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You are here: Home / Elections / Election 2016 / Evening results open thread

Evening results open thread

by David Anderson|  March 5, 20167:49 pm| 357 Comments

This post is in: Election 2016, Open Threads, All we want is life beyond the thunderdome

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The afternoon results are in. Anti trump strategic voting seems to have been going on in Maine. Cruz has had a very good weekend.

And now we wait for the evening results.

Be excellent to each other.

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  1. 1.

    BillinGlendaleCA

    March 5, 2016 at 7:52 pm

    Be excellent to each other.

    Why should we start doing that now?

  2. 2.

    Baud

    March 5, 2016 at 7:53 pm

    @BillinGlendaleCA: Yeah, it feels creepy.

  3. 3.

    Anoniminous

    March 5, 2016 at 7:54 pm

    Be excellent to each other.

    GROUP HUG TIME!!!!

  4. 4.

    Baud

    March 5, 2016 at 7:54 pm

    Is it time to engage in the debate over whether we would prefer to face Cruz or Trump?

  5. 5.

    Iowa Old Lady

    March 5, 2016 at 7:55 pm

    @BillinGlendaleCA: Bill and Ted got that one right though.

  6. 6.

    sophronia

    March 5, 2016 at 7:55 pm

    My relative who used to work for Heritage Foundation rarely sends out anything political on Facebook … but today, I noticed four separate posts, all linking to anti-Trump articles in the conservative media. So I guess the ground troops have been mobilized.

  7. 7.

    PaulW

    March 5, 2016 at 7:56 pm

    I just want to see a majority of Florida Republican voters put in a protest vote for Lindsey Graham, and screw the pollsters.

  8. 8.

    Just One More Canuck

    March 5, 2016 at 7:57 pm

    Party on, dude

  9. 9.

    BillinGlendaleCA

    March 5, 2016 at 7:58 pm

    @Iowa Old Lady: For the record: I will have nothing to do with Ted Cruz.

  10. 10.

    Adam L Silverman

    March 5, 2016 at 8:00 pm

    @BillinGlendaleCA: You may not be interested in Ted Cruz, but Ted Cruz may be interested in you…

  11. 11.

    Baud

    March 5, 2016 at 8:00 pm

    @Adam L Silverman:

    Not really. Bill didn’t go to a good enough Ivy.

  12. 12.

    JPL

    March 5, 2016 at 8:01 pm

    @sophronia: haha.. You should add a note mentioning that Bobby Jindal said that Americans were ready for a President who spoke in 3 word declarative sentences.

  13. 13.

    Adam L Silverman

    March 5, 2016 at 8:02 pm

    @Baud: Don’t be elitist.

  14. 14.

    I'mNotSureWhoIWantToBeYet

    March 5, 2016 at 8:02 pm

    The Nebraska Secretary of State page for election results isn’t especially helpful. (It shows results from 2014…)

    Cheers,
    Scott.

  15. 15.

    BillinGlendaleCA

    March 5, 2016 at 8:03 pm

    @Baud: I did spend two nights in an Ivy’s dorm(one that I’m sure Ted would approve of), but I’m totally a public school kind of guy.

    (My roommate of 3 years from undergrad went to an Ivy law school and I visited.)

  16. 16.

    PsiFighter37

    March 5, 2016 at 8:03 pm

    The Republicans absolutely hate Cruz, though.

    Given that it appears Rubio is sinking like a stone, they’re probably going to have to swallow their pride and get behind Tailgunner Ted if he manages to pull it off.

    I think that Trump probably wins Louisiana running away, and Kentucky shows a slight Trump lead. But if it comes down to a Trump v. Cruz bonanza, I think Trump still wins based on the states left – and the establishment will still be in absolute chaos.

    Lulz. They deserve an asshole like Cruz or a liar/fraud like Donald.

  17. 17.

    BillinGlendaleCA

    March 5, 2016 at 8:07 pm

    @PsiFighter37: It could get better, especially if Marco wins enough votes to deny either tRump or Failgunner Ted the nomination of the first ballot and Marco and Ted gang up on tRump.

  18. 18.

    scav

    March 5, 2016 at 8:08 pm

    Stong signs of political Global Warming “Why, this is very midsummer madness.” and it’s only March. We’ve also got Snout walking about

    In this same interlude it doth befall
    That I, one Snout by name, present a wall;
    And such a wall, as I would have you think,
    That had in it a crannied hole or chink,
    Through which the lovers, Pyramus and Thisby,
    Did whisper often very secretly.
    This loam, this rough-cast and this stone doth show
    That I am that same wall; the truth is so: 2005
    And this the cranny is, right and sinister,
    Through which the fearful lovers are to whisper.

    Can’t wait for the other mechanicals

  19. 19.

    Ultraviolet Thunder

    March 5, 2016 at 8:10 pm

    @BillinGlendaleCA:

    For the record: I will have nothing to do with Ted Cruz.

    I have Tuesday off for the MI open primary. I know I should get a R ballot and vote for Cruz but these are my neighbors at the polling place. I’m not sure I could look anyone in the eye after that.

  20. 20.

    debbie

    March 5, 2016 at 8:10 pm

    @PsiFighter37:

    I don’t think the GOP is capable of forgiving Cruz for his transgressions. It might be fun to watch them faking enthusiasm for him as a nominee.

  21. 21.

    The Dangerman

    March 5, 2016 at 8:10 pm

    @PsiFighter37:

    They deserve an asshole like Cruz or a liar/fraud like Donald.

    Maybe Rubio and Kasich have to stay in to pick off a few states so they can get to a brokered convention somehow. Cruz or Trump is roughly a cianide or bullet choice for many on the Right.

  22. 22.

    West of the Cascades

    March 5, 2016 at 8:11 pm

    @PsiFighter37: Kasich could win Michigan on Tuesday and winner-take-all Ohio, Cruz might do well in North Carolina and Mississippi (maybe not beating Trump but siphoning off some delegates). It seems there’s a pretty good chance that Trump won’t get the majority of delegates needed for a first-ballot win at the convention if Cruz, Kasich and Rubio stay in through March, and then Cruz stays in through the convention.

  23. 23.

    BillinGlendaleCA

    March 5, 2016 at 8:12 pm

    @Ultraviolet Thunder: We have closed primaries out here in CA, so I have no worries about that happening.

  24. 24.

    schrodinger's cat

    March 5, 2016 at 8:14 pm

    @Anoniminous: Boo, hiss.

  25. 25.

    Joel

    March 5, 2016 at 8:14 pm

    Cruz takes Kansas, but from the AP, it looks like Trump is going to win Kentucky and is currently leading in Maine. Not sure this week’s events had any effect (other than forcing Rubio further out into third place).

  26. 26.

    Baud

    March 5, 2016 at 8:15 pm

    @Joel: Bronze is best.

  27. 27.

    Ultraviolet Thunder

    March 5, 2016 at 8:15 pm

    @BillinGlendaleCA:
    MI’s open primary has a history of rodent fornicating events. For instance George Wallace won the ’72 primary here for reasons having nothing to do with the GOP’s support.

    ETA:
    https://www.michigandaily.com/content/michigan-primary-has-long-history-quirkiness

  28. 28.

    Felanius Kootea

    March 5, 2016 at 8:16 pm

    @Baud: Only a Republican could love Cruz’s punchable face. I’d much rather have Hillary face him in the general. There’d be debate questions like “What will you do to help people who have cancer and no insurance in medicaid non-expansion states?” and he would reply “Remove the last sixty years of failed left wing policies, especially the job-killing Obamacare.” It would be a blowout. Trump would at least have the sense to say something that made him look human.

  29. 29.

    scav

    March 5, 2016 at 8:16 pm

    @scav: oh oh, more stand-ins for the debates! (only less painful)

    “Puppet”? Why so?—Ay, that way goes the game.
    Now I perceive that she hath made compare
    Between our statures. She hath urged her height,
    And with her personage, her tall personage,
    Her height, forsooth, she hath prevailed with him.—
    And are you grown so high in his esteem
    Because I am so dwarfish and so low?
    How low am I, thou painted maypole? Speak.
    How low am I? I am not yet so low
    But that my nails can reach unto thine eyes.

    “Get you gone you dwarf!”

  30. 30.

    BillinGlendaleCA

    March 5, 2016 at 8:17 pm

    @Baud: Winning!!!

  31. 31.

    amk

    March 5, 2016 at 8:19 pm

    the pool getting shallower and nastier.

  32. 32.

    Van Buren

    March 5, 2016 at 8:19 pm

    That sound you hear is me screaming at the thought that Cruz ‘ s chances for the nomination are getting better, and that many Democrats think this is a good thing.

  33. 33.

    Ruviana

    March 5, 2016 at 8:19 pm

    @BillinGlendaleCA: I thought they’d made them open. Did they close them again? (Exiled Californian here).

  34. 34.

    BillinGlendaleCA

    March 5, 2016 at 8:20 pm

    @Felanius Kootea:

    Trump would at least have the sense to say something that made him look human.

    So basically, he’d lie. His healthcare plan is essentially the same as the other Rethuglicans.

  35. 35.

    sigaba

    March 5, 2016 at 8:21 pm

    Be excellent to each other.

    Jim Sikking behind the podium telling me to be safe…

  36. 36.

    lamh36

    March 5, 2016 at 8:21 pm

    No watching the results come in on tv tonight. I’m on nanny duty!

    I’m stuck watching Sofia the Great and something called Jake and the Never Land Pirates on Netflix.

    Guess who’s hanging with me today…Maddie!!!

  37. 37.

    BillinGlendaleCA

    March 5, 2016 at 8:22 pm

    @Ruviana: No, we still have the “Jungle Primaries” which are open. Presidential primaries are party operations and have always been closed.

  38. 38.

    Baud

    March 5, 2016 at 8:22 pm

    @lamh36: Much better than hanging out with Trump and Cruz.

  39. 39.

    JMG

    March 5, 2016 at 8:23 pm

    Winning Kansas and Maine doesn’t Cruz closer to the nomination (Louisiana might). It just keeps Trump from getting closer himself. A

  40. 40.

    BillinGlendaleCA

    March 5, 2016 at 8:25 pm

    @Baud: But hanging out with Baud!2016!!! would be the best.

  41. 41.

    MomSense

    March 5, 2016 at 8:25 pm

    @BillinGlendaleCA:

    I may have spent a night or two in an Ivy dorm but don’t tell my kids -or my dad.

  42. 42.

    Ultraviolet Thunder

    March 5, 2016 at 8:25 pm

    @Van Buren:
    The idea of Dems voting for Cruz is to c0ck block Trump from getting enough delegates to win on the first ballot. Chaos and hilarity ensue. But not all of us have stomachs that strong.

  43. 43.

    Baud

    March 5, 2016 at 8:28 pm

    @BillinGlendaleCA: I’ll have a special Balloon Juice inaugural ball if I win.

  44. 44.

    Felanius Kootea

    March 5, 2016 at 8:28 pm

    @BillinGlendaleCA: His lying has gotten him pretty far – why would he stop?

  45. 45.

    Miss Bianca

    March 5, 2016 at 8:29 pm

    @Joel:

    Trump is leading in Maine? I thought I heard that Sen. Cruz was leading there. Not that I *want* him to be leading there, mind.

    And what’s this about Kasich leading in MI? Kasich is the one that scares me worst of all – because he could, just possibly, sell himself to the general electorate as the “not insane” Republican.

    Oh, and best political button I’ve seen so far (at the local caucuses): “Vote Democrat. We may not be perfect, but they’re nuts”.

    @scav:

    Where/who the hell is Bottom? ; )

  46. 46.

    BillinGlendaleCA

    March 5, 2016 at 8:31 pm

    @Baud: Just don’t call it the “BJ Inaugural Ball”, folk might get the wrong idea.

  47. 47.

    Felonius Monk

    March 5, 2016 at 8:31 pm

    Rage Furby claims to have identified Marco Rubio’s mistresses(2) and has named names. Given his propensity for being both a fvckng Idiot and totally wrong, I wouldn’t put much credence in it, but you never know.

    No links, because. You know why.

  48. 48.

    Major Major Major Major

    March 5, 2016 at 8:32 pm

    Seven-day chip! Whoo!

    Oh and I quit drinking.

  49. 49.

    BillinGlendaleCA

    March 5, 2016 at 8:32 pm

    @Miss Bianca: That’s almost as good as: “Vote for the Crook, It’s That Important!”.

  50. 50.

    BillinGlendaleCA

    March 5, 2016 at 8:33 pm

    @Major Major Major Major: Good for you, it’s been 5 1/2 years for me.

  51. 51.

    Miss Bianca

    March 5, 2016 at 8:33 pm

    @lamh36:

    Sweetness!

  52. 52.

    MomSense

    March 5, 2016 at 8:34 pm

    @Major Major Major Major:

    Congratulations!!

  53. 53.

    Baud

    March 5, 2016 at 8:34 pm

    @Major Major Major Major: Excellent.

  54. 54.

    Ben Cisco

    March 5, 2016 at 8:35 pm

    @BillinGlendaleCA: Too late.

  55. 55.

    Miss Bianca

    March 5, 2016 at 8:35 pm

    @BillinGlendaleCA: LOL! Is that one directed at Sanders supporters? ; )

    @Major Major Major Major: Congrats, I just gave up smoking “Colorado tobacco”…

  56. 56.

    hilts

    March 5, 2016 at 8:35 pm

    Louis C.K.’s appeal for people to stop voting for Trump:

    “Please stop it with voting for Trump. It was funny for a little while. But the guy is Hitler. And by that I mean that we are being Germany in the 30s. Do you think they saw the shit coming? Hitler was just some hilarious and refreshing dude with a weird comb over who would say anything at all.

    And I’m not advocating for Hillary or Bernie. I like them both but frankly I wish the next president was a conservative only because we had Obama for eight years and we need balance. And not because I particularly enjoy the conservative agenda. I just think the government should reflect the people. And we are about 40 percent conservative and 40 percent liberal. When I was growing up and when I was a younger man, liberals and conservatives were friends with differences. They weren’t enemies.”

    … Trump is a messed up guy with a hole in his heart that he tries to fill with money and attention. He can never ever have enough of either and he’ll never stop trying. He’s sick. Which makes him really really interesting. And he pulls you towards him which somehow feels good or fascinatingly bad. He’s not a monster. He’s a sad man. But all this makes him horribly dangerous if he becomes president. Give him another TV show. Let him pay to put his name on buildings. But please stop voting for him. And please watch Horace and Pete.”

    h/t http://variety.com/2016/tv/news/louis-c-k-donald-trump-insane-bigot-dangerous-1201723679

  57. 57.

    MomSense

    March 5, 2016 at 8:36 pm

    @lamh36:

    You are definitely “the cool aunt” in your family. Glad you are having fun.

  58. 58.

    Ben Cisco

    March 5, 2016 at 8:36 pm

    @Major Major Major Major: Good on ya!

  59. 59.

    Felanius Kootea

    March 5, 2016 at 8:38 pm

    Just got an email from Bernie’s campaign (I get emails from both Dem campaigns since I’ve donated to both) – he won the Kansas caucuses.

  60. 60.

    Kay

    March 5, 2016 at 8:41 pm

    @Miss Bianca:

    And what’s this about Kasich leading in MI?

    Every time I count on one of these people to stop another, they cannot. It doesn’t matter which one it is- I was counting on Trump to stop Kasich. They’re all useless to me in every way :)

  61. 61.

    danielx

    March 5, 2016 at 8:42 pm

    Open thread, eh?

    Why are cliches called cliches? Because they’re true all the time….

    Bayh to co-chair No Labels

    Color me unsurprised, except that in my man Evan’s case the label ought to be plutocrat apologist. No Labels, my ass….

    …After leaving the Senate, he became a partner with the law and lobbying firm McGuireWoods in the firm’s Washington, D.C., office,[1] and also became a senior adviser with Apollo Global Management. He was hired as a Fox News contributor in March 2011.[2] In June 2011 he became a messaging adviser for the U.S. Chamber of Commerce.[3] On October 27, 2011, it was announced that Berry Plastics Corp. appointed Bayh to its board of directors.[4] Bayh also serves on the board of directors of Marathon Petroleum, the 2011 spin-off from Marathon Oil..

  62. 62.

    Baud

    March 5, 2016 at 8:45 pm

    Why is the Maine GOP announcing results when MSNBC is saying only 12% in?

  63. 63.

    Ruviana

    March 5, 2016 at 8:45 pm

    @BillinGlendaleCA: Thanks, that was what I was thinking of. And note to @Raven–the picture person is “Marvel.”

    ETA: the “garden picture” person if it wasn’t clear.

  64. 64.

    Baud

    March 5, 2016 at 8:46 pm

    I’m always amazed at how few people actually vote in primaries.

  65. 65.

    MomSense

    March 5, 2016 at 8:46 pm

    @Baud:

    This is embarrassing. They are just cheering for the name of their counties.

  66. 66.

    Mike J

    March 5, 2016 at 8:46 pm

    @Felanius Kootea: Nate says the KDP called it, but google doesn’t have results yet.

    528 also says that if Sanders and Clinton were tied nationally:

    Sanders would win Kansas by 18 percentage points and Nebraska by 17 percentage points, but lose Louisiana by 28 percentage points. Keep in mind, however, that Sanders has fallen well behind pace in the delegate race and will need to not just match but beat those targets as we go forward through the primary calendar.

  67. 67.

    raven

    March 5, 2016 at 8:47 pm

    @Ruviana: Oh, I sent the link to Anne.

  68. 68.

    Mike J

    March 5, 2016 at 8:47 pm

    @Mike J: Grrr 538. Stupid editor won’t let me edit.

  69. 69.

    Baud

    March 5, 2016 at 8:48 pm

    @MomSense:

    Waldo woo-hoo!!!

  70. 70.

    MomSense

    March 5, 2016 at 8:48 pm

    @Baud:

    Where?

  71. 71.

    BillinGlendaleCA

    March 5, 2016 at 8:49 pm

    @Miss Bianca: Heh, Edwin Edwards.

  72. 72.

    Baud

    March 5, 2016 at 8:49 pm

    @MomSense:

    Did I get my geography wrong?

  73. 73.

    sacrablue

    March 5, 2016 at 8:50 pm

    @Baud: Do we all have to wear green? I look like crap in green.

  74. 74.

    Applejinx

    March 5, 2016 at 8:50 pm

    @Major Major Major Major: Awesome! Remember, you can still be as difficult as you like on Balloon Juice. I’m over 20 years clean/sober and wouldn’t go back for anything.

  75. 75.

    danielx

    March 5, 2016 at 8:50 pm

    Why is WP eating my comments?

  76. 76.

    Jeffro

    March 5, 2016 at 8:51 pm

    @debbie: Remember nominating Cruz does not mean the end of the GOP but nominating trump does … They will be enthused enough

  77. 77.

    Baud

    March 5, 2016 at 8:51 pm

    @sacrablue: Don’t you want to match the balloons?

  78. 78.

    MomSense

    March 5, 2016 at 8:51 pm

    @Baud:

    No it was a dumb Where’s Waldo joke.

    BTW Cruz won the same week our Governor endorsed Trump.

  79. 79.

    Kay

    March 5, 2016 at 8:51 pm

    @Jeffro:

    Ted Cruz is too much to hope for.

  80. 80.

    BillinGlendaleCA

    March 5, 2016 at 8:52 pm

    @MomSense: That’s the point of the game.

  81. 81.

    Applejinx

    March 5, 2016 at 8:52 pm

    @BillinGlendaleCA: Do they still make those buttons? We might really need them ;)

  82. 82.

    Baud

    March 5, 2016 at 8:52 pm

    @MomSense:

    Why did he endorse Cruz over Trump?

  83. 83.

    MomSense

    March 5, 2016 at 8:53 pm

    @Baud:

    He endorsed Trump and they had a big rally together in Portland.

  84. 84.

    Ruviana

    March 5, 2016 at 8:54 pm

    @raven: Anne writes the posts but Marvel seems to be credited with most of the pictures. I often wish Marvel would comment more.

  85. 85.

    Baud

    March 5, 2016 at 8:55 pm

    @MomSense:

    Gotcha. And you think that helped Cruz?

  86. 86.

    Anoniminous

    March 5, 2016 at 8:55 pm

    @Kay:

    HuffPo has Michigan Mar 8 (Proportional):

    Donald Trump 37.0%
    Ted Cruz 16.5%
    Marco Rubio 15.5%
    John Kasich 13.4%

    The story about Kasich leading in Michigan comes from one ARG poll that is a total outlier.

    and Ohio Mar 15 (Winner Take All):

    Donald Trump 31.0%
    John Kasich 27.5%
    Ted Cruz 20.9%
    Marco Rubio 7.0%

  87. 87.

    Davis X. Machina

    March 5, 2016 at 8:55 pm

    L@MomSense:

    LePage endorsed Christie, then Trump.

    Given that half of his own party hates LePage, there’s a non-trivial anti-Trump tranche of GOP voters to be won. Cruz would appear to be winning them.

    No obvious moderate in the race, either.
    (Rubio’s no moderate, Kasich is unknown, and Cruz was here last week.)

  88. 88.

    Jeffro

    March 5, 2016 at 8:56 pm

    @Kay: oh absolutely…he terrifies me, but I’m coming around to the thought that he’d be the easiest GOP loon to beat this fall.

    But whew, the stakes…

  89. 89.

    sacrablue

    March 5, 2016 at 8:56 pm

    @Baud: No, I would much rather complement them.

  90. 90.

    magurakurin

    March 5, 2016 at 8:57 pm

    The caucus system is stupid. It needs to die.

  91. 91.

    BillinGlendaleCA

    March 5, 2016 at 8:57 pm

    I got a new printer yesterday. I spent 4 hours last night trying to get it to take my Kirkland photo paper.

    (I figured out how to get it to work.)

    ETA: I guess I also figured out why it was half price.

  92. 92.

    Kay

    March 5, 2016 at 8:58 pm

    @Jeffro:

    he’d be the easiest GOP loon to beat this fall.

    Yup. That’s why he’s too much to hope for :)

    One of the pundits described him as “sour”. I think it’s the perfect word for him.

  93. 93.

    Baud

    March 5, 2016 at 9:00 pm

    @sacrablue:

    Go crazy. We’ll all be too wasted to care.

  94. 94.

    The Dangerman

    March 5, 2016 at 9:00 pm

    Cruz easier to beat than Trump? I don’t think so. Cruz, to me, is far more electable.

    Recall, there was a time when we probably all said “George W. Bush? NFW”.Cruz could be Dubya.

    Trumps just a clown.

  95. 95.

    Mike J

    March 5, 2016 at 9:01 pm

    The important contests today:
    Tottenham 1 – 1 Arsenal
    Watford 0 – 1 Leicester City

    That puts Leicester 5 points clear of Tottenham (and eight clear of Arse) at the top of the table with nine games to play.

  96. 96.

    BillinGlendaleCA

    March 5, 2016 at 9:03 pm

    @The Dangerman: Dubya you could have a beer with; with Cruz, you’d want to throw the beer in his face and then punch him in the face.

  97. 97.

    BillinGlendaleCA

    March 5, 2016 at 9:03 pm

    @The Dangerman:

    Trumps just a clown.

    As was the Governator.

  98. 98.

    debbie

    March 5, 2016 at 9:03 pm

    @Anoniminous:

    If only Kasich would come in second!

  99. 99.

    MomSense

    March 5, 2016 at 9:04 pm

    @Baud: @Davis X. Machina:

    Probably in York and Cumberland counties it did.

    It’s impossible for me to “get inside the minds” of Republicans. At this point I don’t even want to drive by. My Mom just called me. She is NOT a Republican so she doesn’t have to decide between these jerks but she honestly can’t decide whether she hates Trump or Cruz more.

  100. 100.

    Mary G

    March 5, 2016 at 9:04 pm

    I just want to see the Republican primary go as long and as messy as possible, because you know voters have short memories and won’t remember the fail after months of anti-Hillary ads.

  101. 101.

    Kay

    March 5, 2016 at 9:04 pm

    @The Dangerman:

    I think Clinton would rather have Cruz because he’s a known quantity. She knows exactly what he’ll say.

  102. 102.

    The Dangerman

    March 5, 2016 at 9:05 pm

    @BillinGlendaleCA:

    As was the Governator.

    True, but Ahhhhhhnold only got to be the Governor because of the recall.

  103. 103.

    BillinGlendaleCA

    March 5, 2016 at 9:06 pm

    @The Dangerman: True, he’d never be able to win an open CA Republican primary.

  104. 104.

    I'mNotSureWhoIWantToBeYet

    March 5, 2016 at 9:06 pm

    Berniacs are upset that Kansas has been declared for Bernie but with no numbers. One across the room from me is convinced that it’s an attempt by the Party to help Hillary in Louisiana. And she’s furious with the press for not covering Bernie’s win.

    Grr.

    I’ll be happy/happier when we have a nominee. I hope anyway! :-/

    Cheers,
    Scott.

  105. 105.

    BillinGlendaleCA

    March 5, 2016 at 9:07 pm

    @Kay: True; Ted’s a standard issue Republican with an extra helping of God thrown in.

  106. 106.

    BillinGlendaleCA

    March 5, 2016 at 9:08 pm

    @I’mNotSureWhoIWantToBeYet: Don’t need to actually count the ballots or anything…

  107. 107.

    Anoniminous

    March 5, 2016 at 9:10 pm

    @debbie:

    One of those jerks has to get above 20% support otherwise Trump is going to walk away with all the Michigan delegates.

  108. 108.

    Baud

    March 5, 2016 at 9:13 pm

    NE announced for Bernie.

  109. 109.

    Calouste

    March 5, 2016 at 9:13 pm

    @BillinGlendaleCA: Ted’s not a standard issue Republican, considering that Republicans are willing to violate Saint Ronnie’s 11th commandment with regards to Ted.

  110. 110.

    I'mNotSureWhoIWantToBeYet

    March 5, 2016 at 9:14 pm

    @The Dangerman: I think even the most partisan Teabagger will think twice before giving the most powerful elected office in the world to someone who has never held any elected office.

    But I might be dreaming…

    I recall that the GOP fought Reagan like mad for quite a while before it was clear that he was going to be the nominee in 1980. Just like their voters, most of the party apparatus would fall in line behind Cruz if he wins, too. Reagan mended fences by picking GHWB as his running mate. Cruz could do something like that too, or something that appeared to be fence-mending.

    Politicians, no matter their stripes, want to win. They’ll do what they can to maximize their chances. Cruz is no different.

    Cheers,
    Scott.

  111. 111.

    Chris

    March 5, 2016 at 9:14 pm

    @hilts:

    I like them both but frankly I wish the next president was a conservative only because we had Obama for eight years and we need balance. And not because I particularly enjoy the conservative agenda. I just think the government should reflect the people.

    Ah, fucking Christ. I can’t even with this shit.

  112. 112.

    Anya

    March 5, 2016 at 9:15 pm

    Sanders won Nebraska & Kansas but Michael Moore told me red state wins don’t matter.

  113. 113.

    Kay

    March 5, 2016 at 9:15 pm

    @BillinGlendaleCA:

    He wants to cut Medicare and has a huge tax cut for the top. Huge. He’s also extremely.. unappealing :)

    I would be thrilled if he were the nominee.

    Clinton is promoting Party-building at her speech Michigan, which is smart. “In every state…”

  114. 114.

    BillinGlendaleCA

    March 5, 2016 at 9:16 pm

    @Calouste: I disagree, he’s a standard issue Republican but his personality is so vile that Republicans are willing to violate St. Ronnie’s 11th commandment(which was actually first formulated by the head of the CA Republican party back in the early 60’s, not St. Ronnie).

    ETA: Reagan’s 11th Commandment

  115. 115.

    Ultraviolet Thunder

    March 5, 2016 at 9:17 pm

    @Chris:

    “I just think the government should reflect the people”

    Yeah I read the whole thing. If 25% of the public are dunderheads does that mean we have to have an idiot President one term out of four? Come on, let’s think through this.

  116. 116.

    p.a.

    March 5, 2016 at 9:19 pm

    @sacrablue: I thought Baud was a reform Dem, not a Green!

    Big tent I guess…

  117. 117.

    BillinGlendaleCA

    March 5, 2016 at 9:19 pm

    @Anya:

    red state wins don’t matter.

    Guy running for President in 2008 DIDN’T believe in that, wonder what happened to him?

  118. 118.

    SiubhanDuinne

    March 5, 2016 at 9:20 pm

    I do love the jolly caucus race.

  119. 119.

    Richard Mayhew

    March 5, 2016 at 9:21 pm

    @Major Major Major Major: congrats and best of luck/good vibes sent your way

  120. 120.

    BillinGlendaleCA

    March 5, 2016 at 9:22 pm

    @p.a.: I thought he was Orthodox.

  121. 121.

    SiubhanDuinne

    March 5, 2016 at 9:23 pm

    Why in the ever-loving blue-eyed world would my comment at (roughly) #118 be in moderation? Does FYWP have something against links to Disney? Or the word “Caucus”? WTF, FYWP??

  122. 122.

    Davebo

    March 5, 2016 at 9:24 pm

    @BillinGlendaleCA: 4 hours?? Did you RTFM?

  123. 123.

    Anya

    March 5, 2016 at 9:25 pm

    @Chris: Such a stupid thing to say. What is he proposing, that Dems and Republicans take turn running the country? Does he not pay attention to republican’s destructive policies?

  124. 124.

    p.a.

    March 5, 2016 at 9:25 pm

    @BillinGlendaleCA: What does his rabbi drive?

  125. 125.

    Calouste

    March 5, 2016 at 9:25 pm

    @Ultraviolet Thunder: I guess that means that he wants Clinton to win, because government hasn’t reflected about 51% of the people in the last 227 years.

  126. 126.

    BillinGlendaleCA

    March 5, 2016 at 9:25 pm

    @SiubhanDuinne: I guess Richard wanted comment #118, it’s his thread and all…

    (You may have gone over the link limit, or FYWP doesn’t like the real name of GEC(Giant Evil Corporation)).

  127. 127.

    rikyrah

    March 5, 2016 at 9:26 pm

    @lamh36:
    Awesome. I love Sofia the First. Jake is not bad either.

  128. 128.

    amk

    March 5, 2016 at 9:26 pm

    @Chris: yup. stupid logic.

  129. 129.

    Miss Bianca

    March 5, 2016 at 9:27 pm

    @BillinGlendaleCA:

    Holy crap…Louisiana politicians!

    @I’mNotSureWhoIWantToBeYet:

    OK, even without numbers, how can Sanders supporters be upset at the news that their man took Kansas? How could it be a plot for HRC to take Louisiana?

  130. 130.

    Steeplejack (phone)

    March 5, 2016 at 9:27 pm

    @SiubhanDuinne:

    Always good to use a reply link to the offending comment, because you never know what number it will come out, but the link persists.

  131. 131.

    Ben Cisco

    March 5, 2016 at 9:28 pm

    Me, I’m TIRED of stupid people.
    TIRED of them being catered to by the GOP and the media.
    TIRED of having to be concerned that one of these assholes is going to assault/shoot somebody b/c their precious feelings aren’t being addressed sufficiently.
    TIRED of people nominally on “our” side (looking at you, DWS and Jim motherfucking Webb) showing their ass for all the world to see.
    TIRED of the ratfucking.
    TIRED of the trolling.
    TIRED of the complete and absolute fucking STUPIDITY of it all.

  132. 132.

    The Other Chuck

    March 5, 2016 at 9:28 pm

    @Chris: I guess Louis wants to see a house burned down for every one a firefighter saves. Gotta have that balance.

  133. 133.

    danielx

    March 5, 2016 at 9:28 pm

    @SiubhanDuinne:

    WP is being temperamental this evening.

  134. 134.

    BillinGlendaleCA

    March 5, 2016 at 9:28 pm

    @Davebo: I’m a computer professional, why would I RTFM? The problem turned out to be a thing on the paper tray designed to keep extra pages from feeding, I put tape over and it feeds fine(though only one sheet at a time). I guess there’s too much friction on the high gloss paper for it to pull it from the paper tray.

  135. 135.

    debbie

    March 5, 2016 at 9:29 pm

    Sanders winning in Nebraska and Kansas can’t be good news for Hillary. She can’t win without the flyovers.

  136. 136.

    Mike J

    March 5, 2016 at 9:29 pm

    @Anya: We had eight years without death squads, now we need balance.

  137. 137.

    Baud

    March 5, 2016 at 9:29 pm

    @Chris: So he’s advocating for a Dem Congress too?

  138. 138.

    Jasmine Bleach

    March 5, 2016 at 9:30 pm

    @Anya:

    Sanders won Nebraska & Kansas but Michael Moore told me red state wins don’t matter.

    Yeah, my thought after he said that was “Well, then most of Clinton’s wins don’t matter . . .”

  139. 139.

    Ultraviolet Thunder

    March 5, 2016 at 9:30 pm

    @amk:
    But most of the rest of what Louie C.K. says in that makes sense: take an hour to find out what Trump is really about before you back him purely as a protest candidate. Know what you’re buying into. That’s reasonable. And completely pointless when directed at a Trump supporter unfortunately. Their support is not based on objective facts. You’d do no worse teaching algebra to a sloth.

  140. 140.

    SiubhanDuinne

    March 5, 2016 at 9:32 pm

    @danielx:

    WP is being temperamental this evening.

    Yeah, well, ME TOO! Take that, WP.

  141. 141.

    Iowa Old Lady

    March 5, 2016 at 9:32 pm

    @Ben Cisco: Go do something fun. Watch something stupid and funny on TV or Netflix. The stupidity will be there when you get back.

    And take care of yourself.

  142. 142.

    scav

    March 5, 2016 at 9:32 pm

    @Baud: And definitely an ultra liberal replacement for Scalia. Because, democracy is not at all about determining what the populace wants by holding elections, it’s about making assumptions about their opinions and building a teeter-totter based on those assumptions.

  143. 143.

    magurakurin

    March 5, 2016 at 9:33 pm

    @BillinGlendaleCA: ballots? You mean the slips of paper the over flowing crowds of people were writing their “preferences” on? They didn’t announce the total because by these first glances the Kansas Dem caucus was a cluster fuck of the first order.

    Caucus needs to die. Just have elections and the whole process gets several magnitudes better.

  144. 144.

    Miss Bianca

    March 5, 2016 at 9:33 pm

    @Chris:

    Yeah, I like Louis CK but this just makes me want to say, “you know that white male privilege thing you were riffing on? Well, guess what…”

  145. 145.

    SiubhanDuinne

    March 5, 2016 at 9:33 pm

    @BillinGlendaleCA:

    One link only, and I never mentioned the GEC by name. FYWP is going to have to do better than that.

  146. 146.

    sacrablue

    March 5, 2016 at 9:33 pm

    @p.a.: Green as in balloons, not party.

  147. 147.

    Baud

    March 5, 2016 at 9:34 pm

    Hillary wins Louisiana, according to MSNBC.

  148. 148.

    SiubhanDuinne

    March 5, 2016 at 9:34 pm

    @SiubhanDuinne:
    @Steeplejack (phone):

    Good idea, thanks.

  149. 149.

    I'mNotSureWhoIWantToBeYet

    March 5, 2016 at 9:34 pm

    @Miss Bianca: Because a blowout win by Bernie in Kansas would make people think twice about voting for loser Hillary. Or something. I don’t understand it myself. I’m just hearing things like “It’s anti-Democratic!” “It’s what you’d expect in the Soviet Union or something!!”

    “What are they doing!”

    :-/

    She’s quite upset about it.

    Cheers,
    Scott.

  150. 150.

    JMG

    March 5, 2016 at 9:34 pm

    I just saw CNN’s delegate numbers cruncher explain very patiently to supreme idiot Wolf Blitzer than Clinton’s win in Louisiana was of such a margin she would get more delegates than Sanders because of his wins in Kansas and Nebraska because people vote, not geographical entities. CNN promptly ran the graphic “Sanders wins two states, Clinton one.” If the American people are misinformed, it is because the people giving them information are too stupid to do the job.

  151. 151.

    Jeffro

    March 5, 2016 at 9:35 pm

    @BillinGlendaleCA:

    Dubya you could have a beer with; with Cruz, you’d want to throw the beer in his face and then punch him in the face.

    You put it much better than I could’ve.

    Cruz is so obviously nasty and wacko…so detested in his own party, so hard line far right…
    Kay’s right, he’s too much to hope for this cycle. But a guy can dream…

  152. 152.

    randy khan

    March 5, 2016 at 9:35 pm

    The New York Times is showing Louisiana as a Trump win.

  153. 153.

    Kropadope

    March 5, 2016 at 9:35 pm

    @Baud: He probably didn’t even consider Congress.

  154. 154.

    magurakurin

    March 5, 2016 at 9:35 pm

    @Baud: but the delegate count is 14 to 10. Sanders missed his targets again. And LA looks to be a rout. But delegate math is hard so, on with the Revolution, I guess. Fair enough, I suppose as long as he has the cash and the stamina.

  155. 155.

    BillinGlendaleCA

    March 5, 2016 at 9:36 pm

    @Baud: It’s a red state, doesn’t count.

  156. 156.

    Chyron HR

    March 5, 2016 at 9:36 pm

    @Ultraviolet Thunder:

    If 25% of the public are dunderheads does that mean we have to have an idiot President one term out of four?

    Well, two out of the last seven terms, close enough.

  157. 157.

    sacrablue

    March 5, 2016 at 9:36 pm

    @BillinGlendaleCA: Definitely not conservative.

  158. 158.

    Anya

    March 5, 2016 at 9:36 pm

    @Jasmine Bleach: He said that after Clinton’s Super Tuesday win. I guess people are not getting my snark.

  159. 159.

    amk

    March 5, 2016 at 9:36 pm

    @Ultraviolet Thunder:

    So, his solution is anyone but trump? even if it is the other batshit crazy coot because “we need balance”?

  160. 160.

    Ultraviolet Thunder

    March 5, 2016 at 9:37 pm

    @Baud:
    NYT as well, though their map and chart are buggy. Two states are called but show 1% or <1% reporting.

  161. 161.

    I'mNotSureWhoIWantToBeYet

    March 5, 2016 at 9:37 pm

    @Iowa Old Lady: Seconded.

    Don’t let this stuff get to you Ben. TV wants viewers and they’ll rile up their audience if they can. Politicians want to be in the news, likewise.

    Cheers,
    Scott.

  162. 162.

    Ultraviolet Thunder

    March 5, 2016 at 9:38 pm

    @amk:
    Yeah, like I said: not well thought out. A decent first-order concept that fails utterly when applied.

    ETA: This isn’t intramural soccer where everyone gets to play, because fairness.
    This is for leader of the free world and nuclear codes.

  163. 163.

    Baud

    March 5, 2016 at 9:39 pm

    Did I miss Rubio’s victory speech?

  164. 164.

    Jasmine Bleach

    March 5, 2016 at 9:40 pm

    @debbie:

    Sanders winning in Nebraska and Kansas can’t be good news for Hillary. She can’t win without the flyovers.

    She can. This weekend was expected to be very good for Sanders–he should win Maine tomorrow as well. Three of four ain’t bad at all.

    But the next week will likely be rough for Sanders. Michigan and Mississippi on Tuesday, neither of which is likely for Sanders. Then a week later on March 15, Florida, Illinois, Ohio, North Carolina, and Missouri–only the last of which is “in the bag” for Sanders.

    After March 15, however, the vast majority of states will go for Sanders unless his campaign somehow implodes. The only question is if Clinton hits the magical delegate count (with pledged delegates) before the end. She has a lot of Superdelegates, but they can change their minds. If the popular vote ends up in favor of Sanders, they might be pressured to reconsider.

    I think it’s probably only a 30% likelihood that Sanders pulls it out winning more pledged delegates (really, it all depends on who wins California and by how much), but it is a real potential. Either candidate could still win it.

  165. 165.

    PurpleGirl

    March 5, 2016 at 9:40 pm

    @lamh36: Cute pictures. Enjoy yourselves.

  166. 166.

    redshirt

    March 5, 2016 at 9:41 pm

    I’m a bit surprised Cruz won Maine. I’d a figured Trump is perfect for the nut ass Republicans we’ve grown over the last 10 years. But as MomSense said, trying to figure out the Republican mind is an abyss you don’t want to stare too long at.

  167. 167.

    magurakurin

    March 5, 2016 at 9:41 pm

    @debbie: uh, by all accounts it’s a 55 45 split in NE, more than likely the same in KS. So, Sanders has an edge among white people. Meanwhile, it’s a 50 point spread in LA. I think it is Sanders that has the problem winning over certain demographic groups. He is still 20+ down in Michigan, which is 3 days away now. But yeah, Clinton needs to panic about a delegate split in NE/KS.

  168. 168.

    BillinGlendaleCA

    March 5, 2016 at 9:41 pm

    @Baud: He came in 3rd again?

  169. 169.

    lamh36

    March 5, 2016 at 9:41 pm

    Bernie supporters have essentially become the HRC ’08 supporters…when it comes to not understanding the delegate math when it comes to Dem primary.

    As for the La results, I know more than a couple of Republican voters who are willing and ready to support Hilary. They don’t mention Bernie.

    not that HRC would ever turn La blue, but I can certainly see a scenario where more parishes are closer than usual at top ticket

  170. 170.

    magurakurin

    March 5, 2016 at 9:43 pm

    @I’mNotSureWhoIWantToBeYet:

    She’s quite upset about it.

    She’s invested too much of herself into a political candidate. Never a good thing for one’s emotional health.

  171. 171.

    amk

    March 5, 2016 at 9:44 pm

    @Ultraviolet Thunder:

    Thank god he is just a comedienne and not a ‘thought leader’.

  172. 172.

    Baud

    March 5, 2016 at 9:44 pm

    @BillinGlendaleCA: Fourth in some places. Even better.

  173. 173.

    I Am Not Jon Snow

    March 5, 2016 at 9:46 pm

    It’s shaping up to be another spectacular night for Marco. I can’t wait to hear his speech claiming victory when he finishes 3rd or 4th in each contest, and is totally shut for delegates in Maine.

  174. 174.

    I'mNotSureWhoIWantToBeYet

    March 5, 2016 at 9:46 pm

    @magurakurin: When she makes up her mind about something, it’s a sight to behold. ;-)

    “I’m tempted to write in Bernie in the fall!!”

    She’ll probably come around – she does have a good head on her shoulders. She knows how important it is. But it might depend on what Bernie does… :-/

    Cheers,
    Scott.

  175. 175.

    BillinGlendaleCA

    March 5, 2016 at 9:47 pm

    @amk:

    Thank god he is just a comedienne and not a ‘thought leader’.

    Where is JSF?

  176. 176.

    Mike in NC

    March 5, 2016 at 9:48 pm

    So Louis CK doesn’t just play a dickhead on TV, he’s actually one in real life. He’s got enough money to survive a GOP presidency, unlike most of us.

  177. 177.

    danielx

    March 5, 2016 at 9:48 pm

    @Ultraviolet Thunder:

    If 25% of the public are dunderheads does that mean we have to have an idiot President one term out of four?

    Actually there’s evidence to suggest the correct figure is 27%, but close enough.

  178. 178.

    BillinGlendaleCA

    March 5, 2016 at 9:48 pm

    @magurakurin:

    She’s invested too much of herself into a political candidate.

    Been alot of that going around.

  179. 179.

    a hip hop artist from Idaho (fka Bella Q)

    March 5, 2016 at 9:49 pm

    @lamh36: Yay, Maddie! The cutest kiddo ever, while getting some competition for efggranddaughter.

  180. 180.

    Tripod

    March 5, 2016 at 9:50 pm

    Undertaker Ted is losing in LA. He has a limited demographic appeal.

    Hillary is up 50+ points. That’s going to leave a delegate mark.

  181. 181.

    Baud

    March 5, 2016 at 9:51 pm

    @BillinGlendaleCA: I’m concerned about how my supporters will deal if I don’t win.

  182. 182.

    Jim, Foolish Literalist

    March 5, 2016 at 9:52 pm

    @hilts: When I was growing up and when I was a younger man, liberals and conservatives were friends with differences. They weren’t enemies.”

    Sweet dancing christ. Never mind the Iraq War, torture, Roberts, Alito, Citizens United, Hobby Lobby, disenfranchisement of voters, the locketep anti-environmentalism, the race-baiting and homophobia, the determination to gut the New Deal.

    That’s not how things used to be.

    What an asshole.

  183. 183.

    Kay

    March 5, 2016 at 9:53 pm

    @I Am Not Jon Snow:

    Republican voters don’t like him :)

    That’s how we could end up with Cruz if they actually have an open ballot at the convention- Republican delegates won’t switch to Kasich. They’re the base of the base.

  184. 184.

    magurakurin

    March 5, 2016 at 9:54 pm

    @Jasmine Bleach:

    After March 15, however, the vast majority of states will go for Sanders unless his campaign somehow implodes.

    facts not in evidence.

    New Jersey, Pennsylvania, New York, Maryland are going to go for Sanders? not likely. And even if they did, they won’t go for bigger margins than in Nebraska. Sanders lost Massachusetts. He’s about to lose Michigan in 3 days. Yet, somehow he will pull off miracle wins in NJ, NY, PA, and MD? Plus, Clinton is polling ahead of Sanders in Utah, Arizona and New Mexico right now. The vast majority doesn’t mean what you think it does. And even if it did, it won’t matter, because the vast majority of delegates won’t go for Sanders after March 15. At best he manages splits or slight gains. He’s is 201 delegates behind right now, and that deficit will more than likely expand today, despite “winning 2 states.”

  185. 185.

    Baud

    March 5, 2016 at 9:54 pm

    @Jim, Foolish Literalist:

    Non-Juicer white dudes are going to try our patience this year.

  186. 186.

    Kay

    March 5, 2016 at 9:55 pm

    Chris Matthews admitted he loves Kasich earlier. MSNBC is awful in so many ways. It’s about 80% bad.

  187. 187.

    Miss Bianca

    March 5, 2016 at 9:55 pm

    @magurakurin:

    But yeah, Clinton needs to panic about a delegate split in NE/KS.

    Not sure I understand that (unless that’s some snark I’m not picking up on). So, Clinton and Sanders both could be going to the state meetings with delegates, right? Then, depending on how things stand by the time the state meetings roll around, the pledged delegates can change. Don’t see any need for her to panic, but then I’m very new at this game, myself.

    ETA: OK, I think what you’re saying is that she *doesn’t* need to panic. My snark-o-meter needs to be recalibrated, methinks…

  188. 188.

    Ultraviolet Thunder

    March 5, 2016 at 9:56 pm

    @Jim, Foolish Literalist:
    Well, he’s partially right. 30 years ago you could maybe be an actual centrist, and Democrats and Republicans agreed on some things. Then of course a wheel fell off the GOP machine and it veered into the righthand ditch and flipped over. ‘Sharing’ isn’t going to right that disaster.

  189. 189.

    Jim, Foolish Literalist

    March 5, 2016 at 9:56 pm

    Looking around the internets….

    Mother of mercy! Could this be the end of Rubio?

  190. 190.

    magurakurin

    March 5, 2016 at 9:56 pm

    @Baud: we’re gonna burn the motherfucker down, that’s how we’re gonna react.

  191. 191.

    lamh36

    March 5, 2016 at 9:57 pm

    And now from Cap’n Obvious…

    @ajjaffe
    Rubio reax to results tonight, @ presser: “This map only gets better for us. Many of these states are states my opponents do better in.”

    You don’t say…

  192. 192.

    a hip hop artist from Idaho (fka Bella Q)

    March 5, 2016 at 9:57 pm

    @a hip hop artist from Idaho (fka Bella Q): competition from

  193. 193.

    Baud

    March 5, 2016 at 9:57 pm

    @Jim, Foolish Literalist: He’ll stay in until he loses Florida.

  194. 194.

    I Am Not Jon Snow

    March 5, 2016 at 9:58 pm

    Yikes. Rubes down to 14 percent in LA and dropping like a rock. Sell your Rubio stock. Quick.

  195. 195.

    a hip hop artist from Idaho (fka Bella Q)

    March 5, 2016 at 9:59 pm

    @I Am Not Jon Snow: I sold when people were still buying, more fools they.

  196. 196.

    Felonius Monk

    March 5, 2016 at 10:00 pm

    @BillinGlendaleCA:

    He came in 3rd again?

    He’s found his niche — Marco, the Third Turd.

  197. 197.

    Jasmine Bleach

    March 5, 2016 at 10:00 pm

    Sanders’ superdelegate count just went from 19 to 32 tonight (according to wikipedia). He gained roughly double that of Clinton tonight. (13 vs. 7)

    That’s a first.

  198. 198.

    magurakurin

    March 5, 2016 at 10:01 pm

    @Miss Bianca: Sanders is 200 delegates down. Getting delegate splits or slight gains in a state with 25 delegates doesn’t help him at all. Here is a clip of Weaver explaining the mathematical certainty to Sanders

  199. 199.

    Baud

    March 5, 2016 at 10:01 pm

    @magurakurin:

    I can’t say I blame you.

  200. 200.

    Ben Cisco

    March 5, 2016 at 10:01 pm

    @Iowa Old Lady: I cued up some Dr. Who.

  201. 201.

    Jasmine Bleach

    March 5, 2016 at 10:02 pm

    And Sanders wins by 35% in Kansas. Not a bad delegate margin.

  202. 202.

    BillinGlendaleCA

    March 5, 2016 at 10:02 pm

    @I Am Not Jon Snow: I’ve been assured that he’s the future of the Republican party.

  203. 203.

    magurakurin

    March 5, 2016 at 10:02 pm

    @Jasmine Bleach: so, now Superdelegates count? I’ll make a note of that.

  204. 204.

    redshirt

    March 5, 2016 at 10:04 pm

    @Ben Cisco: Not David Tennant Doctor, I hope. He’s EVIL!

  205. 205.

    Miss Bianca

    March 5, 2016 at 10:04 pm

    @magurakurin:

    Forgive me – I ran my head right into your snare. ; ) Just tired, I guess…

  206. 206.

    BillinGlendaleCA

    March 5, 2016 at 10:04 pm

    @magurakurin: I’ve learned today that Red States count and Superdelegates count; I’d been informed otherwise in the past. Live and learn.

  207. 207.

    BillinGlendaleCA

    March 5, 2016 at 10:06 pm

    @Miss Bianca: Are really sure you gave up the CO tobacco☺?

  208. 208.

    PurpleGirl

    March 5, 2016 at 10:06 pm

    @Ruviana: Marvel takes pictures — glorious pictures of her garden — but it is Anne Laurie who puts together the Sunday morning garden thread. If Raven has pictures for a garden thread he should send them to Anne Laurie. ([email protected])

  209. 209.

    Jasmine Bleach

    March 5, 2016 at 10:06 pm

    @magurakurin:

    so, now Superdelegates count? I’ll make a note of that.

    Of course they count. Why wouldn’t they. The trick is–they can change their minds (and often do).

    This is the first night Sanders has won more superdelegate endorsements than Clinton. That’s all I pointed out. If that makes you nervous or something, well . . . ;-)

  210. 210.

    SiubhanDuinne

    March 5, 2016 at 10:07 pm

    @SiubhanDuinne:

    Could a kind FPer please release this comment from moderation? It’s been over 45 minutes, and honestly, there’s nothing bad in it, I swear. TIA.

  211. 211.

    Jim, Foolish Literalist

    March 5, 2016 at 10:08 pm

    @Ultraviolet Thunder: CK and I are about the same age, so when he was a young man so was I, and on most issues I’d take Jim Jeffords or even John Warner over Heidi Heidkmap or Joe Minchin, but that has fuck all to do with the Bush/Cheney Republican Party, never mind Cruz/Rubio/Ryan/McConnell. It just stupefies me that someone who cares enough to put out a statement like this could/would be so insistently uninformed about political reality.

  212. 212.

    magurakurin

    March 5, 2016 at 10:08 pm

    @Jasmine Bleach: It was a vote of 39,000 people. Because the caucus system is so inherently undemocratic that the vast majority can’t participate. 39,000 people. Sanders got 26,450 votes in Kansas. But Clinton is on track to get 160,000+ in LA. She will net more delegates and more popular votes tonight. But keep hope alive, I guess.

  213. 213.

    chopper

    March 5, 2016 at 10:09 pm

    @magurakurin:

    if all the states after 3/15 sanders is likely to take were all winner-take-all (and the rest weren’t) then maybe he’d have a chance.

  214. 214.

    Miss Bianca

    March 5, 2016 at 10:10 pm

    @BillinGlendaleCA:

    That’s the second LOL from you today, Mister. Watch it now!

    Yes, on the wacky tobacky. Now I guess you’ll tell me I need to stop guzzling laudanum!

  215. 215.

    Kay

    March 5, 2016 at 10:10 pm

    @SiubhanDuinne:

    I did. I hope it shows up :)

  216. 216.

    Ruckus

    March 5, 2016 at 10:10 pm

    @Kay:
    Sour? I say acidic. Highly acidic.

  217. 217.

    Ben Cisco

    March 5, 2016 at 10:11 pm

    ca[a@redshirt: HA! watching current Dr, Reloaded. Capaldi has been quite impressive.

  218. 218.

    chopper

    March 5, 2016 at 10:11 pm

    @magurakurin:

    red state voters don’t matter! caucuses are anti-democratic! super delegates are anti-democratic!

    wait, Bernie won a red state caucus and picked up some super delegates? WOOOOOOO

  219. 219.

    Ridnik Chrome

    March 5, 2016 at 10:12 pm

    @Chyron HR:

    Well, two out of the last seven terms, close enough.

    You are being way too kind to George H.W. Bush…

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    Anya

    March 5, 2016 at 10:12 pm

    @Jim, Foolish Literalist: I blame it on the “both-sides-do-it” reflex

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    redshirt

    March 5, 2016 at 10:13 pm

    @Ben Cisco: Dr. Who is the only major sci-fi show I’ve never watched. I have some character flaw that makes me dislike British TV.

  222. 222.

    Jim, Foolish Literalist

    March 5, 2016 at 10:13 pm

    Matthew Yglesias ‏@ mattyglesias 56m56 minutes ago
    Hillary Clinton speaking in Detroit about party-building and improving Dems’ emphasis on down ballot races.

    Verily, she is evil incarnate

  223. 223.

    Kay

    March 5, 2016 at 10:13 pm

    @Ruckus:

    He greeted his caucusers by saying “I am in the company of patriots”

    He’s unbearable.

  224. 224.

    magurakurin

    March 5, 2016 at 10:13 pm

    @chopper: indeed. I feel for the Sanders people, I know they must feel like crap, but, someone has to lose. Pretending that things aren’t the way the are doesn’t seem to go a long way to easing the pain. The Clinton campaign and supporters did the same thing in 2008. It was a bad look then for them, it is a bad look now for the Sanders people. It has always been thus, I guess.

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    Baud

    March 5, 2016 at 10:15 pm

    @Anya:

    Plus a dose of it-doesn’t-really-affect-me-ism.

  226. 226.

    Baud

    March 5, 2016 at 10:16 pm

    @Kay: He was at the federal jail in Oregon?

  227. 227.

    Ben Cisco

    March 5, 2016 at 10:17 pm

    @redshirt: Let me quite humbly submit you’re missing out.

  228. 228.

    Miss Bianca

    March 5, 2016 at 10:18 pm

    @Jim, Foolish Literalist:

    Mother of mercy! Could this be the end of Rubio?

    Heheheh *Now* I see what you did there

  229. 229.

    SiubhanDuinne

    March 5, 2016 at 10:18 pm

    @Kay:

    Thanks, Kay! It did, and I hope others enjoy it as much as I do (one of my fave scenes from Alice in Wonderland).

  230. 230.

    redshirt

    March 5, 2016 at 10:20 pm

    @Ben Cisco: I’m sure. But at this point there’s so much of it and I have no means of watching it other than buying it, I’m prepared to accept that as my loss. Pip-pip, cheerio!

  231. 231.

    magurakurin

    March 5, 2016 at 10:21 pm

    @Jasmine Bleach: From Tad Devine’s lips to your ears. And he’ll get you to send him some more money, too, I’m sure. Money wasted just like the third wave over the top at the Somme. Money wasted, better spent on the general. But, whatever wiggles your waggle. The real battle is in November and the force to wage it is assembling now behind Clinton. You are welcome to join at any time. We’ll be waiting with open arms.

  232. 232.

    Frankensteinbeck

    March 5, 2016 at 10:21 pm

    @magurakurin:
    I want and should be a good winner, because 99% of Sanders supporters are good Democrats fighting the good fight, but damn it’s hard after listening to so much ‘Hillary is cheating to win’ crap. When I found out about the Sanders campaign stealing Hillary’s data because Sanders supporters were claiming this was a plot to shut Sanders down, it broke my patience.

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    Kay

    March 5, 2016 at 10:21 pm

    @Baud:

    To me it’s just more evidence of how far the GOP establishment is from their voters. They hate Trump and Cruz. GOP base voters love them.

    They could form two Parties- elected Republicans and donors and then Republican voters.

  234. 234.

    magurakurin

    March 5, 2016 at 10:22 pm

    @redshirt: three words. Netflix. Peaky. Blinders.

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    gogol's wife

    March 5, 2016 at 10:23 pm

    @sigaba:

    Don’t you mean Michael Conrad???

  236. 236.

    Ben Cisco

    March 5, 2016 at 10:24 pm

    @redshirt: ;~)

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    O. Felix Culpa

    March 5, 2016 at 10:24 pm

    @Kay: “They could form two Parties- elected Republicans and donors and then Republican voters.”

    AKA: the Politely Racist Republican Party (PRPP) and the Rabidly Racist Republican Party (RRPP).

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    Baud

    March 5, 2016 at 10:24 pm

    @Kay:

    Cruz straddles voters and donors. He has some deep pockets behind him. Trump doesn’t.

  239. 239.

    Bob In Portland

    March 5, 2016 at 10:24 pm

    Clinton keeps racking up delegates south of the Mason-Dixon line. The racial divide is apparently still holding up. Bernie should start buying huge blocks of time on BET.

  240. 240.

    magurakurin

    March 5, 2016 at 10:24 pm

    @Frankensteinbeck: love and kindness, brother.

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    redshirt

    March 5, 2016 at 10:25 pm

    @magurakurin: Can’t do Netflix up here in the mountains. Bandwidth is too expensive.

  242. 242.

    magurakurin

    March 5, 2016 at 10:25 pm

    @Bob In Portland:

    Bernie should start buying huge blocks of time on BET.

    basically, it is ignorant comments like this that explain why that divide exists.

  243. 243.

    PaulW

    March 5, 2016 at 10:26 pm

    http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-gHpE3u-TZYQ/VnwPCtqbnQI/AAAAAAAABXo/vSFejF3LS_4/s1600/2016_rubio3parodybumpersticker.jpg

  244. 244.

    I Am Not Jon Snow

    March 5, 2016 at 10:26 pm

    According to my Twitter feed, Trump carried Louisville by 1.5 points. Probably safe to give him KY now. And LA also looks safe, although it got a little close.

  245. 245.

    amk

    March 5, 2016 at 10:28 pm

    MAINE GOP: Narcissist who cons dopes into thinking he believes in their crazy shit defeated by asshole who actually believes crazy shit.

    Retweets 224 Likes 376

    https://twitter.com/DannyZuker/status/706295705023807490

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    magurakurin

    March 5, 2016 at 10:28 pm

    @redshirt: That is a bad point of the States, eh? There are little villages in Japan that seem like something out of the 19th century from the outside…but inside all those grannies and grandpas that live there are surfing the net with 1giga fiber optic lines for 40 dollars a month with tv and phone bundled in. But somehow America can’t get that done. Thanks, Obama.

  247. 247.

    James E Powell

    March 5, 2016 at 10:28 pm

    Checking for results and immediate responses from the online partisans of H & B. Looks like everything stays the same for now. We wait for March 15 – Day of Reckoning!

    The Rubio campaign moved from sad to funny.

  248. 248.

    Kay

    March 5, 2016 at 10:29 pm

    @O. Felix Culpa:

    It’s just amazing how big the divide has grown since Bush. They were like an army behind Bush- base plus establishment plus donors.

  249. 249.

    ThresherK (GPad)

    March 5, 2016 at 10:31 pm

    I have been listening to some studio-era golden age radio adaptations of movies, on ye olde internet radio. Fascinating to wonder how few Hollywood films today have actual scripts one could do this with.

  250. 250.

    Chris

    March 5, 2016 at 10:31 pm

    @Jim, Foolish Literalist:

    CK and I are about the same age, so when he was a young man so was I, and on most issues I’d take Jim Jeffords or even John Warner over Heidi Heidkmap or Joe Minchin, but that has fuck all to do with the Bush/Cheney Republican Party, never mind Cruz/Rubio/Ryan/McConnell. It just stupefies me that someone who cares enough to put out a statement like this could/would be so insistently uninformed about political reality.

    Another little thing – the Democrat/Republican divide might not have been that important until recently, but being a Democrat or a Republican meant nothing until recently, since both parties had liberal and conservative wings.

    Were things really that much more cordial fifty years ago between LBJ or Nelson Rockefeller’s supporters and George Wallace or Barry Goldwater’s? Somehow I doubt it.

  251. 251.

    Ultraviolet Thunder

    March 5, 2016 at 10:31 pm

    @magurakurin:
    Amazingly, it’s even worse in most parts of Canada than here. And the cell service is a decade behind us. Painful.

  252. 252.

    Baud

    March 5, 2016 at 10:31 pm

    @PaulW: I watched five minutes of MSNBC earlier today and they didn’t mention Rubio.

  253. 253.

    Mike J

    March 5, 2016 at 10:31 pm

    @Ben Cisco: As someone who has lived in Engerland, 90% of their TV is crap, just like ours. The only way is essex?

  254. 254.

    redshirt

    March 5, 2016 at 10:32 pm

    @magurakurin: Who pays for laying wire in Japan? Private companies or the government?

    I get why a private company has no interest in wiring for broadband in America’s rural areas – where’s the profit?

  255. 255.

    Kay

    March 5, 2016 at 10:33 pm

    @Baud:

    I’d still rather have Cruz than Trump.

    It goes Cruz, Rubio, Trump, then Kasich for me- in order of most likely to lose to Clinton :)

  256. 256.

    Baud

    March 5, 2016 at 10:34 pm

    @Chris:

    People claim they long for the old days and then they claim that the parties should stand for something. The only consistency seems to be that the Dems should always be at the short end of the stick.

  257. 257.

    gogol's wife

    March 5, 2016 at 10:34 pm

    @Kay:

    Yes, Trump has a kind of charisma. It doesn’t work on me, but neither did Dubya’s or Reagan’s — but they had it for a lot of people. I just don’t think Cruz or Rubio has a shred of charisma.

  258. 258.

    O. Felix Culpa

    March 5, 2016 at 10:34 pm

    @Kay: What do you think caused that divide? I’m guessing a combination of factors: the establishment’s failure to deliver on the culture war issues, permanent restructuring of the labor market, and Obama Derangement Syndrome. I’m sure there are others…

  259. 259.

    I Am Not Jon Snow

    March 5, 2016 at 10:35 pm

    @Kay: Agreed. I think Cruz is an easier mark in the general than Trump because Cruz’s support is much easier to predict. Trump probably loses big but there’s a wildcard in that you don’t know how blue collar voters in rust belt will respond to Trump’s message.

  260. 260.

    Baud

    March 5, 2016 at 10:35 pm

    @Kay:

    I can’t say I disagree about electability, although Trump is so hard to predict.

  261. 261.

    magurakurin

    March 5, 2016 at 10:36 pm

    @redshirt: Right now, NTT, which is the now private, former public telephone monopoly (think ATT) is laying fiber and the electric companies are also laying fiber along their right of ways on the power poles. Many places have a choice a two fiber providers. The electric company service tends to be cheaper and better. Not sure if there are any subsidies in place to help the companies lay the fiber lines.

  262. 262.

    a hip hop artist from Idaho (fka Bella Q)

    March 5, 2016 at 10:37 pm

    @efgoldman: Smart mom.

  263. 263.

    Chris

    March 5, 2016 at 10:37 pm

    @Kay:

    Bush was a once-in-a-generation candidate in being a guy that the elites and the base both saw as one of their own. The heir to a Northeastern royal house that had already produced one president, and a born-again Bible thumper who spoke fluent Authentic Frontier Gibberish. That’s not going to be easy to repeat, even if it’s not the only reason the divide has grown.

  264. 264.

    Frankensteinbeck

    March 5, 2016 at 10:38 pm

    @Kay:
    Bush II, The Dynasty Strikes Back, had many many MANY flaws, but he was a fantastic political campaigner. He knew how to be just every Republican wanted, and wasn’t that far off to begin with. Still, you’re right – all post-2008 elections have been a different world. Republicans went absolutely bugfuck nuts when a black man was elected president.

    @Chris:
    I like to go back to 1984, when Reagan won 49 out of 50 states in reelection. That is unimaginable now, and was even before Obama. Our political climate has shifted dramatically!

  265. 265.

    Ultraviolet Thunder

    March 5, 2016 at 10:38 pm

    @O. Felix Culpa:
    I’d add constant tax cuts for the wealthy and unnecessary wars causing disastrous consequences for people that the middle class voters know personally.

  266. 266.

    Felonius Monk

    March 5, 2016 at 10:39 pm

    @Baud:

    I’m concerned about how my supporters will deal if I don’t win.

    “You`ll win, if you don`t quit”

  267. 267.

    Baud

    March 5, 2016 at 10:41 pm

    @Ultraviolet Thunder:

    I’d add constant tax cuts for the wealthy

    Seeing as how both Cruz and Trump both propose this, I don’t think it’s the cause of the divide.

  268. 268.

    GregB

    March 5, 2016 at 10:42 pm

    Louis C.K. must be abusing some serious drugs these days. First at the Oscars he rambles on about how documentarians are losers who don’t make any money and now he’s running with the fair and balanced gibberish. What a flapping shitheel.

  269. 269.

    Chris

    March 5, 2016 at 10:42 pm

    @O. Felix Culpa:

    Probably doesn’t help that the establishment promised the money would trickle down, but at this point, anyone who’s old enough to remember Reagan has seen a lifetime of nothing but diminishing returns, income stagnating while cost of living goes up, up, up.

    That doesn’t mean they’re going to wake up and become Democrats – concluding that it’s all counterrevolutionary sabotage from a party structure infiltrated and compromised by the liberal elite is more their speed. But it still leads to a major “fuck the party.”

  270. 270.

    Mandalay

    March 5, 2016 at 10:42 pm

    Rubio’s communications director this evening….

    “Marco has done well in primaries so far. We beat Ted Cruz in Virginia. We beat Ted Cruz in South Carolina. We beat Ted Cruz in Georgia, a state that Ted Cruz originally thought he might actually win….So we feel really good about the map moving forward”.

    He makes Iraq’s Comical Ali look like an amateur when it comes to putting lipstick on a pig.

  271. 271.

    redshirt

    March 5, 2016 at 10:42 pm

    @magurakurin: How many truly rural areas of Japan have such service? For example, way up North? I’m not very familiar with Japan so I don’t know. But where I am, there’s only one other house within 2 miles of me, so I can’t really blame the local cable company for not sending a wire miles up a road just for me. That is, until the internet is treated like electrical service.

  272. 272.

    I Am Not Jon Snow

    March 5, 2016 at 10:43 pm

    Trump seems to be holding fairly close to his polling percentages. Close races in KY and LA probably due to Rubio voters dumping him for Cruz. But if that occurs in FL, Trump carries the state easily.

  273. 273.

    O. Felix Culpa

    March 5, 2016 at 10:44 pm

    @Ultraviolet Thunder: I totally agree that the tax cuts for the rich and wars hurt the R base – and the country at large – badly. I wonder, though, if the base has diagnosed these policies as a cause of their pain yet.

  274. 274.

    redshirt

    March 5, 2016 at 10:44 pm

    @Chris: Yeah, but the Democrats are to blame for those failures – the built in excuse for the failure of any Republican position.

  275. 275.

    Ultraviolet Thunder

    March 5, 2016 at 10:45 pm

    @Baud:
    Anecdotally I hear more GOP backers complaining about the rich (“CEOs”) paying low taxes. But that’s the guys with steel toed boots and pickup trucks that make up my office. It does end up in every Republican’s plans, whether they publicize it or not.

  276. 276.

    ThresherK (GPad)

    March 5, 2016 at 10:47 pm

    @redshirt: It sounds like a rerun of wiring ruritania for electricity or phones. Lester Beale’s posters are recommended.

    Not only did the right once care about governance, we got some great illustrations from it.

  277. 277.

    Felonius Monk

    March 5, 2016 at 10:47 pm

    Looks like Marco is going to carry a lot of Loser Stink with him back to Florida. Will Floridians hold their noses and vote for him or will they Trump him?

  278. 278.

    JMG

    March 5, 2016 at 10:47 pm

    BTW, in very red state Louisiana, with 70 percent of the vote in, only 15,000 more total Republican than Democratic votes. Enthusiasm gap? Clinton is ahead of Trump by 3-2 and Cruz by 5-3 margins. Best of all, Sanders,who’s getting slammed in his own primary, has more than twice as many votes as Rubio! The establishment choice! Maybe they’ve should’ve stuck with Jeb.

  279. 279.

    redshirt

    March 5, 2016 at 10:47 pm

    @redshirt: And just FYI, even electrical service is no guarantee. In planning my MOUNTAIN FASTNESS, I learned that if you have to get new electrical lines put into an area where there were none previously, you, the homeowner, can expect to pay about 1K per pole. I was looking at 20K just to get electricity to a house. No thanks!

  280. 280.

    I Am Not Jon Snow

    March 5, 2016 at 10:48 pm

    Trump wins KY, according to AP. LA also looks safe.

  281. 281.

    Chris

    March 5, 2016 at 10:50 pm

    @redshirt:

    Well, apparently not, or at least not exclusively. They wouldn’t be this pissed off at the party leadership if they didn’t think it shared in the blame. (Granted, what they think it should be blamed for is being too much like the Democrats).

  282. 282.

    James E Powell

    March 5, 2016 at 10:55 pm

    (Granted, what they think it should be blamed for is being too much like the Democrats).

    Which is amazing – stunning – given the reality of the last 7+ years.

  283. 283.

    I Am Not Jon Snow

    March 5, 2016 at 10:55 pm

    I think this may be the end of the road for Rubes. It’s very difficult to see how he competes going forward, and his money has got to be drying up.

  284. 284.

    O. Felix Culpa

    March 5, 2016 at 10:57 pm

    Based on google reporting, Bernie takes Kansas and Nebraska, while Hillary wins Louisiana.

    However, Hillary still gets more delegates: 51 (KS 10 + LA 31 + NE 10), with 45 for Bernie: (KS 23 + LA 8 + NE 14).

  285. 285.

    benw

    March 5, 2016 at 10:57 pm

    Tech’s basketball team pulled out a tough win over Pitt today and Bernie won some primaries. I’m in a good mood!

    SANDERS/GEORGES-HUNT 2016

  286. 286.

    amk

    March 5, 2016 at 11:00 pm

    LOLGOP

    For the hundreds of millions donors spent to watch Jeb and Marco fail, we could have built a giant statute of Nelson Muntz laughing at them.

    47 retweets 125 likes

  287. 287.

    misterpuff

    March 5, 2016 at 11:00 pm

    Trump to nominate Judge Judy to SCOTUS apparently.

  288. 288.

    misterpuff

    March 5, 2016 at 11:02 pm

    Trump whips out his Poll

    numbers!

  289. 289.

    magurakurin

    March 5, 2016 at 11:09 pm

    @misterpuff: admittedly, that joke works better when you say it rather than write it…but all the same…lol

  290. 290.

    Eric

    March 5, 2016 at 11:15 pm

    @I Am Not Jon Snow: I REALLY don’t want to think about what it means to give KY to Drumpf.

  291. 291.

    magurakurin

    March 5, 2016 at 11:15 pm

    @O. Felix Culpa: and it will get worse for Sanders before the night is over. There is one delegate left in NE and it looks like it will go to Clinton, and LA still has 12 delegates yet to allocate. Clinton will get most of those as well. So, Bernie’s big night….yeah…not so much. Tomorrow they can party like it is 1999 one last time. Maine should go big for Sanders. But Tuesday will be grim with a big loss in MI and and rout in MS.

  292. 292.

    Amir Khalid

    March 5, 2016 at 11:21 pm

    @O. Felix Culpa:
    Yep, that’s what RealClearPolitics’ tables say too. Incidentally, I notice that RCP has Hillary leading Bernie in the popular vote count by 4.15 million to 2.65 million — giving her 61% of votes cast. As I understand, if there’s to be a case for her superdelegates switching over to Bernie, he must make it by winning more votes in the primaries than she.

  293. 293.

    the Conster, la Citoyenne

    March 5, 2016 at 11:30 pm

    @debbie:

    How’d losing to Hillary in a bunch of states work out for Obama?

  294. 294.

    SFAW

    March 5, 2016 at 11:30 pm

    After tonight’s stunning string of third-place “victories” for Rubio, what’s the over/under for how long it takes RtR to jump on the Cruz Ship to Nowhere? Or will he go Trumpster Diving instead?

    Inquiring minds (don’t really) want to know.

  295. 295.

    cokane

    March 5, 2016 at 11:43 pm

    prob saying the obvious, but looks like a 2 man race now. i’d still say trump has a big lead, but cruz now appears like his only semi legit challenger

  296. 296.

    Kropadope

    March 5, 2016 at 11:46 pm

    .

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    Chris

    March 5, 2016 at 11:48 pm

    @SFAW:

    My money’s on Cruz.

  298. 298.

    SFAW

    March 5, 2016 at 11:50 pm

    @efgoldman:

    If one bid 13 cents a post, and the other 23 cents,

    Now why would anyone in their right mind bid for RtR’s “services”?

    [And if you don’t use the preceding question as it was intended, then you’re not the efgoldman I know and love (in a purely platonic, manly way, as General J.C. Christian might say.)]

  299. 299.

    SFAW

    March 5, 2016 at 11:51 pm

    @Kropadope:

    I couldn’t have said better myself.

    Or were you just channeling Marcel Marceau?

  300. 300.

    cokane

    March 5, 2016 at 11:53 pm

    more on cruz v trump, cruz is actually not far behind in estimated delegates, per RealClearPolitics. A gap of 80ish, and theres about 2400 total.

  301. 301.

    SFAW

    March 5, 2016 at 11:54 pm

    @Chris:

    My money’s on Cruz.

    You might be right, but part of me says RtR will go for someone with “Brinks trucks full of class.” Or was it “crass”? I can never remember.

  302. 302.

    Kropadope

    March 5, 2016 at 11:56 pm

    @SFAW: LMAO. I would tell you the story behind that, but I like your interpretation better.

  303. 303.

    Cacti

    March 6, 2016 at 12:02 am

    @O. Felix Culpa:

    FiveThirtyEight’s final numbers are:

    Clinton 39 (LA), 11 (NE), 10 (KS)

    Sanders 23 (KS), 14 (NE), 12 (LA)

  304. 304.

    Omnes Omnibus

    March 6, 2016 at 12:05 am

    @Cacti: ME?

  305. 305.

    magurakurin

    March 6, 2016 at 12:06 am

    @Cacti: so, +11 more for Clinton with 3 more states done. Sanders narrow path is become a slender wire. It’ll be a thin thread by Tuesday night and a puff of vapor by next Tuesday night.

  306. 306.

    Kropadope

    March 6, 2016 at 12:07 am

    @Omnes Omnibus: Didn’t vote for Democrats tonight.

  307. 307.

    Cacti

    March 6, 2016 at 12:07 am

    @Omnes Omnibus:

    I think they have their Dem caucus tomorrow.

  308. 308.

    Omnes Omnibus

    March 6, 2016 at 12:11 am

    @Omnes Omnibus: @Kropadope: @Cacti: One forgot that Nebraska exists for a moment.

  309. 309.

    O. Felix Culpa

    March 6, 2016 at 12:17 am

    @Omnes Omnibus: Huh. I forget that Nebraska exists at least three times before breakfast.

  310. 310.

    Cacti

    March 6, 2016 at 12:19 am

    @Omnes Omnibus:

    I once drove all 450-some miserable miles of I-80 through Nebraska in the dead of winter.

    I wish I could forget it.

  311. 311.

    Omnes Omnibus

    March 6, 2016 at 12:23 am

    Dear god, I have created an anti-Nebraska sub-thread.

  312. 312.

    O. Felix Culpa

    March 6, 2016 at 12:24 am

    @Omnes Omnibus: Not so much animus as apathy.

  313. 313.

    redshirt

    March 6, 2016 at 12:26 am

    @Cacti: I enjoyed the drive through Nebraska. Watching the geography change from west to east was interesting.

    But then, like a dog, I just like looking out the window.

  314. 314.

    Omnes Omnibus

    March 6, 2016 at 12:27 am

    @O. Felix Culpa: People bothered to comment.

  315. 315.

    magurakurin

    March 6, 2016 at 12:28 am

    @redshirt: never drove across Nebraska. I rode a bicycle across North Dakota though. 11 days of pure hell.

  316. 316.

    redshirt

    March 6, 2016 at 12:29 am

    @magurakurin: I thought N. Dakota was interesting too.

    So I guess I find it all interesting. Maybe except Indiana.

  317. 317.

    SFAW

    March 6, 2016 at 12:30 am

    @Omnes Omnibus:

    Dear god, I have created an anti-Nebraska sub-thread.

    Well I, for one, liked the album.

  318. 318.

    O. Felix Culpa

    March 6, 2016 at 12:31 am

    @Omnes Omnibus: Hehe. The joys of the commentariat, veering off into unexpected riffs on the northern plains states.

  319. 319.

    Omnes Omnibus

    March 6, 2016 at 12:31 am

    @SFAW: It is a wonderful album.

  320. 320.

    O. Felix Culpa

    March 6, 2016 at 12:33 am

    @Omnes Omnibus: Agreed.

  321. 321.

    SFAW

    March 6, 2016 at 12:34 am

    @Omnes Omnibus:

    I knew there was a reason I like you. Even if you are a Cheesehead.

    Any favorite song(s) on it?

  322. 322.

    Omnes Omnibus

    March 6, 2016 at 12:36 am

    @O. Felix Culpa: Atlantic City.

  323. 323.

    O. Felix Culpa

    March 6, 2016 at 12:40 am

    @Omnes Omnibus: Most excellent.

    And I’ll leave you all to discuss the virtues of The Boss whilst I shuffle off to slumberland. G’nite all.

  324. 324.

    Omnes Omnibus

    March 6, 2016 at 12:43 am

    @SFAW: Most of them. Atlantic City, linked above. Johnny 99. Highway Patrolman.

  325. 325.

    No One You Know

    March 6, 2016 at 12:44 am

    @Major Major Major Major: Good on yer, mate! ODAAT.

  326. 326.

    magurakurin

    March 6, 2016 at 12:46 am

    @redshirt: try it on a bicycle. in the rain. in a headwind.chased by tornadoes. covered in mosquitoes when you stop to piss. Montana was cool. North Dakota…no thank you.

  327. 327.

    SFAW

    March 6, 2016 at 12:46 am

    @Omnes Omnibus:

    Yeah, it’s a choice between that and “My Father’s House” for me. Atlantic City for the music/lyrics, My Father’s House for the theme.

    ETA: Just to be clear: I like every, or almost every, song on the album. But some more than others.

  328. 328.

    Omnes Omnibus

    March 6, 2016 at 12:50 am

    @SFAW: Nebraska and The River are my favorite Bruce albums.

    ETA: The River probably wins. The musical contrast between Sherry Darling and Independence Day is is marked, but the theme of the album flows through each song. It is a masterpiece.

  329. 329.

    SFAW

    March 6, 2016 at 12:52 am

    @Omnes Omnibus:

    Landsmann!

    ETA: Listening to “The River” as I write this. (The song – it’s a little late for the whole album.)

  330. 330.

    Omnes Omnibus

    March 6, 2016 at 12:54 am

    never mind

  331. 331.

    redshirt

    March 6, 2016 at 12:54 am

    @magurakurin: Probably true of most places in regards car v. bicycle.

  332. 332.

    Amir Khalid

    March 6, 2016 at 12:55 am

    @Omnes Omnibus:
    Ah, the video with with scenes from The Indian Runner, Sean Penn’s movie of the song. Penn met Springsteen’s sister Pam on the set of Fast Times at Ridgemont High, which I think was shot around the time Bruce was recording the demos that wound up as the Nebraska album. Their IMDB bios say Penn and Pam Springsteen were briefly engaged thereafter. Her acting career didn’t pan out, and she’s a photographer now.

  333. 333.

    redshirt

    March 6, 2016 at 12:59 am

    @Amir Khalid: Tangentially, is anyone familiar with Sean’s brother Michael Penn? He made one of my favorite 80’s albums, “March”. I’m unaware of anything after.

  334. 334.

    Amir Khalid

    March 6, 2016 at 1:03 am

    @SFAW:
    Bruce Springsteen has said that song is inspired by the life of his other sister, Virginia.

  335. 335.

    Omnes Omnibus

    March 6, 2016 at 1:03 am

    @redshirt: No Myth. He is married to Aimee Mann.

  336. 336.

    redshirt

    March 6, 2016 at 1:05 am

    @Omnes Omnibus: Wow! I forgot what actual music videos used to be like. Great song.

  337. 337.

    Amir Khalid

    March 6, 2016 at 1:07 am

    @redshirt:
    Per his Wikipedia entry, Michael Penn has been doing a lot of film and television work in recent years.

  338. 338.

    Omnes Omnibus

    March 6, 2016 at 1:14 am

    @redshirt: Videos can also look like this.

  339. 339.

    SFAW

    March 6, 2016 at 1:24 am

    @Amir Khalid:

    Didn’t know that. Thanks!

  340. 340.

    Steve in the ATL

    March 6, 2016 at 2:06 am

    @Cacti:

    I once drove all 450-some miserable miles of I-80 through Nebraska in the dead of winter.

    I wish I could forget it.

    I did that one summer. It was no better.

  341. 341.

    Steve in the ATL

    March 6, 2016 at 2:08 am

    @redshirt:

    Tangentially, is anyone familiar with Sean’s brother Michael Penn? He made one of my favorite 80’s albums, “March”. I’m unaware of anything after.

    He beat out Madonna for the MTV new artist of the year award. Arguably a bad call by MTV.

  342. 342.

    redshirt

    March 6, 2016 at 2:10 am

    @Steve in the ATL: Was Madonna new that year?

  343. 343.

    Omnes Omnibus

    March 6, 2016 at 2:18 am

    @redshirt: No.

  344. 344.

    Steve in the ATL

    March 6, 2016 at 2:25 am

    @redshirt: According to MTV she was. I’ll leave it up to you guys to debate the merits of MTV’s decision to include Penn and Madonna in the same new artist class.

    Anyway, it’s 2:30 am and I’m just back from seeing the Dropkick Murphys who are an excellent live act.

  345. 345.

    Omnes Omnibus

    March 6, 2016 at 2:29 am

    @Steve in the ATL:Good show? They’ve been every time I’ve seen them.

  346. 346.

    redshirt

    March 6, 2016 at 2:30 am

    @Steve in the ATL: Now that you’ve made me look it up, Penn won the award in 1990; Madonna was already a mega world super star for a long time by then.

  347. 347.

    Steve in the ATL

    March 6, 2016 at 2:33 am

    @redshirt: @redshirt: Really? Because I actually heard that on MTV as a mea culpa. So they can’t even get their own history right?

  348. 348.

    Steve in the ATL

    March 6, 2016 at 2:36 am

    @Omnes Omnibus: They are a blast live, as you apparently know. The Tabernacle is a great venue, too–used to be a church in downtown Atlanta. Last concert I saw there was Flaming Lips. They are a great live act too though I’m not a huge fan of the music. Like you, I prefer the ‘Mats!

    I was with a friend from Queens tonight. He was visibly agitated by the DKM fans wearing Bruins, Celtics, and Red Sox jerseys. Oddly, saw none for the Patriots.

  349. 349.

    redshirt

    March 6, 2016 at 2:37 am

    @Steve in the ATL: When Nina Blackwood is the victor, she writes her own history.

  350. 350.

    Steve in the ATL

    March 6, 2016 at 2:39 am

    @redshirt: Was it Sun Tzu who said history is written by the VJ’s?

  351. 351.

    redshirt

    March 6, 2016 at 2:39 am

    @Steve in the ATL: Patriots are too mainstream now. Too corporate. Real folk from Southie stick with the Bruins as the least successful franchise.

  352. 352.

    redshirt

    March 6, 2016 at 2:41 am

    @Steve in the ATL: I believe that was JJ Jackson, actually.

  353. 353.

    Steve in the ATL

    March 6, 2016 at 2:47 am

    @redshirt: Indeed! And always nice to people old enough to remember this stuff still awake and posting at this hour–especially on a dead thread!

  354. 354.

    redshirt

    March 6, 2016 at 3:00 am

    @Steve in the ATL: The 80’s have never been more alive, musically. It’s solid classic rock now.

  355. 355.

    PaulW

    March 6, 2016 at 7:42 am

    @Baud:

    FIVE WHOLE MINUTES?

    Must be a new record.

  356. 356.

    PaulW

    March 6, 2016 at 7:45 am

    @SFAW:

    I once woke up to “Point Blank” playing on the radio. It was an odd type of song to wake up to, still in a haze of dreamtime and so lying there listening to the lyrics and realizing I was losing my girlfriend and then my heart broke and I woke up for real and remembered I never had a girlfriend.

  357. 357.

    Matt McIrvin

    March 6, 2016 at 9:51 am

    @magurakurin: I’ve been hearing that from other Sanders supporters, that after March 15th the tide is going to turn and Sanders will start racking up huge delegate numbers everywhere. Is it coming from the campaign?

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