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Value destroyed, per the Hollywood Reporter:

After showing live television footage of inside the home of the San Bernardino mass shooting assailants, the network has apologized for the decision on Friday…

Earlier in day, in a widely criticized decision, multiple news organizations, including CNN, aired live footage from the home of assailants Tashfeen Malik and Syed Rizwan Farook, including walking around rooms and showing photographs in the household.

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  3. 3.

    David Koch

    Bernard Shaw: “The skies over Baghdad some suburban apartment are illuminated”

    If Ted Turner was dead, he’d be rolling over in his grave.

  7. 7.

    Geoduck

    While what the news jackals did was disgusting, I’m more curious how this happened at a law-enforcement level. Surely after two or three days, they weren’t done going through the apartment? Who exactly failed to keep the place secure? And if they were done.. they left stuff behind like driver’s licenses?

  13. 13.

    Amir Khalid

    @efgoldman:
    As Adam pointed out in the previous thread, Law & Order has a better budget for stationing a cop at the apartment door than the San Bernardino PD. So it might not have been police incompetence.

  14. 14.

    NotMax

    Sign of the times?

    Went to post office today. On the door was this pre-printed notice:

    We will be closed to observe Christmas on December 26.

  16. 16.

    scav

    Piranhas will manage to get enough publicity milage out of their faux-contrition as they got out of the invasion in the first place. Journalistic Two-Fer!!

  22. 22.

    Mnemosyne (tablet)

    @amk:

    Because you hate “Miracle on 34th Street,” or because it’s not showing near you?

    If you’re worried about a mass shooter, I would avoid seeing the new “Star Wars” movie long before I avoided a small, two-nights-only engagement.

  27. 27.

    BillinGlendaleCA

    @efgoldman:

    How much does it cost to string yellow crime scene tape? Hell, we have a humongous roll in the basement.

    So that’s how you keep guests away.

  29. 29.

    scav

    Bet it wouldn’t matter if someone failed to lock their door, they’d still be able to stand their ground against anyone that wandered in, let alone anyone the landlord let in unexpectedly.

  30. 30.

    Elie

    Every reporter who stepped into the apartment KNEW it was wrong to do it. I have no idea why things like the suspects Mom’s driver’s license was still there and not secured or why other official papers were not as well. Someone on a previous post or on another site said that in CA what the landlord did was illegal. He had an obligation to secure the contents of this house for the family and in this case, the daughter of the couple. He has to have had the instincts of an animal but I equally fault the reporters who surely knew this was wrong. I am not sure who this will fall on ultimately, but I see a law suit with money awards in someone’s future. My advise to the family of the couple is to lawyer up with a good lawyer, not that weirdo you hired who was blaberring on about Sandy Hook conspiracies and some such. Surely they can find someone better than that….

  31. 31.

    NotMax

    @Omnes Omnibus

    Strictly curious from a legal perspective (and aware it may not be your forte) – read though a revised cardholder agreement just sent me about changes regarding a credit card.

    Anyway, lots of small text about how one could opt out of many of the changes to the agreement. Doing do would result in cancellation of the account EXCEPT for opting out of mandatory arbitration, which must be done explicitly and only by letter. Doing that would have (paraphrasing) no detriment or affect on the status of the account.

    Which I don’t for a moment believe. Too skeptical?

    It’s a gas station card which gets paid in full each month so suits or arbitration not really something that’s gonna come up, but curious regardless.

  32. 32.

    Mnemosyne (tablet)

    @efgoldman:

    Scrooge! I like the Edmund Gwenn “Miracle on 34th Street” — IIRC, he got a richly deserved Oscar nomination for it. He keeps the whimsy on a tight leash, and that final scene in the house makes it all worthwhile. The remake is crap, though.

    My favorite modern Christmas movie is, yes, “Elf.” It takes all of the best themes from “Miracle” and puts them into a modern setting. And when else are you going to see Bob Newhart as an elf, James Caan as the Scrooge-like cranky bastard who grows a heart (signaled by the heartwarming line, “Up yours”), and Ed Asner as Santa Claus?

  37. 37.

    jl

    I disagree with Salmon

    ” information is hugely valuable before it has been reported ”

    Maybe true in business and finance, but in this case? What was the value of the information?
    I heard the audio feed of some of this BS on the radio and found it difficult to believe anyone would watch such stupid shit, and wondered who allowed it to happen. From everything I’ve read about it, there was no news value to the information at all. WTF news value is there in some the driver’s license or social security card of a relative with no suspected involvement in the crime at all? None that I can see. What a disgusting worthless shit show.

  38. 38.

    Mnemosyne (tablet)

    @Elie:

    I kind of understand that they really, really don’t want to have to face the fact that their family members committed a horrible crime and left them to face the consequences so they hired a guy who’s telling them what they want to hear, but hiring a lawyer who depends on conspiracy theories is not going to help them at all.

  39. 39.

    Renie

    Saw someplace on twitter that one of the news agencies (I think CNN) paid the landlord $1,000 to open the door. Anyone else hear anything like this.

  44. 44.

    Anoniminous

    @Mnemosyne (tablet):

    Our Christmas movie is Lion in Winter, the original 1968 version with Peter O’Toole and Katherine Hepburn. We were given the 2003 remake with Patrick Stewart and Glenn Close, credible but no where near as good.

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    BillinGlendaleCA

    The local news says the Feds released the apartment. They did show pictures of the landlord, I assume, removing a board over the door with a crowbar. So it was a bit more than simply unlocking the door, the door was boarded up.

  49. 49.

    sneezy

    @jl:

    I disagree with Salmon
    [that] “information is hugely valuable before it has been reported”

    Pretty sure Salmon is just speaking as a self-involved media douchebag. The only “value” he has in mind is that of a “scoop” and the “value” it has to a reporter. Once it’s been reported, no other reporter can get the “scoop,” and so in these terms, it then becomes worthless.

    This of course is not the real value that information has to anyone other than self-involved media douchebags, but he’s not talking about that.

    The so-called “reporters” pawing through the apartment in San Bernardino possibly did destroy or at least contaminate information of real value, but he’s not talking about that, either.

  50. 50.

    TheMightyTrowel

    OT Greetings from the sydney qantas lounge where the champagne is drinkable and free. I don’t have time now to regale you but i had a close encounter of the MotU variety on wed and the more i think about it the more surreal it gets. God bankers are weird and repellant.

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