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You are here: Home / Politics / President Obama’s Remarks On Iran Deal

President Obama’s Remarks On Iran Deal

by TaMara|  January 17, 20161:02 pm| 62 Comments

This post is in: Politics, Republican Stupidity, Good News For Conservatives, Outrage

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I thought I’d drop this here in case you missed it. Once again, the Republicans are OUTRAGED at how diplomacy works. Fuck them.

I’ll try and find the actual video to embed, but until then, click this link for the video and the outline.

UPDATE: Try this video, looks like it’s the entire speech.

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  1. 1.

    TaMara (BHF)

    January 17, 2016 at 1:08 pm

    Apologies to Betty Cracker because I know she’ prepping a NFL thread as I post this.

  2. 2.

    feebog

    January 17, 2016 at 1:09 pm

    We were well on the way to the same outcome with North Korea during the Clinton administration. Then the Supreme Court appointed Shrub and he couldn’t drop negotiations soon enough. As a result, North Korea now has nuclear bombs. But of course none of that matters because IOKIYAR.

  3. 3.

    raven

    January 17, 2016 at 1:10 pm

    WASHINGTON — The Obama administration announced Sunday that it was imposing new, more limited sanctions on some Iranian citizens and companies for violating United Nations resolutions against ballistic missile tests. The move came less than 24 hours after the White House lifted broader sanctions against Iran for its nuclear program.

  4. 4.

    D58826

    January 17, 2016 at 1:12 pm

    Or you can listen to Chuckles interview Marco the magnificent. Marco explained how as a STRONG president Iran would not have dared due any of the evil things that they have done under the WEAK Obama. As a STRONG president he would have told the Iranians to release the hostages before he would refuse to talk to them any way. He would follow in the example of Saint Ronulus the Unenlightened in his dealings with Iran . Chuckles did not ask the obvious follow up question – would Marco send a chocolate or vanilla cake to the Iranians as part of his STRONG president policy.

  5. 5.

    Baud

    January 17, 2016 at 1:16 pm

    @D58826:

    The Republicans are essentially Monday morning quarterbacks, except they also complain when America wins.

  6. 6.

    debbie

    January 17, 2016 at 1:17 pm

    @raven:

    Donald Trump made him do that.

  7. 7.

    smintheus

    January 17, 2016 at 1:22 pm

    I was deeply impressed when Hillary decided she needed to take a potshot at the Obama administration’s success in negotiating with Iran.

    Clinton said, as president, her policy toward Iran would be to “distrust and verify.

    The former secretary of State said the U.S. should not “thank” Iran for releasing prisoners unjustly held or for following through on its obligations.

    “The treatment of our Navy sailors earlier this week was offensive, including the release of demeaning and provocative videos,” she added, referring to the brief capture of 10 sailors who inadvertently crossed into Iranian waters.

    Nothing says ‘serious’ like adopting Republican belligerent rhetoric.

  8. 8.

    D58826

    January 17, 2016 at 1:23 pm

    And in this corner another LEADER is heard from:

    WASHINGTON — Ted Cruz on Sunday stood by his claim that the U.S. should “carpet bomb” the Islamic State group out of existence and falsely stated that the George H.W. Bush administration carpet bombed Iraq during the first Gulf War.

    “You wanna know what carpet bombing means?” Cruz said, invoking the first Iraq War in 1991. “We were launching 1100 air attacks a day. We were carpet bombing.” As a result of this bombing campaign, Cruz said, U.S. troops “mopped up the remains of the Iraqi army” with ease.

    The United States did not carpet bomb Iraq or Kuwait during the 1991 Gulf War. The airstrikes were highly targeted and thus highly effective, as military experts told The New York Times. “Carpet bombing” is not even a term used by the American military. But it is generally understood to be the indiscriminate bombing of large geographic areas without regard for potential civilian casualties.

    Trump is probably correct but totally unaware that it applies to him as well – the US is the laughing stock of the world with clowns like these running for president.

  9. 9.

    raven

    January 17, 2016 at 1:25 pm

    @smintheus: If she wins she will kill the first thing that moves just to prove she’ll do it. Take it to the bank,

  10. 10.

    Baud

    January 17, 2016 at 1:28 pm

    @smintheus:

    Nothing says ‘serious’ like adopting Republican belligerent rhetoric.

    Yeah, really Republican.

    Clinton on Saturday praised President Obama for securing the safe return of four U.S. citizens and implementing the Iranian nuclear deal, but warned that all concerns about Iran are not assuaged.

  11. 11.

    Baud

    January 17, 2016 at 1:29 pm

    @raven:

    Can I nominate someplace in Oregon?

  12. 12.

    D58826

    January 17, 2016 at 1:29 pm

    first time I’ve seen this – IIOOVIN (If it’s Obama our vote is NO). But then I spend a lot of time looking for ink for my quill pens

  13. 13.

    smintheus

    January 17, 2016 at 1:30 pm

    @raven: Wouldn’t be surprised to see her in camo out hunting ‘varmints’ before long.

  14. 14.

    smintheus

    January 17, 2016 at 1:32 pm

    @Baud: She’s for the undeniable successes but against appeasement. Yep, Republican rhetoric.

  15. 15.

    Baud

    January 17, 2016 at 1:33 pm

    @smintheus:

    Appeasement is a Democratic principle now?

  16. 16.

    smintheus

    January 17, 2016 at 1:36 pm

    @Baud: Did you read all of her comments? Quite in line with the 2008 candidate who decried Obama for saying that he’d be willing to negotiate with Iran without preconditions.

  17. 17.

    Baud

    January 17, 2016 at 1:37 pm

    @smintheus:

    You mean like this one

    Clinton also said the nuclear agreement marks an “important achievement of diplomacy” between Iran and the international community.

    “Implementation marks an important step forward in preventing Iran from obtaining a nuclear weapon,” she said. “Iran has dismantled centrifuges, disabled a reactor, and shipped out almost all of its enriched uranium.

    “These are important steps that make the United States, our allies, and the entire world safer,” she added. “I congratulate President Obama and his team, and I’m proud of the role I played to get this process started.”

    Wait, was that Clinton or Ted Cruz. I can hardly tell the difference?

  18. 18.

    ThresherK (GPad)

    January 17, 2016 at 1:42 pm

    Waiting for someone to tweak Reagan’s speech in 1981 on the subject, pass it off as Obama’s,and see if the RWNJs can tell the difference

  19. 19.

    I'mNotSureWhoIWantToBeYet

    January 17, 2016 at 1:47 pm

    @smintheus: One thing to wary of – TheHill is a very strongly “inside baseball” publication. Almost everything there has a strong underlying slant – either pro-Teabagger or pro-Lefty/Leftist/whatever-term-you-want-to-use. They have pundits on both sides of the divide.

    Don’t take their reporting at face value. Even quotes can be slanted by the framing and the editing.

    In this case, it is clear that someone is pushing the “Hillary is a hawk!!1” meme.

    FWIW.

    Cheers,
    Scott.

  20. 20.

    smintheus

    January 17, 2016 at 1:50 pm

    @Baud: Thus she’s for the diplomatic successes but against Obama’s diplomatic restraint. What part of the comments I quoted do you find impressive coming from a Democrat?

  21. 21.

    Baud

    January 17, 2016 at 1:52 pm

    @smintheus:

    Did you see Raven’s quote above that Obama just imposed new sanctions against Iran? Is Obama a Republican too?

  22. 22.

    MattF

    January 17, 2016 at 1:55 pm

    The underlying theme of Republican foreign policy is that premature ejaculation is actually a good thing.

  23. 23.

    smintheus

    January 17, 2016 at 1:55 pm

    @I’mNotSureWhoIWantToBeYet: Fair enough, it could be The Hill is sand-bagging Clinton by misconstruing her comments. But those comments per se, especially the complaint about thanking Iran for releasing sailors whom they supposedly mistreated, are nauseating.

  24. 24.

    smintheus

    January 17, 2016 at 1:55 pm

    @Baud: What part of the comments I quoted impress you?

  25. 25.

    Baud

    January 17, 2016 at 1:59 pm

    @smintheus:

    Whether I’m impressed or not has nothing to do with whether Clinton is adopting Republican rhetoric, which is what you claimed. It’s as stupid as anyone saying Sanders has adopted the Republican rhetoric on guns.

  26. 26.

    Corner Stone

    January 17, 2016 at 2:02 pm

    @smintheus: That’s not your initial standard in this back and forth.

  27. 27.

    Eolirin

    January 17, 2016 at 2:03 pm

    Hillary, at least when talking to US audiences, definitely comes across as more aggressive than Obama, but there seems to be very little space between them in terms of actual approach on these issues.

  28. 28.

    smintheus

    January 17, 2016 at 2:05 pm

    @Baud: Shane Bauer:

    Wow, who is calling for new sanctions on Iran in the wake of this major breakthrough? Trump? Cruze? Nope. Clinton!

  29. 29.

    Eolirin

    January 17, 2016 at 2:06 pm

    @smintheus: Calling for the exact same new sanctions that Obama just went and put into place…

  30. 30.

    smintheus

    January 17, 2016 at 2:06 pm

    @Corner Stone: Yes it is. I quoted parts of Clinton’s comments for a reason: to show her once again at her depressing worst.

  31. 31.

    Baud

    January 17, 2016 at 2:07 pm

    @smintheus:

    Cool. You found someone on the internet who agrees with your wrong position.

    And I guess Obama is worse than Trump too since he just imposed new sanctions on Iran. At least own up to the consequences of your viewpoint.

  32. 32.

    smintheus

    January 17, 2016 at 2:09 pm

    @Eolirin: She didn’t just advocate sanctions, did she? Clinton decried weakness in diplomatic responses to Iran; what part of that is hard to understand?

  33. 33.

    smintheus

    January 17, 2016 at 2:10 pm

    @Baud: Good job of ignoring what I’m saying.

  34. 34.

    Shell

    January 17, 2016 at 2:12 pm

    John Bolton is particularly moronic. “Diplomatic Debacle” for the US, indeed. I think he’s incapable of framing anything except in apocalyptic terms. (Or is that most Republicans) In 2008, he said if Obama was elected, Iran would have a nuclear bomb because diplomacy had failed!

  35. 35.

    Baud

    January 17, 2016 at 2:12 pm

    @smintheus:

    You haven’t answered even one of my questions.

    I saw nothing in the article you linked to that explains how Clinton’s position is Republican or even how it significantly differs from Obama’s. Does that answer your question?

  36. 36.

    Eolirin

    January 17, 2016 at 2:13 pm

    @smintheus: Um decried weakness is a much more specific claim than what you’ve provided evidence for. Saying ‘this is good progress but there is more left to do yet’ isn’t decrying weakness. Saying ‘we shouldn’t thank people for doing the right thing’ doesn’t amount to claiming we’re on the wrong track diplomatically.

    ETA: You are basically arguing over tone, and not actual proposal or tactics. Hillary is not suggesting we carpet bomb people or that we not pursue a sanctions and diplomacy centric approach to Iran. All of the republicans are.

  37. 37.

    I'mNotSureWhoIWantToBeYet

    January 17, 2016 at 2:17 pm

    @smintheus: I agree with you that her rhetoric often seems over-the-top when i comes to things like Iran:

    The first debate this cycle:
    Q: Which enemy are you most proud of?
    Clinton: Well, in addition to the NRA, the health insurance companies, the drug companies, the Iranians.

    2008:
    “In the next 10 years, during which they might foolishly consider launching an attack on Israel, we would be able to totally obliterate them,” she said.
    “That’s a terrible thing to say but those people who run Iran need to understand that because that perhaps will deter them from doing something that would be reckless, foolish and tragic,” Clinton said.

    :-/

    It’s hard to know how much of that is bluster, how much of it is calculation on her part, how much of it is over-compensating for being a woman, etc. It’s disconcerting.

    But we need to look at what she did as SoS, and the actual positions she’s advocating now, as well the bluster.

    FWIW.

    Cheers,
    Scott.

  38. 38.

    Eolirin

    January 17, 2016 at 2:18 pm

    @I’mNotSureWhoIWantToBeYet: Yes, this exactly.

  39. 39.

    john fremont

    January 17, 2016 at 2:23 pm

    @D58826: I remember a press conference with Gen Schwarzkopf during Desert Storm where he addressed the term carpetbombing when asked by about it by a reporter. Schwarzkopf replied he didn’t know what that term meant and gave the same answer the article you referenced. The conservatives had a field day with it mocking the librul namby pamby reporter knowing nothing about military doctrine and Stormin Norman setting her straight! Today, Ted Cruz can be a contender for the GOP presidential nomination, what a change.

  40. 40.

    gene108

    January 17, 2016 at 2:29 pm

    @smintheus:

    But despite her concerns, Clinton said she was happy to hear of the release of the four Americans.

    “I am greatly relieved by the safe return of American prisoners from Iran,” Clinton said in a statement. “Their families and our country have waited and prayed for this day to come.”

    Clinton also said the nuclear agreement marks an “important achievement of diplomacy” between Iran and the international community.

    “Implementation marks an important step forward in preventing Iran from obtaining a nuclear weapon,” she said. “Iran has dismantled centrifuges, disabled a reactor, and shipped out almost all of its enriched uranium.

    “These are important steps that make the United States, our allies, and the entire world safer,” she added. “I congratulate President Obama and his team, and I’m proud of the role I played to get this process started.”

    TAGS:Iran, Hillary Clinton, Jason Rezaian

    From the rest of your link. Clearly a copy of Republican talking points, by congratulating President Obama and praise of the nuclear deal.

  41. 41.

    D58826

    January 17, 2016 at 2:36 pm

    GOP should replace the elephant with King Kong. Nobody can out chest thump King Kong!!!!

  42. 42.

    gene108

    January 17, 2016 at 2:36 pm

    @smintheus:

    But in the end Team Obama did not negotiate without pre-conditions. Team Obama brought crippling sanctions on Iran. As a condition for negotiating a relief of sanctions, the US and its allies had conditions Iran had to comply with, with regards to its nuclear program.

  43. 43.

    El Caganer

    January 17, 2016 at 2:46 pm

    I wonder if anybody in Washington is delusional enough to think that other countries will follow our lead with these new sanctions on Iran. The concern about Iran’s ballistic missile program was that they would develop missiles capable of carrying nuclear warheads. Since they don’t have and apparently aren’t going to have nuclear warheads, who cares about their ballistic missile program? Several of their neighbors already have ballistic missiles (the Israelis have nuclear-tipped ones), and we’re not shitting ourselves about that.

  44. 44.

    Baud

    January 17, 2016 at 2:51 pm

    @El Caganer:

    I don’t know the answer to that question, but according to the excerpt raven quoted at #3, it was a UN resolution that Iran violated.

  45. 45.

    El Caganer

    January 17, 2016 at 2:59 pm

    @Baud: Yes, it was a UN resolution, but that resolution was passed before Iran had agreed not to develop nuclear weapons. I don’t see any benefit in these new sanctions, other than the rather dubious one of being able to say we stuck a finger in Iran’s eye. It seems to me that we’re undercutting our own diplomatic successes.

  46. 46.

    Baud

    January 17, 2016 at 3:00 pm

    @El Caganer: Fair points.

  47. 47.

    Patricia Kayden

    January 17, 2016 at 3:13 pm

    If Rightwingers hate something, that automatically mean that it is good and sensible. They can go kick rocks. No one cares about their constant outrage that a Black man is in the White House.

  48. 48.

    Rick Taylor

    January 17, 2016 at 3:13 pm

    @smintheus:

    Republicans aren’t even for the undeniable successes.

  49. 49.

    D58826

    January 17, 2016 at 3:20 pm

    @El Caganer: I suspect that the Iranians knew these were coming and don’t care. I think they are on suppliers and businesses and not directly on Iran. So probably more for show than anything else. Obama has to do a bit of chest thumping.

  50. 50.

    Momus

    January 17, 2016 at 3:37 pm

    @D58826: Godzilla can.

  51. 51.

    WaterGirl

    January 17, 2016 at 3:38 pm

    @TaMara (BHF): You guys worry too much about stepping on someone else’s post. We are capable of being in two or more threads at once! In fact, that’s when BJ is the most fun.

    Anne Laurie, stop scaring the other front pagers. :-)

  52. 52.

    WaterGirl

    January 17, 2016 at 3:40 pm

    @smintheus: Ugh on clinton’s response. Yeah, but there’s no difference between Clinton and Obama. Right.

  53. 53.

    WaterGirl

    January 17, 2016 at 3:43 pm

    @Baud: “…but warned that all concerns about Iran are not assuaged.”

    Like President Obama is so dumb that he doesn’t know that? Right now we should be really happy about the way things played out with the 4 Americans who have just returned. What’s to be gained by not thanking Iran for doing the right thing and then saying “but we don’t trust you anyway”?

    :: apparently grouchy about Clinton today ::

  54. 54.

    FlyingToaster

    January 17, 2016 at 3:44 pm

    @El Caganer: I’m pretty sure it’s about the whole “we’re allies with the Saudis so stop building missles that can hit them” thang. Once nukes are off the table, the next issue is who is destabilizing the neighborhood more, Iran or Saudi Arabia. Which list used to include Iraq and Syria, and look what’s happened to them.

  55. 55.

    WaterGirl

    January 17, 2016 at 3:45 pm

    @I’mNotSureWhoIWantToBeYet: If that’s true, I can vouch for the fact that it’s working on me.

  56. 56.

    D58826

    January 17, 2016 at 3:46 pm

    @Momus: point well taken

  57. 57.

    D58826

    January 17, 2016 at 3:49 pm

    ouch two different football games. first half Panthers 31-0. second half so far seahawks 21-0. They switch uniforms at the half??

  58. 58.

    jackmac

    January 17, 2016 at 5:49 pm

    Has Rafael “Carpet Bomb ‘Em Back to the Stone Age” Cruz ever served a day in any military service — U.S. or Canadian?

  59. 59.

    NorthLeft12

    January 17, 2016 at 8:29 pm

    Funny, the CBC website had a story about Pres. Obama “boasting” about what he was able to accomplish with Iran without a war. A little odd wording I thought, but you know what? I agree with Ali [I think] who said, “It’s not bragging if you can do it.”

    Thank Dog that the US had a President with intelligence, confidence, and self-control in charge at this time. I can barely imagine the shitshow that would have occurred under any of the idiot Republican candidates for President.

  60. 60.

    gelfling545

    January 17, 2016 at 8:36 pm

    @WaterGirl: This is a thought I have had. I hate it that one post is deemed “dead” as soon as the next one, possibly on a completely different topic, appears. Most other blogs feature several posts all happily existing at the same time.

  61. 61.

    Uncle Cosmo

    January 17, 2016 at 10:16 pm

    @jackmac: Crooze is Dudley Far-Right of the RCMP–the Reactionary Craxy-ass Mountebank Politicos.

  62. 62.

    Cain

    January 18, 2016 at 5:50 pm

    @NorthLeft12:

    Thank Dog that the US had a President with intelligence, confidence, and self-control in charge at this time. I can barely imagine the shitshow that would have occurred under any of the idiot Republican candidates for President.

    Well likely a U.S. with a flaming hole for a money, a scaling back of all social programs if not elimination, and then finally war with as many 4-5 adversaries. At the end, they will then blame democrats even though they hold all branches of government and will also call us spineless traitors and likely will begin a purge to get rid of us all, because you know, you can’t fail conservatism, you can only fail at implementing it, and if we remove all obstacles (e.g. democrats) we will have prosperity for a million years as we all become serfs and love that life, as we work the land for pittance, while having all the guns passed on by our ancestors, but have no money to buy any bullets.

    The End.

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