Well isn’t this something:
In interviews with National Journal and the New York Times, representatives for Carly for America have said the group doesn’t coordinate with Fiorina’s campaign. They say its staff members learn about Fiorina’s events online through a public calendar and show up with super PAC materials and signup lists.
But an International Business Times review of documents from two public universities and one college where Fiorina attended events suggests it’s not so simple.
The super PAC appears to have played an active role in helping organize a September event at Winthrop University in South Carolina, according to a review of emails between the school’s employees, staff for the Fiorina campaign and Carly for America.
When a Winthrop University employee could not reach a Fiorina about correcting details on the Eventbrite website for the event, she reached out to Taylor Mason, a super PAC staff member listed as a contact on the Eventbrite page.
“I have a few questions about the location,” Mason wrote back after fixing the details. “What is the address of the building? Where should people park? Is there handicap parking available? Do y’all plan on putting something out to your students to let them know she’ll be there?”
Soon, the super PAC received an advance walkthrough of the event location, after Mason arranged a meeting between a university employee and his group’s field director. The school staff member wrote in a subsequent email to the Fiorina campaign, “The PAC rep who toured the space yesterday said CNN and Fox News was traveling [with] the campaign.”
Make sure you read the whole thing.
What’s great about this report to me is that it really didn’t take anything special to write it, and I don’t say that as an insult, but I mean it with the highest praise. They didn’t need to spend thousands of dollars and stand around a candidate with other pool reporters. They didn’t need to file a bazillion Freedom of Information Act requests.
All they needed was some common sense and to care enough to actually read what was publicly available, to roll up their sleeves and spend the time to understand the campaign laws, analyze what Fiorina was doing, and then describe and prove in detail what her campaign was doing, how it was a violation, and explain it to people.
In other words, what it took was caring and having some self respect and just doing your god damned job and actually spending the time to know your subject matter and speaking about it in an informed way. The boring, mundane work that far too many journalists don’t do while they seek splashy headlines or judge whose “zinger” at the debate was most effective.
So good work, Andrew Perez. Wish there were more like you out there.
trollhattan
Why does Andy hate America?
Marko
Spotlight tells the story of real journalists.
mike in dc
Unfortunately because the FEC is deadlocked(by design), there is zero chance that any violations will get investigated and/or prosecuted.
Jacel
I remember when the wonderful Media Whores Online website was operated by its still-unidentified proprietor. People in the media speculated that this dirt was being found and dished by a journalism or political insider. But the point of most of MWO’s reports was that all it took was to pay attention to the public record and notice what the players were doing and saying.
redshirt
And….?
raven
These some stupid motherfuckers.
Corner Stone
I absolutely fucking hate it that when you click the Comments link the page refreshes and puts you back at the top of the OP. Please to be fixing that asap.
piratedan7
a Republican candidate that has been less than truthful, whodathunkit?
piratedan7
@raven: I would really like a Federal Judge to make an example of these shitheads (individually and/or collectively) when the hammer falls.
debbie
@raven:
How long til there’s a GoFundMe?
Mike J
From the article:
Calouste
Carly is naughty, Bernie is… stupid: Bernie Sanders lawyers to Wikipedia: Take down our logo, you’re violating DMCA
Brachiator
This is not as easy as it looks, especially the “understand campaign laws” part.
But good damn work.
Adam L Silverman
@raven: I just qued up a new post about this for 8.
El Caganer
@raven: I believe this is the patriot whose codename is “Fluffy Bunny.”
jl
@raven: Ha ha. I just saw that.
Maybe the plan is to pick them off one by one as they commit crimes that can be charged under laws that do not directly confront their dangerous and silly occupation. Not sure I agree with it, but at least it is something. Many of them may be undisciplined enough to make that a good strategy to reduce their numbers. And it will be difficult for the Bundy Gang to retaliate or escalate without looking like common criminals. It might be a good strategy.
Forget where I saw it, but I read Ammon Bundy’s response to Paiute claims on the land, which was basically: too bad, it’s the white man’s now, and it belongs white men who want to graze their cows on it in particular. As far as I could tell, that was the whole analysis. I can see how that kind of sovereign citizen justice is so attractive (if you get what you want), it’s simple and quick. None of all this dag-nabbit-all gosh darn complication and frustration with having to compromise and work through competing claims and shit.
lgerard
More good news!
Long time Bundy syncophant Brian “Booda Bear” Cavalier AKA “fluffy unicorn” has been arrested in Arizona on an outstanding warrant.
“Booda Bear” was the pretender who claimed he was a Marine vet and had served several tours in Iraq, but cut and ran from the Bundy occupation when he was exposed as a fraud by The Daily Mail
redshirt
Who cares about Carly? Really.
Gin & Tonic
@Calouste: Yeah, I read that earlier and posted about it in the probably then-dying Bernie thread from this morning. I remain confused, particularly since there’s even a legitimate question about whether one of the logos they want taken down is original enough to be copyrightable.
I guess I just don’t understand campaigning. I’d want my or my candidate’s logo to be as widely distributed as possible. Sure, you don’t want it printed maliciously, like on toilet paper, but this is Wikipedia.
Adam L Silverman
@redshirt: Carly does.
Gin & Tonic
@Adam L Silverman: Queued.
/pedant
Adam L Silverman
@Gin & Tonic: There is medication that you could take to deal with your OCD, you know that right?
BillinGlendaleCA
I saw on the Nightly Show that the OR loons are really getting upset with the dildos there’re getting, lmao.
jl
@lgerard: Wonder if now that the media has, for the moment, gotten bored with them and their attention has drifted, it is a good time to start rounding them up one by one as the opportunity arises.
I guess that govt plan could be foiled. One of them could try to get an interview, or put out a press release condemning jack-booted government thuggery for arresting a guy who stole a truck that warn’t his. Or claim the warrant for the gy in AZ was obviously also for violating a bogus unconstitutional law. Not sure how much sympathy that would generate.
If they run short of funds, then all the Paiute artifacts they can steal and sell off will be become more tempting, and I suppose a number of groups are watching that angle like a hawk.
Mike J
@Gin & Tonic:
Is it you and every other candidate who has ever run for president that is wrong, or could the majority of people agree on the better way to campaign?
Numbers don’t prove anything, but they’re enough to cast doubt on it being a good way to campaign.
redshirt
@Adam L Silverman: True.
Question answered.
Adam L Silverman
@BillinGlendaleCA: wait till that 55 galloon drum of lube someone sent them gets there.
jl
@Gin & Tonic: I could be sympathetic to Bernie’s IP legal thugs if letting Wikipedia use logos would set a precedent that reduces the campaign’s control over the logo and branding. IANAL, so I don’t know if that is a good reason to provoke bad PR.
Edit: Bernie has been getting pretty jocular recently, maybe he just feels he needs to maintain his cred as a grumpy old coot.
BillinGlendaleCA
@jl:
they could sell all the dildos(and lube that Adam noted above). Hell, at this point, maybe they should just open a “toy” store at the refuge.
Corner Stone
@BillinGlendaleCA: Not big enough or is it the lack of loob?
redshirt
I need to say something incredibly shallow, but also true:
Watching the State of the Union the other night, and the close ups of Bernie, brought home the fact that he’s an old, ugly man. With cold sores. And terrible hair. And lacking charisma.
His ideas might be great, but there’s NO WAY a man his age who looks and acts like he does will get elected President of the USA in the 21st century. It might have worked in the 1830’s, but not today.
Corner Stone
Damn. What a difference a few minutes makes when Adam is spitting his rhymes.
amk
@raven:
why so fast, feds? stolen vehicle? yay.
Adam L Silverman
@BillinGlendaleCA: Just stock them in the gift shop next to the books on birding and the stuffed loons and warblers.
Adam L Silverman
@Corner Stone: huh? I’m confused.
SiubhanDuinne
@Gin & Tonic:
@Adam L Silverman:
G&T will have to share the meds with me, then. I was thinking of making the same correction, but decided I had been pedantic enough for one day.
Mandalay
Fiorina said this in her opening remarks at the undercard debate last night:
While I am not particularly fond of Clinton myself, I find that to be the most pathetic and offensive comment that has come out of any Republican’s mouth in the past few months.
Fiorina is a train wreck. Just contemptible as a human being.
Ben Cisco (onboard the Defiant)
@raven: Damn Skippy!
redshirt
@Adam L Silverman: Corner Stone has 75% of people pied, and only talks to himself. Your confusion is natural.
Adam L Silverman
@SiubhanDuinne: It happens. I have no problem with you all catching them. To be honest the worst speller was my Dad. He would spell and with three Ns.
jl
@Adam L Silverman:
” huh? I’m confused. ”
I think that is the point.
Gin & Tonic
@Adam L Silverman: It manifests in very few aspects of my life. But there are several commenters here who’ll make a point of correcting points of language, so I’m not alone. A couple of threads down there was a marriage proposal based on the distinction between “less” and “fewer.”
ETA: Some of them type more quickly as well.
eemom
@redshirt:
That ain’t what stopped McCain.
a hip hop artist from Idaho (fka Bella Q)
@Adam L Silverman: Yay! As raven noted, these are some stupic motherfuckers. They didn’t even pack snacks – isn’t like #3 on the list of “what to take to the occupation” or at least #4?
JPL
After the debate last night, maybe this wasn’t the best time to start watching Man in the High Castle.
jl
@Gin & Tonic: I used to be a ‘less’ and ‘fewer” fanatic, but I read someplace that the distinction is a recent invention and actual usage has been wobbly for hundreds of years.
Which irritated me at first, but then I realized that forgetting about it leads to fewer worry on less occasions, so it’s all good.
redshirt
@eemom: It didn’t help McCain, that’s for sure. Hence Palin.
Serious question: Who’s the ugliest person elected President?
I can’t think of an ugly person in the 21st or 20th centuries.
SiubhanDuinne
@Adam L Silverman:
Completely off topic, but since you hold the Keys to the Kingdom, I hope you’ll pass this along to Alain and crew:
Recently (today) when I select, highlight, and copy a line from someone’s comment, and then attempt to paste it into my own comment/reply to that person, nothing appears in the comment box. I can copy and paste just fine on other sites and in emails and stuff, so I don’t think it’s on my end (iPad, Safari). Would you kindly bring this to the attention of the appropriate authorities? Thanks, Adam!
Gin & Tonic
FYWP. I remembered why I never do the “ETA” thing — for some reason it puts my comment in moderation, as it did just now. I don’t know how the rest of you get away with it.
Adam L Silverman
@redshirt: @jl: okay. Then I guess we’re good.
redshirt
@JPL: I quite enjoyed the show. Don’t watch, though, if you’re trying to quit smoking.
Adam L Silverman
@SiubhanDuinne: I don’t know if I have keys to anything, but I’ll pass the info on for you.
a hip hop artist from Idaho (fka Bella Q)
@Adam L Silverman: Perhaps tellingly, a psychiatrist – who was speaker at a psychopharm conference where I was working the registration table made that same comment to me. The speakers had pinked ribbons to be glued to the bottom of their badges and I put his on, let’s say less than straight, as were the first and second adjustments. His remark was “we have meds for that now,” but he smiled when he said it so there was not even a hint of violence.
David *Rafael* Koch
@Calouste:
Pretty hilarious watching a socialist file suit against a non-profit over capitalist property interests.
New boss same as old boss.
Adam L Silverman
@a hip hop artist from Idaho (fka Bella Q): I was only teasing Gin and Tonic. Its really not that big a deal. I always have the reports I write proofed by several people who have masters degrees or doctorates and even then we all usually miss something.
Iowa Old Lady
@Mandalay: I actually saw a CARLY! bumper sticker last week. Also one of my neighbors has a Choose Cruz lawn sign.
Corner Stone
@Adam L Silverman: I made a comment about dildos and loob, but it was spaced a few minutes after your comment on the 55 gallon drum of loob that was sent to the Patriots in OR.
Just randomly commenting on being a few comments late to have that jennay seh kwah for on point sarcastic comments about our friends and neighbors.
Gin & Tonic
@a hip hop artist from Idaho (fka Bella Q): I detected no hint of violence from Adam.
Adam L Silverman
@Iowa Old Lady: I saw my first and only Ben Carson bumper sticker on Tuesday on the way back from the dog park.
Adam L Silverman
@Corner Stone: okay, now I’m tracking.
Adam L Silverman
@Gin & Tonic: Not that this should ever be an issue here, but I don’t hint. If I’m pissed everyone will know.
lgerard
@redshirt:
Taft was somewhat Christie like
Coolidge was no looker
Gin & Tonic
@Adam L Silverman: Ha! I noticed that correction you made.
Adam L Silverman
@Gin & Tonic: and that was me even trying to be careful the first time!
The Golux
“Oh Carly, you’ve been naughty!”
The last thing I want to picture is Ms. Fiorina getting her freak on.
redshirt
@lgerard: At least from paintings, Taft was an OK looking dude even if he was fat. Christie has bad skin in addition to being fat.
Coolidge was alright. Better looking than Bernie.
Corner Stone
@The Golux: What could possibly be better than a ballgag?
With a safe word/gesture! Of course.
lgerard
@redshirt:
There are not a lot of HD closeups of Coolidge online…I saw a picture of him at the MA State House once and it was a little scary. He may have just been having a bad day though..
If you google “Christie and Shaq” you come upon a picture that makes me laugh like crazy every time I see it.
David *Rafael* Koch
@redshirt: Nixon
a hip hop artist from Idaho (fka Bella Q)
@Gin & Tonic: I detected none as well, but I might have hinted at the possibility myself had the p-doc not smiled – as I’m certain you understood. I saw the edit Adam made also, and chuckled.
Adam L Silverman
@a hip hop artist from Idaho (fka Bella Q): you all are soooo mean to me!
Gin & Tonic
@Adam L Silverman: Ask Freddie the Bore about mean. Or that other dude, what was his name, Kain, the ombudsman?
David *Rafael* Koch
@redshirt: .no one said socialism would be pretty, comrade
Steeplejack (tablet)
@SiubhanDuinne:
I’ve still got the vapors about affected/effected in his earlier post today.
PurpleGirl
@Adam L Silverman: I used to type mathematical papers — you know that advanced stuff like ODEs, PDEs, matrices, complex expressions, etc. Anyway, I would tell the client to have his wife or girlfriend read/proof the paper because what I read and typed might not be what was meant. The would always says, “But she won’t know the mathematics…” And I’d say, “I don’t mean the mathematics — you professor should have checked that before your got this typed. I mean your handwriting. If I read it wrong once, I might read wrong again.”
They would always, always, come back and say… I found some more errors. I’d tell them “That’s why you get someone who doesn’t know the subject or what was written to proof it. You and I think we see what we think should be there.”
Adam L Silverman
@Gin & Tonic: I remember. You guys are fine. I’m just being a smartass.
Adam L Silverman
@Steeplejack (tablet): I looked that up first! Or was that the 3 AM post? If its the 3 AM post then tough – at 3 AM you’re lucky I didn’t do it in a mishmash of Hebrew, Arabic, and Army acronyms.
redshirt
@David *Rafael* Koch: Nixon was once quite the looker, and he wasn’t so bad even in his evil days.
Adam L Silverman
@PurpleGirl: Yep. Though I usually try to, don’t laugh, get my Mom to proof the reports. She’s not a subject matter expert, but she does have a masters. So if she both understands what I’m trying to convey and she finds the errors, then its a win-win.
Shana
@redshirt: Nixon was not an attractive man. At all.
redshirt
@Shana: Young Nixon
SiubhanDuinne
@Steeplejack (tablet):
I know. I had to bite my tongue HARD on that one.
Adam L Silverman
@SiubhanDuinne: I repeat: “I looked that up first! Or was that the 3 AM post? If its the 3 AM post then tough – at 3 AM you’re lucky I didn’t do it in a mishmash of Hebrew, Arabic, and Army acronyms.”
Matt McIrvin
@PurpleGirl: When I was in grad school, I noticed that a lot of textbooks and survey papers at that level had many egregious typos in the mathematical expressions. Someone who was knowledgeable about the subject would probably read right over most of them, but they’d trip me up for hours because I’d think I was missing something, until I convinced myself that the equation was just printed wrong.
Central Planning
@Gin & Tonic:
So they type fewer slowly?
I was originally going for a laugh. Now I’m not sure if that would be the correct form…
ETA: just testing ETA
Steeplejack
@Adam L Silverman:
Because having an advanced degree is only tangentially related to good writing and copyediting.
Stick with the 3:00 a.m. excuse, which is at least plausible.
Affect means to influence and is what people mean almost all the time. Effect means to cause and is what you want practically never, especially in constructions like “they are experiencing a site slowdown effecting commenting, loading, and/or reloading the site.”
It’s like rein/reign. It’s amazing how often people use the wrong choice. Go with rein 95% of the time, unless an actual king, queen or other royal is mentioned in the same sentence.
eemom
@redshirt:
You are a contrarian. That is all.
Adam L Silverman
@Steeplejack: I’ve done copyediting work. The most recent I can’t really discuss, but it was for something very important. I’m aware. But as I’m sure you know its always easier to catch other’s errors than your own. And I know the difference between affect and effect, I just really don’t care if I don’t always get it right, especially late, late at night.
J R in WV
John Cole:
You have been so very good for posting this!!
Adam,
I used to get my former boss and my current boss (pre-retirement) to proof my grant applications, and no one could really help me get them typo free. I had a co-worker who could do it, but he was actually producing new systems that worked right, so I didn’t want to slow him down with funding issues.
Then I realized that other government offices weren’t going to be any better than (as good as) I was at catching that kind of stuff. No matter how many people proof a document, it is still not going to be perfect, ever.
So don’t work about it so much!
Keep up the good work! also too.