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Saturday Morning Open Thread

by Betty Cracker|  November 14, 201510:01 am| 106 Comments

This post is in: Domestic Politics, Open Threads

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The frog pictured above visited us at our tiki bar the other night. Unlike its fellows who have stopped by in the past, this frog was chill and did not fling itself at our heads or land in our cocktails, for which we were grateful. It looks kinda stoned. Maybe it was out licking toads.

It’s a gorgeous day here — there’s finally a touch of fall in the air. Last night it plunged into the 60s, and I had to find a throw to ward off the chill. It’s supposed to get into the 80s this afternoon, though. Gonna watch some college football later (Go Gators!) and cook something, but I haven’t decided what. You?

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  1. 1.

    PaulW

    November 14, 2015 at 10:08 am

    Rooting for the Gators as an alum, and rooting for the Bulls as a grad alum.

    If USF beats Temple it’ll be the first time we’ve beaten a ranked team in years, not since the heady days of being in the Big East.

    The school has been trying to stir up the Tampa Bay community and its alumni into turning out big for tongiht’s home game – attendance has been pitiful due to the collapse under Skippy Holtz and Taggart’s first two years – because this is an evening game and we need to build up fan support for conference games. If this were a ranked matchup against West Virginia or Pittsburgh or Louisville, this wouldn’t be a problem. But we don’t have any animosity towards Temple yet. :/

  2. 2.

    Betty Cracker

    November 14, 2015 at 10:14 am

    @PaulW: I’m trying to talk my daughter — a USF student to be! — into going to the game! The Owls are surprisingly good this year, aren’t they?

  3. 3.

    OzarkHillbilly

    November 14, 2015 at 10:27 am

    @Betty Cracker: 60 degrees is a warm day here. I’m not getting the pic, probably my fault. My computer hates me.

  4. 4.

    OzarkHillbilly

    November 14, 2015 at 10:32 am

    As to what I’m doing today, I’m working on the ceiling of my front porch. It would be nice if I could get the majority of it done and have only details to work on tomorrow and the next day, but there is some joinery to be done and that takes time.

    Spent the last hour perusing Cabin Porn to help inspire me this morn.

  5. 5.

    PaulW

    November 14, 2015 at 10:34 am

    @Betty Cracker:

    It’s nice to see the American conference have a lot of solid teams this year. Temple IS surprisingly good (I had figured Cincy would have been the potential East winner) and it’s amazing what we’re seeing out of the West division teams like Memphis and even Navy. I had figured Houston to be the West leader, but if Memphis beats them… it’ll suck for the conference because then we’ll be losing our last unbeaten team and any hope of a playoff (yes, it’s slim but it’s there).

    The best part is that UCF has fallen apart. I hope the Bulls are up for ending their season winless, that would be a delicious touch.

    Unfortuately for me I have to work today, and I have commitments for NaNoWriMo tonight. But I will be rooting to hear “FIRST DOWN, BULLS” early and often over the Internet livestream…

  6. 6.

    raven

    November 14, 2015 at 10:34 am

    Gumbo. The Gators will get killed by Bama. Rotsa Ruck.

  7. 7.

    benw

    November 14, 2015 at 10:36 am

    Second week in a row with no pigskin rooting interest (amateurs played on Thursday, professionals have a bye). Playing Pokemon with my kids.

  8. 8.

    rikyrah

    November 14, 2015 at 10:39 am

    Good Morning, Everyone.

    Off to swim and take Peanut to a party.

  9. 9.

    greennotGreen

    November 14, 2015 at 10:40 am

    Painting. For the next two weeks if you ask me what I’m doing, it’s going to be painting. The builders will be putting in the tile floors upstairs while I paint the walls in the downstairs that has concrete floors. My sister was going to be helping me, but she has to tend my nephew who’s on IV antibiotics so he can be healthy enough to participate in a drug trial for his cystic fibrosis. Really puts the annoyance of endless painting in perspective, doesn’t it?

  10. 10.

    PaulW

    November 14, 2015 at 10:41 am

    Betty, I was there for the biggest game USF had, the home stand against West Virginia when they were #4 in the rankings and we had just come off a lucky win over ranked Auburn, and it was packed, the upper deck seats were half-full (most other games the upper decks were barely opened), and I swear to God the entire Ray Jay shook like an earthquake when Moffitt snagged that interception and ran it in for a Pick 6.

    My parents were there with me: Mom is a PhD alum with USF but she’s a pure War Eagle, and she went to Auburn games back in college and she knows all about packed and rocking stadiums and she noted it was just like the good old days.

    South Florida was so close to busting into the upper echelon of the Big Three in Florida – Noles, Gators, Canes – but Levitt just couldn’t get wins in November and blew up his own ego… and God help us getting Skip proved to be a disaster. Taggart’s had to struggle with the lack of recruits his first two years but this third year looks better and one hopes we get to a minor bowl game just to have something for postseason once more…

  11. 11.

    rikyrah

    November 14, 2015 at 10:43 am

    Would More Dinner and Golf Solve Washington’s Problems? Ray LaHood Thinks So
    NOVEMBER 14, 2015 5:03 AM ET

    excerpt:
    This line of thinking frustrates Dartmouth political scientist Brendan Nyhan, who has written extensively about what he calls “a totemic obsession” that many Washington leaders have with the idea of bipartisanship.

    Nyhan even has a theory for the wine-and-dine bipartisan outreach approach that LaHood argues for: The Green Lantern Theory of the Presidency.

    “The idea that if the president only tried hard enough, he can get whatever it is he wants. It’s based on the powers of a comic book hero,” Nyhan explains. “If he only tried harder, if he only reached out more, if he only did this, that, or the other thing to appeal to Republicans, they would eventually fall at his feet and agree to his requests. There’s just very little evidence to suggest that’s the case.”

    http://www.npr.org/2015/11/14/455908128/would-more-dinner-and-golf-solve-washingtons-problems-ray-lahood-thinks-so

  12. 12.

    schrodinger's cat

    November 14, 2015 at 10:43 am

    [email protected]
    Did you kiss the frog?
    BTW the site is borked in the mobile version
    Bonus : Caturday Kitteh

  13. 13.

    Betty Cracker

    November 14, 2015 at 10:49 am

    @raven: Nah, they’re playing the Gamecocks! They could still lose — hell, I thought Vandy was gonna beat us last weekend. But it won’t be a ‘Bama beat-down.

  14. 14.

    Amir Khalid

    November 14, 2015 at 10:52 am

    Frog? I can’t see any picture of a frog.

  15. 15.

    HinTN

    November 14, 2015 at 10:52 am

    @schrodinger’s cat: My (Android) mobile borkage got fixed yesterday. It seems to be a rolling set of problems.

    Last day at da beach today and Betty’s cold front is really settled in here in the Redneck Rivera

  16. 16.

    schrodinger's cat

    November 14, 2015 at 10:53 am

    @Amir Khalid: Its a tiny frog.

  17. 17.

    HinTN

    November 14, 2015 at 10:54 am

    @schrodinger’s cat: But visible, nonetheless.

  18. 18.

    Omnes Omnibus

    November 14, 2015 at 10:55 am

    @HinTN: Nope.

  19. 19.

    Betty Cracker

    November 14, 2015 at 10:55 am

    @Amir Khalid & @OzarkHillbilly: Gah! Stupid blog template! Here it is:

    Night of the Frogs

  20. 20.

    Omnes Omnibus

    November 14, 2015 at 10:57 am

    Now I see it.

  21. 21.

    MattF

    November 14, 2015 at 10:59 am

    Seeing an old friend this evening. Tried to make a dinner reservation at a nearby new restaurant, but couldn’t– they offered reservations for off-peak hours, but not for prime meal times. How does that make sense?

  22. 22.

    Betty Cracker

    November 14, 2015 at 11:01 am

    @schrodinger’s cat: It’s not a particularly small frog — it’s about two-and-a-half or three inches long.

  23. 23.

    Zippity

    November 14, 2015 at 11:05 am

    Since it’s an open thread…site question-not a complaint! I’m viewing the site on my iPhone using 9.1, and the majority of the time it comes up with the old version. It was the new version earlier today, but now back to the old one. Any ideas as to what I’m doing wrong?

  24. 24.

    Omnes Omnibus

    November 14, 2015 at 11:07 am

    @MattF: It’s already booked up at the prime meal times?

  25. 25.

    Amir Khalid

    November 14, 2015 at 11:09 am

    Weird. I hit Reply on Betty’s comment with the frog picture; I got kicked to a new post with no text, but with pictures of the Balloon Guy and the frog. We may need to pray to Mr God Mode to have a look at that.

  26. 26.

    Corner Stone

    November 14, 2015 at 11:10 am

    God, no. No James Woolsey, please. Make it stop.

  27. 27.

    MattF

    November 14, 2015 at 11:11 am

    @Omnes Omnibus: No, it’s no reservations/bookings taken at all for meals during prime hours. Weird.

  28. 28.

    rikyrah

    November 14, 2015 at 11:11 am

    U.S. Political Reaction To Paris Attacks Split Along Party Lines
    NOVEMBER 14, 2015 12:17 AM ET

    In the wake of controversy of any kind, even terrorist attacks, U.S. politics is never far behind. The American political response- — from President Obama to the candidates vying to replace him — in the hours following the Paris attacks has been unsurprisingly split along party lines.

    What is interesting, however, is that Democrats, who are set to debate Saturday night, have kept their responses generally to thoughts and prayers — with little in the way of policy prescriptions.

    That’s understandable, given that a Democrat currently controls the White House and the candidates wouldn’t want to appear to undermine the current president of their own party, especially on matters of foreign affairs. But they will be pressed on foreign policy and national security as a result of the attacks at the outset of Saturday night’s debate, according to a source with knowledge of debate preparations.

    Republicans, on the other hand, are issuing lots of policy specifics and ratcheting up rhetoric, intimating that what’s being done — and been done in the past seven years by President Obama — to keep the country safe is not enough. They are calling for increased U.S. footprint in the Middle East, including “boots on the ground,” a halting of plans to increase the numbers of Syrian refugees to the U.S., and an increase in the role of the National Security Agency in surveillance and intelligence-gathering capabilities.

    http://www.npr.org/2015/11/14/455976394/u-s-political-reaction-to-paris-attacks-split-along-party-lines

  29. 29.

    lamh36

    November 14, 2015 at 11:11 am

    Good morning BJ.

    I must have missed that election…when did Barack Obama become the President of France?

    same folk who said Obama had no influence overseas, now saying it’s his influence to blame for this Paris attack…really…really…

  30. 30.

    Corner Stone

    November 14, 2015 at 11:12 am

    Frog just wants to chill. Doesn’t want to be shouted at by shouty Balloon Man. That’s not right.

  31. 31.

    Mnemosyne (tablet)

    November 14, 2015 at 11:13 am

    Gotta get my hair colored this morning. It’s very annoying that I inherited my mother’s hair genes and am well on track to be completely gray before I turn 50.

  32. 32.

    lamh36

    November 14, 2015 at 11:14 am

    BTW, anyone else think, this whole “Syrian passport” found on one of the attackers sure seems very convenient

    ‏@Reuters 1m1 minute ago
    BREAKING: Holder of Syrian passport found at scene of Paris attack passed through Greece in October: Greek officials

  33. 33.

    p.a.

    November 14, 2015 at 11:14 am

    Wow. Android phone, desktop version and this is the first time I’ve ever seen the comments’ numbers.

  34. 34.

    Betty Cracker

    November 14, 2015 at 11:16 am

    @Amir Khalid: That’s my fault. I took a backroom short cut to post that picture in comments.

  35. 35.

    OzarkHillbilly

    November 14, 2015 at 11:16 am

    @greennotGreen: I had a cousin die from CF. When my oldest was 2 they thought he had it. Tested him 3 times before they finally decided he didn’t. I had a lot of nightmares during that time. My sympathies to your sis and you.

  36. 36.

    MattF

    November 14, 2015 at 11:16 am

    @lamh36: Y’see… it’s not his ‘influence’, which would be a good thing– except that it doesn’t exist, it’s his ‘Obama-ness’, which is a bad thing and is pervasive– experienced by everyone, everywhere, all the time.

  37. 37.

    lamh36

    November 14, 2015 at 11:17 am

    Yeah I just bet he did try…douche.

    ‏@Variety 18s19 seconds ago
    Rob Lowe attempted to clarify his comments about France

  38. 38.

    Benw

    November 14, 2015 at 11:19 am

    @MattF: some restaurants want to generate a feeling of hipness and exclusivity so they make it hard to get a table during prime hours. Lines of folks waiting hours to get in make it look like a super popular joint. Some nightclubs will run under capacity to make sure they always have a line outside for the same reason.

  39. 39.

    Omnes Omnibus

    November 14, 2015 at 11:19 am

    FXM is currently showing “Modesty Blaise” to be followed by “How to Steal a Million.”

  40. 40.

    Corner Stone

    November 14, 2015 at 11:20 am

    Oh God oh God oh God. John Kerry is speaking French in Vienna.

  41. 41.

    hoodie

    November 14, 2015 at 11:20 am

    @lamh36: Oh, it will get worse. Just now watching MSNBC and they have that hack Jim Woolsey who launches into some lunatic theory about sanctuary cities. These fucking people are unbelievable, and the media’s willingness to give these assholes a stage is just as bad. And, for the umpteenth time, Eaglesof Death Metal is not a heavy metal band.

  42. 42.

    Scratch

    November 14, 2015 at 11:22 am

    I’ll tell ya this. I wait until after I run before I take a pain pill for the thumb that got broken on Wednesday, and that first one of the day hits kind of hard, but in that pleasant dopey way of becoming very relaxed.

    I was horrified to hear of the news from France last night. Two things made me cry this week, from the two polar ends of humanity. Last night’s horrors made me cry.

    But the generosity of all those who gave money to help find a cure for type 1 made me cry in a good way.

    That Mess Known as Humanity

  43. 43.

    Omnes Omnibus

    November 14, 2015 at 11:22 am

    @hoodie:

    Eaglesof Death Metal is not a heavy metal band.

    Look, mate, they have the word metal right in their name.

    /msm

  44. 44.

    D58826

    November 14, 2015 at 11:24 am

    @Corner Stone: i was about to make the same comment. According to Woolsey we have to stop such silly policies as sanctuary cities since that helps the terrorists. We should not have traded the 5 terrorists for the soldier, never mind they were Afghans and 5 terrorists more or less isn’t going to make much difference. We have to fight them here or we will be fighting them here so American boots on the ground (and that rational is the same one that we used in 1964 to get bogged down in Vietnam). Obvious he did not learn the lesson from Iraq which is that is exactly what ISIS/AL Qaeda want the US to do. It justifies their ideology in fighting the Crusaders.

    The neocons still have not figured out that we can’t kill the terrorists fast enough to make a difference. It doesn’t mean that a military response should be always ruled out just that there is no long term military solution. It also means that the solution has to lie within these societies. The US can not solve the social problem of Syria or Iraq or Libya, etc.

  45. 45.

    Corner Stone

    November 14, 2015 at 11:24 am

    @hoodie:

    Just now watching MSNBC and they have that hack Jim Woolsey who launches into some lunatic theory about sanctuary cities

    He also said para “we have to kill the embryonic caliphate”.
    The man is flat out insane and has been publicly acknowledged as off the deep end for well over a decade. How MSNBC, or any network outside Fox, could possibly put him on at this time is flat fucking outrageous.

  46. 46.

    MattF

    November 14, 2015 at 11:25 am

    @Benw: Hmm. That’ll work until the first negative reviews come in.

  47. 47.

    p.a.

    November 14, 2015 at 11:26 am

    @Corner Stone:

    John Kerry is speaking French in Vienna.

    While windsurfing?

    Hell, Obama has been trolling the wingnuts for months, let Kerry do it too.

  48. 48.

    JMG

    November 14, 2015 at 11:28 am

    Cable news has a vested interest in war and catastrophe. It’s the only time anybody watches it.

  49. 49.

    MattF

    November 14, 2015 at 11:28 am

    @Corner Stone: “…kill the embryonic caliphate” and replace it with what? They always leave out that bit of the plan.

  50. 50.

    Corner Stone

    November 14, 2015 at 11:28 am

    I contend that if you have a meeting with 50+ representatives of various nations/entities then you actually haven’t met with anyone at all. And had already decided what you were going to do.

  51. 51.

    Omnes Omnibus

    November 14, 2015 at 11:29 am

    @p.a.:

    Hell, Obama has been trolling the wingnuts for months, let Kerry do it too.

    I doubt Kerry is doing it to troll wingnuts.

  52. 52.

    Elizabelle

    November 14, 2015 at 11:30 am

    @hoodie: I think I might start getting all my news from France 24.

    Merci bien.

    You’ve told us. Now tell MSNBC. That you will turn off their channel if they persist in foisting Woolsey on their audience.

    Not kidding about NBC being p o r n for defense contractors.

  53. 53.

    raven

    November 14, 2015 at 11:31 am

    @Betty Cracker: I know who they are playing today.

  54. 54.

    Corner Stone

    November 14, 2015 at 11:31 am

    @MattF: To let it hang out there that there is any form of caliphate is to buy in to a radicalized, paranoid, insane worldview. The man should be in a padded room wearing a lot of white.

  55. 55.

    ruemara

    November 14, 2015 at 11:34 am

    Sitting here watching my laptop twirl as I try to buy Comic-Con tickets. Terrible timing on their part, I haven’t gotten paid yet. Not enough moulah for all the days I’d want but enough to ensure I get at least 2. I hope. Did a shoot yesterday, so hopefully they’re happy and I’ll get paid from that.

    After this, today will be finding some scrounge for eggs, coming back home, and working on edits to the trailer, writing the pitch, maybe filming, sending out another job application and maybe cleaning the house a bit. Without me, the roommate has no idea that toilets need cleaning and when she drops rice and pasta on the floor, fairies don’t remove it while singing. Funny, that. Maybe watch this football thing, but more likely to watch Doctor Who.

  56. 56.

    p.a.

    November 14, 2015 at 11:36 am

    @Omnes Omnibus: no, but it is a nice bonus.

  57. 57.

    Rob

    November 14, 2015 at 11:37 am

    @p.a.: @p.a.#31:

    The numbers are new for me too, Safari on a MacBook Pro.

    I’ve just gotten out of a condo board meeting and ate some lunch. A walk or drive in the partly sunny breezes is next for me, looking at nature instead of at news.

    @Betty, I love the frog picture. It’s too cold for frogs for me until next spring.

  58. 58.

    Hal

    November 14, 2015 at 11:47 am

    Had one friend on Facebook right out of the gate blaming Obama with a bunch of other would be Emperor Palpitines agreeing with him and calling on the U.S. to wipe out ISIS. Because it really is that simple and effective.

  59. 59.

    HinTN

    November 14, 2015 at 11:49 am

    On this Android mobile I saw what I took to be the new site design but that read rapidly supplanted by the traditional presentation, which still has no comment numbers. But hey, I’m happy to be able to view all y’alls un-numbered conversation.

  60. 60.

    NotMax

    November 14, 2015 at 11:53 am

    and cook something, but I haven’t decided what. You?

    You could try (the dry rub part might be fun) but don’t think you’d enjoy the end product – kind of chewy and tough.

    ;)

  61. 61.

    D58826

    November 14, 2015 at 11:54 am

    It’s true that MSNBC should not ever have Woolsey on again but they have had a number of interesting guests on this morning. One security expert just said that the lesson we have to learn is that there are millions of people from Morocco to Indonesia who hate their governments, with just cause, and these folks are not going to accept American/Western leadership in their lives. They might not be ready to shoot up a theater but they view the West as the problem and not the solution.

  62. 62.

    a hip hop artist from Idaho (fka Bella Q)

    November 14, 2015 at 11:54 am

    @Betty Cracker: I have a frog picture,but I fear killing the thread with a link. I’ll just send her too you. Her name was Wilma and she lived in our wee backyard pond, with scores of fish. I’d named her Fred, but on finding out Fred was a she, her name was changed to Wilma.

  63. 63.

    Omnes Omnibus

    November 14, 2015 at 11:54 am

    Humanity vs Brutality.

  64. 64.

    MattF

    November 14, 2015 at 11:55 am

    @Hal: That’ll work. Buying into ISIS propaganda and pursuing a phantom practically guarantees success.

  65. 65.

    Omnes Omnibus

    November 14, 2015 at 11:55 am

    @a hip hop artist from Idaho (fka Bella Q): Couldn’t Fred be short for Winifred?

    ETA: Not canonically Flintstone, but it avoids confusion for the frog.

  66. 66.

    NotMax

    November 14, 2015 at 11:57 am

    @Omnes Omnibus

    Or Frederica.

  67. 67.

    Germy

    November 14, 2015 at 11:58 am

    a gecko in an AT-AT costume

    This is all I got.

  68. 68.

    srv

    November 14, 2015 at 11:59 am

    I’m wondering how that meeting with an ISIS funder is going to turn out for everyone:

    Work on building the Rafale aircraft for Qatar will not start until the Gulf nation first pays a deposit for the 6.3 billion Euro deal to purchase 24 fighter aircraft including 2 billion Euro worth weapons.

    Various French newspapers reported disquiet in the French government and Dassault over the non-receipt of an unspecified amount as first installment. It is in this context that the proposed visit of the Prime Minister of Qatar, Abdullah bin Nasser bin Khalifa al-Thani, to Paris starting next week assumes significance.

    Poor John, worst time ever to be sick:

    As if to confirm suspicions that the audience for video games and that for pornography overlap quite a bit, a popular adult video site is blaming the release of a new game for a dip in its traffic.

    Pornhub, in a post on its Insights page, said that Fallout 4 was responsible for a 10% drop in the traffic among gamers in the hours after its launch on Nov. 10. The site has about 60 million daily visitors who are interested in gaming, according to its analysis of Google “affinity” data, which uses searches to determine a person’s overall interests.

  69. 69.

    D58826

    November 14, 2015 at 12:03 pm

    OK I think it’s time that we as a nation just pack it in if this is the quality of policy analysis from a contneder for the presidency. From Huffington :

    In Response To Paris, Ted Cruz Calls For Airstrikes With More ‘Tolerance For Civilian Casualties’

    . As a nation do we still not understand that those ‘civilian casualties’ have relatives who will not be so tolerant of the deaths of their relatives at the hands of the US.

  70. 70.

    p.a.

    November 14, 2015 at 12:03 pm

    @D58826:

    The US can not solve the social problem of Syria or Iraq or Libya, etc.

    Whaddaya mean? We’ve done a bang up job fixing our own.

  71. 71.

    Pogonip

    November 14, 2015 at 12:04 pm

    I saw something to the effect that Cole is giving up blogging and turning the site over to someone else? If so, who will take on the critical duty of periodic announcements that ” I hate you all”?

  72. 72.

    a hip hop artist from Idaho (fka Bella Q)

    November 14, 2015 at 12:04 pm

    @Omnes Omnibus: I’m also sure that’s not why he’s doing it. He’s being respectful (and sincere). But it has the added benefit of trolling the wingnuts, which is full of win.

  73. 73.

    Germy

    November 14, 2015 at 12:06 pm

    @Pogonip: good question. Doug! maybe?

  74. 74.

    Amir Khalid

    November 14, 2015 at 12:11 pm

    @Pogonip:
    As far as I know, it was just unfounded speculation (the very best kind!) from a commenter.

  75. 75.

    Elizabelle

    November 14, 2015 at 12:12 pm

    @Pogonip: Did Cole say that? On twitter? A joke, or not?

    @ Betty Cracker:

    re the frog: charming wee lad.

    He’s there to collect his wine foil princess.

  76. 76.

    debbie

    November 14, 2015 at 12:13 pm

    @D58826:

    I knew Cruz had secret dreams of being the next Buck Turgidson!

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HgyjlqhiTV8

    ETA: “Mr. President, I’m not saying we wouldn’t get our hair mussed…”

  77. 77.

    Elizabelle

    November 14, 2015 at 12:14 pm

    @Amir Khalid: That’s reassuring.

    Too captive an audience here he can call a-holes and miscreants. How could Cole give up that power?

    We’re kind of his very own dictator’s balcony.

  78. 78.

    p.a.

    November 14, 2015 at 12:15 pm

    @MattF: @srv:

    As if to confirm suspicions that the audience for video games and that for pornography overlap quite a bit, a popular adult video site is blaming the release of a new game for a dip in its traffic.

    The Venn diagram as 2 stacked circles.

  79. 79.

    Gindy51

    November 14, 2015 at 12:15 pm

    @Betty Cracker: The stoned look is due to the flash. Like us they contract their pupils when too much light is in their faces. Gotta save that night vision for hunting bugs, doncha know….

  80. 80.

    Germy

    November 14, 2015 at 12:17 pm

    @Elizabelle: I like John Cole’s twitter motto:

    I like to lash out at others. Love my dogs and cat. Nothing else seems notable.

  81. 81.

    srv

    November 14, 2015 at 12:20 pm

    @Elizabelle: That worked out great for Pope Benedict.

  82. 82.

    Corner Stone

    November 14, 2015 at 12:21 pm

    @a hip hop artist from Idaho (fka Bella Q):

    but I fear killing the thread with a link.

    There are worse things than killing a thread…unspeakable things…
    ***shutters***

  83. 83.

    Steeplejack

    November 14, 2015 at 12:22 pm

    Just getting going this morning in Las Vegas. Still having some time-change lethargy, and I may be catching my brother’s cold (or I was exposed on the flight out here). I was up at dawn, however (6:15 here), to feed the sighthounds. They are teaching me the household routines. Apparently meals are very important! They have now morphed into couch pandas for their morning nap.

    Got the brother launched on his Patagonian adventure yesterday: Aeroméxico direct from LAS to Mexico City, bit of a layover, then on to Santiago de Chile, where he will be staying tonight. He goes to Pucón, Araucanía, tomorrow, and that’s where the actual cycling begins: 2,200 miles on down to Tierra del Fuego. He showed me where his will and important papers are, so everything’s in order. LOL.

    I’m going to check in with my mother in a bit and see if she wants to get together today. Otherwise I’ll take it easy with the dogs and recharge my batteries.

  84. 84.

    Germy

    November 14, 2015 at 12:23 pm

    John Fugelsang quoted Emerson on twitter:

    All violence, all that is dreary and repels, is not power, but the absence of power.

  85. 85.

    Jim, Foolish Literalist

    November 14, 2015 at 12:25 pm

    Ron Fournier is calling for “national service” so the “we” all have something called “skin in the game”.

    I guess “Let’s send our children to fight this war” is marginally less repugnant than, if just as stupid as, “Let’s send your children to fight this war”.

  86. 86.

    Betty Cracker

    November 14, 2015 at 12:26 pm

    @Pogonip: I’m sure that’s not true, but if it ever came to pass, I’m certain others would willingly step in.

  87. 87.

    Germy

    November 14, 2015 at 12:27 pm

    @Jim, Foolish Literalist:

    Ron Fournier is calling for “national service” so the “we” all have something called “skin in the game”.

    Ron’s job will to write about it all.
    “Keep up the fight” he can say.

  88. 88.

    ruemara

    November 14, 2015 at 12:28 pm

    Yay! She’s happy! And wtf, 55 pics ain’t enough? Booo!! Still sitting in the Comic-Con waiting room with half an hour left before they say that’s all folks.

  89. 89.

    Pogonip

    November 14, 2015 at 12:30 pm

    @Betty Cracker: Well, I’ll certainly do my part: *ahem*. “I hate most of you!”

    (I ain’t taking over the full job without due compensation.)

  90. 90.

    OldDave

    November 14, 2015 at 12:32 pm

    @Betty Cracker:

    a USF student to be!

    Not knocking the school (after all, our daughter earned her masters at USF) but how can a school located in Tampa call itself the “University of SOUTH Florida”? I have to drive 200 miles NORTH just to get anywhere near it. :-)

  91. 91.

    srv

    November 14, 2015 at 12:33 pm

    ECKWERSCHEIM, France (AP) — An official says a high-speed train undergoing a test run has derailed in northeast France, killing at least seven people and gravely injuring 11 others.

    The train burst into flames, split apart and plunged into the Marne au Rhin canal.

    Spokeswoman Viviane Chevallier of the Bas-Rhin region said there were no immediate indications that Saturday’s crash had anything to do with deadly terrorist attacks in Paris a day earlier.

    She said authorities believe the TGV high-speed train carrying 49 people was going too fast, and skipped off the tracks in the town of Eckwerscheim near the German border.

  92. 92.

    p.a.

    November 14, 2015 at 12:38 pm

    @Jim, Foolish Literalist: I never liked to admit it, but the ‘universal 2 year military commitment’ increases diversity and tolerance by widening people’s exposure argument does make some sense. It’s sad that our society can’t do the same, as well as.

    A counterargument being: give a general a weapon and he’ll find a way to use it.

  93. 93.

    Corner Stone

    November 14, 2015 at 12:44 pm

    @Germy:

    Ron’s job will to write about it all.
    “Keep up the fight” he can say.

    Already done, as noted:
    “In one email, Rove asked, “How does our country continue to produce men and women like this?” Fournier responded: “The Lord creates men and women like this all over the world. But only the great and free countries allow them to flourish. Keep up the fight.”

  94. 94.

    Elizabelle

    November 14, 2015 at 12:47 pm

    @p.a.: I like the idea of national service, and allow older than usual peeps to do it too, if they want to.

    And then link lifetime healthcare availability to their national service. I actually agree on the “skin in the game” idea, and shared sacrifice.

  95. 95.

    Corner Stone

    November 14, 2015 at 12:47 pm

    @Pogonip: “CALM DOWN AND QUIT YER BITCHING!” “CAPSLOCK JESUS IS THE COOLEST JESUS!”

    There, done my part also, too.

  96. 96.

    Elizabelle

    November 14, 2015 at 12:48 pm

    @srv: Wow.

    Quand il pleut ….

  97. 97.

    J R in WV

    November 14, 2015 at 12:48 pm

    Invited to old friends nearly neighbors for dinner last night, going out for a big Saturday night, first time in months.

    Dinner at a nice sit-down restaurant, then Symphony with Piano Concerto by Ravel and Rhapsody in Blue by Gershwin. As a sometime, once upon a time pianist, will cry to listen to the beauty. Great music affects my emotions greatly…

    Will no doubt run into friends, it is a small town. Sometimes dear friends, sometimes old acquaintances, all good.

  98. 98.

    Elizabelle

    November 14, 2015 at 12:49 pm

    @J R in WV: Enjoy. Great weekend plans.

  99. 99.

    satby

    November 14, 2015 at 12:54 pm

    @J R in WV: sounds lovely, have a great time.

  100. 100.

    Hal

    November 14, 2015 at 1:01 pm

    @Jim, Foolish Literalist: Can we start with his best bud Dick Cheney?

  101. 101.

    Steeplejack

    November 14, 2015 at 1:19 pm

    @Elizabelle:

    I have watched France 24 off and on for a while (on the MHz Worldview network on my cable system), started watching it a lot recently because their coverage of the Syrian refugees coming to Europe was outstanding. So last night my first thought was to look at their coverage of the Paris attacks.

  102. 102.

    andy

    November 14, 2015 at 1:34 pm

    Armed goons to the one side, tragedy-humping right wingers to the other; now more than ever we need cat gifs, amirite?

    Also, too, that’s a heck of a roomba!

  103. 103.

    Elizabelle

    November 14, 2015 at 1:59 pm

    @Steeplejack: Thank you for introducing me to France 24. Will become a habit. Does not appear in my cable lineup, but the laptop streaming is good.

    Please enjoy some mountain views and desert air for me. Oh — and gin libations. Fer sure.

  104. 104.

    Jim, Foolish Literalist

    November 14, 2015 at 1:59 pm

    @p.a.: The most persuasive argument I know for national service (not necessarily military) is the breaking down of social and regional barriers, but I also know that if it applied to persons of a certain age (mine), I’d be less persuaded. I do think a broader chunk of society serving in the military would make it harder for the Fourniers and the Andrea Mitchells to sell their oh-so-well-nay-nobly!-intentioned interventionism, even among their peers.

  105. 105.

    SiubhanDuinne

    November 14, 2015 at 2:09 pm

    @J R in WV:

    And a short piece by John Adams, and Dvořák’s “New World” Symphony! What a terrific concert! Please post a review when you get home.

  106. 106.

    Steeplejack

    November 14, 2015 at 3:19 pm

    @Elizabelle:

    France 24 is shown in big blocks on the MHz network (also known as Worldview). I’d be very surprised if you don’t have it on your system, because MHz is headquartered in NoVa. I’m on Cox Cable (at home), and the several MHz channels are around 470-476 or so.

    I will definitely enjoy my three weeks in Las Vegas. I love the desert environment, this is a perfect time of year—highs in the 60s, lows in the 40s—and there are great restaurants everywhere. Plus I’ve got dogs to keep me company (a whippet and a greyhound).

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