NFL Open Thread by Betty Cracker| December 20, 20151:15 pm| 81 CommentsThis post is in: Open Threads, SportsFacebookTweetEmailRan into some upload issues, so this is late, but here are my crappy picks: I hope the Giants beat the Panthers, but they probably won’t. Open thread!
I’m actually hoping the Panthers go undefeated so the 72 Dolphins can finally stuff it. And I can’t see Eli and crew standing in their way. Stranger things have happened however…
7-4, then 8-5, then 9-6 and then 7-6 (ech). That charming time of year when everyone quits playing. Yay. 31-21. .596.
Panthers over Giants. Patriots over Titans. Redskins over Bills. Chiefs over Ravens. Texans over Colts. Jaguars over Falcons. Vikings over Bears. Packers over Raiders. Seahawks over Brownies (Man, that’s just sad). Bengals over 49er’s. Dolphins over Chargers. Broncos over Steelers. Cardinals over Eagles. Saints over Lions (no. just no).
[‘Doing way better with the bowls than the NFL lately.’]
@Yutsano: If the Panthers win today, the only thing standing between the Seahawks and the playoffs is Cleveland.
@Yutsano: I hope the 72 Dolphins’ perfect season record stands forever! But I gotta say, Beckham Jr’s blatant assholery in this game so far is making it damn difficult to root for the G-men.
@Mike J: Playoff math, FSM save us – when else do you root for teams you would never otherwise root for? (Nothing against the Panthers, per se, but at some point we’ll need to beat them to get to the Super Bowl.)
ETA: My family were season-ticket holders during the Dolphin glory years. We were there for the Perfect Season, so I’m very fond of it. A whole year of going to school on Mondays and everyone, from Principal to students, being hoarse from shouting.
@CaseyL: A Washington loss also gets us in, and I can happily cheer against the racial slurs.
And yet, those Dolphins needed the Bills to miss a short field in the closing seconds to preserve that perfection. A Bills team that would have been 4-9-1 had they won the game.
“The Greatest Team of All-Time”, as I constantly hear them called, shouldn’t need luck to beat a genuinely shitty team.
ETA: Betty, I ask this as a Bills’ fan – why on Earth do you keep picking them? They’ll only break your heart.
You know I’m just learning about this stuff, a little patience, OK?
I see the Packers only have 3 more games to play this season and, if they are still the winners in the league, is that it? Do they automatically get the cup or are there a lot more hoops to jump through. Who gets to play at the Superbowl? Please guide me through the process.
Almost forgot – Go Packers. Annihilate those Raiders!
Reposting my comment from the other thread. For some reason my Seattle affiliate is showing the alleged “game” between the Titans and Patriots. My hope is that the moron who made this decision will wake up in a few minutes, notice what’s going on, and switch us over to Texans-Colts. Even Chiefs-Ravens would be better than this.
Picking the Lions, I see. I respect your confidence in them. I’d like to feel the same way, but…
@Geeno: It was a terrible pick, I know. I just hate the Redskins so much! And the Bills have potential. Not living up to it at the moment, obviously. I used to hate the Bills, but I married into a family from Buffalo, and as it makes them happy when the Bills win, I generally root for them if they aren’t playing a team I like. I realize this isn’t a good explanation for picking the Bills today. There really isn’t one…
I survived taking my teenage niece and nephew to Disneyland yesterday though I have extremely sore feet today. I did make the rookie mistake of buying light sabers for them before dinner and had to confiscate it from my nephew a couple of times when he wasn’t paying attention to the people around him.
Also, as threatened, I made the kids listen to Hamilton in the car on the way down and my Broadway-loving niece’s reaction was (an almost-direct quote), “OMG THE FEELS!” I also need to get a Steam account so she can show me how to download Undertale, which is her current Hamilton-like obsession.
@Mnemosyne: Nice! That sounds like fun.
@Betty Cracker: How did Rex take 2 Sanchez-led teams to conference finals!!?? when it looks like he has D-coord lifer written all over him.
Go bengals. Yay.
@Yutsano: that’s exactly why I want the Panthers to go undefeated. I hate it when the Dolphins celebrate when the last team gets beaten. That’s why I started rooting for the otherwise detestable Pats. And nowadays, it would be a lot bigger accomplishment than what the fins did back then.
Cam’s still looking like the MVP this week (3 TD passes plus a 46 yard run). That 2 minute drill was brutal for the Giants.
After 16 games, the winners of each of the four divisions, in both the NFC and AFC, and the top two non-division winners, in each conference, meet in an elimination round play-offs. NFC teams play NFC teams. AFC teams play AFC teams.
4 rounds total.
Top two teams in each conference automatically go to the quarter finals.
Winners of the quarter final games go to the semi-finals, i.e. conference championship games.
Winner of the AFC conference championship game plays the winner of the NFC conference championship game, in the finals, i.e. Superbowl.
Thank you very much for that. So, there is still quite a long road to being the Champions of the Champions. Which team is objectively favoured at this early stage to win the whole enchilada? In your opinion? Could the Packers make it all the way?
@Suezboo: Fuck the Packers, GO BERZ!
Fortunately for all of us, BillInGlendale alerted me to our local weather report the night before, so I ran to Target and got a couple of cheapo rain ponchos for the kids. They came in handy when the skies opened up right around dinner time.
sideways with a rusty cheese head. They have a tradition of mooning the opposing team bus but had a hissy fit when a player just pantomimed mooning them while beating them at Lamebo
Sister Rail Gun of Warm Humanitarianism
Possible. However, the Panthers won their head-to-head against the Packers earlier this year, are still undefeated, and flat-out dominating the Giants at the moment. Unless some major element of their team goes out with an injury, the safe bet right now is for the Panthers to win it all.
Personally I’m just pissed that the Bucs squandered their opportunity to build themselves into winners the last two games, knocking themselves downward out of a playoff spot.
On the bright side, we’re moving up the draft board to ensure getting a goddamn pass-rush threat next April. We need that, good CBs, a better Safety, and some more OL depth.
@Sister Rail Gun of Warm Humanitarianism: Cam’s already thrown for 5 TDs in this game. Don’t know why they’re keeping him in, as much as I’d like to see him get #6. And frankly, the Giants should pull OBJ now before he gets suspended given how he’s playing right now.
Will there be a thread for people to advert their creative works for sale? ‘Tis the season mayhaps to market our wares.
Game’s not entirely out of reach yet. Giants just scored, and it’s still third quarter. Fourth quarter if the Panths are up by 3 TDs still, or can kick a FG, then you’ll see the starters sit.
@Suezboo: Here’s a good rundown of NFL playoff rules and tiebreakers. Begins approx 30 seconds in.
I’ve been waiting all week to see Johnnie Football’s ego whither against the Hawks
Unbelievably stupid throw by Eli.
@PaulW: Damn, that was psychic on your part. I’d like to see Cam come out to rest his knee, but looks like he needs to stay in a little longer.
That sure was sporting of the 12-1 Panthers to give NYG a sense they are still in it.
So, 5 min & no time outs. DO you go for broke & the on-side or make your D stuff them?
Skins — Bills. Bills eliminated from playoffs. The Flutie curse lives on.
The Pats won. Only two men for the Pats were injured today. I’d give them a chance to go to the Super Bowl, but I’m not sure that they’d be able to field a team. The Falcons are ahead but trying to find a way to lose.
Giants tied it up! I’ll be darned.
O my!!! giants!
@Betty Cracker: Just wow and the Falcons won, or will.
I’m still getting into this football thing, but I think I have some of the basics better. Do you guys think it would be worth it to watch a game with people to observe the fan in their natural habitat?
Can someone tell me why nfl coaches love first downs so much? Tie gsme with 46 seconds to go and a 2nd and less than one, the Panthers run a quarterback draw from their own 33. Why not take a shot down field? You have two more chances to get a first down. Instead they get a first down one yard for the rope that they would have been anyhow. It makes no sense to me. Can’t complain though, Carolina won.
@ruemara: before you do that check out youtube vids of Seahawk fans at the end of SB 49 or Pats fans after 42 or 46. With playoffs around the corner that’s the kind of thing you’ll have to deal with. Forewarned is forearmed.
@ruemara: Yes, and to ask questions. Football can be confusing to newcomers.
@patrick II: Clock management and field position, and to preempt defensive schemes.
And to be four armed makes it hard to buy a suit
@p.a.: Rowdy seahawks fans.
@Schlemazel: It does mean you can make pizza and hot wings at the same time.
Maybe with four arms a guy could force himself to eat Papa Johns “pizza”. I thought it was a bit of blinding honesty to run a commercial with some steroid infused footballer trying desperately to force that thing into his mouth and not making it.
@Schlemazel: That’s an abomination to pizza lovers. Truth be told, once I learned how to make my own, I rarely eat pizza out anywhere.
@efgoldman: or offsides
@ruemara: We’re the same way. Commercial pizza offerings are limited in our little town, and we only order it out of laziness. If we want good pizza, we must make it ourselves.
@efgoldman: Infield fly rule barely ever applies; I’ve been a lifelong football fan and I’m not certain what is a catch, what is a penalty, when “in the grasp” or “forward motion” applies, etc.
Football is too complicated, rules wise.
@Betty Cracker: Do you have “Houses of Pizza” down south?
As a rule of thumb, anywhere they exist, they have the best pizza.
@redshirt: I’m not aware of that chain.
@Betty Cracker: Not a chain, just a very common name. ‘Location’ House of Pizza. Here in New England, usually owned by Greeks.
@Betty Cracker: The name would be:
Your Town House of Pizza
So, if you’re in Pensacola there will be one, and only one, Pensacola House of Pizza.
Watching Steelers, listening to Bruins on radio. I couldn’t take Phil Simms for some reason today.
@p.a.: I think it is a chain, though, in that they share a menu and a style of cooking pizzas and hot subs and calzones and all that – at the least.
What else the House of Pizza is hiding, I do not know.
Or dare say.
@redshirt: similar because they’re all owned by cousins.
Sadly my local has gone from Blodgett* ovens to the conveyor belt oven for ‘za. Blodgett still used to heat calzones, breadsticks, and grinders/heroes/subs/po’boys.
* In a Peter deVries novel a character calls the delicious oversized subs ‘Blodgetts’.
@ruemara: HIGHLY recommended. Depending on where you live, January playoff games can be most instructive.
@p.a.: My local House of Pizza in High School was a pretty hip spot to hang out as it was in the center of town and there were a few other places you could loiter for a bit. A couple of years ago the building burned, alas, so it was closed for a while but amazingly, rebuilt into a new and more powerful House of Pizza.
@BruceFromOhio: Cincy cruising. Former Alabama QB’s haven’t won an NFL game since 1987. McCarron!
@redshirt: One local pizza place, The Pizza Cave, was firebombed by the owners of the new pizza parlour down the road. They were caught and jailed. The Cave was reborn as Pawtucket House of Pizza. Still going strong decades later.
@p.a.: I was driving around the Rhode Island area one day. I was in New Bedford at the Whaling Museum and figured I better head back to Providence. I wanted the best pizza I could find and the google put me in some joint in the Brown University hood.
@p.a.: I bet the House of Pizza was behind it. Think of a chain restaurant of thousands of establishments, yet only locals know about them. How could such a massive franchise remain so below the radar? Hashtag just asking questions.
@raven: Wickenden St? Pizza-Pier or probably Fellini.
Or Al Forno; brought grilled pizza to US. Co-founder died very recently. You’d remember Al Forno, delicious, but a $35 10 inch pizza is memorable in it’s own right.
@p.a.: I think it was Antonio’s Pizza .
@p.a.: How does Regina Pizzeria in Boston measure up? I almost passed out it was so good.
@raven: On Thayer. Haven’t been there. Thayer certainly is Brown’s omphalos.
@redshirt: Your description of it reminds me a bit of ABC Pizza, a low-key chain of indeterminate size. They have decent (but not truly great, IMO) pizza, subs, baked pasta dishes, etc. Run by Greeks, restauranteurs to the world.
Never been to the original. The chain I tried was pretty good: really good crust. We had the Margherita and something with chicken.
@Betty Cracker: Yes, I’m positing a Greek conspiracy. The House of Pizza has controlled pizza across the world for hundreds of years. They have a monopoly on pizza joints across America, and no one knows. Except us, now.
@p.a.: I really hadn’t wanted to end up in a college joint but that’s where the google took me. I was with a group at Lancellotta’s Banquet Restaurant in North Providence the night before and was hoping for another family joint.
@p.a.: Yea, I went to the original.
@raven: I live bout a mile from Lancellotta’s. Their family style chicken puts Wright’s Farm to shame. But Wright’s is impressive just for the volume of diners it can accomodate. Shit, for family style with pizza Twin’s is atound the corner from Lancellotta’s.
Also too, Antonio Brown is a BEAST.
@p.a.: The last half of my year in Vietnam was in the 107th Signal Co. RI National Guard. They had a reunion so I flew up for it. I was supposed to go deep sea fishing the next day but I got rained out so I just drove all over the place!
eta We had the Mayor there and he was fucking hilarious, a real Joe Pesci. I know you know who he is because I guess he’s pretty famous.
What the fuck are the Steelers doing???
@raven: Was that the Sons of Italy Night at Lancellotta’s? I have a 2 friends that go.
@raven: Trying to lose the game.
@raven: and Denver still has 2 TOs
@p.a.: No, it was the 45th Reunion of the 107th Signal Company’s deployment to Vietnam. They are largely Italian but a few Portuguese thrown in for good measure. They were pretty surprised that “dat kid from California” showed up. I had a nice time, mostly with one guy that I had been in touch with for a couple of years prior. The unit was given a special event at the statehouse and Chafee gave everyone a certificate. I was going to go but I just didn’t feel right about it so I flew home early. They mailed me the sheepskin.
@raven: Cool. Portuguese are practically goombahs.
@p.a.: It was fun, I had always felt this affinity for Rhode Island even though I’d never been there.