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You are here: Home / Politics / Yooodge & Classy Trump Deportation Force

Yooodge & Classy Trump Deportation Force

by Betty Cracker|  November 11, 20151:04 pm| 123 Comments

This post is in: Politics, Republican Stupidity, Assholes, General Stupidity

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I don’t know about you, but I think the following should be a disqualifying statement from a presidential candidate in the United States of America:

Washington (CNN) Pressed on how he would deport 11 million undocumented immigrants from the country, Donald Trump said Wednesday he would build a “deportation force.”

Trump was pressed for specifics on MSNBC’s “Morning Joe” by co-host Mika Brzezinski, who asked if he would have a “massive deportation force.”

“You’re going to have a deportation force, and you’re going to do it humanely,” Trump said. “Don’t forget, Mika, that you have millions of people that are waiting in line to come into this country and they’re waiting to come in legally. And I always say the wall, we’re going to build the wall. It’s going to be a real deal. It’s going to be a real wall.”

It should be disqualifying. But he’ll probably get a spike in the polls from proposing that officials fan out, conduct house-to-house searches and load families into trucks. Because that’s what he’s really saying; no one is going to report voluntarily to a deportation force.

Hell, I’ve been discounting Trump’s chances because he’s such an obvious buffoon, but maybe he’ll win the nomination after all. This is your GOP front-runner, ladies and gentlemen, the party of small government and a massive deportation force.

Gotta give Trump credit, though; he has an instinct for bending the narrative. This is sure to come up during the next debate, and the discussion will give the base the opportunity to separate the jack-booted thugs from the immigrant-coddling candy-asses. We know which they prefer, don’t we?

[H/T: Valued commenter Rikyrah; photo: DailyMail — soldiers rounding up Bloody Sunday demonstrators, 1972]
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  1. 1.

    beltane

    November 11, 2015 at 1:08 pm

    “Deportation force” sounds like a clumsy translation from the German. This is why the teabaggers love Trump, he tickles their paramilitary loving pleasure spot.

  2. 2.

    schrodinger's cat

    November 11, 2015 at 1:09 pm

    He will get a bump in the polls, the primary electorate will eat this up with a spoon.

  3. 3.

    Patricia Kayden

    November 11, 2015 at 1:10 pm

    Trump has said so many things that should be disqualifying that his talk about a “deportation force” is no longer shocking. He’s successfully made us numb to his stupidity. Sigh.

  4. 4.

    Belafon

    November 11, 2015 at 1:12 pm

    “First, we’ll separate the good legal Latinos from the illegals ones.”
    “But what about the Europeans that are here illegally?”
    “There are no illegal whites.”

  5. 5.

    Punchy

    November 11, 2015 at 1:13 pm

    You know who else went house to house and loaded peeps on various transporation mechanisms for forced reassignment elsewhere?

  6. 6.

    Richard Mayhew

    November 11, 2015 at 1:14 pm

    Do they get snazzy shirts in a single dark color?

  7. 7.

    schrodinger's cat

    November 11, 2015 at 1:15 pm

    OT but kinda related.
    The Indian state of Bihar rejected BJP’s scaremongering and gave India (and the world) bestest Diwali gift evah!
    An in depth analysis. I have tried to give some historical background and a glimpse into why this was a battle for India’s soul.

  8. 8.

    schrodinger's cat

    November 11, 2015 at 1:17 pm

    @Belafon: Actually there are, in NYC mostly, about 100,000 or so Irish. It was covered in NYT when immigration reform was being discussed in the Dubya Era. I also remember some reporting about how Ted Kennedy met with them etc.,

    Plus people who overstay their visa are not all Messican.

  9. 9.

    debbie

    November 11, 2015 at 1:19 pm

    @Patricia Kayden:

    Trump also never thinks ahead. What will he do when there’s no one to manicure his lawns?

  10. 10.

    Pogonip

    November 11, 2015 at 1:19 pm

    Wouldn’t happen for the same reason a house-to-house gun search will never happen: not enough money or manpower.

  11. 11.

    Mnemosyne (iPhone)

    November 11, 2015 at 1:20 pm

    @Belafon:

    As my (Republican) dad always said, one of the reasons Ted Kennedy was so big on amnesty for illegal immigrants is that Kennedy knew how many illegal Irish immigrants were working under the table in Boston.

    Frankly, our whole damn immigration system is screwed up, and even people who did everything right and have all of their paperwork still have to submit everything three times just to be told “no.” It’s so Byzantine that I’m not surprised many people just say “fuck it” and decide to fly under the radar rather than deal with 10 years or more of bureaucracy.

  12. 12.

    dedc79

    November 11, 2015 at 1:20 pm

    When Trump brought up this idea of a deportation force, I’ll admit to immediately picturing something like Abe Simpson’s union busters.

  13. 13.

    Botsplainer

    November 11, 2015 at 1:24 pm

    Hell, Trump could probably get a whole bunch of older white folks to volunteer to serve on it for free – those people are jackals about immigrants from Central America.

  14. 14.

    Amir Khalid

    November 11, 2015 at 1:25 pm

    President Trump’s US Deportation Force sounds like COBRA might set up, not GI Joe.

  15. 15.

    Bobby Thomson

    November 11, 2015 at 1:25 pm

    And otherwise smart people see Cruz (and worse, Rubio) as not only having a shot in this dynamic, but being odds on favorites as the last standing contestants for the Republican nomination.

    Seems legit.

  16. 16.

    Betty Cracker

    November 11, 2015 at 1:25 pm

    @Mnemosyne (iPhone): I lived in Boston for four years. One of my roommates was an illegal Irish immigrant. She worked — I shit you not! — at the Social Security Administration.

  17. 17.

    Mnemosyne (iPhone)

    November 11, 2015 at 1:25 pm

    @Richard Mayhew:

    They’ll have to wear black shorts. All of the shirts are already taken.

    Where’s Bertie Wooster when you need him?

  18. 18.

    trollhattan

    November 11, 2015 at 1:26 pm

    Already envisioning the rail cars needed for such a people-moving task.

    Or is this to be a reverse-direction NAFTA highway?

  19. 19.

    MomSense

    November 11, 2015 at 1:27 pm

    @schrodinger’s cat:

    Thank you!

  20. 20.

    trollhattan

    November 11, 2015 at 1:27 pm

    @Betty Cracker:
    Whoa. Sounds like a uniquely Boston experience.

  21. 21.

    I'mNotSureWhoIWantToBeYet

    November 11, 2015 at 1:28 pm

    @schrodinger’s cat:

    Plus people who overstay their visa are not all Messican.

    Yup. Something like 40-50% of “illegal aliens” in the US are people who overstayed their visas, or overstayed without a visa. Of course, we don’t have up-to-date numbers on that statistic because DHS doesn’t have sufficient funding to get a count.

    It would be nice if our brainiac press corps would ask these Teabagger candidates how a huge classy wall on the Rio Grande is going to solve that.

    We’d have a much better informed public, and a more sensible civic dialog, if the press would actually do its job.

    (sigh)

    Cheers,
    Scott.

  22. 22.

    Mnemosyne (iPhone)

    November 11, 2015 at 1:28 pm

    Also, too, if Obama used this cue to do an ICE raid on Trump’s hotels and other properties, I wouldn’t object, though I would feel sorry for the workers.

  23. 23.

    BGinCHI

    November 11, 2015 at 1:30 pm

    @Punchy: Janet Napolitano?

  24. 24.

    Baud

    November 11, 2015 at 1:32 pm

    He can call it the Schutzstaffel TrumpsTaffel (TT).

  25. 25.

    BGinCHI

    November 11, 2015 at 1:32 pm

    @Betty Cracker: When I lived on the Cape in the late 80s (yes, I was a tiny baby), most of the bartenders and lots of the seasonal waitstaff were Irish illegals.

    They also claimed that the Guinness was superior on the Cape because it was shipped illegally from Ireland.

    I wish it were true.

  26. 26.

    Betty Cracker

    November 11, 2015 at 1:34 pm

    @trollhattan: Granted, this was a decade before 9/11, so security was much looser, and she was a temp. But still. She used to laugh about being right under their noses.

    @BGinCHI: I was there late 80s / early 90s and was also an infant at the time, naturally.

  27. 27.

    MattF

    November 11, 2015 at 1:42 pm

    Wait, wait… jackbooted thugs are the ATF. Trump is talking about the HAMUAP– Humane And Monocolor Uniformed American Police.

  28. 28.

    schrodinger's cat

    November 11, 2015 at 1:42 pm

    @MomSense: You are welcome! Any feedback/questions are much appreciated.

  29. 29.

    BGinCHI

    November 11, 2015 at 1:43 pm

    @Betty Cracker: I lived in Boston summer of 1988 (around the corner from Beacon Hill at the corner of Cambridge st and Russell).

    Saw a LOT of great music that summer and saw a lot of good films at the Brattle.

    Even though I was a wee baby.

  30. 30.

    kc

    November 11, 2015 at 1:45 pm

    Silver lining: Trump intends to create thousands of new government jobs.

  31. 31.

    schrodinger's cat

    November 11, 2015 at 1:47 pm

    @BGinCHI: Guinness drinking baby!

  32. 32.

    kc

    November 11, 2015 at 1:48 pm

    I just can’t believe that either Trump or Ben Carson actually WANTS to be president, and yet … they’re leading.

  33. 33.

    Matt Martin

    November 11, 2015 at 1:49 pm

    I think the deportation group is a great idea! I already thought of a perfect name for it too: Government Evacuation of Spanish Talking Alien People Organization. What could we call it for short? Hmmm…

  34. 34.

    PurpleGirl

    November 11, 2015 at 1:50 pm

    Woodside and Sunnyside (Queens) also has large numbers of Irish who have overstayed their visas. And they became trapped here when property/housing costs went through the roof in Ireland. They originally planned to earn an amount of cash here, save it and then go back. When property/housing went through the roof, they couldn’t do that. There was no way to really save more; the other problem was going back and then returning to the US. They are feeling trapped. (The hairdresser I used for several years was in this position.)

    ETA: I have to go out for a few hours.

  35. 35.

    Betty Cracker

    November 11, 2015 at 1:52 pm

    @BGinCHI: I was in the North End off Hanover. Ate lots of those lobster tail pastry things even though, as an infant, I lacked a full set of teeth.

  36. 36.

    Peale

    November 11, 2015 at 1:52 pm

    “You’re going to have a deportation force, and you’re going to do it humanely,” Trump said. “Don’t forget, Mika, that you have millions of people that are waiting in line to come into this country and they’re waiting to come in legally.

    Good. So he’s all in favor of rationalizing a system that has many ridiculous choke points and holds and quotas and inefficient rules to process that backlog as quickly as possible.

  37. 37.

    A guy

    November 11, 2015 at 1:53 pm

    Speaking of rail cars, the hunger strike kid at UM is the son of a railroad executive whose compensation package is 8.4 million a year. Bet that’s in the top one percent. And the black gay student body president had to issue an apology yesterday for a lying tweet that he sent out claiming the KKK was on campus and he was working with the state police on the issue. Kid is nothing more than a lying kid it seems

  38. 38.

    Dork

    November 11, 2015 at 1:55 pm

    How many Ameros is this going to cost?

  39. 39.

    The Gray Adder

    November 11, 2015 at 1:55 pm

    @debbie: He lives in Manhattan. Nobody has a lawn there.

  40. 40.

    Amir Khalid

    November 11, 2015 at 1:57 pm

    @kc:
    Imagine a 2016 convention scenario where The Donald/Dr Ben shows up with a lead in the delegate count, but, anxious to preserve his grift, tries to give sell the nomination away. The party, frightened at the thought of some hopelessly weak candidate — Jeb, say — getting crushed by Democratic nominee Bernie Clinton, tries to out-maneouvre the billionaires lining up to buy the delegates off The Donald/Dr Ben.

    There’s a movie in this, I reckon: a pretty good political thriller.

  41. 41.

    Smedley Darlington Prunebanks (formerly Mumphrey, et al.)

    November 11, 2015 at 2:00 pm

    I missed the debate, but I’d like to know whether they truly did ask the Republicans whether they’d have killed baby Hitler. I know that sounds too deranged to have happened, but, well, we’re talking about Republicans in 2015, so, in all truth, I can’t just discount that this might have happened.

    Also, I hear Cruz told us that there were no panics when we were on the gold standard? What the hell?

    @A guy:
    What, this guy, again? Get the fuck out of here.

  42. 42.

    p.a.

    November 11, 2015 at 2:01 pm

    @schrodinger’s cat:
    Only read if you have nothing fragile nearby
    Mr. Ng, who had no criminal record, overstayed a visa years ago and had been applying for a green card through his wife, a United States citizen…

    p.s.- a for profit, privately owned prison

  43. 43.

    Betty Cracker

    November 11, 2015 at 2:02 pm

    @A guy: Did you get a look at their countertops? Granite or laminate?

  44. 44.

    A guy

    November 11, 2015 at 2:05 pm

    Rich railroad kid has granite
    Lying student body president has laminate

  45. 45.

    trollhattan

    November 11, 2015 at 2:10 pm

    @The Gray Adder:
    The Donald has Central Park for his front lawn; it’s YOOOOGE. Am surprised he doesn’t have it mowed to read “TRUMP”

  46. 46.

    Gravenstone

    November 11, 2015 at 2:11 pm

    @schrodinger’s cat: I do believe that was snark. As in, “if they’re white, they are de facto legal.”

  47. 47.

    gratuitous

    November 11, 2015 at 2:14 pm

    I hope no reporter is so churlish as to try to gotcha Mr. Trump by asking how his Deportation Force is going to be paid for.

  48. 48.

    ? Martin

    November 11, 2015 at 2:15 pm

    @schrodinger’s cat:

    Plus people who overstay their visa are not all Messican.

    Most are not, btw. Over half of undocumented just in the last year were asian. We need to build a wall between us and China, apparently.

  49. 49.

    schrodinger's cat

    November 11, 2015 at 2:16 pm

    @p.a.: Sadly not surprising. I have even read about US citizens getting caught in an immigration dragnet and spending days in a detention facility.

  50. 50.

    Snarkworth

    November 11, 2015 at 2:16 pm

    OK. Box cars might work for the Mexicans. How’s Thump going to transport several million Chinese? Europeans? He’d need lots of planes. Would they be entitled to one carry-on bag each? Pretzels? It gets complicated fast.

  51. 51.

    ? Martin

    November 11, 2015 at 2:18 pm

    @Snarkworth: I think its apparent that everyone gets deported to Mexico regardless of where they came from.

  52. 52.

    max

    November 11, 2015 at 2:18 pm

    @Belafon: “First, we’ll separate the good legal Latinos from the illegals ones.”

    Dis oparation gonna bee YUUGGGGEEE! No time to sort them out! De good wons gonna cum back, see? Den we stamp de ones commun back with eh big red stamp.

    max
    [‘Quality Mexican, dats whats it gonna say.’]

  53. 53.

    schrodinger's cat

    November 11, 2015 at 2:20 pm

    @Gravenstone: I know it was snark. But there is a difference between de facto legal and legal. Those who have overstayed their visas cannot leave the country, if they do it is next to impossible to comeback.

  54. 54.

    p.a.

    November 11, 2015 at 2:20 pm

    @gratuitous: We have it covered here at Balloon Juice: spiffy uniforms. There’ll be plenty of volunteers. Always a certain % of the population, no matter the form of gvt (to paraphrase Göring).

  55. 55.

    A guy

    November 11, 2015 at 2:22 pm

    • Substantially increase resources available to control the Southern border, and other entry points, in order to prevent illegal immigration.

    Jimmy Carte, august 4 1977

  56. 56.

    max

    November 11, 2015 at 2:22 pm

    Hell, I’ve been discounting Trump’s chances because he’s such an obvious buffoon, but maybe he’ll win the nomination after all. This is your GOP front-runner

    As, see, you have made the mistake of listening to the MSM, who wish you to not believe your lying eyes when you cast the peepers upon yon polls. Responsible, decent Republicans will sort this out and form a nice bipartisan relationship with Michael Bloomberg to fix this country’s problems after all. Then we can get some nice tax cuts for the good people.

    max
    [‘It could happen. No, really.’]

  57. 57.

    ThresherK (GPad)

    November 11, 2015 at 2:23 pm

    @trollhattan: How about a pipeline? Or are the right wing less concerned if a pipeline leaks oil and chemicals than if it leaks brown-skinned folks?

    (I cannot guarantee this idea isn’t already a,blueprint somewhere.)

  58. 58.

    burnspbesq

    November 11, 2015 at 2:23 pm

    @PurpleGirl:

    Before the collapse of the Irish property bubble in around 2008, it was not unheard of for Dubliners with money to go “bargain-hunting” in New York. I remember reading that in the Irish Times on my first visit to Dublin in 2007 and finding it hard to believe, but it was in fact true.

  59. 59.

    p.a.

    November 11, 2015 at 2:25 pm

    @Belafon: “First, we’ll separate the good legal Latinos from the illegals ones.”

    We could put GW in charge. Everyone he fingers to toss, stays. Every one he gives a thumbs up will be al Qaeda or ISIS, gets arrested.

  60. 60.

    Amir Khalid

    November 11, 2015 at 2:25 pm

    @schrodinger’s cat:
    There’s a song about that.

  61. 61.

    JPL

    November 11, 2015 at 2:26 pm

    A few years ago, TX tried to pass a law that penalized those who hired undocumented immigrants. Once the good folks realized that it affected The Help, there was a backlash. The final law excluded the household help.
    The immigrants are bad unless they are ones that help you out.

  62. 62.

    NorthLeft12

    November 11, 2015 at 2:26 pm

    @schrodinger’s cat: Perhaps they need to build a wall at JFK and Logan too. That will show those damn socialistic Europeans what for!

  63. 63.

    tsquared2001

    November 11, 2015 at 2:26 pm

    @Pogonip: THAT was exactly what I thought of when I heard Trump’s plan – rounding up people is all good but getting ahead of the guns is a bridge too far.

    The sheer willful ignorance, the hoops that need to be jumped through by our corporate media in order to act like any of those motherfuckers are ready to be president of the United States – if it wasn’t so worrisome, I would have to doff my hat. Talk about huge ass huevos.

  64. 64.

    Mnemosyne (iPhone)

    November 11, 2015 at 2:28 pm

    @A guy:

    So the Koch brothers are allowed to openly buy presidential candidates but it’s the Worst Thing Ever for a rich kid to be a liberal?

    Your hypocrisy is showing again. Better zip that up.

  65. 65.

    Snarkworth

    November 11, 2015 at 2:32 pm

    @ThresherK (GPad): Oh, I love the idea of a pipeline, at least for the Spanish-speaking folk who are all going to Mexico whether that’s where they came from or not.

    Now the question is, would they walk through the pipeline? Or would you mix them with a liquid to form a kind of slurry?

  66. 66.

    Gindy51

    November 11, 2015 at 2:32 pm

    @Punchy: We did, US folks of Japanese lineage got shoved in to US camps back in the 40’s. I know one man of that era and he is a Trump man all the way. Amazing……

  67. 67.

    ruemara

    November 11, 2015 at 2:32 pm

    Maybe fascism is the conservative job creation program they can get behind.

  68. 68.

    srv

    November 11, 2015 at 2:35 pm

    @gratuitous: By the swelling tax base as Americans go back to work. Also the huge welfare, health and educational savings to be had.

    Can finally put those FEMA camps to good use. Wouldn’t that be ironic.

  69. 69.

    ThresherK (GPad)

    November 11, 2015 at 2:37 pm

    @Snarkworth: Fluid dynamics suggest pouring them in the US end fast enough would do the trick.

  70. 70.

    NorthLeft12

    November 11, 2015 at 2:37 pm

    @gratuitous:

    asking how his Deportation Force is going to be paid for.

    Are you kidding me? There are thousands of right wing gun humpers who will be eager to pay Preznut Trump for the opportunity to put on a uniform and round up them foreigners. Hell, they will supply their own guns and ammo too.

  71. 71.

    WereBear

    November 11, 2015 at 2:37 pm

    @tsquared2001: I wish I had the science fiction ability to have the ghosts of Edward R. Murrow, Walter Cronkite, and Hunter S. Thompson visit them on Christmas Eve…

  72. 72.

    p.a.

    November 11, 2015 at 2:39 pm

    @ruemara: but conservatives hate trains.

  73. 73.

    A guy

    November 11, 2015 at 2:39 pm

    Mnemosyne- he can be what he want. I just demand he admit his black railroad executive privilege. He can be liberal (course we are just stereotyping that he is a liberal cause we really don’t know). In fact I bet he gave the food he refused to eat to a homeless person just to prove it!

  74. 74.

    trollhattan

    November 11, 2015 at 2:41 pm

    @Snarkworth:
    Maybe this is the opening Hyperloop has been waiting for.

  75. 75.

    trollhattan

    November 11, 2015 at 2:42 pm

    @A guy:
    I dub thee Gumby.

  76. 76.

    ThresherK

    November 11, 2015 at 2:43 pm

    PS This snippet from Frisky Dingo is always in the conversation of crazy things people may forget are crazy.

    Man on TV: Immigration–why not have a massive pedestrian overpass to Canada?

    Xander: Man, I was gonna do a pedestrian overpass to Canada. I was gonna call it the *pic span.

    (*This is the expurgated version.)

  77. 77.

    Germy Shoemangler

    November 11, 2015 at 2:45 pm

    The corporatocracy commands you to love your country
    Tom the Dancing Bug

  78. 78.

    Goblue72

    November 11, 2015 at 2:47 pm

    Trump ain’t gonna be the nominee. Nor Carson. We aren’t even in the serious part of the primary season yet. Most voters are focused on Turkey and Xmas shopping right now. First handful of primaries aren’t until February. The real calendar doesn’t start till March.

    Right now, we are just in a holding pattern until the kiddie table also rans get around to dropping out.

  79. 79.

    Germy Shoemangler

    November 11, 2015 at 2:47 pm

    @srv:

    By the swelling tax base as Americans go back to work.

    In low wage jobs, of course. We workers need to be globally competitive.

  80. 80.

    A guy

    November 11, 2015 at 2:51 pm

    I’m Gumby dammit!

  81. 81.

    Eric U.

    November 11, 2015 at 2:51 pm

    the DepoForce(TM) will not have to be yuooooge, because it will rely on snitches. Oh wait, the snitches will overload the system calling in their neighbors.

  82. 82.

    tsquared2001

    November 11, 2015 at 2:52 pm

    @WereBear: That would be dope. Would it work? I’m not sure if our failed media experiment has a shame switch that can actually be flipped.

    I tweet at Chris Hayes most evenings & they had a segment on Monday where the gist was that this insane election season is really the voters fault. Voters have asked for it and they are gonna get it good and hard. The press’ hands are clean. Do we not teach the responsibility of a free press in this country anymore? Been a while since I’ve been in school but things can’t have changed that much.

  83. 83.

    Germy Shoemangler

    November 11, 2015 at 2:52 pm

    Gumby

  84. 84.

    Origuy

    November 11, 2015 at 2:53 pm

    A song about an undocumented Irish immigrant: The Back Door by Cherish The Ladies with Cathie Ryan

  85. 85.

    tsquared2001

    November 11, 2015 at 2:54 pm

    @A guy: Black railroad executive privilege is my new band name.

  86. 86.

    schrodinger's cat

    November 11, 2015 at 2:54 pm

    @NorthLeft12: Well if we follow the Republican Plan for “prosperity” and go back to the gold standard, not many will want to come here anyway.

  87. 87.

    gex

    November 11, 2015 at 2:54 pm

    @tsquared2001: well, I think getting rid of the whole media consolidation thing was our signal that this is a business, like any other. let it get dominated by a few corporations and let it drown out other voices and perspectives. Better yet, let’s go all in on the infotainment model. Why should a news department be a loss leader when it can be TMZ for ugly people?

  88. 88.

    boatboy_srq

    November 11, 2015 at 2:55 pm

    @trollhattan: Never been to Chicago or San Francisco, have you?

  89. 89.

    boatboy_srq

    November 11, 2015 at 2:56 pm

    @Pogonip: Why hire the thugs, when there are plenty of angry militiamen who’ll pay for the letters of marque commissions?

  90. 90.

    Betty Cracker

    November 11, 2015 at 2:57 pm

    @max: I haven’t been so naïve as to believe that. I just figured the money people who actually run things want to win and would eventually rain brimstone on the obvious losers so they’ll go away. It has always been thus. But maybe not this year.

  91. 91.

    Germy Shoemangler

    November 11, 2015 at 2:59 pm

    @boatboy_srq: A few years back Carl Paladino ran for NY governor:

    NEW YORK (AP) — Republican candidate for governor Carl Paladino said he would transform some New York prisons into dormitories for welfare recipients, where they would work in state-sponsored jobs, get employment training and take lessons in “personal hygiene.”

    Asked at the meeting how he would achieve those savings, Paladino laid out several plans that included converting underused state prisons into centers that would house welfare recipients. There, they would do work for the state – “military service, in some cases park service, in other cases public works service,” he said – while prison guards would be retrained to work as counselors.

    “Instead of handing out the welfare checks, we’ll teach people how to earn their check. We’ll teach them personal hygiene … the personal things they don’t get when they come from dysfunctional homes,” Paladino said.

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    Germy Shoemangler

    November 11, 2015 at 3:02 pm

    @schrodinger’s cat:

    Well if we follow the Republican Plan for “prosperity” and go back to the gold standard, not many will want to come here anyway.

    Problem solved! Who said republicans can’t govern?

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    tsquared2001

    November 11, 2015 at 3:08 pm

    @gex: That was EAXCTLY Katrina Vanden Heuvel’s point during that segment – that the line between policy and entertainment has been obliterated.

    I just wish that the media would acknowledge that panem et circenses is all we are gonna get from now fucking on. Own your dickishness, MSM, own IT!

  94. 94.

    Germy Shoemangler

    November 11, 2015 at 3:08 pm

    House Bill HR1737 will create penalties for auto-lenders who substantially overcharge black and latino customers through gouging on dealer markups.

    Lenders don’t dispute that this practice goes on, but they quibble with the methodology used to calculate the extent of the problem. The House GOP caucus has announced its intention to kill this bill.

    As Cathy O’Neil points out, this isn’t because the GOP wants to defend racism: rather, they want to ensure that financial institutions aren’t compelled to deal with the public in a transparent and accountable manner, which would be the main impact of this bill. As is often the case, the reactionary right isn’t pro-racism, it’s just depraved in its indifference to the racist outcomes of being pro-crony-capitalism.

    From BoingBoing

  95. 95.

    Mnemosyne (iPhone)

    November 11, 2015 at 3:09 pm

    @A guy:

    Maybe you should ask the surgeon whose hands were permanently damaged by LAPD if his money protected him from racism. Or the tennis player who was tackled by an undercover NYPD officer. Or the basketball player whose leg was broken by NYPD, was completely exonerated in court because they had video showing the NYPD was lying, and is now suing.

    Ask all of those people if having money magically protected them from racism. They may be able to answer you after they stop laughing at your idiocy, but it’ll take a while.

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    LevelB

    November 11, 2015 at 3:11 pm

    Maybe if we call the deportation force “Jade Helm” our friends on the right might hear what we are saying…

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    tsquared2001

    November 11, 2015 at 3:16 pm

    @Mnemosyne (iPhone): FIRST comes the throat punch, THEN comes the laughter.

    There IS a system to be followed

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    tsquared2001

    November 11, 2015 at 3:23 pm

    @Germy Shoemangler: “As is often the case, the reactionary right isn’t pro-racism, it’s just depraved in its indifference to the racist outcomes of being pro-crony-capitalism.”

    I am afraid I am going to have to disagree with Cathy O’Neil most vociferously. Talk about putting the cart before the horse. The whole point is racism – crony capitalism is just the side benefit.

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    Germy Shoemangler

    November 11, 2015 at 3:24 pm

    @tsquared2001:

    The whole point is racism – crony capitalism is just the side benefit.

    I agree.

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    A guy

    November 11, 2015 at 3:33 pm

    Mnemosyne- I’m not talking bout those folks. And I’m not saying railroad kid hasn’t experienced some negative comments from others bout his color. I just want him to admit his privilege

  101. 101.

    Matt McIrvin

    November 11, 2015 at 3:34 pm

    @A guy: Jimmy Carter? Dude, Barack Obama has vastly stepped up border enforcement. (And immigration from Mexico is close to nil these days; what we’re seeing now is mostly immigration from Central America through Mexico, but overall rates are way down from the 1990s and early 2000s.)

    It doesn’t matter to the Republicans; what they’re talking about is not reality, it’s a paranoid fantasy of Obama somehow opening the borders to a wave of malign foreigners.

  102. 102.

    tsquared2001

    November 11, 2015 at 3:36 pm

    @Germy Shoemangler: A bit shocked to see Minnesota representatives Paulsen and Emmer are co-sponsors of House Bill HR1737 and NOT my guy Keith Ellison.

    Off to the email machine.

  103. 103.

    tsquared2001

    November 11, 2015 at 3:48 pm

    @A guy: You have upped your troll game to the stratosphere. Yes, despite being called every racist term in the book, black railroad executive kid needs to acknowledge HIS privilege.

    I am giggling SO hard right now.

  104. 104.

    gene108

    November 11, 2015 at 3:57 pm

    @I’mNotSureWhoIWantToBeYet:

    We’d have a much better informed public, and a more sensible civic dialog, if the press would actually do its job.

    I think a lot of the public just does not want to be informed. It’s that simple. They have no problem, with the poor and the oppressed, as long as it is not them.

  105. 105.

    Kenneth Fair

    November 11, 2015 at 4:03 pm

    @I’mNotSureWhoIWantToBeYet: I love the folks who say we should build a wall. The US-Mexico border is 1900 miles long. Over 1200 miles of that length is the Texas-Mexico border, which is the Rio Grande River. How are you going to build a wall on a river? And if you build it next to the river, what are you going to do when the river floods, as it does from time to time?

    This is just gargantuanly ignorant rhetoric.

  106. 106.

    HRA

    November 11, 2015 at 4:10 pm

    My first attempt to “join the discussion” went into Retool and never came back. Take 2.

    Unbelievable! I am sure a Black person will be spared from racial slurs by shouting “I am privileged.”

  107. 107.

    I'mNotSureWhoIWantToBeYet

    November 11, 2015 at 4:11 pm

    @Kenneth Fair: Not only that, but they’ve actually already built a fence/wall along parts of it. It doesn’t work so well…:

    A decades-old treaty with Mexico prohibits building in the Rio Grande floodplain, forcing the US government to build its border fence more than a mile north of the river, effectively cutting into thousands of acres of property owned by Americans.

    Depending on where you live, you could end up on the “Mexican” side of the border, even though you are still in the US. Many Texans had their property split in half by the fence or, worse, seized by the government.

    USA USA USA!!11

    :-/

    Cheers,
    Scott.

  108. 108.

    tsquared2001

    November 11, 2015 at 4:26 pm

    @HRA: It DEFINITELY works. Just ask any lynched motherfucker.

    Wait.

  109. 109.

    Mnemosyne (iPhone)

    November 11, 2015 at 4:35 pm

    @A guy:

    Look, we realize you’re upset to discover that some black people make more money than you, but you’re going to have to put on your big boy pants and realize they don’t owe you jack shit n

  110. 110.

    A guy

    November 11, 2015 at 4:38 pm

    Rich railroad kid joined the hoax. The hoax furthered yesterday by the student body president tweeting out to stay inside cause the kkk was running wild on campus. A tweet he has deleted and apologized for, likely to avoid criminal charges for trying to start a riot. Hell I bet rich railroad kid sneaked a snickers or ramen noodle soup in on his hunger strike.

  111. 111.

    Bill Arnold

    November 11, 2015 at 5:12 pm

    @schrodinger’s cat:

    Actually there are, in NYC mostly, about 100,000 or so Irish.

    I have a co-worker who lives in a town in the Bronx called Woodlawn, where there are a lot of Irish undocumented immigrants, mostly people who overstayed their visas.
    I lived in Putnam County NY for a while, and there were a lot of Polish undocumented immigrants (*). Heard stories occasionally of raids, where (Northern European) white people (men) would be running through the woods to elude capture. There were also plenty of undocumented Mexicans and Central Americans but they were more obvious due to complexion.
    (*) Mostly carpenters.

  112. 112.

    Villago Delenda Est

    November 11, 2015 at 5:18 pm

    @Pogonip: The logistics of mass deportations, even if not done in a humane fashion, are formidable. As is the notion of mass confiscation of firearms. Both are physical impossibilities unless your willing to spend billions to pull them off. This is where both GOP notions of “what needs to be done” and “what Obama is going to do” are utterly ludicrous, but that doesn’t deter the scum who believe both are possible.

  113. 113.

    PurpleGirl

    November 11, 2015 at 5:37 pm

    @Germy Shoemangler: I really didn’t like Andrew Cuomo but there was no way I would vote for Paladino, no way in hell.

  114. 114.

    Shana

    November 11, 2015 at 5:38 pm

    @Mnemosyne (iPhone): Holy crap! You love Hamilton and PG Wodehouse? You are definitely my new best friend. I threw out may back a couple of weeks ago (all better now) so I couldn’t go to Seattle for the every other year Wodehouse Society convention. It’s the first one I’ve missed in close to 20 years. Very bummed.

    ETA: 2017 convention is in DC. I’ll be helping to put it together.

  115. 115.

    Matt

    November 11, 2015 at 5:40 pm

    The part that *really* gets the fundies’ pants tight is imagining what they can do with that “deportation force” once the main job is done. Nothing as handy as a pre-vetted battalion of millions of conservative bully-boys when you want to form your own “Committee for the Promotion of Virtue and the Prevention of Vice” to hammer-smash everybody who isn’t fearing Jeebus enough.

  116. 116.

    PurpleGirl

    November 11, 2015 at 5:46 pm

    @Bill Arnold: The Greenpoint section of Brooklyn has a largely Polish population and many are people who have overstayed their visas.

    ETA: The Polish Pope (spacing his name right now) even made a visit to one of the main RC churches there.

  117. 117.

    Heliopause

    November 11, 2015 at 6:00 pm

    @Pogonip:

    History shows us that deporting 11 million people spread over a large continent is certainly logistically possible, and the US certainly has the resources to accomplish it if the political will exists. Luckily, the political will does not exist (I think). In the highly unlikely event of a Trump victory next November, though, I’ll re-evaluate.

  118. 118.

    Villago Delenda Est

    November 11, 2015 at 6:01 pm

    @PurpleGirl: John Paul II, born Karol Józef Wojtyła. Wikipedia can be your friend.

  119. 119.

    Prescott Cactus

    November 11, 2015 at 10:54 pm

    Noooooooooooobody expects the Spanish Deportation ! ! !

    M. Python

  120. 120.

    Paul in KY

    November 12, 2015 at 9:36 am

    And this force will have classy black uniforms, with twins ‘Ts’ on the collar, sorta shaped like lightning bolts…

  121. 121.

    Paul in KY

    November 12, 2015 at 9:39 am

    @schrodinger’s cat: Thanks for link. Glad to see that election outcome.

  122. 122.

    Paul in KY

    November 12, 2015 at 9:41 am

    @Baud: Should have known you’d be all over this! Baud 2016!

  123. 123.

    Paul in KY

    November 12, 2015 at 9:55 am

    @Snarkworth: They will be resettled in the East….

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