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You are here: Home / Economics / C.R.E.A.M. / Friday Evening Open Thread: Sen. “Shakedown” Shelby, Still A Sh*theel

Friday Evening Open Thread: Sen. “Shakedown” Shelby, Still A Sh*theel

by Anne Laurie|  December 18, 20155:25 pm| 70 Comments

This post is in: C.R.E.A.M., Open Threads, Republican Venality, Ever Get The Feeling You've Been Cheated?

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So, while we Democrats spend our time screaming at each other & ginning up petitions, the Repubs are busy trying to destroy the economy, same as they always are. The “omnibus” budget has passed both houses, and Paul Ryan reaps the credit, much good may it do him. Here’s a Politico story from last night on one of the GOP avatars of shamelessness:

Sen. Richard Shelby loaded up the $1.1 trillion spending bill with pet provisions, including one measure worth hundreds of millions to a rocket manufacturer with operations in his home state.

The cagey lawmaker also fought hard for language protecting red snapper fisheries on Alabama’s Gulf Coast, even issuing a news release bragging about his efforts. “That is why I fought tirelessly for several provisions to be included in the omnibus appropriations bill that I believe will help respond to the serious challenges facing anyone who wants to fish for red snapper in the Gulf,” Shelby said in the release.

But in an only-in-Congress twist, Shelby, a very senior member on the Appropriations Committee, still plans to vote against the sprawling omnibus package. He’s citing the lack of language to restrict Syrian refugees as the reason.

The move, however, could make the Republican senator the unofficial chairman of the “hope yes, vote no” caucus on Capitol Hill. It also demonstrates the potency of immigration as an electoral issue in Alabama and the power of Shelby’s fellow home-state senator, Republican Jeff Sessions, over the controversial topic in the Southern state.

GOP insiders note that Alabama’s Republican primary is on March 1, and Shelby is loath to do anything that would create distance between him and Sessions on immigration before that date.

Sessions, the hardest of hard-liners on immigration issues, has warned that passage of the omnibus is part of a plan by President Barack Obama — with the tacit acceptance of Speaker Paul Ryan (R-Wis.) and Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell (R-Ky.) — to resettle tens of thousands of potentially dangerous Syrian refugees in the United States…

It’s wrong to wish harm upon others, but if Senators Shelby and Sessions were to challenge each other to a mutually fatal bout of pistols at dawn, I would find it poetically fitting.
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Apart from the constancy of Repub dishonesty, what’s on the agenda as we wrap up the week?

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  1. 1.

    DaveL

    December 18, 2015 at 5:33 pm

    pistols at dawn

    Better: grenades at five feet.

  2. 2.

    redshirt

    December 18, 2015 at 5:34 pm

    Ultimately that’s good politics.

    If pork were still thrown to Congresspeople we’d have a semi-functioning Congress, because that is their job – help the people/region they were elected by.

  3. 3.

    SteveinSC

    December 18, 2015 at 5:37 pm

    “So, while we Democrats spend our time screaming at each other & ginning up petitions…” Well, if people at the DNC would quit fucking around with Bernie Sanders’ mailing list, then maybe we could get back to calling out Repukes.

  4. 4.

    eemom

    December 18, 2015 at 5:38 pm

    It’s wrong to wish harm upon others

    Well, to paraphrase the old song, if wishing harm is wrong, I don’t wanna be right. I devoutly wish poverty, misery, sickness and death upon every elected official in this country with an R after their name, every one of their enablers in the judiciary, and every one of their gazillionaire donors.

    And while I’m at it, let me repeat that I would dearly love to see Wayne LaPierre and all of his filthy, blood-soaked ilk SHOT IN THE FACE with one of their precious assault rifles.

    A girl can dream.

  5. 5.

    ThresherK (GPad)

    December 18, 2015 at 5:43 pm

    We were offered an inordinately generous sum to total-out our crashed-into car, plus also coverage of the rental until it’s replaced. I’m turning that into a somewhat used Volvo soon.

  6. 6.

    redshirt

    December 18, 2015 at 5:45 pm

    @eemom: An NRA meeting getting shot up would be pretty ironic.

  7. 7.

    Chris

    December 18, 2015 at 5:45 pm

    Open thread so… I don’t see a post about site problems on the front page so maybe it’s on Page 2 but I can’t get there. When I click on the arrows or the little numbers at the bottom of the page it just goes to the front page even though the address bar says Page 2 or Page 2991.

    (Ubuntu Linux 15.04, Chrome)

  8. 8.

    sparrow

    December 18, 2015 at 5:49 pm

    Nathaniel Pearlman, co-founder of NGP VAN, which manages the master file for the DNC database, was also chief technology officer for Hillary Clinton’s 2008 presidential campaign.

    I am Bob’s complete lack of surprise.

  9. 9.

    Baud

    December 18, 2015 at 5:50 pm

    @sparrow: It’s a conspiracy!

  10. 10.

    BillinGlendaleCA

    December 18, 2015 at 5:50 pm

    @redshirt: Especially since NRA meetings are gun free zones.

  11. 11.

    sparrow

    December 18, 2015 at 5:50 pm

    @eemom: I understand what you’re saying, but I try not to give in to hate. It makes me too much like them. I rather wish for a speedy and sincere realization of the damage they have done with their entire lives. A worse punishment, if it were but possible.

  12. 12.

    BGinCHI

    December 18, 2015 at 5:53 pm

    Both Senators can afford to buy substitutes, so just as their class of patriot did during the Civil War, they would just have someone else fight their battle.

    Assholes.

  13. 13.

    BillinGlendaleCA

    December 18, 2015 at 5:54 pm

    @Baud: The N and the P in NGP probably stands for Nathaniel and Pearlman, the plot thickens…

  14. 14.

    Mnemosyne

    December 18, 2015 at 5:54 pm

    There’s something other than “Star Wars” happening this weekend? You wouldn’t know it from my office. Of course, we’re all a bunch of entertainment geeks working in entertainment, so that only amplifies it.

    And my fellow Hamimaniacs know what to listen for in “Star Wars,” right?

  15. 15.

    Roger Moore

    December 18, 2015 at 5:55 pm

    @SteveinSC:

    Well, if people at the DNC would quit fucking around with Bernie Sanders’ mailing list, then maybe we could get back to calling out Repukes.

    If people in Bernie’s campaign didn’t try to steal information from Hillary, the mess never would have gotten started.

  16. 16.

    BillinGlendaleCA

    December 18, 2015 at 5:56 pm

    @Mnemosyne: Well, also you do work for GEC.

    ETA: I didn’t see the first Star Wars movies until roughly 8 years after they came out.

  17. 17.

    FlipYrWhig

    December 18, 2015 at 5:57 pm

    @Baud: We’re being persecuted by an overwhelming force arrayed against us! Donate now!

    also we were monkeying around with personal data belonging to another campaign but that’s not the real issue so shut up

  18. 18.

    Baud

    December 18, 2015 at 5:59 pm

    President Obama granted pardons to two people and commuted the sentences of 95 others on Friday, marking his most expansive use of the clemency power yet as his presidency enters its final year.

    The 95 commutations largely targeted prisoners convicted of drug-related crimes, many of whom received lengthy sentences for cocaine trafficking and possession in the 1990s. Commutations, unlike pardons, do not remove penalties like the loss of voting rights or jury service. But they still have a dramatic impact on the recipient’s life. All of the 95 inmates who received commutations, including 37 of them serving life sentences, will be released either on April 16 or December 18 next year.

  19. 19.

    redshirt

    December 18, 2015 at 6:01 pm

    @BillinGlendaleCA: I wonder why the gun lovers don’t froth and rage at the NRA making them leave their guns behind. Surely someone could bring up the… hypocrisy?

  20. 20.

    Baud

    December 18, 2015 at 6:02 pm

    @BillinGlendaleCA: I read somewhere that a lot of the startup data came from Hillary’s 2008 campaign. Probably also has Obama data.

  21. 21.

    BillinGlendaleCA

    December 18, 2015 at 6:02 pm

    It’s beginning to look like it may be a very cold(for us) and damp Christmas here in southern CA.

  22. 22.

    Baud

    December 18, 2015 at 6:03 pm

    The age of austerity in Washington is over.

    In a series of overwhelmingly bipartisan votes, the House and Senate gave final approval on Friday to an enormous package of new spending and tax breaks that will fund the federal government for the rest of the fiscal year and add hundreds of billions of dollars to the deficit over the next decade. The $1.15 trillion omnibus appropriations bill loosens spending caps that were put in place in 2011 when concerns over the nation’s budget shortfall were paramount. And the $622 billion tax measure makes permanent dozens of popular but costly credits and deductions that help both businesses and low-income individuals and families.

  23. 23.

    BillinGlendaleCA

    December 18, 2015 at 6:03 pm

    @Baud: It was the merger between two firms, NGP was Hilz 2008 data shop.

  24. 24.

    redshirt

    December 18, 2015 at 6:04 pm

    @Mnemosyne: I have never been more afraid of the Internet and media in general then I am now. I can’t see the new Star Wars until Wednesday, and I am very much opposed to getting spoiled.

    So I feel like my only choice is to shut almost everything down till then.

    Please don’t spoil me, BJ.

  25. 25.

    Baud

    December 18, 2015 at 6:05 pm

    @redshirt:

    Luke was dead the whole time.

  26. 26.

    redshirt

    December 18, 2015 at 6:07 pm

    @BillinGlendaleCA: Even though I live as far from So. California as possible within the lower 48, I’m always checking LA weather and wishing you all rain.

    So a Merry Damp Xmas to you all! Let the snowpack in the Sierras grow deep.

  27. 27.

    Baud

    December 18, 2015 at 6:07 pm

    @redshirt: You need to wish them snow.

    ETA: ah, I didn’t really read your whole comment.

  28. 28.

    redshirt

    December 18, 2015 at 6:07 pm

    @Baud: You just lost my vote.

  29. 29.

    Baud

    December 18, 2015 at 6:09 pm

    @redshirt: I’ll get it back after you see the movie.

  30. 30.

    redshirt

    December 18, 2015 at 6:09 pm

    California is the best state in the Union, by far, and I’m not even sure who’d be number 2 compared to the incredible awesomeness of CA.

    I’d move there if it weren’t so insanely expensive – and rightfully so. It’s the best place in America, maybe on Earth.

  31. 31.

    redshirt

    December 18, 2015 at 6:10 pm

    @Baud: Grrrrrr…..

  32. 32.

    Gin & Tonic

    December 18, 2015 at 6:14 pm

    @redshirt: Recycled Star Wars is better than recycled Mad Max. Discuss.

  33. 33.

    Mnemosyne

    December 18, 2015 at 6:17 pm

    @BillinGlendaleCA:

    “Star Wars” (I refuse to call it “A New Hope” or “Episode IV” or whatever friggin’ thing it is now) came out when I was 8, so I was pretty much the target audience.

    At least it’s getting good reviews — like most of my age cohort, I still remember the letdown that was “The Phantom Menace.”

  34. 34.

    redshirt

    December 18, 2015 at 6:18 pm

    @Gin & Tonic: The new Mad Max is getting heavy Oscar buzz and I’m willing to bet will be nominated for at least Best Picture and Best Director.

  35. 35.

    Roger Moore

    December 18, 2015 at 6:21 pm

    @redshirt:

    Even though I live as far from So. California as possible within the lower 48, I’m always checking LA weather and wishing you all rain.

    While I appreciate the intent, lots of rain here is a decidedly mixed blessing. Much of the water will just go down our rivers to the sea, since we don’t have much local water storage, and the more rain we get in a short time the more of it will go unused. Also, lots of rain has a tendency to cause debris flows in recent fire areas, which is decidedly not nice for the people living down slope. What we need more than anything is snow in the mountains, especially the Sierras.

  36. 36.

    FlipYrWhig

    December 18, 2015 at 6:21 pm

    @Baud: The first six Star Wars movies turn out to be the fantasy of a Confederate soldier in the moments before he’s hanged.

  37. 37.

    BillinGlendaleCA

    December 18, 2015 at 6:21 pm

    @Mnemosyne: I’ve only seen the 1st(in release order) three and I think the Phantom Menace. I was always more of a Trekkie anyway(I watched the original series when it aired).

    ETA: I should note that I’ve not seen a movie in a theater in 10 years, and that was only because the kid wanted to see one. Before that was during the first Clinton administration.

  38. 38.

    redshirt

    December 18, 2015 at 6:22 pm

    @Roger Moore: I get that, but it can only help though. Or are you all wishing against rain so as to avoid landslides and runoffs?

    Also, you are getting snow in the Sierras. I saw a satellite picture from a few days ago compared to a year ago. Big improvement.

    Go snow (in CA, not here in ME thank you very much)!

  39. 39.

    ThresherK (GPad)

    December 18, 2015 at 6:22 pm

    @FlipYrWhig: You run with a literate crowd ,dontcha?

  40. 40.

    Roger Moore

    December 18, 2015 at 6:23 pm

    @redshirt:

    I’m not even sure who’d be number 2 compared to the incredible awesomeness of CA.

    Some of the other Pacific states are pretty nice.

  41. 41.

    redshirt

    December 18, 2015 at 6:25 pm

    @Roger Moore: Is it Oregon that has the mail in voting? If so, maybe I’d put them at 2 and Washington at 3. Seriously, the entire Pacific Coast is the saving grace for this country.

  42. 42.

    BillinGlendaleCA

    December 18, 2015 at 6:27 pm

    @Roger Moore: Light to moderate rain does help here in the south; we do have local water storage that does refill when it rains here. Also, people water less when it rains and that helps conserve the supplies we need to import.

  43. 43.

    Roger Moore

    December 18, 2015 at 6:27 pm

    @redshirt:

    Or are you all wishing against rain so as to avoid landslides and runoffs?

    We’re mostly wishing for regular, moderate rain. 1-2″ per week every week between now and the end of April would do out water supply a lot of good without too much risk of debris flows. Any more than that will mostly wind up at sea anyway, and if we get one of the series of storms where we get heavy rain for many days in a row, we’ll have lots of debris flows.

  44. 44.

    Roger Moore

    December 18, 2015 at 6:30 pm

    @BillinGlendaleCA:

    Light to moderate rain does help here in the south; we do have local water storage that does refill when it rains here.

    We do, but it the best storage is in the local shallow water aquifers, and they need slow but steady to recharge. IIRC, Pasadena actually gets about half its water from the Raymond water basin, and might be able to get more once we clean up the perchlorate pollution from JPL.

  45. 45.

    BillinGlendaleCA

    December 18, 2015 at 6:30 pm

    @redshirt: I’ve lived in southern CA most of my life except for 3 years in Seattle. Both are great places. My only regret is not continuing the hiking I did as a teen into adulthood(I’ve started hiking again this year); I’d be in much better physical shape and scenery both here and in WA is incredible.

    ETA: Another regret is not taking more pics from my hiking when I was a teen, but film cameras…

  46. 46.

    Mike J

    December 18, 2015 at 6:31 pm

    The cagey lawmaker also fought hard for language protecting red snapper fisheries on Alabama’s Gulf Coast, even issuing a news release bragging about his efforts. “That is why I fought tirelessly for several provisions to be included in the omnibus appropriations bill that I believe will help respond to the serious challenges facing anyone who wants to fish for red snapper in the Gulf,” Shelby said in the release.

    Why do I get the feeling that the rider doesn’t do anything to protect the fisheries, but instead allows commercial interests to deplete it? Please note, this is only a guess, since I haven’t actually read it. I would be thrilled to learn that a Republican was pushing for reasonable caps on catch sizes. But I’m not stupid enough to believe they care about the long term health of anything until I actually see it in writing.

  47. 47.

    Mnemosyne

    December 18, 2015 at 6:31 pm

    @BillinGlendaleCA:

    I’m glad you mentioned this, because otherwise I would have had two damp and very unhappy teenagers on my hands at Disneyland tomorrow. Adding rain ponchos to my last-minute Target list.

  48. 48.

    NotMax

    December 18, 2015 at 6:32 pm

    @redshirt

    Heh.

    Some of us are unable (or unwilling) to see it until it is released on disc.

  49. 49.

    BillinGlendaleCA

    December 18, 2015 at 6:34 pm

    @Roger Moore: There’s also local reservoirs in the San Gabriels, but the aquifers are the lions share of local water storage.

  50. 50.

    BillinGlendaleCA

    December 18, 2015 at 6:35 pm

    @Mnemosyne: I’d take the panchos as precaution.

  51. 51.

    redshirt

    December 18, 2015 at 6:36 pm

    @NotMax: So I assume you accept you’ll be spoiled?

    They do have movie theaters in Hi, don’t they?

  52. 52.

    Applejinx

    December 18, 2015 at 6:36 pm

    @SteveinSC: That’s a snarky aside, put in because as a blogposter you can do that. You shouldn’t derail the thread just because somebody is trying to spin stuff, even if it’s a front pager.

    If we had to respond to every little dig anybody put in, we’d never get to have other topics, ever! :)

    Let the thread be about Shelby and let the extra spin pass.

  53. 53.

    Mnemosyne

    December 18, 2015 at 6:41 pm

    @BillinGlendaleCA:

    If I bring them, it won’t rain a drop. If I don’t, we’ll be scrounging garbage bags. This ain’t my first time at the theme park rodeo.

  54. 54.

    NotMax

    December 18, 2015 at 6:52 pm

    @redshirt

    Yes and yes, but not willing to become violently debilitated the next day. Tremendously allergic to something in the theaters here (as opposed to the ones they replaced). Become so ill that having Ted Cruz recite the collected works of Bulwer-Lytton would seem a balm.

    It’s been confirmed by someone in a position to know about these things that the particular pungent stench I describe and the acute symptoms which follow are a minority but not uncommon reaction and most likely due to the chemicals used for pest control.

    Haven’t set foot in a theater here in this century.

    As for spoilers, they don’t much bother me. Mentally compartmentalize and thence ignore them.

  55. 55.

    Mnemosyne

    December 18, 2015 at 7:04 pm

    I must be getting nervous about this whole Christmas hosting thing — last night I dreamed that ALL of my relatives (including ones who don’t actually exist) showed up while I was still in bed and demanded to know why dinner wasn’t ready yet and why I didn’t have holiday decorations up. For some reason, I had old birthday decorations up instead.

    (And G was a transgender woman, which he is not, but I chalk that up to dreams being where your brain puts weird shit in just because it can.)

  56. 56.

    NotMax

    December 18, 2015 at 7:11 pm

    @Mnemosyne

    Making me glad I’m one of those people who never ever remembers dreams.

  57. 57.

    Adam L Silverman

    December 18, 2015 at 7:22 pm

    @redshirt: This is an often under remarked upon issue. While the fact that both chambers’ institutional rules are in need of serious updating, and the GOP is functioning as a parliamentary party in a congress, the removal of pork barrel spending and earmarks has made things just that much more difficult. It removed the ability to grease the gears to move legislation by removing two of the tools to build non party, issue based coalitions to move legislation.

  58. 58.

    WereBear

    December 18, 2015 at 7:22 pm

    @Mnemosyne: Looking forward to hearing G’s reaction.

  59. 59.

    Adam L Silverman

    December 18, 2015 at 7:24 pm

    @BGinCHI: Sessions would need to. I’m not sure he’s big enough to handle a dueling pistol.

  60. 60.

    Adam L Silverman

    December 18, 2015 at 7:26 pm

    @redshirt: They do.

  61. 61.

    Mnemosyne

    December 18, 2015 at 7:29 pm

    @WereBear:

    He was sympathetic to my stress and promised to do more Christmas decorating today. He wasn’t really sure what to say about the other part. Honestly, I’m not sure what any husband could say to that other than, “Guh?”

  62. 62.

    Adam L Silverman

    December 18, 2015 at 7:32 pm

    @Mnemosyne: If he starts looking up surgical options in Telluride, CO or Sweden he’s figured the other part out…

    And no more nachos with triple jalapeños before bed!

  63. 63.

    Starfish

    December 18, 2015 at 7:34 pm

    This is the bill that has the new visa travel restrictions for Iranian, Iraqi, and Sudanese nationals. It needs to be burned down.

  64. 64.

    tybee

    December 18, 2015 at 7:56 pm

    @FlipYrWhig:

    Occurrence at Owl Creek?

  65. 65.

    Just One More Canuck

    December 18, 2015 at 8:35 pm

    @Baud: It was all a dream, and when he woke up, he told Emily all about it

  66. 66.

    Mike G

    December 18, 2015 at 9:40 pm

    How many immigrants want to move to their ignorant bigoted redneck state anyway?
    It’s frequently the people with the least exposure to immigrants who piss their pants the most about them.

    Just like the bible-thumper-dominated parts of the country soiling their church pants over “Sharia law”.

  67. 67.

    FlipYrWhig

    December 18, 2015 at 10:01 pm

    @tybee: ding

  68. 68.

    Steeplejack

    December 18, 2015 at 11:09 pm

    @Chris:

    The latest post on site issues is at the top under “About Balloon Juice | Site Maintenance.”

    As for getting older posts, you can use the date in a URL, e.g.:

    www.balloon-juice.com/2015/12/11

    That gets you all the posts from December 11.

  69. 69.

    Skippy-san

    December 19, 2015 at 2:28 am

    Shelby, my worthless piece of sh*t senator. Tha whole Alabama Congressional delegation is useless. My Congress man is a teabagger crazed loon who caters to other crazed loons. If you ever look hard at the Huntsville area you will find the region’s econmy exists on pork.

  70. 70.

    Anoniminous

    December 20, 2015 at 1:33 am

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