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And so this is Christmas

by DougJ|  November 10, 20159:50 pm| 116 Comments

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What are the odds we get a TWOC question? Is there anything we can do to make sure there’s one? If we all go on twitter and write War On Christmas over and over again, will it help

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  1. 1.

    Jeffro

    November 10, 2015 at 9:53 pm

    Give it just a minute or two …

  2. 2.

    benw

    November 10, 2015 at 9:53 pm

    Help us all go insane, yes.

  3. 3.

    Jerzy Russian

    November 10, 2015 at 9:55 pm

    Thanks for the ear worm, Doug!, you son of a motherless goat.

  4. 4.

    Omnes Omnibus

    November 10, 2015 at 9:56 pm

    Dude, just remember that the Christmas bells that ring there are the clanging chimes of doom.

  5. 5.

    trollhattan

    November 10, 2015 at 9:57 pm

    The Wowah on CoalMas. I like conflating awesome concepts.

  6. 6.

    Gin & Tonic

    November 10, 2015 at 9:57 pm

    Isn’t the CEO of Starbucks Jewish? Why should his company be marking the birth of Christ?

  7. 7.

    benw

    November 10, 2015 at 9:58 pm

    @Omnes Omnibus: ask not for whom the Christmas bells toll…

  8. 8.

    Jeffro

    November 10, 2015 at 9:59 pm

    I am sure it feels good to some people (ok most on the right) but can anyone explain to me why a functioning western democracy would want to abolish its tax collection agency?

  9. 9.

    tybee

    November 10, 2015 at 10:01 pm

    santa claus wears a red suit…

  10. 10.

    Omnes Omnibus

    November 10, 2015 at 10:02 pm

    @benw: No… There’s a world outside your window, and it’s a world of dread and fear.

  11. 11.

    Omnes Omnibus

    November 10, 2015 at 10:03 pm

    @Gin & Tonic: Jesus was Jewish.

  12. 12.

    Debbie

    November 10, 2015 at 10:04 pm

    @Gin & Tonic:

    Because this is America, dammit!

  13. 13.

    danielx

    November 10, 2015 at 10:04 pm

    There will be a War On Christmas somewhere, and these guys will definitely want to have it involve bombing brown people in retaliation.

  14. 14.

    The Other Chuck

    November 10, 2015 at 10:04 pm

    @Jeffro: What on earth makes you think they want a functioning democracy? They’ve made quite blatant attacks on both “functioning” and “democracy” over the last couple decades in case you haven’t noticed.

  15. 15.

    Jeffro

    November 10, 2015 at 10:05 pm

    Rubio whomping Rand here, ouch

  16. 16.

    Jeffro

    November 10, 2015 at 10:06 pm

    @The Other Chuck: hello, it was tongue-in-cheek. This ain’t my first GOP debate ;)

  17. 17.

    Baud

    November 10, 2015 at 10:08 pm

    @Omnes Omnibus:

    Do they know it’s War on Christmastime at all?

  18. 18.

    The Other Chuck

    November 10, 2015 at 10:08 pm

    @Jeffro: Oh, it was a sample question. Or would be a good one anyway. Sorry, my sense of humor is on the fritz. Given the fact that winning against these monsters isn’t actually a given.

  19. 19.

    mai naem mobile

    November 10, 2015 at 10:09 pm

    Well, its Hindoo Christmas tomorrow and I demand a Svastika on my Starbucks coffee cup.

  20. 20.

    Omnes Omnibus

    November 10, 2015 at 10:10 pm

    @Baud: Thank you. Damn!

  21. 21.

    Doug!

    November 10, 2015 at 10:11 pm

    @Gin & Tonic:

    Christ was Jewish.

  22. 22.

    The Other Chuck

    November 10, 2015 at 10:12 pm

    Starbucks is set to announce that anyone dissatisfied with the current cups for religious reasons will be granted a free Venti® coffee. Poured straight from the pot down their throat.

  23. 23.

    Mingobat f/k/a Karen in GA

    November 10, 2015 at 10:12 pm

    @Omnes Omnibus: Well, tonight thank God it’s them instead of you. (The little fuckers.)

  24. 24.

    Omnes Omnibus

    November 10, 2015 at 10:14 pm

    @Doug!: You are getting to be like John. You don’t even read the blog anymore. What happened to you, man? You used to be cool.

  25. 25.

    p.a.

    November 10, 2015 at 10:15 pm

    @Doug!: only 1/2. but granted, on the maternal side.

  26. 26.

    equs_1776

    November 10, 2015 at 10:16 pm

    @tybee: I see what you did there

  27. 27.

    Omnes Omnibus

    November 10, 2015 at 10:16 pm

    @p.a.: That’s all that matters.

  28. 28.

    Renie

    November 10, 2015 at 10:16 pm

    it will be the last question before they all say MERRY CHRISTMAS TO ALL

  29. 29.

    SFAW

    November 10, 2015 at 10:18 pm

    @Omnes Omnibus:
    @Doug!:

    Christ was Jewish.

    The key word is “was.”

    The Mormons did a posthumous conversion on him.

  30. 30.

    benw

    November 10, 2015 at 10:19 pm

    @Omnes Omnibus: dangit, I had to google before I remembered.

    Thank God it’s them instead of yeeeeeeeuuuuuuw!

  31. 31.

    Omnes Omnibus

    November 10, 2015 at 10:21 pm

    @SFAW: But he came back to life and thereafter did not die again, so I don’t know that the conversion took.

  32. 32.

    SFAW

    November 10, 2015 at 10:22 pm

    @Omnes Omnibus:

    You used to be cool.

    ???

    You and I have different definitions for the word “cool,” apparently.

  33. 33.

    mai naem mobile

    November 10, 2015 at 10:22 pm

    I think Carson was given some special Breaking Bad blue meth tonight. He’s more alert tonight.

  34. 34.

    schrodinger's cat

    November 10, 2015 at 10:23 pm

    @mai naem mobile: Wow, that statement is in poor taste.
    Hindus have used the swastika long before Hitler was even born. Hitler appropriated it. FYI there are key differences between Hindu swastika and the Nazi appropriated one. Diwali has already begun and I for one don’t need Starbucks to redesign their cups to celebrate.

  35. 35.

    SFAW

    November 10, 2015 at 10:24 pm

    @Omnes Omnibus:

    I yield to your superior logic.

    Well, except for the Doug!-being-“cool” thing.

  36. 36.

    Omnes Omnibus

    November 10, 2015 at 10:24 pm

    @SFAW: Look who was been used as the comparison.

  37. 37.

    Anoniminous

    November 10, 2015 at 10:26 pm

    @schrodinger’s cat:

    Happy Diwali

  38. 38.

    p.a.

    November 10, 2015 at 10:27 pm

    @Omnes Omnibus:@Omnes Omnibus: Jewish tradition, understood. But genetically, ‘he’ was Jewish x and ?

    Parthenogenesis can only produce females, correct?

  39. 39.

    mai naem mobile

    November 10, 2015 at 10:28 pm

    Jeb! can sing the ‘Where the only water flowing is the bitter sting my tears’ part of the song.

  40. 40.

    schrodinger's cat

    November 10, 2015 at 10:29 pm

    @Anoniminous: Thanks, that video was pretty funny when I watched it on mute.

  41. 41.

    SFAW

    November 10, 2015 at 10:30 pm

    @Omnes Omnibus:

    In your comment, “used to be cool” was not expressed in a “relative to Cole” context.

    Now, if you had written “used to be cooler,” that would have been (contextually) OK. For example, I used to be cooler than Ted Cruz. (I hope.)

  42. 42.

    Betty Cracker

    November 10, 2015 at 10:30 pm

    Trump: Shaddup, lady!

  43. 43.

    Omnes Omnibus

    November 10, 2015 at 10:30 pm

    Fuck it, never mind.

  44. 44.

    BillinGlendaleCA

    November 10, 2015 at 10:31 pm

    @Omnes Omnibus: It’s The Man, The Man got to our DougJ.

  45. 45.

    Jeffro

    November 10, 2015 at 10:31 pm

    Jesus, Rand quit making sense here and there, please. (He’s pointing out the US isn’t omnipotent – a new concept to most of these clowns). My head can’t take it.

  46. 46.

    mai naem mobile

    November 10, 2015 at 10:31 pm

    @schrodinger’s cat: Jeezus, I was being snarky and as a Hindu I’m well aware of the Hindu Svastika being used millenias before Hitler.

  47. 47.

    SFAW

    November 10, 2015 at 10:32 pm

    @p.a.:

    But genetically, ‘he’ was Jewish x and ?

    Well, Joseph was born Jewish, but after he got kicked out of med school, his parents disowned him, and he became a Scientologist.

    ETA: And by the way, can I interest you in a free personality test?

  48. 48.

    Betty Cracker

    November 10, 2015 at 10:33 pm

    Lil’ Marco scores neocon points! They hate us for our freedom!

  49. 49.

    Anoniminous

    November 10, 2015 at 10:33 pm

    @schrodinger’s cat:

    Just tried and … it is, isn’t it?

    Diwali goes better with happy, happy, drugs, apparently.

  50. 50.

    Jeffro

    November 10, 2015 at 10:34 pm

    Rubio again for the win… I think he is starting to believe he might be OK at this debate thing

  51. 51.

    Baud

    November 10, 2015 at 10:35 pm

    Kasich gave Obama credit. He’s given up.

  52. 52.

    Gin & Tonic

    November 10, 2015 at 10:35 pm

    Is this debate still going on? I’m afraid to turn the TV on.

  53. 53.

    schrodinger's cat

    November 10, 2015 at 10:36 pm

    @mai naem mobile: Your humor didn’t translate online.

  54. 54.

    Jeffro

    November 10, 2015 at 10:37 pm

    Whoops, Kasich just gave Obama a little bit of credit…come on John, it’s time to be the right-most Democrat instead of the only partially, occasionally sensible Republican

  55. 55.

    p.a.

    November 10, 2015 at 10:37 pm

    @Omnes Omnibus: That’s beyond my pay grade; I’m not Jewish, and I believe there are Jews on both sides of that issue, whether in the diaspora or in Israel.

  56. 56.

    Anoniminous

    November 10, 2015 at 10:37 pm

    @Gin & Tonic:

    Yeah, Rubio just said Putin “runs a criminal enterprise.”

    In case you care.

  57. 57.

    Eric U.

    November 10, 2015 at 10:37 pm

    @Jeffro: You apparently haven’t heard of the 5 minute rule with Rand and his dad. They occasionally make sense for up to 5 minutes. Then things start to go off the tracks

  58. 58.

    Jeffro

    November 10, 2015 at 10:38 pm

    @Gin & Tonic<

  59. 59.

    Jeffro

    November 10, 2015 at 10:39 pm

    @Eric U.: well I hear you but I have yet to hear him make sense for five minutes straight – it’s more like one minute out of every five.

  60. 60.

    p.a.

    November 10, 2015 at 10:39 pm

    @SFAW: When I get one, I’ll take the test.

  61. 61.

    Anoniminous

    November 10, 2015 at 10:40 pm

    And now Kaisch says that he would destroy the tools China uses to mount cyber attacks.

    These people are IDIOTS

  62. 62.

    Ruckus

    November 10, 2015 at 10:42 pm

    @Jeffro:
    it’s more like one half minute out one random five, every other day.
    Fixed it for you.

  63. 63.

    Goblue72

    November 10, 2015 at 10:44 pm

    @Jeffro: At the end of the day, a lot of this crap traces to the right wing nutjob beliefs of some Texas oilmen who dug some holes in the ground and had money shoot out, and now they think they are genius self-made men.

  64. 64.

    LookingForACanadian

    November 10, 2015 at 10:45 pm

    i’m very sorry if this has been discussed, but the B-J RSS isn’t working. i think the last post into my reader (Feedly/Newsify) was sometime yesterday. insert sad face.

  65. 65.

    Ruckus

    November 10, 2015 at 10:45 pm

    @Anoniminous:
    When your whole policy concept is to throw a hand full of shit on the wall 5 times a day and see what sticks, this is what happens.

  66. 66.

    a hip hop artist from Idaho (fka Bella Q)

    November 10, 2015 at 10:46 pm

    @Omnes Omnibus: I hear it has to do with a new gig at work or something. Or maybe because he got married. Darn disappointing, whatever the reason.

  67. 67.

    Jeffro

    November 10, 2015 at 10:47 pm

    Kaisch just railed against greed…John, can
    I save you a seat on the left, m’man?

  68. 68.

    Omnes Omnibus

    November 10, 2015 at 10:47 pm

    @a hip hop artist from Idaho (fka Bella Q): It is sad.

  69. 69.

    Jeffro

    November 10, 2015 at 10:48 pm

    @Ruckus: lol, true

  70. 70.

    Jeffro

    November 10, 2015 at 10:49 pm

    Cruz now railing against how
    Government looks out for the
    Rich…

    …up is down, down is up…

    … I think we had better consider a massive initiative to take the “low” out of low information voters.

  71. 71.

    p.a.

    November 10, 2015 at 10:49 pm

    @Ruckus: That must be related to driftglass’ The Tribe Who Rubs Shit in Their Hair.

  72. 72.

    SFAW

    November 10, 2015 at 10:50 pm

    @p.a.:

    When I get one, I’ll take the test.

    Funny, that’s approximately how we used to respond to them, when I was in college.

  73. 73.

    mai naem mobile

    November 10, 2015 at 10:52 pm

    @Anoniminous: Well,duh,he’s going to steal those intertubes from the Chinese and they won’t be able to use the internet again to attack us.

  74. 74.

    Anoniminous

    November 10, 2015 at 10:53 pm

    Oh hell, kill me now … they are talking about Gold

  75. 75.

    Ruckus

    November 10, 2015 at 10:53 pm

    @p.a.:
    Sounds about the same concept. But if results are what count, I’d bet that it’s possible to have more shit stuck in your hair than on a wall though so maybe Driftglass wins.

  76. 76.

    LookingForACanadian

    November 10, 2015 at 10:54 pm

    @LookingForACanadian: oopsie. fixed. (by removing and re-adding)

  77. 77.

    Redshift

    November 10, 2015 at 10:54 pm

    @Jeffro: The rule is just that they never talk for more than five minutes without saying something batshit insane, not that they usually get close to that five minute mark.

  78. 78.

    Jeffro

    November 10, 2015 at 10:55 pm

    @Anoniminous: ignore that…its just Cruz trolling for Paul supporters

  79. 79.

    srv

    November 10, 2015 at 10:55 pm

    Republicans saying Dodd-Frank is too weak and no more bailing out Wall Street.

    Liberals…. chirping.

    It’s time to get rid of the FDIC.

  80. 80.

    p.a.

    November 10, 2015 at 10:55 pm

    @Jeffro: Don’t forget no matter what the mouthbreathers are told along those lines, what they hear is “you’re taxes go to welfare queens driving Caddys and bucks buying t-bones.”

  81. 81.

    Peale

    November 10, 2015 at 10:56 pm

    @Anoniminous: he plans to sneak into Beijing and replace their computers with Lil Professors. And maybe a Merlin.

  82. 82.

    Redshift

    November 10, 2015 at 10:56 pm

    @LookingForACanadian: Yeah, I mentioned it to Tommy this afternoon and got a reply back, so it should be on the list.

  83. 83.

    mai naem mobile

    November 10, 2015 at 10:56 pm

    Carly Fiorina has a really really annoyng manner. Like the know it all Tracey Flick character except ten times more annoying.

  84. 84.

    Ruckus

    November 10, 2015 at 10:57 pm

    @SFAW:
    That’s not all that good of an answer though. They must not have been that far up in the organization or they would know to offer to build you one. For a price of course.

  85. 85.

    LookingForACanadian

    November 10, 2015 at 10:58 pm

    @Redshift: deleting and re-adding worked for me (thanks for your response!)

  86. 86.

    p.a.

    November 10, 2015 at 10:58 pm

    @mai naem mobile: Did Flick win? Can’t remember.

  87. 87.

    Anoniminous

    November 10, 2015 at 10:59 pm

    I’ve lost 20 IQ points listening to this drivel.

  88. 88.

    Jeffro

    November 10, 2015 at 11:00 pm

    @Redshift: speaking of bat shit insane where are all the Carson questions/grilling I was promised??

    Also, in the post-debate coverage for the undercard debate, Lou Dobbs was such an unbelievable knob-polisher for the Republicans it was, well, unbelievable. Could someone please hide his cholesterol meds, for the good of the country?

  89. 89.

    Redshift

    November 10, 2015 at 11:00 pm

    @LookingForACanadian: Ah. I’ll try that.

  90. 90.

    Peale

    November 10, 2015 at 11:00 pm

    @srv: that’s easy for them to say when the banks aren’t collapsing. But hey! They are probably against Algeria joining NATO and giving federal funds to host the Olympics in Chicago.

  91. 91.

    Omnes Omnibus

    November 10, 2015 at 11:00 pm

    @Anoniminous: I watched the first two episodes of “Agent X” and talked to people on the phone. “Agent X” wasn’t much, but I am sure it was better than the debate.

  92. 92.

    schrodinger's cat

    November 10, 2015 at 11:00 pm

    @Anoniminous: It was pretty weird, never heard that song before. Come to think of it I can’t remember a single Diwali themed song from a Hindi movie, Holi on the other hand, I can think of many.

  93. 93.

    Ruckus

    November 10, 2015 at 11:01 pm

    @Anoniminous:
    That’s why I don’t listen to them. I don’t have the time left to hunt down those lost points.

  94. 94.

    Anoniminous

    November 10, 2015 at 11:01 pm

    If even half of this inane blather was turned into policy we’d be back to the 50s.

    The 1650s

  95. 95.

    Renie

    November 10, 2015 at 11:04 pm

    is it just me or have these moderators gone completely soft so they are not criticized like the CNBC ones? there’s no push back at all on the crazy these guys are saying

  96. 96.

    Mike J

    November 10, 2015 at 11:04 pm

    Speaking of the debate, should I watch a bunch of people with the hands of rich people up their asses or should I watch the Muppets?

  97. 97.

    Roger Moore

    November 10, 2015 at 11:06 pm

    @LookingForACanadian:

    i’m very sorry if this has been discussed, but the B-J RSS isn’t working.

    That’s odd, because my reader seems to be working fine. It shows everything including this post.

  98. 98.

    Anoniminous

    November 10, 2015 at 11:07 pm

    @schrodinger’s cat:

    It was from a movie “Home Delivery.” I have no idea how or when I ran into it.

  99. 99.

    Mnemosyne (tablet)

    November 10, 2015 at 11:09 pm

    @p.a.:

    Well, if you think about it, we really don’t have any proof that Jesus was XY. He never had any kids that we know of, and there’s no body to test. So let’s go with Transgender Messiah.

  100. 100.

    Omnes Omnibus

    November 10, 2015 at 11:10 pm

    @Mnemosyne (tablet): Mary Magdalene was a beard – of sorts?

  101. 101.

    LookingForACanadian

    November 10, 2015 at 11:12 pm

    @Roger Moore: Indeed. For me it’s been odd for a while (several months) — about 75% of posts were coming in, the other 25% was MIA.

  102. 102.

    Renie

    November 10, 2015 at 11:13 pm

    idiots at drudge havepolled this way tonite: tRump, cruz, paul, rubio, carson, fiorina and good ole ?JEB last!

  103. 103.

    redshirt

    November 10, 2015 at 11:13 pm

    @Mike J: Muppets.

  104. 104.

    Anoniminous

    November 10, 2015 at 11:15 pm

    @Omnes Omnibus: @Ruckus:

    I had to watch to see how deep in the crapper we’ll be if one of these cretins is elected.

  105. 105.

    Omnes Omnibus

    November 10, 2015 at 11:16 pm

    @Anoniminous: I already know.

  106. 106.

    Ruckus

    November 10, 2015 at 11:17 pm

    @Anoniminous:
    Sorry about that.
    I figured that once your in the crapper, sinking and can’t see light above you any longer it really doesn’t matter that much.

    Also I know that you don’t have to hear the entire contents of someone’s brain to know they are fucking crazy. The highlights give you far more than proof enough.

  107. 107.

    danielx

    November 10, 2015 at 11:18 pm

    @Mike J:

    Speaking of the debate, should I watch a bunch of people with the hands of rich people up their asses or should I watch the Muppets?

    A distinction without a difference, although the Muppets are probably more articulate.

  108. 108.

    Ruckus

    November 10, 2015 at 11:21 pm

    @danielx:
    Probably?
    Muppets are more articulate, smarter, less evil, and generally better looking.

  109. 109.

    Mnemosyne (tablet)

    November 10, 2015 at 11:22 pm

    @Omnes Omnibus:

    The whole thing about Mary Magdelene being a hooker isn’t anywhere in the Gospels, so they could just be pals.

    Most scholars who study early Christians nowadays will tell you that the contributions of women were suppressed, to the point that they’ve discovered that portraits of early church “fathers” were repainted with beards later on and were originally portraits of women. Junia was turned into Junius in later translations, because of course a woman couldn’t have been an important early bishop. Etc. So, heck, Jesus and Magdelene could have been sisters for all we know.

  110. 110.

    Mnemosyne (tablet)

    November 10, 2015 at 11:23 pm

    @Ruckus:

    Moopets, on the other hand, are bad news. I saw the movie.

  111. 111.

    Omnes Omnibus

    November 10, 2015 at 11:26 pm

    @Mnemosyne (tablet): I said nothing about her being a hooker. I posit that she was a high class escort/courtesan. I also am not judging – just saying that she have spent some time with JC to give him an image. The fact that her condo was paid for by someone in “God mode” means very little. ::rolls eyes::

  112. 112.

    catclub

    November 10, 2015 at 11:29 pm

    @Renie:

    there’s no push back at all on the crazy these guys are saying

    The whole point of the debate should be to find ways to distinguish the candidates. only pushback questions that get past the memorized answers do that. Without that the chaos will continue.
    This does not really benefit the GOP.

  113. 113.

    Ruckus

    November 10, 2015 at 11:36 pm

    @catclub:
    On the other hand it doesn’t hurt them as much as having them actually speak.

  114. 114.

    chopper

    November 10, 2015 at 11:46 pm

    @schrodinger’s cat:

    i got the joke. I’m sure everybody else did too.

  115. 115.

    Doug!

    November 11, 2015 at 9:09 am

    @Omnes Omnibus:

    I read all about the Starbucks stuff here.

  116. 116.

    schrodinger's cat

    November 11, 2015 at 4:10 pm

    @chopper: I got the joke, just didn’t find it funny. Especially the spelling Hindoo, irked me. YMMV.

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