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You are here: Home / Past Elections / Election 2016 / Late Night Comedy Open Thread: President Obama’s WHCD Gig

Late Night Comedy Open Thread: President Obama’s WHCD Gig

by Anne Laurie|  May 1, 201612:57 am| 117 Comments

This post is in: Election 2016, Open Threads, Proud to Be A Democrat, DC Press Corpse

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The CNN version, via TaMara. Fresh off the WhiteHouse Youtube channel. If a version shows up that includes cutaways to the people Obama singles out and the screen jokes, I’ll switch it in, but you can pretty well guess what they were anyway. And that THERE WILL BE BUTTHURT over the next few days, yes there will.

Keep in mind that Obama HATES the #WCHD and yet he can still be this good at this.

— Wyeth Ruthven (@wyethwire) May 1, 2016

Should’ve known the Guardian would do a liveblog…

… You can’t say that Larry Wilmore killed: his humor – as it normally is – was a bit more of the wait-did-he-really-say-that variety, which is definitely not in keeping with the typical WHCD crowd … which tends to think that he perhaps ought not to have said it. And, Wilmore’s jibes at CNN’s Wolf Blitzer and Don Lemon, MSNBC’s morning show juggernaut Morning Joe and the death of print journalism (all topics well-covered at the event in past years, but normally by the president) were pretty unpopular with the likely inebriated crowd, earning him a couple of loud boos from folks who probably ought to have known better.

Laughing at himself is a skill the president managed to perfect at these things over the years; it’s one that not all the journalists in attendance seem to have mastered (though Don Lemon pasted a smile on and waved at the crowd). At least his reception wasn’t so poor that, like the year after Colbert made fun of George W Bush, the association will be tempted to find the most banal, grandparent-friendly comedian possible.

And next year will bring a new president: the question now is whether that president will be able to laugh at him or herself, and how much material with which she or he will give the host to work…

They were not too proud to include red carpet pics, either — including Kerry Washington going full fangirl over Madeline Albright. And the Guardian‘s guests, Carries Fisher, Tom Hiddleston, and Carrie’s French bulldog Gary. Donald Trump did not attend, but he sent his grown sons Uday and Qusay, presumably to take notes on who laughed at the Trump jokes, for when the purges start.

Also in attendance, Senator Sanders:

. @BernieSanders at #WHCD , as promised, no tux. pic.twitter.com/p86MZoy2ku

— Kate Bennett (@KateBennett_DC) April 30, 2016

He chose not to wear a tux, because Bernie is a man of the people, as he performs demonstrates at every opportunity. Despite some analysts’ hopes, he did not walk out when the jokes were aimed at him. On the other hand, those jokes were pretty darned mild, even by #NerdProm standards.

Company-town paper of record the Washington Post gave its approval, including a serious note:

… The sponsoring White House Correspondents’ Association saluted Washington Post reporter Jason Rezaian, who was jailed by Iranian authorities for 18 months until his release in January. Rezaian, who attended the dinner with his wife, Yeganeh Salehi, and brother Ali, received a standing ovation when he presented a series of journalism awards. “This is a big and intimidating room,” he told the crowd, “but it beats solitary confinement.”…

And, to quote the President: “I don’t even have a joke here, I just think Helen Mirren is awesome” —

Dame Helen Mirren showed up at the White House correspondents’ dinner with purple gown, a purple tattoo near her collarbone and a plan to honor Prince.

The hand-drawn symbol is temporary, but the actress still wanted to honor the legendary singer, who died suddenly last week at age 57. “I admire great artists and he was a great artist,” she said, according to The Post’s Roxanne Roberts…

Lord knows, she didn’t have to make such an effort to get attention. From the time she arrived on the WHCD party scene Friday night, the Oscar winner was perhaps the most sought-after A-lister in town. At the dinner itself, she had a prime table with both Joe Biden and John Kerry. I mean, she is Dame Helen Freakin Mirren…

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  1. 1.

    Adam L Silverman

    May 1, 2016 at 1:00 am

    Thanks to someone’s Deity! I thought my last post broke the site!

  2. 2.

    redshirt

    May 1, 2016 at 1:03 am

    Bernie doesn’t have time for societal niceties.

    Now, vote for him to represent the United States of America!

  3. 3.

    Jim, Foolish Literalist

    May 1, 2016 at 1:04 am

    bears repeating

    John Cole ‏@ Johngcole 2h2 hours ago
    Morning Joe has their head so far up Trump’s ass they bumped into Chris Christie.

    John Cole ‎@ Johngcole
    You know who probably thought Wilmore did a good job and will probably call him tonight?

    Bill Cosby?

  4. 4.

    rikyrah

    May 1, 2016 at 1:05 am

    POTUS actually dropped the Mic!
    LOL

  5. 5.

    redshirt

    May 1, 2016 at 1:05 am

    I keep thinking WHCD is a TV station I’m not familiar with.

  6. 6.

    lige

    May 1, 2016 at 1:06 am

    Don Lemon actually flipped the bird at Wilmore and then realized he was on camera.

  7. 7.

    Anne Laurie

    May 1, 2016 at 1:08 am

    @Adam L Silverman: I felt a little guilty when I saw I’d be pushing down your excellent post, but then again, now people who want to make #NerdProm jokes have a place where they won’t worry about derailing serious foreign policy commentary.

  8. 8.

    LesBonnesFemmes

    May 1, 2016 at 1:09 am

    Dame Helen is God. I am dropping my mic right now.

  9. 9.

    Adam L Silverman

    May 1, 2016 at 1:09 am

    @Anne Laurie: Its fine. I had a window and took it because I wanted to get it on the site. Not everything requires a lot of comments.

  10. 10.

    Adam L Silverman

    May 1, 2016 at 1:10 am

    I’m watching Willmore now. That crowd is like the Hinkley jury!

  11. 11.

    seaboogie

    May 1, 2016 at 1:13 am

    @Adam L Silverman: One L in Wilmore… /pedant

  12. 12.

    Dr.McCoy

    May 1, 2016 at 1:13 am

    @LesBonnesFemmes: –“Prime Suspect” my first introduction. Was smitten.
    Remain so. Because I advance in years, but she doesn’t.

  13. 13.

    Adam L Silverman

    May 1, 2016 at 1:14 am

    @seaboogie: I’ve asked Alain to give me a button that inserts an animated pair of eyes rolling.

  14. 14.

    seaboogie

    May 1, 2016 at 1:16 am

    @rikyrah: That was cool. And I hope he does it again just before he leaves office on his way to the Presidential helicopter (or is that mode of transport only for the ones who are chased out?)

  15. 15.

    TaMara (HFG)

    May 1, 2016 at 1:17 am

    Anne Laurie, I was watching CSPAN’s video when you put this up. It has the cutaways.

  16. 16.

    Anya

    May 1, 2016 at 1:25 am

    Princess Leah and Loki were an odd couple. But I liked seeing them together.

    I thought Larry Wilmore was funnier than that room gave him. I just think using the ‘N word’ was ill-advised and out of place. Now people are not going to focus on his incredibly heartfelt points on what a black POTUS meant to him. We’ll see all the idiots clutching their pearls and obsessing over the use of the N word. Ugh!

  17. 17.

    Adam L Silverman

    May 1, 2016 at 1:27 am

    @Anya: I don’t think the majority in that crowd would get what Wilmore did last evening even if someone explained it to them slowly. They were never going to focus on the heartfelt bit, just on him sliding the knife into them over and over and over again.

  18. 18.

    Anya

    May 1, 2016 at 1:41 am

    @Adam L Silverman: I am sure you’re right. It always amazes me how thin skinned they are, specially for people who target and criticize others for a living. They can’t handle mild jokes at their expense. They must know deep down what Wilmore was saying has merit. They just sold their integrity and they don’t want anyone reminding them.

    I actually thought one of the most brutal parts of the night was POTUS saying to Reince P: “Congrats on all your success. The Republican Party, the nomination process. It’s all going great!”

  19. 19.

    opiejeanne

    May 1, 2016 at 1:42 am

    I wanted to be at Biden’s table even before we noticed Helen Mirren sitting with him. I figured that would be the fun table just because of Joe Biden.

  20. 20.

    opiejeanne

    May 1, 2016 at 1:47 am

    @Anya: It took me a while to understand the bit about Hillary asking people to help her push the big rock up the hill. My husband asked me about Sisyphus and the light dawned: she does have a Sisyphean task.
    Trump was undoubtedly sulking somewhere tonight; I love AL’s comment about Uday & Qusay. God knows what Cruz was up to tonight, probably off Zodiac killing some people.

  21. 21.

    redshirt

    May 1, 2016 at 1:48 am

    Did R-Money show up to this back in 2012? I assume no.

  22. 22.

    opiejeanne

    May 1, 2016 at 1:48 am

    @Adam L Silverman: That knife job by Wilmore was delicious. The audience was awfully quiet while that was going on.

  23. 23.

    Adam L Silverman

    May 1, 2016 at 1:50 am

    @opiejeanne: And the looks on their faces were amazing. They knew they were supposed to be unhappy, but they really weren’t sure why.

  24. 24.

    scav

    May 1, 2016 at 1:51 am

    I was rather fond of

    I don’t want to spend too much time on The Donald. Following your lead, I want to show some restraint. Because I think we can all agree that from the start he’s gotten the appropriate amount of coverage befitting the seriousness of his candidacy. Ha. I hope you all are proud of yourselves. The guy wanted to give his hotel business a boost and now we are praying that Cleveland makes it through July.

    It was so exactly poised on that line of is it a joke or not. An invisible punch line, also delicately poised between alternative definitions.

  25. 25.

    redshirt

    May 1, 2016 at 1:51 am

    @opiejeanne: Did Wilmore move the Overton Window? Because the real window isn’t with political parties but with the media and what they choose, collectively, to accept or reject.

  26. 26.

    redshirt

    May 1, 2016 at 1:52 am

    @scav: LOL. I’m laughing again. That was sublime.

  27. 27.

    Anya

    May 1, 2016 at 1:54 am

    @opiejeanne: Donald Jr. was on CNN with his wife and they were bragging about how Trump is so funny and can take a joke. I was like, sure he can. POTUS even made a dig at his inflated income.

  28. 28.

    Mnemosyne

    May 1, 2016 at 1:56 am

    @opiejeanne:

    I think somebody else here came up with the Uday and Qusay thing, but now I can’t remember who it was.

  29. 29.

    redshirt

    May 1, 2016 at 1:56 am

    @Anya: It will be interesting to see what Donald says in response to this roast. Does he ignore it? Or does he actually respond to the jokes?

    Smart response would be to ignore it. Let’s see.

  30. 30.

    Anne Laurie

    May 1, 2016 at 1:59 am

    @opiejeanne:

    Uday & Qusay.

    Confession: I stole that from the Guardian, where they use it for the Junior Trumps on a regular basis.

  31. 31.

    Mnemosyne

    May 1, 2016 at 2:02 am

    @Anne Laurie:

    Okay, I knew I saw it somewhere else first. I hate when the Brits beat us to a good joke.

  32. 32.

    patroclus

    May 1, 2016 at 2:02 am

    @scav: It’s so accurate though. Every network, from the beginning of his “Mexicans are all rapists” candidacy, covered everything he said live, allowed him to just phone in appearances to all their chat shows, gave his rallies live over-the-top coverage, talked about him obsessively, presented him as a serious candidate – all the time. He just overwhelmed all of his Republican rivals and rarely had to spend even a dime on media and ads and all the sorts of things presidential candidacies have always had to do off their own dime. They covered him more extensively than even Obama, who is President. All the while sniping at Hillary and ignoring Bernie. It was shameful and Obama and Larry called them out on it tonight big-time.

    But moving the Overton window? I doubt it. The Trump over-coverage is how they make money and get ratings. It’ll continue and get even bigger as he gets a major party nomination; thus legitimizing their coverage choices. This is how Goebbles did it. And it’s happening here.

  33. 33.

    Mnemosyne

    May 1, 2016 at 2:08 am

    I admit, I’m only reading transcripts and live blogs right now, and this line of Wilmore’s made me snort-laugh:

    On Chris Christie: “He RSVP’d for three: him, his wife and Donald Trump’s dry-cleaning. Chris lost a lot of weight recently, didn’t he. He said he just eliminated everything from his routine that wasn’t necessary, like his self-pride and dignity.”

  34. 34.

    Adam L Silverman

    May 1, 2016 at 2:12 am

    @Mnemosyne: And all you could hear in the room was a pin drop when he finished delivering the line.

  35. 35.

    opiejeanne

    May 1, 2016 at 2:29 am

    @redshirt: To me it looked like he broke the fucking window, but I’m not the press and the pearl-clutching began almost immediately over the use of “my nigga”, although they dropped to word “my” before wailing about race-baiting.

  36. 36.

    opiejeanne

    May 1, 2016 at 2:30 am

    @Mnemosyne: It’s been used several times, but she used it up top so I just referenced that. Made me laugh the first time I saw it, and again tonight

  37. 37.

    Anya

    May 1, 2016 at 2:35 am

    This is my favorite tweet anticipating CNN and Don Lemon’s response:
    https://twitter.com/TheDiLLon1/status/726605621261377536

  38. 38.

    daves09

    May 1, 2016 at 2:41 am

    This is just so really shallow, but I don’t want a president who dresses worse than I do. Even the pants and jacket don’t match. We’ve had eight years of tremendous class and now a guy who looks like he dresses out of a laundry hamper. Oh well, he’s not going to be president, so not a problem.

  39. 39.

    amk

    May 1, 2016 at 2:42 am

    kenyan endorses hillary.

  40. 40.

    Marc

    May 1, 2016 at 2:45 am

    His field of fvcks is truly barren. That was a wonderful takedown of the media. The butthurt will be felt for days, but they painted the target on themselves by being so dogged over his term in their bothsiderism, and lapping up and repeating anything the wing nuts spouted about Obama.

  41. 41.

    RK

    May 1, 2016 at 2:49 am

    The FBI-Mafia dinner is almost as entertaining.

  42. 42.

    Mai.naem.mobile

    May 1, 2016 at 2:54 am

    Why did the WHPA even invite Larry Wilmore being that he replaced Colbert who they hated? Didn’t they figure Wilmore would be somewhat like Colbert? I’ve heard Julie Mason talk about Colbert and how his performance was inappropriate and she was on the team that hired Colbert that year. Hire Fallon if you want inoffensive kis sass stuff.

  43. 43.

    moderateindy

    May 1, 2016 at 2:59 am

    Anne Laurie, once again giving me a reminder why I can’t stand the Hillary lovers. Always so arrogant, and certain that they are “the adults in the room” yet never miss a chance to take a childish snarky shot at Sanders reminiscent of a junior high mean girl. So let me reply in kind, where was Hillary; seated at a table with Lloyd Blankfein, and Jaimie Dimon?

  44. 44.

    akryan

    May 1, 2016 at 3:13 am

    Whenever I think about the WHCD I remember that Obama managed sit there and laugh like nothing was amiss while there were helicopters in route to Bin Laden’s compound. Don’t play poker against the Bamz.

  45. 45.

    Amir Khalid

    May 1, 2016 at 3:14 am

    @moderateindy:
    Are you and your thin skin really taking the White House Correspondents Dinner so seriously?

  46. 46.

    amk

    May 1, 2016 at 3:17 am

    @moderateindy:

    Thank god, at least bernie can laugh at himself. Unlike his fanbois.

  47. 47.

    seaboogie

    May 1, 2016 at 3:22 am

    @Adam L Silverman: @Anya:

    I think that Larry was not fully on his game, and I don’t know if it was the writing or whether he was nervous or both. But I also have a sneaking suspicion that he was nervous about the final line that he was going to deliver, and since his speech was so race-conscious, that was a pretty big deal. We’ve been all ni-clang for a long while, and Wimore brought it tonight, to the President’s face. Wanda Sykes was the first host of the WHCD of Obama’s term, and Larry is the last. This was good. That the Village squirmed quite a lot tonight is even better.

  48. 48.

    ChrisH

    May 1, 2016 at 3:24 am

    Larry may have been a little off his game but I still enjoyed his set, and the ending was pretty moving, and he definitely kept it 100.

  49. 49.

    Anne Laurie

    May 1, 2016 at 3:30 am

    @moderateindy: Sanders can afford to rent a damned tux. The WHCD is one of those totally-optional events where you either decline the invitation, or you show up and do your best. Making a big point of slouching in wearing the everyday outfit is the sort of thing that’s very bold and so honest when it’s done by a budding rebel at the junior high mixer. On a man with grandkids that age, it’s just showboating.

  50. 50.

    opiejeanne

    May 1, 2016 at 3:43 am

    @daves09: I know. My husband spotted the mismatched pants/jacket combo. I felt a little guilty about saying Jane needed to spend just 30 minutes at a SuperCuts, but it’s true. She could have her hair bobbed and it would improve her appearance so much.

    And a Bernie fan tried to tell some of us that Jane would be a much better First Lady than Michelle.

  51. 51.

    opiejeanne

    May 1, 2016 at 3:46 am

    @moderateindy: Hillary was working on the campaign. All of the candidates were invited, only Bernie had time for this bastion of the Establishment, although he did thumb his nose at them by dressing inappropriately, so I guess they got told.

  52. 52.

    seaboogie

    May 1, 2016 at 4:23 am

    @moderateindy:

    where was Hillary; seated at a table with Lloyd Blankfein, and Jaimie Dimon?

    Yep, that’s exactly where she was. Or else she was having lunch with Pol Pot and/or Hitler. You should check with her social secretary. to be sure. OTOH, if it turns out she was doing a music video with Robin Thicke, I am totally down with whatever you are up for.

  53. 53.

    redshirt

    May 1, 2016 at 4:36 am

    @seaboogie: She was literally seen dining with Ted Cruz AKA Lucifer.

  54. 54.

    seaboogie

    May 1, 2016 at 5:21 am

    @redshirt: Literally…Cripes!

  55. 55.

    Tissue Thin Pseudonym

    May 1, 2016 at 5:30 am

    @redshirt: From the downstairs thread:

    I’m a full on Whedonite so I look out for these things.

    I guess I’m a half-Whedonite. I watched Avengers: Age of Ultron and emerged with a bruised forehead from banging it on my desk so much. The premise of the final fight was so mind-bogglingly stupid that the whole film fell apart. Of course, my forbearance on things stupid had been completely exhausted by the insistence that the Internet has a central hub in Oslo and that you can hack into the nuclear codes. And, large chunks of it scream, “Hey, two thirds of our principal actors are out of contract soon, so, uhm, what say we throw something together to be able to keep making the movies?”

    The fact is, Joss Whedon is terrible at world building. Nothing he’s ever worked on makes any sense. (With Firefly, you have to dig into some of the outside source material to realize how dumb the universe is, though I’m confident that it would have become apparent if he’d had enough episodes to show it.) He creates fantastic characters, and writes short term chunks that string together fantastically to allow those characters to develop over long arcs.

    Which is why he should stop making movies. Really, just stop. They don’t give him time to overcome the flaws of the ridiculous settings and concepts with long character arcs. He needs to swallow his ego and go back to series television. I’m sure FX or AMC or Netflix would love to have him on board and give him free rein. And I’m pretty sure the results would be a lot better than the movies he makes.

  56. 56.

    satby

    May 1, 2016 at 7:07 am

    Frustration! Am I the only person not seeing the video link at all, just a big white space? I rebooted the Kindle, so it shouldn’t be that.

  57. 57.

    satby

    May 1, 2016 at 7:10 am

    @Anne Laurie: This. Pointless teenage rebellion moves look absurd on a guy as old as Bernie. He’s just advertising that he hasn’t actually learned much in 60 years.

  58. 58.

    trnc

    May 1, 2016 at 7:14 am

    When asked whether President Obama would take shots at his father during the president’s final WHCA dinner, Eric Trump said his father would have the last laugh.

    “We’ll take some shots back next year. He who laughs last laughs longest, right?” Trump said to The Hill in the reception area before the annual dinner event.

    Eric, if you or your dad are looking for laughs next year, I suggest you stock up on buddy comedies or videos of rich people kicking homeless people or whatever cracks you up.

  59. 59.

    gindy51

    May 1, 2016 at 7:43 am

    @opiejeanne: And before anyone gets truly stuck on Sanders being one of the people, he and his wife make a FUCK of a lot more money than most Americans do. He and his wife looked like slobs, sorry but it’s the truth. It’s all an ACT and they showed how truly the disrespect the office of the President by showing up looking like a tame variety of People of Walmart.

  60. 60.

    Tegdirb

    May 1, 2016 at 8:05 am

    @moderateindy: She wasn’t in attendance, dumbass.

  61. 61.

    David ?Canadian Anchor Baby? Koch

    May 1, 2016 at 8:08 am

    @Mnemosyne: it was me..(link)

    Also too, I like the stuff AL posts.

  62. 62.

    bystander

    May 1, 2016 at 8:39 am

    I was shocked to learn from Michael Bloomberg that both sides do it!

    It seems that railing against religious and racial/ethnic groups is the same as saying that billionaires should pay more taxes. This has given Mike a superbig sad.

  63. 63.

    BR

    May 1, 2016 at 8:47 am

    I don’t get why people didn’t like Wilmore — he was a great followup to Colbert.

  64. 64.

    Matt McIrvin

    May 1, 2016 at 9:30 am

    @Tissue Thin Pseudonym: To be fair to Whedon, it sounds as if Ultron was damaged by the suits’ insistence on sticking all kinds of extraneous stuff into it to set up later movies. That doesn’t excuse the worldbuilding silliness, but it does explain the occasional incoherence of the storyline.

    It’s what makes me a little nervous about Civil War: it sounds like it also had to incorporate a lot of that. But the early reviews make it sound like they pulled it off.

  65. 65.

    Technocrat

    May 1, 2016 at 9:45 am

    I missed the WHCD last night, but just skimmed Wilmore’s transcript. Yikes. Did anyone laugh? I cringed just reading it, so I’d be surprised.

  66. 66.

    I'mNotSureWhoIWantToBeYet

    May 1, 2016 at 9:55 am

    @opiejeanne: The press has to have its sound-bite.

    I thought it was fine, especially in the context of his other remarks. Remember how he started:

    [The applause stopped pretty quickly, maybe before he was even at the lecturn.]

    Thank you, thank you very much. Thank you, thanks for keeping that applause going all the way, too, I appreciate that.

    Well, welcome to “Negro Night” here at the Washington Hilton, or as Fox News will report, “Two thugs disrupt elegant dinner in D.C.” That’s how they do us, right?.

    And Obama himself said earlier:

    Although, while in England I did have lunch with her Majesty the Queen, took in a performance of Shakespeare, hit the links with David Cameron. Just in case anyone was debating whether I am black enough, I think that settles the debate.

    The pearl-clutchers will clutch. Let ’em.

    My $0.02.

    Cheers,
    Scott.

  67. 67.

    I'mNotSureWhoIWantToBeYet

    May 1, 2016 at 10:06 am

    @Technocrat: It’s supposed to be, when it’s done right, a roast of the WH correspondents, national politics, etc. It’s not supposed to be a USO show or something.

    The people in the room have daily access to some of the most important people in the world and have the responsibility to tell the public the truth about what is happening. But too many of them think their job is to show how important they are, to put their own personal spin on their reporting, to blather about horse-race politics, etc. Too many of them are over-paid hacks. If their precious fee-fees are so delicate that they can’t be reminded of that one night a year, then they shouldn’t attend.

    Larry did very well.

    Cheers,
    Scott.

  68. 68.

    PsiFighter37

    May 1, 2016 at 10:17 am

    I’m going to have to watch this in the next couple of days. Wilmore’s outright insult of Wolf Blitzer to his face was absolutely delicious.

  69. 69.

    Hal

    May 1, 2016 at 10:19 am

    @Matt McIrvin: This. The first Avengers movie was great, but Whedon had to set up the next two Avengers films along with Civil War, and I think that caused some incoherence. I liked AOU but yes, parts of it were messy, with too much going on.

    Everything I’ve read about civil war has been very good with black panther and spiderman being great.

  70. 70.

    I'mNotSureWhoIWantToBeYet

    May 1, 2016 at 10:22 am

    @satby: Yeah, the video at the top of the page is gone now.

    Obama’s full remarks are here (32:38). Wilmore’s full remarks are here (22:21).

    Cheers,
    Scott.

  71. 71.

    mellowjohn

    May 1, 2016 at 10:28 am

    anyone clutching pearls at Wilmore’s last line hasn’t spent a great deal around African-Americans of a certain age.
    i spent many years as one of the few white teachers in an almost totally black school on the west side of Chicago. it was disconcerting at first to hear the N-word tossed around so casually and so often, but – like a lot of words – it has so many different meanings depending on how and when it’s used. and who’s using it.

  72. 72.

    Ben Cisco

    May 1, 2016 at 10:38 am

    @patroclus:

    It’s so accurate though. Every network, from the beginning of his “Mexicans are all rapists” candidacy, covered everything he said live, allowed him to just phone in appearances to all their chat shows, gave his rallies live over-the-top coverage, talked about him obsessively, presented him as a serious candidate – all the time. He just overwhelmed all of his Republican rivals and rarely had to spend even a dime on media and ads and all the sorts of things presidential candidacies have always had to do off their own dime. They covered him more extensively than even Obama, who is President. All the while sniping at Hillary and ignoring Bernie. It was shameful and Obama and Larry called them out on it tonight big-time.

    But moving the Overton window? I doubt it. The Trump over-coverage is how they make money and get ratings. It’ll continue and get even bigger as he gets a major party nomination; thus legitimizing their coverage choices. This is how Goebbles did it. And it’s happening here.

    I’m ridiculously late to this thread, but every word of this is precisely on target and bears repeating.

  73. 73.

    RedDirtGirl

    May 1, 2016 at 10:52 am

    I’m known as an instigator, and have decided to put that talent to use here. Long-time lurker, (post-JC’s conversion), and I live in the NYmetro area. Let’s have a meet-up. If no FPers or top commenters are coming through town, let’s do one anyway.

  74. 74.

    Miss Bianca

    May 1, 2016 at 10:54 am

    @Adam L Silverman: Not at all. That was an amazing post/thread. Sorry I retired early last night, would have been great to follow in real time.

  75. 75.

    Shell

    May 1, 2016 at 10:59 am

    Thanks for posting this,,but I also found it on CSpan.
    Damn, I forgot all about it. The phrase ‘Nerd Prom’ went right over my head.

  76. 76.

    Adam L Silverman

    May 1, 2016 at 11:02 am

    @RedDirtGirl: Email Anne Laurie, her contact stuff is on the top right side, and she’ll get the ball rolling for you.

  77. 77.

    opiejeanne

    May 1, 2016 at 11:02 am

    @I’mNotSureWhoIWantToBeYet: It took me a while to remember that it was debated whether he was black enough starting in 2007, and he was asked that IIRC in an interview.

  78. 78.

    Villago Delenda Est

    May 1, 2016 at 11:03 am

    @patroclus: With our utterly worthless media, it’s strictly about the benjamins. All the time.

    This species is doomed due to unchecked, rampant greed. No where is this more obvious than in our media, particularly the “news” side of things.

  79. 79.

    Villago Delenda Est

    May 1, 2016 at 11:07 am

    @bystander: Mike needs a fuckin’ tumbrel ride.

  80. 80.

    gwangung

    May 1, 2016 at 11:14 am

    @opiejeanne: It’s such an insulting question, particularly when asked by mainstream (ie. white) interviewers and politicians. (Racist, actually).

  81. 81.

    Amir Khalid

    May 1, 2016 at 11:24 am

    The CNN video’s not showing up for me. The White House video showed up just fine.

  82. 82.

    Miss Bianca

    May 1, 2016 at 11:29 am

    @amk: Aww, *sweet*. I am gonna have to watch this, if I can get the feed to work.

  83. 83.

    Technocrat

    May 1, 2016 at 11:29 am

    @I’mNotSureWhoIWantToBeYet:

    Too many of them are over-paid hacks. If their precious fee-fees are so delicate that they can’t be reminded of that one night a year, then they shouldn’t attend.

    Let’s not pretend that message struck home to any who needed to hear it. They weren’t reminded of anything, except possibly how tired they are of this sort of blunt-force racial comedy. Couple this with the trainwreck that was Chris Rock’s Oscars and I’m tired of it. I guarantee you any black person in that audience was at least as uncomfortable as the purported targets of the burn.

  84. 84.

    Villago Delenda Est

    May 1, 2016 at 11:44 am

    @Technocrat: As we learned in 2006, when Richard Cohen went public with his butthurt.

  85. 85.

    Technocrat

    May 1, 2016 at 11:52 am

    @Villago Delenda Est:

    Basically. The ones who laughed at it, really didn’t need to hear it. And that sort of thing may actually move the needle for some who are introspective enough to think about the trhust of the message. It’s the ones who are all quietly pissed and confused that worry me. I have to work with those fuckers.

    Anyway, my pearls are well-clutched. I was just surprised and irked. I’ll get over it.

    ETA: Maybe I’ll get #BlackDiscomfortMatters trending on Twitter.

  86. 86.

    Shell

    May 1, 2016 at 11:56 am

    At the end of the ‘Couch Commander’ video, who was that woman walking down the hallway with Obama and Boehner?

  87. 87.

    WaterGirl

    May 1, 2016 at 11:59 am

    @Technocrat: I though Chris Rock did a great job of being in your face (in a good way) at the Oscars, but still making them fun, says this middle-aged white woman.

    Full disclosure: I fast forwarded through everything except Chris Rock and the In Memoriam part.

  88. 88.

    WaterGirl

    May 1, 2016 at 12:00 pm

    @Shell: I wondered that, too!

  89. 89.

    I'mNotSureWhoIWantToBeYet

    May 1, 2016 at 12:00 pm

    @Shell: Wasn’t she the lady at the DC DMV? Dunno. I’d have to watch it again.

    Cheers,
    Scott.

  90. 90.

    gwangung

    May 1, 2016 at 12:02 pm

    @WaterGirl:

    I though Chris Rock did a great job of being in your face (in a good way) at the Oscars, but still making them fun, says this middle-aged white woman.

    He’d sorta undercut the message with the lame Asian jokes.

    (And frankly, I’m tired of white people tired of these jokes. Try living on the other end of this crap).

  91. 91.

    Technocrat

    May 1, 2016 at 12:08 pm

    @WaterGirl:

    Re Chris: I didn’t think it was poorly done, just overdone. Not his bit, as much as the way the show revolved around it. But that’s more personal taste than anything.

    Do you have it recorded? I’d be curious about your opinion if you watched the entire thing.

  92. 92.

    Hal

    May 1, 2016 at 12:15 pm

    @Technocrat:

    I guarantee you any black person in that audience was at least as uncomfortable as the purported targets of the burn.

    Well thanks for speaking for all the black folks in the audience. The butt hurt feelings of white people should always come first, after all.

  93. 93.

    Technocrat

    May 1, 2016 at 12:17 pm

    @Hal:

    Well thanks for speaking for all the black folks in the audience

    It’s my turn this week. Check the schedule.

  94. 94.

    Applejinx

    May 1, 2016 at 12:26 pm

    @seaboogie: Hillary was in a concrete bunker ten miles away, watching a bank of closed-circuit television cameras.

    And making notes of every bastard that dared laugh at her.

    :D

    (in all seriousness, DAMN was that crowd afraid. Afraid of laughing at Hillary, afraid of laughing at Trump. I don’t know what they’re going to do for the general election. Is it really going to come down to who frightens the courtiers into bootlicking best? Gad.)

  95. 95.

    Anya

    May 1, 2016 at 12:33 pm

    I think this was the most spot on joke of the night: “I also would like to acknowledge some of the award-winning reporters that we have with us here tonight: Rachel McAdams, Mark Ruffalo, Liev Schrieber. Thank you all for everything that you’ve done. I’m just joking, as you know Spotlight is a film, a movie about investigative journalist with the resources and the autonomy to chase down the truth and hold the powerful accountable. Best fantasy film since Star Wars.”

  96. 96.

    Applejinx

    May 1, 2016 at 12:36 pm

    @Shell: I loved that part, though it was also a little disconcerting. Imagine if Obama and Boehner represent the departing faces of what we’ll know as the last WORKING government, walking off into the sunset with a collective ‘fuck it’ D:

  97. 97.

    opiejeanne

    May 1, 2016 at 12:43 pm

    @gwangung: Tremendously insulting.

  98. 98.

    elftx

    May 1, 2016 at 12:49 pm

    Anyone else think POTUS gave Bernie “The Look” after his comrade remark?

  99. 99.

    Miss Bianca

    May 1, 2016 at 12:51 pm

    Wow. Holy crap. Just finished it. I am going to miss this President.

    ETA: Did he really get Boehner to come back and dish dirt?

  100. 100.

    opiejeanne

    May 1, 2016 at 12:53 pm

    @elftx: I saw that. We backed up the recording to have another look.

  101. 101.

    WaterGirl

    May 1, 2016 at 12:56 pm

    @Technocrat: It was recorded, but I deleted it as soon as I had fast-forward watched it. Pretty sure I also deleted it out of the “deleted shows” folder, too, so there’s no going back.

  102. 102.

    Miss Bianca

    May 1, 2016 at 1:07 pm

    @elftx: Yeah, I think so. And I hope so. Hope that “hoping” didn’t make me think so. (huh?)

  103. 103.

    Just Some Fuckhead

    May 1, 2016 at 1:18 pm

    @Technocrat: I watched Wilmore’s bit. It was pretty brutal watching joke after joke crash but people of color were laughing as the cameras panned over the audience and there was one or two people in the back (wait staff?) howling.

    I thought Wilmore did as well as possible with the roast format and cold reception.

  104. 104.

    satby

    May 1, 2016 at 1:20 pm

    @Applejinx: They weren’t afraid. They were offended.

  105. 105.

    WaterGirl

    May 1, 2016 at 1:39 pm

    @Applejinx: @satby: The white house correspondents have no idea what their role is supposed to be. They have lost the plot.

  106. 106.

    Technocrat

    May 1, 2016 at 1:44 pm

    @Just Some Fuckhead:

    Yeah, well, I may be projecting. And Obama would have been a tough act for any comedian to follow. His timing and delivery are amazing.

  107. 107.

    Applejinx

    May 1, 2016 at 1:47 pm

    @satby: Seemed afraid to me. For them to be offended, the jokes would have to be calling them out on a righteousness they’ve specifically chosen to abandon, and I think that’s a naive view. An entire room full of journalists conspired to suck and betray all their supposed principles, and are butthurt at being called on it?

    I don’t think so. Hurt, yes, but I think they were afraid. There isn’t a politican left in the race that they dare laugh at. BOTH Trump and Hillary frighten them. They’re happy to laugh at Cruz but Cruz makes them feel everything is spinning out of control that this guy should be a finalist in President Idol. Both Trump and Clinton have their sides totally under control and the courtiers are afraid of both of them. Should Trump lose, their vengeance on him will be pretty brutal. He’ll be a living joke for the rest of his days, because it’ll be safe to do that. Until he loses, it’s very dangerous to cross him.

  108. 108.

    Technocrat

    May 1, 2016 at 1:51 pm

    @Applejinx:

    An entire room full of journalists conspired to suck and betray all their supposed principles

    I’m sure a lot of them would disagree that’s what they did. Which would be why they were offended, even The UnRighteous have feelings.

  109. 109.

    Amaranthine RBG

    May 1, 2016 at 2:05 pm

    He chose not to wear a tux, because Bernie is a man of the people, as he performs demonstrates at every opportunity.

    $2500 haircuts tell you nothing useful about a candidate, but not wearing a tux, gosh what an asshole.

  110. 110.

    I'mNotSureWhoIWantToBeYet

    May 1, 2016 at 2:10 pm

    @Shell: Yeah, it’s “Kat” the DC DMV character, wearing a pair of Biden’s sunglasses.

    YouTube (4:45).

    Well done.

    Cheers,
    Scott.

  111. 111.

    Mnemosyne

    May 1, 2016 at 2:19 pm

    @Applejinx:

    An entire room full of journalists conspired to suck and betray all their supposed principles, and are butthurt at being called on it?

    I think the journalists in that room have a very different view than you or I do of what their principles should be, and I think they were offended that a mere politician or comedian would dare to lecture them about what their job is and how they should do it.

    Remember, they had pretty much the same reaction to Colbert, and for the same reason — and that reason wasn’t that they were afraid of W.

  112. 112.

    JosieJ (not Josie)

    May 1, 2016 at 2:30 pm

    They’re not afraid of Trump, they’re afraid of losing access to him. How else are they going to keep their ratings up so they can continue to go to all the best parties and rub elbows with those people they ought to be covering impartially?

  113. 113.

    johnnybuck

    May 1, 2016 at 3:29 pm

    I thought Wilmore was awesome, but the lady Buck thought the obvious butthurt of the crowd to be the most satisfying part. If anything he went light on them.

  114. 114.

    Mnemosyne

    May 1, 2016 at 4:31 pm

    @Amaranthine RBG:

    $2500 haircuts tell you nothing useful about a candidate, but not wearing a tux, gosh what an asshole.

    People who think appearance is important in a candidate think Bernie was a jerk for wearing a mismatched suit to an event? Gawd, why can’t those people be consistent and think appearance is important for everyone?

  115. 115.

    Miss Bianca

    May 1, 2016 at 4:48 pm

    @Mnemosyne: this lookin’ presidential thing, how does it work?

  116. 116.

    Ruckus

    May 1, 2016 at 5:25 pm

    @Mnemosyne:
    What I like is that what started out as a $600 hair appointment has quadrupled to $2400 and a $100 tux rental is compared to it.
    Hell I have owned 2 suits in my life. Have worn the last one I bought about 16 yrs ago about 3 times. And as stated here the other day bought my own tux for work. Not a suit/tie sort of person but do know that there is a time and place for it. This is one of those times.

  117. 117.

    opiejeanne

    May 1, 2016 at 6:17 pm

    @Ruckus:

    What I like is that what started out as a $600 hair appointment has quadrupled to $2400

    Lots of inflation the last two months.

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