I’ve done you all the courtesy of installing a camera in my living room so you can watch my reaction to the debates live.
Against my better judgment, I’ll probably be tweeting during this shitshow.
This post is in: Election 2016, Just Shut the Fuck Up, Serenity Now!
I’ve done you all the courtesy of installing a camera in my living room so you can watch my reaction to the debates live.
Against my better judgment, I’ll probably be tweeting during this shitshow.
Comments are closed.
raven
WTF-K?
raven
These “candidates” best not be checkin her trailer hitch while she sings the natural anthem.
dmsilev
It’s Tribble-top vs. Opossum-hair right out of the gate.
BillinGlendaleCA
Wolf is moderating? This will suck.
BillinGlendaleCA
Hey, Joisey Whale; mothers work too. Asshole.
raven
NO, Carly!
ThresherK
The tweeting is not the “against better judgment” part; the watching is.
I don’t know if just reading this and a liveblog elsewhere may be not enough layers between myself and the source.
BillinGlendaleCA
jeb? really is low energy.
raven
@BillinGlendaleCA: This fucking Cuban talks fast. Little punk.
ed_finnerty
i never noticed Rubio’s dumbo ears before
Central Planning
I didn’t realize Obama totally destroyed the United States and the entire military.
Central Planning
Cruz – “We’ll keep America safe.”
Me – Like 9/11?
Relax
Up and on! The green light is flashed to “go”.
HAMMERTIME begins, fuckers.
raven
Please join me in a moment of science for the viccims in San Berdoo.
Baud
@Central Planning: Twice, apparently.
Roger Moore
@Relax:
No, no, no! It’s “Stop! Hammertime!”
BillinGlendaleCA
So Dr. Ben wants Congress to declare war on ISIS, so does the President. Heh!
MomSense
@ThresherK:
I don’t know if I have another debate in me. The candidates are dreadful. Plus I’m out of wine.
oldgold
Wow, all 9 opening statements were really awful.
Lee
OT:
Flint has dangerous levels of lead in their water
W…T….F!
Apparently they are claiming the government knew prior to switching the water supply.
Relax
Jeb needs to interrupt and parry here.
Central Planning
Wolf – all have different approaches to keeping the country safe. Really? We’ll hear 9 different approaches?
Relax
Here we go!
dmsilev
Tens of thousands of cellphones with ISIS flags on them? Err, what?
Central Planning
I need to stop posting here about the debate. There is too much stupidity there. This could easily be a 1000+ post thread.
MomSense
@Roger Moore:
Wo oh oh oh oh oh oh oh.
Doing the dance in my mind because I’m way too comfy on the couch to get up.
Relax
“Chaos Candidate”. Jeb hits hard!
Baud
@Central Planning: I can’t watch right now, so it’ll probably only be about 50 posts.
raven
I didn’t think the pukes were going to let Wolfie attack each other. Fat ass will jump Wolfie for this shit!
Anoniminous
Bailing
I’ve lost 50 IQ points and we’re barely started.
raven
@Relax: He’s dumber than you if that is possible.
Relax
Jeb: a serious leader for serious times, Trump left speechless.
Trump? U can’t touch this…
MomSense
@Relax:
Seriously? Are you going to do this the whole debate? I admire your devotion but your candidate is a doofus.
SFAW
@Anoniminous:
You sure that’s not from reading comments from “Relax, I’m a Racist”? That might do it.
Central Planning
Kaos candidate? We need Maxwell Smart.
ThresherK
@raven: And more boring than Jeb, per reliable reports.
ETA More reportage.
raven
@MomSense: The pie filter is at the bottom of the page.
Central Planning
@Anoniminous: Everyone in this room is now dumber
daverave
@MomSense:
Rookie mistake…
ETA: +2
dmsilev
Hugh Hewit: More Reagan worship, dammit!
SFAW
@Central Planning:
And if we’re lucky, he’ll bring the Cone of Silence for “Relax, I’m a Racist”
Mike J
@Central Planning: Missed it by –><— that much.
Baud
Jeb can be the Hammer Time candidate.
I’m the candidate who likea big butts and cannot lie.
raven
@SFAW: The Craw!
Relax
@SFAW:
“Racist” has become as meaningless a political term as “fascist”.
dmsilev
Carly: “Steve Jobs handed me my corporate ass ten years ago. I still haven’t forgotten”
raven
@Baud: You should have been behind the vocalist!
GregB
@raven:
Damn that was some desperate, hokey and strange stuff.
Central Planning
@SFAW:
It’s nice to have a dream…
redshirt
@Relax: Sweet!
*shuffles furiously*
SFAW
@raven:
Not “Craw.” Craw!
MomSense
@Baud:
I think you mean big mutts!
Mike J
@dmsilev:
That why Republicans hate Syrians?
Central Planning
There was an letter to the editor this morning which stated he wasn’t angry, he was scared. People should be more scared of heart disease than muslims/democrats/liberal elites/Obama.
raven
@SFAW: The Craw!
SFAW
@Relax:
Perhaps, but you haven’t proved you’re a fascist yet (at least, not that I’ve seen), only that you’re a racist.
Shana
What the hell is wrong with Carly’s mouth? Did she have some bad plastic surgery?
amk
” I’ll probably be tweeting during this shitshow.”
chicken.
raven
MomSense
@daverave:
I think I’ve figured out my problem.
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Relax
@SFAW:
Racist racist racist racist … That’s all your side has after eight failed years of Obama/Hillary.
raven
@Shana: Chrome trailer hitch.
GregB
Fuck, Rubio is a smug war mongering prick who talks about the days of yore like he’s a 90 year old from the Depression Era.
Central Planning
A glass of wine should help make this tolerable. And by this, I don’t mean the company here.
Elie
@MomSense:
I’ve headed for a shot of vodka… I don’t know how long I can hang with this….
Baud
@MomSense:
My anaconda don’t want none unless you’ve got mutts hun.
Arm The Homeless
Ok, which one of you deviants has been pilfering horses? I thought we agreed to cut that out at our last coffee klatch?
Amir Khalid
@Shana:
Prob’ly went a smidge overboard with the Botox.
Central Planning
@Elie:
I guess we’re drinking buddies tonight. Not sure where you are, but if you can get your hands on some 1911 vodka, you’ll be doing pretty good.
MomSense
@Elie:
You may need to do something more drastic like a lobotomy.
SFAW
@raven:
Under the overpass?
Central Planning
Does anyone really believe the government won’t collect all the data they want, especially if they are tracking terrorists?
Shana
@Central Planning: Hubby and I are having Moon Over Manhattans, 1/2 a shot of amaretto in a regular Manhattan. Yum.
Arm The Homeless
@Baud:
So, fellas! (Yeah!) Fellas! (Yeah!)
Has your girlfriend got the mutt? (Hell yeah!)
Tell ’em to shake it! (Shake it!) Shake it! (Shake it!)
Shake that healthy mutt!
I will show myself out now…
raven
@SFAW: I see what you did there.
Mike J
Gruniad on Kasich:
If Kasich can factor the products of huge primes in some sort of reasonable time, he should forget about polictics and go collect his Fields medal.
Central Planning
@Shana: That sounds delicious. Just a glass of Coppola merlot here.
burnspbesq
Just. Can’t. Would rather listen to “Metal Machine Music.”
SFAW
@Relax:
Hey, if the shoe fits, Racist. Good to see you’re still denying it. You wingnuts are nothing if not unwilling to accept reality.
Roger Moore
@Baud:
So you’re Honest Mix-a-Lot?
raven
I’m sure our blog host is just all tingly about the cute booze conversation.
Baud
@Mike J: Prime numbers are a liberal plot!
Central Planning
Carson, the complainer. What a WATB.
MomSense
Oh my gosh look at her mutt. Look at her mutt.
Look at look at look at her mutt.
Central Planning
@Baud:
Are you still running for president? You should pledge to eliminate all prime numbers.
MomSense
@Relax:
He’s about to talk!!
Mike J
@Central Planning: The Republican candidates are the not ready for prime number players.
Baud
@Central Planning: Why? I’m liberal. Prime numbers are a critical component of my plot.
Betty Cracker
I went out with a friend and had a lovely dinner. Just got home and started watching the shitshow. What an absurd spectacle. What a bunch of hysterical, brain dead ninnies.
Relax
Trump being frozen out, missing in action! Loving it!
redshirt
@raven: Like he reads anything here.
Central Planning
@Baud: That will appeal to the low-info voters
Baud
@Betty Cracker: C’mon. We’re not that bad.
seaboogie
I am really digging Carly’s necklace – tres subtle!
Peale
@burnspbesq: They should auto-tune their voices.
Chyron HR
Has Jeb! been declared President yet? #HammerTime #Hekeptussafe #Jeb’llfixit #killelderlyblackwomen
raven
“our internet”
Baud
@Central Planning: They do love their primes.
Central Planning
Close down portions of the internet? Using “our” internet? The stupid, it burns.
raven
Are you open to closing. . .
Mike J
@seaboogie: For those of us preserving brain cells, what is it?
Mandalay
Fiorina: sour, depressing, miserable, bitter and nasty.
Why on earth would anyone vote for her?
raven
@Mandalay: 27%!
Baud
@Central Planning: Did they name check Balloon Juice?
Leto
Source sends pic of scene at Jeb Miami debate-watching party:
https://twitter.com/mateagold/status/676946951854825472
amk
Mrs. Betty Bowers @BettyBowers 1m1 minute ago
If Trump wants to close portions of the Internet to make us safer from angry, crazed zealots, his Twitter would be a good start. #GOPDebate
Central Planning
@Baud:
There’s a case that could be made for shutting that section down.
raven
Stupid fuckin Cuban uses Iraq as an example of what we should do.
Heliopause
Trump and Kasich want to penetrate Isis. Going for the horny-straight-cis-male vote. Stunning.
redshirt
@seaboogie: What is it? A necklace of fetal skulls?
Baud
@Central Planning: Isn’t that what the whole site redesign was all about?
seaboogie
@Mike J: A big azzz crucfix.
Central Planning
@Baud: Government plot? Carpet bombed the server.
daverave
Trump wins the internet again!
SiubhanDuinne
@BillinGlendaleCA:
Truly, had forgotten he was even on the stage.
That statement is literally true.
amk
Diane N. Sevenay @Diane_7A 5m5 minutes ago
“I’ll build a wall around the internet!” #GOPDebate
scav
Our internet? Shit, Do we have to clear all printed information through Germany because of Movable Type? Or did that lapse when we went fully digital?
Mike J
@seaboogie: Kasich already proved they take math really seriously. Now Fiorina wants you to look at what they did to that guy with a plus sign!
Mandalay
Cruz was asked about killing innocent civilians with his policy of carpet bombing ISIS. Cruz ducked the question and ran the other way.
The spineless fucker knows very well that a gazillion innocent people would be killed by his policy but he lacks have the guts to acknowledge it.
SiubhanDuinne
@raven:
Fuck you, Raven I just spewed a whole mouthful of red wine all over my iPad screen. Dammit.
GregB
@raven: @raven:
He’s a Canadian!
amk
for relax, the racist
Source sends pic of scene at Jeb Miami debate-watching party:
7:38 AM – 16 Dec 2015
Peale
@Mandalay: No even a “Governments rule by the consent of the governed so if you’re living there, you are part of ISIS.”
Leto
Cruz knows that carpet bombing is a war crime, right? Nevermind, doesn’t give a sh#t.
Jim, Foolish Literalist
Fascinates me that Christie uses his experience as a prosecutor to argue his strength a war chieftain and terr-rist killer. He does know who got bin Laden after Bush got out of the way.
(I’m just looking at some tweets, I can’t watch these people live”
Baud
@amk: Haha.
seaboogie
@Heliopause:
Can’t decide which of their gestures are weirder – Trump’s “short-fingered vulgarian” dainty/pouty index finger making his points, or Kasich’s karate chops.
SiubhanDuinne
@MomSense:
I have wine. But the candidates are certainly dreadful.
Iowa Old Lady
@amk: For just a moment, that made me feel sorry for Jeb. Thanks a bunch.
Relax
Get back to Trump v Bush that’s the real contest.
amk
Sally J. Johnson @sallyjayjohnson 5m5 minutes ago
miraculous but true: these candidates know less about how the Internet works than the female reproductive system. #GOPDebate
Arm The Homeless
Who doesn’t like a good Internet penetration?
Maybe that’s exatly what Daesh needs, some good ole fashioned American, digital penetration.
amk
@Iowa Old Lady: heh, 30 mil can go only thus far. what a fucking loser.
Relax
Another hammer DROPS
misterpuff
Flat out racist.
Betty Cracker
Trump weirdly resembles a bloated, dissipated Ted Koppel.
Relax
A hammer drops…
Baud
I didn’t think Jeb could pull it off, but he’s really shining up there.
Central Planning
If a hammer drops at a debate and nobody hears it, do Jeb’s poll numbers increase?
Felonius Monk
Star light, star bright,
The first star I see tonight;
I wish I may, I wish I might,
Have a meteor hit The Venetian tonight.
Mandalay
@Mandalay: …and now Trump ducks the issue of killing innocent civilians when going after ISIS.
Eventually those chickens are going to come home to roost.
Betty Cracker
Goddamn, Carson is a strange dude.
Mike J
@Baud:
Is he using liquid or paste shine?
beltane
That wasn’t a hammer dropping, it was my dog farting. Old labs will do this from time to time.
beth
Clearly, Jeb’s word today from his word of the day calendar was “serious” .
Jacel
@burnspbesq: How about Lou Reed’s final album, which I call “Mellow Machine Music”?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hudson_River_Wind_Meditations
Baud
@Mike J: I’m serious. Relax was right. It is Hammer time.
Arm The Homeless
Hey, John, can we fumigate the lolz troll? He’s getting a bit heated and I am afraid he is going to pee on the rug again
Central Planning
@Arm The Homeless: I think John’s busy tweeting
Bobby Thomson
@Relax:
I fixed that for you.
amk
Lindsay Ellis @thelindsayellis 7m7 minutes ago
We’ve reached the “how do you rationalize killing innocent civilians” portion of the evening. #GOPDebate
Jim, Foolish Literalist
@Baud: If they gave Jeb a hammer, it’d bounce off this thumb and hit him in the nose.
Like Curly.
GregB
Let’s have a moment of silence for the kids heads Ben Carson has opened up?
SFAW
Did a mod delete Racist’s “slut daughter” comment, or did he do it himself?
Central Planning
@Jim, Foolish Literalist: Curly was funny.
Iowa Old Lady
@Arm The Homeless: He made an unbelievably offensive comment a few minutes ago and now it’s gone. So fumigation may be in progress.
@SFAW: That’s the comment I was referring to.
ETA: OTOH, Trump, Cruz, and Carson are trying to outdo one another in bragging about killing children, so maybe offensiveness is relative.
Baud
They bent the rules to let Rand on the stage, and now they are giving him a ton of time. Interesting.
Mike J
@Jim, Foolish Literalist: Oh, a wiseguy!
Baud
@efgoldman: Who else should we do it to?
Mandalay
@Mandalay: …and Carson finally states the obvious – that the cost of bombing the shit out of ISIS is a lot of dead innocent people, but he believes that it is necessary. I don’t agree with him, but the man was straight talking.
The pundits probably won’t acknowledge (or even realize) it, but Carson just shamed the cowardly duo of Trump and Cruz.
Baud
@Mike J: Nyuk, nyuk, nyuk.
SiubhanDuinne
@GregB:
Step 1: They hate me when I tell them I have to slice open their head.
Step 2: ???
Step 3: They LOVE me!!!
Mike J
@efgoldman: I’m chatting on our internet while drinking and watching a UW lecture on robotic decision making and control.
Felonius Monk
Woe is America if any of these klowns gets with 10 blocks of the White House.
MomSense
@SiubhanDuinne:
I remembered that I have moose tracks ice cream in the freezer. It’s the next best thing.
Arm The Homeless
@Baud:
A wise guy, eh?
Here, pick two fingers
Bobby Thomson
@Baud: I knew at some point he would go home and get his fuckin’ shine box.
seaboogie
The split screens with Trump and Jeb! or Rand et al are pretty damn entertaining. Trump is so middle-school bully with all of the faces that he pulls, and the others are like “you have to be fucking kidding me”. Jeb handled himself well in the sally a bit a ago.
Baud
Wow. Jeb really is invisible.
SFAW
@Mike J:
I, for one, will NOT welcome our Robot Overlords, even if they DO learn how to make decisions.
Omnes Omnibus
@Mike J: I am watching the 1996 PBS rock history doc on YouTube.
dmsilev
Did Carly Fiorina just endorse Hillary Clinton for President? A bold, unconventional strategy for the GOP primary.
Arm The Homeless
@Iowa Old Lady: Yeah, he went Full Trump. You never go Full Trump
Baud
“The warrior class”
I would also bring back dragons to Westoros.
Shana
@Mike J: Damn man, that’s some serious [email protected]Mike J:
Felonius Monk
@efgoldman:
Cause we ran out of pizza and beer.
Heliopause
“Bring back the warrior class.” Easy, Carly.
SFAW
@MomSense:
I’ll be right over. You can’t be more than, what, 3 hours away?
dmsilev
“When something didn’t work in New Jersey, people look at me. Because, chances are, it was my fault.”
Baud
“When something doesn’t work in New Jersey, they look at me.”
I wonder why.
mai naem mobile
He got a bunch of glitter and glitter bombed himself. Also too I heard a joke about Cruz today – hes so far in the closet his name should be Tom. Another random thought – Julianne Margulies could play Carly in Game Changer Double Down if she uglies herself up some. Nathan Lane to play Ted Cruz.
Baud
My strategy to defeat ISIS is to win!
dmsilev
@Baud: “Mr. President, we must not allow a
mineshaftdragon gap!”Central Planning
@Baud: His girth makes it impossible to see anything else.
Baud
Carson bringing it with the foreign geography!
Mandalay
@dmsilev:
The Clinton camp are probably already building an ad around Fiorina’s vapid sound bite.
Debbie
Nope, still there in all its slutitude.
Central Planning
Is there anything that would let me see replies without having to click refresh?
Gin & Tonic
@Baud: Because he spends more time in New Hampshire than New Jersey.
Baud
@Central Planning: Not yet. The new comment system is suppose to auto-reload.
lamh36
Shorter everyone after hearing Trump’s “close the Intenet” answer
“That’s not how this works…”
Felonius Monk
I certainly hope that the stage doesn’t collapse under the weight of all the bullshit that’s being spread.
ETA: OTOH, maybe that would help narrow the field.
Baud
@lamh36: Haha.
Central Planning
@Baud: I liked the live stream we had during one of the presidential debates. John, do one of those again.
Damn, missed my chance to refill.
Jim, Foolish Literalist
Has Wolf brought up the 10,000+ (per Chris Hayes last night) bombs we’ve already dropped on ISIS?
SiubhanDuinne
@Omnes Omnibus:
I thought that was me s’posed to be watching that.
Mike J
@Shana: It’s a high level overview with no actual code. A nice buzz actually helps.
Elie
The whole thing is just buzz word salad — meaningless throwing around of terms and half baked ideas loaded with emotion and pseudo-structure. Rubio to my mind, still makes his word salad sound almost acceptable — he has the right tone and cadence — but his knowledge is superficial. Trump and Cruz are in their own fantasies. Kasich, Bush, trying to break in. The dynamics have not changed from the previous debate. No one has the cojones to take on Trump without fear. Jeb tries a little parry, but its just not strong enough. They leave Trump alone — again. It will be up to the primaries to take Trump out… nothing will happen to move him till then and depending on how the others manage the ground game, they still may have Trump as their nominee…
MomSense
@SFAW:
I’ll save you a spoon.
trollhattan
@burnspbesq:
Side 3 was my favorite.
Mandalay
Apart from Carson (who refuses to sink so low) they’ve all worked out that it’s easy to loftily sneer at the opinion offered by the previous speaker regardless of what it was, or whether it’s in line with their own views.
What a worthless bunch of shits.
Amir Khalid
Test
Omnes Omnibus
@SiubhanDuinne: More than one can do it. Jeez.
Mike J
@Omnes Omnibus: The one in ten minute chunks? Howzabout a link to the playlist?
mai naem mobile
A little Barbie or Ken doll could do Olympic style ski jumps off Ted Cruzs nose. They could even end up smack in Wolf Blitzers beard.
Omnes Omnibus
@Mike J: Wait a sec…
Jim, Foolish Literalist
How absurd is GOP rhetoric on ISIS? Megan McArdle is mocking it.
Amir Khalid
@SFAW:
It would appear the comment was deleted, and so was the commenter (at least temporarily).
Mandalay
@Elie:
Sarah Palin was asked to do word association for the candidates and she absolutely nailed Rubio: “scripted”.
Mike J
@Omnes Omnibus: As the germans say, donkey shines.
Arm The Homeless
@Amir Khalid:
You’ve passed, please send your check for certification to:
Baud 2016 c/o Arm The Homeless. Thanks!
NotMax
@Iowa Old Lady
Racist, anti-Semitic and misogynistic?
HatHood trick.Baud
I’ve been listening for about 10-15 minutes, and not a word from Jeb.
mai naem mobile
It can handle a lot of sheet because they’re all such lightweights.
Thoughtful Today
…
It’s weird reading Clinton supporters breathlessly following every phrase and expression at the _Republican_ debates.
It’s almost like debates are … important.
Baud
Trump wins the reasonableness award!
misterpuff
Trump just called the ME a 5 Trillion Clusterfuck
divF
The level of vitriol in this debate leaves something to be desired. I’m waiting to hear JEB call The Donald an “asslicking poseur”, or something equally emphatic.
Omnes Omnibus
@Mike J: Here you go. Unfortunately, part of the Stax section is muted for Copyright reasons.
Central Planning
@Baud: Did he just ratfck himself?
FlyingToaster
@Elie:
Ground Game????? In Ioway, that’s been outsourced to the evangelicals. In New Hampshire, it doesn’t exist; each candidate has to visit the central diner in each town in order to have a prayer at their 18 votes.
Going by Boston-area broadcast tv, they’re relying on air power, and nearly-extinct newspaper endorsements. I predict whoever wins NH will have under 25% of the vote.
MomSense
That was weird. Trump said we should have spent the Iraq war billions on schools, roads, hospitals here. Audience applauds. Carly scolds Trumo for sounding just like Obama. Audience confused.
NotMax
@mai naem
This being the current crop of G.O.P. candidates, make that a Klaus Barbie doll.
Felonius Monk
@Betty Cracker:
Yeah, some audience. And the candidates are even worse.
Omnes Omnibus
@Omnes Omnibus: Here. Tech diffs.
Baud
@efgoldman: I’ve got no ulcer. We’ll have a good candidate on our side, whoever wins the nomination. When solutions are easy, there is no point in stressing.
Baud
Jeb speaks!!!
mai naem mobile
Karly the Klown is an idiot and displays GOP idiocy perfectly. So if Obama said getting Osama was awesome she has to disagree with that.
burnspbesq
@Leto:
You think it’s an accident that the United States is now the only country that hasn’t ratified the Rome Statute? Accountability for war crimes is for the little people.
Chris
@Elie:
All of them are afraid to take on Trump, because all of them know the base agrees with him.
misterpuff
These clowns are tripping over their own dicks on the Middle East, er, except Jeb, forever defending his brother.
CaseyL
I’m not watching – just reading the comments and Tweets for entertainment.
My brother will be moving to Norway because he got a job there. I wonder if he could sponsor me in, should one of these pinheads gets elected.
Mandalay
Jeb!: Getting rid of Saddam Hussein was a good thing, but then Obama fucked it up.
Jager
Trump just railed about the money spent and the chaos in the middle east, he sounded half assed reasonable and was immediately compared to Hillary by Carly. What a shit show.
burnspbesq
@Jacel:
How about 4’33”?
Central Planning
I’m going to Berlin in February. I should be wetting my pants because of all those immigrants Angela is taking in.
Baud
Nobody tells Cruz to wait his turn!
Old Dan and Little Anne
Cut a mic for fuck’s sake.
Central Planning
@burnspbesq: My kids roll their eyes at me when I say I would TOTALLY go see 4’33” if the local orchestra played it.
ETA – I would make them come too.
Betty Cracker
I’m trying to decide whose voice is more annoying: Cruz or Paul. Cruz’s is horridly adenoidal, but Paul’s is so prissy.
Bobby Thomson
@Baud: FSM, I hope not. The auto-reload is a clusterfuck and makes the site freeze up constantly.
Gin & Tonic
@Central Planning: The point, of course, was for it to be live. “Recordings” are pointless.
Anne Laurie
New thread up top, if you’re tired of scrolling down…
Elie
@Mandalay:
Oh I agree that the “word salad” is just that… but he delivers it more smoothly than the others. Why oh why do these folks avoid Trump? He is a complete idiot that would be ripe for the taking but instead they focus on each other or Hillary/Obama. Trump talks about “our internet” and the ability to control the internet similar to how China does… and he gets away with it! Kasich tried to push back on the sense that anyone could “own” the net, but he didn’t spank Trump or laugh at him…
This is going to end in the same place— Trump.
SFAW
@MomSense:
I was going to get the cah warmed up, then noticed the lack of “ful” attached to that spoon.
When I move up there (one of these days, I hope), I’ll try to make sure I save you some. Which brand do you prefer? Ben & Jerry?
divF
From the Guardian liveblog.
Ya think ?
(I’ve decided to just skip the primary material and monitor the blogs instead.)
Central Planning
@Gin & Tonic: I played a youtube version for the wife and kids one night. They couldn’t believe such a thing existed.
rikyrah
@Lee:
There was nothing wrong with Detroit’s, but the right-wing is so determined to say that everything in Detroit is wrong.
Plus, they had put in an Emergency Manager.
I heard about this MONTHS AGO, and still, they haven’t switched back to Detroit.
Amir Khalid
@burnspbesq:
Can you recommend a good recording of 4’33”?
Anoniminous
@Mike J:
This one?
Felonius Monk
Good poll question: Who do you fear the most, ISIS or the Republican Presidential candidates?
mai naem mobile
OMG OMG OMG kasich has blue tie and no flag pin. Is he sooper sekret musleen?
Omnes Omnibus
@Amir Khalid: This link is a very good one.
Central Planning
@Amir Khalid: This one is interesting because of the commentary.
Mandalay
Fiorina is laying down preconditions before she will even speak to the leaders of Russia or Iran.
What a total fucking amateur/idiot.
mai naem mobile
Could Chris Christie handle a no fry zone?
burnspbesq
@Central Planning:
Someday, if Mad ever parodies Gramophone, there will be a listeners’ guide to 4’33” that explains in detail the tempo choices made by various conductors.
Chyron HR
@Thoughtful Today:
How can we miss you if you won’t fuck off?
Jim, Foolish Literalist
@Chyron HR: and once again the shadowy and secretive Balloon Juice commentariat pretends it does not control the Democratic Party. As fucking if.
MomSense
@SFAW:
I was thinking the debate is so crazy we would have to just eat right out of the carton.
Amir Khalid
Leaving aside for a moment the fascinating discussion of 4’33”:
While there has been somewhat more substance in this Republican candidates’ debate than in the previous ones, I can’t say I’m any more confident than before that any of them is equipped to lead the foreign-policy line.
Thoughtful Today
misterpuff: “Trump just called the ME a 5 Trillion Clusterfuck “
MomSense: “Trump said we should have spent the Iraq war billions on schools, roads, hospitals here.”
Too few realize how well calibrated Trump’s election strategy really is.
Be clear: Those are GENERAL Election strategies, it simultaneously condemns Hillary for voting for the Iraq War while co-opting _Bernie’s_ issues of investing in free State College education, infrastructure, and health care.
^ Thing I’ve tried to explain to Clinton supporters as having more support among Republicans than they’ve ever been capable of understanding.
burnspbesq
@Amir Khalid:
I was hoping one of them would say that they would go all Suarez on al-Baghdadi.
SFAW
@MomSense:
OK, I’m with you.
But I gotta be up early to get my kid on the school bus, so I won’t have time to go up your way tonight. Even though the debate might go long enough.
yet another jeff
Carson has a lot of stories…what brand new hospital with no staff?
yet another jeff
@Mandalay: And then denying that she will refuse to speak to leaders if they don’t meet preconditions.
Amir Khalid
@burnspbesq:
Bite’em onna neck! Yeah!
yet another jeff
Someone replaced Kasich’s arms with Muppet arms some time after the first debate.
Mandalay
Rand Paul says nobody in the Middle East is doing anything about Syrian refugees….
And Rubio is shitting his pants about the United States taking ten thousand refugees – about 1% of what Lebanon has done.
Thoughtful Today
…
Clinton supporter talking to Bernie supporter: “How can we miss you if you won’t fuck off?”
Clinton supporter making.shit.up about what a Bernie supporter actually said.
Clinton supporter ridiculing the notion of having a _debate_ … in a democratic society.
Very … Trumpian.
Amir Khalid
@Mandalay:
No no no, you don’t get it. To Rand Paul, the people of the Middle East are nobodies.
Heliopause
Carson: Kim is starving his own people, and we should capitalize on that.
As Jesus commanded.
Omnes Omnibus
@Thoughtful Today: Proof that those people are Clinton supporter? Links?
Emma
@Thoughtful Today: Bernie supporter to Clinton supporter: “If Hillary gets the nomination, I won’t bother to vote.”
Bernie supporter spreading Republican talking points about Clinton.
Etc., etc. Two (or more) can play that game.
And before you explode, I’m neither a Clinton or a Sanders supporter. I am a Democratic nominee supporter and will crawl over broken glass to vote for whichever wins the nomination.
Arm The Homeless
@Emma
Fuggin-A!
SCOTUS noms have turned me into a strategic voter. The Bernie fans I know completely agree. I guess we know the vector for the Puma v. 2.0
MomSense
@SFAW:
It’s all a blur now. They are on a loop of I’m so strong Obama Clinton so weak. Then all of a sudden they want to punch Russia in the nose or start a nuclear war.
Renie
Did I miss something and President Obama is running for office? They all keep talking about him as if he is a candidate.
Heliopause
Reince Pubis?
Renie
Can someone explain how Christie has made American safe since 911? And even though it may not be p.c to say this but Carly is a bitch
Thoughtful Today
Emma,
Hillary is the best Republican in the country. Hands down.
Omnes Omnibus
@Thoughtful Today: What is Hillary’s party registration?
ETA: Learn to link your replies. It is not complicated. You just click a button.
Emma
@Thoughtful Today: I’ll take her over any of the clowns in that debate.
Thoughtful Today
And Emma, you _literally_ did what I was objecting to about Clinton supporters, inventing a quote and attributing it to a Bernie supporter.
It’s sleazy, what I think of as, “Clintonian”.
Don’t assume your … Clintonian … dishonesty and rudeness will play well in the General Election against Trump. It’ll likely backfire. Badly.
Amir Khalid
@Thoughtful Today:
Does Hillary ever say anything as shallow and uninformed as what you’ve heard from the Republican candidates tonight?
Omnes Omnibus
@Thoughtful Today: Link your damned replies. Is standard blog conduct beneath you?
Emma
@Thoughtful Today: Funny. That quote was said to me, directly, by a Sanders supporter — two bumper-stickers in the car and all.
And one bit of advice about insulting someone. You need a certain finesse and rhythm to do it properly. You lack them wholly.
Omnes Omnibus
@Emma: FWIW common opinion around here is that TT is ratfucker, not a real Bernista.. May or may not be true. The unwillingness to directly respond, etc. comes into play. Anyway, your judgment – just bear it in mind.
Poptartacus
Trump, trump trump TRUMPITY trump it’s lke a drumbeat across the land. He will crush the enemies of the faithful and make America great again
Thoughtful Today
Emma, your quote appears attributable to me. It’s clearer to say:
A Clinton supporter called me a “ratfucker” today.
cmorenc
@Felonius Monk:
It’s only the last block that you have to worry about. The other nine are so easy anyone can do it.
Thoughtful Today
…
“Does Hillary ever say anything as shallow and uninformed as what you’ve heard from the Republican candidates tonight?”
Yes.
Hillary claimed bank regulations were inconceivable because of 9/11.
Hillary claimed free State College education was inconceivable because Trump’s children might take advantage of it. (After it was widely reported Trump’s kids all went to private Universities, she _repeated_ that sleazy talking point).
And a Syrian no-fly zone? … It seemed like a massive failure to understand geopolitics. But, hey, I also recognize her vote for the Iraq War as leading to largely predicted chaos in the entire region and one of the (many) dominoes that led to Syria being invaded by Daesh.
Omnes Omnibus
@Thoughtful Today: Come on. Talk directly to me. Anyway, I merely mentioned a consensus. I didn’t call you anything.
You support Bernie? Engage in debate and discussion. Not innuendo and bad faith. Moi, I think that Sanders is above your level of innuendo slinging, so I doubt that he would approve of you.
Thoughtful Today
FTR: I’m using NoScript with a deleted whitelist, that means scripty benefits like the “Reply” button and instant-editing don’t work, but my [Back-button] does. And no, I don’t expect to turn scripts back on.
Thoughtful Today
To be clear:
Giuliani’s invocation of 9/11 was grossly repulsive. Hillary using 9/11 to champion deregulated banks was even more grotesque.
Hillary condemning free State College’s because of the _lie_ that Trump’s kids might use it was particularly surreal as an educated polity would be more resilient to demagogues like Trump (but might also not fall for 9/11.bank.deregulation illogic).
Militant knee-jerk responses by Hillary _did_ leave a trail of dead bodies that are _still_ piling up in Iraq and now Syria. Her failure to connect the dots in Syria, a long-time Russian ally, with her ‘no-fly’ advocacy, illustrated _consistently_ bad foreign policy judgement.
Still, best Republican in the country, based on _policies_.
Clear?
John Cole
@redshirt:
Blow me. As to Raven’s concerns, I’m a non drinker. Other people drink and even talk about it. It doesn’t people bother me in the least. I don’t drink because I choose not to, and hearing people talk about it isn’t going to change that.
Stephen
Worst game of soggy biscuit ever.
sukabi
It’s unlikely that those responsible for changing the water supply to the river didn’t know, seems like they would have to test the water BEFORE making the switch, especially since the river was discontinued as a supply due to pollution.
Since general motors stopped using the water in their facilities, the city and state were more than likely made aware at that time that there was a serious problem. I can’t imagine that GM wouldn’t have said something, or that the loss of revenue from a major facility bringing in it’s own water wasn’t questioned by someone in gov.
sukabi
@Leto: so is torture, really think they give a damn?
raven
@John Cole: Sorry bubba, didn’t mean to bigfoot you.