Yeah, I’ll pass:
It’s nice to see that Rump is breeding a new age group of budding young sociopaths.
Speaking of misogyny, apparently I am one for agreeing with someone about there not being enough room in a fridge for ten mason jars of salad.
Did you just deliberately misinterpret something I said to mansplain food to me? https://t.co/Q29rlPDGkX
— Andrea Grimes (@andreagrimes) April 11, 2016
I handled it with my usual class and dignity and said “go fuck yourself, sunshine,” which I learned is an attempt to assert, and I quote, “creepy daddy dominance.”
People are hostile out there kids. I blame Obama. Or the superdelegates, those bastards.
*** Update ***
“Rump.” Best typo ever?
Baud
That’s creepy now?
I don’t like this brave new world.
guachi
I can’t even begin the fathom how you could “mansplain” food. Are there people who actually and unironically use -splain?
different-church-lady
@Baud: What will a Baud! administration do to curb the creeping threat of dominant Daddies?
John Cole
@guachi: Who knows? Maybe she was just having a bad day and as some have said, a lot of women on twitter get death threats just for existing. Just weird she chose to unload on that. Whatever.
Trentrunner
Being falsely accused of mansplaining is a burden we have to bear for the centuries of actual mansplaining.
It’s happened to me. It doesn’t feel good. But I’ll deal with it.
different-church-lady
@guachi: “THE CHEESE-WIZ GOES ON TOP OF THE TORTILLAS, BITCH!”
redshirt
Who is Andrea Grimes and why are you harassing her?
Luther M. Siler
I feel like making sure that, what– hundreds? Thousands? more people know about this exchange is not really helping. You were mansplaining. She was talking about how Mason jars don’t fit in fridges and your response was “Mason jars don’t fit in fridges, you know.” It’s probably not the worst thing you’re gonna do this week, but you did it.
Baud
Dammit, Alain. I said purple, not puke green.
redshirt
@John Cole: Whoa, Royal Green.
Baud
@redshirt: She’s the woman who lost to McConnell in Kentucky. I don’t know why Cole is tweeting about mason jars with her.
Felonius Monk
Kasich is nearby, speaking a short distance north of me. Trump is holding a rally now a few miles south of me. So, here I am stuck in the middle with you.
different-church-lady
Alain, you stop fiddling with the tint control right this second!
guachi
I’m in the Navy and tomorrow at work I want to try and keep a straight face while I ask my boss if she’s “Chief-splaining” to me.
Major Major Major Major
This came through on my text alert. “New post on Balloon-Juice: No. Fuck You.”
Ahh, I thought. Always good to see a Cole post.
@different-church-lady: I’d suggest the opposite tack. Call up Rob Halford and get the ball rolling on the leather daddy endorsement circuit.
different-church-lady
When I see two people arguing about mason jars on Twitter, I think to myself, “Thank god there’s billions of dollars of infrastructure behind this!”
redshirt
@different-church-lady: What a country!
John Cole
I’m just commenting again to assert my creepy royal green dominance.
MattF
@Baud: First, Day-Glow bagels– and now this. Internet traditions, not to mention the canons of taste, are being violated.
John Cole
@guachi: Have fun on extra duty, holmes.
redshirt
I think I’m having a flashback.
Everything’s pink and green.
different-church-lady
@John Cole: But will you use your power for good, or… aw, screw it, you’re just gonna waste your power trolling your own blog.
Matt Mangels
“I’m not mansplaining. It’s just when men talk, some people think we’re mansplaining.”
redshirt
@John Cole: So you wanted different colors for FPers? And a special color just for yourself?
MattF
@John Cole: Did you know that the human visual system can perceive colors that don’t exist in nature?
Baud
Maybe the green will help entice Cole to read the comments.
Jim, Foolish Literalist
I’m glad young Jack had time to opine on misogyny before he left to join a Peshmerga-aligned militia to take the fight to ISIS
I”ve seen that chopped salad in a jar thing, but if you stored it that way wouldn’t it get all rotted from the condensation?
Baud
Mr. McGee, don’t make Cole angry. You wouldn’t like him if he’s angry.
redshirt
@Baud: LOL! Good one.
chopper
@Luther M. Siler:
i think the point was supposed to be that canning jars are really designed for cupboard storage, not the fridge. i dunno if that’s mansplaining, but what do i know.
i would have figured in the first place that complaining in public that you can’t fit a bunch of mason jars in your fridge is kinda, well, inane, but that sort of thing is i guess what twitter is really all about. first world problems like “you know, this hamburger meat is a little fatty”.
Major Major Major Major
Oh god, now it’s green.
I’m with Cole on this one, he was just randomly explaining something that she probably already knew and happens to be a man. From her thread, it also wasn’t clear that she… knew that? Not ‘knew’, but, I mean, the refrigeration aspect of mason jars wasn’t part of the discussion, so of course it wouldn’t have come up one way or the other.
Or whatever. I know I’ve had times where I’ve been on a hair trigger to see things that weren’t there like that.
Calouste
@John Cole: The only connection I see between this green and royalty is as the color of a poisonous substance being used to speed up the succession to the throne.
different-church-lady
@redshirt: Ever since the blog took LSD, it’s been a fundamentally better blog. More pink… and green… and electric blue.
Bobby Thomson
That was a typo?
Major Major Major Major
@chopper:
Here is a quality example of just that sort of tweet from yours truly earlier today. Why people take this platform so seriously is beyond me.
jl
The obscene insult was OK, but adding ‘Sunshine’ was sexist micro-aggression.
What does salad have to do with mason jars anyway? This some West By God Virginia cuisine thing the rest of us wouldn’t understand?
Are ramps or road kill involved? Or salad pickled in moonshine?
Luther Siler
@chopper: It is when the original tweet clearly demonstrates that the woman in question understands that Mason jars don’t go in fridges, and that that is, in fact, what she’s actually talking about. “I don’t know where y’all are getting these fridges” is another way of saying “this type of refrigerator does not exist.”
ThresherK
@different-church-lady: Would you rather he mess with the horizontal hold?
I owe my skill at tuning an analog radio to having grown up with the horizontal and vertical hold (and the need for them). You kids with your keyboard-operated music and info boxes wouldn’t know.
Alain the site fixer
@Baud: lol the yellow grey looked like nothing so this will do tonight, unless John yells.
different-church-lady
@chopper: “It’s where you go to win a conversation that nobody’s having.”
redshirt
@Alain the site fixer: So the pink is real? Not my head injury?
Alain the site fixer
@redshirt: no. It used to be so as I recall and since I was in there anyway, why not mark front pager comments. I’m sure it will be thrown out shortly.
different-church-lady
@jl:
“Micro” nothin’.
different-church-lady
@redshirt: Not mutually exclusive.
chopper
@Luther Siler:
getting pretty legalistic here regarding a tweet about having trouble fitting jars in your fridge.
i guess it was pretty stupid for cole to point out that mason jars don’t go in fridges, about as stupid and inane as it was for the woman to tweet it out in the first place. whoopee.
chopper
@different-church-lady:
any achewood reference is a win in my book.
AkaDad
Creepy dads are people too. Stop persecuting me!
John Cole
@jl: I’d say and have said sunshine to anyone with that sort of charming personality. You can ask about 400 people here for proof.
redshirt
@different-church-lady: Far out. Enjoy my trip, y’all.
redshirt
@John Cole: I can’t recall you calling anyone “sunshine” here. And I have an etch-a-sketch memory.
NotMax
@John Cole
Closer to Exorcist green.
John H
i prefer to avoid all micro aggressions: “go fuck yourself you fucking fuckboy” may have been more appropriate
lollipopguild
John needs a nice royal gold color not a 1960’s puke green.
different-church-lady
@John H: fucking fuckPERSON.
Luther Siler
@chopper: Did you notice the part where you responded to me? You could have said nothing. So could John. Instead, he went from mansplaining to “I’m agreeing with you” to “go fuck yourself, Sunshine” in three Tweets and then bitched about it on his website that has a vastly larger reach than his twitter feed does. The proprietor of the site fucked up in what was originally not a very big way and has proceeded to escalate the situation twice.
Don’t want to talk about this any more? Fine. Watch, I won’t say another word.
lollipopguild
Who is calling who “sunshine” Sunshine?
Alain the site fixer
It’s technically electric mucus. Really, it’s a gray on the green spectrum. Blue and yellow are too close to the site gray for my tastes so was hoping to add a flair to mark front pager comments. Obv green was a poor choice due to snark, even though it looks pleasant and non-threatening. ‘t could be much worse..did anyone see the dark red I chose first a few hours ago for proof of concept? Lol
Mnemosyne
Example #1,853 of why Cole is still single.
schrodinger's cat
I don’t like these twee mason jar salad/dessert recipes either, they are stupid and are blogger, instagrammer fodder.
chopper
@Luther Siler:
you seem upset.
schrodinger's cat
@Alain the site fixer: Green for bile?
redshirt
I’m not even sure who’s angry at who right now.
Can I get a summary?
different-church-lady
@redshirt: All of them, Katie.
WereBear
@efgoldman: I can bring in Batman from a weak affiliate with just a younger brother and a strip of tinfoil.
John Cole
@redshirt:
I don’t even know what that means. One small bump and your mind goes blank?
NotMax
@Alain the site fixer
Humbly suggest exploring the world of beiges and tans.
Also, in case you didn’t see it earlier, the glitch of videos on front page posts being the wrong ones, but correct when viewing on the comments page, has returned. FF latest build, Win 7.
Mnemosyne
@Luther Siler:
And yet I don’t think a single person here has been on Cole’s side in the actual dispute. More like,There he goes again.
Also, IMO, another potential sign of undiagnosed ADHD, but nobody listens to me.
Jim, Foolish Literalist
@schrodinger’s cat: applause
redshirt
@John Cole: Pretty much. I like how your response is in green but my quote is still in plebian pink. Classy!
Alain the site fixer
@NotMax: give me a a magic hex color my friend! I’ll run to the top floor and enter it immediately! Green was just temporary! Glad it drove some reaction and subsequent discussion!
delk
I don’t know. My fridge is pretty full right now and i bet I could get at least 5 mason jars in it.
WaterGirl
@Major Major Major Major:
Jinx.
chopper
@Mnemosyne:
that’s because everyone has adhd.
Major Major Major Major
@redshirt: There’s pink? (I have f.lux on so I don’t always see the subtle stuff?)
Alain the site fixer
@redshirt: there is no pink. I made front pager comments if logged into the site green. In comparison I cannot say what colors you see.
Comments now also alternate between the normal site background color and one shade different to provide an additional visual cue that a comment had changed. I can see that the combo with variable third color can make color weird, relatively.
Shell
Cletus from the Simpsons,,,was that you?
Major Major Major Major
@chopper:
whuh?
jl
@John Cole:
” I’d say and have said sunshine to anyone with that sort of charming personality. You can ask about 400 people here for proof. ”
Jesus! You’ve punched 400 people around there in the neck? And the law never caught up with you?
Mnemosyne
@chopper:
Everyone here does, but I’ve heard that normals exist out there somewhere, maybe in what they call “meatspace.”
My husband swears that ADHD is contagious, but he’s just being a baby about having to keep up with me.
NotMax
@Alain the site fixer
Okey-dokey. Possibilites:
Seashell FFF5EE
Papaya White FFEFD5
Bisque FFE4C4
Navajo White FFDEAD
Old Lace FDF5E6
Antique White FAEBD7
ThresherK
@efgoldman: Of course radios didn’t have VH and HH. (I should wrote better the first time around.) It’s the same knack of tuning from those knobs on a TV to getting a station on radio, especially how it used to be on FM where a middling signal could only be zeroed in on in one direction depending on the adjacent signals and capture effect.
John Cole
@Luther M. Siler: A.) She has far more reach than me.
B.) I still don’t understand why what I said was so offensive to her when I was agreeing with her. Twitter only has 140 chars and I used everyone and thought I was laughing with her and she unloaded on me. I mean, I was following her because I like her writing and work, not because I hate her or think she’s some dumb wimmenfolk.
C.) I disagree with your assertion that posting this escalates it. It’s out there. Should I memory hole it? I’d argue the bigger problem is her throwing out mansplaining and the people that have apparently harassed her to the point that she reacts that way.
D.) A politician once said that a leopard can’t change his stripes. Come out swinging like that at me, especially when I was trying to be friendly, and you’re gonna get a fuck you very much in response.. Sorry. I’m human, too.
John H
I’m on Coles side here. the initial comment was pretty tame. Is it universally obvious that mason jars are used for long term food preservation as opposed to just being a pretty container? (No). Someone that runs a blog featuring weekly garden updates may have a bigger interest in the original intent of mason jars (as compared to typical Pinterest user). Serious question: is this comment mostly sexist, age-ist, or just universally ignorant, it wouldn’t be balloon juice if one of you fuckers weren’t offended.
John Cole
@Mnemosyne: Wait- are we back on diagnosing me again?
gogiggs
@different-church-lady: I want to take this comment out behind the middle school and get it pregnant!
redshirt
@Alain the site fixer: The background is now not a pink/salmon?
As I stated earlier, I might be having a flashback/concussion related incident.
Major Major Major Major
@NotMax: I like Antique White, having just fiddled around in the console.
jl
Maybe, being a man, I do not get it. But there is a difference between being an equal opportunity truculent boorish ass and mansplaining.
Which I suppose is going sideways on Cole being in the right or wrong, but that is how I see it.
Edit: But WV ways are not my ways, so what do I know about it?
NotMax
@John Cole
Leopards don’t have stripes.
/nitpick
debbie
@Baud:
These colors are very faint on my screen, but I think he’s just screwing with you guys because of all your complaining.
Major Major Major Major
@NotMax: And that’s why they can’t change them.
redshirt
@NotMax: Tiger don’t change his spots.
JosieJ (not Josie)
@redshirt:
That, or you’re trapped at an AKA convention.
different-church-lady
@gogiggs: There’s this “Comment of the Year” tradition. It requires nominations. Hint hint.
NotMax
@redshirt
Also too, you can lead a horse to water but you can’t lead a horticulture.
gogol's wife
This whole post and thread is just proving to me that I have no desire to ever understand what the hell Twitter is.
scav
Oh the idea of calling down #000000 on certain comments is conceptually appealing.
divF
@NotMax: Yes you can, but you can’t make them think.
catclub
@Calouste: Creme de menthe?
LAO
I saw this Twitter spat go down in real time, and I stand with Cole. As a woman, I like to pull out the “mansplaining” charge when a man is condescendingly explaining why I’m either wrong about something or I have failed to properly understand something. Not when the guy agrees with me.
Twitter is fucking ridiculous.
cokane
“mansplaining” has just become a lazy catch all for a man saying something someone doesn’t like. it’s sort of like how “trolling” became completely denuded of meaning. i’m sure you’re right tho Cole, she was probably just not in the mood for some shit and the brevity of twitter makes everything look like snark.
Amaranthine RBG
@chopper: @chopper: @chopper:
Or maybe because some people confuse ADHD with being an asshole.
Jim, Foolish Literalist
@Amaranthine RBG: people often ask if you have ADHD, do they?
NotMax
Actually, Mr. Cole’s comments in ALL CAPS and blinking text might sometimes better reflect intent.
:)
kc
@John Cole:
She’s just an asshole.
Major Major Major Major
@Jim, Foolish Literalist: I see what you did there.
goblue72
@Jim, Foolish Literalist: Its a thing that started off as a reasonable thing and then took a left turn at Twee and totally didn’t arrive at Pismo Beach as originally planned.
Basic idea is that its a vertical tube (compared to a typical square, flat tupperware) and you put dressing at the bottom, and then big chunky vegetables and the lettuce and lighter stuff goes on top. Idea is you keep your lettuce and such from getting soggy from the dressing, tomatoes, cucumbers, etc while its in the fridge at work, and then you just shake it up when its time to eat. You could bring your dressing separately and a separate contained for lettuce, but then you gotta bring two or three things and who the heck wants to drag all that crap to work on the subway?
Why anyone would want to pre-make 10 of these things (basically two weeks of salad) wind up with browny and slimy lettuce is beyond me. That’s just stupid. Idea is its just an easy way to brownbag a mixed salad on your way out the door in the morning (or at most, the night before).
WaynersT
WHERE DID THIS GREEN COME FROM?
SOYLENT GREEN IS PEOPLE!!!
PEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEOPLE!
schrodinger's cat
@Jim, Foolish Literalist: It makes for a cute twee photo, which is what most food bloggers are interested in.
schrodinger's cat
@gogol’s wife: Its good for quick overview. For example, I check the Twitter feeds of a couple of journalists from India instead of going to elebenty websites and click on the links in the tweets if interested.
ETA: Stuck in moderation, so I am posting again.
WereBear
@NotMax: Wasn’t there a Frasier episode that had this same discussion? Shades of white?
Mnemosyne
@John Cole:
When did we ever stop?
geg6
@delk:
Seriously. In fact, I bet I have five mason jars in my fridge right now. Definitely pickles and jam from last year’s canning that we are using up. Probably some applesauce plain tomatoes and tomatoes with basil. They fit, no problem. How many mason jars of salad does she need anyway?
Amaranthine RBG
@Amaranthine RBG:
Sometimes the posts just write themselves.
@kc:
ThresherK (GPad)
@divF: Algonquin Club or garden club? Or both?
Mnemosyne
@John Cole:
Okay, if you were agreeing with her, then it’s weird for her to suddenly pull out the “mansplaining” card. I guess it’s one of those things that’s hard to get across in 140 characters.
Adam L Silverman
@Alain the site fixer: I vote for a nice claret color. Or perhaps violet.
Isobel
@NotMax: O.M.G. This comment about made me die laughing. Well done.
divF
@ThresherK (GPad): I have a round table in my yard, so both.
Ruviana
@jl: Salad in Mason jars sounds very twee. Mason jars are the hot new over-used design thing.
ETA: Or more or less what @Schrodinger’s Cat said to Jim.
chopper
@schrodinger’s cat:
and you have to make sure the background of the pics show off your shit so half the posts are all “you have such great taste in furniture!”
seaboogie
@Alain the site fixer: Green is actually the original color therapy in hospitals, although we should probably adopt whatever color is currently in vogue in the psychiatric ward for our little corner of heaven.
Jim, Foolish Literalist
OT: this Trump charity story– currently featured on the Hayes show– is amazing even given all we’ve seen in the last few months
Amaranthine RBG
#Notallmasonjars
NotMax
@Adam L. Silverman
Regardless, always good practice to pull the shades (or close the blinds), turn off all the lights in the room and see how glare-y colors look on the monitor that way, then tone them down as needed.
different-church-lady
Why is there no Ladysplaining? I DEMAND EQUAL TREATMENT!!!!
Joel
Mason jar salads? McDonalds covered that shit first.
I loved those things by the way.
Jim, Foolish Literalist
@WereBear: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rGA8z3ycKcE&nohtml5=False
different-church-lady
@seaboogie: Institution Greeen
WaterGirl
@Adam L Silverman: A nice pale violet would be lovely!
Mnemosyne
@different-church-lady:
It’s because we’re always right, of course.
;-p
Mnemosyne
@WaterGirl:
Cost Plus has purple mason jars. I have resisted them so far because you have to buy 6 at a time, but they’re very tempting.
WaterGirl
@Mnemosyne: Oh, I thought we were talking about violet as an alternate color to the green color for the front-pager comment. I need to keep up!!!!
Joel
@Mnemosyne: just use iodized salt in your next batch of pickles.
redshirt
@WaterGirl: It’s pink now, right?
Is everything pink? I’m flipping out!!!!
NotMax
@Mnemosyne
In pure decoratorspeak, that would be amethyst. Or if darker, plum.
;)
Adam L Silverman
@Alain the site fixer: That looks wonderful! Well done! Now we just need some throw pillows and some nice curtains to tie the site together!
chopper
@Joel:
(shudders)
Adam L Silverman
@WaterGirl: Ask and ye shall receive. Seek and ye shall find.
seaboogie
Here is some Bernie-bro man-splaining from DougJ’s favorite blog….
Mnemosyne
@WaterGirl:
I’m always in favor of purple in any context. My dentist’s assistant calls me “the violet lady,” which worried me the first time since she has a bit of an accent and I misheard her.
WaterGirl
@Mnemosyne: My mom’s bedroom was always a lovely pale shade of violet, so that color brings up fond memories for me. And I do love my purple pens!
a hip hop artist from Idaho (fka Bella Q)
@Jim, Foolish Literalist: Yes. And ugly form the raw chopped edges prior to that. Yum.
Says the woman who has 5.75 mason jars filled with Lundbergs wild blend rice in the pantry. On sale in bulk; someone not I was filing the purchase bag. On the upside, it’s quite jar/shelf stable.
seaboogie
@Mnemosyne: We had a lovely woman from Tallahassee visit our Sonoma artisan jewelry shop a few weeks ago, and she was one of the purple ladies, looking for something in amethyst.
As it happens, the owner of the shop and I were in the back room preparing a return of jewelry pieces to one of our designers, and the owner Bess had in her hand at that very moment a pair of vintage amethyst and champagne diamond earrings that we were writing up for the return. So Bess trotted them up to the front of our little shop, and the earrings are now in Tallahassee with the lovely Jenny, who also sports purple undergarments – because ours is the type of shop where you can ask that sort of question. We had a ball together!
a hip hop artist from Idaho (fka Bella Q)
@LAO:
QFT, Hours after its statement. So sue me,
Alain the site fixer
@a hip hop artist from Idaho (fka Bella Q): how’s the alternating color for comments for youz. I know it’s not what it was, but is it better?
Uncle Cosmo
@Isobel: Lifted from Dorothy Parker: “You can lead a horticulture but you can’t make her think.” Just FTR.
Citizen_X
To use my college-boy fancy talk, one should not expect “go fuck yourself, sunshine” to be greeted with equanimity.
schrodinger's cat
@Alain the site fixer: Not BellaQ but me no likey. What is the purpose of the alternating colors, they strain my eyes.
Uncle Ebeneezer
Good rule for men: when a woman tells you you are Mansplaining, assume she’s right. Stop digging, apologize and go think about it until you get it. They know this stuff and sense it much better than we do (which is kinda the whole root of the problem.) Definitely do not double down on how you know what you said totally wasn’t Mansplaining because again, you’re probably wrong and just don’t see that yet. Same goes for when you slip up with pretty much any marginalized group of which you are not a member. Our privilege is what allows to say racist/sexist/homophobic etc., shit whilst being totally unaware of the fact that we are doing it. Cole’s tweet, though seemingly harmless and joking, can easily be interpreted as carrying an assumption that Andrea doesn’t know what mason jars are for, despite the fact that she was already talking about them and owns several.
Gex
Yeah, “sunshine” sets me off too. Totally believe that to you it is not a gendered thing. But to many women that is not going to come off well.
chopper
@Uncle Ebeneezer:
I think the fact that cole came off as mansplaining even though he was agreeing with the woman, outside of being representative of his general curmudgeonly nature, shows the deficiency inherent in in a communication medium such as Twitter. more nuanced stuff like snark doesn’t come through very well especially if you’re a bit clumsy to begin with.
glasnost
The anecdote by John, the one opening this thread, is literally a textbook example of why this approach can’t be applied as a rule. When you give a human being a free “I’m right and you’re wrong and I win this argument automatically because I said the word ‘mansplain'” card, they will, inevitably, one hundred percent of the time, begin to misuse it. As human beings, we like patterns. When you see them one place, you start applying them every place. Especially when the pattern is “this person saying something I don’t like is automatically wrong, and a bad person, for saying that to me”.
So… thanks, but no fucking thanks, thank you. Your philosophy, applied in this manner will never spread beyond a self-discrediting fraction, and you’re fulfilling a pitch-perfect walking cariacture at the moment. This was about fucking Mason Jars.
cokane
@Uncle Ebeneezer: no. judging someone’s arguments based on an inherent trait of theirs such as race or sex is fucking stupid
fuckwit
@Trentrunner: That’s pretty much it. I take it in stride as I sit upon 10,000 years of utter and total male dominance in the civilized world. If someone wants to call me out on that, they’re probably right, and if I care about their feelings, I’ll apologize.
Miss Bianca
@different-church-lady: Goddammit, I’m not sure it feels good to be laughing so hard at this…I think my Good Feminist card may get revoked.
@guachi: You too, man (?). Cut that shit out.
Miss Bianca
@redshirt: You didn’t grow up in Grosse Pointe, did you?
Omnes Omnibus
@Miss Bianca: Any private college in the ’80s.
Miss Bianca
@Alain the site fixer: Being that I’m a bear of very little brain, may I ask, What is the point of the coloring? A visual cue that a front-pager is IN DA HOUSE?
Miss Bianca
@Omnes Omnibus: (look of mingled awe and revulsion) REALLY? That vile preppy color scheme made it out of the land of my childhood?
ETA: Ann Arbor was still going thru’ the throes of a belated “hippy-freak” stage. Since what we think of as the 60s didn’t actually hit Michigan till the 70s.
Omnes Omnibus
@Miss Bianca: Of course. That and the LL Bean Norwegian sweater; I still own one. And, just as a side note, “I am a bear of very little brain and long words bother me” was my Law Review editorial board’s motto for our year.
ETA: Do you know Martin Blank?
Miss Bianca
@Alain the site fixer:
Never mind #164, should have read further down.
Miss Bianca
@Omnes Omnibus: Don’t tell me, let me guess…you were on Law Review and that was your idea?
ETA: Errr…Martin Blank? Guess not. Friend of yours?
Omnes Omnibus
@Miss Bianca: I was an editor and it was my proposal, yes. Blank*
*Best movie soundtrack ever.
Miss Bianca
@Adam L Silverman: Nice marmot, dude.
Miss Bianca
@Omnes Omnibus: Oh, Jesu Christe, *CLANG* I walked right into that one, didn’t I? Guess I have a “blank spot” with regard to that movie…only ever saw it once, and that under mild duress. Hardly remember it.
I am dead to you now, ain’t I. Well, I’ll review the soundtrack.
Omnes Omnibus
@Miss Bianca:
It was put together by Joe Strummer.
redshirt
@Miss Bianca: If you mean was I constantly under the threat of death, then yes. As a child and well into adulthood death was my constant companion.
chopper
@Omnes Omnibus:
which is why los fabulosos cadillacs is on it
Omnes Omnibus
@Miss Bianca: List
Miss Bianca
@Omnes Omnibus: In that case, then yes. Definitely time for a review. I’ve discovered that every time my ear gets snagged by something lately, it seems to involved the Mescaleros. Also, too, the Pogues…only man who could made a creditable substitution for Shane McGowan.
Omnes Omnibus
@Miss Bianca:
chopper
@Omnes Omnibus:
Ah yes and Mosley-era FNM. just perfect.
Omnes Omnibus
@chopper: There is an Oswald Mosley fascist joke in there somewhere.
mclaren
That’s why I love this election. Even the typos are gold.
mclaren
@cokane:
I judge people’s arguments based on an inherent trait of theirs all the time. The trait is “stupidity.” And my judgment is usually accurate.
mclaren
@guachi:
You can mainsplain anything. If a woman says the atomic number of gold is 78 and you point out that it’s 79, you’re “mansplaining.” And physics, by the way, is a hierarchical patriarchal dominance game designed to subjugate women without their realizing it. As Andrea Dworkin pointed out, all history is rape, and therefore so is all of physics.
To a certain minority of radical feminists, there is nothing a male can say that isn’t patronizing or mainsplaining or a microagression or an assertion of patriarchal privilege. Just as to a small but grotesquely vocal minority of males “with game” there is nothing a female can say that isn’t proof of hypocritical feminine addle-headedness and hormonal irrationality.
Dworkin-style radical feminism represents a singularity from which rational thought cannot emerge, just as Trump-style misogyny represents a black hole from which rational thought cannot escape. In a just universe, these two traits would encounter and annihilate each other, producing large amounts of gamma rays, as when an electron and a positron meet.
Omnes Omnibus
@mclaren: Wow, that was a tell about something.
Miss Bianca
@Omnes Omnibus:
IKR? Whooo-ee…I ain’t even gonna try to unpack that one. At some point you just gotta walk away. And so, good night!
Omnes Omnibus
@Miss Bianca: Cheers.
The Blog Dahlia
@mclaren:
Hey look, mclaren is pretending to know physics again.
Gretchen D
@John Cole: I love you, john Cole! And I hate mansplaining. I don’t think you were
different-church-lady
Ah. The McSpaliner is here.
Irony Abounds
@Uncle Ebeneezer: I would hate living in a world where you established the rules. A world where 90% of our time would be spent carefully thinking over every syllable of every word, of every sentence, with the result being simply bland nothingness. A world where professional victims get to set the tone for everything (something akin to floppers in soccer and basketball getting all the calls). No thank you. Let people get called out for screwing up, and let those who are falsely claiming victim status face the heat for being frauds.
As for Cole’s situation, whether he was wrong or not isn’t the point (although Sunshine isn’t really a gender specific term, so if I had to choose a side, it’s with Cole). It’s the fact that he is on Twitter at all that is the real problem.
sherparick
@Baud: That was Allison Grimes, not Andrea Grimes. I never knew the subject of Mason Jars and food storage in a refrigerator required deep feminist analysis or the impact of patriarchy on salads. I think a reply of “whatever” probably would have been just as infuriating to Ms. Grimes.
Paul in KY
@Luther M. Siler: Mason jars fit in my fridge. Maybe she needs a bigger fridge?
Paul in KY
@Baud: Wrong ‘Grimes’. That’s Allison who got smashed by the Senatortise.
Paul in KY
@John Cole: Shows up as Carolina Blue on my screen. Bet you love that.
Uncle Ebeneezer
@Irony Abounds: “let those who are falsely claiming victim status face the heat for being frauds.”
Umm…do you seriously think “false claims” of Mansplaining/Whitesplaining/Straightsplaining etc. outnumber legitimate claims? I don’t. Not even close. Do they happen? Of course. But they are far outnumbered by legitimate criticisms of Men being clueless and inadvertantly sexist. And yet…every damn one of those legitimate claims gets precisely the same defensive response “your just pretending to be a victim” in order to silence them. So I don’t know about you, but I’d rather err on the side that lets people on the lower side of the power dynamic (in this case women) to call out oppression as they see it, rather than reinforcing their oppression by engaging in or making excuses for widespread derailing/silencing tactics that allow men to continue to be dismissive of the problem behavior. Sorry, I guess I don’t see the feelings of these falsely accused men (and it’s happened to me before) as nearly as important as the feelings of the women who can’t/don’t speak up about real sexism because our society is always so worried about the poor aggrieved men and ridiculous slippery slopes that will never happen.
“I would hate living in a world where you established the rules. A world where 90% of our time would be spent carefully thinking over every syllable of every word, of every sentence, with the result being simply bland nothingness.”
Actually it’s really not that painful or difficult at all. All it takes is a measure of humility: knowing that your input is not needed in every conversation, and if you do decide to chime in on certain topics with people who have more direct knowledge of said topic, to avoid the common blunders that lead to offending them. You can Google whitesplain/mansplain etc., and see numerous articles by minority groups listing the most common and most irritating ‘Splaining examples and simply not do those things. It really doesn’t take much effort and the net loss of freedom (to just opine away on any topic with zero consideration of the audience/group) is pretty trivial.
Seanly
Twitter is still a thing?
Cleos
@redshirt: @different-church-lady:
Show some respect now. Mason jars and “fridges” have totally eclipsed Trump and his bros as an Issue.