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You are here: Home / Open Threads / GOP Debate, Who is Left?

GOP Debate, Who is Left?

by TaMara|  January 14, 20168:47 pm| 531 Comments

This post is in: Open Threads, Republican Stupidity, Clown Shoes, Our Failed Media Experiment

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Seems there is a debate again tonight. I didn’t see any posts in waiting, so I thought we might need a debate thread.

Let the skewering begin.

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  1. 1.

    JPL

    January 14, 2016 at 8:51 pm

    Mom Sense did a pretty good job keeping us informed on the kiddie debate. I hate to ask her to do double duty, but she was really, really good..

  2. 2.

    mike in dc

    January 14, 2016 at 8:52 pm

    I think this is the one where they all dog-pile on Trump(and Cruz) at some point. 4 establishment guys trying to get traction, plus Carson trying to avoid completely cratering. Shooting each other in the face with 3 weeks to go is unlikely to boost any one of them past the high teens.

  3. 3.

    David *Rafael* Koch

    January 14, 2016 at 8:53 pm

    Mwhahahahahhahahahahhahahhahahah

    ¿Jeb ? is at the very end of the stage (see photo)

    I just ? seeing him humiliated ?

  4. 4.

    dmsilev

    January 14, 2016 at 8:54 pm

    Is Rand Tribble-Top Paul going to try to crash the main debate party? And if so, will we get to see Fox Security drag him away?

  5. 5.

    dmsilev

    January 14, 2016 at 8:54 pm

    @David *Rafael* Koch: At least !Jeb hasn’t (yet) been relegated to the second league.

  6. 6.

    Villago Delenda Est

    January 14, 2016 at 8:56 pm

    Rand Paul got demoted to the second league, and so, in a huff, he took his ball and went to some Town Hall meeting, no doubt with a hand picked audience of drooling Objectivists.

  7. 7.

    NotMax

    January 14, 2016 at 8:56 pm

    Need it be stated?

    None of them are left.

    All of them are simultaneously right and wrong.

  8. 8.

    Villago Delenda Est

    January 14, 2016 at 8:57 pm

    @David *Rafael* Koch: ¡Heb! has discovered that The Donald is a jerk. Wow, amazing.

  9. 9.

    Villago Delenda Est

    January 14, 2016 at 8:58 pm

    @mike in dc: Carson still has books to sell, so naturally he’s there.

  10. 10.

    Mike J

    January 14, 2016 at 9:01 pm

    @Villago Delenda Est: Allen West: Captive US sailors should have fought Iran

  11. 11.

    NotMax

    January 14, 2016 at 9:01 pm

    HRC interview on Maddow today. Show just barely underway right now.

  12. 12.

    I'mNotSureWhoIWantToBeYet

    January 14, 2016 at 9:03 pm

    HRC is on Rachel on MSNBC now. First question is about Iran and the Navy boats…

    Cheers,
    Scott.

  13. 13.

    Iowa Old Lady

    January 14, 2016 at 9:03 pm

    I hope they follow the national anthem with a stirring rendition of Oh Canada.

  14. 14.

    Adam L Silverman

    January 14, 2016 at 9:04 pm

    @dmsilev: @Villago Delenda Est: What people are not paying attention to, but what Senator Paul remarked about last night on Chris Hayes show, is that he claims that his campaign network has already locked up promises of support from 1,100 delegates. Now I have no way to know if he’s telling the truth or even how to verify that, but I do know that his Dad perfected a very subtle and effective ground game in each primary state. A ground game that allowed him to collect delegate counts far outside his polling results and his seeming electability. We know Dr. Carson has no ground system in place. And no one is sure about Trumps. Senator Cruz seems to have a good one based on reporting and I’ve seen reporting all over the map for Governors Bush and Christie and Senator Rubio. So at this point, who really knows what’s really going on.

  15. 15.

    Mike J

    January 14, 2016 at 9:04 pm

    @Mike J: Sorry, not meant to be a reply to anyone. fat clicking fingers.

  16. 16.

    dmsilev

    January 14, 2016 at 9:05 pm

    Q: “Senator Cruz, explain to us why Obama is a dirty liar”

    A: “Iran sucks”

  17. 17.

    Adam L Silverman

    January 14, 2016 at 9:05 pm

    And I see Senator Cruz is doing a President George W Bush put on Texas accent. He sounds like Dana Carvey’s spoof of the first President Bush.

  18. 18.

    NotMax

    January 14, 2016 at 9:05 pm

    @Iowa Old Lady

    Ooh, snap!

    Maybe a few bars of “Babaloo” for Mark Blond.

  19. 19.

    raven

    January 14, 2016 at 9:06 pm

    Kill em all.

  20. 20.

    MomSense

    January 14, 2016 at 9:07 pm

    @JPL:

    Just in time for Cruz to advocate for the working person. Barf.

  21. 21.

    Schlemazel

    January 14, 2016 at 9:07 pm

    @NotMax:
    That would have worked out so well. Not just for the sailors but for the two nations that might have had to go to war because of the couple of dozen dead on each side

  22. 22.

    dmsilev

    January 14, 2016 at 9:07 pm

    Cruz’s face is in the dictionary next to “backpfeifengesicht”.

  23. 23.

    dmsilev

    January 14, 2016 at 9:08 pm

    Also, I note that Cruz somehow managed to forget to mention that the sailors in question spent a grand total of 0.5 days in Iranian custody and have since been released.

  24. 24.

    NotMax

    January 14, 2016 at 9:09 pm

    @Schlemazel

    ??

  25. 25.

    benw

    January 14, 2016 at 9:09 pm

    I’m watching Cavaliers at Spurs. I’d rather be dunked on 50 times by LeBron than watch 10 seconds of the GOP “debate”.

  26. 26.

    jl

    January 14, 2016 at 9:09 pm

    HoKay Doakay.

    Dumb sounding donk donk stop sound signal.
    First question is for 2012 campaign against Obama (no one tell them he is not running again)
    Cruz hypes nothingburger Iranboatgate.

    And, seems like BS debate format with different questions for each candidate, skipping from topic to topic.

    Kasich squishes out with exempting health and safety from regulation freeze.

    Baiting Christie into bad world on fire metaphors on security.

    I’ve heard enough of this one. I’m out. Have fun.

  27. 27.

    BillinGlendaleCA

    January 14, 2016 at 9:11 pm

    And the Joisey Whale tells us there needs to be limits to our patience. NO THIRD TERM.

  28. 28.

    lamh36

    January 14, 2016 at 9:11 pm

    I’ve got to get my blood pressure under control…the LAST thing I plan to do is watch the latest GOP Debate

  29. 29.

    Mary G

    January 14, 2016 at 9:11 pm

    Tax cuts will save us! Would it kill one of these moderators to point out that we tried that under the Shrub already and it didn’t work?

  30. 30.

    raven

    January 14, 2016 at 9:12 pm

    Taking our Navy ships. Fucking idiot,

  31. 31.

    BillinGlendaleCA

    January 14, 2016 at 9:12 pm

    @jl: Wait it’s time for jeb?.

    ETA: We need more weapons and more troops and project force.

  32. 32.

    dmsilev

    January 14, 2016 at 9:13 pm

    !Jeb: “It’s totally untrue that things have gotten better since my brother left office.”

  33. 33.

    Old Dan and Little Anne

    January 14, 2016 at 9:13 pm

    This is fucking horrible. Did Jeb just say terrorism is on the run? Whoops.

  34. 34.

    Villago Delenda Est

    January 14, 2016 at 9:13 pm

    @Mike J: Allen West is a fucking idiot, as well as a war criminal who should not have been allowed to retire in lieu of a court martial.

  35. 35.

    Really?

    January 14, 2016 at 9:13 pm

    something about trucks backing up?

  36. 36.

    Iowa Old Lady

    January 14, 2016 at 9:13 pm

    @Mary G:

    Would it kill one of these moderators to point out that we tried that under the Shrub already and it didn’t work?

    Yes.

    It’s FOX.

  37. 37.

    NotMax

    January 14, 2016 at 9:14 pm

    @jl

    Dumb sounding donk donk stop sound signal.

    What, no sad trombone? No “moderator” running up to strike a gong?

  38. 38.

    Mary G

    January 14, 2016 at 9:14 pm

    Jeb is still awful.

  39. 39.

    Renie

    January 14, 2016 at 9:14 pm

    @Schlemazel: OT I’ve been trying to find you in an active thread to thank you so much for mentioning the youtube series The Great War. I have been watching it regularly (to catch up) and am enjoying it very much! Thanks again for mentioning it the other day.

  40. 40.

    dmsilev

    January 14, 2016 at 9:14 pm

    Benghazi!

    (a hit new musical, coming this summer to Broadway)

  41. 41.

    raven

    January 14, 2016 at 9:14 pm

    Dodd Frank is a National Security issue.

  42. 42.

    BillinGlendaleCA

    January 14, 2016 at 9:15 pm

    That crowd is rather, eh, white.

  43. 43.

    gene108

    January 14, 2016 at 9:15 pm

    @Mary G:

    Tax cuts will save us! Would it kill one of these moderators to point out that we tried that under the Shrub already and it didn’t work?

    We did not cut taxes far enough.

    Tax cuts cannot fail. They can only be failed.

  44. 44.

    jl

    January 14, 2016 at 9:16 pm

    @BillinGlendaleCA: Too late sound off.

    @Adam L Silverman:
    I don’t think that Ron Paul’s super secret counterintuitive unskewed attempts at delegate accumulation ever produced anything remotely close to the brags.
    Maybe Rand believes it, he is often very into an alternative reality.

  45. 45.

    BillinGlendaleCA

    January 14, 2016 at 9:17 pm

    There’s a war against ISIS, Marco? How about that AMUF, Marco? You’re still a Senator, right?

  46. 46.

    BillinGlendaleCA

    January 14, 2016 at 9:18 pm

    Carson is mumbling word salad.

  47. 47.

    Adam L Silverman

    January 14, 2016 at 9:18 pm

    @jl: It did bag him Iowa in 2012. Beyond that I agree it was not that impressive. As I said I have no idea how to even begin to substantiate Senator Paul’s remarks.

  48. 48.

    mike in dc

    January 14, 2016 at 9:18 pm

    Uh-oh, Dr. Ben Carson just went exo-atmospheric on us.

  49. 49.

    Betty Cracker

    January 14, 2016 at 9:18 pm

    Just got home from a lovely dinner with friends and turned this shitshow on in time to discover that Lil’ Marco has donned ranty pants to go with his fancy boots. And now Carson is babbling foolishly. Gyad. Why?

    ETA: Why the fuck am I watching this, I mean.

  50. 50.

    Mandalay

    January 14, 2016 at 9:18 pm

    Little Marco has had way too much sugar. He’s going to piss himself if he doesn’t calm down.

  51. 51.

    Villago Delenda Est

    January 14, 2016 at 9:18 pm

    @Adam L Silverman: Yes, the Paul crowd is great at gaming the caucuses until the Partei steps in and out maneuvers them. Then they have the pesky problem of having no chance in hell of wining many delegates in primary states, what with the GOP’s winner take all system in a number of states. The Pauls, pere et fils, have their hardcore groupies who will go in and grab lots of delegates from caucus states, but it did nothing to get pere even a podium appearance at the 2012 GOP convention.

    The important thing, of course, is that they’re raking in the bucks from the rubes.

  52. 52.

    dmsilev

    January 14, 2016 at 9:18 pm

    Carson: “I’ve been taking my foreign policy lessons from Newt Gingrich”

  53. 53.

    Adam L Silverman

    January 14, 2016 at 9:18 pm

    @BillinGlendaleCA: He’s been listening to Speaker Gingrich again. He’s the major EMP threat shill.

  54. 54.

    NotMax

    January 14, 2016 at 9:19 pm

    @jl

    It got him the vote of the Iowa delegation at the convention.

    Beyond that, not so much.

  55. 55.

    BillinGlendaleCA

    January 14, 2016 at 9:19 pm

    And it’s on to tRump about Syrian refugees.

    ETA: Be Afraid, be very Afraid.

  56. 56.

    dmsilev

    January 14, 2016 at 9:19 pm

    @BillinGlendaleCA: Exo-atmospheric salad is really tasty.

  57. 57.

    Villago Delenda Est

    January 14, 2016 at 9:20 pm

    @Betty Cracker: Have you guys seen the anti-Marco RtR PAC ad which shamelessly steals from Nancy Sinatra?

    Guys have a lot of money, but not much sense.

  58. 58.

    dmsilev

    January 14, 2016 at 9:20 pm

    The great Syrian Trojan horse.

    Strong powerful men, no women and children.

  59. 59.

    raven

    January 14, 2016 at 9:20 pm

    @BillinGlendaleCA: Young very strong men.

  60. 60.

    mike in dc

    January 14, 2016 at 9:20 pm

    Trump is apparently projecting additional fatalities from prior terror attacks.

  61. 61.

    BillinGlendaleCA

    January 14, 2016 at 9:21 pm

    On to Failgunner Ted and his campaign “loan”.

  62. 62.

    Villago Delenda Est

    January 14, 2016 at 9:21 pm

    @mike in dc: I believe our benevolent blog host has already commented on The Donald’s latest terrorist attack.

  63. 63.

    Adam L Silverman

    January 14, 2016 at 9:22 pm

    @mike in dc: I’m pretty sure anyone who was not going to survive the Paris attack from November has already passed.

  64. 64.

    NotMax

    January 14, 2016 at 9:23 pm

    Who will be the first to suggest offering the Flint, Michigan special manager to oversee water plants in Syria?

  65. 65.

    Adam L Silverman

    January 14, 2016 at 9:23 pm

    Commercial. Thanks be to someone’s Deity!

  66. 66.

    BillinGlendaleCA

    January 14, 2016 at 9:23 pm

    @Adam L Silverman: I think he was talking about San Berdu.

    ETA: It’s tRump, hard to tell.

  67. 67.

    Really?

    January 14, 2016 at 9:23 pm

    So is it Kasich that’s going to be coughing for the next hour and half?

  68. 68.

    raven

    January 14, 2016 at 9:23 pm

    @Adam L Silverman: Nah, lot’s of em are on their way out. Many more.

  69. 69.

    Adam L Silverman

    January 14, 2016 at 9:24 pm

    @BillinGlendaleCA: It was part of his Paris attack schtick before he got to the California one. But who knows, its not like he’s really coherent or consistent.

  70. 70.

    raven

    January 14, 2016 at 9:24 pm

    @BillinGlendaleCA: No, he was talking about Pareee.

  71. 71.

    Adam L Silverman

    January 14, 2016 at 9:24 pm

    @raven: If only they were young, strong men.

  72. 72.

    mike in dc

    January 14, 2016 at 9:25 pm

    Ted Cruz(R-Goldman Sachs) did a reasonable job rebutting the “attack”, which was more of a softball really. These are mostly meatball questions.

  73. 73.

    Fair Economist

    January 14, 2016 at 9:25 pm

    @Adam L Silverman:

    What people are not paying attention to, but what Senator Paul remarked about last night on Chris Hayes show, is that he claims that his campaign network has already locked up promises of support from 1,100 delegates.

    He may have done some of that, but that’s a wild exaggeration. He’s less popular than his dad was, and the Republican establishment has changed the rules to make that kind of thing harder.

  74. 74.

    Anne Laurie

    January 14, 2016 at 9:25 pm

    From Guardian US columnist Jeb Lund:

    Watching Reince Priebus try to fire up a crowd is like watching a bowl of oatmeal try to start a gang fight.

  75. 75.

    BillinGlendaleCA

    January 14, 2016 at 9:25 pm

    @raven: It sit corrected.

  76. 76.

    SiubhanDuinne

    January 14, 2016 at 9:26 pm

    @Old Dan and Little Anne:

    Yes, that’s exactly what he said.

    These moderators are something else.

    Wish I could watch and comment on BJ at the same time, but I can’t.

    See you in the next commercial break!

  77. 77.

    raven

    January 14, 2016 at 9:26 pm

    @Adam L Silverman: The boys with kalidescope thighs. . .

  78. 78.

    Mandalay

    January 14, 2016 at 9:26 pm

    Cruz is wholly unconvincing on his cheapo loan from GS.

    His actual “crime” may be a nothingburger, but it’s coming out that he is in bed with the Wall Street and East Coast elites that he constantly whines about.

  79. 79.

    dmsilev

    January 14, 2016 at 9:26 pm

    And, we’re back. The candidates have wiped the blood off their mouths (again), so here we go.

    Q: Cruz birtherism.

  80. 80.

    Betty Cracker

    January 14, 2016 at 9:26 pm

    @Villago Delenda Est: Saw it. Good idea but shitty execution as far as the lyrics go. I could have written a better set in 20 minutes (just in case that RtR moron who occasionally trolls us is listening).

    @raven: With calves the size of cantaloupes!

  81. 81.

    raven

    January 14, 2016 at 9:27 pm

    @mike in dc: Meatball questions for meatball candidates.

  82. 82.

    NotMax

    January 14, 2016 at 9:27 pm

    @Adam L. Silverman

    “Young, strong, buff men, their taut oiled torsos glistening in the desert sun… um, what was the question again?”

  83. 83.

    Adam L Silverman

    January 14, 2016 at 9:28 pm

    @raven: I thought that was eyes.

  84. 84.

    raven

    January 14, 2016 at 9:28 pm

    @Betty Cracker: kalidescope thighs, cantaloupe calves. . .who am I to quibble.

  85. 85.

    Adam L Silverman

    January 14, 2016 at 9:29 pm

    Senator Cruz is actually quite good in this format. His tone, pitch, timber, and delivery are very good. And he just put the knife in.

  86. 86.

    raven

    January 14, 2016 at 9:29 pm

    @Adam L Silverman: You have to use your imagination!

  87. 87.

    Thoughtful Today

    January 14, 2016 at 9:29 pm

    …

    Hillary’s Rovian scare tactics on Maddow’s show were divisive and dishonest.

    It’s a pattern.

    It will be interesting to see how Democratic Party voters respond.

  88. 88.

    dmsilev

    January 14, 2016 at 9:30 pm

    Cruz vs. Trump in tonight’s asshole-off.

  89. 89.

    MomSense

    January 14, 2016 at 9:30 pm

    I just took a little ukulele break. It was very pleasant.

  90. 90.

    ? Martin

    January 14, 2016 at 9:31 pm

    @Thoughtful Today: As was true in 2008, Clinton would do better if she worried a bit less about her competition.

  91. 91.

    mike in dc

    January 14, 2016 at 9:31 pm

    Cruz: I’m eligible to be Prez-o-dent, just like Greg Stillson.

    Trump: I’m beating you in the polls, Ted. Cruz can’t be my VP because he’s a filthy foreigner.

  92. 92.

    lamh36

    January 14, 2016 at 9:32 pm

    I got rid of my cable and only have local channels, and I was lamenting it a few hours ago….but then when I realized the GOP Debate was tonight and I didn’t have access to any of the upper cable channels I became content with my bleek cable net choices… :-)

  93. 93.

    Schlemazel

    January 14, 2016 at 9:32 pm

    @NotMax:
    Following The advice that the sailors should have fought instead of giving up. At least some of them would have gotten killed along with some of the Iranians. Those deaths would have encouraged the loons in each country to escalate. It could have gone south very fast

  94. 94.

    Schlemazel

    January 14, 2016 at 9:33 pm

    @Renie:
    I love history & “The Great War” is well done. Glad you are enjoying it!

  95. 95.

    Helen

    January 14, 2016 at 9:33 pm

    Shorter Trump: “They’re not booing; they’re saying TrOOOOOmp.”

    Or something.

  96. 96.

    Betty Cracker

    January 14, 2016 at 9:33 pm

    Cruz is handling this birther business pretty effectively, despite being a smarmy prick.

  97. 97.

    schrodinger's cat

    January 14, 2016 at 9:34 pm

    OT: Some respite from the clown show

    Since today is Makar Sankranti, which many people celebrate by flying kites: Ruth Aaa Gayi Re from Deepa Mehta’s movie on India’s Partition, 1947 Earth.

  98. 98.

    Really?

    January 14, 2016 at 9:34 pm

    So this was supposed to be some kind of debate, right?

  99. 99.

    NotMax

    January 14, 2016 at 9:34 pm

    @Schlemazel

    Still haven’t the foggiest notion why that was addressed to me.

    I wasn’t on the same planet with any such idea and made not anything remotely close to a mention of it.

  100. 100.

    MomSense

    January 14, 2016 at 9:34 pm

    Shut up, Rubio.

  101. 101.

    Old Dan and Little Anne

    January 14, 2016 at 9:34 pm

    I was invoked in that answer! -Rubio. Total shit show.

  102. 102.

    Betty Cracker

    January 14, 2016 at 9:35 pm

    Someone told Lil’ Marco to channel Grumpypants McCain.

  103. 103.

    mike in dc

    January 14, 2016 at 9:36 pm

    Nimrata Randhawa question to Trump. He accepts the Mantle of Anger. Achievement Unlocked?

  104. 104.

    NotMax

    January 14, 2016 at 9:37 pm

    @Betty Cracker

    Do let us know if/when he brings up (repeatedly) Jose the Cobbler.

  105. 105.

    ThresherK

    January 14, 2016 at 9:37 pm

    @Villago Delenda Est: “These Boots are Made For Walkin” or “Somethin’ Stupid”?

    (My musical taste is just the right age to enjoy the latter despite its rep.)

  106. 106.

    raven

    January 14, 2016 at 9:37 pm

    DA MILITARY SUX

  107. 107.

    gene108

    January 14, 2016 at 9:38 pm

    @Betty Cracker:

    Cruz is handling this birther business pretty effectively, despite being a smarmy prick.

    Cruz is handling things pretty well so far.

  108. 108.

    Anne Laurie

    January 14, 2016 at 9:38 pm

    @Betty Cracker:

    Someone told Lil’ Marco to channel Grumpypants McCain.

    Quite possibly McCain his own self. Rubio’s big selling point, to the GOP, seems to be that he listens to his elders like a nice young puppet man should.

    As was said of Al Gore many years ago: “An old person’s idea of a young person.”

  109. 109.

    Old Dan and Little Anne

    January 14, 2016 at 9:38 pm

    Rubio just short-circuited.

  110. 110.

    Adam L Silverman

    January 14, 2016 at 9:39 pm

    @Schlemazel: Lets also remember how the Law of the Sea conventions work. Had this been a foreign nation’s Naval vessels unannounced entry into US waters we would have responded similarly. At least one if not two Coast Guard cutters would have interdicted the craft. They would have signaled intent to board and inspect and done so. While doing so, and while speaking to the vessels commander, the crew would have been held under armed guard until a reasonable answer was given and verified. Once that was done, then basic hospitality would have been extended while the vessel and crew were secured, repairs made, and the diplomatic contacts arranged for the return of the crew and equipment. The only things that would have changed this response is if the basic safety inspection turned up an irregularity, a sailor needed more extensive military care – in which case he or she would be taken for appropriate treatment and provisions would be made for a consular official to meet that sailor and remain with him or her, and/or some other irregularity was detected between the initial search and the vessel commander’s answer.

    We have rules that govern these interactions. The only states that do not recognize them are those that have placed themselves or been placed outside of the governing conventions. Iran desperately wants to be part of the community of nations. And they finally see that possibility really becoming reality. There is no way, shape, or form that they would violate the Law of the Sea Treaty on something like this.

  111. 111.

    Schlemazel

    January 14, 2016 at 9:39 pm

    @raven:
    Somebody calls you, you answer quite slowly
    A girl with kaleidoscope thighs

  112. 112.

    opiejeanne

    January 14, 2016 at 9:39 pm

    This would be hilarious if they weren’t serious.

  113. 113.

    Adam L Silverman

    January 14, 2016 at 9:40 pm

    @Betty Cracker: As I indicated earlier, he’s very good at this.

  114. 114.

    oldgold

    January 14, 2016 at 9:40 pm

    I thought Cruz’s response awful. Canned answer delivered in an intellectuallyl dishonest manner. Referring to Trump’s mother being born Scotland was idiocy on steroids.

  115. 115.

    Adam L Silverman

    January 14, 2016 at 9:40 pm

    Ooops! Governor Christie just called magazines clips. He just failed in trying to shore up his 2nd Amendment bona fides.

  116. 116.

    gene108

    January 14, 2016 at 9:41 pm

    What is wrong with Common Core?

    Why has it turned into a right-wing “whipping boy” for what’s wrong with the kids today?

  117. 117.

    Schlemazel

    January 14, 2016 at 9:41 pm

    @NotMax:
    Sorry I meant to click reply to the comment below you, didn’t realize that until now

  118. 118.

    ThresherK

    January 14, 2016 at 9:41 pm

    @gene108: There’s something about being in the hothouse of Fox News in January that makes me think, What kind of test is this for any Republican, seriously?

  119. 119.

    Richard Mayhew

    January 14, 2016 at 9:41 pm

    @Schlemazel: For this crowd, escalation with a bloody shirt is a feature not a bug

  120. 120.

    Helen

    January 14, 2016 at 9:42 pm

    Shorter Bush “We’re all a buncha liars. Don’t listen to us”

  121. 121.

    Ruviana

    January 14, 2016 at 9:42 pm

    @NotMax: Not watching. Does it sound like Law & Order?

  122. 122.

    Geeno

    January 14, 2016 at 9:42 pm

    @Iowa Old Lady: Hockey fans unite!
    They do that at all sporting events in Buffalo. I’ not 100% about Bills games these days – haven’t been in 10 years, but they used to. Too many fans come across the bridge from Ft. Erie, ON not to.

  123. 123.

    JPL

    January 14, 2016 at 9:42 pm

    @Adam L Silverman: I know this is tacky, but I’m curious about about what they were fed. They seemed to enjoy it.

  124. 124.

    Adam L Silverman

    January 14, 2016 at 9:43 pm

    @gene108: It was actually created as an initiative by the governors of a number of states, both Democrats and Republicans.

    Another great example of why no one really cares about Federalism and/or state’s rights (even though, again, state’s don’t have rights, they have powers).

  125. 125.

    Adam L Silverman

    January 14, 2016 at 9:44 pm

    @JPL: I have no idea, but I love Persian food.

  126. 126.

    MomSense

    January 14, 2016 at 9:44 pm

    Poor Kasich really wants to karate chop but he’s holding his own hand instead?

  127. 127.

    Schlemazel

    January 14, 2016 at 9:44 pm

    @Adam L Silverman:
    Well, if you are going to let things like international law and conventions get in your way it will be a lot harder to start a war.

  128. 128.

    gene108

    January 14, 2016 at 9:44 pm

    @ThresherK:

    What kind of test is this for any Republican, seriously?

    What kind of test is any debate?

    Cruz glibly talked his way through a couple of issues that were sort of dogging him lately.

  129. 129.

    dmsilev

    January 14, 2016 at 9:45 pm

    @MomSense: He’s babbling.

  130. 130.

    Old Dan and Little Anne

    January 14, 2016 at 9:45 pm

    @Geeno: I’m going to my first ever Sabres game this Saturday.

  131. 131.

    Schlemazel

    January 14, 2016 at 9:45 pm

    @gene108:
    It was proposed by a Democrat, that is all they need to know – it must be the source of all the ills of the world

  132. 132.

    gene108

    January 14, 2016 at 9:46 pm

    @MomSense:

    Poor Kasich really wants to karate chop but he’s holding his own hand instead?

    Kasich reminds of Gary Shandling’s Larry Sanders character.

  133. 133.

    mike in dc

    January 14, 2016 at 9:46 pm

    Ben Carson: Is This America Anymore? What year is this? Who am I?

  134. 134.

    dmsilev

    January 14, 2016 at 9:47 pm

    Serious question: Has Carson actually read the Bible? It’s chock full of people being assholes to each other.

  135. 135.

    NotMax

    January 14, 2016 at 9:47 pm

    @Ruviana

    Not watching either.

    Would rather gouge out my eyes with a spork dipped in lemon juice.

  136. 136.

    schrodinger's cat

    January 14, 2016 at 9:47 pm

    I haven’t yet watched a single debate, will tune in after the nominees are selected. I am getting my coverage through the Juicer lens, more entertaining and less aggravating.

  137. 137.

    MomSense

    January 14, 2016 at 9:47 pm

    Carson is complaining about the comment sections as if it is the progressives who make them cesspools.
    And now with the secularists have no values BS.

  138. 138.

    mike in dc

    January 14, 2016 at 9:48 pm

    Next up: how many guns should Americans own, at minimum, to be safe?

  139. 139.

    Really?

    January 14, 2016 at 9:48 pm

    “Facebook research.” The worst part is that you can’t even get a decent cabin in the woods anymore thank you Ted Ka-freakin-czyla-nis-z-jksi

  140. 140.

    Mandalay

    January 14, 2016 at 9:49 pm

    Carson showing us what a brain on drugs sounds like. He just gave a stream of consciousness that was pure drivel.

  141. 141.

    Baud

    January 14, 2016 at 9:49 pm

    @MomSense:

    Carson is complaining about the comment sections as if it is the progressives who make them cesspools.

    I didn’t know he read this blog.

  142. 142.

    Adam L Silverman

    January 14, 2016 at 9:50 pm

    I hate to break it to Dr. Carson, but there is a Judaic tradition and there is a Christian tradition. There is no Judeo-Christian tradition. Judaism, as a system of beliefs, including its sub-systems/sects, is agnostic towards Christianity. Christianity as a system of beliefs, including its sub-systems/sects, presumes that it subsumes and replaces Judaism, its errors and inaccuracies, and supercedes it by replacing its emphasis on right behavior with an emphasis on right belief.

  143. 143.

    amk

    January 14, 2016 at 9:51 pm

    @Baud: why aren’t you at that stage?

  144. 144.

    dmsilev

    January 14, 2016 at 9:51 pm

    @Baud: Fess up. You’re really Ben Carson.

  145. 145.

    NotMax

    January 14, 2016 at 9:51 pm

    @Mandalay

    Dr. Ben Casey Spacey.

  146. 146.

    dmsilev

    January 14, 2016 at 9:52 pm

    3 million people talking about guns on Facebook, compared to probably 3 billion people talking about cats.

  147. 147.

    amk

    January 14, 2016 at 9:52 pm

    @MomSense:

    “Carson is complaining about the comment sections ”

    You mean like gop debate?

  148. 148.

    Adam L Silverman

    January 14, 2016 at 9:52 pm

    @mike in dc: You need your primary handgun, then you need a backup, then you need your bailout gun. You also need at least one rifle and one shotgun. So I’m going with a minimum of five.

  149. 149.

    Really?

    January 14, 2016 at 9:52 pm

    “her incredible leadership in the face of that horrendous, liberal media-fueled desecration of a symbol of american freedom and liberty…”

  150. 150.

    schrodinger's cat

    January 14, 2016 at 9:52 pm

    @MomSense: OMG do all right wingers get their BS talking points from the same source. That is something I would except a Modi bhakt in India to say.

    ETA: I am referring to the secularist line.

  151. 151.

    Schlemazel

    January 14, 2016 at 9:52 pm

    @Adam L Silverman:
    Jeweled rice & Fesenjan

    Oh yeah!

  152. 152.

    mike in dc

    January 14, 2016 at 9:53 pm

    Smith and Wesson would like to extend their thoughts and prayers to the victims of gun violence.

  153. 153.

    Adam L Silverman

    January 14, 2016 at 9:53 pm

    @schrodinger’s cat: Yes, yes they do.

  154. 154.

    SiubhanDuinne

    January 14, 2016 at 9:53 pm

    Ooh, cool, I have a kind of PiP on my iPad. Now to see if it cuts off the minute I try to post a comment here.

  155. 155.

    ThresherK

    January 14, 2016 at 9:53 pm

    What kind of a test for a Republican is a Fox News debate?

    When I’m sitting here wishing for the moderator to have the pillow-fighting skillz of Anderson Cooper or John Dickerson…

  156. 156.

    MomSense

    January 14, 2016 at 9:54 pm

    @Really?:

    Surely there must be a bird sanctuary somewhere you could commandeer.

  157. 157.

    Baud

    January 14, 2016 at 9:54 pm

    @amk:

    I don’t want to answer questions about my birthplace.

    @dmsilev:

    If I were, I would lobotomize myself.

  158. 158.

    SiubhanDuinne

    January 14, 2016 at 9:54 pm

    @SiubhanDuinne:

    No, I’m cool. Okay, this is great!

  159. 159.

    mike in dc

    January 14, 2016 at 9:54 pm

    Apparently the GOP is now the party of expanding public spending on mental health care.

  160. 160.

    Mandalay

    January 14, 2016 at 9:55 pm

    Jeb!: “If you commit a crime with a gun in Florida you’re going to jail for a long, long time!”

    George Zimmerman begs to differ.

  161. 161.

    Really?

    January 14, 2016 at 9:55 pm

    @MomSense: I just meant you could imagine Bush saying something that insane.

  162. 162.

    Schlemazel

    January 14, 2016 at 9:55 pm

    @amk:
    It is a conspiracy between the RNC and the national media to deny him his rightful place next to Ayn Paul on that stage!!

  163. 163.

    Schlemazel

    January 14, 2016 at 9:56 pm

    @Adam L Silverman:
    Per room in your house you mean, right?

  164. 164.

    mike in dc

    January 14, 2016 at 9:56 pm

    Is the whole stage going to out themselves as proud Ammosexuals?

  165. 165.

    schrodinger's cat

    January 14, 2016 at 9:56 pm

    @amk: Happy Pongal! I made pongal, husband kitteh said it was delicious but it did not taste like pongal, no ghee.

  166. 166.

    trollhattan

    January 14, 2016 at 9:57 pm

    @Adam L Silverman:
    Would have laughed even more if I didn’t know and/or am related to people who think this way.

  167. 167.

    Adam L Silverman

    January 14, 2016 at 9:57 pm

    @Mandalay: He’s talking about the 10, 20, Life law. Commit a crime in possession of a gun its an automatic 10 year increase on one’s sentence. Commit a crime while brandishing a firearm, its an automatic 20 year increase on one’s sentence. Commit a crime while firing a firearm, it an automatic life sentence.

    Unfortunately Zimmerman was acquitted.

  168. 168.

    BillinGlendaleCA

    January 14, 2016 at 9:57 pm

    Marco’s getting a bit flustered.

  169. 169.

    Adam L Silverman

    January 14, 2016 at 9:57 pm

    @BillinGlendaleCA: You know you’re in trouble when Cavuto isn’t buying your answer.

  170. 170.

    MomSense

    January 14, 2016 at 9:58 pm

    @Really?:

    They are saying all kinds of insane things.

  171. 171.

    mike in dc

    January 14, 2016 at 9:59 pm

    @mike in dc:

    Clearly the answer is yes.

  172. 172.

    gene108

    January 14, 2016 at 9:59 pm

    @schrodinger’s cat:

    Happy Pongal! I made pongal, husband kitteh said it was delicious but it did not taste like pongal, no ghee.

    Did you at least have cashew nuts?

  173. 173.

    amk

    January 14, 2016 at 10:00 pm

    @schrodinger’s cat: LOL. Thanks. Tell the hubs you’re in murka and not in chennai, buster.

  174. 174.

    NotMax

    January 14, 2016 at 10:00 pm

    @ThersherK

    Even worse, it’s the Fox Business Network, an outlet whose regular audience is measured in the thousands. And not hundreds of thousands either. Some of the dayparts reel in a total viewership of 8,000.

  175. 175.

    Mary G

    January 14, 2016 at 10:01 pm

    I had to go look at the doggies in the last thread to calm down. I can’t decide which one of these yahoos is the worst Christie just called the president a petulant child. Talk about projecting. I want to slap his face.

  176. 176.

    Mandalay

    January 14, 2016 at 10:01 pm

    Christie bragging that he is going to kick Obama’s rear end out of the White House.

    How brave!

    How tough!

    How classy!

    How presidential!

  177. 177.

    amk

    January 14, 2016 at 10:01 pm

    @Baud: but planet klingon must be a surefire hit with voters, surely?

  178. 178.

    BillinGlendaleCA

    January 14, 2016 at 10:01 pm

    Cruz: DiFi’s coming for ya guns, BE AFRAID!

  179. 179.

    NotMax

    January 14, 2016 at 10:02 pm

    @schrodinger’s cat

    Not inclined to go and check if it already exists, but there’s got to be a market for a product called Ghee Whiz.

  180. 180.

    Mandalay

    January 14, 2016 at 10:02 pm

    @Adam L Silverman: Whoosh.

  181. 181.

    Adam L Silverman

    January 14, 2016 at 10:03 pm

    @Mandalay: How ignorant of the 22nd Amendment.

  182. 182.

    Really?

    January 14, 2016 at 10:04 pm

    The only rendition of “New York New York” that matters to the “Under 35 crowd.”

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ybxJ6g5oVgY

  183. 183.

    Baud

    January 14, 2016 at 10:04 pm

    @amk:

    I am not a merry man.

  184. 184.

    Adam L Silverman

    January 14, 2016 at 10:04 pm

    @Mandalay: Whoosh?

  185. 185.

    Mai.naem.mobile

    January 14, 2016 at 10:05 pm

    Wonder if Carson will be relegated to the kiddies table next time. Is there a next time?

    I know I sound superficial but this bunch of candidates are really physically unattractive. Rubio is a lightweight and Kasich does not appear to have a chance.

  186. 186.

    BillinGlendaleCA

    January 14, 2016 at 10:05 pm

    tRump just schooled Failgunner.

  187. 187.

    gene108

    January 14, 2016 at 10:05 pm

    @NotMax:

    Not inclined to go and check if it already exists, but there’s got to be a market for a product called Ghee Whiz.

    Clarified butter shot out of a nozzle from a pressurized can…I agree there has to be a market…

  188. 188.

    amk

    January 14, 2016 at 10:06 pm

    @Adam L Silverman: with the proviso, they don’t apply to fair skinned.

  189. 189.

    BillinGlendaleCA

    January 14, 2016 at 10:07 pm

    Bush wants a bigger navy and replace the B-52.

    ETA: I thought that was what the B-1 was.

  190. 190.

    SiubhanDuinne

    January 14, 2016 at 10:07 pm

    These people are all insane.

  191. 191.

    dmsilev

    January 14, 2016 at 10:07 pm

    @BillinGlendaleCA: Yeah, Trump just plain owned Cruz in that exchange.

  192. 192.

    Mandalay

    January 14, 2016 at 10:07 pm

    Trump prudently invokes 9/11 and rag-dolled Cruz over his “New York values” comment.

  193. 193.

    amk

    January 14, 2016 at 10:08 pm

    @Mandalay: So it’s official then. No more four more years ? Jus’ checkin’?

  194. 194.

    Doug R

    January 14, 2016 at 10:08 pm

    @NotMax: 8000? BJ gets 18,000 visitors a day.

  195. 195.

    Mai.naem.mobile

    January 14, 2016 at 10:08 pm

    Does FBN have some kind of filter on their cameras? All the candidates including Christie and Trumpy, and Bartiromo look skinnier.

  196. 196.

    Adam L Silverman

    January 14, 2016 at 10:09 pm

    @amk: Plenty of white criminals in Florida get caught up in the 10, 20, Life law. The big change has been, as I know you’re aware, is the effect of the Baxley Amendment known as the Stand Your Ground Law.

    In the case of Zimmerman he was acquitted at trial. I can’t prove it, but I’m relatively sure that even though Stand Your Ground wasn’t in play in his defense, that it still influenced members of the jury as its just in the air here, so to speak.

  197. 197.

    gene108

    January 14, 2016 at 10:09 pm

    @BillinGlendaleCA:

    Bush wants a bigger navy and replace the B-52.

    There are 22 aircraft carriers in the world. Not nuclear powered carriers, some are diesel electric with limited range without refueling.

    The U.S. has 11 of the 22 aircraft carriers on the planet, most of, if not all of ours, are nuclear powered.

    Our navy is so much more powerful than any other country’s it is mindboggling, if you stopped to think about it.

  198. 198.

    NotMax

    January 14, 2016 at 10:10 pm

    @Mai.naem.mobile

    You betchum, Red Ryder.

    Jan. 28 (Fox News)
    Feb. 6 (ABC)
    Feb. 13 (CBS)

    And more still.

  199. 199.

    ThresherK

    January 14, 2016 at 10:10 pm

    @NotMax: FBN? AKA the “DuMont Network of Fox”, God’s Waiting Room for the untelegenic, unappealing, lame and halt who can’t even survive in the welcoming bosom of Fox News?

  200. 200.

    Bill E Pilgrim

    January 14, 2016 at 10:12 pm

    They’re criticizing the religious right, wow.

    Oh wait that’s right, “radical clerics” to them doesn’t mean Franklin Graham and the like, does it.

  201. 201.

    BillinGlendaleCA

    January 14, 2016 at 10:12 pm

    @gene108: But, but… we have less ships than we had at the beginning of Desert Storm.

  202. 202.

    Archon

    January 14, 2016 at 10:12 pm

    This is surreal, Trump is actually the most Presidential candidate on stage right now.

    Damning with faint praise I know but there it is, I think Trump is going to be the nominee.

  203. 203.

    Ohio Mom

    January 14, 2016 at 10:13 pm

    Bush wants a stronger military so we can”get back in the game.” Sounds like personal wishful thinking…if only *he* could back in the game.

    Lots of name-dropping by Kash. Subtext: I am already in big league.

    Came in just after Cruz slammed NY. As someone who was born in the Bronx, I’m miffed. But what exactly did he say?

  204. 204.

    Adam L Silverman

    January 14, 2016 at 10:14 pm

    @Ohio Mom: He repeated his NY values thing. This used to be Birchirite for Jewish.

  205. 205.

    NotMax

    January 14, 2016 at 10:14 pm

    @Doug R

    Nielsen numbers.

    Too torpid at the moment to go dig up a recent link.

  206. 206.

    BillinGlendaleCA

    January 14, 2016 at 10:15 pm

    Miss Lindsey’s in the house!!!

  207. 207.

    Prescott Cactus

    January 14, 2016 at 10:15 pm

    @ThresherK:

    “DuMont Network of Fox”

    Cardiac patients with portfolios.

  208. 208.

    mike in dc

    January 14, 2016 at 10:16 pm

    Dr. Ben Carson thinks we should ask the military what they need to defeat ISIS. Amazing no one has thought of that yet.

  209. 209.

    Mike J

    January 14, 2016 at 10:16 pm

    @Adam L Silverman: Used to be, Gracie?

  210. 210.

    Ohio Mom

    January 14, 2016 at 10:17 pm

    @Adam L Silverman: thanks. Now doubly miffed (maiden name Schwarz).

  211. 211.

    Mandalay

    January 14, 2016 at 10:17 pm

    @SiubhanDuinne:

    These people are all insane.

    Well they are certainly all deluded. And apart from Carson, and possibly Kasich, they are utterly shameless. They will say anything to get a bump in the polls. They don’t really believe deeply in anything except winning.

  212. 212.

    Adam L Silverman

    January 14, 2016 at 10:17 pm

    @Mike J: You know what I meant.

  213. 213.

    BillinGlendaleCA

    January 14, 2016 at 10:17 pm

    @mike in dc: And we should bomb ISIS, why didn’t we think of that either?

  214. 214.

    Bill E Pilgrim

    January 14, 2016 at 10:18 pm

    Is there something especially horrific that a surgeon just came out in favor of collateral damage?

  215. 215.

    ThresherK

    January 14, 2016 at 10:18 pm

    @Ohio Mom: “He needs to redeem his AWOL wastrel of a brother. This time it’s personal!”

  216. 216.

    mike in dc

    January 14, 2016 at 10:20 pm

    Trump: Nope, on further review, I’m still an asshole.

  217. 217.

    NotMax

    January 14, 2016 at 10:20 pm

    @ThresherK

    Back when toiled at an ad agency in NYC, the in-house library had a near complete set of Nielsen rating booklets going all the way back.

    Would sometimes peruse ancient ones just for a spot of quick fun. Each network was color coded. Dumont’s color was pink.

    /really, really useless trivia

  218. 218.

    Anoniminous

    January 14, 2016 at 10:21 pm

    @Adam L Silverman:

    You forgot the assault rifle.

  219. 219.

    Prescott Cactus

    January 14, 2016 at 10:21 pm

    @Bill E Pilgrim:

    surgeon just came out in favor of collateral damage

    Professional courtesy, like a respiratory therapist who owns a smoke shop.

  220. 220.

    BillinGlendaleCA

    January 14, 2016 at 10:22 pm

    Gawd, Bush is awful.

  221. 221.

    Helen

    January 14, 2016 at 10:22 pm

    I am a cynic and a bitch. And even I cannot believe how much I hate these people.

    For Christmas my sister sent me a case of craft beer. Not my thing, but I just broke it out.

    I hate these fucking people.

  222. 222.

    Anne Laurie

    January 14, 2016 at 10:22 pm

    @Adam L Silverman: The GOP, party of tradition.

    All the old, bad, destructive traditions.

    Let’s go harass ‘n kill a bunch of Not-Our-Tribe people — for freedumb! And values!

    (and then we take their stuff, which was really our stuff all along, cuz reasons)

  223. 223.

    Bobby Thomson

    January 14, 2016 at 10:22 pm

    @Schlemazel: Knockin’ me out with those kaleidoscope thighs.

  224. 224.

    MomSense

    January 14, 2016 at 10:23 pm

    @Ohio Mom:

    The good news is that it backfired on Cruz.

  225. 225.

    schrodinger's cat

    January 14, 2016 at 10:23 pm

    @gene108: Yes and the peppercorns!

  226. 226.

    Adam L Silverman

    January 14, 2016 at 10:23 pm

    @Anoniminous: I indicated rifle. That can be a modern sporting rifle aka a black rifle aka an assault rifle. It could also be a lever action or a bolt action. I’m a big fan of personal choice…

  227. 227.

    Baud

    January 14, 2016 at 10:23 pm

    @Helen: Best comment.

  228. 228.

    amk

    January 14, 2016 at 10:24 pm

    @gene108: yup, w.o. ghee and cashew nuts, it ain’t pongal at all. what’s the point of indian festivals if we cannot kill ourselves with fat and sugar?

  229. 229.

    dmsilev

    January 14, 2016 at 10:24 pm

    @BillinGlendaleCA: Apparently George _is_ the smart one. At campaigning, anyway.

  230. 230.

    mike in dc

    January 14, 2016 at 10:24 pm

    Trump going full Lonesome Rhodes now.

  231. 231.

    Bill E Pilgrim

    January 14, 2016 at 10:24 pm

    Trump saying “we’re laughed at all over the world” is like Bernie Maddof saying “some people give this hedge fund field a bad name”.

  232. 232.

    geg6

    January 14, 2016 at 10:24 pm

    I can’t wait watch these idiots. You guys who are watching are made of much tougher stuff than I am.

  233. 233.

    Adam L Silverman

    January 14, 2016 at 10:25 pm

    @Schlemazel: Some people prefer that calculus. So, if that’s your thing, sure.

  234. 234.

    NotMax

    January 14, 2016 at 10:25 pm

    @Baud

    Looks as if you’ve found your White House press secretary.

    ;)

  235. 235.

    amk

    January 14, 2016 at 10:25 pm

    @Helen: It’s the craft beer talking. Get away from it.

  236. 236.

    Adam L Silverman

    January 14, 2016 at 10:26 pm

    @trollhattan: Probably should have doubled it, just in case one of these five primaries failed. I also forgot the trunk gun and the truck gun.

  237. 237.

    BillinGlendaleCA

    January 14, 2016 at 10:26 pm

    @mike in dc: That may win him the nomination.

  238. 238.

    Bobby Thomson

    January 14, 2016 at 10:27 pm

    @Adam L Silverman: used to be?

  239. 239.

    Adam L Silverman

    January 14, 2016 at 10:27 pm

    @Anne Laurie: Tradition! Now I’ve got Fiddler on the Roof earworms. Thanks!

  240. 240.

    Baud

    January 14, 2016 at 10:27 pm

    @NotMax:

    Yep.

    “I am a cynic and a bitch. What the fuck you wanna ask me, Karl?”

  241. 241.

    ThresherK

    January 14, 2016 at 10:27 pm

    @NotMax: What color was used for the Overmeyer Network?

    /even uselesser trivia

    To be fair to Allan DuMont, building a TV network which was not overlaid on the profits and infrastructure of a radio network was a dragon that killed many knights.

  242. 242.

    Mai.naem.mobile

    January 14, 2016 at 10:28 pm

    Its my constitutional right as an American not to be forced to look at one of these ugly people for four freaking years.

  243. 243.

    MomSense

    January 14, 2016 at 10:28 pm

    We don’t have to keep everybody out. We just have to keep the bad guys out.

    That’s some plan Christie.

  244. 244.

    Adam L Silverman

    January 14, 2016 at 10:29 pm

    @Bobby Thomson: Again, you know what I meant.

  245. 245.

    Bill E Pilgrim

    January 14, 2016 at 10:29 pm

    Rubio announces a motivation test for immigration. Officials will be issued sincerity-sensing goggles.

  246. 246.

    Baud

    January 14, 2016 at 10:30 pm

    @MomSense:

    Time to change the immigration form.

  247. 247.

    NotMax

    January 14, 2016 at 10:30 pm

    Love that the second tier “debate” didn’t even rate a front page post.

  248. 248.

    Mandalay

    January 14, 2016 at 10:30 pm

    Carson does Palin: “There isn’t a single problem that can’t be solved with common sense”.

    Jesus Christ.

  249. 249.

    Anne Laurie

    January 14, 2016 at 10:31 pm

    @Adam L Silverman:

    Probably should have doubled it, just in case one of these five primaries failed. I also forgot the trunk gun and the truck gun.

    I think it’s like the old joke about women and shoes — if you know exactly how many you own, you don’t own enough.

  250. 250.

    BillinGlendaleCA

    January 14, 2016 at 10:31 pm

    Bush sounds like HRC.

  251. 251.

    JPL

    January 14, 2016 at 10:32 pm

    Since I’m not watching, I was confused by some of the comments. I went to the Guardian to read their blog and it’s not better. I assume the debate is a bloody mess. Right?

  252. 252.

    amk

    January 14, 2016 at 10:32 pm

    @NotMax: with out the pouting junior, it wasn’t going to great any way.

  253. 253.

    Bill E Pilgrim

    January 14, 2016 at 10:32 pm

    The FOX striped-suited guy’s vocal fry is disturbing.

  254. 254.

    Adam L Silverman

    January 14, 2016 at 10:32 pm

    @Mandalay: These guys wouldn’t last five minutes at any of the five war colleges or the Eisenhower School. One of the major points of the curriculum at all of them is how to deal with ill structured (what we used to call wicked) problems. None of them are solvable with common sense. In fact most of them are only manageable.

  255. 255.

    amk

    January 14, 2016 at 10:32 pm

    @Anne Laurie: sexist!

  256. 256.

    Baud

    January 14, 2016 at 10:32 pm

    @JPL: I’m not watching either. Just having fun with the comments tonight.

  257. 257.

    Suzanne

    January 14, 2016 at 10:33 pm

    I’m watching the debate now. HOLY FUCK I HATE THESE PEOPLE.

  258. 258.

    BillinGlendaleCA

    January 14, 2016 at 10:33 pm

    @JPL: Yup.

  259. 259.

    Adam L Silverman

    January 14, 2016 at 10:33 pm

    @Anne Laurie: some do make that argument.

  260. 260.

    NotMax

    January 14, 2016 at 10:34 pm

    @ThreserK

    Ah, UHF stations.

    The wavelet of the future.

    Until the tide went out.

  261. 261.

    mike in dc

    January 14, 2016 at 10:34 pm

    God I want to call in an AC-130 strike on that debate.

  262. 262.

    Heliopause

    January 14, 2016 at 10:36 pm

    Bold prediction: Drudge instant poll will have Trump winning.

  263. 263.

    Adam L Silverman

    January 14, 2016 at 10:36 pm

    @Anne Laurie: @amk: I will say that I have a decent amount of shoes for a guy. Partially because I have about six pairs of different dress shoes because its coats and ties at the office (shirts and pants optional… ewwwwww!!!!). I prefer cowboy boots for casual and I’ve got four pairs of those. I’ve got a couple of pairs of combat boots and a pair of under the ankle tactical style shoes for work in an operational environment. And I always have two pairs of workout shoes at the same time – same make and model – that I alternate by day so I don’t wear them out too fast.

  264. 264.

    BillinGlendaleCA

    January 14, 2016 at 10:36 pm

    @Heliopause: Yup.

  265. 265.

    dmsilev

    January 14, 2016 at 10:36 pm

    @mike in dc: The problem is that the GOP front-runners would immediately become Rand Paul and Carly Fiorina. I’m not really sure that’s an improvement.

  266. 266.

    Helen

    January 14, 2016 at 10:36 pm

    @NotMax: @Baud:

    BAUD 2016!!!!!

    Plus me!

  267. 267.

    BillinGlendaleCA

    January 14, 2016 at 10:37 pm

    Marco’s not looking good tonight.

    ETA: Maybe he’s thirsty.

  268. 268.

    dmsilev

    January 14, 2016 at 10:37 pm

    Obamacare a “certified job killer”. That would be the same certification board that Rand Paul set up to certify himself?

  269. 269.

    amk

    January 14, 2016 at 10:38 pm

    @Adam L Silverman: bragging rights?

  270. 270.

    Baud

    January 14, 2016 at 10:38 pm

    @Helen:

    Baud and Helen sounds like the title of a quirky indie film.

  271. 271.

    Old Dan and Little Anne

    January 14, 2016 at 10:38 pm

    Rubio spit out about 9 straight talking points sans water. Getting stronger!

  272. 272.

    Baud

    January 14, 2016 at 10:38 pm

    @BillinGlendaleCA: He’s always thirsty.

  273. 273.

    Mandalay

    January 14, 2016 at 10:38 pm

    Rubio: “Obamacare is a job killer”.

  274. 274.

    Adam L Silverman

    January 14, 2016 at 10:38 pm

    @BillinGlendaleCA: Too much Starbucks:
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fEYd20x2ZII

  275. 275.

    Gin & Tonic

    January 14, 2016 at 10:38 pm

    @Adam L Silverman: I own 0. I guess I’m going to die a violent death, eh?

  276. 276.

    NotMax

    January 14, 2016 at 10:39 pm

    What, no Drop the Hammer 2.0?

    (Or is it three, four, five or six point zero by now?)

  277. 277.

    Adam L Silverman

    January 14, 2016 at 10:39 pm

    @amk: No, just trying to reinforce your sexism charge. You’re welcome.

  278. 278.

    Old Dan and Little Anne

    January 14, 2016 at 10:40 pm

    Jeb is so motherfucking pathetic it is surreal.

  279. 279.

    GregB

    January 14, 2016 at 10:40 pm

    @Mandalay:

    Or sappy bromides.

  280. 280.

    Adam L Silverman

    January 14, 2016 at 10:40 pm

    @Gin & Tonic: shoes or guns? This topic of conversation has drifted a bit.

  281. 281.

    mike in dc

    January 14, 2016 at 10:40 pm

    Jeb! and Trump briefly cross swords. Ew. I’m just going to leave that image in your minds. Because I’m evil that way.

  282. 282.

    Baud

    January 14, 2016 at 10:41 pm

    Stop talking about how pathetic Jeb! is. It makes me want to watch.

  283. 283.

    Adam L Silverman

    January 14, 2016 at 10:41 pm

    @Old Dan and Little Anne: He just needs to walk over and punch Trump in the face. Or kick him in the nuts. If he did that when Trump calls him weak, I’d vote for Jeb.

  284. 284.

    JPL

    January 14, 2016 at 10:41 pm

    Who is winning? In the repub debate someone is always winning..

  285. 285.

    Suzanne

    January 14, 2016 at 10:42 pm

    HOLY SHIT, THIS IS THE FUNNIEST THING IVE EVER SEEN.

    My kid just said, “Oh, good, glad this is on. I was feeling like my IQ was getting a little bit too high.”

  286. 286.

    BillinGlendaleCA

    January 14, 2016 at 10:42 pm

    @JPL: tRump’s winning.

  287. 287.

    GregB

    January 14, 2016 at 10:43 pm

    I have missed this whole shit show.

    Who can sum it up best?

  288. 288.

    BillinGlendaleCA

    January 14, 2016 at 10:43 pm

    Failgunner Ted’s answer was too nuanced for the GOP.

  289. 289.

    Baud

    January 14, 2016 at 10:43 pm

    @Suzanne: How old is your kid?

  290. 290.

    schrodinger's cat

    January 14, 2016 at 10:43 pm

    @Adam L Silverman: So you are Carrie Bradshaw of Balloon Juice?

  291. 291.

    BillinGlendaleCA

    January 14, 2016 at 10:44 pm

    @GregB: No way. No pain, no gain.

  292. 292.

    Baud

    January 14, 2016 at 10:44 pm

    @GregB:

    Who can sum it up best?

    Move to Canada if we lose in November.

  293. 293.

    Mike in NC

    January 14, 2016 at 10:44 pm

    In a worst case scenario I would like to see Trump elected, to guarantee the demise of the GOP that wankers like Lindsey Graham and George Will have wrung their hands over. He would be a national disgrace and international embarrassment who would accomplish exactly nothing in office. Scum like Bush, Cruz, Christie, or Rubio would be Tea Party darlings determined to turn the clock back 100 years.

  294. 294.

    SiubhanDuinne

    January 14, 2016 at 10:44 pm

    Honestly, every single person on that stage is infuckingsane.

    I include the moderators.

    They are all terrifyingly stupid and demented.

  295. 295.

    Helen

    January 14, 2016 at 10:44 pm

    @Suzanne:

    Come and sit by me. But understand that I’ve already got the job.

  296. 296.

    Old Dan and Little Anne

    January 14, 2016 at 10:45 pm

    @Adam L Silverman: He’d trip and roll off the stage before reaching The Donald.

  297. 297.

    SiubhanDuinne

    January 14, 2016 at 10:45 pm

    @Suzanne:

    I want to marry her.

  298. 298.

    Mandalay

    January 14, 2016 at 10:45 pm

    @JPL:

    I assume the debate is a bloody mess. Right?

    Correct. The usual shitfest.

  299. 299.

    Baud

    January 14, 2016 at 10:46 pm

    @Old Dan and Little Anne: Ha! He so would.

  300. 300.

    amk

    January 14, 2016 at 10:46 pm

    @Adam L Silverman:

    My bad. I have as many shoes as a woman = sexist librul.

    There. Fixed. HappY?

  301. 301.

    Suzanne

    January 14, 2016 at 10:46 pm

    @Baud: She just turned twelve.

    @SiubhanDuinne: She’s awesome.

  302. 302.

    lamh36

    January 14, 2016 at 10:46 pm

    @JimGoldgeier
    Obama called “child” for second time tonight – can we agree if we are going to respect 2nd amendment we are going to respect presidency too?

  303. 303.

    Gin & Tonic

    January 14, 2016 at 10:46 pm

    @Adam L Silverman: Guns. Here in New England in January we need shoes.

  304. 304.

    Adam L Silverman

    January 14, 2016 at 10:47 pm

    @schrodinger’s cat: I have no idea who that is.

  305. 305.

    Baud

    January 14, 2016 at 10:47 pm

    @Suzanne: She’s got her mom’s smart ass. I was not that bright at 12.

  306. 306.

    BillinGlendaleCA

    January 14, 2016 at 10:47 pm

    Joisey Whale: Those poor corporations are being so mistreated.

  307. 307.

    Bill E Pilgrim

    January 14, 2016 at 10:47 pm

    @mike in dc:

    Jeb! and Trump briefly cross swords. Ew. I’m just going to leave that image in your minds.

    At least one of them was wearing punctuation, as you always should.

  308. 308.

    Adam L Silverman

    January 14, 2016 at 10:48 pm

    @SiubhanDuinne: and the Money Honey has not aged well.

  309. 309.

    Heliopause

    January 14, 2016 at 10:48 pm

    Chris Christie looks like Rich Little with a coupla extra pounds. I can’t be the first to ever notice this.

  310. 310.

    Adam L Silverman

    January 14, 2016 at 10:48 pm

    @Old Dan and Little Anne: I’d pay money to see that.

  311. 311.

    Mai.naem.mobile

    January 14, 2016 at 10:48 pm

    @Adam L Silverman: So,Imelda, how do you feel Obama has failed the Philippines?

  312. 312.

    GregB

    January 14, 2016 at 10:48 pm

    @Adam L Silverman:

    I remember when the term Judeo-Christian values was scoffed at as politically correct inclusive gibberish.

  313. 313.

    Adam L Silverman

    January 14, 2016 at 10:49 pm

    @amk: No, now I’m confused.

  314. 314.

    Anne Laurie

    January 14, 2016 at 10:49 pm

    @Adam L Silverman:

    He just needs to walk over and punch Trump in the face. Or kick him in the nuts. If he did that when Trump calls him weak, I’d vote for Jeb.

    Trump would make a fine Guild leader in Ankh-Morpork, that’s for sure. He *thinks* he could be Patrician, but he’s wrong about that.

    Jeb wouldn’t make a good leader of anywhere, real or imaginary, from what I can tell. He’s a born associate vice president — the guy whose best decision was picking his father (or father-in-law), the one who can’t be trusted except to hand out pink slips or get yelled at by ripped-off clients.

  315. 315.

    NotMax

    January 14, 2016 at 10:49 pm

    @lamh36

    Dog whistle. Even these bozos steer clear of calling him “boy.”

    Thus far.

  316. 316.

    Ohio Mom

    January 14, 2016 at 10:50 pm

    @SiubhanDuinne: Yes, each is stupider, more repulsive and more vile than the last.

  317. 317.

    schrodinger's cat

    January 14, 2016 at 10:50 pm

    @Adam L Silverman: She is the character from Sex and the City who had lots of shoes, played by Sarah Jessica Parker.

  318. 318.

    BillinGlendaleCA

    January 14, 2016 at 10:50 pm

    @SiubhanDuinne: BTW, you were correct this morning about the building I used to work in was the one with the dodgy elevators from LA Law.

  319. 319.

    Adam L Silverman

    January 14, 2016 at 10:50 pm

    @Gin & Tonic: Okay, tracking. Yes, you’re going to die, defenseless and someone on a firearms blog will mock you in the comments with a link to the local news coverage.

  320. 320.

    mike in dc

    January 14, 2016 at 10:50 pm

    Dr. Ben Carson proposes a flat tax with no exemptions. Regulations are a regressive tax because making sure the food we eat won’t kill us is terribly unfair to something something OMG THIS DEBATE CAN DIE IN A FIRE.

  321. 321.

    JPL

    January 14, 2016 at 10:50 pm

    Maria Bartiroma is the person who interviewed Sarah. She spoke highly about Sarah’s intellect. Just remember that for all of you watching her performance tonight.

  322. 322.

    MomSense

    January 14, 2016 at 10:51 pm

    @Suzanne:

    How do you feel about arranged marriage?

  323. 323.

    Adam L Silverman

    January 14, 2016 at 10:51 pm

    @Anne Laurie: Sounds about right.

  324. 324.

    Adam L Silverman

    January 14, 2016 at 10:52 pm

    @schrodinger’s cat: Sure, if you say so.

  325. 325.

    Mandalay

    January 14, 2016 at 10:52 pm

    These bozos who want a flat tax with no deductions would be slung out of office in a New York minute.

    Even Rand Paul supports the mortgage tax deduction.

  326. 326.

    Adam L Silverman

    January 14, 2016 at 10:52 pm

    @mike in dc: I’m pretty sure Dr. Carson’s mom, as good a woman as she seems to have been, never had to finance a fleet of nuclear powered aircraft carriers.

  327. 327.

    Lord Baldrick

    January 14, 2016 at 10:53 pm

    @Suzanne: 12? Sounds like Kid has been raised by pretty Awesome Mom.

  328. 328.

    Anne Laurie

    January 14, 2016 at 10:53 pm

    @Suzanne: You have raised your daughter well!

  329. 329.

    NotMax

    January 14, 2016 at 10:53 pm

    @mike in dc

    Because that worked out so very well for Steve Forbes’ campaign.

  330. 330.

    Suzanne

    January 14, 2016 at 10:54 pm

    These people are absolutely shameless. Just reprehensible.

  331. 331.

    Ohio Mom

    January 14, 2016 at 10:54 pm

    Have to take a moment to appreciate that they are all attacking each other.

  332. 332.

    BillinGlendaleCA

    January 14, 2016 at 10:54 pm

    Arthur Laffer! Drink!

  333. 333.

    Old Dan and Little Anne

    January 14, 2016 at 10:54 pm

    I’ll kill IRS employees with post cards!

  334. 334.

    Mai.naem.mobile

    January 14, 2016 at 10:54 pm

    Idiot Rubio doesn’t realize most people aren’t going to know what a VAT tax is. And Cruz is a fvcking moron because who’s going to collect taxes? The Tax Collection Agency? Ohhhh,okay dimass.

  335. 335.

    Suzanne

    January 14, 2016 at 10:54 pm

    @MomSense: I am a big fan of premarital fucking. Does that count?

  336. 336.

    Baud

    January 14, 2016 at 10:55 pm

    @BillinGlendaleCA:

    We’re gonna win 47 states!

  337. 337.

    SiubhanDuinne

    January 14, 2016 at 10:55 pm

    @Adam L Silverman:

    You are a master of understatement. She is a botoxed, silicone-injected, over-made-up hag.

    Am I ageist for saying this? Fucking sue me. She is hideous.

  338. 338.

    Helen

    January 14, 2016 at 10:55 pm

    Rubio “Now you got Europe”

    These people have never left America.

  339. 339.

    Heliopause

    January 14, 2016 at 10:55 pm

    If I were a sex slave and my choice was Rubio or Cruz I would choose the following.

  340. 340.

    MomSense

    January 14, 2016 at 10:55 pm

    @Suzanne:

    The audience is awful, too. The meaner the quip, the more they cheer.

  341. 341.

    MomSense

    January 14, 2016 at 10:56 pm

    @Helen:

    Yup

  342. 342.

    Baud

    January 14, 2016 at 10:56 pm

    @MomSense: So LePage voters then?

  343. 343.

    SiubhanDuinne

    January 14, 2016 at 10:56 pm

    @Ohio Mom:

    It’s actually kind of fascinating.

  344. 344.

    Mike in NC

    January 14, 2016 at 10:57 pm

    @lamh36: Christie likes to call Obama a petulant child. Trouble is there is video of that fat slob hugging him like a sobbing, needy toddler after Hurricane Sandy wrecked the Jersey shore.

  345. 345.

    Gin & Tonic

    January 14, 2016 at 10:57 pm

    @schrodinger’s cat: As a dude, I’ve found one of the keys to a long-lasting and harmonious marriage is to never say a word about shoes.

  346. 346.

    Heliopause

    January 14, 2016 at 10:57 pm

    We just had a flurry of Reagan references in the debate and somebody needs to send a paramedic to Matt Taibbi’s place to make sure he’s OK.

  347. 347.

    MomSense

    January 14, 2016 at 10:57 pm

    @Suzanne:

    Another no moral secularist!

  348. 348.

    BillinGlendaleCA

    January 14, 2016 at 10:57 pm

    Wait, I thought this was only 2 hours long. I may start drinking again, if this goes on too long.

  349. 349.

    Adam L Silverman

    January 14, 2016 at 10:58 pm

    @SiubhanDuinne: I was trying to be polite. Her looks were her selling point, it wasn’t her understanding of business or finance. I remember watching Matt Taibbi having to explain credit default swaps to her back in 2009 because she had no idea what they were. And she didn’t seem to understand his explanation, which was, I must say, really accessible for the lay person.

  350. 350.

    Mandalay

    January 14, 2016 at 10:58 pm

    Christie acts like a bar room brawler: “No! You had your chance Marco….AND YOU BLEW IT!”

    Christie is just vile.

  351. 351.

    MomSense

    January 14, 2016 at 10:58 pm

    @Baud:

    Ayuh.

  352. 352.

    Anne Laurie

    January 14, 2016 at 10:58 pm

    @Adam L Silverman: To be honest, I didn’t really start accumulating shoes until I was well into my 30s and working in an office where such things were noted on one’s performance record. And I have more pairs now than when I was working in that office, partially because the internet makes it too damned easy to find bargains, partially because pretty shoes in odd sizes are more available, but mostly because they don’t wear out if they’re rarely used. I have some pumps that are old enough to vote, which I can be sure of only because I remember buying them before we moved from the Midwest in 1989.

  353. 353.

    NotMax

    January 14, 2016 at 10:58 pm

    @Mai.naem.mobile

    VAT tax.

    Linguistically, is that like an ATM machine?

    Redundancy is a dish best not served at all. Let me say that again…

    :)

  354. 354.

    Gin & Tonic

    January 14, 2016 at 10:59 pm

    @Adam L Silverman: Sorry to hear that.

  355. 355.

    Adam L Silverman

    January 14, 2016 at 10:59 pm

    @BillinGlendaleCA: Injury time like in world cup soccer.

  356. 356.

    Suzanne

    January 14, 2016 at 10:59 pm

    @MomSense: Damn skippy.

  357. 357.

    GregB

    January 14, 2016 at 10:59 pm

    This is horrifying. All I can picture is Slim Pickens riding a nuclear missile and screaming “Yeehaw!”

  358. 358.

    David *Rafael* Koch

    January 14, 2016 at 11:00 pm

    @Mai.naem.mobile: That’s certainly possible. MGM created a filter they used to make Elizabeth Taylor look thin.

  359. 359.

    Adam L Silverman

    January 14, 2016 at 11:01 pm

    @Anne Laurie: My dress shoes, which is the bulk of the collection, was accumulated in the same way as yours.

  360. 360.

    Bill E Pilgrim

    January 14, 2016 at 11:01 pm

    It’s funny because maybe two years ago it seemed like Christie in the primaries would be “the bully”, but now, in this field of candidates you look at him and think “Meh, C+” on the bullying thing. Even though he’s exactly as obnoxious and combative as he always was.

  361. 361.

    Heliopause

    January 14, 2016 at 11:01 pm

    @Mai.naem.mobile:

    Idiot Rubio doesn’t realize most people aren’t going to know what a VAT tax is

    Don’t be dumb. Everybody knows it’s a tax on scotch whiskey.

  362. 362.

    Betty Cracker

    January 14, 2016 at 11:01 pm

    Why is this still on?

  363. 363.

    Adam L Silverman

    January 14, 2016 at 11:02 pm

    @Gin & Tonic: That analysis was according to the 2nd Amendment maximalists. Personally, I’ll give you at least a 50-50 shot.

  364. 364.

    Helen

    January 14, 2016 at 11:02 pm

    @SiubhanDuinne:

    Nah – you’re good. Isn’t she the one who fucked the guy she was reporting on? Really. I remember he had a plane.

    I remember watching her after the 2008 crisis. She looked like a deer in the headlights and just kept saying “The people on Wall Street need to get their bonuses. We can’t fire them. They are so smart”

    With no irony at all.

  365. 365.

    mike in dc

    January 14, 2016 at 11:02 pm

    Christie is asked what he would do to make sure cops can kill minorities freely again.

    Christie throws in a sanctuary cities reference to score the extra point.

  366. 366.

    MomSense

    January 14, 2016 at 11:03 pm

    How long is this thing going to go on?

  367. 367.

    Adam L Silverman

    January 14, 2016 at 11:03 pm

    @Betty Cracker: Injury time like in world cup soccer.

  368. 368.

    Baud

    January 14, 2016 at 11:03 pm

    @Betty Cracker: It’s not easy picking the next leader of the free world.

  369. 369.

    BillinGlendaleCA

    January 14, 2016 at 11:03 pm

    @Betty Cracker: Adam said it’s injury time.

  370. 370.

    beltane

    January 14, 2016 at 11:03 pm

    @Betty Cracker: Because the forces that took David Bowie and Alan Rickman from us also want to drown us in a deluge of hate and stupidity.

  371. 371.

    SiubhanDuinne

    January 14, 2016 at 11:03 pm

    @BillinGlendaleCA:

    If you ever saw the film version of How to Succeed in Business Without Really Trying, the building that was used as the exterior for International Widgets or whatever the company was called was in reality the Union Carbide building, where I worked for two or three years in the 1960s. It was wild when filming took place.

  372. 372.

    Ohio Mom

    January 14, 2016 at 11:03 pm

    I don’t think Trump understands what a blind trust is. Your wife and kids can’t run it.

  373. 373.

    NotMax

    January 14, 2016 at 11:03 pm

    Expect a headline tomorrow about a mysterious outbreak of elephant suicides.

  374. 374.

    dmsilev

    January 14, 2016 at 11:04 pm

    Was that a “we want Rand” chant? That’s probably the winner for “most pathetic” for tonight.

  375. 375.

    Adam L Silverman

    January 14, 2016 at 11:04 pm

    @Helen: Jack Welch from GE. His affair was with Suzy Wetlaufer.
    http://nymag.com/nymetro/news/media/features/5976/

  376. 376.

    JPL

    January 14, 2016 at 11:05 pm

    This is from the Guardian.. heehe
    If you spaced out during the economics lesson of the last 20 minutes, you weren’t the only one – as demonstrated by Donald Trump’s limited understanding of macroeconomics. But then, Americans’ economic literacy is so.e of the worst in the developed world.

  377. 377.

    ThresherK

    January 14, 2016 at 11:05 pm

    @NotMax: The highest TV number I ever witnessed was WWHT, channel 68, from New York City. This covered a distance of over 60 miles to my Connecticut home on one of those saucer-sized loop antennas and was quite viewable in the summer when conditions favored that end of the spectrum.

    I was not aware that channels 70-83 were removed from TV service in 1983. To be fair,who else knew?

  378. 378.

    Anoniminous

    January 14, 2016 at 11:05 pm

    @Anne Laurie:

    working in an office where such things were noted on one’s performance record.

    Excuse me but my brain just went sproing

    What POSSIBLE affect could one’s shoes have on one’s ability to do one’s job?

  379. 379.

    Gin & Tonic

    January 14, 2016 at 11:05 pm

    @Adam L Silverman: So I’ll either die or I won’t. OK, pretty much like before.

  380. 380.

    BillinGlendaleCA

    January 14, 2016 at 11:05 pm

    @SiubhanDuinne: I worked in the “444” building a few years after LA Law had wrapped.

  381. 381.

    dmsilev

    January 14, 2016 at 11:05 pm

    @Ohio Mom:

    I don’t think Trump understands

    We’re going to be typing that phrase a lot over the next few months.

  382. 382.

    SFAW

    January 14, 2016 at 11:06 pm

    @schrodinger’s cat:

    So you are Carrie Bradshaw of Balloon Juice?

    And he has the four Super Bowl rings to prove it.

  383. 383.

    Adam L Silverman

    January 14, 2016 at 11:06 pm

    @Helen: Oops. apparently Maria is alleged to have had one with a Citigroup Exec:
    http://www.forbes.com/2007/02/02/mariagate-citi-media-oped-cz_dk_0202mediagate.html

  384. 384.

    SiubhanDuinne

    January 14, 2016 at 11:06 pm

    @Adam L Silverman:

    Okay, so dumb, stupid, and ignorant.

  385. 385.

    Anne Laurie

    January 14, 2016 at 11:07 pm

    @Gin & Tonic:

    As a dude, I’ve found one of the keys to a long-lasting and harmonious marriage is to never say a word about shoes.

    Not true. If your Spousal Unit asks, are these shoes not cute? you should always agree that they are indeed cute, On her. Even (especially) when you haven’t got the faintest idea how they are different from the other pairs of cute shoes she owns.

    In return, I always admire my Spousal Unit’s tool purchases, even if I have no idea what they’re for, or why we need yet another cordless automatic angle-bending rechargeable drill, with bonus titanium blades and interchangeable chuck keys.

  386. 386.

    amk

    January 14, 2016 at 11:07 pm

    @Anne Laurie:

    odd sizes?

    Like a six and a seven.

  387. 387.

    BillinGlendaleCA

    January 14, 2016 at 11:07 pm

    @JPL: Most Americans don’t understand the graduated income tax system.

  388. 388.

    Adam L Silverman

    January 14, 2016 at 11:07 pm

    @Gin & Tonic: yep, pretty much. One thing is for sure: you will not get out of life alive.

  389. 389.

    Heliopause

    January 14, 2016 at 11:08 pm

    Kasich is in a celebrity death match with Bush for “candidate competing for the reasonable vote amongst the least reasonable quintile of the population.” Fuck, at least Rubio is trying.

  390. 390.

    Adam L Silverman

    January 14, 2016 at 11:08 pm

    @SiubhanDuinne: Yep.

  391. 391.

    GregB

    January 14, 2016 at 11:09 pm

    Trump thinks a blind trust is one administered by Ronnie Milsap.

  392. 392.

    SiubhanDuinne

    January 14, 2016 at 11:09 pm

    @NotMax:

    Linguistically, is that like an ATM machine?

    It is like an automatic ATM machine. With a teller.

  393. 393.

    Bill E Pilgrim

    January 14, 2016 at 11:10 pm

    None of these people make the slightest bit of sense. Even the guy who almost seems to make sense makes no sense.

    The rest of them were actually pushing back on Trump’s “Just impose really yuge tariffs!” idiocy, pointing out why it was idiotic, but then they’d conclude with “The real way to deal with China is to abolish the IRS”.

    This is a WTF festival and no foolin.

  394. 394.

    Bobby Thomson

    January 14, 2016 at 11:10 pm

    @Gin & Tonic: Valar morghulis.

  395. 395.

    mike in dc

    January 14, 2016 at 11:10 pm

    Now it’s a war to see which Latino candidate hates Latinos more.

  396. 396.

    Heliopause

    January 14, 2016 at 11:11 pm

    Somebody correct me if I’m wrong but it’s way after nighty-nights on the east coast. Why are they still talking?

  397. 397.

    Gin & Tonic

    January 14, 2016 at 11:11 pm

    @Anne Laurie: Ah, you see, I’ve loved her long time. She knows better than to ask my opinion of her shoes.

  398. 398.

    SiubhanDuinne

    January 14, 2016 at 11:11 pm

    @MomSense:

    We are at the magic time of 11:11

  399. 399.

    David *Rafael* Koch

    January 14, 2016 at 11:11 pm

    Obama to Halt New Coal Mining Leases on Public Lands

    The move would represent a significant setback for the coal industry, effectively freezing new coal production on federal lands and sending a signal to energy markets that could turn investors away from an already flailing industry. President Obama telegraphed the step in his State of the Union address on Tuesday night, saying, “I’m going to push to change the way we manage our oil and coal resources so that they better reflect the costs they impose on taxpayers and our planet.”

    G.O.A.T.

  400. 400.

    Old Dan and Little Anne

    January 14, 2016 at 11:12 pm

    Rubio has dumbo ears and a lisp. He’s funny railing on Cruz at least. Millisecond vetoes! Marco 2016!

  401. 401.

    Mai.naem.mobile

    January 14, 2016 at 11:13 pm

    @Helen: Maria was supposed to have fvcked a Citi bigwig. I believe he got canned. Also, don’t forget Maria asking Anthony Weiner during the O-Care debates: ‘If Medicare is so great how come you’re not on it?’

  402. 402.

    dmsilev

    January 14, 2016 at 11:13 pm

    This is never going to end, is it?

  403. 403.

    BillinGlendaleCA

    January 14, 2016 at 11:13 pm

    @SiubhanDuinne: That only works for ending world wars.

  404. 404.

    amk

    January 14, 2016 at 11:13 pm

    @Anne Laurie:

    interchangeable chuck keys are the real tools of the trade. You just won’t understand.

  405. 405.

    Adam L Silverman

    January 14, 2016 at 11:13 pm

    Anyone notice that now that he’s worked up, Senator Cruz’s twang has disappeared?

  406. 406.

    ThresherK

    January 14, 2016 at 11:13 pm

    Not that I ever cared for Maria Baritomo’s acumen, but once Sam Bee hit The Daily Show as the Cash Cow, the “Money Honey’s” ship had sailed.

  407. 407.

    Helen

    January 14, 2016 at 11:14 pm

    @Adam L Silverman:

    Nope. I know all about Jack.

    Just looked it up. It was Maria and Todd Thompson in 2007. I always get put in moderation when I link.

    Google them.

  408. 408.

    BillinGlendaleCA

    January 14, 2016 at 11:15 pm

    Bush doesn’t understand encryption.

  409. 409.

    Adam L Silverman

    January 14, 2016 at 11:15 pm

    @Helen: I did and came back with a separate reply on that as soon as I finished the Welch reply. Its comment # 383.

  410. 410.

    NotMax

    January 14, 2016 at 11:15 pm

    @ThresherK

    On a rare good night, if one stood just so while clutching the antenna, could get an intermittent fuzzy picture from WVIA (PBS, Scranton) channel 72 when was living in the boonies of northeast PA.

    Only UHF station I made a point of tuning in semi-regularly when in the NYC area was channel 68 from somewhere in NJ, longtime home of The Uncle Floyd Show.

  411. 411.

    mike in dc

    January 14, 2016 at 11:16 pm

    Maybe they should just keep the debate going until they go completely loopy and punchdrunk. So, another 5 minutes or so.

  412. 412.

    dmsilev

    January 14, 2016 at 11:16 pm

    Closing statements coming up! Freedom!

  413. 413.

    Mary G

    January 14, 2016 at 11:17 pm

    This has been going on for decades. I fell asleep in self defense for a few minutes there.

  414. 414.

    BillinGlendaleCA

    January 14, 2016 at 11:17 pm

    I didn’t start drinking again, but did turn to chocolate.

  415. 415.

    Bill E Pilgrim

    January 14, 2016 at 11:18 pm

    How did Jeb! Bush ever get elected to anything? Whiny, defensive, sheesh. It’s hard to imagine.

  416. 416.

    Ohio Mom

    January 14, 2016 at 11:18 pm

    Closing statements on their way! Hooray,I’ll be able to stop staring at this seven car pile up.

  417. 417.

    Gin & Tonic

    January 14, 2016 at 11:20 pm

    @BillinGlendaleCA: I’d be shocked if any of those bozos did.

  418. 418.

    Mandalay

    January 14, 2016 at 11:20 pm

    @BillinGlendaleCA:

    Bush doesn’t understand encryption.

    You beat me to it – I was just about to say the same thing (a bit less diplomatically).

  419. 419.

    Suzanne

    January 14, 2016 at 11:20 pm

    The most frightening thing is that Trump is the least frightening of them all up there.

  420. 420.

    BillinGlendaleCA

    January 14, 2016 at 11:20 pm

    Hey, Kasich’s dad was a mailman, what a surprise.

  421. 421.

    Matt McIrvin

    January 14, 2016 at 11:21 pm

    @mike in dc: Well, you’ve got three equipped weapon slots, but you can only have one Exotic weapon equipped at a time, so if you have, say, Hawkmoon, Hereafter and Dragon’s Breath, you also need Legendary weapons as backups to swap in place of the Exotics so that you can equip the Exotic you really want to use at any given time. Also, I find that it’s useful to have a combo of a close-up weapon and a distance weapon, like a Scout Rifle as primary and a Sidearm or Shotgun as special, or a Hand Cannon as primary and a Sniper as special, and that leads to some additional swapping around. And then there’s the elemental damage to consider: some kinds of enemies have shields particularly susceptible to Solar, Arc or Void damage, so a mix of all three helps, especially the ones that don’t correspond to your character subclass abilities. So you see the numbers can start to add up.

  422. 422.

    Helen

    January 14, 2016 at 11:21 pm

    @Adam L Silverman:

    LOL you and I both googled and found two different plane guys.

  423. 423.

    BillinGlendaleCA

    January 14, 2016 at 11:21 pm

    @Suzanne: True.

  424. 424.

    Omnes Omnibus

    January 14, 2016 at 11:21 pm

    @Adam L Silverman: I will if no one stabs that portrait I keep secret from everyone…. FUCK!

  425. 425.

    Gin & Tonic

    January 14, 2016 at 11:21 pm

    @NotMax: OMG, the Uncle Floyd Show!! The only thing that got us through the first 4 months with our first baby, who never slept more than 90 minutes at a stretch.

  426. 426.

    amk

    January 14, 2016 at 11:22 pm

    @BillinGlendaleCA: the dolt couldn’t understand how his apple watch is making calls. google it just for fun,

  427. 427.

    Mandalay

    January 14, 2016 at 11:23 pm

    Christie: “I’ve spent my whole life fighting.”

    Probably the only truthful statement he made this evening.

  428. 428.

    Adam L Silverman

    January 14, 2016 at 11:24 pm

    @Helen: So is she alleged to have had two affairs then? With two different Citigroup execs? She must be great fun at parties.

  429. 429.

    JPL

    January 14, 2016 at 11:24 pm

    @dmsilev: Over there …whatever
    Face the music — come on boys, take ’em down!

    President Donald Trump, knows how
    To Make America Great
    Deal from strength or get crushed every time!”

    scary huh

  430. 430.

    ThresherK

    January 14, 2016 at 11:24 pm

    @NotMax: The Worst Kiddie Show of All Time!

    Jeez, he and Joe Franklin were a couple of hosts that mere print could not describe. And the decades cannot improve.

    ETA: Surreal doesn’t begin to describe it, and I was a full-fledged SCTV fan at the time. It’s like finding the source material that SCTV was made to satirize.

  431. 431.

    BillinGlendaleCA

    January 14, 2016 at 11:24 pm

    Oh, Dr. Carson woke up, sort of.

  432. 432.

    NotMax

    January 14, 2016 at 11:24 pm

    @Anne Laurie

    “Does this Sawzall make my butt look big?”

    Of course, should he ever gush over a stud finder, and you’re in a playful mood, grab hold of it, point it at him and announce it doesn’t seem to be working. ;)

  433. 433.

    Betty Cracker

    January 14, 2016 at 11:24 pm

    The anger thing doesn’t work for Rubio.

  434. 434.

    Helen

    January 14, 2016 at 11:24 pm

    @Mai.naem.mobile: And when he said “I am not old enough” she said “UGGG Ug HUH” and blew him off.

    She had NO IDEA WHAT THE FUCK MEDICARE WAS.

  435. 435.

    MomSense

    January 14, 2016 at 11:25 pm

    @SiubhanDuinne:

    They have sucked all the magic out of the world.

  436. 436.

    amk

    January 14, 2016 at 11:25 pm

    Jeb Bush. His brother’s intelligence and his father’s charm.

  437. 437.

    BillinGlendaleCA

    January 14, 2016 at 11:25 pm

    Failgunner Ted gets in a movie reference, “13 Hours”.

  438. 438.

    dmsilev

    January 14, 2016 at 11:25 pm

    Apparently Michael Bay bought ten seconds of Cruz as ad time for his Benghazi movie.

  439. 439.

    BillinGlendaleCA

    January 14, 2016 at 11:26 pm

    And it’s over!

  440. 440.

    Gin & Tonic

    January 14, 2016 at 11:26 pm

    @ThresherK: The Worst Kiddie Show of All Time!

    Yeah, which is why it was on at like 0230 or something.

  441. 441.

    JPL

    January 14, 2016 at 11:27 pm

    @Betty Cracker: Dave Weigel’s twitter feed links to someone who said Cruz collapsed. Is that true?

  442. 442.

    mike in dc

    January 14, 2016 at 11:28 pm

    Cruz promises Armageddon on Day 1. Trump promises that America will never lose again. I promise a unicorn in every pot, or something. The shitshow is over…for now.

  443. 443.

    Bill E Pilgrim

    January 14, 2016 at 11:29 pm

    @BillinGlendaleCA:

    I didn’t start drinking again, but did turn to chocolate.

    Very Biblical of you. Like Lot’s wife, but even better.

  444. 444.

    amk

    January 14, 2016 at 11:29 pm

    and nearly half the murkans would vote for any one of these dolts comfortably. god save the world.

  445. 445.

    BillinGlendaleCA

    January 14, 2016 at 11:30 pm

    @mike in dc:

    I promise a unicorn in every pot, or something.

    I thought Baud!!!2016!!! was doing that.

  446. 446.

    Helen

    January 14, 2016 at 11:30 pm

    @Adam L Silverman:

    Oh hey don’t be judgey. ;). I am fun at parties too. I just don’t party with plane owning Citicorp execs.

    Unfortunately.

  447. 447.

    Adam L Silverman

    January 14, 2016 at 11:31 pm

    @Helen: I’ll update your dossier.

  448. 448.

    Mandalay

    January 14, 2016 at 11:32 pm

    @Betty Cracker:

    The anger thing doesn’t work for Rubio.

    Despite all his tough talk he’s obviously still petrified about being up on a stage in front of the cameras and surrounded by grown ups. Sometimes he’ll go a few sentences mechanically spewing his script and then freeze, and look lost.

    The idea of Rubio running the country is far scarier than having Trump or Cruz in charge.

  449. 449.

    different-church-lady

    January 14, 2016 at 11:34 pm

    @Gin & Tonic: If I recall correctly, Oogie had a puppet of his own, called Boxie. Boxie was a tiny wooden box. Oogie, being a rather dim-witted puppet, couldn’t actually do any ventriloquism, and simply relayed all of Boxie’s lines in his own voice to Uncle Floyd.

    The puppet had a puppet. That is pure surrealist comedy genius.

  450. 450.

    Helen

    January 14, 2016 at 11:34 pm

    @BillinGlendaleCA:

    I thought Baud!!!2016!!! was doing that

    You forgot “Plus Helen”

  451. 451.

    Suzanne

    January 14, 2016 at 11:35 pm

    @Mandalay: Rubio sounds prissy as hell. Like he’s going to TELL ON ME.

  452. 452.

    Heliopause

    January 14, 2016 at 11:37 pm

    Is Lou Dobbs alive?

  453. 453.

    NotMax

    January 14, 2016 at 11:38 pm

    Kind of amazing to see how many here were subversive enough or stoned enough (or both) to be familiar with Uncle Floyd.

    Haz a happy about that.

  454. 454.

    Felonius Monk

    January 14, 2016 at 11:38 pm

    @Heliopause:

    Is Lou Dobbs alive?

    Does it matter?

  455. 455.

    GregB

    January 14, 2016 at 11:38 pm

    @JPL:

    I am sure if they were talking about Cruz, they meant prolapsed.

  456. 456.

    Ruckus

    January 14, 2016 at 11:38 pm

    @Suzanne:
    Your kid just got two points up on the board.

  457. 457.

    Omnes Omnibus

    January 14, 2016 at 11:38 pm

    @Suzanne: He will as soon as the teacher gets back.

  458. 458.

    SFAW

    January 14, 2016 at 11:40 pm

    @GregB:

    I am sure if they were talking about Cruz they meant prolapsed.

    No, prolapsed — as in “prolapsed pig rectum” — would be Sunununununununuuuuu,

  459. 459.

    Suzanne

    January 14, 2016 at 11:40 pm

    @Ruckus: She’s fucking hilarious and smart.

    @Omnes Omnibus: Seriously. What a total kiss-ass.

  460. 460.

    Heliopause

    January 14, 2016 at 11:42 pm

    @Felonius Monk:

    Just wondering because FOX can afford the best makeup artists, videographers, and lighting techs on the planet, and it’s still open to question.

  461. 461.

    mclaren

    January 14, 2016 at 11:43 pm

    @Thoughtful Today:

    The only candidate not playing into ISIS hysteria is Bernie Sanders, and he’s surging in the polls.

  462. 462.

    Betty Cracker

    January 14, 2016 at 11:45 pm

    @JPL: Not in my opinion. In fact, if I had to name one of the lying shitbags a winner, it would be Cruz.

  463. 463.

    NotMax

    January 14, 2016 at 11:46 pm

    @SFAW

    Which one?

    (I know, I know. All of ’em, Katie.)

    Hearing Dan Rather languidly pronounce the name Sununu is a tiny moment of pure art in spoken language. Impossible not to chuckle every time.

  464. 464.

    BillinGlendaleCA

    January 14, 2016 at 11:48 pm

    @Betty Cracker: I think tRump dinged him on citizenship and his New York quip.

  465. 465.

    Helen

    January 14, 2016 at 11:48 pm

    Trump is on Fox talking bout the Cruz NY values thing. Can someone please say “THAT MEANS JEW. AND GAY. AND MINORITY. BUT MOSTLY JEW”

  466. 466.

    Helen

    January 14, 2016 at 11:49 pm

    Trump is on Fox talking about the Cruz NY values thing. Can someone please say “THAT MEANS JEW. AND GAY. AND MINORITY. BUT MOSTLY JEW”

  467. 467.

    Adam L Silverman

    January 14, 2016 at 11:50 pm

    @Helen: I said it was Bircherite for Jews way up thread in the comments. Like right after Cruz said it.

  468. 468.

    SiubhanDuinne

    January 14, 2016 at 11:50 pm

    @BillinGlendaleCA:

    I didn’t start drinking again, but did turn to chocolate.

    You say that as though they were mutually exclusive.

  469. 469.

    Anne Laurie

    January 14, 2016 at 11:51 pm

    @Anoniminous:

    What POSSIBLE affect could one’s shoes have on one’s ability to do one’s job?

    “Presentation is important. What if a client happened to wander into the back cubicles and notice somebody was wearing unstylish shoes? It could potentially disgrace our entire office!”

    If you don’t believe me, ask some of the women in your life. Or Adam!

  470. 470.

    Helen

    January 14, 2016 at 11:51 pm

    Double Double. Wasn’t me.

  471. 471.

    Adam L Silverman

    January 14, 2016 at 11:52 pm

    @Anne Laurie: I’m either not sure how to take that remark or I resemble it.

  472. 472.

    Mandalay

    January 14, 2016 at 11:52 pm

    @BillinGlendaleCA:

    And it’s over!

    It’s only just beginning. Christ Matthews is already blathering incomprehensibly about Teddy Kennedy in 1980.

    If you thought the fuckers on stage were bad, you can now look forward to the Villagers opining for days. It ain’t over.

  473. 473.

    Ruckus

    January 14, 2016 at 11:53 pm

    @Suzanne:
    She must be, very few get points on the board. Especially at 12.

  474. 474.

    NotMax

    January 14, 2016 at 11:53 pm

    @SiubhanDuinne

    Yup.

  475. 475.

    Thoughtful Today

    January 14, 2016 at 11:53 pm

    …

    Adam L Silverman @ 142,

    Judeo-Christian worldviews are real.

    And influential.

    And I think you misread how some that hold that worldview read the Bible (see: Matthew 5:17).

  476. 476.

    Suzanne

    January 14, 2016 at 11:54 pm

    @Betty Cracker: I think Trump actually did a “good” job. As far as “good” goes.

  477. 477.

    JPL

    January 14, 2016 at 11:55 pm

    So who won? More important who lost/

  478. 478.

    Tenar Darell

    January 14, 2016 at 11:55 pm

    @Mary G: Did anyone already say”Why yes, yes it would kill one of them, but first there’d be the face melting & the hair on fire & the sound of crackling bones!”

    ETA, And I forgot to add: it’s part of all their contracts that this will happen.

  479. 479.

    amk

    January 14, 2016 at 11:55 pm

    Hillz

    2 1/2 hours of this? Imagine 4 years.

  480. 480.

    Anne Laurie

    January 14, 2016 at 11:57 pm

    @SFAW: Yeah, Cruz suffers from a different rectum-related disorder — apparently he can only shit through his mouth. Which explains his waxen sheen and permanent moue.

  481. 481.

    NotMax

    January 14, 2016 at 11:57 pm

    @Mandalay

    Chris Matthews: a noun, a verb and Tip O’Neill.

  482. 482.

    Omnes Omnibus

    January 14, 2016 at 11:58 pm

    @JPL: Everyone who watched lost.

  483. 483.

    Mandalay

    January 15, 2016 at 12:00 am

    @JPL:

    So who won? More important who lost

    Trump and Cruz won, and everyone else lost.

    Bush and Kasich both need to throw in the towel. They stand more chance of winning if they become Democrats.

  484. 484.

    Adam L Silverman

    January 15, 2016 at 12:00 am

    @Thoughtful Today: they can be real and still not be accurate at the same time. From a Jewish perspective there is no Judeo-Christian values or tradition. There are Jewish values and traditions and Christian ones. I’m well aware and versed on Christian views on this, and to be polite, but blunt, they are, at best, patronizing. It is also every Christian’s right to hold those views and I’m happy to accept that they have that right and do hold those views regardless of what I might think of them.

  485. 485.

    trollhattan

    January 15, 2016 at 12:01 am

    I smell a TBogg Unit!

  486. 486.

    Helen

    January 15, 2016 at 12:01 am

    @Anne Laurie:

    Anne is right. NYC women wear their sneakers to work. Cuz when you are on the subway you never know when you will have to run. Also, too, heels hurt. They then change into shoes in the office. But. There was a NY investment firm in the 1980’s that made it clear that the women who worked there could not come into the office in sneakers. The Times had a pic of a bunch of women sitting outside the office changing from sneakers to shoes.

  487. 487.

    Suzanne

    January 15, 2016 at 12:03 am

    I am tempted to change my party registration to vote for Trump in the primary, just to watch the GOP establishment’s heads blow up. LMMFAO.

  488. 488.

    JPL

    January 15, 2016 at 12:03 am

    @Omnes Omnibus: thanks.. glad I didn’t watch. I can’t afford to lose anymore brain cells.

  489. 489.

    Omnes Omnibus

    January 15, 2016 at 12:05 am

    @JPL: I also did not watch. I let this place and twitter inform me.

  490. 490.

    ? Martin

    January 15, 2016 at 12:06 am

    I’ve decided that I want Cruz to be disqualified from the presidency because that would mean that any random ‘anchor baby’ could be President but Cruz couldn’t be. And that makes me happy.

  491. 491.

    BillinGlendaleCA

    January 15, 2016 at 12:10 am

    @SiubhanDuinne: I quit the booze 5 years ago.

  492. 492.

    Eric U.

    January 15, 2016 at 12:11 am

    @Suzanne: sounds fun. In other news, the machinist, a reliable republican, wants to vote for Bernie. I asked him if he meant in the primary or the general. He said in the general

    Of course, he’s enough of a fox listener that he thinks HRC will be in jail

  493. 493.

    BillinGlendaleCA

    January 15, 2016 at 12:13 am

    @trollhattan: We’re very close(I’m doing my part).

  494. 494.

    Helen

    January 15, 2016 at 12:17 am

    @Omnes Omnibus:

    So my hate is bigger that your hate?

    I fucking hate these people. See me up thread. I should stop watching. But it’s like rubber-necking.

    Also, too. Amarosa???? Really???

  495. 495.

    different-church-lady

    January 15, 2016 at 12:17 am

    @trollhattan: Just chipping in here.

  496. 496.

    Omnes Omnibus

    January 15, 2016 at 12:21 am

    @Helen: Your hate seems to be bigger than mine. Yours seems to have compelled you to watch. Mine was less powerful than my sense of not wanting to smash my TV.

  497. 497.

    Repatriated

    January 15, 2016 at 12:21 am

    Unlurking to do my part…

  498. 498.

    ? Martin

    January 15, 2016 at 12:22 am

    I figured out what’s wrong with the girls at the Trump rally. None of them were strong enough to crush a human skull under their boot during the ‘crush our enemies’ part of the song. They missed the key visual to tie the whole thing together. Just sloppy.

  499. 499.

    jl

    January 15, 2016 at 12:22 am

    @Thoughtful Today:

    Matthew 5:17 ?

    I think that is an odd verse to argue for something called Judeo-Christian values.
    It points out a split within the early Church that reflects differences between Judaism and Christianity, just as much as any commonality between Judaism and Christianity.
    The early church interpreted them in a way (the traditional Christo-centric view of history, Judaism, and the Old Testament) that no pious Jew of any school of thought would have agreed with.

    You’ll have to explain what you think it means before I understand.

  500. 500.

    NotMax

    January 15, 2016 at 12:23 am

    Because no one else has yet linked it, the coda to tonight’s televised fustercluck.

  501. 501.

    BillinGlendaleCA

    January 15, 2016 at 12:26 am

    @NotMax: You win.

  502. 502.

    Irony Abounds

    January 15, 2016 at 12:31 am

    I’m not really all that enthusiastic about Hillary, but all the Republican candidates are such loathsome assholes, that I will walk over glass for her to beat whichever one of those scum emerges from the cesspool. If this country has problems now, just wait for the disaster that will ensue if the Republican wins.

  503. 503.

    Thoughtful Today

    January 15, 2016 at 12:35 am

    Adam, thank you for explaining.

  504. 504.

    Betty Cracker

    January 15, 2016 at 12:36 am

    Is the site slow AF for everyone or just me?

  505. 505.

    01jack

    January 15, 2016 at 12:38 am

    @Betty Cracker:

    Is the site slow AF for everyone or just me?

    Nearly stopped.

  506. 506.

    joel hanes

    January 15, 2016 at 12:40 am

    @raven:

    I know. Ya know? Foxtrot Tango Alpha.

  507. 507.

    NotMax

    January 15, 2016 at 12:40 am

    @Betty Cracker

    Not just you.

    Been happening around midnight for several days now.

  508. 508.

    hitchhiker

    January 15, 2016 at 12:43 am

    I think Trump just won Iowa.

  509. 509.

    Anne Laurie

    January 15, 2016 at 12:45 am

    @Helen:

    NYC women wear their sneakers to work. Cuz when you are on the subway you never know when you will have to run. Also, too, heels hurt.

    Ditto, women in Boston. Hell, half the men in our office would wear sneakers to work during snow/slush/mud season, then change to their expensive wingtips in their cubicles/offices. (The Senior Vice President, needless to say, hated that. The SVP drove his company car into the enclosed garage with the reserved VP section — unless it was particularly nasty, in which case the company-paid limo service would pick him up at his leafy upscale abode and the private driver would take him into the heart of the Hub. But that was cost-effective, per the SVP, because he used that commuting time for important executive functions.)

  510. 510.

    amk

    January 15, 2016 at 12:46 am

    @Betty Cracker: some times dead slow, some times fast. been that way for days. I intend to write to cole in all caps.

  511. 511.

    Adam L Silverman

    January 15, 2016 at 12:46 am

    @Thoughtful Today: You’re welcome. I hope I didn’t offend you, that certainly wasn’t the intent.

  512. 512.

    Adam L Silverman

    January 15, 2016 at 12:48 am

    @Betty Cracker: @01jack: I checked with Alain. He thinks something is running at midnight EST that is slowing the site down. He’s going to try to figure out what it is and then try to figure out when he can move it to that the slow down won’t impact commenting, loading, and reloading as much. He was thinking 3 AM EST.

  513. 513.

    Helen

    January 15, 2016 at 12:49 am

    @Omnes Omnibus: You and I have had this conversation. Kinda. You got mad at me when I said I am giving up on America and our system. You kept saying FIGHT FIGHT FIGHT.

    OO – darling. If you do not watch what is happening how can you know what is happening?

  514. 514.

    amk

    January 15, 2016 at 12:50 am

    @Adam L Silverman: sorta kicking the can down the road?

  515. 515.

    Omnes Omnibus

    January 15, 2016 at 12:54 am

    @Helen: I watched the first debate. I know that the GOP candidates are appalling assholes who oppose almost everything that I think is good about this country. I have comparatively low blood pressure. Why should I fuck with that to learn what I already know?

  516. 516.

    Adam L Silverman

    January 15, 2016 at 12:55 am

    @amk: He’s got to figure out what it is, he was just shooting from the hip until he nails that down.

  517. 517.

    Anne Laurie

    January 15, 2016 at 12:57 am

    @Adam L Silverman: As the night janitor, I can attest that 3-4:30am tends to be the ‘dead zone’ on this blog. Although generally comments tend to taper off sharply around 2am, when the Left Coaster go to bed.

  518. 518.

    Anne Laurie

    January 15, 2016 at 12:58 am

    And now that we’ve made a TBogg unit, new post up top: Ted Cruz makes terrible person Donald Trump look good by comparison.

  519. 519.

    Thoughtful Today

    January 15, 2016 at 12:59 am

    jl @ 499

    The real fun would be to get Huckabee, Carson, and Romney in a room to discuss it for an hour.

    Adam can then annotate the discussion with his sociological insights.

  520. 520.

    amk

    January 15, 2016 at 1:01 am

    @Adam L Silverman: If he can identify it, he can kill it with one shot, why kick it down the road?

  521. 521.

    Adam L Silverman

    January 15, 2016 at 1:01 am

    @Thoughtful Today: I said I didn’t mean to offend you, why do you hate me so?

  522. 522.

    Adam L Silverman

    January 15, 2016 at 1:05 am

    @amk: I’m the foreign and defense policy and baking and meat recipe guy. I am not the tech guy. So my honest answer is: I have no idea. I said I’d check with him and report back. That’s what he told me. I am merely the messenger.

  523. 523.

    Thoughtful Today

    January 15, 2016 at 1:08 am

    lol

  524. 524.

    amk

    January 15, 2016 at 1:09 am

    @Adam L Silverman: I am none of those. Just being the typical bj ah. Good night.

  525. 525.

    Adam L Silverman

    January 15, 2016 at 1:19 am

    @amk: no worries on my end. I just honestly don’t know. And now to bed.

  526. 526.

    Helen

    January 15, 2016 at 1:24 am

    @Adam L Silverman:

    LOL

    Yep. The FUNNEST thing about you for me about you is “he’s a soldier; and he can cook.”

    SHUT UP really? You know. In a good way.

  527. 527.

    Origuy

    January 15, 2016 at 1:48 am

    @amk: It may be a maintenance job that needs to be run periodically, like a database cleanup or something. Killing it could make things worse. Changing the priority might be another fix, so that it doesn’t slow down HTTP requests.

  528. 528.

    J R in WV

    January 15, 2016 at 5:55 am

    @Suzanne:

    Here in WV we get to pick either party in the primary election, a newish thing. I would like to pick GOP to vote for Trump, but there a coal billionaire running for the Dem Gubernatorial nomination, and a pretty solid Dem who was a good US Prosecuting Attorney running against the coal billionaire.

    So I feel like I need to vote for the prosecuting attorney for the Dem Gov nom, in hopes that Jim Justice, who never pays his bills won’t get elected Gov. Of course it might not matter if we turned into a red state during Obama’s presidency, a Loon will be elected, and will proceed to help the republican controlled legislature destroy the state.

    This is all bad for me, I get my pension from the WV state government. The biggest part of our retirement income.

  529. 529.

    Sherparick

    January 15, 2016 at 7:08 am

    @Renie: There are couple of other documentaries that are splendid. In 1968, the 50th anniversary year of the armistice (and a year where the U.S. was tearing itself apart over Vietnam and Civil Rights), CBS put on a 26 part documentary narrated by Robert Ryan. It is to U.S. centric of course, but still very good. http://wardocumentaryfilms.com/ww1/the-complete-story-of-world-war-1/

  530. 530.

    Sherparick

    January 15, 2016 at 7:29 am

    @Baud: I am thinking perhaps New Zealand or Australia. The radioactive fallout will take a longer time to reach the Southern hemisphere.

  531. 531.

    Adam L Silverman

    January 15, 2016 at 11:27 am

    @Helen: I’m not a Soldier. I’m a civilian.

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