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NFL Open Thread

by John Cole|  January 3, 20162:06 pm| 89 Comments

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This Browns/Steelers game is about as fun as a root canal.

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  1. 1.

    Villago Delenda Est

    January 3, 2016 at 2:08 pm

    Well, the Cowboys/Racial Slurs game should be exciting, if only because a group of people who are protesting the Racial Slurs and their name are outside.

  2. 2.

    Corner Stone

    January 3, 2016 at 2:09 pm

    It’s the last week of regular season. Let’s pick it up now, heah?!

  3. 3.

    Corner Stone

    January 3, 2016 at 2:10 pm

    IMO, it’s somewhat exciting that so many games actually mean something. Parity has its uses!

  4. 4.

    schrodinger's cat

    January 3, 2016 at 2:15 pm

    As a New Year’s gift can you put up the photo with Tunch sitting on the Steelers swag.

  5. 5.

    Corner Stone

    January 3, 2016 at 2:16 pm

    Recent comments you are so good.

  6. 6.

    Baud

    January 3, 2016 at 2:21 pm

    Is it more fun than bumfuzzling?

  7. 7.

    Louis Diamond

    January 3, 2016 at 2:34 pm

    You need a real root canal to know the difference. Or I need stronger football fandom to understand.

  8. 8.

    Germy

    January 3, 2016 at 2:39 pm

    Republican presidential candidate Carly Fiorina argued on Sunday that GOP voters should select her over Sen. Ted Cruz (R-TX) because he would say “whatever” to get elected.

    Speaking to CNN’s Dana Bash, Fiorina defended her criticism of Cruz for shutting down the government in 2013 over President Barack Obama’s health care reform law.

    “Ted Cruz is just like any other politician,” Fiorina told Bash. “He says one thing in Manhattan, he says another thing in Iowa.”

  9. 9.

    geg6

    January 3, 2016 at 2:41 pm

    Seriously. But Buffalo is winning, so all is good.

  10. 10.

    ThresherK

    January 3, 2016 at 2:44 pm

    @Germy: Oh Carly, don’t you know by now? Slight paraphrase, but if there’s anything the MSM considers high praise for any GOP candidate is the line “He’ll do anything to get elected!”

    If Dana Bash had anything on the ball she’d ask Carly how that Rose Bowl bet turned out.

  11. 11.

    Villago Delenda Est

    January 3, 2016 at 2:48 pm

    @Germy: Gosh, iCarly, project much?

  12. 12.

    Jim, Foolish Literalist

    January 3, 2016 at 2:48 pm

    @Germy: Just made a google and Carly Fiorina is currently at 2.5% nationally. I’m trying to imagine the hypothetical viewer imagined by the CNN producers/bookers who invited her on: “I was gonna sleep in/read the paper/walk the dog/watch the pregame show, but CNN’s got Carly Fiorina!”, who has made more news with a silly tweet pandering about college football than she has since lying about Planned Parenthood two months ago.

  13. 13.

    Roger Moore

    January 3, 2016 at 2:53 pm

    @Germy:

    Republican presidential candidate Carly Fiorina argued on Sunday that GOP voters should select her over Sen. Ted Cruz (R-TX) because he would say “whatever” to get elected.

    Whereas Carly Fiorina would say “whatever” whether she’s running for office or not, just because she’s a pathological liar. That’s ever so much better.

  14. 14.

    Germy

    January 3, 2016 at 2:55 pm

    @ThresherK: Carly really pandered with her Rose Bowl bet. Her judgement is as unsound as ever.
    @Villago Delenda Est: @Jim, Foolish Literalist: Does anyone actually show up at her rallies to hear her speak? Or does she limit herself to losing her temper with gab-show hosts?

  15. 15.

    Germy

    January 3, 2016 at 2:57 pm

    @Roger Moore:

    Whereas Carly Fiorina would say “whatever” whether she’s running for office or not, just because she’s a pathological liar.

    I have special contempt for the “I started from nothing” crowd of privileged assholes. “I started as a secretary and worked my way up!” = Easily-disproved bullshit.

    It’s an insult to those of us who face real struggles in a rigged game.

  16. 16.

    ThresherK

    January 3, 2016 at 3:00 pm

    @Germy: I just hope she didn’t cash in her HP stock options to bet on that game.

    Oh, wait…

  17. 17.

    Amir Khalid

    January 3, 2016 at 3:14 pm

    @Jim, Foolish Literalist:
    Per The Huffington Post’s poll averages, Fiorina peaked at 8% in late September and has been declining ever since. The base has already lost interest in her, methinks.

  18. 18.

    Jim, Foolish Literalist

    January 3, 2016 at 3:15 pm

    I love twitter-Nixon

    Richard M. Nixon ‏@ dick_nixon 11m11 minutes ago
    Find God in jail, write a book about it.
    –Taegan Goddard @politicalwire
    –Christie’s Path to Victory

  19. 19.

    redshirt

    January 3, 2016 at 3:15 pm

    I know the Pats have a ton of injuries, but they haven’t looked good in a long while. If they lose today, they’ll be 2-4 in their last 6.

    This game is painful – literally. Watching Brady get rolled up on hurts.

  20. 20.

    J R in WV

    January 3, 2016 at 3:17 pm

    The Bengals Ravens game is good, and getting better. I’m giving up on P’burgh until they can Ben, he’s a slimeball.

  21. 21.

    Anya

    January 3, 2016 at 3:21 pm

    Did any of the republican assholes running opine on the situation with the pack of lone wolves currently holed up on a federal building?

  22. 22.

    Big R

    January 3, 2016 at 3:24 pm

    @Anya: Don’t lone wolves by definition not run in packs?

  23. 23.

    geg6

    January 3, 2016 at 3:25 pm

    @J R in WV:

    Gotta disagree. Perhaps in in his past, for which I won’t disagree at all. But not in many years, by all accounts. A good dad, a good husband and an excellent employee. Hate the Steelers all you want, but it’s not about Ben, as he exists today. It’s only about your outdated impression of Ben, which is not reality as it exists today.

  24. 24.

    Amir Khalid

    January 3, 2016 at 3:27 pm

    @Anya:
    Dare they? They face an obvious dilemma: gratify the party base and support lawbreakers, or support the law and offend the base.

  25. 25.

    Baud

    January 3, 2016 at 3:30 pm

    @Anya:
    @Amir Khalid:

    They’ll blame Obama.

  26. 26.

    Roger Moore

    January 3, 2016 at 3:34 pm

    @Germy:

    Carly really pandered with her Rose Bowl bet.

    She does show a tiny bit of political savvy. She might as well try pandering in Iowa, since she’s never going to make another friend in Palo Alto.

  27. 27.

    Doug R

    January 3, 2016 at 3:34 pm

    Seahawks vs cardinals-both teams have clinched playoff spots. Do they try and knock the cards down to second seed, or try not to hurt any more players and play the bench?

  28. 28.

    Anya

    January 3, 2016 at 3:36 pm

    @Big R: not if they’re RWNJ. Rules don’t apply.

  29. 29.

    Corner Stone

    January 3, 2016 at 3:39 pm

    Mercedes Lewis is a big, big man.

  30. 30.

    Davebo

    January 3, 2016 at 3:40 pm

    After a great first 3 quarters the Texans have forgotten how to tackle.

    Luckily Watt forces yet another fumble!

  31. 31.

    Corner Stone

    January 3, 2016 at 3:43 pm

    @Baud: And that’s no joke. The safest possible path there is to neither accept their actions nor deny them as a group but rather just decry how Obama has divided us as a nation and forced this outcome through his dictator style lawlessness and flaunting of the constitution.

  32. 32.

    Amir Khalid

    January 3, 2016 at 3:44 pm

    @Corner Stone:
    Did his parents name him Mercedes on the “boy named Sue” principle?

  33. 33.

    Corner Stone

    January 3, 2016 at 3:44 pm

    @Davebo: I don’t understand what happened, it’s like they flipped a switch and decided that tackling was an ancient and forgotten art that no one remembered anymore.

  34. 34.

    Corner Stone

    January 3, 2016 at 3:46 pm

    @Amir Khalid: It’s actually “Marcedes”, my auto correct notwithstanding.
    And who knows? But either way he’s a big strong man, that Sue.

  35. 35.

    Corner Stone

    January 3, 2016 at 3:48 pm

    @Amir Khalid: Personally, if I had a boy nowadays I would consider naming him Ndamukong. I don’t know how you go wrong with that one.

  36. 36.

    Jim, Foolish Literalist

    January 3, 2016 at 3:55 pm

    This seems important

    Randa Slim
    ‏@ rmslim
    #KSA severs diplomatic relations with #Iran. God help the #Syrians, #Yemenis, #Iraqis & #Lebanese. More conflict & strife in the offing.

  37. 37.

    J R in WV

    January 3, 2016 at 3:56 pm

    @Anya:

    You know, it is a building, and it is owned by the federal government… but to me, it’s a park building, or a wildlife building. Federal buildings are court houses, official homes of the court system, with guards, etc.

    If these yahoos were actually in a Federal Courthouse, that would be a big deal. They took over a bird sanctuary, Not the same thing.

    I’m not trying to jump on you Anya, at all. It’s just that you reminded me of something that irritates me about these particular assholes.

  38. 38.

    Davebo

    January 3, 2016 at 3:57 pm

    @Corner Stone: I know, but it was just for a few minutes.

    Hard to complain about the Texans defense these days.

  39. 39.

    Corner Stone

    January 3, 2016 at 3:57 pm

    After that pick 6 by the Texans I would send JJ, Cushing, Mercilus and Vince Wilfork to the locker room.

  40. 40.

    Davebo

    January 3, 2016 at 4:04 pm

    @Corner Stone:

    Seems they are staying in to rack up sack numbers. But I agree with you!

  41. 41.

    Corner Stone

    January 3, 2016 at 4:05 pm

    He was well beyond the line of scrimmage.

  42. 42.

    Corner Stone

    January 3, 2016 at 4:06 pm

    @Davebo: If JJ had not broken his hand he may have easily had another 20+ sack season.

    Yikes.

    And Mercilus may be the best name for an LB in some time.

  43. 43.

    a hip hop artist from Idaho (fka Bella Q)

    January 3, 2016 at 4:11 pm

    @J R in WV: I can’t decide whether they’re smart enough to figure there’s less chance for serious (in terms of ordnance and or squad size) response at a bird sanctuary than at a courthouse/SSA building. I’m leaning heavily toward “no.” But the birds really don’t deserve this.

  44. 44.

    Corner Stone

    January 3, 2016 at 4:12 pm

    Fucking Jets.

  45. 45.

    Roger Moore

    January 3, 2016 at 4:24 pm

    @a hip hop artist from Idaho (fka Bella Q):

    I can’t decide whether they’re smart enough to figure there’s less chance for serious (in terms of ordnance and or squad size) response at a bird sanctuary than at a courthouse/SSA building.

    There may be a bit of that thinking, but this is basically the same old range war. Their objection isn’t to the federal government owning courthouses and similar buildings; it’s to the federal government owning large swathes of land. They think the BLM, Forest Service, Park Service, and similar agencies are unconstitutional, and the government should be forced to give up all the open land it owns out west. And they absolutely hate government rules that prioritize wildlife over other uses, so wildlife sanctuaries are on their shit list.

  46. 46.

    ? Martin

    January 3, 2016 at 4:24 pm

    @Jim, Foolish Literalist: Quite. Interesting times are interesting.

  47. 47.

    Woodrowfan

    January 3, 2016 at 4:24 pm

    Bungals won. Yay Bungals!

  48. 48.

    Davebo

    January 3, 2016 at 4:30 pm

    @Corner Stone: I noticed that as well but it seemed in garbage time no one wanted to argue it.

  49. 49.

    Doug R

    January 3, 2016 at 4:43 pm

    Looks like the ‘hawks want to win. Still keeping Lynch out until the playoffs, though.

  50. 50.

    Corner Stone

    January 3, 2016 at 4:52 pm

    @Doug R: I would if I were they. IMO the Hawks want to go into either Vikes or Pack for the first round. Most dangerous team in the NFC at this point. Cards 1a and CAR somewhere lower.

  51. 51.

    Anoniminous

    January 3, 2016 at 4:52 pm

    @Roger Moore:

    It’s more that wildlife are given equal status to their cows or sheep. Which, in their eyes, is “prioritizing wildlife.”

    Living in the New Mexico one gets tired of ranchers utterly dependent on government subsidies protesting government regulation of government lands.

  52. 52.

    Amir Khalid

    January 3, 2016 at 4:54 pm

    TPM reports on the latest brainwave from the geniuses at Jeb HQ: One exclamation point isn’t enough for Jeb!!

  53. 53.

    Zinsky

    January 3, 2016 at 4:56 pm

    Wait until the Minnesota Vikings and the “hammer of the Gods” comes crashing down on the heads of Aaron Rodgers and the Green Bay Meatpackers! Ka-boom!

  54. 54.

    Heliopause

    January 3, 2016 at 4:58 pm

    Weird how the Patriots struggled down the stretch, they lost four times and had a few unimpressive wins. Still, will be hard to bet against them in the divisional round.

    No New York teams in the postseason. Breaks the heart.

    Titans clinch the first draft pick, I believe.

  55. 55.

    Anoniminous

    January 3, 2016 at 5:03 pm

    @Amir Khalid:

    You have been bumfuzzled by Democrats. JEB! will come roaring out of the pack to secure the nomination once he get the Lindsey Graham people on board.

    Both of ’em.

  56. 56.

    khead

    January 3, 2016 at 5:04 pm

    @Woodrowfan:

    Yeah, but they gave up that shitty garbage TD late to put a serious dent in my gambling day in DE. If Cinci had come in, I’d already be cashing and anything else – like, say KC – would be a nice bonus.

    Probably shouldn’t complain. The Bengals and Cardinals have been really good to me this year.

  57. 57.

    Doug R

    January 3, 2016 at 5:05 pm

    @Amir Khalid: ¿¡Jeb!?

  58. 58.

    Mike J

    January 3, 2016 at 5:15 pm

    Crap. White stuff falling.

  59. 59.

    Schlemazel

    January 3, 2016 at 5:19 pm

    @Anoniminous:
    So long as he does not get run over by a Brinks truck backing up.

  60. 60.

    Schlemazel

    January 3, 2016 at 5:22 pm

    @Zinsky:
    Are you really really young, a hopeless optimist or just not aware of history? Either way I have to say I admire your attitude.

  61. 61.

    redshirt

    January 3, 2016 at 5:25 pm

    @Heliopause: The Pats are a shell of their former selves right now, both sides of the ball. And special teams!

    Injuries are a big part, but every team has injuries.

    I am not optimistic.

    KC would be my AFC favorite right now.

  62. 62.

    SFAW

    January 3, 2016 at 5:29 pm

    @Corner Stone:

    Fucking Jets.

    No kidding. Maybe Geno will come back next season, with a renewed sense of purpose, and a hitherto-unnoticed ability to throw a pass in front of a receiver. Or maybe Ryan Fitzpatrick will develop an arm strong enough to throw a pass — accurately — more than 12.3 yards. And maybe I will be 30 years younger.

    @Anoniminous:

    once he get the Lindsey Graham people on board.

    Both of ’em.

    Been drinking again? Because I think you’re seeing double.

  63. 63.

    Corner Stone

    January 3, 2016 at 5:31 pm

    @SFAW: Fitzy threw at least two INTs off his back foot with his helmet moving away from the action.
    Should have just taken the damn sack.

  64. 64.

    SFAW

    January 3, 2016 at 5:32 pm

    @redshirt:

    Injuries are a big part, but every team has injuries.

    Not a Pats fan (as you may recall), but I think they’ve have enough injuries to key people that it would be exceedingly difficult for them — or anyone — to win against good teams.

  65. 65.

    SFAW

    January 3, 2016 at 5:35 pm

    @Corner Stone:

    Hey, come on, he’s a “game manager,” so he knows what’s best.

    After all, Hahvahd people always know bettah than you.

  66. 66.

    redshirt

    January 3, 2016 at 5:38 pm

    @SFAW: True, but they just got stomped by the Dolphins, who are most definitely NOT a good team this year, especially last half of the season.

    They can’t do anything offensively, they give up tons of yards to poor offenses, and they are even stinking on special teams.

    They’ll be getting quite a few people back in 2 weeks, but I don’t think this team can go all the way. Hope I’m wrong.

  67. 67.

    Roger Moore

    January 3, 2016 at 5:47 pm

    @Anoniminous:

    It’s more that wildlife are given equal status to their cows or sheep. Which, in their eyes, is “prioritizing wildlife.”

    I would dispute that mildly. There are rules that very much put wild animals ahead of livestock; that’s exactly what a wildlife refuge is- a place where wild animals are allowed but livestock isn’t. In any case, the bigger point is that the ranchers really see the land they ranch on as their property no matter what the legal niceties say, and they’re looking for any kind of excuse for why they should just be allowed to have it. That’s the central dispute, and everything else is either secondary or just an excuse.

  68. 68.

    SFAW

    January 3, 2016 at 5:51 pm

    @redshirt:

    For your sake, I also hope you’re wrong, but I’m just as happy to see them lose in the first round.

    Only thing better would be them playing the Giants in the Super Bowl. With David Tyree playing a few snaps.

  69. 69.

    redshirt

    January 3, 2016 at 5:56 pm

    @SFAW: Grrrrr….

  70. 70.

    khead

    January 3, 2016 at 5:56 pm

    @SFAW:

    Fitzpatrick did just fine down the stretch….. until today.

  71. 71.

    SFAW

    January 3, 2016 at 6:03 pm

    @khead:
    He had decent stats, and a few good drives, but he still has a weak arm, and cannot throw downfield accurately. Of course, it would help if some of his targets had better hands, but they can’t all be Fred Biletnikoff.

  72. 72.

    SFAW

    January 3, 2016 at 6:03 pm

    @redshirt:

    Grrrrr….

    My work here is done ….

  73. 73.

    Doug R

    January 3, 2016 at 6:26 pm

    Now 33-6 and the Cards have pulled Carson. At one point, Lockett’s return yardage was more than the entire Card offense.

  74. 74.

    ThresherK

    January 3, 2016 at 6:28 pm

    Hey, what is an AFC game doing being produced and aired on Fox?

  75. 75.

    redshirt

    January 3, 2016 at 6:31 pm

    Wow! I called this exact scenario elsewhere. Denver gets roughed up, Peyton comes in, and then sucks.

    Watch it happen!

    Or not….

  76. 76.

    The Sailor

    January 3, 2016 at 6:32 pm

    Peyton Manning is in!

  77. 77.

    Steeplejack (phone)

    January 3, 2016 at 6:58 pm

    @Amir Khalid:

    Not quite. If you read below the fold:

    Okay, that second exclamation point thing isn’t really happening. I made that up.

  78. 78.

    Sister Rail Gun of Warm Humanitarianism

    January 3, 2016 at 7:02 pm

    Just curious. When did the networks start refusing to replay bad injuries?

  79. 79.

    Corner Stone

    January 3, 2016 at 7:28 pm

    That was nuts. Nuts!

  80. 80.

    Mike J

    January 3, 2016 at 7:32 pm

    C’mon, Packers!

  81. 81.

    Roger Moore

    January 3, 2016 at 7:48 pm

    @Sister Rail Gun of Warm Humanitarianism:

    When did the networks start refusing to replay bad injuries?

    At least as far back as Joe Theisman’s broken leg.

  82. 82.

    redshirt

    January 3, 2016 at 7:50 pm

    Gosh darn, everything was set up for a Broncos collapse.

    But Denver’s run game exploded, and SD’s defense could no longer tee off due to Manning’s excellent audibles/LOS calls.

  83. 83.

    Roger Moore

    January 3, 2016 at 7:54 pm

    @redshirt:
    More realistically, the Broncos had been running all over the Chargers the whole game, but they had kept it close by coughing up the ball left, right, and center. Once they stopped giving the Chargers free chances, they were able to finish the game strong.

  84. 84.

    Schlemazel

    January 3, 2016 at 8:06 pm

    @Roger Moore:
    I remember that game & ABC showed and reshowed and reshowed that break several times throughout the night. I started just turning my head but finally turned it off because they showed it so often.

    My guess is that the NFL may have said something to the networks in the last couple of years because of the legal issues the league has over injury.

  85. 85.

    Sister Rail Gun of Warm Humanitarianism

    January 3, 2016 at 8:14 pm

    @Roger Moore:

    At least as far back as Joe Theisman’s broken leg.

    No, that one was on endless replays. That night and on Today et al the next morning.

    Kevin Ware breaking his leg in March Madness 2013 is the most recent I remember being replayed over and over. I was surprised when Fox Sports refused to replay the Jorvorskie Lane injury this afternoon.

  86. 86.

    I'mNotSureWhoIWantToBeYet

    January 3, 2016 at 8:23 pm

    @Schlemazel: They showed Tim Krumrie’s leg flopping around for what seemed like hours in 1989.

    YouTube (2:56). (It’s easiest to see in the “reverse angle” starting around 1:40. He’s #69.)

    FWIW.

    Cheers,
    Scott.

  87. 87.

    Mike J

    January 3, 2016 at 8:40 pm

    They showed Ricardo Lockette getting hit repeatedly, but there were no exposed bones or anything.

  88. 88.

    Roger Moore

    January 3, 2016 at 8:48 pm

    @Sister Rail Gun of Warm Humanitarianism:
    Sorry; I misread the original message and thought it was asking when they started showing bad injuries on repeat, not when they quit.

  89. 89.

    BruceFromOhio

    January 3, 2016 at 11:04 pm

    Pettine out, along with the GM. Maybe the can find Manziel while they are out looking for new jobs.

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