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You are here: Home / Elections / Election 2016 / Open Thread: Some Men Just Want to Watch the World Burn

Open Thread: Some Men Just Want to Watch the World Burn

by Anne Laurie|  March 15, 20163:37 pm| 239 Comments

This post is in: Election 2016, Hail to the Hairpiece, Open Threads, Republicans in Disarray!, Ever Get The Feeling You've Been Cheated?

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By request, for beloved commentor SiubhanDuinne. (Yes, I am aware the title quote is actually from Batman.)

Quick scan of the comments at YouTube suggests that Trump’s fans find this parody extremely flattering, for some reason…

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  1. 1.

    Just Some Fuckhead

    March 15, 2016 at 3:39 pm

    Alternate title: Some Bros Just Want To Watch The World Bern

  2. 2.

    Shell

    March 15, 2016 at 3:42 pm

    Well, since their man IS a walking cartoon, I guess they don’t see any difference.

  3. 3.

    SiubhanDuinne

    March 15, 2016 at 3:45 pm

    Thanks, AL! Gosh, that was fast :-)

    I didn’t look at YouTube comments, but I’m not terribly surprised. Trump himself seems unfazed by what is widely being billed as an unanswerable takedown ad against him (the new one with various women reading aloud some of his mysogynistic anti-female remarks). Maybe it’s just that old saw about No publicity is bad publicity as long as they spell your name right.

  4. 4.

    Technocrat

    March 15, 2016 at 3:45 pm

    Trump’s fans find this parody extremely flattering, for some reason

    Can confirm. Showed this to a TrumpBro at work. Response: “Yeeaah! Trump!”.

    Lots of base on the “yeah” bit.

  5. 5.

    schrodinger's cat

    March 15, 2016 at 3:46 pm

    @Just Some Fuckhead: Good one! You should write for the publication that DougJ quoted from in the last thread. Your material is far superior.

  6. 6.

    Peale

    March 15, 2016 at 3:52 pm

    Hillary should have taken better advantage of that Trump wedding she attended.

  7. 7.

    Peale

    March 15, 2016 at 3:57 pm

    @SiubhanDuinne: He’s just saying what we’re all thinking!

    Seriously, though. It’s like Republicans are trying to appeal to Democratic voters with their approach. He’s against muslims! He’s not a champion of diversity! He puts down women! He’s a self-centered businessman!

    Great. As a Democrat I’m pissed about all that. Although I’m probably not going to vote in the Republican Primary next month. It’s good to know.

  8. 8.

    ? Martin

    March 15, 2016 at 4:01 pm

    Fuck yeah!

    A poll worker in Cleveland, Ohio was arrested Tuesday after pulling a gun on another poll worker, local TV station WKYC reported.

    Alan Bethea, 45, took a .380 pistol out of his backpack during a heated exchange with co-workers at the Louisa May Alcott School polling station, according to the report. Though he did not point the gun at anyone, he allegedly verbally threatened those around him.

    Is there anything more wholesome salt-of-the-earth American than pulling a gun at the Louisa May Alcott School polling station? I don’t fucking think so.

  9. 9.

    FlipYrWhig

    March 15, 2016 at 4:02 pm

    @Peale: I think it’s supposed to appeal to the Peggy Noonans: people who wrinkle their noses at how common, how coarse, it seems. All the money and mouth and private parts and hitting and appetites. Trump is _vulgar_. Republicans used to care, or to pretend to care, a lot about this.

  10. 10.

    glory b

    March 15, 2016 at 4:02 pm

    @Peale: Khaleesi is coming to Westeros!

  11. 11.

    David ?Canadian Anchor Baby? Koch

    March 15, 2016 at 4:02 pm

    Hilarious-stinging attack ads dumping on Trump

    1. Highly Educated

    2. “Bimbos”

  12. 12.

    John Revolta

    March 15, 2016 at 4:04 pm

    @SiubhanDuinne: Although I prefer another version: The only bad publicity is your own obituary.

  13. 13.

    SiubhanDuinne

    March 15, 2016 at 4:09 pm

    @? Martin:

    Is there anything more wholesome salt-of-the-earth American than pulling a gun at the Louisa May Alcott School polling station?

    Oh, Beth! Where is thy victory?

  14. 14.

    NotMax

    March 15, 2016 at 4:09 pm

    @? Martin

    Is there anything more wholesome salt-of-the-earth American than pulling a gun at the Louisa May Alcott School polling station?

    Using it to shoot up an apple pie?

    ;)

  15. 15.

    M. Bouffant

    March 15, 2016 at 4:09 pm

    Here’s about how dense Drumpfites are:

    Editor’s note: Republican presidential candidate Donald Trump has taken to Twitter to say he’s heard from Florida residents that his name did not appear on their ballots when voting in today’s primary. It’s worth noting that Florida is a “closed primary” state, meaning registered Democrats can only vote for Democratic candidates, and Republican voters must choose from those running for the GOP nomination. Those who wished to change their affiliation, say, a Democrat who favors Trump this go around, would have had to have switched by Feb. 16. – Tricia

    No wonder they don’t recognize satire, parody or whatever it is.

  16. 16.

    Punchy

    March 15, 2016 at 4:10 pm

    @? Martin: When I was younger, I entertained fantasies that I’d be using my “gun” on a pole worker. Then I heard how much it would cost me….

  17. 17.

    Mike in NC

    March 15, 2016 at 4:10 pm

    Trump’s fans find this parody extremely flattering, for some reason…

    Well, he is the White (Peoples’) Knight coming to rescue them from the dusky hordes.

  18. 18.

    SiubhanDuinne

    March 15, 2016 at 4:11 pm

    @Peale:

    Red is definitely her colour.

  19. 19.

    aimai

    March 15, 2016 at 4:11 pm

    @David ?Canadian Anchor Baby? Koch: Well the one marked “highly educated” is straight up practically an advertisement FOR trump. His fans love his “plain spoken” ways. They love his cursing and his foul mouth. From their point of view its not even possible to figure out why the advertisement makers think this is an anti trump ad. Its pure gratification. As Steve M. points out on his blog NoMoreMr.NiceBlog its not possible to take trump down–to his supporters–by repeatedly showing trump being trump. That is what they have come for. The total trump package.

  20. 20.

    David ?Canadian Anchor Baby? Koch

    March 15, 2016 at 4:11 pm

    Serious question:

    considering Sanders’s opposition to trade deals, why isn’t he calling for repeal of NAFTA & China Trade like Trump?

    It’s weird how he gave away this potent working class issue to Trump.

    Is there some booby trap he’s trying to avoid? Is he insincere (like other politicians) about his opposition to trade? Is it just mere incompetence?

  21. 21.

    aimai

    March 15, 2016 at 4:14 pm

    Still, that Trump/Game of thrones mashup is brilliant. Needs more beheading though.

  22. 22.

    NotMax

    March 15, 2016 at 4:14 pm

    @aimai

    The total trump package.

    Phrasing!

  23. 23.

    Miss Bianca

    March 15, 2016 at 4:15 pm

    @SiubhanDuinne:

    Oh, Beth! Where is thy victory?

    Oh, ouch! : )

    Coming soon to a theater near you: “Little Women, Big Pieces”.

  24. 24.

    Mike in NC

    March 15, 2016 at 4:15 pm

    @Peale: According to my wife, all of her (female) bowling and golfing buddies despise Drumpf and have been going to the polls asking for Republican ballots just so they can vote against him in the open primary.

  25. 25.

    NotMax

    March 15, 2016 at 4:17 pm

    @SiubhanDuinne

    Christopher Columbus!

  26. 26.

    sharl

    March 15, 2016 at 4:22 pm

    @David ?Canadian Anchor Baby? Koch: Kay answered this question when you posed it earlier today:

    @David ?Canadian Anchor Baby? Koch:

    considering Sanders’s opposition to trade deals, why isn’t he calling for repeal of NAFTA & China Trade like Trump?

    Just a reminder. Clinton opposes NAFTA and the TPP too. I have my doubts but that is what she”s running on. She also ran on opposition to NAFTA in 2008. In fact, both Obama and Clinton said they were opposed to NAFTA in the Ohio primary in 2008.

    Democrats who have questions about these trade deals are not inventing that they were led to believe there would be some re-examination of US trade policy. Democratic candidates told them that repeatedly, including Obama and Clinton. I feel like history is being rewritten here. You really shouldn’t be shocked that these Democratic voters are upset about trade. They were specifically and repeatedly promised that Democrats would move away from the course we’re on and have been on for 25 years with trade. That hasn’t happened.

    ~
    ETA: More proper to say that Kay ‘addressed’ your question; it wasn’t a direct answer to what Sanders has said or done.

  27. 27.

    ? Martin

    March 15, 2016 at 4:23 pm

    @David ?Canadian Anchor Baby? Koch:

    Is there some booby trap he’s trying to avoid? Is he insincere (like other politicians) about his opposition to trade? Is it just mere incompetence?

    Because NAFTA isn’t going to be repealed any more than Social Security is. It’s insincere to suggest that would happen and would be pretty damaging overall to the US economy. The trade deficit between the US and Mexico/Canada is slightly larger now than it was when NAFTA went into effect (largely owning to petroleum imports) but the overall level of trade is 5x higher.

    You repeal NAFTA and you may get some manufacturing back (unlikely again due to the drive to automation) but you’ll screw over a lot of other industries and workers that have benefitted.

  28. 28.

    FlipYrWhig

    March 15, 2016 at 4:28 pm

    @David ?Canadian Anchor Baby? Koch:

    considering Sanders’s opposition to trade deals, why isn’t he calling for repeal of NAFTA & China Trade like Trump?

    Maybe because, like the side of my family that most reminds me of Bernie Sanders and all of my coworkers who are most excited about his candidacy, he enjoys complaining about things more than he likes articulating alternatives?

  29. 29.

    aimai

    March 15, 2016 at 4:28 pm

    @NotMax: OMG. Blushing!

  30. 30.

    David ?Canadian Anchor Baby? Koch

    March 15, 2016 at 4:30 pm

    @sharl: you may not be reading my question correctly.

    Sanders does oppose NAFTA, but he will let NAFTA stand in place if elected president, in spite of his opposition.

    Trump on the other hand says he’ll scrap it.

  31. 31.

    Steve in the ATL

    March 15, 2016 at 4:32 pm

    @? Martin:

    David ?Canadian Anchor Baby? Koch:

    Is there some booby trap he’s trying to avoid? Is he insincere (like other politicians) about his opposition to trade? Is it just mere incompetence?

    Because NAFTA isn’t going to be repealed any more than Social Security is.

    So…he won’t go after NAFTA because he wouldn’t be able to get Congress to go along with it, but he uses a different standard for the rest of his rainbows and unicorns platform that he wouldn’t be able to get Congress to go along with?

  32. 32.

    Gin & Tonic

    March 15, 2016 at 4:34 pm

    @David ?Canadian Anchor Baby? Koch:

    Trump on the other hand says he’ll scrap it.

    He doesn’t have that power, although I suspect he’s not interested enough in the subject to know that.

  33. 33.

    sharl

    March 15, 2016 at 4:35 pm

    @David ?Canadian Anchor Baby? Koch: Hopefully someone knowledgeable in this area – a journalist or trade specialist – will ask him this directly, if they haven’t already (and assuming they aren’t all covering Trump).

    Unfortunately Sanders has evaded foreign policy questions almost entirely, and maybe he considers your specific question too hot to handle in the same way. That would be sad if true.

  34. 34.

    Iowa Old Lady

    March 15, 2016 at 4:37 pm

    @Mike in NC: Maybe they don’t recognize that Danys and Jon Snow are good guys?

    @aimai: I actually expected a beheading in that scene! It’s not like GoT has never gone there.

  35. 35.

    Ella in New Mexico

    March 15, 2016 at 4:38 pm

    @aimai:

    That is what they have come for. The total trump package.

    Second this. They LOVE the cursing. And to be honest, his potty mouth is the LAST thing I care about in terms of things that scare the shit out of me about Trump.

  36. 36.

    Peale

    March 15, 2016 at 4:39 pm

    @Mike in NC: Yeah. I get that. It’s the same with the Williamson piece we were mocking this morning. That diatribe is not written to convince liberals that Trump voters are a bunch of uneducated toothless hicks. Middle class liberals tend to assume those things about people they’re against on their own without prompting. It is meant to turn college educated Republicans against the idea of associated with Trumpers….you don’t want to be that, now do you?

    I’m glad it isn’t working because I don’t want Democrats to use that kind of class crap in the Fall…but they probably will.

  37. 37.

    FlipYrWhig

    March 15, 2016 at 4:39 pm

    @sharl: @Steve in the ATL: I’ve been grousing about how Sanders and Trump have a common approach to trade: pretty much “if I were President, we’d get a better deal.”

  38. 38.

    Bobby Thomson

    March 15, 2016 at 4:39 pm

    His fans aren’t wrong. Pro tip: comparing Trump’s “wall” to The Wall isn’t helpful.

    The Trump as Vader bit was much better and made him look ridiculous. This at times just makes him look like a badass.

  39. 39.

    David ?Canadian Anchor Baby? Koch

    March 15, 2016 at 4:42 pm

    @? Martin: put economics aside, as this is politics.

    The point is he opposes NAFTA. He if opposes something, shouldn’t he be in favor of it’s repeal. From a purely politically standpoint, it’s a potent issue and he’s just giving away.

  40. 40.

    cokane

    March 15, 2016 at 4:43 pm

    libs should still be rooting for trump as the nominee, they’d all be disasters anyways, and he’s the least likely to win (well maybe cruz). now, raging protests are great, because conservative = ~liberal

  41. 41.

    geg6

    March 15, 2016 at 4:44 pm

    @srv:

    Other than on this blog, I don’t know a single soul that watches Game of Thrones. Which makes me feel oddly better about November, if your logic plays out. And I am certainly no shut-in. People talk about all kinds of tv shows they watch and that one never, ever, ever comes up. Not even the youngs talk about it.

  42. 42.

    FlipYrWhig

    March 15, 2016 at 4:44 pm

    @David ?Canadian Anchor Baby? Koch: He hasn’t even been made to say that he’d scrap it and replace it with something so great your head will spin!

  43. 43.

    jeffreyw

    March 15, 2016 at 4:45 pm

    Just back from the polls here in Illinois, we both gave Hillz the nod, and we were happy to vote Tammy Duckworth for US Senate. Our polling place is at a little country crossroads and is never crowded.

  44. 44.

    danielx

    March 15, 2016 at 4:45 pm

    Quick scan of the comments at YouTube suggests that Trump’s fans find this parody extremely flattering, for some reason…

    Beyond trying to explain or understand what wingnuts will find flattering or appealing, except that they seem to have a thing about men in armor.

    Edit: He, Trump does look like a Monty Python character in the illustration, do he not?

  45. 45.

    David ?Canadian Anchor Baby? Koch

    March 15, 2016 at 4:45 pm

    @Gin & Tonic: I wouldn’t say that. If he won a resounding victory, based on repealing trade, he would have a lot of power for full or partial repeal.

  46. 46.

    gogol's wife

    March 15, 2016 at 4:46 pm

    @geg6:

    You mean your friends are over the age of 13?

  47. 47.

    Just Some Fuckhead

    March 15, 2016 at 4:47 pm

    @schrodinger’s cat: Right? Someday I’m going to be Famous with a capital F.

  48. 48.

    David ?Canadian Anchor Baby? Koch

    March 15, 2016 at 4:48 pm

    @FlipYrWhig: but tha’ts not the point, if he believes in something he should say so (especially if it is politically potent), unless he doesn’t believe in it, or is incompetent, or is trying to avoid a booby trap.

  49. 49.

    Anoniminous

    March 15, 2016 at 4:48 pm

    @NotMax:

    First have to shoot your mom and then the apple pie.

    On the 4th of July in the middle of center field at Yankee Stadium when they are playing the Dodgers.

  50. 50.

    FlipYrWhig

    March 15, 2016 at 4:48 pm

    @jeffreyw: Remember when Tammy Duckworth was persona non grata in the prog-o-sphere because she was recruited by RAHM! to thwart Christine Cegelis?

  51. 51.

    geg6

    March 15, 2016 at 4:48 pm

    @gogol’s wife:

    Even the ones under 13 don’t talk about it. I still can’t fathom who, other than liberal bloggers and their minions, actually watches the show.

  52. 52.

    geg6

    March 15, 2016 at 4:49 pm

    @FlipYrWhig:

    I do. Assholes.

  53. 53.

    Peale

    March 15, 2016 at 4:50 pm

    @FlipYrWhig: Yeah. But if bernie is stuck on “I wouldn’t have made that deal. But it is what it is.” It kind of weaken his argument that he’s going to change the source of the problem. Or he really thinks that the problem is in the financial sector.

  54. 54.

    Weaselone

    March 15, 2016 at 4:50 pm

    @Steve in the ATL:
    Despite Hillary bring the “dishonest” candidate he also tends to stretch the truth a bit in certain topics. The import-export bank for example. Not sure whether he opposes what it actually does, or just thinks it’s something he can attack Hillary on because she supports it and it contains the word bank and is therefore evil.

  55. 55.

    Just Some Fuckhead

    March 15, 2016 at 4:50 pm

    @aimai:

    His fans love his “plain spoken” ways.

    Trump is practically Churchillian compared to their last mancrush, Bush.

  56. 56.

    Technocrat

    March 15, 2016 at 4:50 pm

    @aimai:

    Photoshop masters have been in rare form this cycle:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z-9kZb9nDoE

  57. 57.

    FlipYrWhig

    March 15, 2016 at 4:51 pm

    @David ?Canadian Anchor Baby? Koch: The booby trap is probably “OK, what would you replace it with?” For which his answer would be “something much better, believe me” [hopes reporter changes subject] or “…” [crickets chirping].

  58. 58.

    Peale

    March 15, 2016 at 4:54 pm

    @FlipYrWhig: I’ll tear it up, sounds really good, until you realize that there’s probably more than one copy.

  59. 59.

    Gin & Tonic

    March 15, 2016 at 4:55 pm

    @Anoniminous: Inter-league play is an abomination.

  60. 60.

    Jim, Foolish Literalist

    March 15, 2016 at 4:55 pm

    @FlipYrWhig: @geg6: I gather Sanders has fairly successfully made a vote for him a vote against RAHM! I don’t see how it changes things on the ground in Chicago, but it seems in keeping with the Underpants-Gnome politics of the whole Bernista movement.

  61. 61.

    FlipYrWhig

    March 15, 2016 at 4:56 pm

    @Weaselone: @Peale: TBH lately I’ve been struggling not to come out of the closet in my under-my-own-name life to tell my friends and colleagues how very much I’ve grown to dislike Bernie Sanders in the past 6 months. It’s building and building. I want him to lose and I want his fans to shut the fuck up.

  62. 62.

    Just Some Fuckhead

    March 15, 2016 at 4:57 pm

    I keep wanting to see Hitler rally footage subtitled with Trump speech excerpts but no one has done it yet. Dammit, I know it could be funny.

  63. 63.

    David ?Canadian Anchor Baby? Koch

    March 15, 2016 at 4:57 pm

    @Weaselone: he lies about a lot of things. His repeated votes against immigration reform. His vote against closing GITMO. His vote for the crime bill. His vote for regime change in Iraq. His humping of the NRA. His opposition of gay marriage. His support of communist governments. His weird essays on breast cancer and rape. And apparently, he lies about his opposition to NAFTA.

  64. 64.

    schrodinger's cat

    March 15, 2016 at 4:58 pm

    @Just Some Fuckhead: Don’t forget us when your comedy career takes off.

  65. 65.

    Weaselone

    March 15, 2016 at 5:00 pm

    @FlipYrWhig:
    It’s just politics on Bernie’s side. It works for him and he doesn’t get called on it. It’s more the double standard that gets me.

  66. 66.

    Steve in the ATL

    March 15, 2016 at 5:01 pm

    @Gin & Tonic:

    Inter-league play is an abomination.

    I concur. I suspect it is the work of Alinskyite communists and welfare cheats, with assistance from those weirdos who want to let trans people use public restrooms.

    I may have gotten turned around in that joke, but I do in fact concur that inter-league play is an abomination. If I want to see the Cubs play the White Sox, I will wait patiently until they meet in the World Series (this may require access to alternate realities or a lifespan greater than 1,000 years).

  67. 67.

    RobertB

    March 15, 2016 at 5:03 pm

    @geg6: GoT S5 Finale – ratings

    In Season 5, it was beaten on cable by only The Walking Dead, which isn’t bad considering HBO is a premium channel, and AMC is (usually) basic cable.

    And I have a coworker who’d maybe let his under-13-year old watch it (if he had a kid), but GoT is a bit risque. Boob, blood, beheadings, etc. Not for your average 6th Grader.

  68. 68.

    David ?Canadian Anchor Baby? Koch

    March 15, 2016 at 5:03 pm

    @FlipYrWhig: He could simply say status quo ante (ie the way things were before).

    That’s what Trump is saying to great appeal among various demos.

    Moreover, if he said, “I’m going to rip up NAFTA with my bare hands and go back to the way thing were before”, wouldn’t that be politically winning on social media and earn him $50 million dollars in donations.

    eta: even if it wasn’t feasible economically, it would still get him a ton of votes this year. Which is why his failure to adopt this position is odd, if not revealing.

  69. 69.

    a hip hop artist from Idaho (fka Bella Q)

    March 15, 2016 at 5:03 pm

    @Steve in the ATL:

    If I want to see the Cubs play the White Sox, I will wait patiently until they meet in the World Series (this may require access to alternate realities or a lifespan greater than 1,000 years).

    Quite possibly both, I suspect.

  70. 70.

    jeffreyw

    March 15, 2016 at 5:07 pm

    @FlipYrWhig: I remember some sort of a tither about that but didn’t pay much attention because it was an upstate district.

  71. 71.

    Steve in the ATL

    March 15, 2016 at 5:07 pm

    @a hip hop artist from Idaho (fka Bella Q): This purely theoretical, of course.. As a Northside native, I have no desire to see the White Sox in the World Series EVER.

  72. 72.

    FlipYrWhig

    March 15, 2016 at 5:08 pm

    @David ?Canadian Anchor Baby? Koch:

    if he said, “I’m going to rip up NAFTA with my bare hands and go back to the way thing were before”, wouldn’t that be politically winning on social media and earn him $50 million dollars in donations.

    You’d think. I mean, he’s already dominant on social media and in small dollar donations so maybe he doesn’t need to do anything for those reasons, but, like you’re saying, it seems a bit odd that he wouldn’t just say it, make Hillary have to come up with a long explanation for how in her plan a new multilateral round of something something would have side agreements to protect something something, and chortle over how many points he just scored.

  73. 73.

    khead

    March 15, 2016 at 5:13 pm

    So I’m a little late to the discussion on the Williamson piece – and I have only read excerpts posted elsewhere – but I skimmed the BJ threads and don’t think I have seen anyone mention this article from US News. I mean, Williamson’s article has to be a direct response to this victimhood tripe, right? Because I ain’t gonna lie when I say my first response to the US News piece – also discussed by someone over at Digby’s – actually was “Boo-hoo, get a uhaul” like Williamson’s. But that’s only because all the people passing it around my FB feed (“Great article!”) wouldn’t give a shit if you changed the location to “Baltimore” or “Detroit”.

  74. 74.

    Bobby Thomson

    March 15, 2016 at 5:15 pm

    @geg6: you need to get out more. Very popular with RenFair types, bikers (but I repeat myself), and others you wouldn’t expect.

  75. 75.

    FlipYrWhig

    March 15, 2016 at 5:15 pm

    @jeffreyw: It was a huge and hairy deal. Cegelis had run stronger than expected against Henry Hyde in the early days of the blogosphere (2004), and was gearing up for a second go-round when Rahm recruited Duckworth for the race. In essence Cegelis was the brainy “netroots” progressive (a type that the blogosphere always liked, e.g. Darcy Burner) and Duckworth was the “electable” biography-over-ideology tabula rasa sort of candidate with a lot of money and favors behind her. It became kind of a proxy war between the Dean crowd (Cegelis) and the Rahm crowd (Duckworth).

    I still remember some of the heroes of those days. We were talking about Paul Hackett (OH) and Scott Kleeb (NE) just the other day. Brad Miller (NC) was another.

  76. 76.

    I'mNotSureWhoIWantToBeYet

    March 15, 2016 at 5:16 pm

    @FlipYrWhig: Another possible reason why Bernie’s not said that he’d rip up NAFTA yet is – maybe he feels he doesn’t need to.

    Dick Nixon on Twitter said (about Rubio) – “you don’t talk about the park until you need to talk about the park.” IOW, it doesn’t hurt to hold things in reserve. You don’t want stuff to become “old news” before it has had its greatest possible impact.

    But he apparently argued for repeal in his 1997 book. OnTheIssues:

    NAFTA, GATT, and MFN for China must be repealed

    Q: What about the hemorrhage of jobs abroad? Can we do anything about the disastrous effects of the global economy on American workers? According to the experts, no. But the experts echo the message their employers want us to hear.

    A: We need to address the issue of trade forthrightly and understand that our current trade policy is an unmitigated disaster. Our current record-breaking merchandise trade deficit of $112 billion is costing us over 2 million decent paying jobs. NAFTA, GATT, and Most Favored Nation status with China must be repealed, and a new trade policy developed.

    Let’s look at some of the components of a sensible trade policy. First, we must recognize that trade is not an end in itself. The function of American trade policy must be to improve the standard of living of the American people. America’s trade policy must be radically changed, by committing ourselves to a “fair” rather than “free” trade policy.

    Source: Outsider in the House, by Bernie Sanders, p.237 , Jun 17, 1997

    Dunno if he’s actually proposed legislation to repeal them though.

    FWIW.

    Cheers,
    Scott.

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    Linnaeus

    March 15, 2016 at 5:22 pm

    @khead:

    I mean, Williamson’s article has to be a direct response to this victimhood tripe, right?

    You’re giving Williamson far too much credit – he felt that way all along and now it comes out when the rubes don’t appear to be acting as the TPTB in the GOP want them to, despite the fact that said PTB have been cultivating this for years.

  78. 78.

    Miss Bianca

    March 15, 2016 at 5:23 pm

    @Just Some Fuckhead:

    I keep wanting to see Hitler rally footage subtitled with Trump speech excerpts but no one has done it yet. Dammit, I know it could be funny.

    Or, you know, that scene from Downfall. A little less historically traumatic, if no less histrionic.

    Just footnote me in your memoirs.

  79. 79.

    Mike J

    March 15, 2016 at 5:24 pm

    Comic Book Resources ‏@CBR Mar 14
    Ian McShane Says #GameofThrones Is “Just T–s and Dragons” http://go.cbr.cc/1SNj5C7

  80. 80.

    jl

    March 15, 2016 at 5:24 pm

    We’ll have to increase the laws!

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    David ?Canadian Anchor Baby? Koch

    March 15, 2016 at 5:24 pm

    @I’mNotSureWhoIWantToBeYet: U realize Nixon was incompetent and only won election by a sliver due to assassinations, riots, racism, a fucked up war, and a poor opponent.

    He wasn’t a sage.

  82. 82.

    aimai

    March 15, 2016 at 5:24 pm

    @Jim, Foolish Literalist: I have mixed feelings about Bernie’s taking on Rahm. On the one hand I think its a stroke of political genius w/r/t the primary. So its pretty canny. As well as the right thing to do morally. But on the other its the sign of a guy who really doesn’t care about winning the actual election and who is not, therefore, determined to actually get into power to accompilsh any of the things he’s promising to accomplish. Or rather, if he thinks he can get into power without the support of powerful Mayors and big city political machines he doesn’t understand politics enough to ever achieve anything.

    It certainly puts HRC in a difficult position–its basically the rhetorical equivalent of asking her to deny fucking a pig. If she is diplomatic, so as not to piss off Rahm, she’s shown herself to Bernie’s followers to be irremiediably corrupt. On the other hand, if she pisses off Rahm and loses Illinois in the general that’s a huge blow to the Democratic Party’s chances to retake the White House. Which way does a Weberian “ethic of responsibility” incline the politician here? I’m not sure. We would all be better off, and the party would be better off, if we could defenestrate Rahm but if Bernie’s voters actually wanted to do that there is/was nothing stopping them from trying to unseat him, or voting against him in the first place. They don’t need Bernie to do that. Perhaps the problem lies in the fact that the electorate itself has mixed feelings about Rahm? And the Democratic party is going to need even those votes, in the general election.

  83. 83.

    FlipYrWhig

    March 15, 2016 at 5:26 pm

    @I’mNotSureWhoIWantToBeYet: The thing is, no new, fair trade policy is going to prevent job losses. Job losses happen in conjunction with trade policy and extrinsic to trade policy. I’m not sure Sanders is very careful in talking about how trade policy and job losses are related. Trump definitely isn’t, but he’s not careful about anything. Sanders could say that money needs to be poured into job retraining and other ways to offset the costs of economic dislocation–but on the blogs at least that gets treated with derision. That’s why I started by saying that in the end it seems to come down to the notion that with Bernie on the case America gets a better deal because he looks out for the little guy. That’s what Trump says too.

  84. 84.

    FlipYrWhig

    March 15, 2016 at 5:28 pm

    @aimai: So much of the Sanders campaign is “I welcome their hatred” stuff.

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    David ?Canadian Anchor Baby? Koch

    March 15, 2016 at 5:29 pm

    @Miss Bianca: This is still the greatest Downfall evah – not because it makes fun of Hillary (it doesn’t), but because it satirizes all of the ridiculous 2008 narratives.

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    Miss Bianca

    March 15, 2016 at 5:30 pm

    @aimai:

    Yeah, I wish Sen. Sanders had decided to go with listing all the Republican members of Congress he was friends with, if he actually wanted to Bern One Down in a way that would help Democrats. But I don’t think “helping Democrats” is part of his world view.

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    gogol's wife

    March 15, 2016 at 5:32 pm

    @Technocrat:

    That’s funny.

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    NotMax

    March 15, 2016 at 5:32 pm

    Strictly for amusement purposes, Top Ten Reasons to Beware the Ides of March.

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    dedc79

    March 15, 2016 at 5:33 pm

    Washington, DC’s Metro (subway system) will be shut down for 29 straight hours starting at midnight tonight. Gonna be an interesting commute tomorrow…

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    Jim, Foolish Literalist

    March 15, 2016 at 5:33 pm

    @aimai: With Sanders, I keep getting stuck on his “look out the window” comment about how to deal with obstructionism. He doesn’t think his revolution is coming, he thinks it’s come. The man is delusional.

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    jl

    March 15, 2016 at 5:34 pm

    @aimai:

    ” Perhaps the problem lies in the fact that the electorate itself has mixed feelings about Rahm? And the Democratic party is going to need even those votes, in the general election. ”

    I don’t think most voters will remember that Sanders said about Rahm Emanuel. I think how Rahm effects the election in Chicago depends mostly on public perception of how Rahm is doing in months up to election, not what Sanders said almost 8 months before the election. After the IL primary both HRC and Sanders will move on, and during convention or general it won’t be an issue worth talking about for either of the candidates.

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    Miss Bianca

    March 15, 2016 at 5:34 pm

    @David ?Canadian Anchor Baby? Koch:

    There are so many great parodies of that scene…and that one is awesome.

    What really amazed me when I finally saw the movie – after seeing so many parodies of it – is how affecting and terrifying that scene really is, in context.

    It’s now one of my all-time fave rave movies. And I still LMAO at every parody.

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    trollhattan

    March 15, 2016 at 5:34 pm

    @Ella in New Mexico:

    And to be honest, his potty mouth is the LAST thing I care about in terms of things that scare the shit out of me about Trump.

    You mean the whole crazier than a shithouse rat thing? Yeah, cause for concern and yet, he’s only the second-worst Republican candidate left. Nice little shop of horrors they’ve got there.

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    I'mNotSureWhoIWantToBeYet

    March 15, 2016 at 5:36 pm

    @David ?Canadian Anchor Baby? Koch: Um, Dick Nixon on Twitter isn’t Richard M. Nixon. RMN’s been dead nearly 22 years. ;-)

    The posts there are often funny and occasionally have some decent insight (for Twitter). E.g. he’s felt that Kasich was going to be around a lot longer than many expected.

    One doesn’t have to recognize that Nixon was a criminal and a monster in many ways to also recognize that he was a very good politician (even when he was pushing horrible policies). And that part the guy on Twitter is emulating pretty well.

    FWIW.

    Cheers,
    Scott.

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    trollhattan

    March 15, 2016 at 5:37 pm

    @a hip hop artist from Idaho (fka Bella Q):
    Careful about those cross-town World Series, they’ve been known to trigger earthquakes.

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    Iowa Old Lady

    March 15, 2016 at 5:38 pm

    @Jim, Foolish Literalist: That was the quote that made me realize Sanders truly had no plan. I sincerely wish he did, but he doesn’t.

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    Cacti

    March 15, 2016 at 5:40 pm

    @Jim, Foolish Literalist:

    With Sanders, I keep getting stuck on his “look out the window” comment about how to deal with obstructionism. He doesn’t think his revolution is coming, he thinks it’s come. The man is delusional.

    The Sanders campaign in many ways is like the proverbial dog that caught the car.

    The reason some of his policy papers seem slapdash and cobbled together is because, well, they are. He ran as a broad strokes protest candidate and unexpectedly became a contender.

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    cckids

    March 15, 2016 at 5:41 pm

    While the GOT parody is good, try this from Funny or Die; Finland’s “8th Best News Team” covers Trump. Subtitles! It had me laughing out loud & scaring the cats.

    ETA: Their nicknames for the candidates/parties are great: Mr. Business Wig, The Cuban Robot, The Nice-and-Quiet One, The Elephant Cowboys.

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    Van Buren

    March 15, 2016 at 5:41 pm

    @aimai: If Rahm has his fee fees hurt so bad that he is willing to sell out Chicago, he is lower than Lieberman.
    I think I just had an epiphany.

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    Kay

    March 15, 2016 at 5:43 pm

    Among Cuyahoga Co. potential early voters, 15.6% (!) of Dems requested GOP ballots, likely to vote Kasich.

    I hope they’re voting for Kasich and not Trump. 15% doing “strategic voting” against Trump seems like a lot.

    I don’t understand “strategic voting”. It seems like the result should be the result, no matter what it is- if the GOP wants Trump then just beat him in the general. Everyone stay in your own lane.

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    Schlemazel (parmesan rancor)

    March 15, 2016 at 5:44 pm

    That video reminds me of a thing from the 80s when some CBS reporter told the story of interviewing some of St. Ronnies campaign people. CBS had just run an extended piece on the news about what a hot mess a Reagan administration would be & how bad his polices were. The report was set with a lot of clips from the Reagan campaign itself with Reagan talking about what he planned. The reporter was a bit uneasy about the reception they would receive given the piece. When introduce the guy (I forget who the players were in this little drama) THANKED the reporter for the piece! When the reported asked about that the hack said “People don’t hear the words they only see the images. You gave us 2 and a half minutes of Reagan standing in front of waving flags in beautiful settings and that is what voters will take away.” (or words pretty much like that)

    So it does not surprise me the knuckle-dragging, mouth-breathing, racist morons would be thrilled by this take-off. It is a great ad for Drumpf

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    Jewish Steel

    March 15, 2016 at 5:44 pm

    I woke up, dashed the dogs around the neighborhood, ran to the polling station and voted. I had a sheen of sweat as I emerged from the stuffy church. My fellow citizens in the parking lot, I’m sure, thought I was really agonizing over my choices down in the mines of democracy.

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    Baud

    March 15, 2016 at 5:45 pm

    @Kay: That’s going to hurt Hillary, no? I can’t imagine many Sanders supporters crossing over.

    As I’ve said before, I’m not a “strategic voter” either. I don’t even vote to “send a message.” I vote for who I want to win.

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    Jim, Foolish Literalist

    March 15, 2016 at 5:46 pm

    @Van Buren: I’m no expert in Illinois politics, but I doubt HRC will lose Illinois, with or without RAHM! I think the Chicago politics angle is what irritates me:
    1) I’m mad at Rahm, so I’m gonna vote for Bernie (!)
    2) Bernie wins Illinois
    3) ????????
    4) Rahm leaves office in disgrace.

  105. 105.

    Steve in the ATL

    March 15, 2016 at 5:48 pm

    @Jim, Foolish Literalist: Almost all of my dead relatives in Chicago are voting for Hillary this year, if that tells you anything

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    schrodinger's cat

    March 15, 2016 at 5:48 pm

    @khead: Isn’t it funny that these people want poor people in the United States to move where the jobs are, but demonize immigrants for doing the same.

  107. 107.

    Jim, Foolish Literalist

    March 15, 2016 at 5:50 pm

    @Steve in the ATL: only once? Some lazyass dead people in your family, if you don’t mind my saying. No turkeys for them!

  108. 108.

    Miss Bianca

    March 15, 2016 at 5:51 pm

    @Steve in the ATL:

    “Vote early, vote often, vote dead!”

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    Kay

    March 15, 2016 at 5:52 pm

    @Baud:

    I don’t know if it’s reliable, or what it means. I’ve learned to distrust these things. In 2102 they were trying to suss out what voters were doing by looking at early ballot numbers and it just meant nothing.

    Trump is hinting at voting “problems” again. He’s a menace, because he doesn’t understand how it works. Apparently in FL if you didn’t register with a Party designation prior you get an “issues” ballot (you can get one of those in Ohio, too). It doesn’t have primary candidates on it. The Trump voters are mad because they did it wrong. This throwing suspicion on elections is becoming a habit with him.

  110. 110.

    FlipYrWhig

    March 15, 2016 at 5:54 pm

    @Jim, Foolish Literalist:

    I keep getting stuck on his “look out the window” comment

    It sure makes a cool scene in _V for Vendetta_.

  111. 111.

    Schlemazel (parmesan rancor)

    March 15, 2016 at 5:55 pm

    @cckids:
    Thanks for sharing – that is hilarious! I sent it to a Finnish speaking friend, I’m interested in their take too

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    The Ancient Randonneur

    March 15, 2016 at 5:55 pm

    @Kay: It’s almost like they don’t remember which party is trying to make it more difficult to vote.

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    Baud

    March 15, 2016 at 5:55 pm

    @Kay: Wait till the general election, where (I believe) most states don’t have same-day registration for voting.

    Anywho, at least now they have a sense of how real victims of voting suppression feel. Not that it will broaden their horizons at all.

  114. 114.

    J R in WV

    March 15, 2016 at 5:56 pm

    Open thread? Good!

    Enough of Trumph for today, not another moment! well, at least until the polls are closed and the results are strongly supported by the actual count, as opposed to best guesses.

    Here in the real world, Mrs J had total knee replacement today. The surgeon, who has done both my shoulders in the past year, said it was a great result, although it took longer than expected – her kneecap was badly off center, there was a cyst, etc. But mobility is great, and not long after she left the recovery room and had lunch (around 2 pm) the physical therapist had her walking down the hall. There is medication involved, of course.

    I just did get home, with dog fud and J fud… tomorrow I’m planning to stop at the fish shop for oysters, which Mrs J doesn’t care for. Tonight it’s SouthWestern snacking, chili con queso and guacamole. And right now bourbon and branch water, followed by cold beer with the SW snacking.

    Mrs J is planning/wishing/hoping to attend a party on Saturday at a friend’s house, for another friend’s 60th birthday. If she can walk sufficiently to get from the 4×4 to the house, and if a close neighbor plans to go. I can’t go – it’s a Hen Party!

  115. 115.

    Baud

    March 15, 2016 at 5:57 pm

    @J R in WV: Best of luck to Mrs. J. Knee replacements can be a pain to deal with.

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    Betty Cracker

    March 15, 2016 at 5:57 pm

    @M. Bouffant: That is hilarious because I’m sure that’s exactly what happened. In FL, you hand over your voter card and license or license only and the poll worker looks you up on the rolls, then they hand you the ballot that matches your party affiliation. My ballot had Clinton, O’Malley and Sanders only on it because I am a Democrat. If I had wanted to vote for Trump, I’d be SOL.

    My hubby just got home from voting a little while ago and reported that there was a disgruntled man at our polling station who isn’t affiliated with any party and therefore cannot vote in the primary who was loudly pissed off about that. I’d bet a c-note he was a would-be Trump voter, LOL!

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    raven

    March 15, 2016 at 5:58 pm

    @J R in WV: Sounds like she’s doing as well as can be expected. What did you have done to your shoulders, Roator cuff or labrum?

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    JPL

    March 15, 2016 at 5:59 pm

    @J R in WV: If she can go, that’s would be impressive.

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    O. Felix Culpa

    March 15, 2016 at 5:59 pm

    @Steve in the ATL: Hah! Already done. 2005 White Sox World Series champions, baby. But not likely to happen again in my lifetime. Or this millennium. But I’ll always have Houston. :)

    Agreed, however, that interleague play is an abomination.

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    Kay

    March 15, 2016 at 6:00 pm

    @Baud:

    That’s one of the reasons I like primaries, though. It’s like a dry run for people who are bad at voting. They can get it all sorted out before the general. “Who are you? Are you in the RIGHT PLACE?” Basic questions. Straighten that all out.

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    aimai

    March 15, 2016 at 6:00 pm

    @Betty Cracker: Yes, this happens all the time when you are working at the polls. We had people waltz in–young people–for the 2008 election determined to cast their vote for Obama when they weren’t registered to vote at all. We were heartbroken for them but for christ’s sake people its been in all the papers that you have to have registered to vote in order to cast a ballot.

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    NotMax

    March 15, 2016 at 6:01 pm

    @Miss Bianca

    The classic Chicago-esque voting clip.

    (Not included in the clip – he returns with 32 tickets.)

  123. 123.

    Baud

    March 15, 2016 at 6:03 pm

    @Kay: It’s like a wedding rehearsal for the electorate.

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    LAO

    March 15, 2016 at 6:05 pm

    Hahaha. Just got home, turned on my tv and news is all about dumping on Christie for missing a state trooper’s funeral to campaign for Trump.

    ETA:interleague play is an abomination.

  125. 125.

    khead

    March 15, 2016 at 6:05 pm

    @schrodinger’s cat:

    Oh the US News piece is soooo good. Steeped in victimhood. Start with the third paragraph:

    On the losing side of automation, globalization and the “rural brain drain” our community was powerless to stop furniture factories from closing down or Wal-Mart from coming in. And after decades of decline folks were too beaten down and disorganized to fight back when pharmaceutical companies flooded the area with OxyContin.

    Did you notice they were powerless to stop Walmart and the oxy? Plus, it was states like North Carolina who helped facilitate the “urban brain drain” from cities in the northeast. I can go on and on, but the main point for me is that if you change the US News piece to read “urban brain drain from Detroit” and change Trump to – oh, let’s go for the gold standard here and use Farrakhan – then the white folks passing this article around probably would tell the poor addicted folks to get off the crack and pull themselves up by their bootstraps instead of excusing a vote for Farrakhan.

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    MomSense

    March 15, 2016 at 6:07 pm

    @? Martin:

    Maine has a background check referendum question on the ballot in November. It’s going to be ugly.

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    Baud

    March 15, 2016 at 6:08 pm

    @MomSense: Background check for whom?

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    benw

    March 15, 2016 at 6:08 pm

    @Jim, Foolish Literalist: I strongly support numbers 2 and 4 on your list. I have to admit your #3 is pretty vague there, though. :)

    The Sanders hatred is strong on this thread.

    SANDERS/KYLO REN 2016!

  129. 129.

    jl

    March 15, 2016 at 6:09 pm

    @Baud: But isn’t that business all covered in the brilliant and famous Baud! 2016! slogan, “Don’t worry. We have until November to mess this up?”

  130. 130.

    Miss Bianca

    March 15, 2016 at 6:11 pm

    @NotMax:

    “Fill ’em full of soup and already they don’t trust ya!” : )

  131. 131.

    Kay

    March 15, 2016 at 6:11 pm

    @Baud:

    Okay, now it’s upsetting me. They’re telling reporters they’re voting anti-Trump. They realize that messes with the D primary, right? They won’t know who Democrats chose?

    I knew this was a bad idea, Baud. No creativity! :)

  132. 132.

    Baud

    March 15, 2016 at 6:11 pm

    @benw:

    The Sanders hatred is strong on this thread.

    We like to alternate which Democrat we hate in each thread. Keeps everyone angry happy.

  133. 133.

    FlipYrWhig

    March 15, 2016 at 6:12 pm

    @khead: I’m old enough to remember when Republicans said PERSONAL RESPONSIBILITY a lot.

  134. 134.

    Kay

    March 15, 2016 at 6:13 pm

    @Baud:

    Why do they want Kasich as the nominee anyway? He could win the general.

  135. 135.

    Baud

    March 15, 2016 at 6:14 pm

    @Kay:
    @Kay:

    Let’s face it. Democrats aren’t very smart.

    I think that’s why I don’t have a delegate yet.

  136. 136.

    Kay

    March 15, 2016 at 6:16 pm

    I have to say, though, I would be quite proud of Ohio voters if they “stopped Trump” with this plan they all came up with in their individual kitchens :)

    Now I’m mad no one told me.

  137. 137.

    PaulWartenberg2016

    March 15, 2016 at 6:16 pm

    Who else is gonna be liveblogging tonight?

  138. 138.

    Baud

    March 15, 2016 at 6:17 pm

    @Kay: President Cruz would be quite proud as well.

  139. 139.

    benw

    March 15, 2016 at 6:18 pm

    @Baud: hate is not more powerful. Easier, more seductive… now I just want to go watch “Empire Strikes Back” again!

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    Kay

    March 15, 2016 at 6:18 pm

    @Baud:

    I would rather have Cruz than any of them. A known quantity who would be easy to beat. He’s the dream.

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    Baud

    March 15, 2016 at 6:18 pm

    @jl: My slogan is, “Don’t worry. What could go wrong?”

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    raven

    March 15, 2016 at 6:19 pm

    @LAO: Beisbol is an abomination..

  143. 143.

    Baud

    March 15, 2016 at 6:20 pm

    @Kay: I’d like Jeb! back. He was my dream opponent.

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    Kathleen

    March 15, 2016 at 6:21 pm

    @SiubhanDuinne: Not unless it was Walton’s Mountain.

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    Brachiator

    March 15, 2016 at 6:22 pm

    I can’t decide whether to watch any results tonight, or wait until tomorrow and see how much the country has gone batshit crazy voting for Trump.

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    Kathleen

    March 15, 2016 at 6:22 pm

    @SiubhanDuinne: Oh, and I saw what you did there!

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    jl

    March 15, 2016 at 6:23 pm

    @Baud:

    “Don’t worry. What could go wrong?”

    I didn’t know you dropped your campaign and are supporting
    Trump now.

    Edit: and true, there was a chance you could up your mad campaign skllz and get to the level of Jeb. Maybe the establishment GOPers will reintroduce a new model Jeb for a hung convention (if the Kommon Sense K pulls out Ohio and Trump is weakened).

    Increase the Laws!

  148. 148.

    J R in WV

    March 15, 2016 at 6:23 pm

    @raven:

    Total arthoplasty, the rotator cuf, etc, was in good shape, but the joint itself was bone-on-bone. Miserable! Now I can work again, even over my head. Titanium has no pain receptors, the surgeon tells me! Who knew!

    I over worked my shoulders and wore the cartilage out. They can’t do the bone replacement if the tendons and ligaments of the rotator cuff aren’t healthy. They remove the top end of the humerus and replace that ball with a titanium rod inserted into the humerus, and remove the end of the collarbone and replace it with another piece of titanium with a plastic edge the ball fits against. And the rotator cuff holds all those pieces together.

    I know more about it than I want to! The rehab was hard. And of course when I work hard I still get trivial muscle pain in my shoulders, but nothing compared to the pain of bone-on-bone joints. I have learned to take it easy, though!

    ETA: Between the two surgeries and all the rehab for each one, it took most of 2015 up. Now one of my knees is clicking a little, but not hurting bad yet. Arthritis is a bitch!

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    NotMax

    March 15, 2016 at 6:24 pm

    @Baud

    Dang, feel obligated to link to it now.

  150. 150.

    Baud

    March 15, 2016 at 6:25 pm

    @jl: I said “What could go wrong?”, not “What will go wrong?”

  151. 151.

    Baud

    March 15, 2016 at 6:26 pm

    @NotMax: If only he had won, we wouldn’t have had all of these problems over the years.

  152. 152.

    debbie

    March 15, 2016 at 6:26 pm

    @Kay:

    I don’t understand “strategic voting”.

    It worked against Rush and his minions in 2008. Obama still got the nomination.

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    Uncle Cosmo

    March 15, 2016 at 6:26 pm

    @Baud: More than a pain, they can be fatal, e.g., in the case of one Syd Thrift, “who served as the general manager of the Pittsburgh Pirates from 1985 to 1988, and the de facto general manager of the Baltimore Orioles from 1999 to 2002:”

    Thirft [sic] died September 18, 2006 at Milford Memorial Hospital in Milford, Delaware at age 77 following apparent complications from knee replacement surgery earlier that day.

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    ? Martin

    March 15, 2016 at 6:28 pm

    @David ?Canadian Anchor Baby? Koch:

    The point is he opposes NAFTA. He if opposes something, shouldn’t he be in favor of it’s repeal. From a purely politically standpoint, it’s a potent issue and he’s just giving away.

    Well, to that I say, don’t complain about him being insincere if your expectation is that he should be insincere.

  155. 155.

    Kay

    March 15, 2016 at 6:28 pm

    Okay, for perspective:

    In the 2012 Republican primary, 17 percent of voters had cast ballots in the 2008 Democratic primary

    Who knows what these people do or why they do it.

  156. 156.

    The Sheriff Endorses Baud 2016

    March 15, 2016 at 6:28 pm

    Voting done, one ballot in for Hillary Clinton, the next President of the United States, and Ted Strickland, the next junior seantor from Ohio. I also voted for enough Irish women that I’m not sure if they were running for judge seats or the Miss St. Patrick’s Day contest. The only tough vote was between the county prosecutor aiding and abetting in Tamir Rice’s murder or the crony of the disgraced former prosecutor. I voted the incumbent, since neither guy was likely to do the right thing regardless and I want Bill Mason to stay outside of county politics please and thank you. I’ll likely either write in Baud or Tamir Rice come November.

  157. 157.

    Gin & Tonic

    March 15, 2016 at 6:28 pm

    @raven: You again?

  158. 158.

    Felonius Monk

    March 15, 2016 at 6:28 pm

    Ben Carson, who is still a candidate for Moran of the Year, is now saying basically that he did not want to endorse the Drumpfster, but he was presented with an offer he couldn’t refuse. (source)

    I do not understand how any one with even a small spattering of brain material could ever think Carson was qualified to be President.

  159. 159.

    LAO

    March 15, 2016 at 6:29 pm

    @J R in WV: hope Mrs. j has a fast recovery. o/t I appreciated you sharing her crappy boss story a few days ago, being relative flat chested that was never a big problem for me!

  160. 160.

    Baud

    March 15, 2016 at 6:30 pm

    @Uncle Cosmo: Any surgery can be fatal. Infection, blood clots, maniacal doctors, etc.

  161. 161.

    Patricia Kayden

    March 15, 2016 at 6:32 pm

    @Peale: LOL!! By doing what exactly? Perhaps she could have stood up during the “does anyone have any objections to this wedding?” section of the ceremony and made a big scene. Oh well. She can do something at Trump’s next wedding.

    @dedc79: I imagine lots of people will simply stay home and telecommute. This is the first time I’ve ever heard of this happening since I’ve been living in the D.C. suburbs.

  162. 162.

    Baud

    March 15, 2016 at 6:32 pm

    @Felonius Monk:

    “I have to look at what is practical,” Carson told host Steve Malzberg. “I didn’t see a path for Kasich, who I liked, or for Rubio, who I liked. As far as Cruz is concerned, I don’t think that he’s going to be able to draw independents and Democrats unless he has some kind of miraculous change.”

    Lucky for Cruz, he’s backed by God.

  163. 163.

    LAO

    March 15, 2016 at 6:32 pm

    @raven: it’s been very, very good to me.

  164. 164.

    benw

    March 15, 2016 at 6:32 pm

    @Kay:

    I don’t understand “strategic voting”. It seems like the result should be the result, no matter what it is

    Plus, you end up voting for a loathsome asshole. Forget that.

  165. 165.

    Germy

    March 15, 2016 at 6:33 pm

    Republican presidential hopeful Marco Rubio’s Washington campaign office was evacuated on Tuesday after a suspicious white powder was found, ABC News reported, citing a campaign spokesman.

    Campaign spokesman Alex Conant told ABC that employees were evacuated to the roof of the Washington office building as a hazardous materials crew inspected the office.

  166. 166.

    Baud

    March 15, 2016 at 6:33 pm

    @Patricia Kayden:

    By doing what exactly? Perhaps she could have stood up during the “does anyone have any objections to this wedding?” section of the ceremony and made a big scene.

    It’s a Game of Thrones reference. Google “Red Wedding.”

  167. 167.

    Patricia Kayden

    March 15, 2016 at 6:34 pm

    @The Sheriff Endorses Baud 2016: “I’ll likely either write in Baud or Tamir Rice come November.”

    I’m sure Baud will be very appreciative.

  168. 168.

    Kay

    March 15, 2016 at 6:36 pm

    @David ?Canadian Anchor Baby? Koch:

    You know David, fair traders want specific things. They understand the issue.

    They want enforcement of currency manipulation. For example. That’s a specific thing. It isn’t just “markets” where the US is being buffeted along by tides ‘o commerce.

    They negotiate these things. Governments. The US isn’t helpless. The whole trade deal argument relies upon “WE want to negotiate the terms, because we’ll get good terms”. That’s supposedly the benefit of “leading” on trade. If it;s just what “markets” demand they wouldn’t spend years and years bargaining.

    I love how you’re complaining Sanders is over-simplifying trade by over-simplifying and misrepresenting the fair trade position. Continually saying the people who follow these trade deals somehow “don’t understand” trade is just so patronizing and ridiculous. Labor unions were at the table on TPP. They know what it is.

  169. 169.

    Baud

    March 15, 2016 at 6:36 pm

    @The Sheriff Endorses Baud 2016:
    @Patricia Kayden:

    I am appreciative. It’s B-A-U-D, with no umlaut.

  170. 170.

    Gimlet

    March 15, 2016 at 6:36 pm

    A bill to recognize magic as a “rare and valuable art form and national treasure” was introduced into the House of Representatives Tuesday.

    Representative Pete Sessions (R-TX) introduced HR 642. Rep. Steve Stivers (R-OH), Rep. Pat Meehan (R-PA), Rep. Dan Donovan (R-NY), Rep. Charlie Dent (R-PA), Rep. Ken Buck (R-CO), and Rep. Mike Simpson (R-ID) are co-sponsors.

    ——————————————————————–

    Mark Takano Verified account
    ‏@RepMarkTakano

    Mark Takano Retweeted daveweigel

    Breaking: @HouseGOP believes in magic but not climate change.

  171. 171.

    debbie

    March 15, 2016 at 6:37 pm

    @J R in WV:

    Wow! I know nothing about replacements of body parts, but walking on the same day as the surgery sounds miraculous to me. Hope the recovery is just as speedy!

  172. 172.

    Patricia Kayden

    March 15, 2016 at 6:38 pm

    @Baud: Alright. I’ve watched bits and pieces of Games of Thrones but haven’t watched the Red Wedding episode as yet.

    @Germy: Some poor Rubio staffer is using cocaine to dull his disappointment at Rubio’s failing campaign.

  173. 173.

    NotMax

    March 15, 2016 at 6:38 pm

    @Baud

    Howsoever, two umlauts would be ultra-hip.

  174. 174.

    raven

    March 15, 2016 at 6:40 pm

    @J R in WV: Nice! I was scheduled for labrum surgery a year-and-a-half ago but when I looked at the rehab I decided to lay off swimming for a couple of months and see what happened. I went back to swimming three days a week instead of seven and, while I have some discomfort, it really helped.

  175. 175.

    Baud

    March 15, 2016 at 6:41 pm

    @NotMax:

    Hmmm. You’ve given me something to think about.

    Bäüd! 2016!

  176. 176.

    Matt McIrvin

    March 15, 2016 at 6:44 pm

    @Kay:

    I don’t understand “strategic voting”. It seems like the result should be the result, no matter what it is- if the GOP wants Trump then just beat him in the general. Everyone stay in your own lane.

    Some amount of strategic voting is necessary in a system like ours, otherwise you get obscenities like Paul LePage getting elected governor of Maine twice because his majority opposition couldn’t get its shit together. But crossover voting to try to manipulate the party you hate one way or another, that’s peculiar at best. People I know have done it on multiple occasions; it seems to be popular in New England.

  177. 177.

    Gin & Tonic

    March 15, 2016 at 6:44 pm

    @Gimlet: Do you ever find yourself wondering why there’s a “link” button right above the comment box?

  178. 178.

    Germy

    March 15, 2016 at 6:45 pm

    @Patricia Kayden: Perhaps if Marco doesn’t drink enough H2O he flakes into a fine powder:

    Staff member: “Has anyone seen the candidate? And what’s all this stuff??”

  179. 179.

    PaulWartenberg2016

    March 15, 2016 at 6:46 pm

    I will be blogging tonight, off and on, in between running a task. Hope everyone else has popcorn and nachos to watch the horror film that is the GOP race.

  180. 180.

    Gin & Tonic

    March 15, 2016 at 6:46 pm

    @debbie: I was up and moving (slowly) within 24 hours of hip surgery. As JR said, drugs are involved. It’s much more dangerous to lie in bed.

  181. 181.

    NotMax

    March 15, 2016 at 6:47 pm

    George Brent day coming to a close on TCM.

    Hard pressed to quickly come up with a more prolific yet nondescript, whitebread popular leading man from that era.

  182. 182.

    J R in WV

    March 15, 2016 at 6:48 pm

    @LAO:

    Glad you enjoyed it. I made sure it was OK with her before pushing the post button. She actually had one boss who told her never to talk to members she had worked with for 25 years. It is a small community she knew well, and which knew her well. After a bunch of members (who pay for the service, without whom there is no cash flow!) complained about boss, he got fired.

    She and another woman drove around the suburban neighborhoods around his house, and put 50+ Real Estate signs in his front yard at 3 am the morning after he was fired, He spent the rest of his career working night broadcast in Cincinnati. Perhaps the worst, most boring news job in this universe.

    Arrogant bosses make me angry, misogynist arrogant bosses maybe even worse.

  183. 183.

    JPL

    March 15, 2016 at 6:48 pm

    If Trump wins Ohio, I’ll eat crow. Of course, I’d have to find my bbgun and shoot it down, but it’s not gonna happen anyway.

  184. 184.

    NotMax

    March 15, 2016 at 6:51 pm

    @JPL

    Never underestimate a state whose nickname is that of a poisonous plant.

  185. 185.

    Felonius Monk

    March 15, 2016 at 6:52 pm

    @LAO: @raven:

    “Great job, Chico. I’m glad that we haven’t hired just another stupid ex-jock sportscaster.”

  186. 186.

    Germy

    March 15, 2016 at 6:54 pm

    Jane Mayer has a piece up now at the New Yorker, “Who Sponsored The Hate?”
    http://www.newyorker.com/news/news-desk/who-sponsored-the-hate?intcid=mod-latest

  187. 187.

    Kay

    March 15, 2016 at 6:55 pm

    @Matt McIrvin:

    I saw it here in ’08 when Limbaugh told them to vote for Clinton. I was a pollworker. They made a big deal out of it when they came in. It was annoying but I don’t think it made a bit of difference. She won by a mile and she would have without it.

  188. 188.

    MomSense

    March 15, 2016 at 6:55 pm

    @Baud:

    Background check for gun sales.

  189. 189.

    geg6

    March 15, 2016 at 6:56 pm

    @RobertB:

    Meh. I have HBO but it doesn’t interest me in the least. And apparently doesn’t interest anyone I come into contact with IRL. Which is weird because I work for a major university and spend a lot of my time with students and out in the community. It’s never come up. Other shows often do, but never GoT. Just an anecdotal observation. It’s because of this that I am curious as to the geography and demographics of those ratings. I only ever see discussion of it on blogs.

  190. 190.

    Baud

    March 15, 2016 at 6:57 pm

    @MomSense: Thanks. Should have guessed.

    I wonder if that’s Maine’s version of Ohio’s gay marriage ban in 2004.

  191. 191.

    redshirt

    March 15, 2016 at 6:57 pm

    @NotMax: Great hitter. Too bad about the pine tar.

  192. 192.

    LAO

    March 15, 2016 at 6:58 pm

    @Felonius Monk: he is a national treasure.

  193. 193.

    Germy

    March 15, 2016 at 7:00 pm

    @Kay: Operation Chaos!

    From the wikipedia:

    The overall legality of Operation Chaos in several states, including Ohio and Indiana, is disputed. In Ohio, new party members are required to sign a pledge of loyalty to the party they join for a minimum of one year, making participation in “Operation Chaos” a possible felony (election falsification) in that state. However, the state attorney general there refused to press charges on anyone, saying that it would be nearly impossible to enforce because of difficulties proving voter intent and concerns that a loyalty oath would violate freedom of association.

  194. 194.

    delk

    March 15, 2016 at 7:00 pm

    @J R in WV: I had left shoulder rotator cuff surgery January 4th. Just moved up to using 2 pound weights during rehab. Sometime in the fall, I have to have the right shoulder done. Not looking forward to it, but at least I know what to expect.

  195. 195.

    Felonius Monk

    March 15, 2016 at 7:01 pm

    @LAO: Indeed.

  196. 196.

    Kay

    March 15, 2016 at 7:01 pm

    @Germy:

    Trump’s horrible, violent, lying campaign manager came out of a Koch org, so there’s a shocker. That’s what he ran prior to Trump.

  197. 197.

    J R in WV

    March 15, 2016 at 7:01 pm

    @Uncle Cosmo:

    I knew this, knew it before my surgery, of course. We are both mid-60s, healthy and active. But thanks for pointing it out right now this day, today.

    No hard feelings, just wanted to bitch a moment or two. All surgeries are dangerous, this is why you want an experienced and successful surgeon in charge!

    Years ago she had septic shock from pneumonia. After nearly 2 months in hospital, still recovering from a collapsed lung, chest surgeon (Filipino with great training and experience!) said “I’m going to patch the leak in her lung. Minor work, 20 or 30 minutes. 4 hours later he came into the waiting room, where I had been quietly losing it for 2 hours. He was covered in sweat, and pale. He said her left lung was necrotic (rotten and dead) when he got in there. He spent hours cleaning it up, scraping with tiny tools and using antiseptics to wash out the necrotic tissue. Totally removed the bottom lobe of that lung.

    I asked how common this was, had he seen it before, and he answered “This is very, very rare!” which my friend the ER doctor told me was a medical synonym for “I have never even heard of such a thing!”

    But he did it right, her lung expanded to fill that void, she was able to walk all over Spain and France 18 months later. Her family physician picked the specialists who worked with her septic shock, etc. and was delighted when she was discharged. She still had a chest tube when I brought her home. I had an intense refresher course in sucking chest wounds the night she was discharged. The nurses who got her back on her feet gave her a banner with all their signatures on her way out.

    Victory over strange disease!!

  198. 198.

    The Sheriff Endorses Baud 2016

    March 15, 2016 at 7:02 pm

    @Felonius Monk: I’m left wondering just how many Republicans saw Carson as some sort of Magical Negro. “Hey, the wise old black man always helps out the white guy, let’s vote him for President!”

  199. 199.

    redshirt

    March 15, 2016 at 7:03 pm

    Also, ABC better not interrupt my one and only show with election results tonight.

    Get a clue, ABC – people can find out if they want to find out, and if they’re watching Agents of SHIELD they probably don’t!

    But I’m pretty sure they will. BREAKING NEWS!!!

  200. 200.

    Kay

    March 15, 2016 at 7:04 pm

    @Germy:

    Operation Chaos was against the law so I got all worked up. I quit pollworking over that.

    “THIS is the code! Read it!” I told a (Republican) juvenile judge about it after and he said “that’s against the law”

    Exactly!

  201. 201.

    Mnemosyne

    March 15, 2016 at 7:05 pm

    @Bobby Thomson:

    Haven’t gotten to the end of the thread yet, but has anyone Photoshopped Trump as Dark Helmet (Rick Moranis) in “Spaceballs”?

  202. 202.

    Baud

    March 15, 2016 at 7:06 pm

    @redshirt: They usually do a crawl at the bottom of the screen.

  203. 203.

    Brachiator

    March 15, 2016 at 7:07 pm

    @redshirt:

    Get a clue, ABC – people can find out if they want to find out, and if they’re watching Agents of SHIELD they probably don’t!

    They should interrupt Agents of SHIELD just to post up a graphic which asks, “Why are you still watching this show?”

  204. 204.

    redshirt

    March 15, 2016 at 7:08 pm

    @Baud: Sometimes my ultra-hick local ABC affiliate will make sure I know.

  205. 205.

    Technocrat

    March 15, 2016 at 7:09 pm

    @redshirt:

    Seriously. There are a million places to get election results. There’s only one place to get AoS. Priorities.

  206. 206.

    japa21

    March 15, 2016 at 7:11 pm

    1% counted in FL, Trump 62.3%, Rubio 17.9
    Clinton 65.1 Bernie 32.5

  207. 207.

    Kay

    March 15, 2016 at 7:12 pm

    @Germy:

    I can’r believe I have to watch John Kasich win another election. OMG he’ll be unbearable after this.

  208. 208.

    Mnemosyne

    March 15, 2016 at 7:14 pm

    @Uncle Cosmo:

    About a week after my ACL was replaced, a scandal broke out about the selling of contaminated body parts where some people had died because the ACL tendon they got had botulism. That was a nervous couple of weeks for us, but mine was perfectly fine.

    I did have to fill out a living will prior to surgery because anything that involves general anesthesia is potentially fatal. And I confirmed that I’m an organ/tissue donor, because it only seems fair after accepting someone else’s tissue.

  209. 209.

    redshirt

    March 15, 2016 at 7:14 pm

    @Brachiator: It’s gotten a lot better from when it started. And it’s a comic book show so contractually I’m obliged.

  210. 210.

    khead

    March 15, 2016 at 7:15 pm

    @J R in WV:

    Best of luck to you and yours. I also hope the procedure wasn’t done in Beckley or Bluefield.

  211. 211.

    redshirt

    March 15, 2016 at 7:16 pm

    @Technocrat: I was watching the season finale of Agent Carter a few weeks back and the Palm Beach FL ABC channel cut out entirely 5 minutes in to air a Rubio speech. Fucking Rubio! He didn’t even win anything.

  212. 212.

    BillinGlendaleCA

    March 15, 2016 at 7:19 pm

    @Baud: Don’t forget about maniacal nurses, that’s the kid’s goal in life.

  213. 213.

    Kay

    March 15, 2016 at 7:19 pm

    Sherrod Brown : Kasich’s “for profit charter school scandal”

    Finally. They noticed. 5,000 newspaper articles later, national Democrats pick it up. They are so on the ball.

  214. 214.

    Germy

    March 15, 2016 at 7:20 pm

    @Kay: I dislike Kasich as much as I dislike the others. I don’t find him “moderate” or “reasonable” at all.

  215. 215.

    cckids

    March 15, 2016 at 7:20 pm

    @Schlemazel (parmesan rancor): It’s really funny how we need no translation for any of the nicknames. “Greasy Rat” – Cruz, without a doubt.

  216. 216.

    Chyron HR

    March 15, 2016 at 7:22 pm

    @japa21:

    IT’S OVER
    IT’S ALL OVER
    THE LATE GREAT PLANET AMERICA

  217. 217.

    MomSense

    March 15, 2016 at 7:23 pm

    @J R in WV:

    Best wishes for a speedy recovery to Mrs. JR. Hope she goes to her hen party.

  218. 218.

    Kay

    March 15, 2016 at 7:24 pm

    @Germy:

    I found out Republicans think he’s sanctimonious. They really resented him connecting expanding Medicaid to Christianity. I guess if you’re a Republican it IS kind of preachy and holier than thou.

  219. 219.

    satby

    March 15, 2016 at 7:27 pm

    @FlipYrWhig: this x eleventy-million.

  220. 220.

    debbie

    March 15, 2016 at 7:27 pm

    @Kay:

    It’s not just Kasich. The Franklin Country Commissioner who calls herself a Democrat is pretty deep into charter school shenanigans too:

    Given the scandal’s potential to hurt Kasich and his fellow Republicans, why is Franklin County Democrat Paula Brooks suddenly BFFs with Bill Lager – the man at the center of the charter pay-to-play scandal? And why is Brooks’ re-election campaign paying money to a company aligned with Lager lobbyist Neil Clark? For more than three decades Clark has helped Republicans maintain their majority in the Ohio Senate.

    As the Columbus Dispatch reported on Friday, “Brooks … raised nearly $67,000, including a $25,000 donation from William Lager, founder and operator of online charter school’’ the Electronic Classroom of Tomorrow (ECOT).

    In other words, ECOT’s Lager gave Brooks nearly 40 percent of the total she raised this reporting period.

  221. 221.

    satby

    March 15, 2016 at 7:29 pm

    @a hip hop artist from Idaho (fka Bella Q): or just watch the Crosstown Classic, which is held every year in Chicago.

  222. 222.

    Mnemosyne

    March 15, 2016 at 7:29 pm

    @BillinGlendaleCA:

    So she plans to work at Glendale Adventist, does she?

  223. 223.

    SiubhanDuinne

    March 15, 2016 at 7:31 pm

    @Kay:

    Question for you, Kay:

    I heard some reports earlier that some precincts in Illinois ran out of (paper) ballots today, and all the clerks and election officials were in a tizzy and didn’t know how to handle it. (I heard a very similar report about precincts in another state a few weeks ago, can’t remember whether one of the Super Tuesday states, or Michigan, or where. And it seems to be a regular event one place or another during every election cycle.)

    Anyhow, even though running completely out of ballots is fairly rare, it does happen — so wouldn’t it make sense either (a) for the county or Secy of State’s office or whatever entity regulates elections, to provide every polling place an excess of ballots? There would be some waste, but they wouldn’t be embarrassed by quite likely disenfranchising any number of voters (yeah, yeah, provisional ballots) or (b) to have every polling place supplied with a dedicated computer and printer so that if paper ballots are starting to run low, the polling place supervisor can run off however many are needed. Of course there would have to be layers of security and firewalls, and maybe a special paper which hackers wouldn’t know about or have access to. It just seems that they make things unnecessarily hard on themselves by failing to anticipate that this might happen.

  224. 224.

    Debbie

    March 15, 2016 at 7:32 pm

    Huh. Two comments now eaten. Let’s go for three.

    @Kay:

    There’s a Franklin County Commissioner, Paula Brooks, who’s also pretty cozy with Ecot. More than a third of her campaign funds came from Ecot. I’d link, but I don’t think it’s working. Plunderbund has a post on this.

  225. 225.

    Brachiator

    March 15, 2016 at 7:33 pm

    @redshirt:

    It’s gotten a lot better from when it started. And it’s a comic book show so contractually I’m obliged.

    I semi-kid. I’ve heard that it is much better from a lot of people who are into it.

    But I still pass. I tried Agent Carter, liked the lead actress, but hated the show overall. But life goes on.

    The new Daredevil trailer looks intense.

  226. 226.

    satby

    March 15, 2016 at 7:34 pm

    @J R in WV: Good luck to Mrs. J! Hope she can make it to the party!

  227. 227.

    cckids

    March 15, 2016 at 7:34 pm

    @Patricia Kayden:

    By doing what exactly? Perhaps she could have stood up during the “does anyone have any objections to this wedding?” section of the ceremony and made a big scene.

    I’m pretty sure, given the Game of Thrones topic that started this post, that it was a “Red Wedding” reference.

  228. 228.

    japa21

    March 15, 2016 at 7:35 pm

    @SiubhanDuinne: One of the problems in Illinois is that this was the first time you could register and vote the same day. In Chicago, at least, there were 9,000 new voters who registered today. According to the Cook County clerk, there was a very high percentage of young folks doing so, which could be good news for Bernie.

  229. 229.

    O. Felix Culpa

    March 15, 2016 at 7:37 pm

    @SiubhanDuinne: Oh Jo, where is thy sting?

  230. 230.

    Technocrat

    March 15, 2016 at 7:41 pm

    @Brachiator:

    A dozen Ninjas rappelling up an apartment building? I’m sold.

  231. 231.

    SiubhanDuinne

    March 15, 2016 at 7:53 pm

    @japa21:

    Then, especially with register and vote the same day, all polling places should have the printer option. Has this ever been done anywhere? Seems like a no-brainer to me, but I expect I’m overlooking some crucial fact that would make it impossible.

  232. 232.

    redshirt

    March 15, 2016 at 7:54 pm

    @Brachiator: It greatly improved after Captain America: The Winter Soldier, which shook up everything on the show.

    And yeah, I’m SO psyched for Daredevil S2. I’ve been planning out my bandwidth usage so I can watch it without paying massive data fees. I just got to watch S1 of DD and Jessica Jones and felt both shows were the best things from Marvel to date.

  233. 233.

    redshirt

    March 15, 2016 at 7:55 pm

    @cckids: It’s a nice day for a, Red Wedding.

  234. 234.

    SiubhanDuinne

    March 15, 2016 at 7:57 pm

    @O. Felix Culpa:

    Heh. Now I have “The Bells of Hell Go Ting-a-Ling-a-Ling” going through my head.

  235. 235.

    redshirt

    March 15, 2016 at 7:59 pm

    @Technocrat: And Electra. Who’s also a ninja. And oh yeah, the Punisher.

  236. 236.

    Central Planning

    March 15, 2016 at 8:01 pm

    If I write in “Baud” when I vote, how do they know which Baud I’m talking about? Is it like Highlander – there can be only one? Or do I write in “Baud from BJ”?

    Write-ins. How do they fucking work?

  237. 237.

    daverave

    March 15, 2016 at 8:02 pm

    @Gin & Tonic:

    Tomorrow is the sixth anniversary of me and my left hip. Titanium would be the proper gift.

  238. 238.

    Matt McIrvin

    March 15, 2016 at 8:15 pm

    @FlipYrWhig: Over the past several years I keep being reminded of a wisecrack Carlos Yu made:

    It’s remarkable how whining has turned into a badge of manhood for these weirdos. It looks like they’re going through a round of Nietzschean transvaluation, the despised behavior becoming preferred, the previous value system treated with contempt. Spite the bourgeoisie, they’re all a bunch of hippies anyway.

    Soon, deliberate failure to control one’s bowels will become a sign of adulthood among these people. It’s in the Constitution, folks!

    (It was over some horrible things that wingnut science-fiction author Tom Kratman said. One of Kratman’s best-known works was a book he wrote with John Ringo about an alien invasion being heroically repelled by returning to youth and health some of history’s most badass soldiers….. the Waffen SS.)

  239. 239.

    Original Lee

    March 15, 2016 at 8:39 pm

    @Gimlet: That’s H.Res. 642, not H.R. 642. IIRC, H.R. 642 is the bill they’re trying to use for the Flint drinking water relief.

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