In case you’re thinking only low-info trailer trash white racists support Donald Trump, Raw Story shares the “thoughts” of a(nother) second-generation “business leader” born-on-third-base-thinks-he-hit-a-home run car dealer:
Billionaire businessman Ernie Boch Jr., President and CEO of Subaru New England, told CNN on Thursday that he supported Donald Trump because picking a presidential candidate was like having to pick a girl to take home before the bar closes…
Cuomo wondered what gave Boch confidence that Trump could make difficult decisions like whether or not to bomb another country.
Boch argued that Trump could make those decisions “as well as anybody else.”
“You’ve got to think of it like this, it’s 2 a.m. and there’s a few girls at the bar, you have to go home with one of them,” Boch opined. “So, you have to pick who you are with. And I think that Mr. Trump is the best qualified.”
The answer stunned Cuomo.
“Hold on a second, Ernie,” the CNN host replied. “Your analogy for what makes you the right guy when you get the bad call at 2 a.m. is what you need to do in the bar when you have women there and you have to decide which one? Is that how your head works?”
“You’re misunderstanding!” Boch insisted. “If you’re single you understand this. You know, it’s the end of the night, you want to go home with somebody. You know, the bar is about to close. You have to pick somebody!”…
Hey, barring a genuine armed revolution, nothing any of the Repub clowns might do to our battered republic over the next four years is liable to seriously impact Ernie Jr’s nice life. For him, it’s like picking a favorite in the Superbowl — light entertainment, something to chat about over “business deals” at the country club. And Trump just seems right, for some reason.
Speaking of douchecanoes, this is amusing:
Pro-rape meet-up canceled after women's boxing club threatens to show up: https://t.co/80qW1QiQgv pic.twitter.com/FQQ8VUCOgC
— New York Magazine (@NYMag) February 5, 2016
From the NYMag article:
Professional douchebag Roosh V. has made a name for himself advocating offensive misogynistic positions on his terrible website Return of Kings, and he’s collected a handful of devoted followers in the process. But after scheduling an International Meetup Day for his “tribesmen” this weekend, he appears to have met his match: female boxers.
When they heard that Roosh and his followers were planning to meet up in Toronto, the women of the Toronto Newsgirls boxing club decided they’d attend the meet-up, too. That way when Roosh did what he threatened to do — take photos of any female protesters who showed up to dissect and criticize online later — he’d actually be snapping photos of badass bitches in boxing gloves…
Jessica Roy’s article has one of the greatest closing lines in all journalism, but you’re gonna have to click over to read it.
Trentrunner
Question for all, simple yes or no:
In 2008, would Hillary have won the Dem nomination if she had voted against the Iraq war? (Assume this is the ONLY difference.)
Thanks. :)
kc
I hate to be looksist, but that dude is extremely unattractive.
Frankensteinbeck
Have I mentioned that the rich are no smarter, more rational, or less bigoted than the poor?
OzarkHillbilly
Umm, no I don’t.
FlyingToaster
Ernie is a local (to Boston) rich crazy; his dad built the business, and Ernie just keeps it up and plays in his band on the side. I didn’t my my car from him.
He’s let his hair grow too long; it looked better when it stopped at the collar.
Mike in NC
My brother bought a Subaru back when Ernie Sr was running the business. Didn’t like the car very much. Amazed that the son is now a rich asshole.
OzarkHillbilly
@Trentrunner: So pro-invade Iraq Hillary against anti-invade Iraq Hillary?
jl
I hope Trump chooses this Boch Jr. dude as his spokesperson, and then if he does a good job, ditch Palin and choose him for veep nom.
Since this is an open thread, the rapey meet up guys were wise to cancel. I got a mouthpece for the Muay Tai martial arts class so I could join the others with moutpieces and do some ‘light’ sparring after class. I drew one of the instructors.
The instructor asked what I wanted to do. I said ‘light light light very very light light extra light, did I mention light BTW, sparring so I could practice ducking and weaving punches’. He asked if I wanted just punching, or wrassling or kicking or what. I said “are you effing kidding, I no way I can handle all that, no kicking, please.’
I got massakrreed, except when I could close and do some wrassling and try some sweeps.
The whole goal of the thing was defeated for me, since he was so quick, he gave me no time to duck and weave. Which was not fair. On the other hand, he also gave me no time to practice one of my favorite problems, which was to try to duck and weave and somehow lean my face right into the punch.
He was very light when aiming at my head, but not on body blows, and I am quite stiff today.
So, the crude dudes are smart enough to steer clear of pissing off people who know how to fight.
Edit: to be fair to me, we had a different mind set about it. When I landed a solid blow I heard myself automatically apologizing. And I noticed he did not return the favor. The instructor is a nice guy, but I am afraid not a refined gentlemen.
bemused
@OzarkHillbilly:
He also bragged that he was pulled over by a cop when he was driving his son to school but the cop just wanted to thank him for supporting Trump. So that made me wonder if he let his son watch his CNN appearance saying you can’t go home from the bar without a woman.
boatboy_srq
@Frankensteinbeck: It has been said. Doesn’t change that the rich have far more filthy lucre with which to indulge their stupid irrational bigotry.
raven
The Roosh dopes had Athens on their list for tomorrow but supposedly it’s cancelled. A bunch of people I know were posting “be afraid” stuff on the book of faces. Don’t seem like it would take much to walk over there and adjust their shit.
Amir Khalid
So Donald Trump is like the last girl left at the bar, the one the other guys didn’t want to take home? Did this Ernie Boch guy realise how sexist, and insulting (to Donald, not that I’m shedding tears) that sounds?
jl
@efgoldman: Comedian Rob Schneider is a big supporter of school music, and art and drama too. I met him when he made an appearance at concert for a program he funded. Not sure I would officially approve of those grade schoolers watching all of his movies. But many of them probably do, and not a big deal.
CONGRATULATIONS!
Roosh. “Return of Kings”. Professional pickup artist. Flashing bills and Beemers.
Lives in his mother’s basement and is unemployed, I shit you not a bit.
Oh, nobody’s surprised? I wasn’t either. Carry on.
raven
@Amir Khalid: Don’t The Girls All Get Prettier At Closing Time by Mickey Gilley
Germy
C’mon, girls! How can you resist Ernie, Jr. with that shoulder-length hair combined with horn rims?? Yuh stuck up or something?
Where have I seen that look before? Oh, yeah:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQx9Tr4QIzA
OzarkHillbilly
@bemused: I’m pretty sure his son is well on the way to full indoctrination in how to “be a man”. Those type are never too quiet about their views on the ‘fairer sex’. Unless the wife is around. Then, if they know what is good for them, they STFU.
Rob in CT
@Trentrunner:
I think so. I voted for Obama over her for that reason and, clearly, that means everybody else did too. ;)
bemused
@OzarkHillbilly:
Yes, I was imagining the “comprehensive” sex ed education the son is getting from douchedad. Eeww.
feebog
So freaking tired of these A-holes who were born to into wealth and now think they are the smartest person in the world because they didn’t piss it all away. This guy would be an Assistant Manager of a Rite-Aid drug store if he hadn’t been born with a silver spoon stuck up his ass.
catclub
@efgoldman: I think she gets it. It is not clear that Obama even runs in 2008 in that VERY different theoretical world. One basis of his run was the fall 2002 speech when he said he opposed stupid wars.
Doug R
@Trentrunner: Not sure Senator Obama would have in that case.
Germy
@CONGRATULATIONS!: What a catch!
bemused
Roosh panicked by female boxers is pretty damn hilarious.
oklahomo
@raven: I think all of these douchebags’ mothers need to show up and beat the living shit out of them with cast iron skillets.
raven
@oklahomo: I wonder how many there really are? Did you catch the “pet shop” secret words?
Schlemazel (parmesan rancor)
@Trentrunner:
No. There was far and away too much excitement for Obama. I live in a white plurality (not majority) district. In presidential years we get 20-30 people to our precinct caucus. In 2008 we had over 200. Not all were people of color but most were young & ready to go. I was not a fan of Senator Obama and had not gone to caucus for him but I changed my mind, I saw history happening. Even though I thought there was no way this nation would elect a black man president, I knew we had to try. Clinton may have been outmaneuvered but It was the huge enthusiasm gap that really ended her chances.
OzarkHillbilly
@bemused: I know a guy like that, he is one of those people you just don’t want to be alone with (he’s straight, but twisted in a way that is just…. discomforting) His son is even more perverted. Got busted for acts of pedophilia.
Snarkworth
The thing is, Ernie, when you pick a president, it’s like a one-way thing. When you pick a girl to take home from a bar, she has to want to go home with you. And you know what? You’re sitting on this barstool over here, and she’s WAAY over there. There’s a reason for that.
catclub
@Amir Khalid: No, Donald is like the least unattractive of the few unattractive girls left at the bar at 2am. Just think who wants to take home Ted Cruz at that hour?
Schlemazel (parmesan rancor)
@OzarkHillbilly:
He does, he has no value as a human unless he makes a conquest. Its the same thing with car sales I am sure. As long as he can screw someone he is a real man
bystander
I figured Boch just admires another bootstrap success story like Trump. I was shocked to see Boch inherited his wealth.
Schlemazel (parmesan rancor)
@feebog:
You are wrong! The guy would only dream of getting that assistant managers gig. The manager would have given it to the girl “because he was hoping to do her” or the colored guy “cuz you know racial discrimination against white guys”. It couldn’t have been all those times he was late, or hung over or caught sleeping in the back room.
Germy
“I jokingly say that when we were growing up in Midland and Houston that mom was fortunate not to have a child abuse hotline available, because the discipline of learning right and wrong was her doing.”
– Jeb Bush
http://www.esquire.com/news-politics/news/a41850/jeb-bush-mom-awkward-interview/
Matt McIrvin
Ernie Sr. used to run these weird, folksy ads for Boch Tie-yota featuring Kramer, the Magical Donkey (who passed away last year).
Schlemazel (parmesan rancor)
@Germy:
Well she did a shitty job, we can tell by the way you, Neal and W behaved. The fact that she beat you and failed is prima facia that beating kids does not work
bystander
I also admire Boch’s honesty and refusal to bow to the PC libbies when he notes that women are not attracted to a business famous for backstabbing, theft by trickery and selling dangerously defective vehicles. Another example of how they just don’t have what it takes.
jl
@Germy: People criticize Taibbi, but I think he was absolutely correct about Jeb. Jeb would be a satisfactory commercial lawyer cracking dumb jokes while running meetings for strip mall deals near Tampa. Not cut out for big time politics where he has to put in some high quality effort to win.
John Revolta
I’m not sure how this is a big defeat for this douche Roosh. Lemme see if I can guess what his next post looks like:
“Meetup cancelled by violent threats from manhating ballbusting homo dyke bitches. P.S. queer.”
Don’t see how this will hurt his brand much.
CONGRATULATIONS!
That’s Geraldo Rivera with a wig. You can’t fool me.
oklahomo
@raven: So they meet in parks and have code phrases…I’m thinking they need to embrace their inner park-queens and be done with it. But “Do you know where the pet shop is?” I pity any pets they do own.
bystander
I’ve also found the Babs As Vigilant, Stern Taskmaster pretty funny. First of all, she’s raising the kids with no nanny, no help? Plus, Babs packed Jebula! off to Phillips at 14, and that was pretty much it for That Force of Nature Earth Mother Babs.
OzarkHillbilly
@Schlemazel (parmesan rancor): I have to say I never understood that, and I was a dog. If a woman looked at me that way a woman has of looking at a man…. Sh!t, I was like a bee to honey. But I don’t think I ever headed out my door thinking, “I have to get laid tonight.” In fact in all my years I only left a bar with a woman twice. One was a woman I had known for at least a year and the 2nd was some drunk chick who was literally going to get someone killed. I’d had a best friend get killed by a drunk and letting her go in that condition was not an option. I slept on her couch.
Mustang Bobby
Based on his appearance, this guy couldn’t get picked up in a bar that caters to Klingons.
shortribs
Everyone in and around Trump is just creepy, many levels creepy.
Germy
@jl: I like the way Taibbi describes the candidates. For example, he said Scott Walker looked like an overdressed traffic cop.
Why has Taibbi been criticized?
Frankensteinbeck
@boatboy_srq:
Too true, but I point it out as a piece of data for the next discussion of whether the rich must be fleecing the rubes and can’t believe the same shit the rubes do. Yeah. They do.
bemused
@shortribs:
Yup and he’s been collecting them by the thousands for months.
Germy
@CONGRATULATIONS!: It’s Peter Sellers in “What’s New Pussycat”
p.a.
Ernie’s a big PBS supporter.
Germy
I went into moderation for mentioning a Peter Sellers movie??
Schlemazel (parmesan rancor)
@OzarkHillbilly:
I never picked up a woman in my life. I just don’t have that in me, lack of self confidence maybe I don’t know. I have known guys that make a habit of it & never liked a one of them, but that may just be a small sample size.
Howard Beale IV
I just hope that Roosh V will eventually be relegated to the Internet dustbin and be soon forgotten. To be living in his mother’s basement not only proves the archetype of the rightwing loudmouth living in his mother’s basement, but this also has to be a massive embarrassment to tho those who revered this douchecane (especially when recent pictures showed him with a blowup doll in the background!)
And to think that folks like the resident minority hire Milo Yiannopolous and The Rage Furby would be his fellow travelers.
Mike J
@Germy:
Isn’t hew the one that said TARP was going to cost $27,000,000,000,000 (trillion), when in fact the government turned a profit on it?
It’s not that he’s not very bright, he just doesn’t care the least bit about facts. He’s going to tell the story he wants to tell, and a lot of people really want to hear that story, even if it isn’t true.
jl
@Germy:
” Why has Taibbi been criticized? ”
You won’t have to wait long on this blog to find out.
Two I remember is that he is a talentless nepotism dope of a journalist. And, he committed inaccuracy crimes in attacking some of the banker masters of the universe after the financial crises, particularly Dimon, I think. Maybe.
FlyingToaster
@Mustang Bobby: He counts on his wallet picking up the girls, not his appearance.
OzarkHillbilly
@Schlemazel (parmesan rancor): Heh. I have to be honest, the time I did go home with the woman I had known for over a year? It was at her suggestion. I just never went to bars looking for women. Like you, the pick up thing was not me.
Mike J
@jl: I don’t know anything about nepotism (and frankly don’t really care), but I know one way to get hits from liberal blogs is to say “banker masters of the universe argle bargle gaaaarrrrgh banksters” over and over again and people eat that shit up with a spoon.
What makes it really annoying is the fact that there really are huge problems and huge crimes in the American financial sector. Facts are valued less in the conversation about the economy than anger is.
the Conster, la Citoyenne
The privilege this fuckwad thinks he has – the last girl at the bar would take one look at him and tell him that going home with such an ugly entitled douchebro would the very last thing on earth that would happen.
Just Some Fuckhead
So it’s gone from who do you want to have a beer with to who do you want to fuck when you’ve had too many beers.
I guess in a few years, we’ll be picking Republican presidents on who would you want to knock up.
oklahomo
@Just Some Fuckhead: I think I’ll be dead from alcohol poisoning before I fuck Donald Trump.
Germy
@Mike J: @jl: wow, I didn’t know that. I haven’t read much of him, just his mocking of the GOP candidates, which I enjoy. I couldn’t get into his wall street exposés because they induced ADD in me.
ThresherK (GPad)
@OzarkHillbilly: Conversely, none of them have to go home with Ernie Boch, and he’s ignoring how many of the women have already high-tailed it out of there to a voice his “last call goggles”.
The commercial Boch runs for their dealership are animated in a very creepy style. Somebody with that money could afford better.
jl
@Mike J: @Germy:
I can’t say much about Taibbi’s reporting on the financial crisis either. I don’t rely on him as my main source of into on that, since I figure economists and financial columnists are better. Why read Taibbi to get into when you can read Krugman, or Dean Baker, or Big Picture of Shiller? I read him for his campaign reporting and snark.
Germy
@efgoldman: No, he was a stoner who didn’t bother to study and didn’t give a crap about the school or his classmates.
Woodrowfan
I would happy stand in the cold to hold those young women’s coats while they pounded the living crap out of those guys.
Woodrowfan
@Trentrunner: definitely maybe.
retiredeng
Sorry, but the entire Boch family is basically trailer trash with money.
Germy
@efgoldman: Do you remember the old joke about the guy who goes in for a routine physical, and the doctor notices his pen1s is bright yellow and orange. Doctor is alarmed; asks him a bunch of questions about symptoms, trying to figure out the cause? He asks about lifestyle, and the guy admits he doesn’t do much, just likes to watch porn and eat Cheetos.
Mnemosyne
I just finished watching “The Big Short.”
Damn.
WarMunchkin
@Mike J:
Heh. Not that I want to pick a fight, but do you have a source on this? Because it would be funny if that were not true and you said:
Howard Beale IV
@CONGRATULATIONS!: The article does not state that’s he’s unemployed.
Joel
Ernie Boch is a billionare?! really? A billion ain’t what it used to be, I guess.
Iowa Old Lady
@Mnemosyne: What was really chilling to me was that I wound up cheering for the guys who were betting on the crash.
Germy
@Joel: Some of the most horrible people (and families) in the nation get filthy rich running car dealerships. Their customers get screwed buying the cars, getting the cars serviced, and trading in the cars. Even those of us who avoid their dealerships get treated to their egotistical “funny” TV commercials.
WarMunchkin
@Mike J:
Actually, found it myself:
link
Tom Q
@Germy: Taibbi was loud and proud about hoping the Affordable Care Act would crash and burn — he said if it passed it would doom Democrats for a generation, and you could hear the glee in his voice at the thought.
I view Taibbi as what I call a To Kill a Mockingbird liberal — Atticus loses his case and his client gets killed, but he has the moral high ground, and that’s all such liberals want out of life. That the ACA gave umpteen million people access to health care is meaningless to him, because it didn’t create health care utopia.
That’s why I criticize Taibbi.
Brachiator
Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha!!!
Love it. Absolutely love it.
singfoom
@Mnemosyne: Remember that movie the next time someone says “It was all legal.”
Uhuh.
And how we couldn’t just couldn’t prosecute any of the poor dears on Wall Street, they didn’t know anything. Read the book years ago and the movie still makes my blood boil. Remember the best part, “bespoke tranche opportunities” are currently being offered by the big funds.
Germy
@Tom Q: Jesus, after hearing stories like this I’m liking Taibbi less and less.
singfoom
@Tom Q: I don’t really care or not whether people like Taibbi and I’ve definitely heard he can be a jerk, but his book The Divide definitely makes him look like he really cares about other people and justice in general.
Germy
Trump’s dad had the honor of being featured in a Woody Guthrie song. That’s classy!
Bobby Thomson
@Frankensteinbeck: they do tend to be more educated, but usually in the dark arts.
trollhattan
The hits keep on coming. January Arctic sea ice extent hit a historic low in 2016. Surprising no-one and emphasizing yet another reason no Republican can ever occupy the White House.
The trend graphs are especially depressing {best read in a Marvin the paranoid android voice}.
OzarkHillbilly
@Mnemosyne: The book is awesome. Michael Lewis is another of my heroes. Go read Liar’s Poker.
OzarkHillbilly
@Iowa Old Lady: I read the Big Short and the Greatest Trade Ever and all I can say is fuck John Paulson, the others not so much.
Germy
Triumph the Insult Comic kicked out of GOP event for New Hampshire primary:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OnoEYjn7EYo
Iowa Old Lady
@OzarkHillbilly: They made money by the fistful, and our system lets them keep it.
Brachiator
@Mnemosyne:
I did a movie double feature a while back and saw both “The Big Short” and “Spotlight.’
I had a “D’oh!” moment when I realized that the films were connected thematically. One of the reasons that the banks or the arch bishop got away with horrible deeds was because almost everyone took their position and authority for granted.
And even with its over simplifications, “The Big Short” was Big Fun. Sad. Crazy making big fun.
The tv mini-series about Madoff (good job from Richard Dreyfuss) made it a Trifecta of Malfeasance.
p.a.
@srv: Didn’t seem to be an issue 1981-1993, 2001-2009.
OzarkHillbilly
@Iowa Old Lady: When I was reading the Greatest Trade Ever (it was a vehicle for making John Paulson out to be a genius) all I could think was “And this helped out the country, or Wall Street, or anyone other than themselves, how?” Who ever it was that said “economic weapons of mass destruction” was absolutely right, and all for the enrichment of a select few. The Big Short was a much more balanced piece and honest to a fault. There was one guy working out of his apartment writing a financial blog who knew, just f’n knew, it was all a big house of cards. And nobody would listen to him. He made some money, but he could not find the investors he needed to make a big play. That guy, I kind of felt sorry for.
The Republic, Blah Blah Blah...
Whoa… what a great name for a rock band…
The Republic, Blah Blah Blah...
@OzarkHillbilly: Right…
Paulson knew he was screwing people…
The others just guessed right and got lucky…
WereBear
The Chasing Madoff documentary drove one analyst out of finance and into the SEC because “I wanted to sleep at night.”
moderateindy
@catclub:
Exactly. Give this guy a break. It was basically a backhanded compliment to Trump. He was saying that Trump was the best option out of a group of not particularly attractive options. The “last girls left at the bar” analogy was him making a joke. A fairly standard joke at that. So how about some of us that are looking to be offended dial down the fake outrage, and leave that to the right wingers. They’re way better at it. Besides, the RWNJ say enough actually offensive things that you really don’t need to manufacture something out of a fairly innocuous joke
Mnemosyne
@efgoldman:
They won’t let me listen to Hamilton at work. Something something “bleeding ears,” I can’t remember.
Mnemosyne
@Iowa Old Lady:
I think the attitude of the film was that at least those guys knew something was wrong, even if they wanted to profit from that wrongness. You’ll notice that the people who were conflicted about profiting from it got most of the screen time, not the douchebag who just wanted the money. The screenwriter and director were definitely walking a very thin line, though.
catclub
@trollhattan:
I like the bit at the Rest. end. univ. where martin calls from the car park, and zaphod says “he is threatening to wash his head at me.” [Shall I stick my head in a bucket of water?]
catclub
@singfoom: Well, except form the document signing (forging)
lawbreaking, and the MERS? (mortgage registration system) they came up with to illegally sidestep county registrars of deeds. [The registrars were inconvenient] Those only BECAME legal because they had more and better paid lawyers.
Mnemosyne
@catclub:
What really came across in the movie is that basically nobody has any fucking idea what these financial instruments are or what they do, but breaking up Big Finance will have to be done very, very carefully, because letting investment banks just go under could cause a whirlpool that brings the whole damn house of cards down *worldwide,* not just in the US.
Basically, Big Finance (not just Wall Street — this shit is worldwide) is a three-year-old holding a nuclear bomb: if we’re not careful about how we get that nuke away from them, they’re going to glass everything in a hundred-mile radius without ever realizing it.
father pussbucket
@kc:
No need to apologize; he clearly looks exactly the way he wants to look.
Exurban Mom
@Trentrunner: No. It wasn’t the war vote as much as campaign malpractice by her team that doomed her.