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You are here: Home / Politics / Republican Stupidity / Republican Behavior in the Obama Presidency in One Paragraph

Republican Behavior in the Obama Presidency in One Paragraph

by John Cole|  November 23, 20156:29 pm| 150 Comments

This post is in: Republican Stupidity, Clown Shoes

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This is the most amazing poll ever:

The examples of the GOP’s reflexive opposition to President Obama’s agenda are many but this may be the best one yet: by a 27 point margin Republicans say they disapprove of the President’s executive order last year pardoning two Thanksgiving turkeys (Macaroni and Cheese) instead of the customary one. Only 11% of Republicans support the President’s executive order last year to 38% who are opposed- that’s a pretty clear sign that if you put Obama’s name on something GOP voters are going to oppose it pretty much no matter what.

Like I said in 2009, tire rims and anthrax, people. Remember that the next time some one tells you that Obama is divisive.

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  1. 1.

    redshirt

    November 23, 2015 at 6:30 pm

    Obama could sell me some tire rims.

  2. 2.

    Villago Delenda Est

    November 23, 2015 at 6:33 pm

    The near sheriff is near.

    That’s all these assholes need to know.

  3. 3.

    jl

    November 23, 2015 at 6:35 pm

    Yeah, I saw that.
    Bigotry and racism is all it is with a lot of people.

    Ran into a GOPer small business guy down the street glued to Fox news diatribe about Obama’s weak behavior after Paris attacks. I decided to pose as someone unfriendly to Obama in attempt to explore this guy’s thinking. So I compared point by point W and Obama’s behavior and blandly wondered aloud about how even though Obama sucks, there wasn’t much difference on that score.

    Small business dude said, well, the difference was that Obama showed weakness and W didn’t.
    And I asked how was that. Answer: Obama is weak.

    And I thought ‘OK, I get it, you’re a bigot.’ Whether it was bigot on partisan or racial basis or both, I don’t know and don’t care, since I won’t be going back there,

  4. 4.

    dmsilev

    November 23, 2015 at 6:37 pm

    Clearly, Obama is soft on crime in the Avian-American community.

    Not like that true American Patriot Sarah Palin.

  5. 5.

    p.a.

    November 23, 2015 at 6:39 pm

    Today Republicans denounced Obama’s stated hope for fair weather and timely rain.

  6. 6.

    Amir Khalid

    November 23, 2015 at 6:39 pm

    I think a lot of American liberals are still waiting for Obama’s weekly address on the topic “Clorox is Not A Beverage”.

  7. 7.

    Elizabelle

    November 23, 2015 at 6:41 pm

    @Amir Khalid: Oh, I wish!

  8. 8.

    jl

    November 23, 2015 at 6:41 pm

    @dmsilev: Thanks. One of my favorite youtube clips ever. And having spent quite a bit of time around Wasilla, fun to soak up memories of the local atmosphere as well as the laughs.

  9. 9.

    dmsilev

    November 23, 2015 at 6:43 pm

    @Amir Khalid: I’ve been waiting for Barack and Michelle to jointly record a series of Public Service Announcements entitled “Don’t drink bleach or lick live power sockets”.

  10. 10.

    max

    November 23, 2015 at 6:43 pm

    Like I said in 2009, tire rims and anthrax, people.

    I think the current contenders would deride tire rims as being for weaklings. ANTHRAX and BLACK PLAGUE are what’s on the menu.

    max
    [‘If they brought back Newt they could get SYPHILIS in there.’]

  11. 11.

    Mingobat f/k/a Karen in GA

    November 23, 2015 at 6:44 pm

    @Amir Khalid: I’m going to just start telling people that Michelle Obama says it’s bad for you.

  12. 12.

    max

    November 23, 2015 at 6:45 pm

    @Amir Khalid: I think a lot of American liberals are still waiting for Obama’s weekly address on the topic “Clorox is Not A Beverage”.

    ‘Mixing Clorox and Ajax is a dangerous practice which I am urging the FDA(?) to ban today.’

    max
    [‘The Empiricists Strike Back.’]

  13. 13.

    beltane

    November 23, 2015 at 6:45 pm

    @dmsilev: It’s a terrible thought, but the country could be free of wingnuts if Obama just said the magic words. They would all self-deport to the great beyond.

  14. 14.

    SarahT

    November 23, 2015 at 6:45 pm

    @Amir Khalid: And the following week, “Plugged-in appliances & bath Water don’t mix”.

  15. 15.

    redshirt

    November 23, 2015 at 6:45 pm

    Obama: Don’t pay your taxes or obey any federal law.

    Redneck: Well I’ll show that obummer by filing a detailed tax form well ahead of the deadline.

  16. 16.

    goblue72

    November 23, 2015 at 6:47 pm

    Remember all those morons you went to high school with? The vast majority you couldn’t WAIT to get away from once you graduated? The Neanderthals for whom high school homecoming was the “best part of their lives” / peak moment?

    Yeah – those people. They didn’t disappear. They just got older and now vote.

  17. 17.

    David Koch

    November 23, 2015 at 6:47 pm

    CBS Poll – Iowa — Nov 15-19

    Trump……………….30%
    Cruz…………………21%
    Carson……………..19%
    Rubio……………….11%
    ¿Jeb ?……………….5%◄

    CBS Poll – New Hampshire — Nov 15-19

    Trump……………….32%
    Rubio……………….13%
    Cruz…………………10%
    Carson……………..10%
    ¿Jeb ?……………….6%◄

  18. 18.

    MattF

    November 23, 2015 at 6:47 pm

    @dmsilev: Well, licking electrical sockets gives you direct insight into the Zeitgeist, so– I wouldn’t recommend it, but I wouldn’t forbid it either.

  19. 19.

    piratedan7

    November 23, 2015 at 6:48 pm

    Obama could solve a lot of our problems if he would simply tell White America to stop investing in inner city projects and improved infrastructure. Then he could follow that up by stating that there’s absolutely no way that we could put a GOP science base on Venus….

  20. 20.

    MattF

    November 23, 2015 at 6:51 pm

    @David Koch: Uh, let me guess… lots of evangelicals in Iowa?

  21. 21.

    dmsilev

    November 23, 2015 at 6:52 pm

    @David Koch: Clearly, !Jeb is surging.

    Edit: Summary chart. You can hear the GOP establishment types weeping as we speak.

  22. 22.

    MazeDancer

    November 23, 2015 at 6:54 pm

    @dmsilev:

    You have an excellent future on Twitter. Very smooth flashback to the Palin turkey death moment.

  23. 23.

    WereBear

    November 23, 2015 at 6:55 pm

    @goblue72: I did not peak at 17. Good point.

    Frankly, I’m hoping the best is yet to come.

  24. 24.

    David Koch

    November 23, 2015 at 6:55 pm

    @MattF: They love his multiple marriages and multiple affairs with (illegal?) immigrants.

    The candidate of family values (multiple families).

  25. 25.

    WereBear

    November 23, 2015 at 6:57 pm

    Unlike some, I wish for a Trump candidacy. The Republicans have to meltdown sometime. Please, let it be soon.

  26. 26.

    trollhattan

    November 23, 2015 at 7:01 pm

    @David Koch:
    Cruz prying some seperation from Rubio? Sheesh.

  27. 27.

    Archon

    November 23, 2015 at 7:01 pm

    @David Koch:

    If something is gonna happen with Trump’s poll numbers they better happen soon, because right now I think it’s just as likely that he sweeps the early states and cruises to the nomination then he implodes.

  28. 28.

    justawriter

    November 23, 2015 at 7:02 pm

    “Obama comes out in favor of breathing”

  29. 29.

    goblue72

    November 23, 2015 at 7:03 pm

    @WereBear: For a lot of us, it is. For Trump supporters, their lives have been on the downswing since high school. You know, basically since they had to fend for themselves.

  30. 30.

    Betty Cracker

    November 23, 2015 at 7:06 pm

    Twenty-seven percent margin, you say? I am a firm believer in coincidence and a natural skeptic, but this constant recurrence of 27% defies credulity.

  31. 31.

    WereBear

    November 23, 2015 at 7:07 pm

    @goblue72: I think it says a lot about a person when they consider high school the most wonderful part of their lives. I’ve talked to people with careers and families and things I would think they value: and yet, if the magic booth appeared that would wipe all that away and whisk them back to the halls of Podunk High… they would do it.

    That’s really sad.

  32. 32.

    Citizen_X

    November 23, 2015 at 7:10 pm

    @David Koch: Wow. So, Doctor Sleepy really has been this year’s Herman Cain, huh?

  33. 33.

    Gravenstone

    November 23, 2015 at 7:12 pm

    @max: Clorox and ammonia is the one you want to steer clear of. Have the President issue a PSA about that and we’ll be wiping out whole wingnut hordes.

  34. 34.

    Litlebritdifrnt

    November 23, 2015 at 7:14 pm

    As suggested above but I would go a little further. A couple of weekly addresses such as “I plan on suggesting legislation to make it illegal to clean your gun while it is loaded” and “I plan on issuing an executive order making playing Russian Roulette a jailable offense” should do the trick, we could kill two birds with one stone so to speak.

  35. 35.

    redshirt

    November 23, 2015 at 7:14 pm

    So one can view Michelle Obama’s kid activity programs as dark attempts to fatten up white Americans and plump them for ever more diabetes and related health issues.

  36. 36.

    Kay

    November 23, 2015 at 7:15 pm

    @David Koch:

    Kasich is trying to capitalize on the Trump event in Ohio. I’m not sure who he’s scolding- GOP primary voters? They’re the people going to the rally.

  37. 37.

    Mary G

    November 23, 2015 at 7:15 pm

    I actually heard some old asshole complain last year about the pardoned turkeys being named Macaroni and Cheese because only “those people” eat that at Thanksgiving. When I asked “what people?” I just got the look.

  38. 38.

    Mnemosyne (iPhone)

    November 23, 2015 at 7:17 pm

    @WereBear:

    I think it’s related to when Rep. Steve King was lamenting that the world didn’t stay as simple as it was when he was a child — the people who think like that never realize that the world *seemed* simpler when they were children, but it was a false impression. Even to stick to King’s own childhood, it’s hard to claim that any post-Holocaust society was part of “a more innocent time.”

    I first realized this when I heard a filmmaker talk unironically about the 1970s being “a more innocent time” with no apparent comprehension that it only seemed that way because he was a child at the time. No one who was an adult (or even a teenager) could claim with a straight face that the 1970s was a more innocent time.

  39. 39.

    SiubhanDuinne

    November 23, 2015 at 7:17 pm

    They truly are infuckingsane.

    by a 27 point margin Republicans say they disapprove of the President’s executive order last year

    Hmmmmm…

  40. 40.

    goblue72

    November 23, 2015 at 7:18 pm

    @Mary G: Seriously? That is majorly effed up.

    I grew up not too far from Pennsylvania Dutch country. My fathers side of the family was German-American – we always had mac and cheese for Thanksgiving. And Christmas.

  41. 41.

    SatanicPanic

    November 23, 2015 at 7:19 pm

    @dmsilev: won’t someone talk about bird-on-bird crime?

  42. 42.

    Mnemosyne (iPhone)

    November 23, 2015 at 7:22 pm

    @Mary G:

    You mean Lutherans?
    /snark

    We didn’t have it because we’re (mostly) Italian Catholics, so we had to choke down my aunt’s terrible lasagna instead, but I knew plenty of whiter-than-white folks who had mac and cheese for winter holidays, especially the Northern Europeans (German, Dutch, even Swedish).

  43. 43.

    SFAW

    November 23, 2015 at 7:23 pm

    @beltane:

    It’s a terrible thought, but the country could be free of wingnuts if Obama just said the magic words.

    I used to think I was reasonably intelligent, but I guess I’m missing something: how is that a “terrible thought”?

    Or are you one of those Lie-berals who hates (the real, non-wingnut version of) America?

  44. 44.

    goblue72

    November 23, 2015 at 7:24 pm

    @Mnemosyne (iPhone): I seem to recall reading some study way back about how the time period that people often think of as the “golden age” in the past – that is, when things were “better back then” – tends to overlap closely to the time period when they were children / teenagers. Life seemed better/simpler/more hopefully back then simply because as children they had adults taking care of them and sheltering them from reality.

    Cognitive dissonance for sure, but it does explain some of it.

  45. 45.

    FlyingToaster

    November 23, 2015 at 7:25 pm

    @Mary G: 4-year olds? Italians? Italian 4-year olds?

    I swear, people are getting even stupider, every single day.

  46. 46.

    Myiq2xu

    November 23, 2015 at 7:25 pm

    I see you’re still covering the important stuff. Meanwhile:

    Analysts Accuse CENTCOM of Covering Up Cooked ISIS Intelligence

    In July, a group of intelligence analysts at the U.S. military’s Central Command accused their bosses of distorting and selectively editing intelligence reports about the fight against ISIS in order to portray that campaign as more successful than it really was. As a result of those complaints, the Pentagon’s inspector general opened an investigation.

    Now, the allegations of misconduct have extended to a possible cover-up, with some analysts accusing the senior intelligence officials at Centcom, Maj. Gen. Steven Grove and his civilian deputy, Gregory Ryckman, of deleting emails and files from computer systems before the inspector general could examine them, three individuals familiar with the investigation told The Daily Beast.

    One U.S. official said the alleged activity could amount to obstruction and interference with the inspector general’s investigation, which began last summer. He noted that files relevant to the investigation began to disappear from Centcom computers after the Pentagon watchdog’s staff began their work.

    Two sources said that investigators are piecing together a trail of emails and reports to find out what may have been deleted, as well as what officials outside CENTCOM knew about potential manipulation of intelligence.

    The analysts themselves have taken steps to preserve material that could be used as evidence, these people said.

  47. 47.

    JPL

    November 23, 2015 at 7:26 pm

    It seems to me that Malia’s skirt wasn’t appropriate for the pardoning. Maybe that was for another event though.

  48. 48.

    goblue72

    November 23, 2015 at 7:28 pm

    @Mnemosyne (iPhone): Its true. Was raised Lutheran in 50% Pennsylvania German household (the other half Slavic mutts). We always had mac and cheese for holiday meals. Thanksgiving, Christmas, Easter…shit, I swear we had mac and cheese for Presidents Day, Columbus Day and the 4th of July – and even birthdays.

  49. 49.

    Enhanced Voting Techinques

    November 23, 2015 at 7:30 pm

    @Mnemosyne (iPhone): So Represtive King is pining for the presidency of Jimmy Carter and Disco then. I thought hating the 70s was some Conservative litmus test.

  50. 50.

    WereBear

    November 23, 2015 at 7:34 pm

    @Mnemosyne (iPhone): An excellent point. Which indicates they never grew up, did they?

  51. 51.

    WereBear

    November 23, 2015 at 7:36 pm

    @Mnemosyne (iPhone): Heck yeah! That’s when you got the homemade kind with browned bread crumbs on top.

  52. 52.

    Anoniminous

    November 23, 2015 at 7:37 pm

    @David Koch:

    With those numbers, his national support, and the new 20% rule Trump will waltz to the GOP nomination.

  53. 53.

    Mnemosyne (iPhone)

    November 23, 2015 at 7:37 pm

    @Myiq2x0:

    Let me know when they actually find something, unlike Benghazi. And the IRS “scandal.” And all of the other “scandals” that fizzled out when they belched up from the depths of the fever swamp into the light of day.

  54. 54.

    Mike J

    November 23, 2015 at 7:38 pm

    @JPL: Because pardoning the turkeys is such a solemn occasion. Story on it.

  55. 55.

    WereBear

    November 23, 2015 at 7:39 pm

    @Enhanced Voting Techinques: And glitter t-shirts, platform shoes, blaxploitation films, rampant high school drug use, the energy crisis, and men in beige suits.

    Who wouldn’t miss all that?

    Well, I am a blaxploitation fan. But I had to throw that in as emblematic of the era.

  56. 56.

    Mnemosyne (iPhone)

    November 23, 2015 at 7:39 pm

    @Enhanced Voting Techinques:

    He specifically mentioned “Fun with Dick and Jane,” but maybe he meant the Jane Fonda movie?

  57. 57.

    Patricia Kayden

    November 23, 2015 at 7:47 pm

    @redshirt: Me too. I am very proud of President Obama. Even when I disagree with him on something, I’m still proud that he’s in the White House and has remained so dignified and calm despite having to deal with raving lunatics aka Republicans.

    @WereBear: It’s looking as if you’ll get your wish then. If out and out racism and fascism isn’t denting Trump’s leads in the poll, then he’s got the GOP nomination. He’s exactly what they deserve. May Secretary Clinton beat him in a brutal landslide next November.

  58. 58.

    Mnemosyne (iPhone)

    November 23, 2015 at 7:47 pm

    @WereBear:

    I was a kid in the 1970s, but I remember Patty Hearst and Jonestown, among other major events. The only way in which I think of it as “a more innocent time” is that kids were allowed to walk to school or around town by themselves instead of having to be driven everywhere for their “safety.”

  59. 59.

    Kendall

    November 23, 2015 at 7:48 pm

    Paging Mr. Cleek, is there a Mr. Cleek here?

  60. 60.

    Calouste

    November 23, 2015 at 7:49 pm

    @goblue72: Some people just never grow up.

  61. 61.

    Villago Delenda Est

    November 23, 2015 at 7:50 pm

    @Myiq2xu: So, anything backing this up besides anonymous sources?

    I thought not.

  62. 62.

    Calouste

    November 23, 2015 at 7:51 pm

    @Anoniminous: I have seen the 20% rule mentioned a few times, do you have a link? I’m interested in the details.

  63. 63.

    blackcain

    November 23, 2015 at 7:53 pm

    @goblue72: I am hungry now for mac n cheese. The gourmet stuff, not that franco-american crap. With some made in portland hot sauce (miss delta hotsauce.. so good).. YUM. Unfortunately, today is fried rice, from the leftover rice from the south indian food I made two days ago.

  64. 64.

    JPL

    November 23, 2015 at 7:53 pm

    @Mike J: Thanks.. I would have blamed Drudge but the article was interesting since the GOP staff member had been arrested for shoplifting.

  65. 65.

    Calouste

    November 23, 2015 at 7:54 pm

    @Patricia Kayden: And if Adolf Trump doesn’t get the nomination, it’s obvious he goes third party. Because for Trump “fair play” means “everybody does what I say”. He has the GOP by the balls, they either lose with him or lose without him.

  66. 66.

    goblue72

    November 23, 2015 at 7:57 pm

    @Myiq2xu: BENGH-ISIS!!!!!

  67. 67.

    Julie

    November 23, 2015 at 7:58 pm

    @Mary G: Macaroni and cheese libel! My family is about as white and Midwestern as they come and we love our macaroni side dishes.

  68. 68.

    Richard Mayhew

    November 23, 2015 at 8:00 pm

    Reading through that comments thread was interesting in seeing who is still around, who disappeared and McLaren praising Putin.

  69. 69.

    blackcain

    November 23, 2015 at 8:00 pm

    @Julie: Who doesn’t? Isn’t it considered the american food that everyone had back in the 50s and stuff? I mean good grief, it is as american as pie. When did it become something associated with just black folks?

  70. 70.

    Bobby Thomson

    November 23, 2015 at 8:01 pm

    @dmsilev: The turkey is not the issue, dude! We’re talking about unchecked aggression.

  71. 71.

    Corner Stone

    November 23, 2015 at 8:01 pm

    @blackcain: Is this the stuff you are talking about? The site says it is a mild hot sauce. Any personal review/insight you can provide on this sauce?

  72. 72.

    Julie

    November 23, 2015 at 8:01 pm

    @blackcain: Exactly. That just boggles my mind.

  73. 73.

    Corner Stone

    November 23, 2015 at 8:04 pm

    I love mac N cheese, in basically a bunch of different varieties. Not big on all the gourmet versions, but I’ll give ’em a shot. I like my own homemade version but anyone with a Luby’s nearby should give their mac a chance.

  74. 74.

    jeffreyw

    November 23, 2015 at 8:04 pm

    @WereBear: You betcha!

  75. 75.

    Corner Stone

    November 23, 2015 at 8:06 pm

    @jeffreyw: That looks delish but I, personally, am less enamored of the baked versions.

  76. 76.

    MomSense

    November 23, 2015 at 8:07 pm

    @Corner Stone:

    Have you ever tried lobster mac’n cheese?

  77. 77.

    jeffreyw

    November 23, 2015 at 8:08 pm

    @Corner Stone: I don’t get out much, what other kind is there?

  78. 78.

    NotMax

    November 23, 2015 at 8:08 pm

    Turkeys this year ought to be named Malcolm and X.

    Just because heads will ‘splode.

  79. 79.

    raven

    November 23, 2015 at 8:09 pm

    @jeffreyw: More fresh fish down here. Big Black Drum fillets on the grill!

  80. 80.

    Corner Stone

    November 23, 2015 at 8:11 pm

    @MomSense: No, not had the chance as yet. However, my culinary history is such that when I get the chance to eat lobster, I just want lobster and nothing mixed in with it.
    I imagine it’s pretty rich with an interesting texture. Is it good?

  81. 81.

    LWA

    November 23, 2015 at 8:11 pm

    I know that Nate Silver and other smart folk are telling us not to get worried about Trump, but its not Trump that worries me, its the base he represents.
    Trump could fall into a black hole tomorrow, and whoever takes his place will be forced to kowtow to these people.
    Which is why it is so awful to see the media contort themselves into knots trying to present a fair and balanced debate on pepperoni and sausage versus anthrax and tire rims.

  82. 82.

    Corner Stone

    November 23, 2015 at 8:12 pm

    @jeffreyw: Not-baked.

  83. 83.

    Gimlet

    November 23, 2015 at 8:12 pm

    Great editorial cartoon. Hits ’em where they live!

    http://assets.amuniversal.com/9657e76073eb01331f06005056a9545d

  84. 84.

    rikyrah

    November 23, 2015 at 8:12 pm

    @David Koch:

    Your listing of polls with Jeb never fails to crack me up.

  85. 85.

    Mary G

    November 23, 2015 at 8:13 pm

    For huge laughs go to John Scalzi’s site, Whatever, and read In Which I Select a Current GOP Presidential Candidate to Vote For, 2015 Edition. I choked myself, I laughed so hard.

  86. 86.

    rikyrah

    November 23, 2015 at 8:13 pm

    The examples of the GOP’s reflexive opposition to President Obama’s agenda are many but this may be the best one yet: by a 27 point margin Republicans say they disapprove of the President’s executive order last year pardoning two Thanksgiving turkeys (Macaroni and Cheese) instead of the customary one.

    That 27 is so magical, it’s become almost comical

  87. 87.

    schrodinger's cat

    November 23, 2015 at 8:13 pm

    @Corner Stone: Since you invoked me on an earlier thread, this is my suggestion for wardrobe choice to wear for Thanksgiving.
    From this morning’s thread:
    Corner Stone: You can wear a dhoti, basically a piece of fabric. What you see in this song is the the Bengali version. There are as many versions of draping a dhoti as there are of the sari. Not recommended for New England winters but might just work in Texas.

  88. 88.

    NotMax

    November 23, 2015 at 8:16 pm

    Still an exercise in spontaneous street theater after all these years, the now obligatory Sarah Palin Turkey Interview.

  89. 89.

    Corner Stone

    November 23, 2015 at 8:19 pm

    @schrodinger’s cat: Oh, that’s the stuff alright. I’ve been alternating between scrubs and the Anakin Skywalker brown Jedi cloak my mother made me a couple years ago.

  90. 90.

    schrodinger's cat

    November 23, 2015 at 8:25 pm

    @Corner Stone: I have no idea how Madhuri can dance in a sari, practice I guess. Whenever I am wearing a sari, I secure it with elebenty pins and try not to move around much.

  91. 91.

    Anoniminous

    November 23, 2015 at 8:26 pm

    @Calouste:

    Have to dig into the various state party rules for the exact wording but it’s generally something like (example from Alabama):

    21 district delegates are allocated to presidential contenders, “winner-take-most”, based on the results of the primary in each congressional district. Each of the 7 congressional districts is assigned 3 National Convention delegates.

    If a candidate receives a majority of the vote (more than 50%) or if only one candidate receives 20% or more of the vote, that candidate is allocated all 3 of the district’s delegates.
    If no candidate receives a majority of the vote and more than 1 candidate receives 20% or more of the vote, the candidate with the most votes is allocated 2 delegates and the candidate with the next highest number of votes is allocated 1 delegate.
    If no candidate receives 20% of the vote, the 3 district delegates are proportionally allocated to the presidential contenders. See the rounding rules below.

    26 at-large delegates are allocated to presidential contenders, “winner-take-most”, based on the statewide results of the primary.

    If a candidate receives a majority of the vote (more than 50%) or if only one candidate receives 20% or more of the vote, that candidate is allocated all of the 26 at-large delegates.

  92. 92.

    Gin & Tonic

    November 23, 2015 at 8:27 pm

    @Corner Stone: No. Lobster is good. Macaroni and cheese is good. I don’t know what makes people think they’d be good together.

  93. 93.

    NotMax

    November 23, 2015 at 8:29 pm

    @schrodfinger’s cat

    Whenever I am wearing a sari, I secure it with elebenty pins and try not to move around much.

    Love means never having to sway your sari.

  94. 94.

    SarahT

    November 23, 2015 at 8:31 pm

    @LWA: Exactly. This.

  95. 95.

    Corner Stone

    November 23, 2015 at 8:31 pm

    @NotMax: Oh, man. That was just sari.

  96. 96.

    schrodinger's cat

    November 23, 2015 at 8:32 pm

    @NotMax: That’s funny. Its kind of sad that I have no opportunity to wear saris. The last time I wore one was for a rehearsal dinner, at my Norwegian friend’s wedding. Even in India, saris are kinda falling out of favor among the city folks.

  97. 97.

    schrodinger's cat

    November 23, 2015 at 8:34 pm

    @Gin & Tonic: Agreed! I too like my lobster unadulterated without any fatty garnish including butter.

  98. 98.

    MomSense

    November 23, 2015 at 8:35 pm

    @Corner Stone:

    It can be really good and also god awful. When it is good it is fantastic.

  99. 99.

    Gin & Tonic

    November 23, 2015 at 8:36 pm

    @NotMax: Go away.

  100. 100.

    Corner Stone

    November 23, 2015 at 8:37 pm

    @blackcain: For goodness sake, man! Could you please answer me? We’re not talking about some flighty topic like sports, this is a matter of hot sauce!

  101. 101.

    benw

    November 23, 2015 at 8:38 pm

    Obama ought to announce that the WH Thanksgiving dinner will be vegan this year, with lots of arugula!

  102. 102.

    NotMax

    November 23, 2015 at 8:39 pm

    @schrodinger’s cat

    Worst sounding lobster dish ever?

    *yuck-o*

  103. 103.

    schrodinger's cat

    November 23, 2015 at 8:39 pm

    @benw: Tofurkey is a crime against humanity.

  104. 104.

    mellowjohn

    November 23, 2015 at 8:44 pm

    @Mnemosyne (iPhone):
    fortunately for him, Steve King as stayed a simple as he was as a child.

  105. 105.

    schrodinger's cat

    November 23, 2015 at 8:44 pm

    @NotMax: Do. Not. Want.

  106. 106.

    benw

    November 23, 2015 at 8:46 pm

    @schrodinger’s cat: so you’re saying we’d have two consecutive criminal WH occupants?

  107. 107.

    goblue72

    November 23, 2015 at 8:46 pm

    @Corner Stone: I’ve made it at home and its fantastic. Have it with a full-bodied Chardonnay and a simple mixed greens or frisee salad, and you are in for some good eats.

  108. 108.

    Mnemosyne (iPhone)

    November 23, 2015 at 8:50 pm

    @benw:

    I am not a vegan, but the Trader Joe’s Turkey-Less Stuffed Roast doesn’t look that bad. Better than the boil-in-bag pressed turkey loaf my sister-in-law served one year.

    (She has gotten better at cooking and even made an actual from-scratch bird last year that wasn’t too bad. Still, the pressed turkey loaf and Potato Buds holiday will live in infamy for decades to come.)

  109. 109.

    max

    November 23, 2015 at 8:55 pm

    @Gravenstone: Clorox and ammonia is the one you want to steer clear of. Have the President issue a PSA about that and we’ll be wiping out whole wingnut hordes.

    That too! (I was actually thinking of ammonia and Barkeeper’s Friend, I think.) Generally, this is a pretty exciting mixture. I was thinking ammonia and clorox are too dangerous for wingnuts to be uh, ENcouraged from using them.

    max
    [‘Don’t want to take out the whole house.’]

  110. 110.

    Suzanne

    November 23, 2015 at 9:05 pm

    I am making Gruyere mac and cheese for Thanksgiving. We’re doing prime rib rather than turkey this year, though. We all decided we needed a turkey break.

    I am also making a tarte tatin with honeycrisp apples.

    My boss made more snide comments about HRC and POTUSBHO today. I did not rise to his bait. But I really, REALLY hope that I can subtly rub it in the day after the election. Maybe I’ll wear a whole bunch of jingle bells to work that day. Oh, he’ll be so annoyed.

  111. 111.

    Corner Stone

    November 23, 2015 at 9:07 pm

    @Suzanne:

    with honeycrisp apples

    {Homer donut noises…}

  112. 112.

    Suzanne

    November 23, 2015 at 9:09 pm

    @Corner Stone: Honeycrisp apples are the most delicious fruit ever. Seriously. They are like the Platonic ideal of an apple. This time of year, I eat plenty of meals that consist solely of a giant honeycrisp with some peanut butter.

  113. 113.

    blackcain

    November 23, 2015 at 9:10 pm

    @Corner Stone:
    Yes! Yeah, it’s not really hot, but it has a ton of flavor and has a good bright kick to it which contrasts really well with mac n cheese. If you want hotter of course, there are others.

  114. 114.

    max

    November 23, 2015 at 9:12 pm

    @Corner Stone: For goodness sake, man! Could you please answer me? We’re not talking about some flighty topic like sports, this is a matter of hot sauce!

    Try this stuff, dude. It’s obviously not the same thing, but I’d bet it’s actually fairly close based on the description of the Portland stuff.

    max
    [‘HTH.’]

  115. 115.

    max

    November 23, 2015 at 9:12 pm

    {laughs} NOW there’s an answer.

    max
    [‘Such a day.’]

  116. 116.

    Gin & Tonic

    November 23, 2015 at 9:16 pm

    @Suzanne: I don’t know if they travel much out of New England, and it probably helps that if I draw a circle of two-mile radius centered on my house I’ll find like five apple orchards, but Macouns are the apple to eat.

  117. 117.

    schrodinger's cat

    November 23, 2015 at 9:19 pm

    @Gin & Tonic: Braeburns are the best, also too Gala.

  118. 118.

    Corner Stone

    November 23, 2015 at 9:23 pm

    @schrodinger’s cat:

    Braeburns are the best, also too Gala.

    Considerably inferior to the Honeycrisp.

  119. 119.

    Gin & Tonic

    November 23, 2015 at 9:24 pm

    @schrodinger’s cat: Damned immigrants.

  120. 120.

    NotMax

    November 23, 2015 at 9:24 pm

    @schrodinger’s cat

    Braeburns, Jazz, Northern Spy (heirloom variety, much harder to find than in the good old days) all good.

    Rome for baked apples.

  121. 121.

    Corner Stone

    November 23, 2015 at 9:25 pm

    @max: I like pickapeppa for something different once in a while on certain dishes. I generally like my hot sauce to be more hot than vinegar. But I’ll try all kinds, thanks.

  122. 122.

    NotMax

    November 23, 2015 at 9:30 pm

    @Corner Stone

    So old recall when the choices were limited to Tabasco, Frank’s and Firehouse brands in most stores.

  123. 123.

    schrodinger's cat

    November 23, 2015 at 9:31 pm

    @Corner Stone: I prefer them, I like apples with a touch of tartness to them. I find Honeycrisps too sweet. YMMV.

  124. 124.

    schrodinger's cat

    November 23, 2015 at 9:33 pm

    @Corner Stone: Amateur, I make my own hot sauce, sauces actually. One with green chilies and one with red.

  125. 125.

    PurpleGirl

    November 23, 2015 at 9:35 pm

    @schrodinger’s cat: Is she wearing a sari in that dance number? It seems to be pants and a long skirt with blouse-like top.

  126. 126.

    Mnemosyne (tablet)

    November 23, 2015 at 9:39 pm

    @Suzanne:

    If they sell them near you, try a Pacific Rose. I like them even better than Honeycrisp, but they’re winter-only and sometimes West Coast only. I’ve gotten them at Whole Foods and Safeway.

  127. 127.

    Suzanne

    November 23, 2015 at 9:40 pm

    @Corner Stone: Concur. I like Galas, but they don’t hold a candle to honeycrisps.

    I am mentally checked out of work….it’s going to be hard getting through the week.

  128. 128.

    schrodinger's cat

    November 23, 2015 at 9:44 pm

    @PurpleGirl: Madhuri is most definitely wearing a sari, in chalak chalak, she turns around at around 2.50 min mark in the song. The men are wearing a kurta and a dhoti.

  129. 129.

    devore

    November 23, 2015 at 9:44 pm

    Interesting, I clearly remember your 2009 post about tires and anthrax.

  130. 130.

    Corner Stone

    November 23, 2015 at 9:46 pm

    @schrodinger’s cat: I make my own salsa but for bottled hot sauces I like trying as wide a variety as I can get my hands on. Always open to suggestion, he said suggestively.

  131. 131.

    Mike in NC

    November 23, 2015 at 9:54 pm

    @Corner Stone: Half Moon Bay Trading Company has the best selection of hot sauces.

  132. 132.

    NotMax

    November 23, 2015 at 9:59 pm

    @Corner Stone

    Always open to suggestion, he said suggestively.

    Not a sauce by any measure, but something I often use for undertones of heat when cooking Asian/Asian fusion/stir fry (or in drops on top of servings of chili or mac & cheese) is called Mongolian Fire Oil. Surprisingly, widely stocked at places like Target.

    Alternatively, this stuff.

  133. 133.

    J R in WV

    November 23, 2015 at 9:59 pm

    @goblue72:

    When I was a little boy, I tried to dig a bomb/fallout shelter in our crawl space. I was 11. I got several wheelbarrow loads of dirt and broken rock out, and then I was into a hard sandstone cap-rock strata that needed a compressor and jack-hammer and/or explosives to penetrate. So I quit at that point. The Russian fleet had turned around, anyway, by then.

    Years later my dad needed a new furnace, and the plumbing and heating contractor brought in a compressor and jack-hammer and removed about 8 times as much rock as I removed by hand during the Cuban missile crisis to pour a flat concrete floor and install a new furnace. It took about a week, I heard, after I got out of the Navy, where I learned even more about nuclear warfare.

    Of course, a fallout shelter would have taken a lot bigger hole than the rock that was removed to provide room for a furnace. So even with an air compressor and jack-hammer we wouldn’t have been able to build a realistic shelter – we would have worked really hard and then died anyway.

    My youth was simple and not threatening, except for the ever present threat of whole earth nuclear war all the time. Every public building had fallout shelter signs, and stacks of food and water packages under the stair wells. I’m talking about the YMCA, the Library, city hall, the court house, and the school buildings. Wait, the banks also had Civil Defense materials stored, in case the world ended on Tuesday.

    And when Nixon was President it was less stressful, because the people dying were 12,000 miles away, and mostly brown natives.

    I have a good friend who’s father was a pilot in the USAF in the 1960s and ’70s. He flew heavy cargo planes from SE Asia to Hawaii, and from Hawaii to Dover, DE. Where the military accepts the corpses of troops killed in action. Buzz, the 90+ year old pilot, can’t deal with death, as he dealt with 10s of thousands of bodies in coffins with American flags on them, when I was a child..

    Ross Douthat, Damm you for admiring Richard Nixon, master War Criminal, master Geopolitical strategist, master fabricator of untruth, Republican Hero criminal.

  134. 134.

    Corner Stone

    November 23, 2015 at 10:04 pm

    @Mike in NC: Good low investment option for Xmas suggestions to the fam, thanks!

  135. 135.

    NotMax

    November 23, 2015 at 10:12 pm

    @Corner Stone

    Also too (the brand name escapes me) there’s a sauce brewed up in Costa Rica with scotch bonnet peppers, vinegar and peaches which is wicked good and wickeder hot.

  136. 136.

    schrodinger's cat

    November 23, 2015 at 10:14 pm

    @Corner Stone: Blend together freshly grated ginger, chopped garlic, thai bird’s eye chilies, cilantro and lime juice. Blend with a little water. Use as a marinade for fish, shrimp, chicken etc.

  137. 137.

    Corner Stone

    November 23, 2015 at 10:15 pm

    @NotMax: I think that’s Marie Sharp’s out of Belize, maybe? I had a friend come back from there several years ago and tell me to pick some up.
    I have bought quite a few items from there, if that’s who you are referring to.

    ETA, ok, just re-read and saw the “peaches” part so maybe not Marie Sharp’s. If you think of it let us know.

  138. 138.

    NotMax

    November 23, 2015 at 10:20 pm

    @Corner Stone

    Google to the rescue.

  139. 139.

    agorabum

    November 23, 2015 at 10:24 pm

    @johncole – I borrow your “tire rims and anthrax” analogy from time to time. Still one of the best responses out there to “divisiveness” and “compromise” from those addicted to faux centrism.

  140. 140.

    Bill Murray

    November 23, 2015 at 10:31 pm

    @Corner Stone: pickapeppa is my favorite sauce, especially for philly sandwiches and cheese tots

  141. 141.

    Corner Stone

    November 23, 2015 at 10:34 pm

    @NotMax: Going to pick up some of that, thanks.

  142. 142.

    schrodinger's cat

    November 23, 2015 at 10:35 pm

    @PurpleGirl: The sari is draped in the traditional Bengali style in that song. In Pinga, its a nine yard sari draped in the Marathi style. The usual sari, is six yards.

  143. 143.

    Ruckus

    November 23, 2015 at 10:41 pm

    @Mnemosyne (iPhone):
    This.
    I’ve said many times that things may have been different 50 yrs ago but harder or easier is related to what someone had to do to feed and shelter themselves. And that is somewhat a matter of age and a matter of the economy. Four yrs ago I would have said that life is tougher now than in the 70s, because mine was. Today I’d say virtually no difference. And in the late 60s-mid 70s I had to deal with the draft and the military and that’s always fun.

  144. 144.

    PurpleGirl

    November 23, 2015 at 10:59 pm

    @schrodinger’s cat: Ah, I see. Thank you.

  145. 145.

    NotMax

    November 23, 2015 at 11:08 pm

    @Corner Stone

    Use sparingly at first. The punch of the heat sneaks up on a time delay. And that punch is smokin’ and flaming.

    Shall keep an eye out for your review.

  146. 146.

    Gin & Tonic

    November 23, 2015 at 11:19 pm

    @NotMax: Dave’s hot sauces, um, take some getting used to.

  147. 147.

    Paul in KY

    November 24, 2015 at 9:58 am

    @Amir Khalid: That would clear up some problems we have with irrational Obama hatred.

  148. 148.

    Paul in KY

    November 24, 2015 at 10:00 am

    @Litlebritdifrnt: I like the way you think!

  149. 149.

    lethargytartare

    November 24, 2015 at 11:11 am

    @Gravenstone:

    @max: Clorox and ammonia is the one you want to steer clear of. Have the President issue a PSA about that and we’ll be wiping out whole wingnut hordes.

    having created chloramine during a particularly aggressive cleaning session, I can attest to these dangers. For maximum fun, Obama should propose a law against mixing 3 jugs of Ammonia with 1 jug of Clorox in the deep sink.

    Michelle could just go on The View and suggest people shouldn’t clean litterboxes with bleach in enclosed areas and Fox viewer numbers would drop by 10% .

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