I’m legitimately more excited for this movie then any other I’ve been maybe since 1999 and TPM. But maybe I have horrible taste too.
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Mr Stagger Lee
Since I don’t have cable I am streaming from Sky-sports though later I am going to a French stream for laughs and giggles. Disappointed there is no Serbian or Chinese feeds.
Missed the promo, but I’ve run across the story line in the comics a bit here and there.
I wonder how they will tie it into Agents of Shield, like they did with the Winter Soldier line, and how it will impact the Avengers Infinity War storyline they are setting up.
On average. the Super Bowl is a tight competitive game about a third of the time, just sorta ok game won decisively but not overwhelmingly that wouldn’t be anything special during regular season about a third of the time, and a Stupor Bowl blowout about a third of the time.
If you’re expecting a link to actual detailed stats to back up this assertion, it would jump into the first three letters of my “assertion”.
24.
Betty Cracker
Bullshit call.
25.
gene108
Panthers got screwed on the replay / challenge
26.
Peale
Disney appears to be going for baroque with the Jungle Book 3d
27.
The Other Chuck
Wow, bad call on the replay. I want Denver to win, but not that way.
This is why I want to completely nuke instant replay in all sports. It’s a time suck that kills the natural rhythm of the game, and in the end, it still leaves us with the wrong call. Just kill it.
@The Other Chuck: There’s also a very strange epistemology at work in instant replay systems and the requirement that the call can only be overturned if the evidence is absolutely conclusive. (We can debate whether or not officials actually follow this standard, but it is the standard.) This privileging of the live call, even when made from a bad angle or when the action happened too quickly for the human eye, makes no sense. If the replay indicates that the call was most likely wrong, it stands.
I think that’s what happened here. The call was almost certainly wrong, but there’s just enough doubt that they couldn’t remove the “almost” from that evaluation, and so the call stands even though there was no way the on-field official could possibly know whether it hit the ground or not.
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Mike J
There won’t be any kids playing commie soccer when they should be worshiping the NFL.
This is why I want to completely nuke instant replay in all sports. It’s a time suck that kills the natural rhythm of the game, and in the end, it still leaves us with the wrong call. Just kill it.
That’s one of the great virtues of soccer officiating – NO instant replays, players have to take the judgment calls (and no-calls) of the referee crew, whether right or wrong, or be prepared to get caught flat-footed by a quick restart if they try to argue. I do, however think the use of goal-line technology to assist in determining whether a ball completely crossed over the line for a goal is a good exception – the assistant referees, whose job includes making that call, have an inherent conflict with their other duty to stay with the second to last defender to judge offside, usually ten or more yards upfield from the goal line.
Agreed. What is is with Doritos? For a supposed “food” product, their ads are regularly retch-inducing.
52.
Heliopause
Got a bit of a bad feeling for the Panthers right now. Not just that they’re down by ten already but that this is the first time in four months that they’ve played a game that was both (1) away from home and (2) against a non-joke team.
53.
jl
Not watching. I’m going to go over to a party and eat junk food, though. Waited until after the game started to get my Superb Owl food, since too damn crowded before.
Which reminds me that I saw several chicken pix on internet and one in the store giving stats on the horrifying chicken genocide for their wings. The stats don’t match each other. And some suggest that chickens have far more than two wings. I don’t get it.
But most important, BC’s chickens look far crankier than other chickens.
Those are my deep Super Bowl thoughts for today.
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Baud
Nice play.
55.
The Sailor
The announcers are terrible … almost as bad as the refs.
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Betty Cracker
@cckids: Bad ad award so far goes to that puppy-monkey-baby abomination, though. Nightmare inducing!
@Tissue Thin Pseudonym: I agree. Instant replay in the NFL is a disaster. It needs to be fundamentally changed. I recommend removing all automatic reviews and instead giving each coach 2 challenges per half. Those are the only reviewed plays.
This works for me because theoretically it eliminates the worst calls – if a ref really botches a big play, replay can help overturn the bad call.
And it won’t effect gameplay except for the 4 times it’s used per game.
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Peale
@Tissue Thin Pseudonym: what the shouod do is eliminate the referees and install 10,000 cameras.
@redshirt: replay works fine. The NFL needs to simplify the catch rule. That’s 90% of the replays.
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MobiusKlein
@Mike J: It’s a nice soccer pitch. (well, 4 pitches), but it’s literally in the shadows of Levi stadium.
At some point, somebody will decide on how much $$$ it takes to get a new field setup elsewhere, and turn that lot into parking.
63.
SiubhanDuinne, Annoying Scoundrel
O/T, trying to send an email to Anne Laurie and Betty Cracker. How exactly am I supposed to do that? I go to Contact/Select an Author and click on the names I want, but nothing happens. I feel as though I’ve mentioned this before. Don’t know whether it’s a glitch of the BJ redesign or something else, but it’s annoying as all fuck.
@SiubhanDuinne, Annoying Scoundrel: Don’t know what the trouble is with the drop-down, but my address is bettycrackerfl-at-gmail-dot-com.
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Jim, Foolish Literalist
@Betty Cracker: Did I miss
the Jeb ad?
and I was just gonna post this
Matt Oswalt @ MattOswaltVA 30m30 minutes ago
so far these #SB50 commercials are basically just SNL sketches that didn’t make it past the Tuesday pitch meeting
My Twitter timeline suggests America is losing its collective mind, vomiting nightmare images of babies like pea soup out of Linda Blair. That’s nice I guess. It’s all puppies and kittens here tonight, and then an unexpected early bedtime because apparently we’re showing the house tomorrow morning. (Getting the ground level photo-worthy and showing-worthy after how messy it was required a Herculean two-week effort the completion of which still seems damn near miraculous.)
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chopper
Jesus, talib.
75.
Mr. Twister
@TallPete: That last play should have resulted in an ejection.
That last play should have resulted in an ejection.
Without an ejection, there is literally nothing you can;t do to stop somebody on the 1 yard line. You could pull out a gun and murder the ball carrier and it will still be half the distance to the goal line.
You can only select one name at a time, and then you have to click the unobtrusive “send email” button that is below the dropdown list. Did you get that far? Or does it seem to do nothing before you get to that point?
For me, if I select Anne Laurie and the hit the “send email” button, it opens my email program and puts her address in the TO: field of a new email message. If you want to send email to both Anne Laurie and Betty Cracker, you will have to do that once for each of them and then copy/paste the second email address into the other email that was automatically created. Does that make sense?
Giving up your last challenge for the sake of seven yards in the second quarter is probably not good strategery.
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WaterGirl
@schrodinger’s cat: It’s working like crap for me. :-( The fan on my laptop comes on almost constantly now and even with 8 GB of memory it fills up in a heartbeat. Safari now behaves for me like it did before I installed the ad blocker, ClicktoFlash and Ghostery years ago. Very frustrating.
93.
ruemara
I’m still confused about why the Super Bowl is in Santa Clara but no one from CA is in it. Isn’t it like hosted by one of the teams playing? It seems weird.
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Josie
@SiubhanDuinne, Annoying Scoundrel: I’m on a Mac using Firefox.
Below the author names is a button that says “send email” after I click on a name. Maybe it’s a glitch in the mobile edition or your browser?
Up With People. But you’re probably too young for that.
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Betty Cracker
@schrodinger’s cat: Are you on an Apple product? It works great for me on my Windoze laptop, but it’s glitchy again on the iPhone and iPad. For awhile, it wasn’t, then it was again.
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Mr Stagger Lee
Oh that is an expensive hold.
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Onkel Fritze
@ruemara: No, it never is. Next year they’ll play in Houston.
102.
Elizabelle
Hi all. I don’t got a dog in this Superb Owl fight, although I have been to Denver, and they use my high school colors. Someone told me the Panthers are from Charlotte. That’s fighting words to someone from Virginia. That’s where all our banks (and bank jobs) done gone.
Who is rooting for whom?
And — OT — Betty C mentioned she’d been reading the Rolling Stone issue on David Bowie. Have you guys seen it on newstands? I have been looking, and have yet to encounter it in the wild. There was the Leo DiCaprio cover, and I see the Rolling Stone special issue re the 1990s with Kurt Cobain in a suit.
But have yet to see the Bowie issue, and would like it …
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lol chikinburd
Oh, and Puppy Bowl XII’s halftime show was oddly satisfying, particularly if you can imagine all the rent-inflating techies getting eaten. (It’s coming up on the hour.)
Thank you so much. It does make sense now that you’ve explained it. I am ashamed to say that I never noticed the “Send email” button, but now that I know about it I guess I’m good. (Used to be that I would click on a FrontPager’s email address and it would take me to a shiny new “compose email” with the “To” field already populated.)
Anyhow, I ended up sending not one, not two, but (inadvertently) three or four emails to BC, so I hope at some point she will reward my tenacity and share the awesome photo I sent her.
Super Bowl venues are chosen a couple of years in advance, so no one knows what teams will play. They are generally held in warm weather cities or ones with domed stadiums. That has changed a bit after having one at Giants stadium and word is they will be having more cold weather Super Bowls. I am wholeheartedly in raver of that. Football should be played in actual weather, not these sterile atmospheres.
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Mr Stagger Lee
@ruemara: The sites are chosen in advance, usually the NFL likes Miami, or New Orleans sometimes in warm weather sites, but tey seem to expand to other places like New York a couple years ago or Detroit. Dallas(Irving) will be popular because it is a big stadium, and I guess the new LA stadium in Inglewood, will be popular SB site.
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The Dangerman
Denver wants to give the game to Carolina but they won’t take it.
Sloppy across the board (Carolina, Denver, Refs, Phil Simms, Lady Gaga).
I’m looking for book review blogs that are interested in reviewing Becoming Phoebe. I will be happy to send a review copy in just about any form other than audiobook to anyone with an established review blog. So, if you have such a blog, or know someone who does, please contact me.
Aint that the truth. I think also a little “over confidence” on the part of the Panthers who have had their way with the last two opponents and maybe didn’t bring the same energy. They got off slow. Of course, that is why you have to play the game — not just talk it. I’m not a big Broncos fan but being a football fan of both the Chicago Bears and Seahawks, I know all about woulda-coulda.
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WaterGirl
@SiubhanDuinne, Annoying Scoundrel: You are not alone. For me, it was the similarly unobtrusive “Post Comment” button on the iPad that got me. I was looking and looking for something that would allow me to post my comment.
Leave a reply! Join the discussion! Feel Free to contribute. All huge. :: ssh: post comment :: ssh, don’t tell anybody. :-)
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PurpleGirl
@schrodinger’s cat: Not having any problems at this time with refreshing the thread. I’ve also been moving between FireFox and Chrome (for kittens cams).
@geg6: I was trying to figure out why the stadiums are “doomed” and then I realized the word was “domed”. Made it more interesting that way, but still “duh” on my part.
127.
Heliopause
I was going to say that this is a good defensive game between two good defensive teams but in fact there is an awful lot of sloppy play out there.
Newton and his receiver corp are out of synch and rattled.
Problem was Newton in the beginning. He was overthrowing wide open receivers.
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Elie
Wade Phillips is an old defensive cowpoke… son of Buddy Ryan of Chicago Bears superbowl champions and Lord of the ’46 defense. Wade understands defense is primarily physical domination and speed because that gets into the opponents head. I thought that the Panthers were faster but it doesn’t look like that was correct. The only break that the Panthers have is that Manning has his feet in two cement buckets. If he could move, they would be dead ducks teemed with that Bronco defense.
Is it too late to suit up Trent Dilfer so we can get some good SB QB play?
141.
gwangung
Well, if Newton settles down, Denver might be in trouble…
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John Revolta
@geg6: I remember way back in the wayback when “Up With People” used to do the halftime every year. We would mock them mercilessly but then there was one year I had to eat my mocks when they actually impressed me with some kinda big finish. Although there might have been chemical enhancements involved.
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Temporarily Max McGee (Soon Enough to Be Andy K Again)
The amount of preparation for this shindig couldn’t possibly happen in two weeks–I’m not sure it could be done in a year. They rerouted the mass transit system, fixed potholes in the freeway leading to the stadium, created this huge “NFL Experience” thing up at Moscone Center in SF. I got stopped by a police escort yesterday taking the Panthers team buses to practice. It’s just crazy.
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Elie
Cam is exhausted. He was not ready for a real physical/mental challenge and it shows. Too much focus on his clothing rather than staying focused on what he needs to do. He was not ready. Period
@Elie: I think the Denver defensive line had some input on that. Whacka-a-doolie, it’s a real game instead of the blowout I thought it was going to be.
GO PANTHERS
153.
Onkel Fritze
7 – 13 is still a one-score game. The Panthers need to get a grip on their nerves and things might go very different in the 2nd half. Or not.
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Cacti
Reasonably good defensive game, lots of sloppy offensive mistakes.
Talib should have been ejected for that face mask penalty.
My bad — Wade Phillips is Bum Phillips son — not Buddy Ryan. Looks like he definitely knew how to prepare for this and I stand by my assessment of Cam and time spent picking outfits instead of getting mentally ready.
…instead of the blowout I thought it was going to be.
I had it as a Carolina blowout, too, but Defense can still win games (and, going back to my last comment, has there been a worse SB winning QB than Dilfer?)
I think Newton will settle down, and Carolina wins this game, but it will be close.
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Temporarily Max McGee (Soon Enough to Be Andy K Again)
I’m still confused about why the Super Bowl is in Santa Clara but no one from CA is in it. Isn’t it like hosted by one of the teams playing? It seems weird.
Super Bowl is played in host cities. Usually based on mild winter weather or having a climate controlled domed stadium for cold weather cities. If the team of the host city made it to the game, it would be a coincidence and has never happened to my knowledge.
I’ve always found this a little odd given that American football hangs its hat on being played in all types of weather conditions.
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ihop
sobotkas! 3 of them!
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The Other Chuck
@Cacti: The Super Bowl is first and foremost a business. Asses in seats makes more money when there’s more seats. More money spent all around when it’s in a major city.
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Cacti
Also think that the Denver offense is going to have to put together some kind of touchdown drive for a win. Denver’s defense was lights out in the first half, but it’s still just a 6-point game.
The Super Bowl is first and foremost a business. Asses in seats makes more money when there’s more seats. More money spent all around when it’s in a major city.
I get why they do it. Just have never liked the idea that weather should be a factor in every game except the biggest one.
But yeah, the people spending $2-grand for nosebleed seats are going to have a better time in a place that’s 70 degrees in February vs. 10 below.
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Temporarily Max McGee (Soon Enough to Be Andy K Again)
The Niners at Stanford Stadium, too, against the Dolphins.
I stand corrected.
170.
gene108
On “suggestions” of people on this thread, I am watching the Up With People half-time shows. They are not that different than modern half time shows. A band and a bunch of people dancing on the field, probably screwing the turf for players like today, but fewer fire works.
171.
The Dangerman
Can we consciously uncouple from this Halftime Show?
172.
Peale
Didn’t Bruno Mars do uptown funk last year or the year before?
My personal favorite crap halftime show was singer/magician/Elvis impersonator, Elvis Presto in Super Bowl XXIII.
174.
Mike J
Coldplay go for a curry every weekend, hence the Indian themed set dressing.
175.
The Pale Scot
Bruno Mars costumes are a disaster, where’s the cool retro threads?
Oh, I see. They’re not allowed to look better than Beyonce.
176.
Schlemazel (parmesan rancor)
I had never heard a Coldplay song before, I feel like I lost something tonight that I can never get back. I thought Bruno Mars was a singer not yet another boy group. Beyonce did show us her one talent when she bent over & shook it. Now you kids get off my damn lawn!
177.
Mike J
I would have paid super bowl ticket prices to see Beyonce beat Chris Martin to death with a ball peen hammer, but it hasn’t happened.
Yet.
178.
ThresherK
I swear one year in the Superdome they had Steve Wonder driving a car and then ascending stairs to a platform to sing. Can someone back me up on this? (Or conversely tell me I’m full of beans; I’ll accept that if it’s the case.)
Now we have an “ode to halftime” montage during halftime? I guess “The Simpsons” has predicted everything!
What is the purpose of the half time show? Don’t people want to get back to the game. Its seems like a waste of time to me.
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Schlemazel (parmesan rancor)
@Cacti:
I remember a lot of bitching when the game was held in Detroit (IIRC) the first cold weather site. Later I read that a lot of reporters were upset because the city had tried to clean up a bit so there were not enough hookers to go around. The reporters took their frustration out on the city in their reports. I heard – second hand – that Minneapolis made sure to not make that mistake when they hosted & got much better reviews.
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JPL
@PurpleGirl: This weekend, I had company and was left with a copy of the final season. I just finished it in time to watch halftime. no spoilers
I remember a lot of bitching when the game was held in Detroit (IIRC) the first cold weather site. Later I read that a lot of reporters were upset because the city had tried to clean up a bit so there were not enough hookers to go around. The reporters took their frustration out on the city in their reports. I heard – second hand – that Minneapolis made sure to not make that mistake when they hosted & got much better reviews.
@schrodinger’s cat: Because the midfield turf ain’t gonna destroy itself?
Seriously, I have no better idea. It’s there because of sheer inertia.
The only American pro team sports to escape this are hockey and baseball. Even the MLS Cup falls prey. I don’t like overblown Star Spangled Banners beforehand, and God Bless Americas during the 7th inning stretch, but they are simply not as bad.
And at least in collegiate sports there are the actual bands from the schools.
@Baud: I read it was a So Carolina ad. They’re burning through that hundred million too fast for national, I guess, and they want some rat-fuck revenge money left over
Well, good thing he’s below None of the Above on the ballot.
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Jim, Foolish Literalist
@The Other Chuck: @Baud: I think he’s trailing None of the Above.
Florina changed her name in a bid to move up in the polls and get back on the debate stage?
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Schlemazel (parmesan rancor)
@ThresherK:
The most famous overblown anthem was at a Penguins Stanley Cup game. It went on forever (and was parodied by the Simpsons) Pit blamed the singer for their loss & it sort of killed his career.
I just LUV the jingo-fest the 7th inning stretch has become, God Bless America followed by I’m Proud to be an American. Really they should finish it off by executing some brown foreigners at second base.
DOINK! Gaia save me, Panthers, you are killing me here.
Solace: still a one-possession game. Oy.
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Betty Cracker
Unfortunate field goal miss.
@Elmo: I’ll join you on the Bleachers of Shame. I like some of their stuff too.
222.
Schlemazel (parmesan rancor)
HEY! if you want some real excitement, US vs. CHina in curling on NBCSports!!! If NBCSports had a second channel like ESPN it would be carrying the international paint drying competition.
@NotMax: That’s okay. Diversity is the spice of life.
225.
The Dangerman
Sure, they missed the field goal, but that series of downs tells me Denver is in deep shit; Carolina may have figured out a scheme that works … and I don’t think Peyton has it in him.
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ruemara
@Cacti: WEl thank you for explaining it. I am unfortunately quite drunk on vodka and therefore insensate. BUt I appreciate the clarity. about 2 hours to sobriety.
You Cannot Do that In the Super Bowl if your team is NOT AHEAD.
WOW
The Panthers just look unprepared physically and psychologically. This is a game they should be able to easily win and instead they are not just not winning, but they look LAME. Whatever, looking LAME after a year when they lost only one game…. Man its gotta hurt…
It proves that if you have a good team around you, you do not have to be the best quarterback in the league… you have to do the basics and minimize your mistakes…
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ThresherK
@Schlemazel (parmesan rancor): I really enjoy hockey, but somehow don’t remember the actual event, but I do remember Bleeding Gums Murphy going on for about 40 minutes on the anthem on a Simpsons.
Ken Burns’ Baseball has a piano rendition of a few songs used often, notably Take Me Out to the Ball Game (including the verse) and the Star Spangled Banner. Bruce Hornsby may have been the pianist. The anthem comes in at about 1 minute 15 seconds, even with the last stanza slowed down.
Personally, I would love that the Panthers would win and send Mr Supplement home hanging his head. But I am a realist and I see what I see. The Panthers remain rattled and have not found a way to win this psychologically. Its in their heads.
@ThresherK:
I just tried googling & nothing comes up for it. I remember it being 91 or 92 & there was a big whoop about it because he really did go on for a very long time. Perhaps our host would remember? He was just a boy but still
@Bob In Portland: It makes me want to go to the bathroom, both of them.
ETA SHEESH GUYS WTF
EETA saved by the Fit Bit
246.
Baud
Turnovers…
247.
Baud
Damn good run.
248.
Schlemazel (parmesan rancor)
@Bob In Portland:
I thought the one of opouid induced constipation was a new high in bizarre. Last years “but I died” still holds the record but there are plenty of contenders this year
249.
Betty Cracker
Unbelievably sloppy game. Cute ketchup commercial with the weiner dogs.
Ginn, Jr. cannot run around like that on punt returns. He’s done it twice and both times Carolina has had a block in the back trying to get an opening for him.
255.
Betty Cracker
Singing sheep!
256.
Heliopause
At this point Denver’s punter is the MVP.
257.
Schlemazel (parmesan rancor)
@Baud:
Well the turnovers can be credited to the D. The penalties probably are coming from extra bennies they took because it is the superb owl
Still lots of time to go, but I guess if the Broncos win Peyton get’s game MVP. So far it looks like the defense is most deserving though. My opinion only!
Still lots of time to go, but I guess if the Broncos win Peyton get’s game MVP. So far it looks like the defense is most deserving though. My opinion only!
Peyton should not have gotten the MVP, when Indy won. The running back won the the game for Indy.
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Elie
I wonder if Cam is going to wear that Versace leopard suit on the bus going home?
Next time, Cam, spend the week getting your head as well as your body ready and leave the suits at home.
I’m thinking that if the game continues as it’s been played, it will go to a couple of players from Denver’s defensive front seven. There’s precedence for that- Super Bowl XII, when Danny White and Harvey Martin were co-MVPs.
@Temporarily Max McGee (Soon Enough to Be Andy K Again): I agree that they are the most deserving, but this is probably Peyton’s last game and they will give it to him for that and sentimental reasons. Hope I’m wrong. Got to give credit where credit is due!
@Schlemazel (parmesan rancor):
No, I take back my earlier defense of these teams, this is not a well played game & it is a shame one of them has to win.
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John Revolta
@geg6: God, now that I’m thinking about it (thanks a lot BTW) I’m pretty sure that they played at my high school and we all had to go get uplifted. Damn, I bet somebody made a shitload of money off of that racket.
@mark: Peyton is not leaving this game til he’s bagged and tagged on the field. He will be lucky to be able to walk in a few years.
290.
Mike J
@Betty Cracker:
Most Turnovers, Game
9 Buffalo vs. Dallas, XXVII
8 Denver vs. Dallas, XII
7 Baltimore vs. Dallas, V
Most Turnovers, Both Teams, Game
11 Baltimore (7) vs. Dallas (4), V Buffalo (9) vs. Dallas (2), XXVII
10 Denver (8) vs. Dallas (2), XII
8 New England (6) vs. Chicago (2), XX
Chicago (5) vs. Indianapolis (3), XLI
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Temporarily Max McGee (Soon Enough to Be Andy K Again)
But he’s had a shit game, and not even Nantz and Simms can get away with naming him the MVP. If he was having a decent game, then maybe, but…
BTW: RANDY White, not Danny.
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geg6
OT, I’m reading “Dearie” by Bob Spitz, a biography of Julia Child. I did not know this, but her dad was, I am inferring from the descriptions in the book, a John Bircher. I knew she was from a wealthy California family but not that he was involved in Chinatown-type water schemes, anti-communist and anti-French conspiracy theories and far right wing circles like the Grove attendees and such. Crazy, since she was quite the liberal herself.
I am thinking that the panthers are getting screwed. That was a good catch early in the game that they challenged & lost. Thar last thing was pass interference, not even close. There have been a couple others that went against the panthers, I have not noticed the same for Denver. Since I don’t care who wins I don’t think I am biased on this.
Their job is to take it out of the hands of the referees by executing. This should not have been close, but there it is. Referees always fuck you up.
300.
GregB
Signs of Kasichmentum in N.H. He has moved into 3rd place behind Rubio and Trump.
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Schlemazel (parmesan rancor)
@geg6:
I read her book, she had a lot of issues with her dads politics & he hated hers and her husband as well. She rejected the wealth of her upbringing to make her own way & it expanded her view
Its fun watching famous people in expensive advertisements wearing the exact same boots that I wore when I was pumping gas for minimum wage in 1980.
303.
lol chikinburd
@Elizabelle: Surviving, thanks for asking. Getting things done that need to get done. Too busy being busy to be too sad, though I know that eventually will change. That’s life, though.
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Temporarily Max McGee (Soon Enough to Be Andy K Again)
It happens to every team, all season long. Imagine how many teams got screwed before there was instant replay, or before there was even television. A couple of plays over the course of the game are something a good team overcomes.
Except for that fucking Fail Mary play in Seattle a few years ago…
305.
Baud
Big drive for Carolina coming up.
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Schlemazel (parmesan rancor)
@Elie:
I understand that they get stuff wrong but when it mostly goes one way it stinks. Perhaps NC would not be doing so badly had that catch been ruled a catch, certainly the interference call made a huge difference. There have been a couple other drive killers that were questionable. Neither team is covering itself in glory but one does seem to be getting help in that department.
Denver going to run the clock. All the timeouts left.
321.
Schlemazel (parmesan rancor)
@Betty Cracker:
She and my mom had a lot in common, both learned how to cook with trial and error and really dug into food preparation to get it right. JC had a fabulous opportunity and really made the most out of it. My mom was pregnant when she graduated high school, married later that month & had 5 kids in 5 years so the opportunities did not appear. She did have a successful catering business eventually but I always wonder how much further she could have gone. I also wish she could have met JC, I bet they would have had a great time talking food.
Then again, with a defense like Denver’s, maybe they do deserve it.
332.
Omnes Omnibus
Von Miller as MVP?
333.
Jay C
Three thoughts this SB:
1. IIJM, or this a mediocre football game?
2. IIJM. or this a abnormally penalty-laden game? ISTM that there’s a flag on every fourth or fifth play..
3. Jeep wins the Ad Bowl? Really cool ads…..
@Betty Cracker:
Oh yeah, I grew up as her 3rd – did all the peeling & chopping, all the grunt work. I love to cook. My kids all do too. Unfortunately our daughter took it a little too seriously & is a professional cook. It is a shitty way to make a living but she bought that bullshit about doing what you love. She has worked in some very very high end places but is treated like dirt.
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Baud
It’s over.
339.
hilts
YES!!
340.
Elie
I really wanted the Panthers to win this. I am so disappointed for them and so hoped that they would be more ready for this…Oh well…
I have learned that you cannot assume that you will get another chance. You have to prepare and stay focused. Nothing is given — only earned.
341.
Wag
Awesome! Now with a Denver offense TD I feel better
342.
Honus
@Temporarily Max McGee (Soon Enough to Be Andy K Again): Chuck Howley (from Wheeling, W Va) was an outside linebacker for the Cowboys and was MVP of Super Bowl V. Still the only Super Bowl MVP from a losing team. (The Cowboys lost 16-13 to the colts)
343.
A Ghost To Most
Defense wins championships.
344.
Schlemazel (parmesan rancor)
@Wag:
yeah, they needed what, 7 yards? That fixes everything
replay shows, it was not a pass so it was a fumble
Good game and a good end to a good season. For the most part the game was played clean and the officiating was pretty good. No complaints here other than it wasn’t the Seahawks winning it all.
364.
Peale
@Elie: yep. Cam should ask Dan Marino, Dan Fouts and Warren Moon about how frequently these chances come around. Kudos to the Denver Defense for revealing his weaknesses.
365.
mark
Peyton’s backup coming into the game. How dramatic?
366.
Baud
One last punt for the MVP punter.
367.
cckids
@mark: Gotta disagree about the “good game” part. It was a messy, error-filled, kinda boring game. Both of the conference championship games were miles better.
368.
Baud
Haha. Ten second runoff. Fitting for this game.
369.
mark
@cckids: I understand where your coming from, but I do enjoy a good defensive game from time to time. This was one of those times in my opinion.
370.
Wag
There is is!
371.
mark
Feel bad for the Panther players. I’d cry too. So close yet so far away.
372.
Betty Cracker
Congrats to Broncos fans.
373.
Steeplejack (phone)
That Papa John fucker just rooted in for a hug with Manning on the field right after time expired. What a starfucking douche.
374.
Baud
Turnover bowl is officially in the books.
375.
Cacti
To be fair to Cam, it was total team choke on offense for Carolina.
Lots of catch-able balls dropped by receivers, bad turnovers, and Ron Rivera not having his team mentally prepared to play.
The defense did about all you could ask from them.
About the only other with a credible case is the kicker.
380.
mark
@Steeplejack (phone): I’ve got to agree on that one. The Papa John asshole shouldn’t be allowed anywhere near the game. The guy makes my skin crawl!
381.
Omnes Omnibus
@Steeplejack (phone): There is a new Bletchley Circle episode starting in 30 minutes on my PBS station.
382.
ThresherK
@mark: After debacles in some of the higher-echelon bowl games, and NFL playoffs, I’m just relieved that an officiating screwup didn’t really play a part here.
383.
David Koch
After 40 seasons in professional football and at age 68, Wade Phillips wins his first Super Bowl
This was Wade Phillips’s and Von Miller’s Super Bowl.
Congrats, Broncos fans. Now go make some Superbowl babies.
Gotta say, found that particular ad campaign a little creepy too.
396.
Baud
@Cacti: I don’t know. The Fatherland does need more soldiers.
397.
Heliopause
1. Regarding that dropped/not dropped pass early on, stop complaining. Fact is, the ball was moving in his grasp, it might have touched the ground while doing so, that’s why the call wasn’t overturned. Mike Carey has botched several of these in games I’ve watched and Phil Simms is obviously an idiot, so don’t listen to them. Just stop bitching.
2. MVP? I was half kidding earlier when I suggested Colquitt, but he legitimately was probably the runner up. Von Miller for sure.
3. Let’s talk about Cam. It is absolutely true that he was subjected to an awful lot of thinly veiled racist bullshit in recent weeks, but at the same time we have to be honest. He isn’t even the 12th best QB in the league much less the best. Carolina rode an excellent defense, good run game, and clownishly easy schedule to this point. That’s just the way it is. The Panthers finally faced a top tier team that was on its game and on a neutral field. If they want to win a SB they’ll have to develop a less gimmicky pass attack.
4. Peyton’s body is obviously shot and a Trent Dilfer-Ryan Leaf hybrid probably could have won this game today. That is to say he didn’t strictly deserve to end his career on this note but oh well.
In 2013 more newborns arrived in August than in any other month. The second, third, and fourth most popular birthday months were July, October, and September, in that order.
Since most births happen in August, if there’s any correlation to sports it would be the World Series.
401.
jonas
@Cacti: Well, if he had to pay his employees shit, he couldn’t afford the mega-mansion. Duh.
402.
joeyess
Wish I had read this post prior to the game. Taking into account Cracker’s track record, I would have bet the other way.
In a heartbeat.
403.
Geeno
I told everyone I knew IRL to take the points, the Denver D wasn’t going to let the Broncos get crushed. They did even better than I thought they would and held Carolina out of the game.
As the old adage goes, “Offense sells tickets; defense wins championships”.
404.
mark
Von Miller is the MVP. Glad I was wrong!
405.
Mai.naem.mobile
Don’t give a crap about the game. I’m just waiting for Colbert. The Budweiser product placement by Manning is kinda douchey.
406.
Temporarily Max McGee (Soon Enough to Be Andy K Again)
Since most births happen in August, if there’s any correlation to sports it would be the World Series.
And college homecoming weekends, and the long Thanksgiving weekend.
407.
Cacti
Is Manning the first Super Bowl winner in history to name check Budweiser before God?
408.
Mike J
Jennifer Bendery @jbendery 2h2 hours ago
Let’s dispel with this fiction that Beyonce doesn’t know what she’s doing. She knows exactly what she’s doing.
409.
Temporarily Max McGee (Soon Enough to Be Andy K Again)
This was a really shit game. ruemara about 3/4 sober. still can’t focus.
412.
Omnes Omnibus
@cckids: OTOH he thanked God for the opportunity not the win.
413.
Soylent Green
I’ve been a Broncos fan for 35 years, so am enjoying this win. Almost every one of our wins this season was close enough to lose, and were achieved by the defense.
Most of us want Manning to hang it up — we are ready for the next guy. And I wish he would get off my TV. I keep thinking, dammit Peyton how much money do you need?
Peyton’s body is obviously shot and a Trent Dilfer-Ryan Leaf hybrid probably could have won this game today
Ouch!
418.
I'mNotSureWhoIWantToBeYet
I haven’t read all the comments.
Has anyone speculated about whether NC was paid to lose? There was the “record punt return” where the NC guy had the Denver receiver in his arms and suddenly drew back as if the guy with the ball had called “fair catch”. There was Cam backing away from the ball after it was stripped from his hand. I wouldn’t be surprised if there were others…
Elie here called it very early. You folks should listen to her. ;-)
Maybe it was nerves. But it looked, as usual, that too many mistakes were made in the officiating and too many mistakes were made that couldn’t easily be explained by just nerves…
(I didn’t watch most of it. Seeing #21 nearly rip the head off the NC guy and just get a facemask personal foul and a 1 yard penalty was the perfect illustration to me that NFL football isn’t a sport. It’s a violent money-grubbing monopoly designed to grind up men, break their bodies, and kill them early, just to extract more money out of Americans (and increasingly other people around the world).)
FWIW.
Cheers,
Scott.
419.
David Koch
Donald J. Trump @realDonaldTrump 2h2 hours ago
So far the Super Bowl is very boring – not nearly as exciting as politics – MAKE AMERICA GREAT AGAIN!
13,284 retweets 21,097 likes
Man, he obviously did not get enough attention as a kid.
Also hilarious coming from the loser who killed the USFL. America craves football in all it’s forms (pro, college, high school). Owning a football franchise is a license to print money. Yet Trump is such a dumbshit he found a way to kill an entire league.
Has anyone speculated about whether NC was paid to lose? There was the “record punt return” where the NC guy had the Denver receiver in his arms and suddenly drew back as if the guy with the ball had called “fair catch”. There was Cam backing away from the ball after it was stripped from his hand. I wouldn’t be surprised if there were others…
The punt return sequence just seemed like a brain fart after the Carolina players had interfered with the returner and were expecting a flag (but didn’t get one for some reason).
Newton not trying to frantically dive on that fumble was just plain strange.
Trump is such a dumbshit he found a way to kill an entire league.
Also couldn’t make money on a gambling casino.
Are there two things Americans love more than gambling and football? Trump couldn’t make a buck at either of them.
424.
Wyliecoat
@schrodinger’s cat: for a few days the mobile site was working well, now the text is back to microscopic size and needs to be zoomed in to
425.
Wag
I think that the best way to think about this game is to recognize that a multiracial defense worked together to overpower a multiracial offense and a great lily white band shared the stage with a pair of amazing black performers on a wild ass flower of a stage.
In other words, if you can look beyond my bronco’s GOP loving, over the hill QB and stupid racist remarks made about the Panther’s black QB, this game reflected a new American ideal in sports and entertainment.
426.
Mike J
Marshawn Lynch tweets that he’s hanging up his cleats.
Newton not trying to frantically dive on that fumble was just plain strange.
I bet it is drilled and drilled into quarterbacks to NOT get involved in fumble scrums.
I was not surprised.
428.
J R in WV
@geg6: Julia Child was with the OSS during WW II… which is a lot like being with the CIA, except the CIA hasn’t ever had to deal with the SS, or even a real war.
I bet it is drilled and drilled into quarterbacks to NOT get involved in fumble scrums.
Cam played like a professional quarterback whose first duty is to not get hurt. During the season when he ran he would stand up and take hits until he was brought down. Tonight he slid after he got the yards to avoid the tackle.
That’s not a knock on him. That’s smart play for somebody that wants a career.
430.
NotMax
Moderately interesting – over 400 comments and not word one about the inflation or deflation pressure of footballs.
Richard Mayhew
Hyundai commercial was creepy patriarchy reinforcing
chopper
@Richard Mayhew:
I know. I had to make sure my daughter saw my eyes rolled as hard as they did.
Wag
Broncos are rolling so far!
Mike in NC
Best National Anthem was by Leslie Nielsen in “The Naked Gun”.
chopper
@Wag:
dang they’re crushin it so far.
Wag
@Richard Mayhew:
True. But the other Hyundai ad before the coin toss with the kid with a car engine heart was awesome.
Wag
On the board!
aangus
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uvAZjefHoiQ
Wag
@aangus:
Nice one!
redshirt
Any Marvel fans here?
Did you see the ad for Civil War?
I’m legitimately more excited for this movie then any other I’ve been maybe since 1999 and TPM. But maybe I have horrible taste too.
Mr Stagger Lee
Since I don’t have cable I am streaming from Sky-sports though later I am going to a French stream for laughs and giggles. Disappointed there is no Serbian or Chinese feeds.
Betty Cracker
Bad Doritos commercial.
Geoduck
I’m rooting for the Panthers, since they beat my team (Seattle), but it’s nice to see that Denver’s making a game of it this time around.
TallPete
Phil Simms – worst color commentator. Ever.
chopper
I think they’re contractually required to bring up the halftime show every 30 goddamn seconds.
Betty Cracker
What is the worst halftime show y’all can remember? The Black-Eyed Peas stunk it up pretty bad. But surely there were worse!
chopper
@Betty Cracker:
two words. Elvis Presto.
eclare
@Betty Cracker: And they spend $5M on that crap. Horrible ad.
gene108
@redshirt:
Missed the promo, but I’ve run across the story line in the comics a bit here and there.
I wonder how they will tie it into Agents of Shield, like they did with the Winter Soldier line, and how it will impact the Avengers Infinity War storyline they are setting up.
Peale
No to puppymokeybaby
Richard Mayhew
Catch imo
Phylllis
Seriously, wtf was that Mountain Dew thing?
cmorenc
On average. the Super Bowl is a tight competitive game about a third of the time, just sorta ok game won decisively but not overwhelmingly that wouldn’t be anything special during regular season about a third of the time, and a Stupor Bowl blowout about a third of the time.
If you’re expecting a link to actual detailed stats to back up this assertion, it would jump into the first three letters of my “assertion”.
Betty Cracker
Bullshit call.
gene108
Panthers got screwed on the replay / challenge
Peale
Disney appears to be going for baroque with the Jungle Book 3d
The Other Chuck
Wow, bad call on the replay. I want Denver to win, but not that way.
Tissue Thin Pseudonym
This is why I want to completely nuke instant replay in all sports. It’s a time suck that kills the natural rhythm of the game, and in the end, it still leaves us with the wrong call. Just kill it.
Onkel Fritze
@Betty Cracker: Agree.
Wag
Holy shit! Amazing!
James E Powell
@Betty Cracker:
The Who
Baud
A turn of events.
Baud
@Betty Cracker: KISS
The Other Chuck
@Tissue Thin Pseudonym: Instant replay has worked pretty well for tennis, and in fact speeds the game up. But it’s a simpler game, admittedly.
Baud
The Baud! 2016! Superbowl ad will be awesome!
I couldn’t afford to air the ad during the game, of course. But it will briefly appear on select dark web sites sometime in the next couple of hours.
BruceFromOhio
OK, PayPal, I get it.
Denver D makes a capital-S STATEMENT. C’mon, Carolina, take a breath and get your shit together. Please.
Mary G
I am not watching. The only thing I am curious about is the Shrub’s ad for the pathetic dweeb.
Mr Stagger Lee
@BruceFromOhio: They learned ffrom that @ss-whipping the Seahawks gave them, defenses win championships.
gene108
Cam’s hyped up. Overthrowing receivers.
Baud
Damn, Broncos D.
The Sailor
Broncos came to play.
Baud
@gene108: Yep. Seems that way.
The Dangerman
No, Carolina, Coldplay is the halftime show.
Weak, so far, fellas…..
MobiusKlein
fix is in
Baud
Stupid D play.
TallPete
Tailb taunting. Big surprise from the eye-poker.
Betty Cracker
Aqib Talib is a moron.
Tissue Thin Pseudonym
@The Other Chuck: There’s also a very strange epistemology at work in instant replay systems and the requirement that the call can only be overturned if the evidence is absolutely conclusive. (We can debate whether or not officials actually follow this standard, but it is the standard.) This privileging of the live call, even when made from a bad angle or when the action happened too quickly for the human eye, makes no sense. If the replay indicates that the call was most likely wrong, it stands.
I think that’s what happened here. The call was almost certainly wrong, but there’s just enough doubt that they couldn’t remove the “almost” from that evaluation, and so the call stands even though there was no way the on-field official could possibly know whether it hit the ground or not.
Mike J
There won’t be any kids playing commie soccer when they should be worshiping the NFL.
cmorenc
@Tissue Thin Pseudonym:
That’s one of the great virtues of soccer officiating – NO instant replays, players have to take the judgment calls (and no-calls) of the referee crew, whether right or wrong, or be prepared to get caught flat-footed by a quick restart if they try to argue. I do, however think the use of goal-line technology to assist in determining whether a ball completely crossed over the line for a goal is a good exception – the assistant referees, whose job includes making that call, have an inherent conflict with their other duty to stay with the second to last defender to judge offside, usually ten or more yards upfield from the goal line.
cckids
@Betty Cracker:
Agreed. What is is with Doritos? For a supposed “food” product, their ads are regularly retch-inducing.
Heliopause
Got a bit of a bad feeling for the Panthers right now. Not just that they’re down by ten already but that this is the first time in four months that they’ve played a game that was both (1) away from home and (2) against a non-joke team.
jl
Not watching. I’m going to go over to a party and eat junk food, though. Waited until after the game started to get my Superb Owl food, since too damn crowded before.
Which reminds me that I saw several chicken pix on internet and one in the store giving stats on the horrifying chicken genocide for their wings. The stats don’t match each other. And some suggest that chickens have far more than two wings. I don’t get it.
But most important, BC’s chickens look far crankier than other chickens.
Those are my deep Super Bowl thoughts for today.
Baud
Nice play.
The Sailor
The announcers are terrible … almost as bad as the refs.
Betty Cracker
@cckids: Bad ad award so far goes to that puppy-monkey-baby abomination, though. Nightmare inducing!
Baud
@Betty Cracker: Did I miss the Jeb ad?
redshirt
@Tissue Thin Pseudonym: I agree. Instant replay in the NFL is a disaster. It needs to be fundamentally changed. I recommend removing all automatic reviews and instead giving each coach 2 challenges per half. Those are the only reviewed plays.
This works for me because theoretically it eliminates the worst calls – if a ref really botches a big play, replay can help overturn the bad call.
And it won’t effect gameplay except for the 4 times it’s used per game.
Peale
@Tissue Thin Pseudonym: what the shouod do is eliminate the referees and install 10,000 cameras.
Ben Cisco (onboard the Defiant)
Who keeps breathing into the fracking microphone?
TallPete
@redshirt: replay works fine. The NFL needs to simplify the catch rule. That’s 90% of the replays.
MobiusKlein
@Mike J: It’s a nice soccer pitch. (well, 4 pitches), but it’s literally in the shadows of Levi stadium.
At some point, somebody will decide on how much $$$ it takes to get a new field setup elsewhere, and turn that lot into parking.
SiubhanDuinne, Annoying Scoundrel
O/T, trying to send an email to Anne Laurie and Betty Cracker. How exactly am I supposed to do that? I go to Contact/Select an Author and click on the names I want, but nothing happens. I feel as though I’ve mentioned this before. Don’t know whether it’s a glitch of the BJ redesign or something else, but it’s annoying as all fuck.
Betty Cracker
@Baud: Haven’t seen it yet.
Betty Cracker
@SiubhanDuinne, Annoying Scoundrel: Don’t know what the trouble is with the drop-down, but my address is bettycrackerfl-at-gmail-dot-com.
Jim, Foolish Literalist
Baud
Panthers settling down.
BruceFromOhio
This is some tight playing, intense hand egg. Denver D is going to be the story of this game.
GO PANTHERS.
ETA BOOYAH MTHRFCKRS
TallPete
Takib should be ejected before he injures someone. NFL needs a two personal fouls and your out rule.
Tissue Thin Pseudonym
Well, why not commit a blatant face mask when it’s a one yard penalty?
Ben Cisco (onboard the Defiant)
GAME ON!
Baud
@Tissue Thin Pseudonym: Yep. Saved the touchdown.
lol chikinburd
My Twitter timeline suggests America is losing its collective mind, vomiting nightmare images of babies like pea soup out of Linda Blair. That’s nice I guess. It’s all puppies and kittens here tonight, and then an unexpected early bedtime because apparently we’re showing the house tomorrow morning. (Getting the ground level photo-worthy and showing-worthy after how messy it was required a Herculean two-week effort the completion of which still seems damn near miraculous.)
chopper
Jesus, talib.
Mr. Twister
@TallPete: That last play should have resulted in an ejection.
SiubhanDuinne, Annoying Scoundrel
@Betty Cracker:
Thanks.
Betty Cracker
@TallPete: Agreed. He’s a piece of shit in general. Used to play in Tampa and was always doing something stupid and dangerous on and off the field.
gene108
The NSX is coming back….cool…wish I could afford it…
Richard Mayhew
@TallPete: yep, somehow personal fouls need to accumulate as F u fouls inside the 5 are too cheap given the punishment esp. In elimination games
TallPete
Thumbs up on the bud light ad
max
@Mr. Twister: That last play should have resulted in an ejection.
Second! That was a nasty nasty fucking play.
max
[‘He coulda killed that guy doing that.’]
redshirt
Let’s go Panthers!
I’m calling a Manning INT in this half.
Mingobat f/k/a Karen in GA
Is Steven Tyler broke? Because if not, then why…?
schrodinger's cat
How is the site working for everyone? It takes forever to load for me and doesn’t refresh when you hit the refresh button.
Not watching, I don’t get football.
cckids
@Betty Cracker: I agree. But we are not the demographic they are reaching for – my son’s roommate (22 years old), thinks it’s a hoot.
Mingobat f/k/a Karen in GA
Also too: Super Bowl + Weight Watchers = sad Mingobat. I want snacks.
Mike J
@Mr. Twister:
Without an ejection, there is literally nothing you can;t do to stop somebody on the 1 yard line. You could pull out a gun and murder the ball carrier and it will still be half the distance to the goal line.
WaterGirl
@SiubhanDuinne, Annoying Scoundrel: Yeah, it doesn’t work like it did before the site “upgrade”.
You can only select one name at a time, and then you have to click the unobtrusive “send email” button that is below the dropdown list. Did you get that far? Or does it seem to do nothing before you get to that point?
For me, if I select Anne Laurie and the hit the “send email” button, it opens my email program and puts her address in the TO: field of a new email message. If you want to send email to both Anne Laurie and Betty Cracker, you will have to do that once for each of them and then copy/paste the second email address into the other email that was automatically created. Does that make sense?
Ben Cisco (onboard the Defiant)
Zebras get one right.
gogol's wife
“Hello, everybody. This is Mrs. Norman Maine.”
Wait, what? There’s a football game? Carry on.
Heliopause
Giving up your last challenge for the sake of seven yards in the second quarter is probably not good strategery.
WaterGirl
@schrodinger’s cat: It’s working like crap for me. :-( The fan on my laptop comes on almost constantly now and even with 8 GB of memory it fills up in a heartbeat. Safari now behaves for me like it did before I installed the ad blocker, ClicktoFlash and Ghostery years ago. Very frustrating.
ruemara
I’m still confused about why the Super Bowl is in Santa Clara but no one from CA is in it. Isn’t it like hosted by one of the teams playing? It seems weird.
Josie
@SiubhanDuinne, Annoying Scoundrel: I’m on a Mac using Firefox.
Below the author names is a button that says “send email” after I click on a name. Maybe it’s a glitch in the mobile edition or your browser?
Baud
Oh wow.
gene108
Special teams brain fart by Carolina.
BruceFromOhio
Holy cow glad I got nothing else going on tonight, these cats are kicking it.
C’mon Panthers.
geg6
@Betty Cracker:
Up With People. But you’re probably too young for that.
Betty Cracker
@schrodinger’s cat: Are you on an Apple product? It works great for me on my Windoze laptop, but it’s glitchy again on the iPhone and iPad. For awhile, it wasn’t, then it was again.
Mr Stagger Lee
Oh that is an expensive hold.
Onkel Fritze
@ruemara: No, it never is. Next year they’ll play in Houston.
Elizabelle
Hi all. I don’t got a dog in this Superb Owl fight, although I have been to Denver, and they use my high school colors. Someone told me the Panthers are from Charlotte. That’s fighting words to someone from Virginia. That’s where all our banks (and bank jobs) done gone.
Who is rooting for whom?
And — OT — Betty C mentioned she’d been reading the Rolling Stone issue on David Bowie. Have you guys seen it on newstands? I have been looking, and have yet to encounter it in the wild. There was the Leo DiCaprio cover, and I see the Rolling Stone special issue re the 1990s with Kurt Cobain in a suit.
But have yet to see the Bowie issue, and would like it …
lol chikinburd
Oh, and Puppy Bowl XII’s halftime show was oddly satisfying, particularly if you can imagine all the rent-inflating techies getting eaten. (It’s coming up on the hour.)
SiubhanDuinne, Annoying Scoundrel
@WaterGirl:
Thank you so much. It does make sense now that you’ve explained it. I am ashamed to say that I never noticed the “Send email” button, but now that I know about it I guess I’m good. (Used to be that I would click on a FrontPager’s email address and it would take me to a shiny new “compose email” with the “To” field already populated.)
Anyhow, I ended up sending not one, not two, but (inadvertently) three or four emails to BC, so I hope at some point she will reward my tenacity and share the awesome photo I sent her.
GregB
@Mike in NC:
That’s not Enrico Palazzo!
BruceFromOhio
CMON CAROLINA WTF
@geg6: Gaia help us all, I knew a guy who was in that.
Baud
Turnovers.
Mike J
@lol chikinburd: Fuck those people for wanting shelter. It must be the fault of the techies, not the landlords.
Elizabelle
@lol chikinburd: How are you doing? Think of you often. Losing the mom is hard.
Omnes Omnibus
@schrodinger’s cat: I currently need to manually stop the reload then hit reload again for it to work.
geg6
@ruemara:
Super Bowl venues are chosen a couple of years in advance, so no one knows what teams will play. They are generally held in warm weather cities or ones with domed stadiums. That has changed a bit after having one at Giants stadium and word is they will be having more cold weather Super Bowls. I am wholeheartedly in raver of that. Football should be played in actual weather, not these sterile atmospheres.
Mr Stagger Lee
@ruemara: The sites are chosen in advance, usually the NFL likes Miami, or New Orleans sometimes in warm weather sites, but tey seem to expand to other places like New York a couple years ago or Detroit. Dallas(Irving) will be popular because it is a big stadium, and I guess the new LA stadium in Inglewood, will be popular SB site.
The Dangerman
Denver wants to give the game to Carolina but they won’t take it.
Sloppy across the board (Carolina, Denver, Refs, Phil Simms, Lady Gaga).
GregB
There is a special half-time guest.
Show tunes with Senator Ted Cruz.
Elizabelle
@Baud:
I will take cherry, please. And lemon.
Omnes Omnibus
@geg6: I think it should be in the home stadium of the previous year’s winner.
Major Major Major Major
Tamara’s chili recipe is awesome
Tissue Thin Pseudonym
I’m looking for book review blogs that are interested in reviewing Becoming Phoebe. I will be happy to send a review copy in just about any form other than audiobook to anyone with an established review blog. So, if you have such a blog, or know someone who does, please contact me.
Baud
Hell of a run.
Elie
@Baud:
Aint that the truth. I think also a little “over confidence” on the part of the Panthers who have had their way with the last two opponents and maybe didn’t bring the same energy. They got off slow. Of course, that is why you have to play the game — not just talk it. I’m not a big Broncos fan but being a football fan of both the Chicago Bears and Seahawks, I know all about woulda-coulda.
WaterGirl
@SiubhanDuinne, Annoying Scoundrel: You are not alone. For me, it was the similarly unobtrusive “Post Comment” button on the iPad that got me. I was looking and looking for something that would allow me to post my comment.
Leave a reply! Join the discussion! Feel Free to contribute. All huge. :: ssh: post comment :: ssh, don’t tell anybody. :-)
PurpleGirl
@schrodinger’s cat: Not having any problems at this time with refreshing the thread. I’ve also been moving between FireFox and Chrome (for kittens cams).
Baud
Turnovers.
.
redshirt
Called it.
BruceFromOhio
Turnovers?
@Baud: Apparently, yes.
ETA: CAROLINA OFFENSE, HELLO
WaterGirl
@geg6: I was trying to figure out why the stadiums are “doomed” and then I realized the word was “domed”. Made it more interesting that way, but still “duh” on my part.
Heliopause
I was going to say that this is a good defensive game between two good defensive teams but in fact there is an awful lot of sloppy play out there.
Baud
@Heliopause: Yep.
Temporarily Max McGee (Soon Enough to Be Andy K Again)
@The Dangerman:
Still not as bad as Super Bowl V, or any of the over-by-halftime games, though.
Baud
Someone has to win this game, but so far no one deserves to.
Kind of like the GOP primary.
BruceFromOhio
Newton and his receiver corp are out of synch and rattled.
@Heliopause: Yep
Mr Stagger Lee
I am streaming and watching the game vis Sky Sports, how is the quality of the SB commercials?
Baud
Punters are playing well.
gene108
@BruceFromOhio:
Problem was Newton in the beginning. He was overthrowing wide open receivers.
Elie
Wade Phillips is an old defensive cowpoke… son of Buddy Ryan of Chicago Bears superbowl champions and Lord of the ’46 defense. Wade understands defense is primarily physical domination and speed because that gets into the opponents head. I thought that the Panthers were faster but it doesn’t look like that was correct. The only break that the Panthers have is that Manning has his feet in two cement buckets. If he could move, they would be dead ducks teemed with that Bronco defense.
redshirt
@Baud: This game would have been so much better with the Pats.
schrodinger's cat
@Betty Cracker: Its bad on my Dell laptop using Windows7 and Firefox. So so on the iPad and the best on my Android phone.
BruceFromOhio
I thought this was going to be a peep-show Superb Owl.
I guess I need more quarters.
NotMax
@GregB
Belting out this?
The Dangerman
Is it too late to suit up Trent Dilfer so we can get some good SB QB play?
gwangung
Well, if Newton settles down, Denver might be in trouble…
John Revolta
@geg6: I remember way back in the wayback when “Up With People” used to do the halftime every year. We would mock them mercilessly but then there was one year I had to eat my mocks when they actually impressed me with some kinda big finish. Although there might have been chemical enhancements involved.
Temporarily Max McGee (Soon Enough to Be Andy K Again)
@Baud:
When Baud is elected President, the only legal fantasy football teams will be those that base scores on the stats of punters and offensive linemen.
Betty Cracker
@schrodinger’s cat: It works well with Chrome on my Win7 Samsung laptop. Sucks on both Chrome and Safari on my iStuff.
Baud
@Temporarily Max McGee (Soon Enough to Be Andy K Again): And special team blockers, of course.
NotMax
@Temporarily Max McGee (Soon Enough to Be Andy K Again)
Baud will bring in real fantasy football. Orcs and vampires and werewolves, oh my.
Baud 2016! Your fantasy is his wish.
redshirt
@Baud: Don’t forget Gunners.
debbie
@Tissue Thin Pseudonym:
This blog reviews all kinds of books. She’s a very thoughtful, non-bitter kind of critic. Read through her reviews and see what you think.
http://thelongestchapter.com/
Origuy
The amount of preparation for this shindig couldn’t possibly happen in two weeks–I’m not sure it could be done in a year. They rerouted the mass transit system, fixed potholes in the freeway leading to the stadium, created this huge “NFL Experience” thing up at Moscone Center in SF. I got stopped by a police escort yesterday taking the Panthers team buses to practice. It’s just crazy.
Elie
Cam is exhausted. He was not ready for a real physical/mental challenge and it shows. Too much focus on his clothing rather than staying focused on what he needs to do. He was not ready. Period
SiubhanDuinne, Annoying Scoundrel
@WaterGirl:
It is still too unobtrusive for my taste, but I’ve learned to find it.
BruceFromOhio
@Elie: I think the Denver defensive line had some input on that. Whacka-a-doolie, it’s a real game instead of the blowout I thought it was going to be.
GO PANTHERS
Onkel Fritze
7 – 13 is still a one-score game. The Panthers need to get a grip on their nerves and things might go very different in the 2nd half. Or not.
Cacti
Reasonably good defensive game, lots of sloppy offensive mistakes.
Talib should have been ejected for that face mask penalty.
Elie
@Elie:
My bad — Wade Phillips is Bum Phillips son — not Buddy Ryan. Looks like he definitely knew how to prepare for this and I stand by my assessment of Cam and time spent picking outfits instead of getting mentally ready.
The Dangerman
@BruceFromOhio:
I had it as a Carolina blowout, too, but Defense can still win games (and, going back to my last comment, has there been a worse SB winning QB than Dilfer?)
I think Newton will settle down, and Carolina wins this game, but it will be close.
Temporarily Max McGee (Soon Enough to Be Andy K Again)
@NotMax:
I’m down for that as long as it allows for wild mage p.c.’s.
Elie
@BruceFromOhio:
Oh yeah… agree and hope we have a good game in the second half. Cam is virtually panting with exhaustion.
Cacti
@ruemara:
Super Bowl is played in host cities. Usually based on mild winter weather or having a climate controlled domed stadium for cold weather cities. If the team of the host city made it to the game, it would be a coincidence and has never happened to my knowledge.
I’ve always found this a little odd given that American football hangs its hat on being played in all types of weather conditions.
ihop
sobotkas! 3 of them!
The Other Chuck
@Cacti: The Super Bowl is first and foremost a business. Asses in seats makes more money when there’s more seats. More money spent all around when it’s in a major city.
Cacti
Also think that the Denver offense is going to have to put together some kind of touchdown drive for a win. Denver’s defense was lights out in the first half, but it’s still just a 6-point game.
Felonius Monk
@Elie:
Son of Bum Phillips. not Buddy Ryan. Rex Ryan and Rob Ryan are Buddy’s sons.
ETA: But I see you already corrected. Sorry.
The Dangerman
@Cacti:
LA Rams and Pasadena.
Cacti
@The Other Chuck:
I get why they do it. Just have never liked the idea that weather should be a factor in every game except the biggest one.
But yeah, the people spending $2-grand for nosebleed seats are going to have a better time in a place that’s 70 degrees in February vs. 10 below.
Temporarily Max McGee (Soon Enough to Be Andy K Again)
@The Dangerman:
The Niners at Stanford Stadium, too, against the Dolphins.
redshirt
Denver’s offense can’t do anything. The best they can hope is not commit a TO 6.
Steeplejack (phone)
@James E Powell:
They really did suck. Surprisingly so, even for an old has-been band just coasting.
Just checking in from chaotic viewing party.
Cacti
@Temporarily Max McGee (Soon Enough to Be Andy K Again):
I stand corrected.
gene108
On “suggestions” of people on this thread, I am watching the Up With People half-time shows. They are not that different than modern half time shows. A band and a bunch of people dancing on the field, probably screwing the turf for players like today, but fewer fire works.
The Dangerman
Can we consciously uncouple from this Halftime Show?
Peale
Didn’t Bruno Mars do uptown funk last year or the year before?
Cacti
@gene108:
My personal favorite crap halftime show was singer/magician/Elvis impersonator, Elvis Presto in Super Bowl XXIII.
Mike J
Coldplay go for a curry every weekend, hence the Indian themed set dressing.
The Pale Scot
Bruno Mars costumes are a disaster, where’s the cool retro threads?
Oh, I see. They’re not allowed to look better than Beyonce.
Schlemazel (parmesan rancor)
I had never heard a Coldplay song before, I feel like I lost something tonight that I can never get back. I thought Bruno Mars was a singer not yet another boy group. Beyonce did show us her one talent when she bent over & shook it. Now you kids get off my damn lawn!
Mike J
I would have paid super bowl ticket prices to see Beyonce beat Chris Martin to death with a ball peen hammer, but it hasn’t happened.
Yet.
ThresherK
I swear one year in the Superdome they had Steve Wonder driving a car and then ascending stairs to a platform to sing. Can someone back me up on this? (Or conversely tell me I’m full of beans; I’ll accept that if it’s the case.)
Now we have an “ode to halftime” montage during halftime? I guess “The Simpsons” has predicted everything!
gene108
@The Pale Scot:
Beyonce’s duds are pretty bad in their own right…
Omnes Omnibus
@Mike J: The specificity of the hammer choice intrigues me.
Mike J
@Omnes Omnibus: A claw hammer is too easy, too tempting to turn it around and go for the gouging.
Cacti
@Omnes Omnibus:
Claws can get stuck.
PurpleGirl
So anyone leaving the game for Downton Abby? At least Kitten Bowl rebroadcasts will end at 9 pm and I can go to Downton Abby without missing anything.
The Pale Scot
@Schlemazel (parmesan rancor):
Really, this like Journey without Perry or Pineda. Reverb to 11, meh with a Capital MEH
Omnes Omnibus
@Mike J: @Cacti: You guys have obviously put a lot of thought into this. Rather worrying.
geg6
@Omnes Omnibus:
That works for me. I’d love to host a Super Bowl here and I think Ben still has one in him if the Rooneys get him a defense.
Cacti
Also too, WTF was that abominable Puppymonkeybaby ad?
Elmo
I LIKE COLDPLAY OK? Leave me in my shame.
schrodinger's cat
What is the purpose of the half time show? Don’t people want to get back to the game. Its seems like a waste of time to me.
Schlemazel (parmesan rancor)
@Cacti:
I remember a lot of bitching when the game was held in Detroit (IIRC) the first cold weather site. Later I read that a lot of reporters were upset because the city had tried to clean up a bit so there were not enough hookers to go around. The reporters took their frustration out on the city in their reports. I heard – second hand – that Minneapolis made sure to not make that mistake when they hosted & got much better reviews.
JPL
@PurpleGirl: This weekend, I had company and was left with a copy of the final season. I just finished it in time to watch halftime. no spoilers
NotMax
@PurpleGirl
Equal opportunity ennui.
Zero interest in football, Downton Abbey or kittens.
Mike in NC
Here’s the Dubya ad for loser JEB! How much did they spend for that turd?
The Pale Scot
@Elmo: Do they have any hooks in their songs, or are they all “Wall of Tapioca” technique/production?
schrodinger's cat
@JPL: All set for the upcoming wedding? How is the dress shopping coming along?
Baud
@Mike in NC: It must be a local ad. Or I missed it.
Schlemazel (parmesan rancor)
geez, an hour later, shouldn’t the players warm up again?
Cacti
@Schlemazel (parmesan rancor):
I find all of this entirely believable.
GregB
@Mike in NC:
Talk about a Hail Mary.
JPL
@schrodinger’s cat: Next week. I am excited about the festivities though.
The Pale Scot
@NotMax: Kittens? Really?
How about a Baby Rhino ?
ThresherK
@schrodinger’s cat: Because the midfield turf ain’t gonna destroy itself?
Seriously, I have no better idea. It’s there because of sheer inertia.
The only American pro team sports to escape this are hockey and baseball. Even the MLS Cup falls prey. I don’t like overblown Star Spangled Banners beforehand, and God Bless Americas during the 7th inning stretch, but they are simply not as bad.
And at least in collegiate sports there are the actual bands from the schools.
schrodinger's cat
@PurpleGirl: Not watching the game, will tune into Downton Abbey. Although so far this season has been a big yawn.
BruceFromOhio
Ted: Just throw me the damned ball, Cam.
Cam: OK, here you go.
Jim, Foolish Literalist
@Baud: I read it was a So Carolina ad. They’re burning through that hundred million too fast for national, I guess, and they want some rat-fuck revenge money left over
Elie
@Felonius Monk:
No worries…. Bum and Buddy get tangled together in my mind…. both great defensive thinkers. I personally LOVE defense more than anything…
geg6
@John Revolta:
Must have been the chem trails. I remember nothing good from Up With People. Ever.
Baud
@Jim, Foolish Literalist: It’s like Brewster’s Millions with that campaign.
The Other Chuck
@Baud: I think he’s trailing None of the Above. You might be on to something.
Elie
@Elmo:
You will get no condemnation from me. Enjoy! I like all the glitter and flash — I can go a lot of ways…
:-)
debbie
@PurpleGirl:
I am. Gotta see what happened after last week.
Baud
@The Other Chuck:
Well, good thing he’s below None of the Above on the ballot.
Jim, Foolish Literalist
Florina changed her name in a bid to move up in the polls and get back on the debate stage?
Schlemazel (parmesan rancor)
@ThresherK:
The most famous overblown anthem was at a Penguins Stanley Cup game. It went on forever (and was parodied by the Simpsons) Pit blamed the singer for their loss & it sort of killed his career.
I just LUV the jingo-fest the 7th inning stretch has become, God Bless America followed by I’m Proud to be an American. Really they should finish it off by executing some brown foreigners at second base.
NotMax
@geg6
A well-scrubbed, apple-cheeked concoction suitable to show up on Lawrence Welk’s show in a vain attempt to make it seem trendy and hip.
gene108
Cotchery’s having a bad game
Baud
Missed!!!
Jim, Foolish Literalist
Day-yum
Baud
This game is U-G-L-Y.
BruceFromOhio
DOINK! Gaia save me, Panthers, you are killing me here.
Solace: still a one-possession game. Oy.
Betty Cracker
Unfortunate field goal miss.
@Elmo: I’ll join you on the Bleachers of Shame. I like some of their stuff too.
Schlemazel (parmesan rancor)
HEY! if you want some real excitement, US vs. CHina in curling on NBCSports!!! If NBCSports had a second channel like ESPN it would be carrying the international paint drying competition.
NotMax
@Schlemazel
What, they omitted Let the Eagle Soar?
(*suppresses gag reflex*)
PurpleGirl
@NotMax: That’s okay. Diversity is the spice of life.
The Dangerman
Sure, they missed the field goal, but that series of downs tells me Denver is in deep shit; Carolina may have figured out a scheme that works … and I don’t think Peyton has it in him.
ruemara
@Cacti: WEl thank you for explaining it. I am unfortunately quite drunk on vodka and therefore insensate. BUt I appreciate the clarity. about 2 hours to sobriety.
BruceFromOhio
@Schlemazel (parmesan rancor):
FTFY
Baud
@The Dangerman: You, sir, are a jinx.
Elie
Wuh-OH — missed that field goal….
You Cannot Do that In the Super Bowl if your team is NOT AHEAD.
WOW
The Panthers just look unprepared physically and psychologically. This is a game they should be able to easily win and instead they are not just not winning, but they look LAME. Whatever, looking LAME after a year when they lost only one game…. Man its gotta hurt…
It proves that if you have a good team around you, you do not have to be the best quarterback in the league… you have to do the basics and minimize your mistakes…
ThresherK
@Schlemazel (parmesan rancor): I really enjoy hockey, but somehow don’t remember the actual event, but I do remember Bleeding Gums Murphy going on for about 40 minutes on the anthem on a Simpsons.
Ken Burns’ Baseball has a piano rendition of a few songs used often, notably Take Me Out to the Ball Game (including the verse) and the Star Spangled Banner. Bruce Hornsby may have been the pianist. The anthem comes in at about 1 minute 15 seconds, even with the last stanza slowed down.
GregB
@Schlemazel (parmesan rancor): With gold guided Trump guillotines.
Baud
@ruemara: I love this comment.
NotMax
@Schlemazel
Made me remember (damn you ;) ) Drop Kick Me, Jesus.
Elie
@The Dangerman:
Sir, you are dreaming. But carry on…
Personally, I would love that the Panthers would win and send Mr Supplement home hanging his head. But I am a realist and I see what I see. The Panthers remain rattled and have not found a way to win this psychologically. Its in their heads.
Heliopause
Two score game. Might be enough.
Jim, Foolish Literalist
they remade Tron again?
The Dangerman
@Baud:
Nah, they got to a 1st and 5 in the Red Zone and Peyton found a way to fuck it up.
Baud
I’ll be disappointed if someone wins this game.
Bob In Portland
I like the pink intestinal guy commercial better than the woman looking sad and painting a snail.
NotMax
@Baud
Not to worry. Trump will sue and demand a do-over.
Baud
Nice catch!
hilts
@ Betty Cracker
“Teams leading by at least six points at halftime are 30-3 in Super Bowl history.”
h/t Paul Gutierrez ESPN Staff Writer
Baud
@hilts: Peyton lost one of the 3.
Schlemazel (parmesan rancor)
@ThresherK:
I just tried googling & nothing comes up for it. I remember it being 91 or 92 & there was a big whoop about it because he really did go on for a very long time. Perhaps our host would remember? He was just a boy but still
BruceFromOhio
@Bob In Portland: It makes me want to go to the bathroom, both of them.
ETA SHEESH GUYS WTF
EETA saved by the Fit Bit
Baud
Turnovers…
Baud
Damn good run.
Schlemazel (parmesan rancor)
@Bob In Portland:
I thought the one of opouid induced constipation was a new high in bizarre. Last years “but I died” still holds the record but there are plenty of contenders this year
Betty Cracker
Unbelievably sloppy game. Cute ketchup commercial with the weiner dogs.
BruceFromOhio
@Baud: Sacks.
Schlemazel (parmesan rancor)
@Baud:
to turn an old sports cliche, Its a shame one of these teams has to win.
Probably not really fair as these defenses look solid
BruceFromOhio
Okay I keep seeing the Broncos punter kicking from his own end zone. This bodes well.
Baud
@Schlemazel (parmesan rancor): Yes, but so many penalties and turnovers.
gene108
Ginn, Jr. cannot run around like that on punt returns. He’s done it twice and both times Carolina has had a block in the back trying to get an opening for him.
Betty Cracker
Singing sheep!
Heliopause
At this point Denver’s punter is the MVP.
Schlemazel (parmesan rancor)
@Baud:
Well the turnovers can be credited to the D. The penalties probably are coming from extra bennies they took because it is the superb owl
The Other Chuck
@Betty Cracker: Demon sheep?
Schlemazel (parmesan rancor)
@Betty Cracker:
Yeah, jut what assholes need, truck bed speakers so they can annoy everyone in the neighborhood when they drive through.
A Ghost To Most
This game is playing out like every Broncos game of the last two months.
BruceFromOhio
Ted: Just Throw Me The Ball.
Cam: Okay, here you go.
Wag
Amazing D from both teams.
redshirt
Queen was such an unbelievably awesome band.
mark
Still lots of time to go, but I guess if the Broncos win Peyton get’s game MVP. So far it looks like the defense is most deserving though. My opinion only!
Baud
Good D.
Baud
@mark: Agree.
Wag
But especially from the Broncos.
BruceFromOhio
Sacks. Oh, the sacks.
gene108
@mark:
Peyton should not have gotten the MVP, when Indy won. The running back won the the game for Indy.
Elie
I wonder if Cam is going to wear that Versace leopard suit on the bus going home?
Next time, Cam, spend the week getting your head as well as your body ready and leave the suits at home.
BruceFromOhio
@mark: Yeah, something like that.
Wag
Super bowl babies commercial wins for the night.
Baud
The NFL reminds you to fuck responsibly after the big game.
redshirt
Super Bowl Babies.
Temporarily Max McGee (Soon Enough to Be Andy K Again)
@mark:
I’m thinking that if the game continues as it’s been played, it will go to a couple of players from Denver’s defensive front seven. There’s precedence for that- Super Bowl XII, when Danny White and Harvey Martin were co-MVPs.
redshirt
@Baud: That would be irresponsibly, no?
Betty Cracker
The Scientologists bought two Super Bowl ads?
Mike J
@redshirt: NFL trying to change rep after the stories about domestic abuse spiking after super bowl.
chopper
@Betty Cracker:
we’re lucky they haven’t bought the super bowl itself.
Baud
@redshirt: I suppose that would work too.
Baud
Turnovers….
mark
@Temporarily Max McGee (Soon Enough to Be Andy K Again): I agree that they are the most deserving, but this is probably Peyton’s last game and they will give it to him for that and sentimental reasons. Hope I’m wrong. Got to give credit where credit is due!
redshirt
@Mike J: Breed Strong.
chopper
manning’s stunning out of steam.
Betty Cracker
What’s the record for turnovers in a Super Bowl?
Schlemazel (parmesan rancor)
@Schlemazel (parmesan rancor):
No, I take back my earlier defense of these teams, this is not a well played game & it is a shame one of them has to win.
John Revolta
@geg6: God, now that I’m thinking about it (thanks a lot BTW) I’m pretty sure that they played at my high school and we all had to go get uplifted. Damn, I bet somebody made a shitload of money off of that racket.
Ben Cisco (onboard the Defiant)
Nice run by Stewart.
eclare
@mark: Peyton is not leaving this game til he’s bagged and tagged on the field. He will be lucky to be able to walk in a few years.
Mike J
@Betty Cracker:
Most Turnovers, Game
9 Buffalo vs. Dallas, XXVII
8 Denver vs. Dallas, XII
7 Baltimore vs. Dallas, V
Most Turnovers, Both Teams, Game
11 Baltimore (7) vs. Dallas (4), V Buffalo (9) vs. Dallas (2), XXVII
10 Denver (8) vs. Dallas (2), XII
8 New England (6) vs. Chicago (2), XX
Chicago (5) vs. Indianapolis (3), XLI
Temporarily Max McGee (Soon Enough to Be Andy K Again)
@mark:
But he’s had a shit game, and not even Nantz and Simms can get away with naming him the MVP. If he was having a decent game, then maybe, but…
BTW: RANDY White, not Danny.
geg6
OT, I’m reading “Dearie” by Bob Spitz, a biography of Julia Child. I did not know this, but her dad was, I am inferring from the descriptions in the book, a John Bircher. I knew she was from a wealthy California family but not that he was involved in Chinatown-type water schemes, anti-communist and anti-French conspiracy theories and far right wing circles like the Grove attendees and such. Crazy, since she was quite the liberal herself.
Origuy
@Mike J:
Which is a myth, by the way. Snopes
Baud
@Temporarily Max McGee (Soon Enough to Be Andy K Again): If they fall behind and he’s able to drive down the field to win it, they’ll give it to him regardless of the rest of the game.
Baud
Toenail fungus ad. Reminds me of Balloon Juice.
Schlemazel (parmesan rancor)
I am thinking that the panthers are getting screwed. That was a good catch early in the game that they challenged & lost. Thar last thing was pass interference, not even close. There have been a couple others that went against the panthers, I have not noticed the same for Denver. Since I don’t care who wins I don’t think I am biased on this.
BruceFromOhio
@Baud: At least its not a turnover.
The Dangerman
I like the Guy, great player and all, but I feel a Peyton fumble or pick coming again.
Carolina boosters, hang in there.
Elie
@Schlemazel (parmesan rancor):
Their job is to take it out of the hands of the referees by executing. This should not have been close, but there it is. Referees always fuck you up.
GregB
Signs of Kasichmentum in N.H. He has moved into 3rd place behind Rubio and Trump.
Schlemazel (parmesan rancor)
@geg6:
I read her book, she had a lot of issues with her dads politics & he hated hers and her husband as well. She rejected the wealth of her upbringing to make her own way & it expanded her view
BruceFromOhio
Its fun watching famous people in expensive advertisements wearing the exact same boots that I wore when I was pumping gas for minimum wage in 1980.
lol chikinburd
@Elizabelle: Surviving, thanks for asking. Getting things done that need to get done. Too busy being busy to be too sad, though I know that eventually will change. That’s life, though.
Temporarily Max McGee (Soon Enough to Be Andy K Again)
@Schlemazel (parmesan rancor):
It happens to every team, all season long. Imagine how many teams got screwed before there was instant replay, or before there was even television. A couple of plays over the course of the game are something a good team overcomes.
Except for that fucking Fail Mary play in Seattle a few years ago…
Baud
Big drive for Carolina coming up.
Schlemazel (parmesan rancor)
@Elie:
I understand that they get stuff wrong but when it mostly goes one way it stinks. Perhaps NC would not be doing so badly had that catch been ruled a catch, certainly the interference call made a huge difference. There have been a couple other drive killers that were questionable. Neither team is covering itself in glory but one does seem to be getting help in that department.
Betty Cracker
@Schlemazel (parmesan rancor): She seems to have been a thoroughly fabulous person.
Tas
As bad as this game is, no one should get mvp.
redshirt
Let’s go Carolina! One TD and you’re ahead.
Wag
Boy. The Panther front line is twitchy.
mark
@Temporarily Max McGee (Soon Enough to Be Andy K Again): NFL settled the ref strike real quick after that one. Remember it well!
a hip hop artist from Idaho (fka Bella Q)
@Wag: Aren’t they ever.
Baud
If Peyton has one more drive left in him, that should be the game.
TallPete
@Baud: Hey whipper-snapper! I resemble that
schrodinger's cat
@Omnes Omnibus: That’s what I have to do too!
The Pale Scot
Helen Mirren wins the thread.
Baud
They’re not even letting Mannning throw. Now it’s third and long again.
Wag
I’m a life long Broncos fan, but for god’s sake, if Peyton can’t get a TD, do they deserve a SB win?
mark
3rd and 9 and they run it. what the hell are they thinking?
BruceFromOhio
Denver going to run the clock. All the timeouts left.
Schlemazel (parmesan rancor)
@Betty Cracker:
She and my mom had a lot in common, both learned how to cook with trial and error and really dug into food preparation to get it right. JC had a fabulous opportunity and really made the most out of it. My mom was pregnant when she graduated high school, married later that month & had 5 kids in 5 years so the opportunities did not appear. She did have a successful catering business eventually but I always wonder how much further she could have gone. I also wish she could have met JC, I bet they would have had a great time talking food.
Betty Cracker
Does the Bronco D have another stop in the tank? It’ll come down to that.
Baud
I get that the Denver D is awesome, but that’s a stupid strategy.
ETA: Still a dumb strategy.
Baud
Turnovers…..
Jim, Foolish Literalist
this is unbelievable
gene108
Ball game. Newton fumbled.
Schlemazel (parmesan rancor)
@Temporarily Max McGee (Soon Enough to Be Andy K Again):
Billion dollar industry with billionaire owners & millionaire players but part-time officials.
And that was a forward pass
mark
Forward pass or fumble?
BruceFromOhio
@Betty Cracker: This is it. If Panthers do not put up six on this possession, its overrrrrrrrr ….
ETA: AND ITS OVERRRRRRRRR. Hit the showers.
Betty Cracker
Ballgame? Wow.
@Schlemazel (parmesan rancor): Are you a cook too?
Wag
Then again, with a defense like Denver’s, maybe they do deserve it.
Omnes Omnibus
Von Miller as MVP?
Jay C
Three thoughts this SB:
1. IIJM, or this a mediocre football game?
2. IIJM. or this a abnormally penalty-laden game? ISTM that there’s a flag on every fourth or fifth play..
3. Jeep wins the Ad Bowl? Really cool ads…..
redshirt
@Omnes Omnibus: Von Miller should be the MVP. Anyone else is a joke.
mark
First and goal, Denver!
Game over!
Baud
@redshirt: Even the idiot Simms says that.
Schlemazel (parmesan rancor)
@Betty Cracker:
Oh yeah, I grew up as her 3rd – did all the peeling & chopping, all the grunt work. I love to cook. My kids all do too. Unfortunately our daughter took it a little too seriously & is a professional cook. It is a shitty way to make a living but she bought that bullshit about doing what you love. She has worked in some very very high end places but is treated like dirt.
Baud
It’s over.
hilts
YES!!
Elie
I really wanted the Panthers to win this. I am so disappointed for them and so hoped that they would be more ready for this…Oh well…
I have learned that you cannot assume that you will get another chance. You have to prepare and stay focused. Nothing is given — only earned.
Wag
Awesome! Now with a Denver offense TD I feel better
Honus
@Temporarily Max McGee (Soon Enough to Be Andy K Again): Chuck Howley (from Wheeling, W Va) was an outside linebacker for the Cowboys and was MVP of Super Bowl V. Still the only Super Bowl MVP from a losing team. (The Cowboys lost 16-13 to the colts)
A Ghost To Most
Defense wins championships.
Schlemazel (parmesan rancor)
@Wag:
yeah, they needed what, 7 yards? That fixes everything
replay shows, it was not a pass so it was a fumble
hilts
@Elie:
That suit looked a lot better on Cam than it did on Charlie fucking Rose.
a hip hop artist from Idaho (fka Bella Q)
I laughed until I nearly cried at the Prius ad. Brilliant. The end.
Elie
@A Ghost To Most:
AMEN
Wag
I think that seals it.
Temporarily Max McGee (Soon Enough to Be Andy K Again)
@Omnes Omnibus: @redshirt:
Yep.
NotMax
@Schlemazel
There’s an A Boy Named Sous quip in there somewhere.
Baud
That was salt in the wound.
Steeplejack (phone)
@Schlemazel (parmesan rancor):
ESPN-8. “If it’s almost a sport, it’s on the Ocho!”
The Dangerman
Kubiak didn’t let Manning pass again (well, other than that one 10 feet over everyone’s head).
MobiusKlein
@Jay C: And turnovers.
Betty Cracker
@redshirt: Yep.
Baud
@MobiusKlein: This.
Elie
@hilts:
I suspect he won’t like it much after this.
May have been better to wear work outs and stay focused… Though I am just disappointed for them and him
max
So it was the Default Bowl?
max
[‘Sounds…not awesome.’]
Baud
Goddamn what a stupid graphic.
Jay C
@MobiusKlein:
Yep. And turnovers.
chopper
@Baud:
wot, the blue wall of death?
Baud
@chopper: Yes.
mark
Good game and a good end to a good season. For the most part the game was played clean and the officiating was pretty good. No complaints here other than it wasn’t the Seahawks winning it all.
Peale
@Elie: yep. Cam should ask Dan Marino, Dan Fouts and Warren Moon about how frequently these chances come around. Kudos to the Denver Defense for revealing his weaknesses.
mark
Peyton’s backup coming into the game. How dramatic?
Baud
One last punt for the MVP punter.
cckids
@mark: Gotta disagree about the “good game” part. It was a messy, error-filled, kinda boring game. Both of the conference championship games were miles better.
Baud
Haha. Ten second runoff. Fitting for this game.
mark
@cckids: I understand where your coming from, but I do enjoy a good defensive game from time to time. This was one of those times in my opinion.
Wag
There is is!
mark
Feel bad for the Panther players. I’d cry too. So close yet so far away.
Betty Cracker
Congrats to Broncos fans.
Steeplejack (phone)
That Papa John fucker just rooted in for a hug with Manning on the field right after time expired. What a starfucking douche.
Baud
Turnover bowl is officially in the books.
Cacti
To be fair to Cam, it was total team choke on offense for Carolina.
Lots of catch-able balls dropped by receivers, bad turnovers, and Ron Rivera not having his team mentally prepared to play.
The defense did about all you could ask from them.
Baud
@Cacti: Agree.
Steeplejack (phone)
Okay, patriotic duty fulfilled. Let me find something else to watch. Anything.
Omnes Omnibus
@Baud: Yep.
Cacti
@Omnes Omnibus:
About the only other with a credible case is the kicker.
mark
@Steeplejack (phone): I’ve got to agree on that one. The Papa John asshole shouldn’t be allowed anywhere near the game. The guy makes my skin crawl!
Omnes Omnibus
@Steeplejack (phone): There is a new Bletchley Circle episode starting in 30 minutes on my PBS station.
ThresherK
@mark: After debacles in some of the higher-echelon bowl games, and NFL playoffs, I’m just relieved that an officiating screwup didn’t really play a part here.
David Koch
After 40 seasons in professional football and at age 68, Wade Phillips wins his first Super Bowl
This was Wade Phillips’s and Von Miller’s Super Bowl.
Betty Cracker
@Steeplejack (phone): LMAO! Great description of that smarmy dickhead.
Omnes Omnibus
Turkish Airlines?
Baud
Congrats, Broncos fans. Now go make some Superbowl babies.
cckids
@Omnes Omnibus: Agreed. WTF? Was that just a Batman -v- Superman ad in deep disguise?
Cacti
@mark:
Yeah, “Papa” John Schnatter is a total Republican douchecannon.
He’s the arsehole who lives in a 24,000 square foot mansion, and threatened to raise the price of his crap pizzas if the Affordable Care Act passed.
Steeplejack (phone)
@Omnes Omnibus:
Thanks. Not on here. I think I’ll finish up last night’s Dalziel and Pascoe on the DVR.
David Koch
Those Papa John commercials are so racist. 98% of the starters in the NFL are black, yet he has 3 white players as his spokespersons.
Baud
I’m waiting to see who gets named MVP.
Omnes Omnibus
@Baud: As am I.
Jim, Foolish Literalist
@Cacti: by .14, as I recall? I remember that fundraiser with Willard. “What a house! What grounds! What a swimming pool!”
I’ve seen Manning referred to as a partner in that business, I don’t know if that’s actually a big stake in the company, or a franchise deal.
Baud
Von Miller!
Cacti
@Baud:
Gotta say, found that particular ad campaign a little creepy too.
Baud
@Cacti: I don’t know. The Fatherland does need more soldiers.
Heliopause
1. Regarding that dropped/not dropped pass early on, stop complaining. Fact is, the ball was moving in his grasp, it might have touched the ground while doing so, that’s why the call wasn’t overturned. Mike Carey has botched several of these in games I’ve watched and Phil Simms is obviously an idiot, so don’t listen to them. Just stop bitching.
2. MVP? I was half kidding earlier when I suggested Colquitt, but he legitimately was probably the runner up. Von Miller for sure.
3. Let’s talk about Cam. It is absolutely true that he was subjected to an awful lot of thinly veiled racist bullshit in recent weeks, but at the same time we have to be honest. He isn’t even the 12th best QB in the league much less the best. Carolina rode an excellent defense, good run game, and clownishly easy schedule to this point. That’s just the way it is. The Panthers finally faced a top tier team that was on its game and on a neutral field. If they want to win a SB they’ll have to develop a less gimmicky pass attack.
4. Peyton’s body is obviously shot and a Trent Dilfer-Ryan Leaf hybrid probably could have won this game today. That is to say he didn’t strictly deserve to end his career on this note but oh well.
A Ghost To Most
@Jim, Foolish Literalist:
Manning owns several Papa John’s in CO
cckids
I get that Bud is a sponsor, but are they paying Manning big $$ every time he name-drops them? Its beyond weird.
David Koch
@Cacti: not only that it’s false
Since most births happen in August, if there’s any correlation to sports it would be the World Series.
jonas
@Cacti: Well, if he had to pay his employees shit, he couldn’t afford the mega-mansion. Duh.
joeyess
Wish I had read this post prior to the game. Taking into account Cracker’s track record, I would have bet the other way.
In a heartbeat.
Geeno
I told everyone I knew IRL to take the points, the Denver D wasn’t going to let the Broncos get crushed. They did even better than I thought they would and held Carolina out of the game.
As the old adage goes, “Offense sells tickets; defense wins championships”.
mark
Von Miller is the MVP. Glad I was wrong!
Mai.naem.mobile
Don’t give a crap about the game. I’m just waiting for Colbert. The Budweiser product placement by Manning is kinda douchey.
Temporarily Max McGee (Soon Enough to Be Andy K Again)
@David Koch:
And college homecoming weekends, and the long Thanksgiving weekend.
Cacti
Is Manning the first Super Bowl winner in history to name check Budweiser before God?
Mike J
Jennifer Bendery @jbendery 2h2 hours ago
Let’s dispel with this fiction that Beyonce doesn’t know what she’s doing. She knows exactly what she’s doing.
Temporarily Max McGee (Soon Enough to Be Andy K Again)
@jonas:
Sure he could.
Now the water bill is a different story. If you aren’t getting constant flow through your moat, it tends to get stinky awfully quickly.
cckids
@Cacti: Well, God’s not paying the bills.
ruemara
This was a really shit game. ruemara about 3/4 sober. still can’t focus.
Omnes Omnibus
@cckids: OTOH he thanked God for the opportunity not the win.
Soylent Green
I’ve been a Broncos fan for 35 years, so am enjoying this win. Almost every one of our wins this season was close enough to lose, and were achieved by the defense.
Most of us want Manning to hang it up — we are ready for the next guy. And I wish he would get off my TV. I keep thinking, dammit Peyton how much money do you need?
Betty Cracker
This was probably the worst crop of Super Bowl ads I’ve ever seen. I hope that puppy-monkey-baby ad doesn’t become a thing. Creepy as hell!
Cacti
@Betty Cracker:
They never told us if puppymonkeybaby was a Super Bowl baby.
GregB
@Betty Cracker: It was just horrible. Whoever green lighted that on is soft in the head.
Steve in the ATL
@Heliopause:
Ouch!
I'mNotSureWhoIWantToBeYet
I haven’t read all the comments.
Has anyone speculated about whether NC was paid to lose? There was the “record punt return” where the NC guy had the Denver receiver in his arms and suddenly drew back as if the guy with the ball had called “fair catch”. There was Cam backing away from the ball after it was stripped from his hand. I wouldn’t be surprised if there were others…
Elie here called it very early. You folks should listen to her. ;-)
Maybe it was nerves. But it looked, as usual, that too many mistakes were made in the officiating and too many mistakes were made that couldn’t easily be explained by just nerves…
(I didn’t watch most of it. Seeing #21 nearly rip the head off the NC guy and just get a facemask personal foul and a 1 yard penalty was the perfect illustration to me that NFL football isn’t a sport. It’s a violent money-grubbing monopoly designed to grind up men, break their bodies, and kill them early, just to extract more money out of Americans (and increasingly other people around the world).)
FWIW.
Cheers,
Scott.
David Koch
Man, he obviously did not get enough attention as a kid.
Also hilarious coming from the loser who killed the USFL. America craves football in all it’s forms (pro, college, high school). Owning a football franchise is a license to print money. Yet Trump is such a dumbshit he found a way to kill an entire league.
Omnes Omnibus
@I’mNotSureWhoIWantToBeYet: FFS.
David Koch
@Mike J: Heh!
Cacti
@I’mNotSureWhoIWantToBeYet:
The punt return sequence just seemed like a brain fart after the Carolina players had interfered with the returner and were expecting a flag (but didn’t get one for some reason).
Newton not trying to frantically dive on that fumble was just plain strange.
Cacti
@David Koch:
Also couldn’t make money on a gambling casino.
Are there two things Americans love more than gambling and football? Trump couldn’t make a buck at either of them.
Wyliecoat
@schrodinger’s cat: for a few days the mobile site was working well, now the text is back to microscopic size and needs to be zoomed in to
Wag
I think that the best way to think about this game is to recognize that a multiracial defense worked together to overpower a multiracial offense and a great lily white band shared the stage with a pair of amazing black performers on a wild ass flower of a stage.
In other words, if you can look beyond my bronco’s GOP loving, over the hill QB and stupid racist remarks made about the Panther’s black QB, this game reflected a new American ideal in sports and entertainment.
Mike J
Marshawn Lynch tweets that he’s hanging up his cleats.
catclub
@Cacti:
I bet it is drilled and drilled into quarterbacks to NOT get involved in fumble scrums.
I was not surprised.
J R in WV
@geg6: Julia Child was with the OSS during WW II… which is a lot like being with the CIA, except the CIA hasn’t ever had to deal with the SS, or even a real war.
Mike J
@catclub:
Cam played like a professional quarterback whose first duty is to not get hurt. During the season when he ran he would stand up and take hits until he was brought down. Tonight he slid after he got the yards to avoid the tackle.
That’s not a knock on him. That’s smart play for somebody that wants a career.
NotMax
Moderately interesting – over 400 comments and not word one about the inflation or deflation pressure of footballs.
David Koch
@NotMax: or droooooonze
ruemara
Please you guys. Tell me Super Bowls are not normally this horrible. It’s killing my will on this anime script.
Steeplejack (phone)
@ruemara:
This was a pretty bad one, unrelieved by the dismal commercials.
Paul in KY
@Tissue Thin Pseudonym: The ball was moving while he was rolling around on ground. Correct call, IMO.
Paul in KY
@Elie: He needed to bring his ‘A’ game to win. He did not.