Someone posted a video from an Australian show, called The Project,on my facebook page. It took me awhile to track down the youtube link, but finally here it is:
I’d like to know what you think and if anyone knows more about this Australian program.
Meanwhile in Virginia:
Three men were arrested and charged in a plot to bomb African American churches. It’s an NBC video so I didn’t want to embed it for fear of making things glitchy. But I find it interesting in all the FEAR, FEAR, DEATH, ISIS is coming for you, that an actual threat on American soil was mostly ignored.
But you know, it was three white dudes, so I guess not as scary.
rikyrah
Chris Rock said it…
I’m not afraid of Al Qeda/ISIS
I’m afraid of Al CRACKA.
I’m afraid of being in the wrong place at the wrong time:
1) some frustrated White guy with guns
2) the wrong cop while I’m Existing While Black
As a Black person in America….
THOSE are my terrorist organizations.
Don’t give two shyts about ISIS.
Poopyman
I’m so old I remember post-9/11, when everyone (aka Bush Admin) was pushing the meme that there were al Qaeda cells in every neighborhood and it was just a matter of time before they’d be activated. Add a liberal application of Terror Level, and there you go.
At least there are adults in charge in this country this time. That leaves the media to do the heavy fear-mongering by themselves, and I’m not sure they’re up to it.
scav
Home-grown attempts to intimidate, threaten and terrorize Muslim Americans isn’t getting blanket coverage either. And the (admittedly dregs-based as from ChiTrib comments) support for dragging vaguely Middle-Eastern people off planes for reading news is full-throated. But, then, watching someone actively engaged in the willing perusal — intake even — of information (possibly even International or Climate related!) would immediately seem threatening to many ‘mercan white christianists.
ant
balloon juice is making me clear out cookies in order see new posts.
Do not like new website.
irritated with website changes here, wonketee, daily kos, and little green footballs.
There was nothing wrong with these websites before the changes.
Luthe
Three white dudes who planned on attacking blacks and Jews. That’s minus at least 100 fear points right there.
Billy Bob in Bumfuck, Kansas (who has only met two Jews and five black folks in his life) only cares when it’s brown folks killing white folks (because those terrorists will be attacking Bumfuck any second now).
dedc79
The competition is admittedly pretty fierce, but I’m nominating Walter Russel Mead’s piece in The American Interest for “Worst Syria Column of the Week.” Here’s a taste:
ruemara
Well, they’re only targeting browns and Jews. Those guys are always whining about “safe spaces” blah blah blah.
Archon
@Poopyman: Selling fear is good for ratings and it happy aligns with the Republican party election season strategy. Obama mocking Republicans as in effect cowards is a good counter to that, but I fear he is much more adept at countering the media narrative and mocking fear mongering of the right then Hillary Clinton is.
Michael Bersin
And, of course, in Missouri the sole Democratic Party candidate (probable – he hasn’t “officially” declared yet) for the open gubernatorial seat in 2016 can’t help himself as he joins the pile of republican gubernatorial candidates wetting their pants about refugees:
Hey, Chris Koster, are you really listening?
Punchy
Isn’t this something you say to someone with the implication that you’ll throw a haymaker in the guy’s mug if he says it in your presence? So Tailgunner Theodore thinks he’s going to drop five on Obama’s jaw if PBO repeats the line standing next to him?
If I were El Baracko, I dont know how I wouldn’t call this man’s bluff.
NorthLeft12
@Luthe: and ruemara too are exactly right. It is their choice of targets that makes these terrorists not as newsworthy or “scary” to the nearly minority of Americans.
p.a.
The ‘better angels of our nature’ have been drowned in a bathtub.
Gin & Tonic
@p.a.: I wonder which “better angels”? In 1919 the Galleanist anarchists set off eight bombs in eight US cities. They weren’t very good at their work, and ended up killing none of their targets, one innocent person, and one of their own. In the aftermath over 10,000 people were arrested, over 3,000 were imprisoned and over 550 legal resident aliens were deported. The resulting “Red Scare” led to the curtailment of civil liberties and many illiberal laws being enacted.
NotMax
“I say I am stronger than fear.”
Malala Yousafzai
“To him who is in fear everything rustles.”
Sophocles
“I must not fear. Fear is the mind-killer. Fear is the little-death that brings total obliteration. I will face my fear. I will permit it to pass over me and through me. And when it has gone past I will turn the inner eye to see its path. Where the fear has gone there will be nothing. Only I will remain.”
Frank Herbert, Dune
“In politics, what begins in fear usually ends in folly.”
Samuel Tayolor Coleridge
“I think it is important to ask ourselves as citizens, not as Democrats attacking the administration, but as citizens, whether a world power can really provide global leadership on the basis of fear and anxiety?”
Zbigniew Brzezinski
“Falsehood is invariably the child of fear in one form or another.”
Aleister Crowley
“A nation that is afraid to let its people judge the truth and falsehood in an open market is a nation that is afraid of its people.”
John F. Kennedy
Germy
@Gin & Tonic: isn’t that how J. edgar hooover got his start?
Betty Cracker
It’s really amusing to see these Republican dickheads freak out over the fact that Obama called them out while overseas. The Erickiest Erick of them all wrote a long, whiny post about it yesterday. Aren’t these the same tender blossoms who said “to hell with politics stopping at the water’s edge” a long time ago?
Do they not regularly make pilgrimages to the so-called Holy Land to disavow current US policy on foreign soil? Did they not invite the leader of a foreign government to Washington DC specifically to criticize the president’s foreign policy initiatives? Fuck those puling toddlers.
JPL
MSM failed us.
JPL
@Betty Cracker: Now Ted Cruz wants the President to insult him to his face.
The Other Chuck
@ant: There was plenty wrong with Balloon Juice. The changes made just haven’t fixed most of it (except for the speed), partly because it’s still FYWP, and partly .. well exhibit A, it still fucking says “DONTATE” up top. LGF changes all the time, the software is custom and the bloghost is a geek who likes to hack on it.
Gin & Tonic
@Germy: Yes.
Betty Cracker
@The Other Chuck:
Not any more, it doesn’t.
Sherparick
On a slightly different note, a sad one, a French police dog died in today’s raid. http://www.cnn.com/2015/11/18/world/police-dog-dies-paris-saint-denis/index.html?eref=rss_topstories
All dogs go to heaven Diesel.
NonyNony
@Betty Cracker:
Is this the post where he said he wasn’t going to go see Star Wars because he was afraid of the theater coming under attack by Moooslim terrarists?
Because holy Grod talk about a) unbridled narcissism and b) an inability to understand risk factors. You’re far more likely to get shot by a crazy white guy in your average American theater showing a sci-fi movie than an ISIS wannabe, and you’re far, far more likely to die in a car crash on your way to the theater than for either of those to happen. What a whiny brat.
gene108
Yeah, but those white guys aren’t going to blow-up white people, so the scared-y-cat white guys in Bumfuck, KY don’t care about them.
Al-Qaeda / ISIL will blow-up white guys (and black guys, and fellow Muslims, but that’s beside the point), so they become a threat.
The inability for conservatives to imagine what things are like, when it does not directly effect them is pathetic.
Princess
And the profiles in courage in the senate join in:
Cowardly Letter from the Senators to the President
If Ayotte and Kirk, two of the most vulnerable senators, are signing this, it is because they think bashing refugees is going to be popular. (or are warding off primaries?)
Paul in KY
Pedantic kudo: Glad you are using ISIL, instead of ISIS. Those murdering weirdo shitstains prefer ISIS.
catclub
@Poopyman: Looking back, it is amazinh how unique and lucky that event was for AlQaeda. Repeating anything like that in the US has never been even remotely approached.
max
@Gin & Tonic: In 1919 the Galleanist anarchists set off eight bombs in eight US cities. They weren’t very good at their work, and ended up killing none of their targets, one innocent person, and one of their own. In the aftermath over 10,000 people were arrested, over 3,000 were imprisoned and over 550 legal resident aliens were deported. The resulting “Red Scare” led to the curtailment of civil liberties and many illiberal laws being enacted.
And Warren Harding put an end to all that and Wilsonianism in general. This did not make him popular.
I’d like to know what you think and if anyone knows more about this Australian program.
I think the dude’s a little worried about backlash, but everything he says is right. Daesh is basically a Muslim end-timer crew, looking to for the end times battle in Syria as (apparently) predicted in Muslim prophecy. Muslim ‘evangelical’ tea bagger types.
Like Ben Carson….Michelle Bachmann, Ted Cruz, etc.) (And also, like those hard nationalist Orthodox Jews looking to retake the Temple Mount and all of the West Bank. They’re beavering away at that right now, thanks to your friend and mine, Bibi!)
So we got us this here collision of end-timers in the Middle East, all looking to fulfill whichever particular prophecy they’re following.
(Let us not forget, BTW, the other secular end-timers who are indirectly involved with this – the Cheneyite ‘We can win a nuclear war with Russians’ crowd, the hard shell followers of the Invisible Hand (the end times come and paradise follows when the government is repealed and
corporationsthe free market rules all – that would be the Kochs), the ultra-orthodox Invisible Hand guys who follow von Mises and proclaim GOOOOOOOOLLLLLLLLLLLDDDDDDDD (that would be the Paulites), and of course, the neo-conservative end timers, who are part Cheneyite and part Jewish nationalist and to a considerable degree, seeking the return of the Golden Age of Victorian England. All those folks helped give us Iraq, and the Iraq occupation.)All that is without getting into the Great Game aspects.
max
[‘Our end-timers want to fight their end-timers, and also play the Great Game at the same time. Whether that’s before or after repealing the government, I cannot say.’]
Zinsky
What amazes me is the way the Pentagon continues to exploit these irrational fears to funnel massive amounts of money to defense contractors who anally rape the American taxpayer by building worthless weapons systems that are useless in fighting a foe like Daesh. For example, nuclear submarines and the F-35 fighter. If conservatives think they are paying too much in taxes (when effective tax rates are near historical lows), they need to cut the Pentagon’s budget by half or more!
NotMax
@The Other Chuck
Yup. Putting fins on a Model T is good for the bottom line of fin makers, but accomplishes scant else.
@Betty Cracker
And far beyond high time, too, after nearly three weeks of the site parading in public with its fly at half mast.
Paul in KY
@rikyrah: Hadn’t heard the Al Craka quip. Good one by Chris! True also, unfortunately.
catclub
@Princess: I am really surprised that the only Democrat coming close to calling this un-American cowardice, is Obama.
Are all the Democrats afraid of being called uncivil. Jay Inslee was the closest to calling them cowards, and he was not very close.
Sherparick
Also, there is the white dude who killed his neighbors and their grandchild in Texas over the weekend. http://www.chron.com/news/houston-texas/texas/article/Six-dead-in-Texas-campsite-attack-man-charged-6636492.php
I am sure he is an upstanding Gunner.
catclub
@Betty Cracker: Did the dontate get moved to the bottom? ;)
Good work.
Betty Cracker
@NonyNony: Nah, it was this one. I guess he’s been shitting his pants a lot lately.
@NotMax: The Typo Fairy was reluctant to take matters into her own hands since she is unschooled in the ways of sysadmin, so she waited patiently. But finally, she said, “Fuck it, let’s do this!”
Southern Beale
Also, the FBI just arrested some guy in Florida who threatened to shoot anyone at Islamic Centers. Lovely country we live in.
I don’t know how Republicans can claim to be so strong and such manly-men when they’re scared of everything. I’ve decided that “Republican” needs to be a synonym for coward.
True story, I dropped the dog off at doggie day care today and told them the pup was “acting like a Republican, he’s scared of everything this morning.” They thought that was hilarious. Let’s make that one stick.
Southern Beale
I just posted something and I guess it got embargoed? It doesn’t say that it did. I hate this new system. It’s eating comments.
NotMax
@Betty Cracker
*genuflects before the Typo Fairy*
leeleeFL
@Germy: FTW! He most merrily did all that and more..his reward we know all too well
Comrade Dread
Your GOP guide to “Is it terrorism?”
If the act was committed by:
White men brandishing guns= No, they’re good patriotic Americans
White men who kill = No, they’re bad apples. Isolated extremists. Mentally ill!
Black men = No, they’re just criminal thugs probably carrying Obama phones and Skittles.
Brown Americans with Spanish names = No, also thugs deserving to be beaten and shot.
Brown non-Americans with Spanish names = Close, but they’re just Cartel members. Build a wall!
Brown people with Mooslim Names = Terrorism!
Women = Only if they’re having an abortion.
shell
I think it was Jeb! who said that there are no Christian terrorists over there. He’s right…theyre all here in America.
Starfish
@Southern Beale: Did it have a bare link?
NonyNony
@Betty Cracker:
Oh no – you’re not gonna fool me. That’s a link to RedState. I’m under doctor’s orders to limit my intake of RedState to once per year at most.
I think Erick is only happy when he’s utterly terrified. He gets that thrill when he’s put a load in his Depends that horror movies and torture porn films just can’t provide. I can’t otherwise explain why he’d rather continue to believe that he’s under some kind of threat from militant Islamic terrorists while living in the Atlanta suburbs when he’s far, far more likely to have a tree fall on his house during a thunderstorm.
leeleeFL
@shell: Poppy Bush needs to do us all a solid and put his own foot in JEB!s mouth. The stoopid is at sooper nova!
catclub
@Southern Beale: Jamelle Bouie has an article up (at Slate) on
“The Long US tradition of fearing immigrants” The GOP celebrates that tradition.
eemom
@Paul in KY:
The correct term now, which they’ll cut people’s tongues out for uttering, is Daesh. I’ve heard that John Kerry uses it.
scav
Those toddlers. Those dangerous dangerous little anchor-dragging scary Toddlers. Little did God-Fearin’ ‘Merka know the dangers they were exposing themselves to when immigrant toddlers, Masked Immigrant Toddlers! CAME TO THEIR HOUSES, their VERY HOUSES! demanding TREATS! or else there would be Tricks (TERRORISM!, allied with SOCIALISM!)
HinTN
Android mobile borked again at FP. Appeared fine moments ago…
NotMax
@leeleeFL
re: Jeb, would that it were possible to file a class action suit against him for public misfeasance as a human being and as a citizen.
Tommy
Most days I don’t lock my front door. I feel that freaking safe. Now I was on the last plane out of DC (National) on 9/10. Used to live in DC on Capital Hill. I get the fear of terror. That is kind of their point, to scare us. I am not scared. Not even worried. Willing to think about 95% of liberals and a large part of even conservatives agree with me on this.
Ajabu
@rikyrah:
Just want to give you a shout out for that one. Y’all Qaida is the one that scares me.
ISIS isn’t coming here but we’re ass deep in rednecks & crackers & peckerwoods. That’s what threatens MY family.
NonyNony
@eemom: Yeah – I keep trying to train myself to call them Daesh, but I keep falling back on ISIS because ISIS just sounds so ludicrous to my ears – like they’re Bond villains or something. And so my brain wants to give them all of the respect they deserve.
Tommy
@Southern Beale: I swear of all the shit I did with this site I didn’t do this. I just made the plugins that did this work correctly. So I guess I did. This site was a cluster fuck on the back end and about the first thing I did was to correct that.
NotMax
@Tommy
Interesting (and totally innocent) typo but then again, after the Citizens United ruling perhaps Capital Hill is a better description.
;)
catclub
@NotMax: The thing Jesus said the most was Fear Not.
well, that and “Verily, I tell thee…” Used the King’s English, too.
catclub
@scav: Those toddlers would rush and overwhelm a gunman at their playschool at the drop of weeble.
Paul in KY
@eemom: DAESH it is then! Thanks!
Hoodie
@Zinsky: Nuclear submarines are actually a fairly cost-effective deterrent that is hard to attack and can dwell on station for very long times. Some of them have been repurposed to serve as lower-cost conventional cruise missile platforms and bases for special operations, which can be of some use against groups like ISIL. They don’t need a complement of fleet protection and supply vessels like aircraft carriers. The F-35 is a complete clusterfuck, however.
Tommy
@NotMax: The “a” vs the “o.”
That is actually a debate …..
I am just sick and tired of folks being worried and/or scared of this or that.
Got this on repeat:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Aa_k-dY_L7c
I was so late to this lady, so late. Read one of her media blitz interviews and she says “fuck” and “cunt” in almost every sentence. I cuss like a drunken sailor in my “real” life so I kind of like her more.
Sherparick
@catclub: Congressman Seth Moulton is giving it to Charlie Baker. Of course in Deep Blue Massachusets.
Interesting about another story that MSM never covers, mostly because the victims are Africans, is Nigerian/Chad/Western Sahara terrorist group Boko Haran, who is likely to get: https://newrepublic.com/minutes/124129/award-deadliest-extremist-group-world-goes-to
dedc79
Rod Dreher thinks Eagles of Death Metal may have called the devil into their Paris concert through their song “Kiss the Devil.” Seriously.
rikyrah
President Obama Not Afraid to Use the Secret Service to Keep Dudes Away From Malia
November 18, 2015
In a new interview with GQ, Dad-in-Chief Barack Obama lamented not getting to spend as much time with his daughters Sasha and Malia now that they’re teenagers, but admitted that he’s not afraid to employ his unique resources when it comes to keeping gross dudes at bay.
Though no guy has been brave enough to risk coming to the White House to pick Malia up for a date, the President said he’s caught some wannabe suitors giving her the up-and-down. “I’ve seen some folks glancing at her in ways that made me not happy,” he admitted. And when that happens, “Just keep an eye on him,” he says he tells the Secret Service.
http://nymag.com/thecut/2015/11/secret-services-watches-guys-interested-in-malia.html?mid=twitter_nymag
Paul in KY
@dedc79: Maybe his admittedly right wing views & douchy personality made his band a target?
Tommy
My best friend in college, non-military guy. His two best friends from college, Army, Air Borne. They’d come to college and in our Frat I was given one of them to mentor, which was funny because he knew he much more than I.
He never talked about his service much if at all.
There are only a few things I will never forget in my life. Seared into my memory.
He got called up for the first Iraq war. Packed his bags and was off in under 60 minutes. This:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PdiCJUysIT0
We had this on out PA system or hours, days actually. Set on stun!
Villago Delenda Est
@Paul in KY: Call them DAESH. Really pisses them off. Fuck them. Fuck their “Christian” equivalents in this country, like Rafael Cruz and Mike Hucksterbee.
Villago Delenda Est
@dedc79: What’s it like to be an apprentice to Julius Streicher? Perhaps Dreher can tell us?
mai naem mobile
This country just needs to split up or have a nice little civil war and thin the herd. Most of the thinning will happen in the red states when they find out their sugar daddy blue states ain’t paying for their healthcare,schools, roads and food stamps. Seriously, how do these dumb ayss bed wetting governators think they’re going to stop Syrian refugees coming across state lines? Some of these people are going to get on their feet pretty fast and be able to move. These idjits never think things through.
dedc79
@Paul in KY: That’s not the framing I’d use. Even if unintentional, it has the appearance of assigning some level of blame to the band for what happened.
Regardless, seems more likely that they targeted based on the venue, not the specific concert, and that the date was chosen b/c of the soccer match.
dedc79
@Villago Delenda Est: He also had a vile tweet the night of the attack (I think it showed up in a BJ post or at least in the comments) about how Merkel was inviting similar attacks in Germany.
scav
@catclub: Might even take out a God-fearin’ ‘Merkan Patriot one, Second-Amendmenting them from the dangers of indoctrination into sharing toys during playtime. Can’t trust those little sneaky ones.
Sister Rail Gun of Warm Humanitarianism
@Tommy: Tommy, you have a link in the footer that goes to your test site, which is currently not responding to the request. It’s why the page seems to be loading endlessly for so many of us.
Also, I know that cache manifests are good practice, but I think that’s the cause of the front page not refreshing for people. I haven’t been able to duplicate it myself, but it’s a long-running problem for certain browsers.
Pete Downunder
The Project is basically a daily light take on the news on Australian TV. Waleed Aly, however, often makes insightful and profound comments on issues around race, religion and Islam in particular. One of the very few voices in our commercial media who is consistently worth listening to.
NotMax
@dedc79
Witch!
Paul in KY
@dedc79: I saw an article about him & band, approximately 5 or 6 days before this happened. He was very ‘Kid Rockish’ in his views, etc.
Maybe they read the same article? Maybe that was why they were targeted, instead of another act. Who knows, but my conjecture is just as valid as his, IMO.
mai naem mobile
Fvck Daesh up the ayss with a baseball bat. Fvckers can’t win on the basis of their sheety 1200 B.C. ideas so they have to ‘govern’ their area through terrah. What a bunch of pooh seas. Real men don’t need to rape their women and cut off peoples’ heads. I bet all Daesh guys have teeny tiny little peckers. And, John Oliver’s right. Daesh has zero chance of winning against French culture.
dedc79
@Paul in KY:
I definitely agree with you on that.
Doug R
@Paul in KY: There is a great case to be made for using Daesh.
Peale
@Princess: Bashing immigrants is not a wedge issue for Republican voters. Pretty much 80% were in favor of keeping out the Syrians in a poll posted here. There aren’t any voters to be lost by playing up the fear factor. Since about 50% of the Democrats are also upset about Syrian immigrants, it is a perfect wedge issue to play up. No matter what position a Dem has, about 1/2 his or her voters won’t like it.
dedc79
@Paul in KY: Have also seen some reports that the Bataclan had been owned by French Jews (they sold it a few months ago) and that, as a result, it had been the subject of prior threats by extremists.
Paul in KY
@dedc79: Gee, French Jews owning stuff in France. Get outa town!!! These DAESH fucktards must have had a long, long list of places they were threatening.
The French will bust them up bad.
Villago Delenda Est
@Paul in KY: Some of America’s DAESH types, the Westboro Baptist Church, have made noises about going to France and stirring up trouble. They should not, because the French have laws about hate speech and they can scream “you’re trampling on my First Amendment Rights!” all day and the French will laugh at them as they latch the doors on their cells.
Fair Economist
@Southern Beale:
This is the ticket. It’s accurate; make them pay for it.
satby
@The Other Chuck: I say we start a pool: how many days till “Dontate” is corrected. I already lost, I bet 2 weeks.
edited to add: OK fixed, but I still lost.
Amir Khalid
@Sherparick:
This the text of the Police Nationale tweet:
I think (my French isn’t as good as my German) the “chienne” means the late Diesel was female.
Calouste
@Villago Delenda Est:
FTFY.
Besides, France is currently under a state of emergency and demonstrations are severely limited.
Betty Cracker
@Sherparick: Poor doggie. I hope she at least got to sink her teeth into the bastard’s scrotum before he killed her.
Jado
“But you know, it was three white dudes, so I guess not as scary.”
There is a long grand tradition in this country of white guys running wild and killing people with little justification and less consequences.
It’s all just part of the plan
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G0AXgaFqEas