by far.

    The Denver – Green Bay game this Sunday night will determine who will compete for number 2.

  145. 145.

    PurpleGirl

    @sparrow: One thing you can do is learn some deep breathing exercises and then do them at different times during the day and especially when you start to feel the tension building. These are exercises that you can do sitting down, in your office chair or standing up at your desk.

  150. 150.

    Omnes Omnibus

    @CaseyL: There are results one sees when a good team plays a great one. We didn’t see that tonight. The Pats are a great team. The Dolphins did not play like a good team that was just out matched. They played like a team that was not very good.

  151. 151.

    redshirt

    @efgoldman: The Pats get to play Houston later. Hear that, Corner Stone? Your long cherished Texans might get waxed by 70.

    The Pats schedule is pretty easy looking from here to the Super Bowl. :)

  157. 157.

    redshirt

    @Omnes Omnibus: Probably, and I like your chances in that game, since GB this year is a much more well rounded team.

    I’ll predict this week’s game as Green Bay 30, Denver 13.

    Manning will look like an animatronic ragdoll.
    GB’s defense will score points.

  158. 158.

    different-church-lady

    @redshirt:

    Interesting – the first woman ref in the NFL is in this game.

    Let’s see how terrible she is.

    She’s a line judge, and she was a hell of a lot better than the buffoon they had doing the spotting in last Sunday’s Pats-Jets game.

  160. 160.

    different-church-lady

    @efgoldman:

    The next commentator who calls Tannehill a “franchise quarterback” ought to have his knuckles rapped by Charlie Pierce’s parochial school nuns.

    Even when the franchise is Miami?

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