Best law firm phone number ever:
This weekend went by way too fast. I’m watching “The Right Stuff” on Netflix. I’d forgotten what a great movie it is.
How are you winding up the weekend? Open thread.
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cbear
Hilarious.
I wonder if they’re associated with the fine attorneys at Dewey, Cheatam & Howe.
redshirt
John Cole does love us, that’s why he ignores us.
Mike J
Walked in the house 1.5 minutes ago, just back from the LD caucus. WE picked up one more delegate than we expected going in, so I’m calling it a moral victory.
BTW, I left my house to go to the caucus at 11:50 to get there by noon. It’s now 8:55. Jesus Christ.
burnspbesq
Form 4868. And a big check.
Gin & Tonic
@redshirt: You sure do spend a lot of time and energy thinking about what other people think.
burnspbesq
Is there an over/under on how many minutes after the polls close before New York is called for Clinton?
redshirt
@Gin & Tonic: You think?
Mike J
@burnspbesq: I <3 NY, so less than three.
burnspbesq
@Mike J:
If it’s a blowout for HRC, I am not going near Facebook on Wednesday. It will be massively ugly.
Omnes Omnibus
@burnspbesq: 2
redshirt
Imagine a world were you can have a message for any reason…
dww44
Just returned from a 5 day trip deep into the heart of Florida to visit family. Must confess that I thought we were conservative in my state just north, but if one goes by the numbers of billboards that are anti-abortion (graphically so, almost), anti gay (we perform marriage for one man and one woman!) and fundamental religious themes (Have you read the Bible? If so, it will scare the hell out of you!) then Florida wins hands down. Also saw more Trump stickers on vehicles. I now understand why the state has elected the sort of Republicans it has elected. Moderate is not even a twinkle in their eyes. Way way conservative.
burnspbesq
Would it be in poor taste to send a Black Knight t-shirt to my nephew who is a hard-core Berniac?
Mike J
@efgoldman: All day long, as metaphorical elbows were being thrown, I kept telling our troops, “this will all be over Tuesday.”
Betty Cracker
@dww44: Sumter County?
Major Major Major Major
@burnspbesq: Wait until the nomination is for sure going to Hillary. (You *do* have a time machine that goes back to Super Tuesday, right?)
WarMunchkin
Found something cool on the Bernie site: field office maps
Does HRC’s campaign have one?
Mike J
@burnspbesq: We were read a letter from Smith, our Dem congressperson from the 9th. He said that even though he was personally supporting Hillary, he promised to cast his supervote for whoever had the most delegates. Berners went wild. I don’t think they paid any attention to what he said, and seemed to think he said he’ll vote for whoever won the CD.
MikeBoyScout
@Mike J: A WA LD?
Hillz picked up one at WA 37th. 8 hours of “fun”
David ?Canadian Anchor Baby? Koch
@Mike J: how will this be over Tuesday?
I mean he and his innumerate followers will still go on pretending he can win.
burnspbesq
@Mike J:
Attention to detail, as a general matter, seems to be an issue with those folks. And it starts at the top.
rikyrah
That billboard is Hilarious!
Tom Q
@efgoldman: NY polls close at 8.
They’ve actually been reluctant to call races right at the hour this year, since exit polls have been sometimes wrong (OH, I seem to recall, read as Clinton/Sanders dead heat, but it was quickly clear Clinton won by double-digits); they wait for at least a few sample precincts, and, if they back up the exits, then they make the call.
MSNBC, however, generally “characterizes” right on the hour, and they’re very likely to say “Clinton and Trump well out in front”.
Or maybe not; MI flashbacks make me wary of any over-confidence this year.
MomSense
It is school vacation week so I’ve been cooking and fixing snacks for a bunch of middle schoolers. The characters in the movie kept saying Cape Horn which caused much laughter.
If you say Cape Horn out loud to yourself and think back to being age 12, you will understand.
They don’t seem to want to sleep which means I’ll be dragging some cranky kids up a mountain tomorrow. National parks are free this week so I’m going to two of them. Tomorrow Acadia and Friday Lowell.
Mike J
@MikeBoyScout: @MikeBoyScout: Thank you for your service. I stayed at mine until the last dog died. I didn’t run for CD caucus delegate, but our Hillary volunteer who whipped ran and won a delegate seat, so I volunteered to whip at the CD caucus. I may switch it up and nae nae though,
MobiusKlein
@dww44: I see the anti-abortion & pro bible billboards in the great heathen west of San Francisco. I think it’s just that billboards are cheap.
burnspbesq
Two weeks from tonight at this time, I will be on a plane heading home from ATL. Going down for the ACC men’s lacrosse tournament.
MomSense
@Mike J:
Ooh, watch me, watch me.
Just as long as you don’t do the stanky leg you should be fine.
amk
@burnspbesq: zero.
burnspbesq
Some of my favorite billboards are the homemade ones along I-5 in the Central Valley, blaming Obama and Pelosi for the drought.
Miss Bianca
@Mike J: Your caucus took that long??
Adam L Silverman
@Betty Cracker: Is that National Alliance billboard still up on 75? If so I’ll see if I can get a pic when I drive up to Gainesville on Tuesday.
burnspbesq
@amk:
I think i’ll bet the under.
Major Major Major Major
@burnspbesq: OBAMA-PELOSI CAUSED DROUGHT
HARRY REID DUSTBOWL
BURMA SHAVE
Adam L Silverman
@David ?Canadian Anchor Baby? Koch: Ni shagud nazad!
David ?Canadian Anchor Baby? Koch
So that’s his next fantasy. He’s going to lose the pledged delegate count and say elected pledged delegates should switch their votes, because what is more progressive than voter suppression (overturning the will and instruction of underlying voters).
redshirt
FREE SEX!
Now do I have your attention?
Mike J
@MomSense: Having volunteers on hand who understood what was going on, herded the cats, kept everybody including alts from leaving, was tremendously helpful. When rules arguments broke out, we had one person to go to who was not afraid to go forcefully argue our side. I’m convinced that at one point the others just started filibustering arguments because they thought they had an edge on alts and the longer they drug it out the more they’d pick up. We held our people for the most part. We did a better job proportionally anyway.
Major Major Major Major
@redshirt: you had me at free!
burnspbesq
@David ?Canadian Anchor Baby? Koch:
What Bernie needs, more than anything, is for Molly Ivins to descend from Heaven and explain the First Rule of Holes to him.
Bob In Portland
MomSense
@Mike J:
Good for you. The stories I’m hearing from you, Miss Bianca, and others remind me of some of the things the Ronulans tried at Republican State Conventions in 2012. I’ve been wondering if there is a contingent of Paul supporters who have switched to Sanders this cycle.
Major Major Major Major
@Mike J: So it’s basically a LARP.
David ?Canadian Anchor Baby? Koch
@Major Major Major Major: Shhhhhh. Obama controlling the weather is a secret.
This is actually the plot of a James Bond movie “Diamonds are Forever” and a Steven Seagal rip off “Under Siege 2 – Dark Territory”
danielx
@cbear:
Or possibly the equally well known firm of Gutt, Cutt and Flense.
Speaking of flensing, just finished doing taxes.
burnspbesq
@Bob In Portland:
And?
Felanius Kootea
That phone number made me laugh…
Still trying to wrap my head around the Dilma Rousseff impeachment proceedings in Brazil. Don’t know much about politics there but I’ve heard that she used some accounting gimmicks to make the economy seem better than it was before her re-election (this is the basis for her impeachment). Apparently, other Brazilian presidents have used the same gimmicks in the past and not been impeached. She isn’t being accused of personal corruption but some of the politicians impeaching her are. I’m wondering how much of it is political ineptness on her part and how much the fact that she’s a woman. Even her vice president is in favor of impeachment (but could later face the same charges!!!).
Mike J
@Major Major Major Major: Yes, that’s it.
I told one of our delegate candidates I voted for her because we need at least one soft spoken person to balance the loudmouthed assholes like me.
amk
papa francis not feeling the bern.
David ?Canadian Anchor Baby? Koch
@Adam L Silverman: Nach Hitler kommt uns! (photo)
Mike J
@efgoldman: Hillary only beats Cruz by 7 points. Of course that’s just Georgia.
? Martin
@Felanius Kootea:
I think the likely answer is that this is yet another low oil price domino to fall. Countries with state-owned oil companies relied on high commodity prices to prop up their national economies and state budgets. When those commodity prices fall – and fall hard – it can topple governments. I’m sure there are all kinds of other rationalizations for the impeachment, but had the cash been rolling in, I’m sure those would have all been overlooked.
For all of the complaints from the left and right, one of the stronger aspects of the US economy is that our tax base is pretty loosely coupled from any particular market sector and not having any nationalized sectors avoids temptations to rely too heavily on some oil or mineral discovery paving the way to an economic expansion.
benw
I’m glad this is an open thread so I can leave some METAL UP YOUR ASS. Note: I don’t think that link will work indefinitely, but for now Metallica’s performance of “Four Horsemen” should be near the top. I love how happy James looks during the breakdown.
Mnemosyne
@MomSense:
I think that’s where the worst internet and Facebook loudmouths have been coming from (present company mostly excepted).
WarMunchkin
@MomSense:
Yes, a significant number.
The Constitution is both genius and a mess. Also, does anyone know how to get data about local Hillary offices (contact info)?
MobiusKlein
@MomSense: @Mnemosyne: Yes, I have many of the Paul => Bern folks in my facebook feed. Some friends I’ve known for a while, in fact.
Mostly idealistic and disenchanted with status quo folks, with a libertarian bent.
Some we can pry away come November, some not so much.
James E Powell
@burnspbesq:
The talking heads may delay it a bit – squeeze in a few ads
Mike J
@WarMunchkin: Sign up at the web site. I got 14 phone calls from them before the caucus. Express interest and they will find you.
Linnaeus
Wings beat the Bolts at home. Yes!
magurakurin
@David ?Canadian Anchor Baby? Koch:
This is how they will continue pretending they can win.
Bernie’s response to the question about a must win in NY is initially a brush off of incoherent word salad. “the California?” “we could pick up a lot of delegates there?” But then, when he hits the second part his voice sharpens and the sentences and thoughts become clear. This part is disturbing: “I think a lot of the delegates, both PLEDGE delegates and super delegates, are looking at one very important fact.”
Uhm, the pledged delegates aren’t looking at any facts other than they are bound to vote for the candidate they are assigned to. Bernie is delusional at this point. The super delegates are never going to turn for him if his loses the pledged delegate count and the pledged delegates are not going to change their vote…they can’t. This is sad watching this man go down this path. The convention is going to be a whole lot of suck for them if they think they honestly have a chance of provoking some sort of floor fight for the nomination. Straight up crazy talk.
NotMax
@Felanius Kootea
That’s a very sketchy synopsis, skimming the surface and missing most of the backstory. This has been building for a while. And Lula (former president) is her very new vice-president, the previous one having resigned.
Massive (numbering over 3 million, over a half million in São Paulo alone) protests and the deepest recession there since before WW1, which Brazil has been suffering since late last summer, plus the international drop in oil prices, were far more of an impetus than anything even remotely to do with the fact that Rousseff is female. The middle class and privileged upper middle class are essentially up in arms, demanding something major be done (politicians being a more ready target than a behemoth like energy company Petrobras, the epicenter of the crisis). The opposition parties are on the receiving end, too, of as much blame and ire as is Rousseff’s party. Cherry on the top (although not in and of itself a source of the opprobrium) – Brazil boasts the most expensive cell phone rates on the planet.
magurakurin
@David ?Canadian Anchor Baby? Koch: doh, I should have read the thread before I posted
Felanius Kootea
@NotMax: Lula is not her new vice president – her vice president is Michel Temer. She tried to put Lula in her cabinet to avoid him being arrested but the supreme court blocked the appointment. I watched the impeachment proceedings live on BBC world news and was struck by the fact that they mentioned that some of the politicians impeaching her faced corruption charges themselves.
David ?Canadian Anchor Baby? Koch
@magurakurin: it’s okay. great minds think alike.
Felanius Kootea
@efgoldman: I know right? I kept thinking about that. Wouldn’t want to be an athlete heading to Brazil this summer.
ETA: I have visited Brazil before – it’s a beautiful country but this situation is a mess.
magurakurin
@David ?Canadian Anchor Baby? Koch:
I watched the clip as well. It was disturbing. I think Bernie has checked out and left no forwarding address at this point. Tomorrow will be interesting. I imagine Clinton will win, but who knows, really. It seems like a large portion of the electorate flat out doesn’t give a single fuck about policy or process at all. Slogans and righteous anger is the order of the day.
Dog Dawg Damn
The astroturfing in this election is unreal. On he politico Facebook story about lewandorsky’ slamming the Florida GOP the same comment spears five times, slightly reworded, by different accounts.
I imagine it’s only going to get worse.
Reading about what is going on in Brazil, I wonder if “social media” will be used as propaganda when non-state actors can imitate crowds and generate “support” for “progressive reforms”. We as a nation are far too disinterested in changing our antiquated and inequitable election system, and we may regret it one day.
There is no magic contract with God that ensures the US won’t suffer political upheaval. Hell, it has many times before and may well again. Soon.
David ?Canadian Anchor Baby? Koch
@magurakurin: the problem is he doesn’t know the current delegate count because his wife is too busy to print out a tally.
seaboogie
@burnspbesq:
Playing catch up, and the Universe is on my side because I am NOT having an anxiety attack. Upside of being a hot mess in general and with the IRS in particular, and having a couple of past years to address, is that the IRS sends a nice lady to your door, and they leave you a note and you now have a personal assistant in the agency with direct contact numbers who works with you so that you can finally be in compliance. The agents are so helpful and respectful (shout out to you Yutsano, in whatever capacity you work there!), that my anxiety dissipates and I can become more functional again. Still last minute, of course – but even managed printer issues with a certain amount of equanimity.
magurakurin
@David ?Canadian Anchor Baby? Koch:
That and Weaver whispering in his ear “she’s a witch, don’t listen to her words.”
Major Major Major Major
@efgoldman: What, the union thug and the ca$ino game?
magurakurin
@efgoldman:
When Uncle Joe finally sits Bernie down for a heart to heart. Breathe the free air again, my friend.
magurakurin
@Major Major Major Major:
always split aces and eights.
cckids
@MobiusKlein:
For several years here in Vegas, there was a billboard at the South end of the Strip that said “What happens in Vegas? GOD KNOWS.”
They finally moved it; turns out it was the focus for lots of deeply inappropriate pics & postings. (of course it was)
No matter where you go in this country, you’ll find some god-botherer who’s just got to let you know you’re hell-bound.
BillinGlendaleCA
@magurakurin: I spit 10’s, I live on the edge.
magurakurin
@BillinGlendaleCA: That’s definitely not basic strategy, but I guess if the count is right, some people will start to do that. I’ve heard it is one way pit bosses tell you are counting. Apart for counting, the math says you are better off with the 20, but I’m not much of a gambler or card player. I just memorized the basic strategy table for laughs. I only ever played for real a few times. During a stay at the El Cortez in Vegas. It was a thrill.
Linnaeus
@efgoldman:
I caught the end of the Blues/Hawks game. Very exciting.
BillinGlendaleCA
@magurakurin: Did I mention that when I did that, there was drinking involved?
magurakurin
@BillinGlendaleCA: In Vegas, that’s a feature not a bug. I’m not a gambler, but Vegas is an interesting place. Not sure if I’ll ever make it back there again, but I might.
BillinGlendaleCA
@magurakurin: True, but since I gave up the booze I think it’s a bit less interesting.
magurakurin
@BillinGlendaleCA: I can see that. I’ve been to Vegas six times. I was sober for the last four. Wasn’t in my right mind on the first two, but I wasn’t drunk either…not wanting to admit to interstate felonies. Three of the four were for rock climbing in the Red Rocks and only popped into town for the occasional shower and buffet gorging. The last time I took my Japanese father-in-law to gamble there. It was a gas. He played roulette. Kept betting 31 and 36 and won heaps of times. He later said he saw a police car in front with those numbers on it when we checked in, so that’s why he kept playing those numbers.
David ?Canadian Anchor Baby? Koch
@redshirt:
Paid for by a small transaction tax on Wall Street!
BillinGlendaleCA
@David ?Canadian Anchor Baby? Koch:
Isn’t that called college?
Darkrose
@burnspbesq: Yes! We drove from Sacramento to San Diego a couple of years ago, and those billboards were boggling. Maybe Obama really is the Antichrist if he can keep it from raining in California for several years in a row?
BillinGlendaleCA
@Darkrose: Listening to conservatives, Obama is quite amazing. He’s an inexperienced and ineffective buffoon, while at the same time is a dictator able to control the weather.
ed_finnerty
@NotMax: olympics shaping up to be fun this summer
dww44
@Betty Cracker: Went to Indian River County and their newspaper seemed very conservative. But it was just all the billboards going down the interstate and the turnpike that were revelatory for me. Perhaps we aren’t so issue focused in this state. Certainly we don’t appear to have such committed social issue followers that they are willing to pay for a big billboard.
dww44
@efgoldman: @efgoldman: As a citizen of one of the 5 core traitor states, I think there’s a possibility for the Dem candidate this go round, provided that there is a STRONG GOTV operation here. If the AA vote turns out, we stand a chance, but believe that our candidate has to have a real ground operation of the sort that Obama had. Even then, all our voters have to show up and be counted.
chopper
@seaboogie:
I use turbotax this year instead of an accountant so nobody better ask me to print out a copy of my return cause we all know that shit is impossible.
artem1s
@cbear: Better Call Saul!
Bob In Portland
I was an extra in “The Right Stuff”. One of the guys with the white shirt and black pants thirty rows up in the Astrodome (?) scene. The scene was actually filmed in the Cow Palace in SF.