Come for the politics, stay for the snark.

Republicans are radicals, not conservatives.

White supremacy is terrorism.

Our messy unity will be our strength.

Boeing: repeatedly making the case for high speed rail.

“Perhaps I should have considered other options.” (head-desk)

When someone says they “love freedom”, rest assured they don’t mean yours.

Humiliatingly small and eclipsed by the derision of millions.

Stamping your little feets and demanding that they see how important you are? Not working anymore.

Let me file that under fuck it.

The Supreme Court cannot be allowed to become the ultimate, unaccountable arbiter of everything.

She burned that motherfucker down, and I am so here for it. Thank you, Caroline Kennedy.

No one could have predicted…

With all due respect and assumptions of good faith, please fuck off into the sun.

If you tweet it in all caps, that makes it true!

Lick the third rail, it tastes like chocolate!

The gop is a fucking disgrace.

Reality always gets a vote in the end.

Republicans don’t want a speaker to lead them; they want a hostage.

Proof that we need a blogger ethics panel.

You know it’s bad when the Project 2025 people have to create training videos on “How To Be Normal”.

People are complicated. Love is not.

To the privileged, equality seems like oppression.

So it was an October Surprise A Day, like an Advent calendar but for crime.

Relentless negativity is not a sign that you are more realistic.

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Best comment of the evening, from our own dmsilev:

Soon, the purges will begin. History will remember it as the Night of the Long Sporks.

Tomorrow, we buckle down to the vital task of keeping the White House in sane hands. But tonight…

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  2. 2.

    Marcion

    So, who wants to bet on Trump’s running mate? Pure crony, humiliated Establishment token, or ambitious but controllable backbencher?

  4. 4.

    Soylent Green

    My pick for Trump’s running mate is 2007’s Miss Teen USA contestant from South Carolina.

  5. 5.

    akryan

    @Marcion: It’ll be a tea party back bencher. I wouldn’t take Trump lightly. He’s going to make this the ugliest campaign we’ve seen since the 1800’s. He doesn’t have to stay consistent or even rational on any issue. All he has to do is attack.

  7. 7.

    JordanRules

    We live in interesting times.
    Good round up. Totally agree with what Benjy Sarlin said.

    My one observation about Drumpf is that instead of being some handsome interpretation of this nutter fantasy come to life, we have this screw-faced, snarling fucker. It’s all even more odd than I would have imagined the last gasps would be.

  8. 8.

    xyzxyzxyz

    Was watching MSNBC, and was taken by the diatribe of Chuck Todd on how we were in “uncharted waters” with two candidates of unprecedented unfavorables. Unpack that for a moment. Trump is a recent train wreck. Hillary had been under various investigations for 20+ years, with every spurious detail reported as fact by folks like….Chuck Todd. Yet, both sides suffer from the same affliction. Some fucking self awareness on the part the press would be really useful about now. I know….silly rabbit. They have a horse race to cover. Can we have a post category entitled “Chuck Todd sucks”? Could come in useful over the next six months.

  10. 10.

    aarrgghh

    “Tomorrow, Obama national security team will begin debating plan to arm moderate Republican rebels.”

    the next six months will be decisive.

  11. 11.

    starscream

    @Soylent Green: this is correct. If these monsters had any decency they would have left the party long ago. The temptation of undoing Obama’s legacy will be too great.

  14. 14.

    starscream

    @Marcion: I bet on Ben Carson. Also an outsider nutjob who endorsed early. Lets him say “Look how much I love the blacks!”

  18. 18.

    Radio One

    if there is human being that is a direct antithesis to my own personality, I’m pretty sure it’s Ari Fleischer.

  20. 20.

    Brachiator

    Right now, it would not surprise me if the next three Democratic primaries go for Sanders. Kentucky, West Virginia, Kentucky. Not only do I expect the GOP to fall in behind Trump, I expect to see a lot of hatred towards Clinton unleashed.

    I didn’t realize that the Cruz meltdown over attacks on his father came from old National Inquirer stories. And apparently Trump is good friends with the owner of the paper. I expect more garbage to be aimed at the Democrats and Trump will not care that it will be nonsense as long as it will furnish him with juicy one liners.

    Meanwhile in an interview with the UK Daily Mail Trump spoke in favor of Israel expanding settlements. This contradicts past US policy. But Trump is now free to expand his general election focus. And he clearly will be going after both Obama and Hillary as being weak and feckless.

    Funny thing about that newspaper front page. Trump’s supporters are happy to see the old GOP burnt to the ground. Everything that any pundit wrote about the possibility of a contested GOP convention is effectively irrelevant. And the GOP Establishment has no choice but to court Trump and seek his favor.

    What an amazing turn of events. Trump did not melt down. Instead he methodically broke all those who opposed him, and made Christie his jester, and possibly VP pick.

    Damn.

  21. 21.

    Betty Cracker

    Random rhetorical question: How does Michelle Barnard keep landing TV panel gigs? She’s as dumb as a bag of toenail clippings.

  22. 22.

    ? Martin

    @trollhattan: Well, seems a bit one-sided:

    “I’m writing to welcome you back to California – a state that in the last year has added more jobs than Florida and Texas combined,” Brown said in a letter. “Rick, a fact you’d like to ignore: California is the 7th largest economic power in the world. We’re competing with nations like Brazil and France, not states like Florida.”

    and

    An audience member at the Milken conference, noting that Scott’s Florida pitch had been included in fliers handed out at the conference, asked why workers should consider moving to Florida.

    “If I’m a public servant, let’s say a teacher, a firefighter or even a cop, why would I put my life on the line in Florida while getting less money, lower pension benefits and less labor protection?” the unidentified audience member asked during the panel discussion.

    Appealing to workers by promoting your $8.05 minimum wage over CAs proposed $15 doesn’t seem like a very good approach.

  23. 23.

    Soylent Green

    This recent comment left by “zzbroncos” on Redstate: wingnuttiest wingnut, or brilliant ratfucker?

    The Samson Contingency now has to be activated. One of the greatest, godliest worldly institutions has now been captured by the disciples of Mammon. The institution that ended slavery by being born into being through the Samson Contingency of the 19th century now has to die as it was born. #NeverTrump is for yesterday, today, tomorrow, and ever more. #NeverTrump also is #NeverAnyTrumpEnablers. This means an active fight to attack the lines of communication of our occupiers and their collaborators. The center of gravity must be besieged.

    While it is tempting to say, we must vote for X, we must protect the majority in the House of Representatives, the Supreme Court is at stake, ect, it is all for naught. The Republican party has finally verbalized the wishes of our leadership. Pro-life, Pro-God, Pro-Individual Rights, Pro-Liberty have been vanquished by the forces of Mammon. Trump represents the manifestation of the movement to destroy the family, the values and civic ties of America that have been at work for a century from Communist spies, traitors, collaborators, useful idiots and propagandists in the 1920s, 1930s, 1940s and 1950s to the Cultural Revolution in the 1960s to the destruction of public morals in the 1990s and the repudiation of Godliness in our current times. Our house has been captured, and now it must be purified through a fire which has only once before has been witnessed in our union’s history. Mitch McConnell, John Cornyn, John Ellis Bush, John Boehner, George H.W. Bush, Bob Dole, Nelson Rockefeller, John McCain, Richard M. Nixon, Steve King (Terrorist supporter, R-NY 2) and more have public chastised, attacked, undermined and betrayed our movement, and our Creator. They have aided and abetted those that seek to destroy that which we fight to preserve and restore. They have collaborated with Trump and the forces of Mammon that now has occupied the temple of one of the godliest worldly institutions in history. “It’s a call to actively destroy the pillars and collapse the temple on top of us, while trying to preserve what remains.” Regardless of the outcome in November 8th, 2016, we have lost that which we sought to protect.

    This must be an active, merciless fight; not merely a passive resistance. This is not our end, nor our banishment, but the opportunity of for our redemption. The United States Senate is lost, as is then the Supreme Court of the United States. The United States House of Representatives is spineless, gutless and sickened. Paul Ryan’s capitulation is only a matter of time now. We have lost everything that we have fought for generations. It is time destroy the temple, and those that have desecrated it for decades. Our captivity to this worldly host is self-evident.

    The Samson Contingency is the only way forward to cleanse the wreckage for posterity. The gilded-toad, liberal Republicans, the consultant class, the Washington Cartel, must be smashed. This will be bloody, and it will be painful. Tyranny is coming, the question is in only the variety we will suffer. We can let our Philippe Pétains stay in power, and lay their plans to collaborate with our enemies or we can destroy them before they can mass. We can re-elect them so that they are allowed to mass, establish lines of communication, centers of gravity and information operations, or we can do the unexpected. Actively defeat them, knowing what lies in our future. This is routinely threatened, but never carried out.

    Therefore, the time for summer warriors and sunshine patriots is at an end. Our stand is now; our fight is evermore. I will never surrender. Ted Cruz was the man for our time, but the Rohirrim never arrived to save his Helm’s Deep as we imagined. He was overrun by the combined forces of his enemies.

    The fight must be to now ensure a fifty state landslide, and a targeted repudiation of every single enabler who has participated in this usurpation. Those that have a platform to disseminate our message must make clear, we are not just simple #NeverDonaldTrump, but also #NeverAnyTrumpEnablers. This means an active fight to attack the lines of communication of our occupiers, centers of gravity and information operations and their collaborators.

    Lines of Communication: The routes that connect the operational unit with its supply base. Simply put, refuse to participate in any GOTV effort, phone banking, door knocking or campaign events. Actively recruit local reliable volunteers to withhold their support. The Republican Party is entirely dependent on the grass roots volunteers for its boots on the ground. Withholding this support, our organization knowledge and the continuity from previous campaigns is critical. Many who are active locally understand the terrain, the key figures in the community and have the credibility to persuade local influential figures to assist the campaigns. The most effect means of persuading someone to vote is repeated contacts, phone and then door knocking.

    Centers of Gravity: The source of power that provides moral or physical strength, freedom of action, or will to act. What allows the Republican collaborators the ability to accomplish their mission? What is the characteristic, capability or locality, that enables them to accomplish their objective? What is preventing us from accomplishing our objectives? The collaborators are protected by the likes of Fox News, Breitbart, Rush Limbaugh, and the various organizations like the Chamber of Commerce. We must remove our patronage from Fox News, Breitbart and Rush Limbaugh (as well as others) and refuse to support those that work with the Chamber of Commerce. Locally, if you are able to, infiltrate the Chamber of Commerce organization and refuse to support the locals. Inform business that are members that you will go elsewhere as long as they are associated with it and other organizations. Pastors and ministers that support Trump and any known collaborators too will need to be decimated. Robert Jefferies and Jerry Falwell Jr (Lawyer, but President of Liberty University and bearer of his father’s good name) need to be exposed for the frauds.

    Information Operations: integrated employment of electronic warfare… psychological operations…, in concert with specified supporting and related capabilities, to influence, disrupt, corrupt or usurp adversarial human and automated decision making while protecting our own. Information Operations are actions taken to affect adversary information and information systems while defending one’s own information and information systems or rumors deliberately spread widely to influence opinions. This is where our battle will be actively fought between now and November 8th, 2016. We must actively educate those locally that we are in contact with about why we have chosen this path, the philosophical case for Reagan Conservatism, Free Trade, International Engagement, Liberty and Life. We must also push every single credible, and at times any, rumor that destroys the occupiers of the Republican Party. Trump’s predilection for home wrecking, rape, and pedophilia must be disseminated. U.S. Congressman that enjoy their interns while preaching family values and their own families (and yes, I am personally aware of one in my state), U.S. Senators that have net worth in excess of any reasonable legitimate accumulation from their salary need to be investigated or at least have it questioned via innuendo. If they collaborate, they must be destroyed. Local officials that have committed felonies such as insurance fraud need to be exposed. In order to destroy many of the collaborators, we will have to engage in tactics that in normal times would be anathema to our values and principles. Many activist are familiar with Congressional Staff members. Many are also familiar with local politicians such as state representatives and senators assemblymen and their staff. Those that support Trump must have their dirty laundry aired. This is the only way to take down collaborators on a large enough scale to affect their local general election voters.

    Cowards sat on the sideline (Marco Rubio, Rand Paul, Paul Ryan), gave tepid endorsements (Mike Pence, Rush Limbaugh, Mitt Romney) or sharpened their knives to flay the remnants of Cruz (Bobby Jindal, Marco Rubio, Newt Gingrich, Sean Hannity). Aid was withheld as he endured the focused, sustained and saturated attack by the forces of Mammon. We need to have a long memory.

    There were too few conservative warriors with access to media who recognized that this was total war, not a campaign. Codes of civility, of gentleman’s conduct and friendships stood in the way of de-legitimizing the propagandists and enablers, the covert actors who had decades prior established their trustworthiness with the self-identified members of the Republican Party.

  24. 24.

    ? Martin

    @Brachiator:

    Right now, it would not surprise me if the next three Democratic primaries go for Sanders. Kentucky, West Virginia, Kentucky. Not only do I expect the GOP to fall in behind Trump, I expect to see a lot of hatred towards Clinton unleashed.

    Kentucky twice. Lucky state.

    Clinton has effectively stopped the primary campaign and is focusing on the general. I don’t mind Sanders staying in until the convention, but it’s time for Clinton to get on with this and she can’t really do that while Sanders keeps suggesting to his supporters that there is still a path to victory because it will make it even harder for those supporters to go over to Clinton. Sanders needs to get on board now, tell his supporters that Clinton will be the nominee and that they need to back her, but he can keep pushing for his agenda. It’s probably already too late for this, but a graceful pivot might get him something at the convention. If he continues, he’ll get nothing – the party will completely shut him out for screwing over Dems chances in the fall.

  25. 25.

    Betty Cracker

    @Brachiator: I’m bitterly disappointed about the prospect of a peaceful Republican convention. Now all the drama will be on the Dem side, which will consist of the Sanders campaign death watch, even as he wracks up additional victories (I agree that he will — he might go out on a winning streak).

    IIRC, HRC had a bit of a winning streak at the end of her 2008 campaign, but everyone knew it was all over but the shouting. The dragged-out primary didn’t end up hurting the Democrats; on the contrary, it kept the focus on them.

    Let’s hope we get lucky again. The alternative is unthinkable.

  26. 26.

    ? Martin

    @Soylent Green: Based on his history, wingnut. Seems right in the Ayn Rand orc age range as well – maybe 25.

    We didn’t get a ‘Wolverines!’ tossed in that one because the movie was made before he was born.

  27. 27.

    Mike J

    Jon Lovett ‏@jonlovett 5h5 hours ago
    Good news: You get to vote for our first woman president and save the country all at once.

  28. 28.

    I'mNotSureWhoIWantToBeYet

    @Soylent Green: Whew. That’s some true-believer Kool-aid induced ranting there, that is. Just short of advocating violence. It will help get too many unbalanced people even more upset. It’s not a good sign to see stuff like that, but fortunately, it’s only a tiny subset of the population who takes things like that seriously…

    Cheers,
    Scott.

  30. 30.

    I'mNotSureWhoIWantToBeYet

    @? Martin: So you don’t think much of the argument that Bernie needs to keep fighting to keep up interest in the down-ballot races in California’s primary?

    I didn’t see more than a minute or so of Bernie’s pre-victory speech tonight. I noticed he said something about the Republicans being wrong, then started up about where he and Hillary disagree. It seemed to be mostly the same-old same-old. He seems to be doing very little pivoting yet, but I’m not sure that it matters. The convention is a long way off and I don’t think his rhetoric against her is doing much additional damage now.

    Is there going to be another debate/town hall before CA votes? That might be interesting…

    Cheers,
    Scott.

  31. 31.

    ? Martin

    @I’mNotSureWhoIWantToBeYet:

    @? Martin: So you don’t think much of the argument that Bernie needs to keep fighting to keep up interest in the down-ballot races in California’s primary?

    No, I’m fine with that, and I’m fine with him staying in. But he needs to set the stage for his supporters to not be offended when Clinton ignores the primary race and starts going after Trump. She doesn’t need to be in California, she needs to be in Colorado and Ohio, and Sanders can free her to do that while focusing on his policies and helping down-ballot races.

    I don’t see why Clinton would agree to another debate. She doesn’t need it, and she doesn’t need to be seen getting beaten up by Sanders now. Trump in the nominee, time to move forward.

  32. 32.

    Brachiator

    @? Martin: West Virginia, Kentucky, Oregon.

    I think that Trump will step up attacks more directed at Clinton than at Sanders, and this may influence some of the remaining primaries. Meanwhile, the hostility directed at Clinton in West Virginia surprised me a bit. Maybe it should not have. It is extra stuff that Clinton must neutralize.

  33. 33.

    Brachiator

    @Betty Cracker: Good point about Clinton’s late primary wins. And Sanders seemed to be running out of gas, with reports of staff layoffs.

    But these final primary campaigns may be tougher. The West Virginia hostility is troubling. And I expect lots of nasty, childish and openly sexist attacks from Trump. His base loves that stuff. They eat it up.

  34. 34.

    Anne Laurie

    @Prescott Cactus: I’m sure Cruz wants it — because his God would absolutely take Trump down within 48 hours of his inauguration if not sooner, and then Ted could initiate his anointed God-King reign as is spoken of in the Good Book (Cruz’s autobiography).

    And that’s why I’m fairly sure The Donald will not offer Ted the job, because he’s semi-literate and not very bright, but he can sniff out a murderous competitor with the skill born of life-long experience.

  35. 35.

    Suzan

    I can’t help think Trump could win. People hate Hillary and Trump’s childish lies about her might bloody her. A big portion of the population think she is evil and corrupt. He’s too much of a wild card. We didn’t think he could get this far. Yes, in a vapid party, but still. Could he pull this off?

  37. 37.

    Soylent Green

    In Oregon we got our mail-in ballots a week ago. Bernie will win big here. Some Sanders fans are emboldened by his win in Indiana, but are forgetting the obvious: it’s over. Many Clinton voters would have reasoned, hey she has it in the bag, why take time from work to vote? Ergo, Bernie beats the pollsters’ expectations. I wish these meaningless victories weren’t still going to his head.

  38. 38.

    Soylent Green

    @Suzan: “People hate Hillary.” You say that so blithely. Sure, the wingnuts do, and the Berniebros. But to most Americans, Hillary is likable enough.

  39. 39.

    Anne Laurie

    @Suzan: If it helps, remember the old joke about two hikers being chased by a bear. Hillary doesn’t have to rebut every “some people say” perception — she just has to be less dangerously obnoxious / patently unfit for the Oval Office than the Yammering Yam. It’ll be a tiring job for her, but nothing she hasn’t faced every day during the last quarter-century or so.

  41. 41.

    Applejinx

    @? Martin:

    If he continues, he’ll get nothing – the party will completely shut him out for screwing over Dems chances in the fall.

    If Hillary wanted the party to do that, she could have spent even a tiny amount of money and attention on Indiana, won it, and denied Bernie the ‘come from behind victory’. Politically, the way to shut Bernie out and ignore his people is to stop him getting more wins in the primaries, and it wouldn’t have been hard to do. She could have started the ‘routed bernie continues decline as support flees’ YESTERDAY and she chose not to feed that narrative.

    I don’t buy it. Not with 30%-40% of the Dem electorate at stake. The party is not going to shut out Bernie and his voters, something else is going on.

  42. 42.

    burnspbesq

    This popped up in my FB feed overnight.

    Ted Cruz must not be allowed to abort his campaign without an ultrasound probe, a 72-hr waiting period, and a walk through a gantlet of shame.

  45. 45.

    PaulWartenberg2016

    While the likelihood of the Republican faithful to fall in line is there, this time – with such an obvious mistake like Trump – there may be enough of them refusing to support him that may give Democrats a bigger lead.

    Mitt Romney garnered 93 percent Republican support in 2012… and he still lost. Trump is currently looking at a 10 percent dropoff around 83 percent, meaning he’s going to need a ton of Non-Party voters to buy in. But Romney got 50 percent (to Obama’s 45 percent) of the Non-Party voters, and Trump’s current numbers with “Independents” is between 33 to 40 percent support, which isn’t going to cut it.

    It all comes down to Hillary (or Bernie’s) polling: can they pull enough support to them to make Trump incapable of wrangling any of it to himself?

  46. 46.

    Chris

    @Suzan:

    Of course he could win. Any Republican nominated starts with an absolute FLOOR of 45% of the vote. It doesn’t take much to turn that into a win.

    But that would be true no matter who the Democratic nominee was, and no matter who the Republican nominee was, and any other Republican nominee would’ve been as disastrous as Trump or close to it.

  47. 47.

    Robert Sneddon

    @Applejinx: You don’t really get it, do you? The nomination battle is over. It was over after the first Super Tuesday.

    SoS Clinton spent valuable time in Ohio shoring up the Democratic machine there in preparation for the general election rather than spend that time in Indiana gaining a couple more delegates or even a pointless percentage “win”. She’s working on winning the election in November while Senator Sanders and his supporters (and yourself) are focussed laser-like on the nomination battle which is already lost. Your financial contributions will be welcome though as the Sanders campaign charges towards the convention and glorious inevitable defeat.

  48. 48.

    Shantanu Saha

    @Marcion:
    “Let me have men about me that are fat, sleek-headed men and, such as sleep o’nights. Yond Christie has a fat and hungry look. He shouts too much, such men are ridiculous.”
    –CaesarTrump

  49. 49.

    sherparick

    @xyzxyzxyz: I vote for that. I can’t give you the full Driftglass, but no one does it better about our “failed media experiment.” driftglass.blogspot.com/2016/05/sunday-morning-comin-down.html

    “….See? It’s really not that fucking hard to remember how we got to where we are, unless, of course, you are being paid not to remember. Like you are, Chuck. Like Ron Fournier is. Which is [why] approved and obedient go-along-to-get-along members of the Beltway are ever within shouting distance of circle jerks like this:

    …
    CHUCK TODD: We all wondered, what if they [Obama and Boehner] golfed together all the time?

    KRISTEN WELKER: Right.

    CHUCK TODD: What if they did share a smoke, when the president was smoking? What would their relationship be?

    DORIS KEARNS GOODWIN: They started drinking at 10:00 in the morning.

    THOMAS FRIEDMAN: To be a fly on the wall for that video I would have–

    CHUCK TODD: Just the taping.

    THOMAS FRIEDMAN: Exactly.

    But here’s the funny part. We out here in flyover country who watch in bemused horror as these professional hustlers, hoaxers and humbuggers make a mockery of honest journalism often play a little game of “Stupid or Liar” without ourselves to try suss out the reason why they just keep telling the same transparently ridiculous lies over and over again. Are clowns like Todd and Fournier so fucking obtuse and cut off from the rest of the world that they’re actually unaware of how ludicrous they sound to the average thinking man or woman outside of their cloistered little pocket Universe?

    Nope.

    It turns out that they are quite aware of what we think of them. But, as should come as absolutely no surprise to anyone, all incoming criticism of the shitty job they do as “journalists” is simply pulverized in the same Both Siderist wood-chipper into which every other fact which inconveniently contradicts their bullshit Beltway narrative is fed:

    RON FOURNIER: But that kind of comment gets mocked on the partisans on both sides.

    THOMAS FRIEDMAN: I know it does.

    CHUCK TODD: Oh, we’re going to get mocked right now. “Oh, there you go. Fournier, Todd, Friedman, all you guys.”

    RON FOURNIER: But the fact of the matter, that’s what leaders do is you set an example and you set a tone. The idea of two leaders showing that you can be friendly rivals, that’s a good model for the rest of the country. (blah, blah, blah, de blah…..)”

    I watched a little bit of Todd and he seemed peeved that the whole narrative he had in his mind a year ago about young, fresh Marco Rubio beating the old hag Hillary as the perfect 2016 campaign had been blown-up and it was of course, ‘both sides” fault.

    When Jane Saunders and the Sanders campaign say stuff like this, they forget Hispanics, Asian, single women, and Blacks are listening. When they say stuff that Trump is better on Hillary then trade, they hear that Sanders and his folks don’t care that Trump is running a campaign on promises to crush them like bugs to restore White Male Supremacy. I expect Sanders to win West Virginia and Kentucky, but it will be really interesting when he gets asked questions about coal and global warming and how he will try to be pro-coal and anti-warming at the same time.

  51. 51.

    Shantanu Saha

    @Applejinx:

    I don’t buy it. Not with 30%-40% of the Dem electorate at stake. The party is not going to shut out Bernie and his voters, something else is going on.

    Your estimate of the number of Democrats willing to walk out with Bernie if he doesn’t get to win for losing is a bit…generous.

  52. 52.

    Jinchi

    @Soylent Green:

    Some Sanders fans are emboldened by his win in Indiana, but are forgetting the obvious: it’s over.

    I don’t know that it’s forgetting the obvious. If she has already won it, her base doesn’t need to come out. There is no urgency to vote for her. Sanders fans are emboldened because they continue to have a voice as long as he is in it.

  53. 53.

    Robert Paehlke

    Trump’s running mate will be someone from a swing state like Mississippi.

  55. 55.

    Paul in KY

    @starscream: Ben Carson would be a sorta nutty pick. Could see it, though. Donald will do his own attacking. Ben would just have to stay awake & praise The Donald & talk about jeebus.

  56. 56.

    David Fud

    @Soylent Green: Way too articulate for a end-of-times sort of screed. This is brilliant rat-f-ing. But they should consider toning down the educational level a few notches as well as throwing in several grammar, spelling, and punctuation mistakes to make it more realistic.

    If you happen to know them. (or is it DougJ!?) I thought DougJ! focused on the moderates as the true enemies, so this doesn’t have his typical M.O. obviously written on it.

  57. 57.

    Grumpy Code Monkey

    @Mike J:

    Here’s the thing: back in September, how many of us sincerely believed Trump would wind up with the nomination? Be honest, now. I said, more than once, that Trump wouldn’t last to Super Tuesday, and that the Republican nominee would be one of Bush, Cruz, or Rubio.

    And yet, here we are.

    This is a weird enough year that I am not at all confident that Hillary will win the general.

  58. 58.

    Brachiator

    @Grumpy Code Monkey:

    Here’s the thing: back in September, how many of us sincerely believed Trump would wind up with the nomination?

    I am definitely on record as predicting that Trump would flame out, that he would do something to disqualify himself.

    But I also noted that Trump was benefiting from the same politico-celebrity aura that helped Governor Arnold, and that Trump should not be seen as an easy mark, that he would not be easily taken down by the same tactics that work against establishment politicians.

    But I never, never, ever would have predicted the ease by which he ultimately dominated the other GOP candidates.

    Never.

    And right now, I give him a fair chance against Clinton. We can see how his polling rises from now until the GOP convention.

  59. 59.

    Seanly

    @Soylent Green:

    I’m going to go with actual wingnut – too long to be a parody. Also, a parody would have to explain WTF the Samson Contingency is.

    Trump won’t name Carson or a woman as his running mate as he is a sexist, racist pig.

  60. 60.

    jonas

    @? Martin: Yup. This was the stupidest thing ever. Businesses that pay minimum wage are generally ones that have to be where they are — a restaurant, hair salon, farm, e.g. — and can’t just pull up stakes and move across the country like a Fortune 500 can.

  62. 62.

    J R in WV

    @Soylent Green:

    Can’t be – VP has to be 35 by inauguration day, you do the math on last time she was Miss Teen anything… about 16 years ago, right?

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