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Las Vegas Warm-Up Open Thread

by Anne Laurie|  December 15, 20158:19 pm| 73 Comments

This post is in: Election 2016, Open Threads, Republicans in Disarray!

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Worst Cirque du Soliel show on the strip. pic.twitter.com/u99esqZHSw

— Bob Schooley (@Rschooley) December 15, 2015

To quote another top Twitter flavor-of-the-moment, “a wretched hive of scum and villainy”…

Guardian liveblog here: http://www.theguardian.com/us-news/live/2015/dec/15/cnn-republican-presidential-debate-december-15

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  1. 1.

    Adam L Silverman

    December 15, 2015 at 8:20 pm

    I just hope its not the Cirque de Soleil show they do in the nude…

  2. 2.

    SFAW

    December 15, 2015 at 8:24 pm

    @Adam L Silverman:
    Well, considering that The Donald is in the most excellent health of any would-be President, evah!, and so must have the body of an Olympic athlete …

  3. 3.

    beltane

    December 15, 2015 at 8:25 pm

    @Adam L Silverman: God help us but Donald Trump would totally go for that. The man has no shame.

  4. 4.

    FlyingToaster

    December 15, 2015 at 8:25 pm

    @Adam L Silverman: Goddam it, where’s the brain bleach?!?

  5. 5.

    SiubhanDuinne

    December 15, 2015 at 8:26 pm

    I just watched most of the kids’ table “debate” and honestly, I have never seen such fraidy-cat pants-pissing in my life. Can hardly wait for the big kids to weigh in.

    Edit: Although I will stand well clear of them.

  6. 6.

    Gin & Tonic

    December 15, 2015 at 8:26 pm

    @beltane: Makes me wonder if he has another comb-over, other than the one on his head.

  7. 7.

    redshirt

    December 15, 2015 at 8:27 pm

    Has Hammer Time started yet? I’ve got my baggy pants and am stretched out, ready to dance.

  8. 8.

    Adam L Silverman

    December 15, 2015 at 8:28 pm

    @SFAW: more like the body of Epicurius…

  9. 9.

    BruceFromOhio

    December 15, 2015 at 8:28 pm

    @FlyingToaster: Flamethrower, stat. Or a couple of quarts of 91 octane.

  10. 10.

    SFAW

    December 15, 2015 at 8:28 pm

    @Gin & Tonic:

    As long as he doesn’t try to demonstrate that he has a hair across his ass about something …

  11. 11.

    Adam L Silverman

    December 15, 2015 at 8:28 pm

    @efgoldman: As @FlyingToaster: said, for that I’d need brain bleach!

  12. 12.

    Baud

    December 15, 2015 at 8:29 pm

    When people say Jesus died for our sins, this is what they’re talking about.

  13. 13.

    dmsilev

    December 15, 2015 at 8:29 pm

    @redshirt: I’m planning on getting hammered from watching this. Does that count?

  14. 14.

    SFAW

    December 15, 2015 at 8:29 pm

    @Adam L Silverman:

    That’s right! He’s EPIC! And YUUUUGE!

  15. 15.

    Anoniminous

    December 15, 2015 at 8:29 pm

    From Guardian live blog:

    Maybe I’ll bring some weapons with me” to #GOPDebate, Ben Carson quips:

    Ben Carson: stand up comic

  16. 16.

    SiubhanDuinne

    December 15, 2015 at 8:29 pm

    @Gin & Tonic:

    Okay, that is officially the most revolting thing that has EVAH been posted in any comment EVAH in any thread EVAH on this blog.

  17. 17.

    Schlemazel

    December 15, 2015 at 8:30 pm

    Here is a better choice than the ‘crawl across puss-covered broken glass’ posing as debate:
    reddit has a new sub “Donald and Hobbes” they take regular Calvin & Hobbes strips & replace Calvin with the Dumpster. Many are way too funny

  18. 18.

    Anoniminous

    December 15, 2015 at 8:32 pm

    Wonder if Wolfsie baby will ask a question about the Paris Climate accord.

  19. 19.

    raven

    December 15, 2015 at 8:33 pm

    hahahaha Rience is starting.

  20. 20.

    Gin & Tonic

    December 15, 2015 at 8:33 pm

    @SiubhanDuinne: Why, thank you, thank you very much. I aim to please.

  21. 21.

    Adam L Silverman

    December 15, 2015 at 8:33 pm

    @SFAW: more along the lines that since Epicurius was the first epicurean he was likely round. Which is, I should point out, a shape.

  22. 22.

    beltane

    December 15, 2015 at 8:33 pm

    @Gin & Tonic: There are some things we should never, ever contemplate. That is one of them.

  23. 23.

    dmsilev

    December 15, 2015 at 8:33 pm

    RNC PR BS firing up the crowd with an inspiring speech about competent national party infrastructure.

  24. 24.

    SiubhanDuinne

    December 15, 2015 at 8:34 pm

    @efgoldman:

    I don’t pay a cable bill. I don’t even own a working TV. I wrapt have debates and a very few other things streaming on my iPad.

    Edit before hitting submit: I have no earthly idea why fuck you autocorrect decided to turn “watch” into “wrapt have,” but ours not to reason why. (Also wanted to turn “fuck you” into “funky,” but I was more alert that time.)

  25. 25.

    amk

    December 15, 2015 at 8:35 pm

    @SiubhanDuinne: they still have that table?

  26. 26.

    Patricia Kayden

    December 15, 2015 at 8:37 pm

    Nope! There are too many better ways to spend a Tuesday night. Plus, I’m anti-torture. Y’all can tell me what the Clown Car Occupants let fly out of their mouths.

  27. 27.

    Leto

    December 15, 2015 at 8:37 pm

    @raven: I didn’t know Rancid Penis had that big of a bald spot. That thing was YUUUGE!

    Edit- dmsilev: I lol’d at that too.

  28. 28.

    Felonius Monk

    December 15, 2015 at 8:38 pm

    Hey RELAX, I think Jeb? already lost.

  29. 29.

    SFAW

    December 15, 2015 at 8:38 pm

    @Adam L Silverman:

    Yes, Adam, I got it the first time. (Although it’s “Epicurus,” no second “i.”)

    You do realize that I was attempting a Trump-like response, right? (Although unlike Jeb, Trump probably knows who Epicurus was.)

  30. 30.

    Eric S.

    December 15, 2015 at 8:38 pm

    @Gin & Tonic: I want disturbed by the imagery until now. I think I’ll order another beer.

    Make that “wasn’t disturbed”

  31. 31.

    dmsilev

    December 15, 2015 at 8:38 pm

    Panel suddenly realizes that after babbling for twenty minutes, they’ve completely ignored Bush.

    Hammered!

  32. 32.

    SiubhanDuinne

    December 15, 2015 at 8:39 pm

    @amk:

    Believe it or not, they still do. These kids are stubborn. They absolutely know they’re not allowed to play with the big kids, but they refuse to just go home and get out of the way. It’s kind of fascinating if you’re a psychoanthropopathologist.

  33. 33.

    Adam L Silverman

    December 15, 2015 at 8:40 pm

    @SFAW: Sorry, was distracted.

  34. 34.

    Baud

    December 15, 2015 at 8:41 pm

    @SiubhanDuinne:

    It’s kind of fascinating if you’re a psychoanthropopathologist.

    You misspelled psychopath.

  35. 35.

    Adam L Silverman

    December 15, 2015 at 8:42 pm

    @SiubhanDuinne: @Baud: I know a couple psycho anthropologists if that helps.

  36. 36.

    dmsilev

    December 15, 2015 at 8:42 pm

    CNN: OOOGAA OOOOGAAA BEEEE VEEERRRRYYY AFFFFRAAAAIIIIDDDD

  37. 37.

    SFAW

    December 15, 2015 at 8:42 pm

    @Adam L Silverman:

    Yeah, watching a train wreck or car crash seems to distract people. The Rethug debate not being that far removed from a train wreck. Well, for Jeb?!?, that is.

  38. 38.

    Thoughtful Today

    December 15, 2015 at 8:43 pm

    …

    Debating debates…

    Barack’s win in 2008 is largely attributable to the myriad Democratic Party debates, you can list any number of other factors, but I absolutely believe those debates were crucial to his winning the General Election.

    Hillary’s is politically savvy enough to recognize she is gambling the Presidency by rejecting debates even while it helps her in the Primary.

    That’s how I see Hillary Clinton: Willing to gamble the countries future for her own advancement.

    Thoughts?

  39. 39.

    SFAW

    December 15, 2015 at 8:43 pm

    @Adam L Silverman:

    I’m not an anthropologist, but outside of that …

  40. 40.

    Baud

    December 15, 2015 at 8:44 pm

    @Thoughtful Today: thoughts. Yeah. You haven’t been missed.

  41. 41.

    redshirt

    December 15, 2015 at 8:44 pm

    @dmsilev: I can’t touch that.

    *shuffles*

  42. 42.

    Adam L Silverman

    December 15, 2015 at 8:44 pm

    @SFAW: I can’t watch it.

  43. 43.

    Baud

    December 15, 2015 at 8:45 pm

    @Adam L Silverman: Excellent. There are some cultures I’d like destroyed. Can you hook me up?

  44. 44.

    raven

    December 15, 2015 at 8:45 pm

    These “candidates” best not be checkin her trailer hitch!

  45. 45.

    Jeffro

    December 15, 2015 at 8:47 pm

    I know, right?
    That opening montage was so ridiculous I’m still having trouble processing it…like this is UFC or something. The exact opposite of what a thinking, sensible country would put on.

  46. 46.

    Adam L Silverman

    December 15, 2015 at 8:47 pm

    @Baud: possibly

  47. 47.

    SFAW

    December 15, 2015 at 8:47 pm

    @Adam L Silverman:

    No peeking!

  48. 48.

    scav

    December 15, 2015 at 8:47 pm

    @Thoughtful Today: Have you considered dropping hammers?

  49. 49.

    Adam L Silverman

    December 15, 2015 at 8:49 pm

    @SFAW: not in the least. I’m watching a repeat of The Flash of Two Earths episode of The Flash. Then its The Curse of Oak Island. And I’ve got every episode of Into the Badlands to binge on too!

  50. 50.

    SFAW

    December 15, 2015 at 8:49 pm

    @Baud:

    There are some cultures I’d like destroyed. Can you hook me up?

    Wingnuttery is not a “culture,” by the way. Except the sort that grows in a Petri dish.

  51. 51.

    Roger Moore

    December 15, 2015 at 8:49 pm

    @Thoughtful Today:

    Thoughts?

    Not from you, apparently.

  52. 52.

    SFAW

    December 15, 2015 at 8:50 pm

    @Adam L Silverman:

    Sounds like a plan. Enjoy!

  53. 53.

    NotMax

    December 15, 2015 at 8:51 pm

    So, who’s working on the lyrics for Maxwell’s Jebbie’s Silver Hammer?

  54. 54.

    Anne Laurie

    December 15, 2015 at 8:55 pm

    From the Guardian:

    Vocalist Ayla Brown is back, this time to sing the national anthem (before she sang God Bless America).

    She’s good. CNN chryons her as a singer/entertainer.

    Just out of curiosity, did CNN mention she’s there because Scott “Cosmo Boy” Brown is her daddy?

  55. 55.

    Felonius Monk

    December 15, 2015 at 8:57 pm

    @efgoldman:

    but Oak Island is really a bridge too far.

    Not as far as

    Hilter’s Alive and Well and Living in South America

    .or whatever it’s called.

  56. 56.

    NotMax

    December 15, 2015 at 8:57 pm

    @Anne Laurie

    Déjà spew.

  57. 57.

    Adam L Silverman

    December 15, 2015 at 8:57 pm

    @efgoldman: I read that same Reader’s Digest write up about the Oak Island money pit when I was in elementary school. Its a great legend so I watch the show. I also watch Finding Bigfoot, Mountain Monsters – largely because I think John Cole is Buck (has anyone seen them together? I didn’t think so…), and Alaska Monsters. They’re so bad, they’re good.

  58. 58.

    Adam L Silverman

    December 15, 2015 at 8:58 pm

    @Felonius Monk: I watch that too!

  59. 59.

    SFAW

    December 15, 2015 at 8:58 pm

    @Felonius Monk:

    Hilter’s Alive and Well and Living in South America

    I was wondering how he keeps churning out all those YouTube vids. I guess they have the Intertubez in South America?

  60. 60.

    NotMax

    December 15, 2015 at 9:00 pm

    Currently have The Grand Seduction on in the background.

    Gentle, low-key Canadian comedy.

  61. 61.

    Mnemosyne (iPhone)

    December 15, 2015 at 9:00 pm

    @Adam L Silverman:

    So I may not be making an actual rib roast for Christmas because I looked at the price from Whole Foods and Holy Mother of God is that shit expensive. Any advice on another almost-as-good cut of beef?

  62. 62.

    Felonius Monk

    December 15, 2015 at 9:01 pm

    @Adam L Silverman: Maybe that’s a clue. Does anyone know the last time the Trumpster went to South America? That could be where he got Hitlerized.

  63. 63.

    Adam L Silverman

    December 15, 2015 at 9:05 pm

    @Mnemosyne (iPhone): They have them on sale here, for the greenwise organic ones at Publix, for 8.99 a pound? Does that help?

    More seriously, almost any decent cut of meat is going to cost. There are a couple of choices, but I need to know how many people you are trying to feed.

  64. 64.

    Adam L Silverman

    December 15, 2015 at 9:06 pm

    @Felonius Monk: I’m planning on reading Mein Coif.

  65. 65.

    NotMax

    December 15, 2015 at 9:16 pm

    @Mnemnosyne

    Eye Round Roast.

    Almost as good? Not really.

    But good in its own right for a less expensive cut? Absolutely.

    Tougher cut but can come out very tender and juicy when cooked with the the high temp/oven off method for rib roast. Vital that meat be at room temp before being put into the oven.

    (Costco usually has standing rib roasts at high but less than sticker shock prices, BTW. But buy the non-preseasoned one.)

  66. 66.

    Leto

    December 15, 2015 at 9:24 pm

    Pic of scene at Jeb Miami debate-watching party:

    https://twitter.com/mateagold/status/676946951854825472

  67. 67.

    NotMax

    December 15, 2015 at 9:53 pm

    @NotMax

    Oh, and always let the meat, after cooked, rest, loosely tented with foil for at least 10 – 15 minutes before slicing. Otherwise, majority of juices will run out and meat will be tough.

  68. 68.

    Mnemosyne

    December 15, 2015 at 10:01 pm

    @Adam L Silverman:

    I haven’t been happy with the quality of the beef at Vons (aka Safeway) or Ralphs (aka Kroger), so I usually end up at Whole Foods. They were quoting me $100 for 4 ribs, which is why I had the heart attack.

    They have a dry-aged beef rib eye roast that looks nice and is $25 for 3 pounds (I’m feeding 7, including a teenage boy). I don’t mind spending a bit, it was the $100 price tag that freaked me out.

    @NotMax:

    I don’t necessarily need to go bargain basement — I’d be willing to pay $30 or $40. It was the $100 price tag that I choked on.

  69. 69.

    Mnemosyne

    December 15, 2015 at 10:03 pm

    Never mind on the dry-aged — that turns out to be $100, too. Stupid expensive cows.

  70. 70.

    Mnemosyne

    December 15, 2015 at 10:07 pm

    @NotMax:

    They have top sirloin or top round at $8.99/lb. I could live with that price.

  71. 71.

    Adam L Silverman

    December 15, 2015 at 10:15 pm

    @Mnemosyne: Okay, that helps a bit. And $100 for 4 ribs is nuts. Here’s what I recommend. Get a brisket. Get a whole one in the cryovac. Do not have them open it or trim it. I can’t speak for prices where you’re at (California, right?), but down here I can get a whole brisket for no more than $60. It will easily feed the seven folks you’ve got coming when you throw in the other items you’ll be serving. I usually go to Costco for my briskets, and I don’t know if that’s an option for you. I won’t set foot in Whole Foods, but that’s just me.

    Another option, if you can get to a Costco/have a Costco membership, is to get a rib primal. It’ll come cryovac and depending on whether you get Prime or Choice it’ll run you between 60 and 110. Basically you’ve got both ends and the middle of the rib. I’ll occasionally get one and cut it into about 7-10 ribeyes and then freeze them until I’m ready to use them. You can cut this in half at and use half of it as a standing roast, it just won’t have the bones, which really doesn’t make that big a difference. And then either cut the remainder into steaks or freeze the other half until you want to roast it.

    Another option would be to roast a leg of lamb. Depending on how big you go, and whether you go bone in or boneless, it should run between 40 and 60ish.

    A final option would be to see if you can get a good price on a whole beef tenderloin. Here too Costco is a good place to get it. If so you can make Beef Wellington without too much trouble. Just get some puff pastry sheets and decide on how you want to season the meat or go with the reverse sear method of cooking it low to start, then letting it rest, then blasting it for about ten minutes at 500 to give the outside a nice crust.

    If you let me know what you think you want to do, I can probably recommend how to prep and cook.

    PS – I made the small (one bone) standing rib roast this evening. I tried the reverse sear method that Goblue72 had linked to in the comments last night. It worked well, and I have pics for a future post, but I do need to get a new and good quality meat thermometer! I had to basically wing it by time… Came out fine, but not what you want to do with that type of meat preparation.

  72. 72.

    NotMax

    December 15, 2015 at 10:21 pm

    @Mnemosyne

    Dunno if you are a member or are near Costco (or have a buddy who is), but pretty sure their holiday price on prime rib roast was $7.99/lb. unseasoned, $8.99 pre-seasoned.

    Eye Round Roast can still be found (may take some searching) at the regular market at $3.99 – $4.99./lb.

    Both top sirloin and top round roasts can vary in quality so much depending on the market, the supplier, whether flash chilled or not, etc. that it’s become a dice roll, at least here. That and the modern propensity to remove as close to 100% of the fat as possible. Gotta have some for flavor and tenderizing while cooking.

  73. 73.

    Adam L Silverman

    December 15, 2015 at 10:50 pm

    @Mnemosyne: Another option is to make stracotta/Italian pot roast. Its actually quite an elegantly done dish. You’d likely need to double or triple my recipe, but it should still be affordable.

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