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You know it’s bad when the Project 2025 people have to create training videos on “How To Be Normal”.

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The new president of Mount St. Mary’s, a private Catholic college in Maryland, is a former businessman who worked at a number of banks and consulting firms, including Bain. He has a simple plan for dealing with underperforming freshmen:

This is hard for you because you think of the students as cuddly bunnies, but you can’t. You just have to drown the bunnies … put a Glock to their heads…

The provost who dissented from this modest proposal was canned (but kept his tenured faculty position). Two faculty members, one with tenure, were also canned, for insufficent loyalty.

Obviously, the guy’s an asshole — more importantly, as seems to be the case with many other Bain alums, he’s a stupid asshole. Mount St. Mary’s cost of attendance is a few bucks shy of $50K per year. As someone who recently went through a college search with my kid, I can attest that otherwise undistinguished private schools sell themselves in part by convincing parents that $50K will buy their precious snowflakes more of the individual attention they need to succeed in the big, bad world. Putting a Glock to the head of little Johnny or Mary the first time they go out and get so drunk that they miss an exam is not part of the sales literature of Mount St. Mary’s competitors. But if this guy wants to run a $50K scared straight boot camp, he’s certainly working to fill an otherwise unoccupied market niche. Perhaps the invisible hand of the unfettered free market will pull the trigger on its Glock of freedom and put the new president of Mount St. Mary’s out of its misery.

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  1. 1.

    Emma

    I wonder what the heck the Board of Trustees is doing letting this clown loose. Though in these days, aiding and abetting are reasonable assumptions.

  2. 2.

    WaterGirl

    Wow. At some point I have to stop being surprised, but wow. This cannot go over well with the parents.

  3. 3.

    Schlemazel (parmesan rancor)

    My guess is they think this asshole is a rainmaker and that there will be a heavy downpour of donations coming from alumni and like minded assholes..

  4. 4.

    Randy P

    This quote apparently came out in the student newspaper.

    And then the faculty advisor of the paper was fired, banned from campus, for unspecified “disloyalty”.

  7. 7.

    kindness

    Paradoxically the invisible hand of the free market will work. Watch as their enrollment drops like a stone.

  8. 8.

    AnotherBruce

    Way off topic, but the FBI is moving in on the fab four in The Malheur. It’s an unbelievable situation. Somehow the morons are communicating with an FBI phone, Michelle Fiore is right in the middle of the damn thing. It’s being broadcast through the net. I’m not good at links, but check out the Oregonian website.

  11. 11.

    AnotherBruce

    I listened to some of it. The FBI negotiator is named Mark, Fiore is furiously demanding that she be allowed to the refuge. David Fry is threatening all kinds of bullshit if Mark doesn’t let her in there. She’s basically interfering with an FBI arrest. She should go to jail for this.

  14. 14.

    Temporarily Max McGee (Soon Enough to Be Andy K Again)

    I’ve been listening to this Malheur thing for about an hour. Can’t wait ’til the remaining occupiers feel the caffeine and meth crash.

  15. 15.

    Smedley Darlington Prunebanks (formerly Mumphrey, et al.)

    I took six years to get through school. They sent me home twice, and I ended up graduating with a 2.50 G.P.A. And, shit, I was as lucky as hell. Lucky because my father ran one of the libraries at school, so was on the faculty–though he never had to step in and advocate for me–and because the school itself committed itself to its students. That was between 1986 and 1992. I assume it’s still the same today, since, well, schools are meant to be, you know, schools, and not some Wall Street counting house. Shit. I bet this asshole isn’t long for the job, and good riddance.

  16. 16.

    AnotherBruce

    Good, that they hung up. Mark totally ignored these morons throughout this, They are too stupid to know how much trouble that phone call put them in. But Fiore is the biggest moron of all.

  19. 19.

    Temporarily Max McGee (Soon Enough to Be Andy K Again)

    Yeah, softcore pr0n star Fiore is driving down from Portland to settle this. Uh huh.

  21. 21.

    a hip hop artist from Idaho (fka Bella Q)

    @SFAW: I sure as hell am. Now some attorney (he claims) is included in the call, saying “there are due processes available.”

  23. 23.

    a hip hop artist from Idaho (fka Bella Q)

    They just told Fiore that the FBI told them

    To put our guns down and come out with our hands up

    But we won’t surrender, Fry says. And we won’t come out; they want us to surrender.

    Now Fiore is babbling again.

  24. 24.

    SFAW

    @a hip hop artist from Idaho (fka Bella Q):

    Now some attorney (he claims) is included in the call, saying “there are due processes available.”

    Context? Is he telling that to the morons, in the hope that they’ll come out and let the system work? Or is he saying that on behalf of the morons, in an attempt to get the FBI to back off?

  26. 26.

    a hip hop artist from Idaho (fka Bella Q)

    @SFAW: It’s really hard to tell. There’s a lot of agitated screaming, and I’m not sure even if I could hear him I could tell.

    @Cheryl Rofer: Mrs. Anderson is screaming “they’re rolling forward.” Fiore is praying with her, and indeed trying to talk them down, while spouting nonsense at them. She’s just said “LaVoy was murdered.” Gaaah.

  27. 27.

    trollhattan

    Directly underneath the Oregon Live coverage is an article “Best Getaways” Too late for these morans.

  32. 32.

    Renie

    wow what whiners these patriots are…every other word is ‘they promised’ sound like 2 year olds

  34. 34.

    a hip hop artist from Idaho (fka Bella Q)

    @raven: For my sanity, if nothing else. I don’t have the self control to stop listening. Fiore is trying to talk them down while agreeing with their ideas. Fry is out of control, and needs a sedative.

  36. 36.

    Zinsky

    This notion that “education should be run like a business” simply galls me. Education is a public good that benefits everyone. Injecting the profit motive into a public good, just corrupts and poisons the well for everyone – it diminishes the outcomes. Robert Kuttner wrote a great book several years ago that asked the essential question, “Should Everything Be for Sale?” In the case of education, the answer is an unequivocal “No”!

  39. 39.

    Temporarily Max McGee (Soon Enough to Be Andy K Again)

    @Honus:

    I’ll take a pass on that. I’ve seen the trailer for her film. I keep thinking she has a vestigial tail.

  41. 41.

    Iowa Old Lady

    @Zinsky: I used to tell my GMI students that GM was not in the business of making cars. It was in the business of making money, and cars were a means to that end. That’s why things like education and health care should not be run like businesses.

  42. 42.

    a hip hop artist from Idaho (fka Bella Q)

    @raven: I’m not that smart; I’ve had a hideous week and deserve the torture. Good snoozing.

  45. 45.

    AnotherBruce

    Best comment at the Oregonian about the live phone feed. “I feel like a fly on the wall in a mental institution”

  46. 46.

    Schlemazel (parmesan rancor)

    @efgoldman:
    the cheese came from a thread a few days ago where someone misread ‘partisan rancor’ and I thought that would be a better nym. I was going to replace “schlemazel’ entirely but then I learned I am probably going to have to have more surgery so i kept both.

  47. 47.

    trollhattan

    @Honus:
    Whoa, she really lost her shit at some point.

    “This is my gun and these are my boobs
    One is for shootin’ and the other for rubes.”

  48. 48.

    beltane

    I don’t know whose crazier, the guy screaming on the Youtube feed or the wackos commenting on the youtube feed.

  55. 55.

    beltane

    They’re all going to pray right now. It is Ash Wednesday. Do these folks observe Ash Wednesday?

  57. 57.

    a hip hop artist from Idaho (fka Bella Q)

    Prayer time for a peaceful exit. We need your guidance. I think it was Fiore. She is trying to calm them down, but I’m not sure anything except pharmaceuticals will be effective.

  60. 60.

    AnotherBruce

    “We are law abiding citizens.” She just lied to Jesus.

    But yes, she is trying to talk them down.

  61. 61.

    Steve in the ATL

    Is there anybody stupider than sovereign citizens? Not one of their beliefs makes the least bit of sense.

  63. 63.

    Schlemazel (parmesan rancor)

    @CaseyL:
    Well, no laws that they themselves recognize. The laws they don’t agree with don’t count because they are not constitutional. This really isn’t that hard to understand

  64. 64.

    WaterGirl

    @Baud: I am wondering who is controlling the YouTube feed. The FBI? The crazies in the refuge? The reporter person on Twitter?

    edit: asked and answered, #61

  65. 65.

    a hip hop artist from Idaho (fka Bella Q)

    They don’t want to leave without their weapons. Fiore tells the screaming woman that she doesn’t need their weapons. But Fiore already lied to Jesus.

    They are delusional.

  69. 69.

    SFAW

    @CaseyL:

    What do they call occupying the refuge?

    I think it would be good fun — although somewhat morbid/sick — if someone dressed up as the Ghost of Dead Andy Breitbart (Who is Still Dead By The Way) and started yelling “Behave yourselves!” and “Stop raping people!” at the occupiers.

  71. 71.

    WaterGirl

    @Honus: I didn’t click the link because I was guessing the link would lead to the photo of the crazy family all dressed up with their guns. Thanks for confirming that I guessed right.

  73. 73.

    a hip hop artist from Idaho (fka Bella Q)

    Like a 2 year old, Sean Anderson wants to wait until tomorrow until Fiore (and maybe Graham) gets there. His wife is apeshit and screaming.

  77. 77.

    schrodinger's cat

    Just curious, have any other “protesters” been treated with kid gloves like these loons have? OWS protesters where manhandled and pepper sprayed on, if I remember correctly.

  81. 81.

    different-church-lady

    With luck, and a lot of persistence, the signature achievement of President Sanders will be the AEA (Affordable Education Act).

    Business schools have been unleashing MBAs to fuck up the rest of the world at an astonishing clip. It’s about time a chicken came home to fuck up a school.

  82. 82.

    beltane

    Real patriots would gladly go to prison on behalf of their beliefs. These people are not patriots of any kind, they are spoiled, entitled brats.

  85. 85.

    a hip hop artist from Idaho (fka Bella Q)

    If we go to jail we will never see the light of day again. Fiore is saying the FBI is refusing to negotiate with an elected official “that’s their bad.”

    I need a drink, or a dime bag, or both.

    @schrodinger’s cat: Indeed, but they were DFH, as opposed to good old boys.

    I’m not going to jail says Mrs. Anderson, for standing up for my rights.

  87. 87.

    Temporarily Max McGee (Soon Enough to Be Andy K Again)

    @schrodinger’s cat:

    Because these nuts have guns.

    And between you and me. OWS was really bad at controlling the narrative when the cops did manhandle and pepperspray them. But what do you expect form a large, leaderless movement?

  90. 90.

    Honus

    @WaterGirl: it’s worse than you imagine. They are in holiday garb. With infants. Next to the Christmas tree. Grandma is holding a sub machine gun.

  91. 91.

    CaseyL

    @efgoldman: Quite aside from the fact that the “government owns the land” in trust for all of us, if the land belongs to anyone other than the American people, it belongs to the Paiute.

  96. 96.

    WaterGirl

    @Honus: I think it’s the appalling photo I saw during the holidays. Not wiling to risk viewing again to be certain. If my dad were here, he would say: “it takes all kinds.” But damn, all these people are crazy.

    Edit: clearly not as non-judgmental as my dad was.

  99. 99.

    a hip hop artist from Idaho (fka Bella Q)

    @different-church-lady: So it seems. Jesus G*d. An elected official has just said unfortunately, because of our overreaching government, and she says “LaVoy got murdered.”

    Someone screamed that choppers are coming now. Prayer again. “Blackhawks are here now to kill us.” Sandy sobs.

  105. 105.

    Honus

    @Cheryl Rofer: when you’ve been repeatedly threatening to shoot it out with the authorities and die for your cause for a month or so, yeah, you’re probably not going to be allowed to walk through a police line with your AR-15.

  106. 106.

    Cheryl Rofer

    FBI: “No one will be allowed on the refuge until you come out peacefully.” This seems to be in reference to Fiore’s desire to come and be negotiator.

    Praying again. Fiore is doing everything she can to talk them down, but I think the little sanity she injected is wearing off.

  110. 110.

    Adam L Silverman

    @SFAW: That’s the attorney representing Ammon Bundy. He and his firm are currently under investigation for ethical violations in going to the refuge during the occupation and providing guidance on what they felt the occupiers could do that was and was not legal. Depending on how the complaint to the Oregon judicial ethics committee turns out, there’s a chance they themselves could be indicted as co-conspirators.

    As for Fiore, she and Cliven Bundy were supposed to travel to the refuge and meet with the four holdouts tomorrow. That was their announced plan. There is no way the FBI would allow either of them in, and if they managed to find a way in, there is no way the FBI would allow them out. In the case of Fiore, she had no immunity for anything she is doing as part of her job as a state legislator. Because what she’s doing is 1) outside of those duties, 2) not being conducted within her state’s actual legislature, and 3) she’s not a legislator in Oregon, so she can’t even claim constituent representation or service. If she decides to fully inject herself into this, even if she isn’t arrested, she is going to place incredible pressure on the Nevada GOP legislative leadership to expel her. Right now Jon Ralston is probably happy as a clam in mud that he now has material for his reporting for months and he doesn’t have to do any hard work to get it.

  113. 113.

    gene108

    Fiore’s actually doing a good job trying to relate to them and get them to agree to a peaceful end.

  114. 114.

    SFAW

    @dedc79:

    The way the GOP is heading, Fiore is going to get the nomination in 2020.

    Why wait? She might just be the person that the Rethug “establishment” has been pinin’ for.

  116. 116.

    AnotherBruce

    God, I had to shut it down for awhile. The world these loons live in is a very dark and paranoid place.I’ll check in later.

  119. 119.

    beltane

    @redshirt: The #1 issue in last night’s Democratic primary was income inequality so it’s a mistake to think OWS vanished without a trace.

  120. 120.

    chrome agnomen

    ‘we robbed that bank, and we want to give up, but they won’t even compromise on this one little thing: that we get to keep all the money and not go to jail.’

  122. 122.

    a hip hop artist from Idaho (fka Bella Q)

    They’re bitching that the FBI says “the time for concessions has passed.” Would it be in poor taste to be “just shoot me,” which is my current request. Because I insist on good taste, or at least try to do it myself.

    Sandy “I’m not going to jail. No.”

  126. 126.

    WaterGirl

    @efgoldman: Sorry, I should have said: do you not know the origin of the Schlimazel part of his nym?

    He changed his nym to Schlimazel after a series of shitty stuff happened to him. He can explain better himself, I’m sure, but my understanding is that Schlimazel = a cconsistently unlucky person.

    So… he’s thinking of changing his nym to parmesan rancor, only to find out that he may have to have yet another surgery, so he decided not to drop Schlimazel from his nym. That was my take on his comment, anyway.

  130. 130.

    trollhattan

    @gene108:
    I know the prayer intimately.

    “O LORD, bless this Thy hand grenade that with it Thou mayest blow Thine enemies to tiny bits, in Thy mercy.” And the LORD did grin and the people did feast upon the lambs and sloths and carp and anchovies and orangutans and breakfast cereals, and fruit bats and large chu… [skip a bit, brother]… And the LORD spake, saying, “First shalt thou take out the Holy Pin, then shalt thou count to three, no more, no less. Three shall be the number thou shalt count, and the number of the counting shall be three. Four shalt thou not count, neither count thou two, excepting that thou then proceed to three. Five is right out. Once the number three, being the third number, be reached, then lobbest thou thy Holy Hand Grenade of Antioch towards thy foe, who being naughty in My sight, shall snuff it.”

  131. 131.

    Steve in the ATL

    Sandy: “I am not going to court. I know what they do in court.”

    It turns out I do have something in common with this idiot after all

  132. 132.

    a hip hop artist from Idaho (fka Bella Q)

    Now Franklin Graham has lied to them, it seems.

    I hope Arnold and his firm are found to have solicited them. Fiore follows this constitutional sheriff shit. Though she is trying to come them down.

  133. 133.

    redshirt

    @beltane: Left wing violence is near non-existent; right wing violence is prevalent, growing, and seemingly protected to a degree, and no one’s allowed to track it or even comment on it. There’s a systemic imbalance here and money(power) is the only explanation.

  136. 136.

    Mj_Oregon

    @different-church-lady:
    I know. I resisted but finally clicked in. It’s a bit better now. David Fry has run out of steam for the moment and isn’t screaming in the background.

    It appears the “patriots” have been working on an “extraction” plan for these people that was to go down tomorrow or Friday. Plus Fiore was coming to town and Cliven was expected to be there too. Seems the FBI’s hand was forced tonight because of that. Plus it’s been cold and very foggy over there so favorable weather conditions.

    Fiore is actually doing a fairly good job of keeping them calmer now.

  137. 137.

    gene108

    Gandhi and MLK did not flinch from going to jail, because they were standing up for their rights against an unjust system.

    Fuck these guys. What losers.

  141. 141.

    gene108

    God is watching (per the right-wingers holding out at the refuge) and thinking, “Fuck! I shouldn’t have saved Noah and his family. I should’ve just started fucking over with creating sentient beings.”

  142. 142.

    WaterGirl

    @a hip hop artist from Idaho (fka Bella Q): My first thought that was the ambulance might just add a bit of reality to the situation. Maybe they should ask everybody inside for their blood type, too?

    edit: my last line was uncalled for and surely not helpful when at least two of the four people are close to hysterical. I am actually concerned that one of the hysterical people might shoot everyone else, and then shoot his/her self.

  145. 145.

    a hip hop artist from Idaho (fka Bella Q)

    Fiore doesn’t understand that the time for negotiation is long past. She’s also said the FBI is breaking the law (or words with that sort of gist).

  146. 146.

    trollhattan

    @WaterGirl:
    Oh, I wish. Tis Brother Maynard’s recitation from the Book of Armaments in the “Holy Grail,” as the knights confront the Rabbit of Caerbannog. The Holy Hand Grenade of Antioch comes to the rescue, but only after the reciting.

  147. 147.

    gene108

    WTF is wrong with these people. They are willing to die in a blaze of glory, but are too chicken shit to go to jail and live to fight another day.

  151. 151.

    a hip hop artist from Idaho (fka Bella Q)

    @gene108: But they don’t believe they’ve done anything wrong. Armed occupation of federal property is nothing wrong. Gaaaah.

    Right wing terrorism on display, broadcast live.

  154. 154.

    Temporarily Max McGee (Soon Enough to Be Andy K Again)

    @redshirt:

    Because the dead people at Ruby Ridge and Waco- including children- make for more gruesome political theater than do pepper-sprayed protesters.

    There’s a reason that the brutal, often fatal treatment of Civil Rights demonstrators worked so effectively in accomplishing the goals of the movement. Kent State was more effective in ending US involvement the Vietnam War than all of the protests that preceded it. When the government force is perceived to be making such a heavy-handed attempt to quell protests, it will lose its public support.

  156. 156.

    gene108

    Michelle Fiore is conducting a suicide intervention with 5 potentially suicidal people simultaneously. That’s basically this live stream is.

  157. 157.

    Mj_Oregon

    @Gin & Tonic:

    He’s a self-described “Patriot” constitutionalist from Washington state and calls himself a “Liberty Speaker.” I don’t believe he insinuated himself into the situation at the refuge before Lavoy was shot. I haven’t heard his name before tonight. His website is here.

    Fiore is talking to Jeff Banta now.

  159. 159.

    Temporarily Max McGee (Soon Enough to Be Andy K Again)

    @redshirt:

    Sure, but even the Finicum shooting- which looks justifiable to damned near everyone who’s watched the video and knows the movement’s history- stirs up the fucking crazoids. And if you can keep it at one death, you won’t get more of the fucking crazoids popping up and doing theis elsewhere in short time.

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