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You are here: Home / Politics / Domestic Politics / Monday Morning Open Thread: Happy Lunar New Year!

Monday Morning Open Thread: Happy Lunar New Year!

by Anne Laurie|  February 8, 20165:15 am| 78 Comments

This post is in: Domestic Politics, Open Threads

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Gong xi fa cai! for the Year of the Fire Monkey. Probably should have linked to this list yesterday, but if you’re looking for an excuse not to do any housework and then go out for dinner (preferably wearing your lucky red undies), you’re good!

From the Washington Post:

… Market ups and downs, fires and viruses, the Year of the Monkey is predicted to have them all.

Hong Kong feng shui master Louis Wong foresees “a lot of fires happening around the world, especially in the forests. So we need to watch out for fire hazards,” he said. “Southeast Asia will see a lot of viruses or disease, so we need to be very careful about the Zika virus now.”…

A Hong Kong brokerage that publishes a tongue-in-cheek annual feng shui report said the Chinese territory’s Hang Seng stock index would perform decently until a downward swing mid-year, followed by a recovery.

“Overall, it’s a year for slow, considered expansion, not for raucous monkey antics,” it advises.

The CLSA brokerage says U.S. presidential campaigner Donald Trump [Fire Dog] should watch his cash outflow and beware the “golden-tongued” Hilary Clinton, who was born in the Year of the Pig and is therefore a good pal of the monkey…

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Apart from lunar celebrations — not to mention bracing ourselves for Mardi Gras & the NH primary tomorrow — what’s on the agenda as we start the week?

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  1. 1.

    OzarkHillbilly

    February 8, 2016 at 5:22 am

    Setting up the grow lights, getting the starter mix, and cups in preparation of starting my seeds.

  2. 2.

    Applejinx

    February 8, 2016 at 5:35 am

    The CLSA brokerage says U.S. presidential campaigner Donald Trump [Fire Dog] should watch his cash outflow and beware the “golden-tongued” Hilary Clinton, who was born in the Year of the Pig

    Sexist!

  3. 3.

    raven

    February 8, 2016 at 5:42 am

    Here’s my Super Bowl Turkey Football!

  4. 4.

    Botsplainer, Cryptofascist Tool of the Oppressor Class

    February 8, 2016 at 5:45 am

    @raven:

    What are the strips for the decoration? Noodles?

  5. 5.

    OzarkHillbilly

    February 8, 2016 at 5:54 am

    @raven: Looks a little under inflated. Did you have Tom Brady over? Also looks perfectly cooked.

  6. 6.

    raven

    February 8, 2016 at 5:58 am

    @Botsplainer, Cryptofascist Tool of the Oppressor Class: No, i used to use boiled egg whites but I juts put strips of shared cheddar. Reports were that it tasted lots better than it looked!

  7. 7.

    Patricia Kayden

    February 8, 2016 at 6:04 am

    @raven: Looks quite delicious. The turkey which sacrificed its life for that would be proud.

  8. 8.

    Botsplainer, Cryptofascist Tool of the Oppressor Class

    February 8, 2016 at 6:16 am

    @raven:

    Looks outstanding!

  9. 9.

    BillinGlendaleCA

    February 8, 2016 at 6:19 am

    Guess I gota vote for the fellow Pig(the kid’s a Pig too).

  10. 10.

    Major Major Major Major

    February 8, 2016 at 6:19 am

    I’d say happy Tet but my Vietnamese inlaws vanished with the rest of the divorce.

    Happy Monday?

  11. 11.

    Mustang Bobby

    February 8, 2016 at 6:21 am

    @raven: Looks tasty. Hope there’s some left over for sandwiches.

  12. 12.

    Betty Cracker

    February 8, 2016 at 6:21 am

    @OzarkHillbilly: Ha! But you may have lit the Whiny Pats Defenders League beacon with that comment, just as they’d gone dormant!

  13. 13.

    Schlemazel (parmesan rancor)

    February 8, 2016 at 6:28 am

    Our daughter lives in CO as well as some of my wife’s cousins I went to look at facebook this AM & found it unreadable. 15000 posts about how wonderful the Broncos were & how Manning is going to be drinking Budweiser (WHAT?!? I assume some SB tie in but really?) It was nice, I didn’t have to pretend to even try to wade through that.

  14. 14.

    NotMax

    February 8, 2016 at 6:33 am

    a lot of fires happening around the world, especially in the forests

    As opposed to happening in the world’s deserts, lakes and oceans, definitely.

  15. 15.

    NotMax

    February 8, 2016 at 6:39 am

    @raven

    Now if only they made an athletic cup-shaped gravy boat…      ;)

    (Wouldn’t be at all surprised if such a thing exists.)

  16. 16.

    raven

    February 8, 2016 at 6:41 am

    @Mustang Bobby: Yea, we had about 25 people, half of who left to watch Downton Abbey. They all brought wonderful food so there was a good bit of everything left!

  17. 17.

    raven

    February 8, 2016 at 6:44 am

    @Major Major Major Major: Choi Duk!

  18. 18.

    NotMax

    February 8, 2016 at 6:46 am

    Big question is whether or not the Stupor Bowl reverts back to Roman numerals next year for Bowl LI.

    Almost worth using a stadium on Long Island.

  19. 19.

    BillinGlendaleCA

    February 8, 2016 at 6:47 am

    Well, it only took Joe of the Morning 35 minutes to get to the Clenis, CLICK!

  20. 20.

    NotMax

    February 8, 2016 at 6:50 am

    @>raven

    No cooking related gashes or smashes reported – a good day all around.

  21. 21.

    Schlemazel (parmesan rancor)

    February 8, 2016 at 6:56 am

    The new management has been fretting over structure for a year now. They announced last week that they are going to make the big reveal next week Wed. So, as hot as the rumor market has been for the last 12 months it went nuclear overdrive. It is going to be interesting as I have my own ideas as to what is going to happen. Whatever happens we are sure to have 2 new lamprey’s attached sucking money out of our organization like it is endless.

  22. 22.

    NotMax

    February 8, 2016 at 6:57 am

    In honor of the most repeated term on yesterday’s football thread, turnovers.

  23. 23.

    Schlemazel (parmesan rancor)

    February 8, 2016 at 6:58 am

    @NotMax:
    those look good! Very appropriate too

  24. 24.

    Botsplainer, Cryptofascist Tool of the Oppressor Class

    February 8, 2016 at 7:11 am

    @Schlemazel (parmesan rancor):

    You’d think that with his money, he’d be able to afford decent beer.

  25. 25.

    Princess

    February 8, 2016 at 7:16 am

    This is a thoughtful piece on what gets described as progressive these days:

    http://sadydoyle.tumblr.com/post/138860699828/progressive

  26. 26.

    Baud

    February 8, 2016 at 7:22 am

    @NotMax: I hope the NFL uses Arabic numerals so that conservatives freak out.

  27. 27.

    NotMax

    February 8, 2016 at 7:24 am

    (*mouth agape*>)

    A Chicago police officer who fatally shot a college student and his 55-year-old neighbor has filed a lawsuit against the teenager’s estate that blames the mentally ill 19-year-old for causing the officer “extreme emotional trauma.” Source

  28. 28.

    Patricia Kayden

    February 8, 2016 at 7:25 am

    @BillinGlendaleCA: I’m almost afraid to ask what is a Clenis.

  29. 29.

    OzarkHillbilly

    February 8, 2016 at 7:29 am

    @Patricia Kayden: Bill Clinton’s appendage.

  30. 30.

    Iowa Old Lady

    February 8, 2016 at 7:32 am

    @Patricia Kayden: @OzarkHillbilly: And by appendage, OzarkHillbilly doesn’t mean Hillary.

  31. 31.

    henqiguai

    February 8, 2016 at 7:34 am

    @Patricia Kayden(#28):

    I’m almost afraid to ask what is a Clenis.

    Your basic portmanteau…

  32. 32.

    David Koch

    February 8, 2016 at 7:35 am

    @Baud: You mean Sharia numerals.

    Over the years I’ve actually seen wingnuts on deadspin attempt to make jokes predicting Obama will force americans to use “arab numbers”. the mockery that follows is delicious.

    A couple of years ago Trump was sued because he wanted to fly the world’s largest american flag at one of his golf courses (rich people in palm beach didn’t like it obstructing views). So Colbert interviewed Trump and asked him what do the stripes on the flag represent and he had no idea. And he was proud of it. There could be no better standard bearer of the Know-Nothings.

  33. 33.

    BillinGlendaleCA

    February 8, 2016 at 7:38 am

    @Patricia Kayden: Bill Clinton’s, eh, ya know…

  34. 34.

    BillinGlendaleCA

    February 8, 2016 at 7:39 am

    @Princess: Interesting piece.

  35. 35.

    HinTN

    February 8, 2016 at 8:13 am

    @Schlemazel (parmesan rancor): St. Peyton’s halo really tarnished the first time he said that, “I’m drinking a lot of Budweiser tonight.” crap. When he repeated it, slightly garbled, we thought, “Hey, he’s endorsing Marco Rubio” and we’d had enough. Click

  36. 36.

    Steeplejack

    February 8, 2016 at 8:16 am

    I vaulted out of bed this morning with renewed purpose in life when I suddenly remembered two things that happened yesterday: I doubled my notebook’s RAM (from 4 to 8 GB), and I downloaded Håkan Nesser’s new Inspector Van Veeteren novel, Hour of the Wolf, which I had completely forgotten came out a few weeks ago. If you like Scandinavian crime fiction, check out the series. Starts with The Mind’s Eye and Borkmann’s Point.

    The housecat vaulted out of bed so that she could vault onto her heated workstation to start her morning nap.

  37. 37.

    Central Planning

    February 8, 2016 at 8:19 am

    I’m getting ready for a business trip to Germany at the end of the week. That should be a good time.

    We also got our first batch of maple syrup last night – 12 ounces… I think we probably boiled down 4-5 gallons of sap that we got from 2 trees yesterday. Yum!

  38. 38.

    satby

    February 8, 2016 at 8:25 am

    @Princess: That was great, thanks.

  39. 39.

    OzarkHillbilly

    February 8, 2016 at 8:27 am

    @Princess: Good read. Thanx.

  40. 40.

    magurakurin

    February 8, 2016 at 8:27 am

    @Princess: thank you for that link. I put it on my facebook page. Of course I don’t have any friends so my facebook page is more like a multi year bookmark list of outrage. But I liked that article very much.

  41. 41.

    bemused

    February 8, 2016 at 8:28 am

    After someone commented in GOP debate thread that audience didn’t know whether to clap or not when Trump said we’re not going to let Americans die in the street, I had to watch that clip. It was worse than I imagined, sounded like one person clapping. They really do want to see uninsured Americans die, preferably right in front of them.

  42. 42.

    Baud

    February 8, 2016 at 8:44 am

    According to Reddit, this happened in Germany.

  43. 43.

    satby

    February 8, 2016 at 8:44 am

    Happy Lunar New Year everyone! We’re expecting snow from now until Thursday, 4-8 inches, so the girls will finally get a chance to go sledding. I’m off to go buy some cheap sled now ;)

  44. 44.

    MomSense

    February 8, 2016 at 8:47 am

    @Princess:

    That was awesome.

  45. 45.

    Eric S.

    February 8, 2016 at 8:52 am

    @Schlemazel (parmesan rancor): According to deadspin, Manning owns a couple of A-B distributorships.

  46. 46.

    Ultraviolet Thunder

    February 8, 2016 at 8:54 am

    I’m in CT building a 4000 watt metal cutting laser for practice and waiting for snow.

  47. 47.

    OzarkHillbilly

    February 8, 2016 at 9:02 am

    @Baud: Heh.

  48. 48.

    father pussbucket

    February 8, 2016 at 9:02 am

    @David Koch:

    Colbert interviewed Trump and asked him what do the stripes on the flag represent and he had no idea.

    Found it.

  49. 49.

    Central Planning

    February 8, 2016 at 9:03 am

    @Baud:

    According to Reddit, this happened in Germany.

    I’ll make sure I’m on the lookout when I’m over there and report back the oppo research to you.

  50. 50.

    Matt McIrvin

    February 8, 2016 at 9:29 am

    @David Koch:

    Over the years I’ve actually seen wingnuts on deadspin attempt to make jokes predicting Obama will force americans to use “arab numbers”. the mockery that follows is delicious.

    To be slightly fair to them, the version of Arabic numerals actually used in the Arab world isn’t quite the same as what we use; the system is the same but the actual digits are written differently.

  51. 51.

    rikyrah

    February 8, 2016 at 9:33 am

    Good Morning, Everyone :)

  52. 52.

    rikyrah

    February 8, 2016 at 9:34 am

    Long White House tradition nears end for a family descended from a slave
    By Juliet Eilperin
    February 7 at 11:53 AM

    The public and private rhythms of the White House have shaped John Wrory Ficklin’s daily life from the day he was born.

    On Nov. 22, 1963, the day John F. Kennedy was shot and killed in Dallas, Ficklin was 7 and playing at a neighbor’s house when his friend’s mother told him he needed to hurry home. At the time, his father, also named John, was the White House maitre d’ and very close to the center of the unfolding national tragedy. The next time Ficklin actually saw his father was on television three days later, in a rented morning suit, as the slain president’s coffin was carried into the Cathedral of St. Matthew the Apostle in Washington for the funeral Mass.

    The White House is a place defined by transients — presidents and political appointees who come and go after a term or two.

    But Ficklin is a different, more enduring sort: He is the 10th member of his family — all children and grandchildren of a Virginia slave born in 1857 — to have worked in the White House, a long line that stretches back to Franklin Delano Roosevelt’s administration. Ficklin’s uncle Charles got a job as a White House butler in 1939. His father, John Woodson Ficklin, born in 1919, joined the staff in 1940 and stayed for 43 years.

    The long family streak may end with Ficklin, who retired last month just shy of his 60th birthday. But he was also the first whose work would range beyond the kitchens, pantries and dining rooms of the executive mansion and into the West Wing. Ficklin retired as a special assistant to the president and senior director for records and access management at the National Security Council.

  53. 53.

    Denali

    February 8, 2016 at 9:35 am

    @Princess,

    Thanks for the link and the reminder.

  54. 54.

    D58826

    February 8, 2016 at 9:36 am

    @Matt McIrvin: since the wingnuts can’t read or count it doesn’t make much difference.

  55. 55.

    Betty Cracker

    February 8, 2016 at 9:41 am

    @Princess: Great read! I’d love to know what publication that was…

  56. 56.

    the Conster, la Citoyenne

    February 8, 2016 at 9:47 am

    I thought this was pretty funny about Hillary – all the terrible things she’s done (but hasn’t). Seen all in one place, she really has been accused of literally everything.

  57. 57.

    OzarkHillbilly

    February 8, 2016 at 9:48 am

    @Betty Cracker:It was her personal blog, or so I thought after clicking thru to see what else she had written.

  58. 58.

    Paul in KY

    February 8, 2016 at 9:51 am

    @Schlemazel (parmesan rancor): If I was a Broncos fan, I’d be smoking some bud!

  59. 59.

    Paul in KY

    February 8, 2016 at 9:52 am

    @NotMax: I think it will. Hope I live to see Super Bowl LXXXVIII

  60. 60.

    Paul in KY

    February 8, 2016 at 9:54 am

    @Central Planning: Hope you have a fine time over there. Drink a beer or three!

  61. 61.

    OzarkHillbilly

    February 8, 2016 at 10:02 am

    @the Conster, la Citoyenne: Funny. Thanx, I now have the one go to site for every HRC conspiracy theory.

  62. 62.

    Betty Cracker

    February 8, 2016 at 10:10 am

    @OzarkHillbilly: I meant the publication she was interviewing with that called itself “progressive” but apparently wasn’t.

  63. 63.

    Paul in KY

    February 8, 2016 at 10:35 am

    @Betty Cracker: Think it was ‘The Advocate’? Trying to think of a ‘progressive’ publication that would think that most ‘progressives’ are male.

  64. 64.

    D58826

    February 8, 2016 at 10:37 am

    @the Conster, la Citoyenne: It just seems that if you are Bill or Hillary and go about doing the things that normal politicians/public figure do it becomes the biggest scandal since the last time Bill/Hillary did something scandalous. . So she charged a speaking fee for speeches, what of it. There are agencies that co-ordinate these kind of events. If she was able to ask 750k and someone was willing to pay it then more power to her. Isn’t that the heart of capitalism – charging what the traffic will bear? I understand her ‘I’ll release my transcripts when every one else releases theirs’ but I suspect that will just drag this out and she must be hiding something. Confession that she personally lead the attack in Benghazi maybe. Just one more media frenzy that proves nothing. I suspect that some of it is pure jealous among those who can only demand 50k per speech, Can we get back to really important issues – like how she or Bernie will improve medical care access in the US or the best way to deal with ISIS.

  65. 65.

    gogol's wife

    February 8, 2016 at 10:42 am

    I was looking forward to the final episode of War and Peace tonight, but I don’t think the retreat from Moscow in the snow is going to be quite what I’ll want to watch tonight, after storms on Friday and again today. I hate winter!

  66. 66.

    Peale

    February 8, 2016 at 10:58 am

    @D58826: It will prove that she sold us out to the banks. You may think making money and capitalism go together, but she’s made too much money and I know so. She may even believe that financial services are part of a modern, well functioning economy and that banking interests aren’t necessarily at odds with life as we want it to be. Clearly anyone who thinks that capitalism might work and that we shouldn’t destroy the capitalists is going to hand us over to years of servitude, neigh slavery, to the parasitic rentier class. There is only moderate socialism and there is neo-liberal extremism and only those two exist right now.

  67. 67.

    MomSense

    February 8, 2016 at 11:05 am

    @Paul in KY:

    More like The Intercept.

  68. 68.

    Paul in KY

    February 8, 2016 at 11:06 am

    @Peale: I am assuming that was somewhat tongue-in-cheek.

  69. 69.

    The Thin Black Duke

    February 8, 2016 at 11:08 am

    @Paul in KY: No, I think he’s serious.

  70. 70.

    Paul in KY

    February 8, 2016 at 11:09 am

    @MomSense: Had never heard of this publication till now. Read the wiki summary of it & that would be a good guess. Will say that Libertarians are not Progressive (in my book, anyway).

  71. 71.

    Paul in KY

    February 8, 2016 at 11:11 am

    @The Thin Black Duke: I was thinking this part: ‘Clearly anyone who thinks that capitalism might work and that we shouldn’t destroy the capitalists is going to hand us over to years of servitude, neigh slavery, to the parasitic rentier class. There is only moderate socialism and there is neo-liberal extremism and only those two exist right now.’

    I myself like tightly regulated capitalism. As tightly regulated as Adam Smith advocated & was done back in FDR’s time.

  72. 72.

    PlumpJoan

    February 8, 2016 at 11:12 am

    @Botsplainer, Cryptofascist Tool of the Oppressor Class:

  73. 73.

    Elizabelle

    February 8, 2016 at 11:13 am

    Good morning all.

    Fell asleep last night before halftime; woke up thinking the Broncos would win, but kind of bummed to miss the festivities. Def missed most of the ads; the ones I saw were kinda “meh”.

    Was there any equivalent of left shark this year?

  74. 74.

    Peale

    February 8, 2016 at 11:19 am

    @the Conster, la Citoyenne:

    48. She did her law degree at Yale, and it’s a well-known “socialist finishing school.”

    LOL. I had completely forgotten that one. Oh the memories.

  75. 75.

    Davebo

    February 8, 2016 at 11:21 am

    Gong xi fa cai!

    If we are going to do Chinglesh I prefer Gong Hai Fat Choi!

    Regardless, here’s to a healthy and prosperous new year.

  76. 76.

    henqiguai

    February 8, 2016 at 11:33 am

    @Davebo(#75):

    If we are going to do Chinglesh I prefer Gong Hai Fat Choi!

    ‘Chinglish’? You say Cantonese, he say Mandarin.

  77. 77.

    D58826

    February 8, 2016 at 11:35 am

    @Peale: Then any politician who accepts money from any one making more than 100k per year has sold us out to some special interest or another. I agree that there is to much money floating around in the system, most of it unaccounted for but at the moment that is the way the system is set up. Which of the GOOPERs (and just about all of the democrats as well) is not beholden to one special interest or another. Adelson/Koch/defense contractors, the list goes on and on without even getting to wall Street. Christie’s wife works on wall street and Cruz’s wife took a leave of absence from Goldman. Of course that will have no impact on their decisions as president. And none of this touches on the revolving door between government agencies and the private sector. Or the congress criters who retire to become lobbyists or start a multi-million dollar ‘consulting firm’. Or the general who retire to become VP at a defense contractor in charge of the same weapon system they were in charge of at the Pentagon. It doesn’t matter how badly the weapon system performs, no active duty project manager will flag it because they will lose thew chance for that cushy post-retirement job. From that perspective and how it influences government policy the speaking fees are just lose change.

    My point was when Bill or Hillary do it it is a crime and rates a banner headline in the NYT. When any one else, esp. a gooper, does it well that’s just business as usual and hardly rates a mention. A recent non-financial example is the blasted e-mail server and the retroactively marked’ top secret’ documents. Condi’s folks sent top secret information to a private e-mail account, and so did Colin Powell. Powell has deleted all of his e-mail and the Bush WH sent a huge number of e-mails to non government accounts. E-mails that may have shed light on the US attorney scandal. Jeb used a private e-mail account and decided which to delete and which to make public. Hillary’s account requires multiple congressional investigations, an FBI investigation and a threat that if elected the Goopers will file articles of impeachment on Inauguration day. There are some folks demanding that even her personal e-mails be made public because you never know what evil they may contain.
    I guess I’m cynical about all of this because I lived thru the Clinton scandals of the 1990’s and after 8 years and 100+ million dollars all we found was a blue dress and a consensual blow job. As to the perjury charge, any other citizen would have invoked his 5th amendment rights and never appeared before the grand jury thus no testimony no perjury.

  78. 78.

    rikyrah

    February 8, 2016 at 1:02 pm

    @raven:

    LOOKS delicious

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