Come for the politics, stay for the snark.

One way or another, he’s a liar.

Oh FFS you might as well trust a 6-year-old with a flamethrower.

Today’s gop: why go just far enough when too far is right there?

Sadly, media malpractice has become standard practice.

Compromise? There is no middle ground between a firefighter and an arsonist.

Fear or fury? The choice is ours.

Every reporter and pundit should have to declare if they ever vacationed with a billionaire.

I have other things to bitch about but those will have to wait.

White supremacy is terrorism.

Republicans want to make it harder to vote and easier for them to cheat.

“When somebody takes the time to draw up a playbook, they’re gonna use it.”

A thin legal pretext to veneer over their personal religious and political desires.

If you tweet it in all caps, that makes it true!

A democracy can’t function when people can’t distinguish facts from lies.

Reality always lies in wait for … Democrats.

The republican ‘Pastor’ of the House is an odious authoritarian little creep.

If America since Jan 2025 hasn’t broken your heart, you haven’t loved her enough.

Fight for a just cause, love your fellow man, live a good life.

The Supreme Court cannot be allowed to become the ultimate, unaccountable arbiter of everything.

Everything is totally normal and fine!!!

I am pretty sure these ‘journalists’ were not always such a bootlicking sycophants.

Jesus, Mary, & Joseph how is that election even close?

It is not hopeless, and we are not helpless.

Welcome to day five of every-bit-as-bad-as-you-thought-it-would-be.

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To quote another top Twitter flavor-of-the-moment, “a wretched hive of scum and villainy”…

Guardian liveblog here: http://www.theguardian.com/us-news/live/2015/dec/15/cnn-republican-presidential-debate-december-15

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  5. 5.

    SiubhanDuinne

    I just watched most of the kids’ table “debate” and honestly, I have never seen such fraidy-cat pants-pissing in my life. Can hardly wait for the big kids to weigh in.

    Edit: Although I will stand well clear of them.

  15. 15.

    Anoniminous

    From Guardian live blog:

    Maybe I’ll bring some weapons with me” to #GOPDebate, Ben Carson quips:

    Ben Carson: stand up comic

  17. 17.

    Schlemazel

    Here is a better choice than the ‘crawl across puss-covered broken glass’ posing as debate:
    reddit has a new sub “Donald and Hobbes” they take regular Calvin & Hobbes strips & replace Calvin with the Dumpster. Many are way too funny

  21. 21.

    Adam L Silverman

    @SFAW: more along the lines that since Epicurius was the first epicurean he was likely round. Which is, I should point out, a shape.

  23. 23.

    dmsilev

    RNC PR BS firing up the crowd with an inspiring speech about competent national party infrastructure.

  24. 24.

    SiubhanDuinne

    @efgoldman:

    I don’t pay a cable bill. I don’t even own a working TV. I wrapt have debates and a very few other things streaming on my iPad.

    Edit before hitting submit: I have no earthly idea why fuck you autocorrect decided to turn “watch” into “wrapt have,” but ours not to reason why. (Also wanted to turn “fuck you” into “funky,” but I was more alert that time.)

  26. 26.

    Patricia Kayden

    Nope! There are too many better ways to spend a Tuesday night. Plus, I’m anti-torture. Y’all can tell me what the Clown Car Occupants let fly out of their mouths.

  27. 27.

    Leto

    @raven: I didn’t know Rancid Penis had that big of a bald spot. That thing was YUUUGE!

    Edit- dmsilev: I lol’d at that too.

  29. 29.

    SFAW

    @Adam L Silverman:

    Yes, Adam, I got it the first time. (Although it’s “Epicurus,” no second “i.”)

    You do realize that I was attempting a Trump-like response, right? (Although unlike Jeb, Trump probably knows who Epicurus was.)

  31. 31.

    dmsilev

    Panel suddenly realizes that after babbling for twenty minutes, they’ve completely ignored Bush.

    Hammered!

  32. 32.

    SiubhanDuinne

    @amk:

    Believe it or not, they still do. These kids are stubborn. They absolutely know they’re not allowed to play with the big kids, but they refuse to just go home and get out of the way. It’s kind of fascinating if you’re a psychoanthropopathologist.

  38. 38.

    Thoughtful Today

    …

    Debating debates…

    Barack’s win in 2008 is largely attributable to the myriad Democratic Party debates, you can list any number of other factors, but I absolutely believe those debates were crucial to his winning the General Election.

    Hillary’s is politically savvy enough to recognize she is gambling the Presidency by rejecting debates even while it helps her in the Primary.

    That’s how I see Hillary Clinton: Willing to gamble the countries future for her own advancement.

    Thoughts?

  45. 45.

    Jeffro

    I know, right?
    That opening montage was so ridiculous I’m still having trouble processing it…like this is UFC or something. The exact opposite of what a thinking, sensible country would put on.

  49. 49.

    Adam L Silverman

    @SFAW: not in the least. I’m watching a repeat of The Flash of Two Earths episode of The Flash. Then its The Curse of Oak Island. And I’ve got every episode of Into the Badlands to binge on too!

  50. 50.

    SFAW

    @Baud:

    There are some cultures I’d like destroyed. Can you hook me up?

    Wingnuttery is not a “culture,” by the way. Except the sort that grows in a Petri dish.

  54. 54.

    Anne Laurie

    From the Guardian:

    Vocalist Ayla Brown is back, this time to sing the national anthem (before she sang God Bless America).

    She’s good. CNN chryons her as a singer/entertainer.

    Just out of curiosity, did CNN mention she’s there because Scott “Cosmo Boy” Brown is her daddy?

  55. 55.

    Felonius Monk

    @efgoldman:

    but Oak Island is really a bridge too far.

    Not as far as

    Hilter’s Alive and Well and Living in South America

    .or whatever it’s called.

  57. 57.

    Adam L Silverman

    @efgoldman: I read that same Reader’s Digest write up about the Oak Island money pit when I was in elementary school. Its a great legend so I watch the show. I also watch Finding Bigfoot, Mountain Monsters – largely because I think John Cole is Buck (has anyone seen them together? I didn’t think so…), and Alaska Monsters. They’re so bad, they’re good.

  59. 59.

    SFAW

    @Felonius Monk:

    Hilter’s Alive and Well and Living in South America

    I was wondering how he keeps churning out all those YouTube vids. I guess they have the Intertubez in South America?

  63. 63.

    Adam L Silverman

    @Mnemosyne (iPhone): They have them on sale here, for the greenwise organic ones at Publix, for 8.99 a pound? Does that help?

    More seriously, almost any decent cut of meat is going to cost. There are a couple of choices, but I need to know how many people you are trying to feed.

  65. 65.

    NotMax

    @Mnemnosyne

    Eye Round Roast.

    Almost as good? Not really.

    But good in its own right for a less expensive cut? Absolutely.

    Tougher cut but can come out very tender and juicy when cooked with the the high temp/oven off method for rib roast. Vital that meat be at room temp before being put into the oven.

    (Costco usually has standing rib roasts at high but less than sticker shock prices, BTW. But buy the non-preseasoned one.)

  67. 67.

    NotMax

    @NotMax

    Oh, and always let the meat, after cooked, rest, loosely tented with foil for at least 10 – 15 minutes before slicing. Otherwise, majority of juices will run out and meat will be tough.

  68. 68.

    Mnemosyne

    @Adam L Silverman:

    I haven’t been happy with the quality of the beef at Vons (aka Safeway) or Ralphs (aka Kroger), so I usually end up at Whole Foods. They were quoting me $100 for 4 ribs, which is why I had the heart attack.

    They have a dry-aged beef rib eye roast that looks nice and is $25 for 3 pounds (I’m feeding 7, including a teenage boy). I don’t mind spending a bit, it was the $100 price tag that freaked me out.

    @NotMax:

    I don’t necessarily need to go bargain basement — I’d be willing to pay $30 or $40. It was the $100 price tag that I choked on.

  71. 71.

    Adam L Silverman

    @Mnemosyne: Okay, that helps a bit. And $100 for 4 ribs is nuts. Here’s what I recommend. Get a brisket. Get a whole one in the cryovac. Do not have them open it or trim it. I can’t speak for prices where you’re at (California, right?), but down here I can get a whole brisket for no more than $60. It will easily feed the seven folks you’ve got coming when you throw in the other items you’ll be serving. I usually go to Costco for my briskets, and I don’t know if that’s an option for you. I won’t set foot in Whole Foods, but that’s just me.

    Another option, if you can get to a Costco/have a Costco membership, is to get a rib primal. It’ll come cryovac and depending on whether you get Prime or Choice it’ll run you between 60 and 110. Basically you’ve got both ends and the middle of the rib. I’ll occasionally get one and cut it into about 7-10 ribeyes and then freeze them until I’m ready to use them. You can cut this in half at and use half of it as a standing roast, it just won’t have the bones, which really doesn’t make that big a difference. And then either cut the remainder into steaks or freeze the other half until you want to roast it.

    Another option would be to roast a leg of lamb. Depending on how big you go, and whether you go bone in or boneless, it should run between 40 and 60ish.

    A final option would be to see if you can get a good price on a whole beef tenderloin. Here too Costco is a good place to get it. If so you can make Beef Wellington without too much trouble. Just get some puff pastry sheets and decide on how you want to season the meat or go with the reverse sear method of cooking it low to start, then letting it rest, then blasting it for about ten minutes at 500 to give the outside a nice crust.

    If you let me know what you think you want to do, I can probably recommend how to prep and cook.

    PS – I made the small (one bone) standing rib roast this evening. I tried the reverse sear method that Goblue72 had linked to in the comments last night. It worked well, and I have pics for a future post, but I do need to get a new and good quality meat thermometer! I had to basically wing it by time… Came out fine, but not what you want to do with that type of meat preparation.

  72. 72.

    NotMax

    @Mnemosyne

    Dunno if you are a member or are near Costco (or have a buddy who is), but pretty sure their holiday price on prime rib roast was $7.99/lb. unseasoned, $8.99 pre-seasoned.

    Eye Round Roast can still be found (may take some searching) at the regular market at $3.99 – $4.99./lb.

    Both top sirloin and top round roasts can vary in quality so much depending on the market, the supplier, whether flash chilled or not, etc. that it’s become a dice roll, at least here. That and the modern propensity to remove as close to 100% of the fat as possible. Gotta have some for flavor and tenderizing while cooking.

  73. 73.

    Adam L Silverman

    @Mnemosyne: Another option is to make stracotta/Italian pot roast. Its actually quite an elegantly done dish. You’d likely need to double or triple my recipe, but it should still be affordable.

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