Oh who cares about the goddamn Guevara thing? For God's sake. pic.twitter.com/nQ75SC37Jh
— Richard M. Nixon (@dick_nixon) March 21, 2016
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Oh who cares about the goddamn Guevara thing? For God's sake. pic.twitter.com/nQ75SC37Jh
— Richard M. Nixon (@dick_nixon) March 21, 2016
The President is responding to this.
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debbie
First wise thing out of that man’s mouth, dead or alive.
Baud
But Obama is wearing his American flag pin. Flag pin > Che mural. Conservatives must hate America not to realize that.
chopper
i know, right? it’s so crazy to see an american president photographed in front of such a horrible thing.
Baud
@chopper: Heh. That’s even better than the Nixon one.
quakerinabasement
Reagan. Bitburg. Wreath.
You know?
debbie
@chopper:
Naw, they’ll just claim some libtard Photoshopped it.
raven
Well my telephone was ringing
And they told me it was Chairman Mao
Well my telephone was ringing
And they told me it was Chairman Mao
You can tell him anything
‘Cause I just don’t wanna talk to him now
I’ve got the apolitical blues
And that’s the meanest blues of all
Apolitical blues
And that’s the meanest blues of all
I don’t care if it’s John Wayne
I just don’t wanna talk to him now
dedc79
@chopper: or a cemetery for the S.S.
(best memorialized in this Ramones song)
Betty Cracker
Hearing MSNBC in the other room. Sounds like Trump is kissing AIPAC ass. Guess HRC won’t be to his right on that issue after all, as the twitterers were a’frettin’ earlier…
MomSense
I’ve never understood this fear that Republicans have that a photo-op, or some other country’s propaganda/national pride, or conciliatory remarks (apologies) will weaken our nation in some way. They don’t have much faith in our country or Democratic values. Do they really think the United States is so fragile?
Cacti
The best revenge the capitalists ever got on Che was selling sweat shop-made t-shirts with his visage to clueless American teens.
kc
Clinton gives shitty speech at AIPAC.
Sfbevster
And in other news, Generalissimo Francisco Franco is still dead.
Chris
@MomSense:
Because they’re ridiculously insecure people.
You know that old study that said what women were most afraid of was that men would assault them, but what men were most afraid of was that women would laugh at them? The latter half of the equation is our modern right wing in a nutshell. Ridiculously insecure people, who use the political process and the apparatus of government to lash out and try to reestablish their own manliness-cred. (Of course, since the main source of their insecurity is the voice in their own head, there’s really no amount of lashing out that’ll satisfy them).
dmsilev
No, no, you don’t understand. Communist Cuba and all associated with it are clearly far far worse and a far far greater threat to US security than either the Soviet Union at its height or Communist China. That’s why we traded with the latter two and had to protect ourselves from the former.
Chris
@Cacti:
That has always been my stance. An achievement equaled only by the act of putting Andrew Jackson’s face on the notes printed by a national bank. I don’t like either of them, but the irony of it is almost worth seeing their face again and again.
bemused
@Chris:
They’re ridiculously insecure people. This. Always have been, always will be.
MomSense
@Chris:
Insecure and incurious. I would feel pity for them if they didn’t cause so many problems for the rest of us.
A Ghost To Most
@raven:
Feats don’t fail me now.
Chris
@dmsilev:
Yeah, I’ve always found the right wing hand-wringing about human rights in communist countries to be ridiculously hypocritical even for them, given how quickly they get over it once those countries go capitalist and start trading with us. China and Vietnam’s human rights records are shit, at least as bad as Cuba’s, and they’re still literally ruled by communist parties – where’s all the outrage for them?
raven
Donald is going to stop the hate of Israel by offing Palestinians!
Pseudonymous Bosch
@MomSense: It’s because they believe in magic. Remeber when they freaked out when President Obama he didn’t use the correct form of the word “terrorism.”
Brachiator
@kc:
Slate is working overtime in stupidity row:
Fuck the left. Might be interesting to have some actual reporting, to know how the speech was received by the attendees.
Is Bernie speaking to the group, or did he have something better to do?
In any event, this should satisfy Bob in Portland.
Aleta
AIPAC + Trump. This is a drag.
Insulting the president, lying like a cheap rug.
goblue72
@kc: Like that’s any surprise. I fully expect Clinton’s newfound progressivism to vanish into a puff of centre-right smoke as soon as the Democratic Convention is over. If not sooner. The re-run of the Clinton era that we are starring down the barrel of is going to be SO. MUCH. FUN.
Democrats are stone lucky that the GOP nominating process – and general rabidness of the GOP base – is such a shitshow that someone like Brian Sandoval or Susana Martinez can’t even entertain the possibility of running. Shit, recent aggregated polling has even a Kasich beating Clinton.
Librarian
@chopper: for a minute there, I thought you meant Pat Buchanan.
David ?Canadian Anchor Baby? Koch
This would have NEVER happened to Reagan!
PaulWartenberg2016
The Republicans would throw a f-cking conniption if Obama was photographed in front of a mural of Ronald Reagan.
Here’s the process: 10) Republicans see Obama do something. 20) Republicans go ape-sh-t over Obama doing it. 30) Republicans get told that what Obama does is normal everyday practice that previous Presidents do all the f-cking time. 40) Republicans ignore what they’re told. 50) GOTO 10)
goblue72
@Brachiator: AIPAC attendees being thrilled with the Clinton speech would be confirmation that the Slate article was correct. AIPAC being a rabidly pro-settlement, right-wing Israeli lobbying group.
RandomMonster
Google “Reagan in Moscow” FFS.
MomSense
@Pseudonymous Bosch:
What is the correct term again? I can never remember.
PaulWartenberg2016
@Sfbevster:
Another dead celebrity?! DAMN YOU 2016 WINTER OF DEATH!
trollhattan
@David ?Canadian Anchor Baby? Koch:
Ronny looking minuscule compared to Lenin’s Big Giant Head.
goblue72
@Brachiator: Jerusalem Post article of the same speech confirms the pro-Likud, pro-settlement tone of her speech – http://www.jpost.com/US-Elections/WATCH-LIVE-Hillary-Clinton-addresses-AIPAC-in-Washington-DC-448659
David ?Canadian Anchor Baby? Koch
VIVA BARACK!
(Photo #1)
(Photo #2)
goblue72
@Brachiator: US News report on the speech – Clinton moved to Obama’s right on Israel.
David ?Canadian Anchor Baby? Koch
Amazing photos of Obama with the Cuban people
(scroll down)
Pseudonymous Bosch
@MomSense: Thaat’s easy — it’s the one Obama (without loss of generality) does not happen to use.
ETA: I think in the particular case to which I was referring, he used “act of terror” instead of “terrorism” or summat.
Aleta
Transcript of the great big golden lies Trump told at AIPAC. (link goes to his website)
Cermet
@dmsilev: You REALLY don’t get why?! That amerikan sugar companies, who lost their near slave labor and vast sugar plantations were the sole reason we turned against Castro and boycotted Cuba. Thousands of nuclear tipped missiles held by the Russia pales in comparison to the situation when the wealthy loss money. You really need to realize this simple fact.
David ?Canadian Anchor Baby? Koch
sports fans: great game btwn Indiana and Notre Dame right now on ESPN2
They’re just bombing threes
Chyron HR
@goblue72:
Well, that does it, I’m definitely voting for Bernard Sanders.
Chris
@goblue72:
Yeah, I don’t have major beef with Hillary Clinton, but I have to say there’s nothing particularly objectionable about objecting to a speech that flattered AIPAC’s sensibilities. Whatever the origin of said speech.
Betty Cracker
Here’s a link to transcript and video of HRC’s AIPAC speech. Haven’t had a chance to watch it or read it in its entirety yet myself and will withhold judgment until I do so.
Peale
@Chris: Unless, of course, you’re a particular kind of voter in Michigan who is going to flip her the finger and stay home.
MomSense
@Pseudonymous Bosch:
Some combination of radical Islam and terrorism or whatever Obama didn’t say.
Hugely
@PaulWartenberg2016: dude is that FORTRAN? whoa…
geg6
@goblue72:
I read the speech and it was not pro-settlement. But lies about Clinton are your stock in trade, so have at it. Meanwhile, the parents of dead children in THIS country are eviscerating your hero for caring about Remington more than first graders being mowed down like stalks of hay at harvest and lying about their lawsuit. Feel the Bern!!! Especially when it’s coming from the barrel of an AR-15!!!
Brachiator
Earlier, we had Glenn Reynolds blathering on about how David Brooks Created Donald Trump.
Now WaPo gives us What Republicans did 15 years ago to help create Donald Trump today.
Basically, trade deals with China. But this is kinda interesting.
Pseudonymous Bosch
@MomSense: To be fair Glenn Kessler, noted objective checker of facts at The War Criminal Post, did say that “act of terror” does not have nearly the magical power of “act of terrorism” and gave President Obama Four Pinoccios for claiming otherwise.
kc
@Brachiator:
LOL. I’m sure the AIPAC attendees fuckin’ love having HRC tell them what they wanted to hear.
Cacti
@Chris:
Especially considering that goblue72’s prince of progressive purity lived on a kibbutz.
geg6
@kc:
Yeah, AIPAC always loves hearing about how great the Iran deal is.
David ?Canadian Anchor Baby? Koch
Also too, Reagan laid a wreath at a Nazi cemetery honoring the Waffen-SS.
MomSense
@Pseudonymous Bosch:
Oh my they really are that awful — and stupid.
kc
@geg6:
I generally ignore you and your periodic irrational lashing out at other posters, not to mention your hatred of Sanders, but LOL to this. Is that supposed to be a rebuttal? Her tepid comments regarding the Iran deal were the only part of her speech that didn’t get an ecstatic reception.
Gravenstone
@Brachiator:
Unpossible.
St. A
@Chris: Tangential: Not a study, a Margaret Atwood quotation, and I think instead of ‘assault,’ she said ‘kill.’ (Instead of an inner child, I have an inner editor.)
burnspbesq
Just out of idle curiosity, when was the last time an American political figure who matters didn’t kowtow to AIPAC?
Villago Delenda Est
Wingtard fucksticks will be wingtard fucksticks. What are you going to do?
goblue72
@Chyron HR: You think you are funny, don’t you?
goblue72
@burnspbesq: Obama, and he did it less than a year ago – http://www.nytimes.com/2015/08/08/world/middleeast/fears-of-lasting-rift-as-obama-battles-pro-israel-group-on-iran.html?_r=0
goblue72
@goblue72: Fixed link.
Chris
@St. A:
Don’t apologize. There aren’t enough editors in the world.
(This is me every time a friend asked me to review their paper. “… But what did you think of the whole paper? Does it make sense? Do you understand the arguments?” “Er… er… well, I don’t know if I’m the best person to ask, but look! You have typos here, here and here, that comma should be a semicolon, that semicolon should be a period, and that period should be a paragraph break, also this is really awkwardly phrased, these words should always have their first letter capitalized, plus Chicago style citations don’t work like that. And you ended that sentence with a preposition, you bastard!”)
gene108
@efgoldman:
John ban hammered him.
Bob got bored. He logged back in with a different e-mail.
sm*t cl*de
TIME magazine is evidently unaware of any difference between Che Guevara and Camilo Cienfuego.
goblue72
@Cacti: Only a gaping rectum would equate living on a socialist kibbutz in the 1960s with taking a hard-line pro-Israel stance in 2016. Or is Clinton’s teenage years as a Goldwater Girl relevant too?
Not that it matters either, but I am pretty sure that Shaar Ha’amakim, the kibbutz Sanders volunteered at, is not in the occupied territories and has been located in an area that has always been inside the Green Line.
Enhanced Voting Techinques
I recall Obama being denounced as a sell out the night he got elected 2008. Now Hilary doesn’t even need the nomation and she is already WORSE THAN OBUMMER!!(who’se worse than Bush)
Face it, Hilary AKA Obama’s mother by Joesph Stalin AND Hitler, created Trump!!!
geg6
@kc:
They weren’t tepid and that was exactly my point. They didn’t like it. I don’t hate Sanders. You have to actually care about someone to hate them. I think he’s average at best. You can’t hate average. You don’t vote for it either. Plus, I only vote for Democrats. Bernie is not one, so he doesn’t get my vote.
SiubhanDuinne
@efgoldman:
gobwue?
chopper
@SiubhanDuinne:
I think “gaping rectum” works better.
Cacti
@goblue72:
Only one candidate has ever lived as a squatter in a Jewish-only settlement in Israel.
His name sounds like Shmernie Shmanders.
St. A
@Chris: Sounds true to my life!
Emily68
With Reagan and Lenin it was totally different. http://cache4.asset-cache.net/gc/50410119-american-president-reagan-speaking-at-moscow-gettyimages.jpg?v=1&c=IWSAsset&k=2&d=OCUJ5gVf7YdJQI2Xhkc2QHcDrYL2tQfjr0V2Xmfq42kxfwPo6NTrhndONGa6oP1hmQjPx7vDl9xF80A9%2FBhNeuMF4WOj1RC6VgY3y28gVAs%3D