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Pareene is right of course, Democrats have a bad habit of attacking the other guy in strategically stupid ways. So do Republicans! Not many politicians have Obama’s knack for sparring. However, this election we have little Damien from the Omen all grown up and running for President so we probably should think things through even more than usual.

Go with Deadbeat Donald. It makes a pretty effective argument against electing the man. It also seems like an objectively accurate way to describe the guy’s business history. If you ever worked as a contractor for Donald Trump or invested in one of his mega-projects, odds are pretty good you have a funny story about getting shafted. And he just reinforces the criticism every time he brings up fiscal policy. He already telegraphed in debates that the line of argument makes him prickly and defensive.

What do you think? Chat about whatevs.

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  1. 1.

    the Conster, la Citoyenne

    It’s all about his tiny hands. Hillary’s surrogates – especially Liz Warren – should never stop mentioning that he has freakishly small hands and short fingers, and watch him stroke out.

  2. 2.

    Chris

    Apparently, there’s been a shooting at Montgomery Mall close to where I live. 2 dead, 2 injured. The tree of liberty got its daily refreshment from the blood of shoppers and part-time employees.

  4. 4.

    JMG

    For better and worse, Clinton is the staid candidate. Therefore, it behooves her to emphasis how Trump is an unacceptable risk. I doubt it’s the only line of attack she’ll use, but it will be an effective one when she points out how many nuclear weapons are still around. The whole default thing allows Donald to be described as both Dangerous and a Deadbeat.

  5. 5.

    Cacti

    @the Conster, la Citoyenne:

    From Graydon Carter, the man who gave Trump the label of “short-fingered vulgarian”:

    Like so many bullies, Trump has skin of gossamer. He thinks nothing of saying the most hurtful thing about someone else, but when he hears a whisper that runs counter to his own vainglorious self-image, he coils like a caged ferret. Just to drive him a little bit crazy, I took to referring to him as a “short-fingered vulgarian” in the pages of Spy magazine. That was more than a quarter of a century ago. To this day, I receive the occasional envelope from Trump. There is always a photo of him—generally a tear sheet from a magazine. On all of them he has circled his hand in gold Sharpie in a valiant effort to highlight the length of his fingers. I almost feel sorry for the poor fellow because, to me, the fingers still look abnormally stubby. The most recent offering arrived earlier this year, before his decision to go after the Republican presidential nomination. Like the other packages, this one included a circled hand and the words, also written in gold Sharpie: “See, not so short!” I sent the picture back by return mail with a note attached, saying, “Actually, quite short.” Which I can only assume gave him fits.

    Have surrogates insult his hand-size, intelligence, business acumen, and the alleged size of his fortune as often as possible.

    He’ll come unglued.

  6. 6.

    Mnemosyne

    Deadbeat Donald.
    Default Donald.
    Deficit Donald.

    Wait, let me find a thesaurus, I bet I can come up with more. Is there a synonym for “bankruptcy” that starts with a D?

  7. 7.

    Mike J

    Congrats to Sadiq Khan, the next mayor of London. The blowhard with the bad hair is on his way out, and he wasn’t replaced by the racist.

  8. 8.

    Chris

    @Iowa Old Lady:

    Oh, no doubt. And so, one assumes, would be the chiefs of state of Turkey, Saudi Arabia, Jordan, Kuwait, Oman, Morocco, Egypt, Pakistan, Afghanistan, Malaysia, Indonesia, Mali, Bangladesh, Mali, Algeria, Mauritania, Tunisia, Albania, Bosnia, Kosovo…

  9. 9.

    Enhanced Voting Techinques

    I have faith in Hilary to make The Donald look like an entitled brat in the debate, she is really good and that and it’s almost impossible for The Donald to avoid it and not turn off his fan base.

  10. 10.

    Chris

    @Mike J:

    Explosion of conservative memes that YOU SEE London totally IS a city under Sharia Law in 3… 2…

  12. 12.

    Iowa Old Lady

    Does it seem like the press is suddenly much less interested in reporting on Sanders? It’s like Trump focused their attention, like the threat of hanging is supposed to do. I suppose they’ll eventually go back to declaring the Ds to be in a close contest.

  15. 15.

    the Conster, la Citoyenne

    @Cacti:

    Trump would be Shakespearean, if he wasn’t such a petty combovered buffoon with such obvious flaws – maybe more Trollope than Shakespeare. Or Mad Magazine.

  16. 16.

    Mnemosyne

    Also, we didn’t buy season tickets for the Pantages just to have guaranteed “Hamilton” tickets, but it didn’t hurt. Knowing we also have guaranteed seats for the return engagement of “Book of Mormon” was probably the deciding factor, though.

  17. 17.

    Nemo_N

    Liberals think those kind of attacks are too “anti-intellectual” or something. They want the attack to be about how smart and caring they are, victory be damned. They very much deserve the wedgie.

    I hope I’m wrong, but I don’t see Team Hillary or liberals in general launching effective attacks.

  19. 19.

    jayackroyd

    @Enhanced Voting Techinques: How do think she’ll handle accusations of corruption, of rigging things for her elitist friends? Sanders couldn’t directly accuse her of being corrupt, but Crooked Hillary is gonna be his theme. (Dangerous Donald seems like a school yard taunt response to that moniker.)

  21. 21.

    Joel

    Something gives me the impression that “operatives” are 1) old 2) risk averse 3) giant dorks.

  22. 22.

    Mnemosyne

    @Nemo_N:

    Yeah, remember how ineffective Team Obama was against McCain and Romney?

    Given that Team Hillary is made up of many of the same people, I do not share your skepticism.

  23. 23.

    Cacti

    Easy attack on Trump that will set his teeth on edge:

    He bankrupted a casino and a professional football league. Are there two things Americans love more than gambling and football?

    How stupid do you have to be to lose money at them?

  24. 24.

    bupalos

    Criminy! I’m sorry but that campaign just really does have bad instincts. It seems like everything they do is the product of a bad staff meeting.

    So the 1st two moves we have so far are “But look everyone! Traditional Republicans don’t like Donald Trump!” and “Dangerous Donald.” It’s even worse that it’s just a ripoff of his dumb bully thing of doing a one-word put-down paired with a 1st name.

    It’s a good thing that this is literally un-losable at the POTUS level but if they were setting out to elect more R’s than you’d think this cycle could possibly support, I don’t think they could be off to a better start.

  27. 27.

    goblue72

    Just wait till Trump announces his reality mini-series to pick his VP running mate. 6 week mini-series, one candidate fired each week. Weekly competition Vice-President-ing “tasks” for competitors. Week 1 will be building a wall in downtown Manhattan and they have to go find some Mexicans to do it. (Bricks and trowels provided by a Trump, Inc. subsidiary, of course)

  28. 28.

    Cacti

    Help, stuck in moderation hell for using the common name for establishment where games of chance are played.

  29. 29.

    Mnemosyne

    @jayackroyd:

    I freely admit this is cynical of me, but if I were Team Hillary, I would run on knowing how things work and being realistic. Most people would rather have a little corruption in a working government than a total government collapse.

    And, let’s face it, “Corrupt Hillary” coming from Slave Labor Trump is straight from the Karl Rove playbook of attacking your opponent using YOUR OWN greatest weakness.

  30. 30.

    liberal

    The problem with trying to hand a catchy, derogatory nickname on Donald Trump is that he already has one: Donald Trump.

    [source]

  31. 31.

    ? Martin

    @Cacti:

    Have surrogates insult his hand-size, intelligence, business acumen, and the alleged size of his fortune as often as possible.

    I wouldn’t even bring it up. I’d just make every photo of Trump in attack ads have his hands reduced in size by 25% as a standard rule. Focus on photos where his hands are visible. Make it entirely subliminal. Make him bring it up so it doesn’t even look like an attack.

  32. 32.

    Schlemazel Khan

    HERE is a link to the video of Keith Ellison saying back in July that people should be ready for Trumps candidacy.
    George “Judas Iscariot” Stephenopolis laughs and laughs and says “I know you don’t believe that”. But I bet you a dime Heorge will treat Drumpf as if her should be respected as a candidate every Sunday from now through the election.

  33. 33.

    the Conster, la Citoyenne

    @Nemo_N:

    I don’t know – Liz Warren has been going at him pretty good on twitter. She’s got game, and just getting started.

  35. 35.

    FlipYrWhig

    @jayackroyd:

    Sanders couldn’t directly accuse her of being corrupt

    Apart from every public appearance and every ad for 2 months, you mean?

  36. 36.

    bupalos

    @JMG: Then if you just must name him, go with “Nuclear Trump” or “Toxic Trump” or “Unstable Trump.”

    F-

    Hillary might do well to just wait to start the general, in the last two days she’s given me the only inklings of actually considering Bernie that I’ve had.

  38. 38.

    Betty Cracker

    I don’t like the strategy of pointing out how much establishment Republicans dislike Trump. Establishment Republicans are douchebags, so being hated by them isn’t a deficit. More importantly, it lets the Republican Party off the hook for giving rise to Trump. Tie that motherfucker around their necks, I say!

  39. 39.

    liberal

    Hmm…well, there are a few Republican types that aren’t 1000% batshit crazy:

    “I have always voted for every Republican nominee for every office on every ballot that I have ever cast. Trump will be the first candidate to break my streak,” said a New Hampshire Republican. “While I cannot stand Hillary Clinton, I am confident that she wouldn’t start a nuclear war over a perceived slight from a foreign leader. I cannot say the same for President Trump.”

    and

    “First responsibility of the president: Control of nuclear launch codes,” added a Florida Republican. “Had Trump been in office in October 1962, we wouldn’t be here to have this survey.”

    [source]

  40. 40.

    Grumpy Code Monkey

    @the Conster, la Citoyenne: Once upon a time, asking about the New Jersey Generals was guaranteed to get Trump’s blood pressure up. While nobody else gives (gave) a shit about the USFL, I’m sure it would be a good warm-up question if you’re aiming for a meltdown.

  41. 41.

    Jeffro

    @schrodinger’s cat:

    Trump is like an uglier and stupider version of Sarah Palin.

    “Palin in a suit” – been sayin’ it for months.

    Can’t believe the rest of the “deep bench” couldn’t take a swipe at him with that…oh wait…I guess they really wanted those Palinista voters more than they wanted to have principles, any principles at all.

    I don’t like “Dangerous Donald” or “Deadbeat Donald”. Let’s not get hung up on alliteration here peeps. How about just “Donald the Moron”?

  43. 43.

    Cacti

    @Betty Cracker:

    I don’t like the strategy of pointing out how much establishment Republicans dislike Trump. Establishment Republicans are douchebags, so being hated by them isn’t a deficit. More importantly, it lets the Republican Party off the hook for giving rise to Trump. Tie that motherfucker around their necks, I say!

    Idk, as it stands, 15 million GOPers voted not Trump vs. about 10 million for Trump. The problem was too many not-Trumps diluting the vote early in the race.

    Any of them we could get to cross over, or at least not vote for The Donald is a gain.

  45. 45.

    Joel

    @bupalos: I actually think anti-unity ad makes sense before the Republicans convene. It’s designed to drive a wedge in presidential support. The Republicans are doing the same thing, albeit less effectively. And they definitely pushed that in 2008. Parties do this because it’s (marginally) effective.

  46. 46.

    Ruckus

    @schrodinger’s cat:
    That’s pretty harsh.
    Not disagreeing with you in the slightest though. Mainly because she destroyed a republican running and he is the republican running.

  51. 51.

    Chris

    @Betty Cracker:

    Yes to both points. And I mean, considering that Trump’s success is due in no small part to his ripping the Republican establishment a new one, citing establishment Republicans against him seems more like handing him free publicity.

    (Heck, I hate the guy and I’m still thrilled at the way he completely destroyed them).

  53. 53.

    Kay (not the front-pager)

    I would like to point out, if no one has already, that 1 day after saying that he would campaign on the issues if Clinton was “nice to me,” Donald trump said at a large rally in WV that Hillary Clinton was “involved in every aspect of Bill Clinton’s administration. Every aspect! Well, not every aspect… I didn’t know people in WV ha such dirty minds!”

    I can’t believe we’re at this place in 2016.

  57. 57.

    Schlemazel Khan

    @Cacti:
    I hate when I forget the magic words & don’t fix them so they pass.

    FYWP ate a funny post i made in the thread below & I didn’t feel like typing it again. The product is extremely frustrating.

  58. 58.

    scav

    Who’s the leader of the club
    That’s bad for you and me
    T-R-U-M-P-T-D-U-M-P-T
    Hey! there, Hi! there, Ho! there
    Yuuge and classy as can be
    T-R-U-M-P-T-D-U-M-P-T

    Trumpty Dumpt!

    Trumpty Dumpt!

    Forever let us comb our hairpiece
    High! High! High! High!

    Come along and sing a song
    And join the jamboree!
    T-R-U-M-P-T-D-U-M-P-T

    …..

    Come along and sing our song
    and join our family

    T-R-U (cause it’ll all be true)
    M-P-T (truly truly empty!)
    D-U-M-P-T (We’ll all be living in the dumps!)

    Now its time to say goodbye
    to all our company.
    D-U-M
    Spoken:
    it’ll be real soon
    P-T-Y
    Spoken:
    why? because of sanity
    T-R-U-M-P.

    Dumpty-Trump!

  61. 61.

    Schlemazel Khan

    @Villago Delenda Est:
    Over on Gizmodo today I saw a commentator with the nym “Trumpf Delenda Est” and though that was perfect. start with Drumpf then the village!

  62. 62.

    Mnemosyne

    @Betty Cracker:

    As a general election strategy, no. As a way to keep stirring up the shit and getting the Republicans to continue to fight each other in the lead-up to their convention, absolutely.

  63. 63.

    raven

    (CNN)A federal law enforcement officer sought in the fatal shootings of three people at three places in less than 24 hours has been arrested, police in Maryland said Friday afternoon.

    Eulalio Tordil, 62, was taken into custody without incident, Montgomery County Police Capt. Paul Starks said at a news conference.
    Police identified the suspect’s car in a parking lot near a supermarket where one of the victims was killed earlier in the day, then spotted him inside nearby businesses, according to a law enforcement official.

  65. 65.

    Kyle

    Don’t go after Trump. Go after the ones that nominated him. Paint them as the bigots, racists and xenophobes they are, and then explain that voting for him or any republican means you’re a racist, bigoted xenophobe.

  67. 67.

    Joyce H

    Something I’d like to see get a lot more attention – not necessarily from Clinton herself but from pro-Clinton surrogates. When Trump’s father died, the will cut out the family of Trump’s deceased elder brother. The nephew sued about it (alleging undue influence on the part of Trump), and Trump’s response was to cancel the nephew’s family’s health insurance – at a time when the nephew’s wife had just had a baby with cerebral palsy. The judge hearing the lawsuit ordered the insurance restored, but Trump was entirely unapologetic about it – he was angry at the nephew for daring to challenge his father’s will, and saw no problem with threatening the health and life of a baby as a bargaining chip in a money dispute. Imagine this sort of temperament and character with the power of the federal government behind him.

  68. 68.

    Terry chay

    @Iowa Old Lady: the only reason that they had any press on the Sanders-Clinton contest is because the Republican one was such a shit show they needed Both Sides Do It. Now that the latter is decided they’ll drop the former.

  69. 69.

    rp

    It’s funny that Freddie de Boer is one of the first commenters on the gawker article (of course very anti-HRC).

    I think everyone is overthinking this. There are plenty of ways to attack trump, and Clinton doesn’t have to pick one. He’s dangerous and stupid and crass and inexperienced and a thin skinned bully. Hanging a lot on a handful of comments in early May is stupid. Moreover, HRC has HUGE structural advantages over Trump. Don’t get too caught up in the day to day narrative.

  70. 70.

    Facebones

    Let me spare you the drama. Here is how the next seven months play out:

    1) Sometime over the summer, there will be an outlier poll, showing either Trump tied with Clinton or Trump one or two points ahead.

    2) This will set off the quadrennial celebration of Democrats and Concern Trolls Lighting Themselves on Fire. “We shoulda picked Bernie!” “I toldya so!” “Trump is unstoppable!”

    3) The media will do everything in their power to make it a horse race, through the magic of false equivalency.

    4) Trump will come oh so close to calling Hillary a c***y bitch, but not actually say the words, and he’ll be called presidential for not actually cursing at her.

    5) In the end, it won’t even be close. Hillary will get 400+ EVs and a senate majority. And the Republicans will immediately claim she has no mandate because people were voting against Trump and not for her.

  71. 71.

    rikyrah

    @liberal:

    “First responsibility of the president: Control of nuclear launch codes,” added a Florida Republican. “Had Trump been in office in October 1962, we wouldn’t be here to have this survey.”

    OUCH
    Scary, but true.

  72. 72.

    Betty Cracker

    @rp:

    Don’t get too caught up in the day to day narrative.

    Excellent advice that almost everyone will fail to heed.

    @Facebones: Sounds about right.

  75. 75.

    Brachiator

    Go with Deadbeat Donald. It makes a pretty effective argument against electing the man.

    Sigh. No.

    Trump has bounced back from business bankruptcies, as have any number of viable businesses. People who think that Trump’s business bankruptcies are a big deal probably also think that the US can easily default on its own debt.

    There have been a number of people who were failures in business who turned out to be good presidents. Ever heard of Harry Truman?

    @Betty Cracker:

    I don’t like the strategy of pointing out how much establishment Republicans dislike Trump. Establishment Republicans are douchebags, so being hated by them isn’t a deficit.

    Exactly! And Trump became a hero to his base by publically humiliating, in turn, Jeb!, Little Marco, Cruz and most famously Mittbot 2000. He even dared skewer Dubya over the Iraq War.

    The stupid Democratic Party ad that has leading Republicans denouncing Trump only reminds Trump supporters of how much they love their man, and how much they hate the GOP mainstream.

    @Jeffro:

    “Palin in a suit” – been sayin’ it for months.

    This might get you some traction with Independents and others. Trump’s base, like Palin’s deeply believe that the dumbest white man in America is better than a black man, and probably better than a “weak” woman like Hillary. The racism and sexism is deep here. Deep.

    But in the end, Palin’s utter stupidity repelled most sane people. This may work with Trump as well. You have to hammer home not just that he is “dangerous,” but that behind the suit, tan and orange hair is an utter nincompoop.

  79. 79.

    Doug!

    That Pareene article was genius.

    Jared Leto lived in an abandoned insane asylum for a month to get into character as “Dangerous Donald.”

  81. 81.

    Matt McIrvin

    @Facebones:

    1) Sometime over the summer, there will be an outlier poll, showing either Trump tied with Clinton or Trump one or two points ahead.

    Already happened. Rasmussen’s come on line.

  82. 82.

    Patricia Kayden

    @Mike in DC: Needs to be tweeted one million times.

    @Facebones: Love your optimism about the outcome in November. I’m seeing a trickle of Republican leaders stating publicly that they will not vote for Trump because he is dangerous and unhinged. That bodes well for our side.

  84. 84.

    Mnemosyne

    @Brachiator:

    The stupid Democratic Party ad that has leading Republicans denouncing Trump only reminds Trump supporters of how much they love their man, and how much they hate the GOP mainstream.

    And this is bad why, again? Trump supporters are a minority within their own party. Driving a wedge between them and the more mainstream members sounds like a good strategy to try and prevent the Republicans from trying to unify around The Donald.

  85. 85.

    starscream

    I think the quotes of various Republican leaders slamming him are effective. Imagine if Bill Clinton, Obama, Kerry, Gore, Liz Warren, etc were all on the record talking about how dangerous Hillary is and how they couldn’t support her?

  86. 86.

    Soylent Green

    @Facebones:

    In the end, it won’t even be close.

    I think it will be a lot closer than we would like. The media will do everything it needs to do to get its horse race, and has already started its campaign to legitimize Trump. Meanwhile, most of the disaffected Republicans, including the Nevertrumpers currently bleating over at Redstate, will come around. Even now some of their people are laying the groundwork.

  87. 87.

    Turgidson

    @Brachiator:

    The stupid Democratic Party ad that has leading Republicans denouncing Trump only reminds Trump supporters of how much they love their man, and how much they hate the GOP mainstream.

    Again, the audience for that ad isn’t Trump’s fan club. We all know they aren’t going to convinced to vote against the Short-Fingered Vulgarian. The ad is aimed at everybody else. Literally, everybody else, which makes up 60-70% of the electorate at the moment, at least.

    There is still a faction of the GOP that would have preferred to go with a standard-issue GOP nominee (any of which would have still been terrifying to imagine as president, mind you, but in different ways). It isn’t big enough to win the primaries, but it’s a few percent of voters. No harm in HRC trying to peel some of them off and encourage further shit-flinging within the GOP at this stage.

  88. 88.

    Calouste

    @Brachiator:

    The stupid Democratic Party ad that has leading Republicans denouncing Trump only reminds Trump supporters of how much they love their man, and how much they hate the GOP mainstream.

    That ad is not targeted at Trump supporters. It’s targeted at the 60% of the GOP that didn’t vote for Trump.

  90. 90.

    Joyce H

    @Mnemosyne:

    Trump supporters are a minority within their own party. Driving a wedge between them and the more mainstream members sounds like a good strategy to try and prevent the Republicans from trying to unify around The Donald.

    Very much this. The thing we have to remember is that the Trump supporters are a minority in a minority party. And we’re not going to change those people’s minds. All the stuff they talk about when asked why they support Trump? “He’ll build a wall, he’ll get ISIS, he’s self-funded”, etc – those aren’t really reasons, they’re excuses. The real reason they’re supporting Trump is that they like his personality – the same personality that turns off the entire rest of the world. So you’re not going to get those people to turn on Trump. He can now start being not self-funded, can take back promises to build the wall etc, and he won’t lose support, because those promises aren’t really why they support him. They support him because they want to follow a swaggering bully who doesn’t make them feel stupid because he doesn’t know any more than they do.

    Don’t worry about those people. You’re not going to convince them not to vote for Trump. What we have to do is make sure that the pool of Trump supporters doesn’t grow, but stays confined to this toxic minority of conservatism.

  92. 92.

    Frankensteinbeck

    I prefer Clinton goes light on trump. Trump will make himself look like an idiot. She only has to do whatever equivalent of an eye roll suits the situation, and roll out the occasional fact sheet about why he’s wildly, utterly, pathetically ignorant and wrong. Absolutely do not make it personal.

    Why? Because I want her to pin the entire Republican Party to that jackass. Make the whole country face that Trump is no random loser. He is the bigotry and spite and ignorance that their party is all about. I want everyone, especially minorities, to think of Trump when they think of Republicans, forever.

    @jayackroyd:
    Well, since all he’ll have are vague insinuations and exotic conspiracy theories to draw from, assuming the very unlikely prospect he’ll try that tactic, I assume she’ll laugh at him and talk about his mob connections and shady business dealings. The guy is one giant target on ‘corruption.’

  94. 94.

    Villago Delenda Est

    @Calouste: Everyone forgets that “Anyone but Drumpf!” got more votes than Drumpf did. The way the GOP structured their primary process gave Drumpf an advantage that the designers did not anticipate.

  95. 95.

    Soylent Green

    @Frankensteinbeck:

    I prefer Clinton goes light on trump.

    I’d like to see her respond to his personal attacks with that brush the dirt off her shoulder move, delivered with a smile.

  97. 97.

    shomi

    I almost never read anyone mentioning Drumpfs business relationships. A lot of contractors and other companies won’t work with him or insist on money up front. I guess they don’t want to say anything because it is not in their best business interests to do so. He’s got a really bad reputation for screwing people.

  98. 98.

    Patricia Kayden

    @Nemo_N: What would be an effective political ad, in your opinion? Trump writes his own anti-Trump ads with his behavior and bigoted comments. Shouldn’t be hard to come up with some great ads denouncing him based on his campaign alone.

    @WarMunchkin: True. Calling someone a “Donald Trump” in coming years will be cause for a serious beat down.

  99. 99.

    Bob In Portland

    @singfoom: So when Hillary made the weapons deal with Dubai did the weapons go to the slaves or the slaveowners?

  101. 101.

    Calouste

    @Villago Delenda Est: The GOP did anticipate it, they just expected that the advantage would go to Jeb?!??, not Trump. There was a reason that Florida was among the first states that were winner-takes-all, as well as South Carolina being virtually winner-takes-all. They were expected to be Bush states.

  103. 103.

    catclub

    @Calouste:

    It’s targeted at the 60% of the GOP that didn’t vote for Trump.

    And also any independents, who will wonder why so many of the Donald’s own party do not like him.

  105. 105.

    Calouste

    @Patricia Kayden:

    I’m seeing a trickle of Republican leaders stating publicly that they will not vote for Trump because he is dangerous and unhinged.

    Including the two Republican Presidents still alive and the most recent Republican Presidential and Vice-Presidential nominees. Well, they left off the “dangerous and unhinged” part, but it still looks pretty unprecedented.

  106. 106.

    Matt McIrvin

    @starscream:

    Imagine if Bill Clinton, Obama, Kerry, Gore, Liz Warren, etc were all on the record talking about how dangerous Hillary is and how they couldn’t support her?

    Well, they got Jim Webb and a bunch of people on my Facebook feed.

  108. 108.

    Bob In Portland

    @Enhanced Voting Techinques:

    I have faith in Hilary to make The Donald look like an entitled brat in the debate, she is really good and that and it’s almost impossible for The Donald to avoid it and not turn off his fan base.

    If H. Clinton, who’s been paid about three billion in donations, speaking fees, campaign donations, is going to make Trump look like an “entitled brat” I suspect his surrogates will use what’s on the record already to attack her.

    I suspect that she’ll beat Trump, but between the DINOs that Wasserman Schultz has lined up and the lack of Clinton coattails we’ll be looking at another 4-8 years of stalemate.

    Then the BJers can devote their full time on right-wing asswipes in the South who are patrolling the bathrooms of America.

  109. 109.

    liberal

    @Frankensteinbeck:

    I prefer Clinton goes light on trump. Trump will make himself look like an idiot. She only has to do whatever equivalent of an eye roll suits the situation, and roll out the occasional fact sheet about why he’s wildly, utterly, pathetically ignorant and wrong. Absolutely do not make it personal.

    I agree, simply because I think this is more effective. It would allow Trump to present himself as immature or even deranged. Getting into the mud with him doesn’t help. Of course, that doesn’t mean she shouldn’t rebut any slurs, but she should do so calmly, if coldly.

  110. 110.

    Mnemosyne

    @Soylent Green:

    If the Republicans rally their voters and every person who voted for Romney in 2012 votes for Donald in November, Clinton wins, 332 to 206.

    I honestly don’t think that the currently not voting white supremacists exist in large enough numbers in blue states to change that result, but you can try to convince me. 270 electoral votes is the minimum needed to win. Which states did Obama win in 2012 do you think are going to flip to Trump based on new voters?

  111. 111.

    I'mNotSureWhoIWantToBeYet

    @Enhanced Voting Techinques: I wouldn’t be at all surprised if Donnie refuses to have any debates. They would be so “unfair” to him, you see.

    Cheers,
    Scott.
    (And he probably won’t release his taxes, either.)

  112. 112.

    Trollhattan

    @Bob In Portland:
    Hodor! I liked the original far better. Clap harder.

    If you don’t eat your meat, you can’t have any pudding, how can you have any pudding if you don’t eat your meat!

  115. 115.

    Mnemosyne

    @Bob In Portland:

    We already know that Trump is Putin’s preferred candidate. That’s why Trump’s campaign is being run by a Putin guy. You may be able to get your wish of having the US be a Russian puppet state controlled by Putin if Trump wins.

  116. 116.

    Aleta

    @Facebones:
    In the months that follow:
    1) The media self-congratulates with stories of “Unprecedented Viewer Numbers Boost Profits: Quarterly Ad Gains,” followed by
    2) “U.S. Hopelessly Divided?” and
    “Bitterness Remains for Families, Neighbors,” then
    3) “Hilary Helpless to Heal Polarized Nation”

  117. 117.

    Trollhattan

    @rp:
    Good points. Had the media done their damn jobs from the escalator ride we wouldn’t be in this mess, but they played along, aimed uncountable cameras at him 24/7 and never really intelligently discussed his statements, policies and very importantly, sketchy history.

    NY Mag did their “Trump Dump” several months ago, posting every article on Trump they’ve published since the ’70s. Anybody who takes the time to read them understands with great depth, who we’re dealing with. But in the meantime, “Hardy-har, lookie what we’ve got here.”.

  119. 119.

    Jeffro

    @starscream: that’s an excellent point to bring up each and every time a friend relative or acquaintance thinks that “they’re equally bad choices”

  121. 121.

    Tom

    Off topic, but I think I need an intervention, or at least a beer. I was just going through Facebook, enjoying the pictures of my adorable grandchildren, and I got one of those “Breaking – The DNC has rigged the Democratic National Convention in July against Bernie Sanders by (fill in bullshit excuse du jour here)”. Ordinarily I would have sighed and moved on, but before I knew it I had typed and posted the following:

    “Breaking – Bernie, at this point you just sound like a whiny sore loser. You’ve been a Democrat for what, 9 months? Screw you if you haven’t figured out that people who have worked their asses off for decades to keep the Democratic Party viable in the face of humungous assaults from the Republican Party-Fox News axis of evil don’t take kindly to be called corporate whore sell outs.”

  123. 123.

    Bob In Portland

    @Trollhattan:

    The worst offenders of all are the American left’s cultural warriors, who daily wage some new battle over some imagined cultural offense, which has nothing to do with the lives of normal people but only the highly tuned sensibilities of those in the academic, publishing, and media ecospheres.

    The Hillary supporters have the authoritarian mentality of small property owners. They are the mirror image of the “realist” Trump supporters, the difference being that the Trump supporters fall below the median income level, and are distressed and insecure, while the Hillary supporters stand above the median income level, and are prosperous but still insecure.

    To manipulate them, the Democratic and Republican elites have both played a double game for forty years and have gotten away with it. They have incrementally yet quite comprehensively seized all economic and political power for themselves. They have perverted free media and even such basics of the democratic process as voting and accountability in elections. Elites on both sides have collaborated to engineer a revolution of economic decline for the working person, until the situation has reached unbearable proportions. The stock market may be doing well, and unemployment may theoretically be low, but people can’t afford housing and food, they can’t pay back student loans and other debts, their lives, wherever they live in this transformed country, are full of such misery that there is not a single word that an establishment candidate like Hillary Clinton or Jeb Bush says that makes sense to them.

    This time, I truly believe, there’s not a dime’s worth of difference between them. When they did have a difference to choose from—i.e., the clear progressive choice, Bernie over Hillary, who consistently demonstrates beating Trump by double the margins Hillary does—the elites went for Hillary, even though she poses the greater risk of inaugurating Trump as president. And now you want us to listen to your panic alarms?

  127. 127.

    Bob In Portland

    @singfoom:

    Near as I can tell, the effort to focus on Trump has a likely, if unfortunate, corollary. That because Trump is awful, we need to ignore the remaining primaries, tell Sanders to change his tone, and allow the ‘unity camp’ to come to the fore. Of course, ‘unity camp’ is the same as ‘the democratic party’ or ‘HRC’. Trump is awful. But I’m holding out on the unity camp. I belong to a constituency that HRC needs to win over. And until I see tangible evidence that this has sunk in, I’m going to do everything I can to push back. To be specific: suspicious Bernie voters ought to be seen as a bloc that might support HRC, but only in exchange for strategic focus, concessions, dialogue, and respect. And no existing progressive brand name, and not even Bernie himself, can ‘deliver’ that or act as an intermediary. As Bernie himself notes, he has no command and control over his base. That evidence can include Bernie surrogates and staffers working productively with the campaign after the DNC, information about spending and campaign activity driven by and for the left (not aimed at the center or the right), policy commitments to Bernie that are public, and changes in DNC leadership and rules. Let’s see some of that superpac money going to the Bernroots. Or else. We’ll see just how motivated the unity camp is when we see the expense reports. Near as I can tell, giving any ground to the unity camp before such evidence exists will weaken the left camp. My goal is to change the dynamics of U.S. politics for a generation, not to fight over a few percentage points in the general. Or haggle over lists and donations. The risks are higher, but the rewards make it a reasonable calculation. Bernie defied the odds to get bigger than almost anyone expected; the social forces now set loose upon the land are likely to resist assimilation, and that’s a good thing. As organizers, let’s remember that the heart of organizing is self-interest, not altruism. Want to defeat Trump? Give the Bernroots some skin in the game. Negotiate. Put that smile on. Because they will not swerve right in this game of chicken unless they are getting something in return. Trump is a battle we are going to win. When it is time to do so. After the current one is over, and not a day before. – See more at: http://downwithtyranny.blogspot.com/#sthash.4QQj3RVk.dpuf

  129. 129.

    Bob In Portland

    @singfoom: Lee Fang at The Intercept reports:

    A few days before the Georgia primary, influential Atlanta Mayor Kasim Reed … attacked Sanders as being out of step with Democrats on gun policy, and accused him of elevating a “one-issue platform” that ignores the plight of the “single mother riding two buses to her second job.” …

    Anne Torres, the mayor’s director of communications, told The Intercept this week that the column was not written by the mayor, but by Tharon Johnson, a former Reed adviser who now works as a lobbyist for UnitedHealth, Honda, and MGM Resorts, among other clients. The column’s revisions by staffers from Correct the Record are documented in the emails.

    Johnson, Torres told us, is a “capable writer,” who managed Reed’s first campaign. Reed “provided verbal edits and feedback to Tharon, but other than that, no one from my office or the mayor’s office wrote this op-ed,” Torres said. …

    Torres said that Correct the Record reached out to assist with the piece after being contacted by Johnson. “The extent of my assistance (as you can read in the emails) was sending over the mayor’s bio and headshot,” Torres said.

    Johnson did not respond to a request for comment. Correct the Record did not respond either. …

    Super PACs were intended to be independent entities, explicitly prohibited from coordinating directly with campaigns. Correct the Record, however, has tested the limits of campaign finance law and openly coordinates with the Clinton campaign. The group claims it is not engaging in campaign speech known as “independent expenditures,” a classification for traditional campaign communications, and therefore is exempted from the coordination rules.

  130. 130.

    the Conster, la Citoyenne

    @Tom:
    I used to take comfort knowing that the delusional idiots who were susceptible to epistemic closure were all on the right. No longer.

  131. 131.

    Cacti

    When Trump loses, Boob in Putinland can commiserate with Trump’s fans about how much they all hate democrats.

  133. 133.

    Brachiator

    @Mnemosyne: RE: The stupid Democratic Party ad that has leading Republicans denouncing Trump only reminds Trump supporters of how much they love their man, and how much they hate the GOP mainstream.

    And this is bad why, again? Trump supporters are a minority within their own party. Driving a wedge between them and the more mainstream members sounds like a good strategy to try and prevent the Republicans from trying to unify around The Donald.

    I don’t think it drives much of a wedge. But I think a lot of political ads in general are just a waste of money. You’ve seen a lot of this in California, where political consultants drool over the fees they get for placing expensive radio and tv spots that serve no purpose and change no minds.

    @Calouste:

    That ad is not targeted at Trump supporters. It’s targeted at the 60% of the GOP that didn’t vote for Trump.

    And these people instinctively shake off “advice” coming from Democrats. I think that Trump’s own recent crazy remarks scare Republicans more than these political ads.

    But, what they hey, it’s not my money, and the Democrats don’t call me for advice.

    But let’s follow the money. I noted in an earlier post that while in Indiana, Trump gave an interview to the UK Daily Mail. This went almost under the radar, and few paid attention to it. Trump gave big support for an expansion of Israeli settlements.

    And now the NY Times reports that money man Sheldon Adelson has announced that he will support Trump because, of course, he is good for Israel.

    I suspect that the GOP is looking to find a way to embrace Trump as quickly as possible.

  135. 135.

    Mike J

    @Tom: They tried to introduce a resolution about the Democratic elite rigging the blah blah blah at the local party meeting this week. Sorry, has to be on the calendar to debate it, 2/3rds required to waive rule. We got 2/3rds to uphold the rule.

  136. 136.

    Patricia Kayden

    @Cacti: srv and Bob in Portland can comfort themselves with alcohol. Doesn’t Trump have his own brand of wines? I recall him boasting about his many products during one of his victory “speeches”.

    @Tom: Your dilemma is why I’m glad not to have a Facebook or Twitter account. Too much aggravation. Thankfully, the primaries will be over soon.

  137. 137.

    A Ghost To Most

    As someone who thought the Book of Faces was a very bad idea from the start and do not participate, I am fascinated by all the drama it generates.

  139. 139.

    Mike J

    @Brachiator:

    And these people instinctively shake off “advice” coming from Democrats.

    Which is why it’s not Democrats in the ad.

  140. 140.

    Uncle Cosmo

    @Brachiator: You miss the point.

    Trump has bounced back from business bankruptcies, as have any number of viable businesses….

    No one cares if he’s a crappy businessman. But how many people has he hurt when he waltzed away from his debts?

    All you have to do is find a couple of small business owners** who can say something like this:

    When Donald Trump’s “Trump XXX” filed for bankruptcy, it left my business high and dry. I had to tap my personal IRA to pay my employees while we waited for the court to divide up the assets. And we only got paid 25 cents on the dollar in the end.

    Donald Trump wrecked my business & my retirement. And he walked away without a care.

    And a couple of former employees** who can say something like this:

    I worked at Trump XXX for Y years. I busted my butt. When Trump XXX filed for bankruptcy I was out of a job. It took me months to find another job. I had to apply for assistance to keep the heat on in the cold of winter. I had to file for food stamps to feed my children!

    Donald Trump humiliated me & forced me to beg for help. And he walked away without a care.

    You remind everyone how mofos like Drumpf don’t give a shit who they hurt when they go bankrupt.

    There have been a number of people who were failures in business who turned out to be good presidents. Ever heard of Harry Truman?

    How about we talk about Harry Truman the business failure, hm?

    Twenty years before he was president, Harry Truman owned a men’s clothing store. It thrived for a while, but a recession in 1921 sent sales plunging.

    … The business failed in 1922, deeply in debt.

    But Truman and his partners didn’t file bankruptcy. As David McCullough wrote in his biography of Truman, they willingly kept paying their debts decades after the store closed:

    …Fifteen years after the store went under, Harry would still be paying off on the haberdashery, and as a consequence would be strapped for money for twenty years.

    Truman and his partners found it immoral to leave creditors with losses. The store’s failure was the owners’ fault, not the lenders’. Debt was to repaid no matter how long it took. In 2012 the Truman Library paid a seven dollar debt the former president allegedly owed a paperboy from 1947.

    Truman settled his debts; Trump welshed on his. That’s how you use the bankruptcies.

    (ETA: **Of course you would have to vet those alleged victims’ stories very, very thoroughly. But once you did, ads like that would IMHO be devastating.)

  141. 141.

    PhoenixRising

    If any of you Juicers have time to debate this but not to knock on the doors of 10 likely Democratic voters & make sure they know how to register and where to vote…I’m coming to your houses.

    You can find out where to volunteer from your county or state party.

    Hillary might win AZ, but it won’t be due to the clever nickname for Trump we come up with. It will happen if we all GOYAKOD.*

    Get Off Your Ass and Knock On Doors

  142. 142.

    chopper

    @scav:

    You grow up and you calm down
    You’re working for the Trump Clown
    You start wearing the blue and brown
    You’re working for the Trump Clown
    So you got someone to boss around
    It makes you feel big now
    You drift until you brutalize
    Make your first kill now

    In these days of evil Presidentes
    Working for the Trump Clown
    But lately one or two has fully paid their due
    For working for the Trump Clown

  143. 143.

    gwangung

    @Brachiator:

    The stupid Democratic Party ad that has leading Republicans denouncing Trump only reminds Trump supporters of how much they love their man, and how much they hate the GOP mainstream.

    Yes? And?

    You seem to be treating potential GOP voters as a monolith. Even if Trump supporters form a majority, that still leaves a huge chunk of potential GOP voters. Split off a significant chunk (meaning 20%) and that’s huge.

    Are you sure you get the concept of segmenting an audience? Or are you convinced that all GOP voters will vote in lock step for trump?

    I suspect that the GOP is looking to find a way to embrace Trump as quickly as possible.

    Which is why you air these ads NOW. Then change strategies later.

  145. 145.

    Trollhattan

    @Uncle Cosmo:
    IMO the ad of folks talking about their experiences with Trump U is perfect in content and in tone. It’s a deep, deep well he’s handing over and we’re the better side when it comes to creative media.

  148. 148.

    FlipYrWhig

    @Bob In Portland:

    Anne Torres, the mayor’s director of communications, told The Intercept this week that the column was not written by the mayor, but by Tharon Johnson, a former Reed adviser who now works as a lobbyist for UnitedHealth, Honda, and MGM Resorts, among other clients.

    Does this tendentious obnoxious bullshit come from Glenn Greenwald directly? Because it’s his stock in trade: juxtaposition dressed up to look like causality. The essay was written by an advisor who is known for his writing but is also a lobbyist for several interests among others AND THUS the writing that was by the advisor was clearly at the behest of those interests, and also Hillary Clinton, because she’s a few hopscotch jumps away too.

    By that same logic, Bernie Sanders is enmeshed with Donald Trump. Sanders’s adviser Tad Devine worked on the Viktor Yanukovych campaign for the presidency of Ukraine–alongside Paul Manafort, key advisor to Donald Trump.

    Meanwhile Paul Manafort, whose firm worked on Republican John McCain’s losing effort, and Tad Devine, a top strategist on the Democratic presidential campaigns of Al Gore in 2000 and John Kerry in 2004, are consulting for Victor Yanukovych, the pro-Russian frontrunner in the polls. [Politico, 2009]

    WHEELS WITHIN WHEELS FOLLOW THE MONEY

  149. 149.

    gogol's wife

    @Mnemosyne:

    I wish you spoke Russian so we could seekritly communicate about the Musical That Dare Not Speak Its Name. Interesting that he’ll be in competition with Lloyd Webber, no? Kind of poignant.

  150. 150.

    D58826

    @Chris: 3 dead and the perp in custody. He was a suspended federal protective service cop. Had been forced to turn in his badge/gun due to a domestic violence protective order out on him.

    And a carryover from an earlier thread – CNN is reporting a second man has come forward publicly to say he was raped by Sandusky in the mid 70s’. And that he was contacted by two PSU official;s on the phone by the names of Jim and Joe. They tried to talk him out of reporting what happened. The man is positive ‘Joe” was Paterno because he recognized the voice.

  152. 152.

    Uncle Cosmo

    @Boob In Putinland: Y’know, “go fuck yourself” is so inadequate a response to your bloviation & fair-use-be-damned c&p. Looking forward to the day that a FPer posts something on the order of–

    Scrofulous Q. Kleinschlong, better known to BJ readers as the longstanding troll ‘Bob in Portland’, was struck by a speeding bus this morning & took a very long, agonizing time to die.

  153. 153.

    Mike J

    @PhoenixRising:

    If any of you Juicers have time to debate this but not to knock on the doors of 10 likely Democratic voters & make sure they know how to register and where to vote…I’m coming to your houses.

    I’ve spent the morning bulk loading addresses into a geospatially enabled database along with tiger line data. Right now, given an address I can tell you congressional district. legislative district, precinct, court district, school district, water district, and county/city council district for any address in King County. I’m hoping before the night is over to feed in a precinct number and have the addresses come back out (the data’s all there, just getting the queries right.)

    So if you need directions to hand out the ass kickings, talk to me.

  154. 154.

    Mnemosyne

    @gogol’s wife:

    LMM actually knows all of those guys now — I think he and ALW met in person after exchanging Twitter compliments. I think that, like Sondheim, ALW will be happy to see LMM win (with maybe a little pang, because these guys are competitive).

  155. 155.

    Trollhattan

    The Canada fire is a real monster Just wow, and it’s fricking May! Check the kicker at the end of this excerpt.

    The only evacuation convoy leaving the Canadian city of Fort McMurray has been suspended due to 200ft (61m) flames flanking the road, officials say. The police-escorted convoy of 1,500 vehicles was due to pass by the southern part of the city en route to Edmonton and Calgary.

    Parts of the city in the province of Alberta have been left devastated after a wildfire struck earlier this week. Officials had said it would take four days to to move all the evacuees.

    “We have stopped due to heavy smoke,” said Sgt Jack Poitras of the Royal Canadian Mounted Police. “You get flames of 100, 200ft up in the air on both sides of the road so it’s not safe.”

    The BBC’s James Cook, who is in Alberta, says that officials now fear that an oil facility near the flames could explode.

    The town exists primarily to serve the tar sands extraction industry, probably the dirtiest, most energy-intensive form of oil. Mid-spring fires that far north might just be considered a consequence of climate change.

  156. 156.

    Mnemosyne

    @gogol’s wife:

    In non-LMM Tony news, I’m curious to see what wins Best Musical Revival. I think “The Color Purple” is the front-runner, but the Deaf West version of “Spring Awakening” sounded frickin’ amazing since they had hearing and deaf performances side-by-side.

  157. 157.

    Trollhattan

    It’s possible J-Stew makes it back on the air before the general in November. Make it so, HBO!

    The nightly one-two punch of TDS-Colbert is something I dearly miss.

  158. 158.

    Kathleen

    @Iowa Old Lady: National RePublicAn Radio is now the “All Trump All The Time” station (playing all of your favorite hits commercial free!!!!!). On All Things Considered Brooks and Dionne discussed the campaign and the topic of Hillary actually came up!!! But the topic was “Hillary in disarray” because she said coal jobs would be gone and an attendee at one of her events in West Va called her out for her statement. The audio clip featured her apology. Is it just me or does it seem that Hillary is the only candidate who has to apologize during this campaign.

  159. 159.

    Davis X. Machina

    I’m looking forward to all the “Hillary is campaigning wrong!” stories that will run between now and the “Hillary’s inaugural address was terrible!” stories.

  160. 160.

    Uncle Cosmo

    @Trollhattan: Excellent point. If I had been thinking of Trump U, I would have cited those ads as a template for attacking the Trump bankruptcies; they are two adjacent sides of his house of cards. We can hit the latter as well as the former if we can dig up & verify innocent victims of his insouciance.

  161. 161.

    Trollhattan

    @Uncle Cosmo:
    Ya know, if you keep holding back like this you’ll never truly heal. :-P

    (Am having a great time re-living the ’80s in the form of The Americans, and its resurrection of EST.)

  162. 162.

    Jim, Foolish Literalist

    southpaw ‏@ nycsouthpaw 22m22 minutes ago
    A bad nickname and that hat (both creations of the DNC, not the campaign, btw) are possibly unhelpful, but utterly insignificant.

    I concur

    though I do like the deadbeat donald thing

  163. 163.

    Soylent Green

    @Mnemosyne:I guess I think the popular vote may be unpleasantly close. But yes, we are in good shape in the EC.

    The one iffy thing is whether Trump’s demagoguery can get bigoted morons who don’t normally vote to turn out, possibly flipping states in the Upper Midwest and elsewhere. But probably not.

  167. 167.

    joel hanes

    @the Conster, la Citoyenne:

    Liz Warren has been going at him pretty good

    It’s time for Sen. Al Franken to put aside gravitas for a bit and limber up those satirical chops.
    The nation needs him, and it’s a target-rich environment.

  169. 169.

    Mnemosyne

    @Soylent Green:

    I don’t think even the popular vote is going to be close. The only demographic that likes Trump is white men. Romney won 62 percent of white men in 2012, and he still got thumped.

    Every other voter demographic — including white women — hates Trump. You can’t win the presidency based just on the votes of white men anymore.

    I can’t help but notice that the demographic that most vocally hates Hillary seems to be … white men. And, again, white men voting against her is not going to be enough to beat her.

    What you should really be worried about is shenanigans designed to prevent anyone other than white men from getting to the ballot box. If we can flood the polls with our voters, we can smother the shenanigans just by our numbers, but we have to get that turnout and not just sit home fretting about Trump.

    Time to get to work so we can crush him like a bug.

  170. 170.

    Mnemosyne

    @gogol’s wife:

    I dunno — I can’t see that ALW is all that emotionally invested in “School of Rock.” And he is apparently very nice and encouraging to younger composers.

    Plus, LMM already has a few Tonys under his belt, so he’s not a nobody from nowhere. He’s already in the club. He has the Sondheezy seal of approval.

  176. 176.

    The Lodger

    @Mnemosyne: Putin favors Trump because both of them basically have the same personality type. Putin’s is just a bit more developed, and he knows that.

  178. 178.

    Mike J

    Relevant to this thread:

    Jon Favreau ‏@jonfavs 25 minutes ago
    The collective bedwetting and hysteria over every mistake and lame move by the Clinton campaign will be like nothing we’ve ever seen.

  181. 181.

    Soylent Green

    @Uncle Cosmo: I don’t wish Bob a slow, agonizing death after getting hit by a bus. It’s a beautiful day for a walk here in Portland and he could get it done much faster by getting run over by the MAX train.

  183. 183.

    germy

    I just read Trump will be testifying about Trump University after the election.

    I was hoping he’d be compelled to give testimony about a week before election day or so.

  184. 184.

    Jim, Foolish Literalist

    Tweety just bellowed that “dozens” of FBI agents are investigating HRC’s emails. Hasn’t that number been knocked down to less than one dozen? no pushback from the panel

  189. 189.

    Uncle Cosmo

    @Soylent Green: Whatever rolls your trolls, SG. I’d settle for a donkey cart so long as it backed over him enough times to finish the job.

  191. 191.

    Jim, Foolish Literalist

    so…. I guess Elizabeth Warren said something else about Trump today?

    Donald J. Trump ‏@ realDonaldTrump 31m31 minutes ago
    Goofy Elizabeth Warren, Hillary Clinton’s flunky, has a career that is totally based on a lie. She is not Native American.

    Donald J. Trump ‏@ realDonaldTrump 31m31 minutes ago
    Let’s properly check goofy Elizabeth Warren’s records to see if she is Native American. I say she’s a fraud!

    Donald J. Trump ‏@ realDonaldTrump 31m31 minutes ago
    I hope corrupt Hillary Clinton chooses goofy Elizabeth Warren as her running mate. I will defeat them both.

  192. 192.

    SiubhanDuinne

    @Schlemazel Khan:

    Do you have any idea who the laughing woman is? She looks vaguely familiar, but I am not current with the Sunday morning panels.

  193. 193.

    Mike J

    @Jim, Foolish Literalist:

    Elizabeth Warren ‏@elizabethforma May 3
    Here’s what else is real: @realDonaldTrump has built his campaign on racism, sexism, and xenophobia.

    @realDonaldTrump incites supporters to violence, praises Putin, and is “cool with being called an authoritarian.”

    .@realDonaldTrump attacks vets like @SenJohnMcCain who were captured & puts our servicemembers at risk by cheerleading illegal torture.

    And @realDonaldTrump puts out out contradictory & nonsensical national security ideas one expert called “incoherent” & “truly bizarre.”

  194. 194.

    SiubhanDuinne

    @Tom:

    Well done. I may copy-and-paste that to my own page when (not “if”) I get similar messages.

  196. 196.

    the Conster, la Citoyenne

    @Mike J:

    That’s my senior Senator, who’s on a mission. She’s a heat seeking missile now and she’s got a better twitter game. It’s ON.

  197. 197.

    Iowa Old Lady

    @Jim, Foolish Literalist: Goofy? What is he, 8? What does he even mean by that? And how can anyone who’s heard Warren speak think her “whole career” is built on Trump’s bizarre claim? Does he not know how much it takes to become a professor at Harvard?

  199. 199.

    scav

    @lamh36: Good for London. As things are so generally insane, progress anywhere is something I’ll welcome.

  200. 200.

    lihtox

    She should treat Trump as if she thought he was adorable, pretending to be qualified. That would drive him insane.

  201. 201.

    Matt McIrvin

    @Iowa Old Lady: Well, Scotty Brown tried that. The constituency of some racist dude in my town who puts big signs on his house was really impressed. We’ll see how well it works nationally.

  204. 204.

    Citizen_X

    @Jim, Foolish Literalist:

    has a career that is totally based on a lie. She is not Native American.

    Because that approach worked so well for Scott Brown. Don’t forget the tomahawk chops, Donnie!

  205. 205.

    Schlemazel Khan

    @SiubhanDuinne:
    no idea who she is, most of the airheads are distinguishable only by gender, any guy could replace any other guy & any gal could replace any gal on these shows.

  206. 206.

    lamh36

    @Jim, Foolish Literalist: Liz Warren’s responding to Trump on twitter…

    Her timeline is LIT!

    ‎@elizabethforma
    If you think recycling Scott Brown’s hate-filled attacks on my family is going to shut me up, @realDonaldTrump, think again buddy. Weak.

    @elizabethforma
    “Goofy,” @realDonaldTrump? For a guy with “the best words” that’s a pretty lame nickname. Weak!

    ‎@elizabethforma
    I called out @realDonaldTrump on Tuesday. 45 million saw it. He’s so confident about his “counter punch” he waited until Friday night. Lame.

    @elizabethforma
    .@realDonaldTrump lied his way through the primaries without being held accountable. That’s over.

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    Brachiator

    @lamh36: Great news that Said Khan, Labour Party, has been elected mayor of London. First Muslim of a major Western city. Wonder if a president Trump would welcome him on a US visit?

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    Jim, Foolish Literalist

    @lamh36: If you think recycling Scott Brown’s hate-filled attacks on my family is going to shut me up, @ realDonaldTrump, think again buddy. Weak.

    boom, I love it. I think she is going to drive him nuts over the next few months. Doesn’t it look like fun, Senator Franken? I think you have a friend name Lorne who might know some people who are willing to help you come up with some lines? John Dingell also has a great twitter account, that it pleases me to think he writes himself.

    Not really surprising he doesn’t get that he’s run out of people who are going to walk on tip-toes to try to appease him.

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    Captain C

    @Soylent Green:

    The media will do everything it needs to do to get its horse race, and has already started its campaign to legitimize Trump

    I suspect that if the media can get a ratings-grabbing months-long public meltdown, they would be happy to take that in lieu of a horse race.

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