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Friday Night Fights Open Thread: Aging White Men, Talking Smack

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darth cheney silences poppy bush

(Nick Anderson via GoComics.com)
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A Democrat once said “Victory has a thousand fathers, but defeat is an orphan.” Repubs prefer to think of defeat as a bastard child, and the Bush Crime Cartel is busily Jerry-Springer-ing its paternity.

Mr. Pierce explains:

It seems that Poppy Bush sat down with Parson Meacham to hash out Poppy’s life. And who could be a better wingman for the job than the Parson, who’s made a lucrative business out of the Great Man Theory of American history? In the course of their discussions—which, alas, have led to a book-like object—the elder Bush has some harsh words for a certain former secretary of defense of his casual acquaintance.​​

“I think he served the president badly,” Bush told Meacham, Peter Baker of the New York Times reported, quoting the book. He added: “I’ve never been that close to him anyway. … There’s a lack of humility, a lack of seeing what the other guy thinks. He’s more kick ass and take names, take numbers. I think he paid a price for that.” (Rumsfeld resigned as secretary of defense in 2006 after conditions in Iraq deteriorated. He declined comment about the biography to Fox News…

But then again…

… Poppy ripped Donald Rumsfeld unconditionally, and he said some tough things about Cheney, too, but he also made sure to point out that C-Plus Augustus ran his own shop. Jeb (!) made the same point about who was in charge, and went out of his way to say nice things about Cheney besides…

Why, a political cynic might almost suspect that Darth Cheney had squirreled away some “oppo research” in that man-sized safe he had removed from the Naval Observatory on his way out the door in 2009! Yet however could a man who’d gotten his start in national politics as a CREEPster in Richard Nixon’s administration ever stoop to such low, ungentlemanly tactics?

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  3. 3.

    BillinGlendaleCA

    So I see a Cole tweet that he’s not wearing any clothes. Maybe this would account for his illness.

  4. 4.

    benw

    @Elizabelle: I’m feeling the same way, myself. Especially after the big pile of Bernie awesome in the MSNBC forum tonight. Basically if the categories start with “in Assholes…” I start to check out.

  5. 5.

    Mnemosyne (iPhone)

    Site is completely borked for me on the iPad, so I’m going to watch “And Then There Were None” on TCM instead. Who knew Walter Huston and Barry Fitzgerald were in a movie directed by Rene Clair?

  6. 6.

    Schlemazel

    @BillinGlendaleCA:
    You’re a hell of an optimist! I assume they will be around for years yet & acting as badly as always so we have a never-ending string of Republicans threads. Laugh, shake our heads, cry, scream in anger, all in their turn but not ending any time soon sadly.

  10. 10.

    RSA

    @BillinGlendaleCA:

    So I see a Cole tweet that he’s not wearing any clothes. Maybe this would account for his illness.

    Like the paleo diet, the paleo wardrobe has its limitations with respect to healthy living.

  11. 11.

    BillinGlendaleCA

    @Schlemazel: They are a bottomless well of bullshit.
    Probably too cheep to pay for city water and sewer, and are still using the well next to the septic tank.

  12. 12.

    Corner Stone

    God but I just can’t watch Murph break down Rockets game film. And I love watching game tape.

  17. 17.

    Roger Moore

    @Amir Khalid:

    Darth Vader served an Emperor. Whom does Darth Cheney serve?

    Yoda: Always two there are, no more, no less. A master and an apprentice.
    Mace Windu: But which was destroyed, the master or the apprentice?

    I’m figuring that Darth Cheney was the master and Darth Deciderer was the apprentice.

  22. 22.

    MattF

    @Elizabelle: I think of it as a touring circus– tent show plus sideshow– where the acrobats (and the audience) don’t believe in gravity. What you get is “Adventures in cognitive dissonance.”

    And ignoring it all is a great temptation, but would be a mistake. These people could easily end up running the Federal Government.

  23. 23.

    Helen

    @Corner Stone:

    But. My mom. The BIGGEST Feminist in the history of feminists. Dad. Dunno. Biden called him. Planes. Lots of planes. Air Force.

    Don’t need no money. Cuz my family has more than they can spend in 3 lifetimes. Hi BJ. Hi John Cole. Give me money.

    The end.

  24. 24.

    Aleta

    @Mnemosyne (iPhone): If you have Netflix, Desk Set is there now. Written by the Ephron parents of Nora and Delia. (Just the movie, not the orig play.) I looked up the director, Walter Lang, and he started out in silents, eventually did The King and I, and maybe ended up with Snow White and the Three Stooges. (Also Cheaper by the Dozen and State Fair.)

  30. 30.

    Aleta

    @Kropadope:
    Right, but I don’t have one in the comment box area. It disappeared awhile ago, before the Change. Is there an edit button such as of which you speak, located somewhere else?

  31. 31.

    SRW1

    Jebbie urged Poppy in 1992 to drop Quayle as VP in favor of Rumsie?

    Isn’t that revelation jeopardizing one of Jebbie’s most precious endorsement in the 2016 primary?

  33. 33.

    FlyingToaster

    I saw several ¿Jeb? ads this evening when flipping through tv. I understand the placement on Blue Bloods, 20/20 and Dateline — old people watch those. But not Grimm. Not Hawaii 5-0 (reboot).

    Also, Mr. Not-Bush, your ads are not going to attract anyone. They’re boring. Nobody in New Hamster gives a fuck about what you did in Florida. They want to know how they can stop being a contributor state and start getting money out of the Feds like Alabama does.

    And I swear to dog, the cheapest ad buy in town will be whatever PAC starts buying evening news time with “JEB wants to interfere in your family — ask about Terry SCHAIVO.” Americans for Privacy Rights paid for this message.

    And has RtR found a new proxy/nym yet?

  34. 34.

    FlyingToaster

    @efgoldman: This is Tommy’s night job, so the answer is almost certainly “yeah, I got tired of the endless bitching, so it’s gone. Sucks to be you.”

  35. 35.

    Aleta

    @efgoldman:
    “html formatting works (obviously)”
    I don’t understand what that means.
    And, why is is “hit or miss whether the comment opens in the edit window” ?

    Thanks for the clues, though. For a time, it did open in an edit window and the clock would count down, but still no edit was possible.

    This was happening for me some weeks before the Great Upgradheaval.

  37. 37.

    Aleta

    @efgoldman:
    Yeah, I remember that. But it stopped showing up for me, and before it disappeared, the countdown went on but editing didn’t work. And before that, it worked like you said. (Mac OS X 10.6.8, Safari). Same thing happens on the ipad.

  38. 38.

    benw

    @efgoldman: I pretty much love everything Moby Dick, but In the Heart of the Sea sounds like a straightforward dramatization of the sinking of the Essex, which doesn’t have a lot to do with the themes of Melville’s novel.

  40. 40.

    Omnes Omnibus

    @benw: The Essex story was Melville’s inspiration for the novel, but you’re right that it really has nothing to do with “Moby Dick.”

  45. 45.

    Aleta

    @benw: There was a kickstarter for a Moby Dick card game. The illustrations on the cards are interesting and the makers were sincerely obsessed. Literature majors you know. I ordered one but never played it.

    After the Essex sank (rammed by a whale), it would have been logical for the men to head for the nearest islands in their lifeboats. But they decided not to, for fear of cannibals. (Mistaken.). Unfortunately they then had to eat each other on the way home.

  48. 48.

    Mike in NC

    @benw: Maybe true enough, but we loved the book and can’t wait for the movie. Imagine something not based on stupid comic book characters.

  53. 53.

    Omnes Omnibus

    With no offense to Tommy (who appears to be technically competent), I think it might have been a bad idea to hire a commenter as a developer. Tommy is screwed.

  56. 56.

    Omnes Omnibus

    Late night people seem to have disappeared. Oh well, most of us don’t internet properly – maybe we will learn if we are taught the right way to internet.

  58. 58.

    Pie Happens (opiejeanne)

    @Omnes Omnibus: I’m here, for what it’s worth.
    We have a house guest so we’re trying to figure out activities for tomorrow near Seattle, and it’s going to rain. Visit a winery? Buy a new toilet at the hardware store? Visit EMP and/or the art museum?
    Spoiled for choice.

  61. 61.

    Pie Happens (opiejeanne)

    @BillinGlendaleCA: Me too, although these days it’s pretty watered down from what it was in 1980, what with the earthquake causing them to close off some of the cooler areas of the tour. Some of the history seems to have changed a bit, too, but that’s a pretty good idea. If the weather was better we could take her on the “dark” version of the tour, the one after dark that visits some of the shadier stories and shadier parts of town.

  65. 65.

    sm*t cl*de

    We have a house guest so we’re trying to figure out activities for tomorrow near Seattle

    Spend the day at Archie McPhees. Then brewpubs.

  66. 66.

    Keith G

    @Elizabelle: There is a lot of importance to what you have said there. We, the hard core of our tribe, know what they, the hard core of their tribe, are all about. We have read about their silliness, ineptitude, and hatefulness quite enough, really.

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