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Since when do we limit our critiques to things we could do better ourselves?

Putting aside our relentless self-interest because the moral imperative is crystal clear.

Not all heroes wear capes.

In my day, never was longer.

Take your GOP plan out of the witness protection program.

“I never thought they’d lock HIM up,” sobbed a distraught member of the Lock Her Up Party.

DeSantis transforms Florida into 1930s Germany with gators and theme parks.

Despite his magical powers, I don’t think Trump is thinking this through, to be honest.

After roe, women are no longer free.

Putin must be throwing ketchup at the walls.

I’d like to think you all would remain faithful to me if i ever tried to have some of you killed.

He really is that stupid.

Too often we hand the biggest microphones to the cynics and the critics who delight in declaring failure.

It’s the corruption, stupid.

Happy indictment week to all who celebrate!

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American History and Black History Cannot Be Separated

This fight is for everything.

Republicans don’t want a speaker to lead them; they want a hostage.

Let’s delete this post and never speak of this again.

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This is where pointy birds come from:

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In other news, this creature is still the presumptive Republican Party nominee:

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It’s not like we haven’t had time to get used to it. It’s not like the Republican Party hasn’t been venal, corrupt and evil for decades. But it still seems surreal, at least to me.

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  4. 4.

    singfoom

    I obviously don’t want Trump to win, but given the logic that he will lose in the general and has torn the Republican party asunder, is it really selfish of those people who resisted him?

    I mean, they would say they’re on the side of the Republican party, which is a large group of people (whose views I disagree with viscerally) while Trump is on his own side, using the party for his own purposes.

    Who is being selfish again?

    Crooked Hillary doesn’t have a good sound to it, he needs something more pithy.

  5. 5.

    dr. bloor

    @Patricia Kayden:

    why does he think that normal people will find him appealing?

    HIs strategy appears to be based on the assumption that normal people now constitute a minority of the US population.

    We’ll find out if he’s right.

  6. 6.

    Big Ole Hound

    Double-talk Donald may have been hatched from a pointy egg. That would explain the malfunctioning brain that cannot tell facts from bullshit.

  7. 7.

    TaMara (HFG)

    I know, I know, the answer to this is obvious. But how in the hell do these talking heads report Drumps attack on Hillary and Bill regarding BC affairs and not mention Drumps infidelity even ONCE? Don’t even hint at it. WTF. I hate everyone.

  8. 8.

    eric

    “Bankruptcy Donald” or perhaps “Silver spoon Donald” or better yet: “Douche”

  9. 9.

    MikeBoyScout

    Today would be a great day to plan to meet tomorrow with that person you know who isn’t registered to vote and then register her to vote so she can help decide who governs us.

    If we all do our little bit we can win the whole kit and caboodle.

    Yes.We.Can

  10. 10.

    WarMunchkin

    I again note that this guy will forever occupy a place within our history books. People will actually have to know, for exams, one day, that Donald Trump existed and the major themes of his campaign and how he was successful at this time in our story. Unsightly.

  12. 12.

    delk

    Did a pointy bird lay that egg?

    O pointy birds, o pointy pointy,
    Anoint my head, anointy-nointy.

  15. 15.

    Jim, Foolish Literalist

    broken clock, blind squirrel, etc….

    McKay Coppins ‏@ mckaycoppins 2h2 hours ago
    Paul Ryan On Palin: “I Don’t Really Worry Too Much About Outside Agitators”

  16. 16.

    Shell

    and not mention Drumps infidelity even ONCE?

    CNN did today. Even said that he, at the time, claimed it was unimportant.

    Ooh, hoped tha pointy egg wasn’t too hard to lay.

  17. 17.

    Schlemazel Khan

    I think SPY has taken care of the nickname problem 30 years ago, it is as true today as it was then and the best part is we KNOW it gets under the short-fingered vulgarians skin.

  18. 18.

    gf120581

    @JPL: Given what a swine Trump is, he probably feels the proper response to a woman who finds out her husband is cheating on her is to shut up and let him have his fun. If you get angry about it, you’re a bad woman.

    It’s another way this guy is comparable to a mob boss; he’s got his wife and he’s got his mistresses and the wife doesn’t have any right to complain or even question the later.

  20. 20.

    Anoniminous

    I’m still waiting for the various Trump boosters and Infotainment Medium pundits to point to a 2012 Obama state Trump will flip.

  24. 24.

    SiubhanDuinne

    @delk:

    O pointy birds, o pointy pointy,
    Anoint my head, anointy-nointy.

    Elbows and knees, o jointy jointy.

  25. 25.

    debbie

    @JPL:

    It would be nice to hear the media doing its job.

    Oddly, the most likely to call Trump on his own lack of fidelity would be Fox, but only because they dislike him so much.

  26. 26.

    scav

    @Shell: I’d assume the pointy one might actually be easier to lay, although perhaps rather less comfortable for any expanding inhabitant — or maybe they just learn chicken yoga at an unusually early age. Run away to join the circus.

  27. 27.

    HRA

    Trump was not and is in it to win. He was in it to suck up the oxygen as in capturing the media and create havoc among the R candidates. Most of all to get rid of them from becoming the nominee. The question now is has he decided to really become president or is he still in place to keep any other candidate get the nomination by whatever rule would allow it to happen.

    I have quit paying attention to whoever is running now. This is the first time I am dang tired of it all.

  28. 28.

    Jim, Foolish Literalist

    Watching the Hayes show, I think HRC’s response to Trump is great, are we still all losing our shit about “Dangerous Donald”?

  29. 29.

    Roger Moore

    @singfoom:

    I obviously don’t want Trump to win, but given the logic that he will lose in the general and has torn the Republican party asunder, is it really selfish of those people who resisted him?

    I mean, they would say they’re on the side of the Republican party, which is a large group of people (whose views I disagree with viscerally) while Trump is on his own side, using the party for his own purposes.

    I think the counter-argument is twofold:

    1) There is obviously a very large constituency within the Republican party that does want him as the nominee. They may or may not be an absolute majority of the party, but they’re the strongest single group within the party. Like it or not, he’s the logical choice as nominee, and the rest of the party needs to accept that any play by the rules they set.

    2) The rest of the party can’t reasonably undermine him as nominee and then turn around and complain about losing the election.

    Shorter: the problem with division is something Trump exploited to earn the nomination, not something he created.

  31. 31.

    Jim, Foolish Literalist

    @different-church-lady: Wendell Wilkie, Alf Landon, Adlai Stevenson.

    And let’s be honest, Michael Dukakis.

    eta: I wince every time I hear someone refer to Glenn Kessler’s “Pinnochios”

  32. 32.

    JustRuss

    Has there ever been a whinier candidate than Trump? For any office? Anywhere?

  33. 33.

    Felonius Monk

    @singfoom:

    Crooked Hillary doesn’t have a good sound to it, he needs something more pithy.

    How about Madam President?

  34. 34.

    NotMax

    Demands new lyrics from the opening of Nilsson’s “The Point.”

    This is the egg
    And these are the chickens
    That’s the way they wanted it
    That’s the way they’re going to lay

  35. 35.

    Mandalay

    @HRA:

    He was in it to suck up the oxygen as in capturing the media and create havoc among the R candidates.

    Without having any hard evidence, I think Trump’s original motivation was to smear and fuck up Jebra really badly, and destroy his reputation.

    He’s already accomplished that. I’m sure he wouldn’t mind becoming president, but I bet it was never as important to him as destroying Bush.

  38. 38.

    Prescott Cactus

    (haiku)
    oh pointy lil egg
    very tasty in egg roll
    or scrambled with ham
    (/haiku till next April)

  40. 40.

    Betty Cracker

    @opiejeanne: No. We get a pointy egg occasionally, but it’s fairly rare — maybe one in 200 or so. In my career as a chicken wrangler, one thing that has surprised me is just how much variation there is in the eggs. We get tiny, humongous, smooth, bumpy, nearly white, fairly dark brown, etc. Their feed is consistent, but they do free range daily. Maybe that accounts for it. I don’t know.

  41. 41.

    Citizen_X

    @Patricia Kayden:

    Shouldn’t Trump figure out that if his own party leaders are against him, he probably won’t win a general election?

    Or, if most of the party’s rank-and-file voted against him? *cough* Bernie *cough*

  45. 45.

    ThresherK

    Woo. Five minutes in, Dallas scored twice in about thirty seconds. It’s a game seven and in St. Louis.

  49. 49.

    TS

    That a nominee for President calls other nominees by bully names is completely beyond my understanding of a political campaign. Palin rousing up the RWNJ hate is nothing compared to what Trump is doing – demonizing every person who dares to run against him. That the media does not call this out, continuously, as juvenile and pathetic says more about the media than about the GOP.

  50. 50.

    Citizen_X

    @srv: Gawd. If VDH is against Clinton, that counts as a plus. Alarum, alarum! The Persian Apocalypse is upon us!

  52. 52.

    Jeffro

    @TS: it does and we need to keep pointing it out. No excusing Trump, no false equivalence, no way no how.

    They’re either gonna go down with the
    Trumptanic or they can drown on their own, these rats

  54. 54.

    ThresherK

    @Linnaeus: Really? Oops. I have no rooting interest, but I think the NBCSN coverage detailing StL’s inability to get to the Western Finals lately have me looking ahead like it was a Game 7.

  56. 56.

    Roger Moore

    @scav:
    There are plenty of species of birds that lay very pointy eggs, and it doesn’t seem to be a problem. There’s a relationship between the shape of eggs and the style of nest in which they’re laid. The greater the risk of the egg rolling out of the nest, the pointier it tends to be on one end, because that means it rolls in a circle instead of a straight line.

  57. 57.

    Jim, Foolish Literalist

    Sahil Kapur ‏@ sahilkapur 5h5 hours ago
    “I’m also in favor of what’s called the public option,” Clinton says, including letting people buy into Medicare.

    Does anyone know where there’s a good write up of Medicare buy in and how it would work? Seems to me a bunch of younger people buying into Medicare would be a huge boost

  58. 58.

    different-church-lady

    @ThresherK: Poor St. Louis: losers of 12 straight Stanley Cup Finals games; the only first-wave expansion team (of the five still extant) to not win a cup.

  60. 60.

    Linnaeus

    “Crooked Hillary”? This from a career con man who thinks he can manage the US economy like one of his leveraged deals that go bust and leave others holding the bag.

  61. 61.

    Germy

    Did you know that:

    Ice is really not ice at all, but a vegetable organism which forms on the surface of water to prevent it from freezing solid?

    An ordinary hen’s egg is the result of hypnotism?

    If you take a ton of anthracite coal (ordinary anthracite) and press it, you can use it as “pressed anthracite” for blacking up in minstrel shows?

    Mount Washington, of the Presidential Range, is really a depression in the earth’s surface which looks high only because the surrounding country is so much lower?

    The great general Hannibal was really a woman, and a five-foot-two woman at that?

    One year’s supply of that other condiment that comes in the second jar on a horse-radish cruet, would not cover one square foot of a city the size of Rochester, N. Y.?

    No one has ever actually seen Brooklyn Bridge? It is merely an action of light waves on the retina of the eye.

    Eel-grass, such as is now used to entangle oars, was once a delicacy in Egypt?

    If you were to inhale steadily for fifteen minutes, without once exhaling, your head would touch the floor in back of you?

    Frederick the Great once gave a walking stick to Voltaire which bent double every time he leaned his weight on it, which was the reason that Voltaire was such a cynic?

    The reason why it always says “twenty minutes past eight” on those big watches that hang outside jewelers’ shops is because that is actually the time at the particular moment when you are looking at it?

    – Robert Benchley, “My Ten Years In A Quandary (And How They Grew)”

  62. 62.

    dexwood

    @Betty Cracker:
    It was true for my hens, too, The Sisters of Perpetual Poultry. The shapes and shades were interesting. Down to three chicken nuns from the original eight. It’s become a retirement convent these days with only three eggs or so per week. Mostly, they spend their days in quiet contemplation.

  63. 63.

    a hip hop artist from Idaho (fka Bella Q)

    @Roger Moore: So it’s easy, like with round heels? Isn’t that the old (before my time) expression?

  65. 65.

    Shana

    @Germy: As if we needed another reason to love Robert Benchley’s humor. So deadpan yet so hilarious.

  66. 66.

    Betty Cracker

    Wow. Just saw AG Lynch’s remarks about the NC bathroom law (clip on the Hayes show). An excerpt:

    Let me also speak directly to the transgender community itself. Some of you have lived freely for decades. Others of you are still wondering how you can possibly live the lives you were born to lead. But no matter how isolated or scared you may feel today, the Department of Justice and the entire Obama Administration wants you to know that we see you; we stand with you; and we will do everything we can to protect you going forward. Please know that history is on your side. This country was founded on a promise of equal rights for all, and we have always managed to move closer to that promise, little by little, one day at a time. It may not be easy – but we’ll get there together.

    Brava.

  67. 67.

    Germy

    @dexwood: I remember the old 1930s animated cartoons where the hens would knit little scarves and sweaters while sitting on their nests.

  68. 68.

    Shana

    @oklahomo: I think he thinks that people watch his shows because they all want to be him. My millennial daughter watches Teen Mom because, in her view, it’s funny how these stupid women keep making stupid choices in their lives.

    ETA: Germy – I watched those cartoons too. Ah, childhood.

  69. 69.

    Germy

    @Shana: I recently heard a recording of a radio performance of “The Secret Life of Walter Mitty” with Benchley in the starring role.

  71. 71.

    Anoniminous

    @Roger Moore:

    I definitely want to meet his purveyor of Adult Recreational Hallucinogenics. That person has access to the Good Stuff.

  72. 72.

    Iowa Old Lady

    @Betty Cracker: I am in awe of Lynch’s willingness not only to defend the law but to speak out about how the administration believes in protecting equal rights. It seems like that should be routine, but it feels courageous. I don’t know whether to be happy she’s doing it or appalled at how shredded our ideal have become.

  74. 74.

    ThresherK

    @different-church-lady: Well, it’s 3-0 Stars now, and there’s a goalie swap. With a history like that I’m surprised I didn’t gravitate towards them in my formative years.

  75. 75.

    scav

    @Roger Moore: Ah ha! Not as much fun as imagining a yoga-ready circus predisposition, but rolly eggs in nests should stick in that part of the gray matter not completely dedicated to silliness.

  76. 76.

    AkaDad

    The reason so many people already hate Trump is because he gets all the media coverage. If every “journalist” was saying “Trump is awesome”, then that would be a major problem.

  77. 77.

    Germy

    @Betty Cracker: This is why I get irritated when I see progressives call the president “Obummer” and do the whole “not a dime’s worth of difference” routine.

    Because would this ever happen in a Romney or a McCain administration?

  78. 78.

    SiubhanDuinne

    @dexwood:

    “All shall be well, and all shall be well, and all manner of thing shall be well.” — Julie Hen of Norwich

  81. 81.

    Jim, Foolish Literalist

    @Germy: speaking of which jackasses, Hayes is giving airtime to Michael Moore for some reason

  84. 84.

    Mike J

    @Germy: Why haven’t we dropped nukes on North Carolina yet? This is not the time for half measures. This neoliberal hand wringing is why we need a REVOLUTION!

  86. 86.

    Wallis Lane

    To paraphrase future Republican Regina George in “Mean Girls”:

    “Donald, stop trying to make “Crooked Hillary” happen! It’s not going to happen!”

  88. 88.

    dexwood

    @SiubhanDuinne:
    Thanks for the laugh. My girls have it easy and deserve the retirement. I can not tell you how many eggs they’ve given me over the last eight years. I make all well for them in thanks.

  89. 89.

    Jim, Foolish Literalist

    an on-topic headline

    Harry Reid Ties GOP To Obstruction, Chickens And Trump
    The Senate minority leader says his Republican colleagues are to blame for the rise of The Donald.
    “Donald Trump is the Republican presidential nominee. So let’s think about that,” Reid said in opening remarks on the Senate floor.
    “The party of Abraham Lincoln, Theodore Roosevelt and many other Republicans like Ronald Reagan, Dwight Eisenhower — the party of these great men — nominated a misogynistic, anti-Latino, anti-Muslim, anti-immigrant xenophobe,” Reid said.
    …
    “He’s the nominee of the Republican Party but it’s the nominee the Republican leaders deserve,” Reid said.
    “Republican senators need to stop waffling about Donald Trump,” Reid added. “I hear a number of Republican senators say, ‘I’m not going to the convention.’ Well, that solves the problem, doesn’t it? Republican senators need to say whether they’re going to vote for this guy. The Republican Party’s chickens have come home to the roost in the form of Donald Trump.”

    @Germy: I’ve got it muted, but the point seems to be to concern troll Hillary

  90. 90.

    different-church-lady

    Because I have better things to do:

    * St. Louis Blues: went to finals in 68, 69, and 70, got swept in all three series.
    * Minnesota North Stars: won a cup after the move to Dallas
    * LA Kings: finally broke through in 2012
    * Philadelphia Flyers: first expansion team to win a cup, in 74
    * Pittsburgh Penguins: broke through in 91
    * California Seals: moved to Cleveland in 76, merged with the North Stars in 78 (so in a way you could say they were part of cup history.)

  91. 91.

    SiubhanDuinne

    @raven:

    No. Thought I had yours in the archives but I guess not. Mine is SiubhanDuinne at gmail dot com

  95. 95.

    A Ghost To Most

    @oklahomo:

    If he’s right, we are simply living out the prequel to Idiocracy.

    I thought we had already accepted that as a given.

  96. 96.

    Zinsky

    Nice pecker – I mean for the bird that might come out of that pointy egg. Not on Donald Trump. Yes, Betty, it is surreal that we actually have a fascist wanna-be this close to the levers of power in America.

  97. 97.

    Li'l Innocent

    @dexwood: I understand Emily Dickinson once spoke of her household’s “invalid hens who have never done anything so vulgar as lay an egg”. (Remembered close to verbatim from “The Belle of Amherst”, I believe.)

  98. 98.

    Frankensteinbeck

    I am honestly astonished. Nothing else has caught me off guard in this election, but I really thought Trump was not dumb enough to go with the ‘crooked’ attack. Christ, the guy is one giant target zone for ‘crooked’ attacks. He’s going to look like a pile of bloody meat after the comebacks he’ll reap if he goes ahead with this. He quite likely won’t, because his attention span is miniscule.

    Important tip, Donald: You can only pull off the ‘crooked’ attack if you have a history as a purity pony and a long-running narrative as The Only Honest Person In The Room. Your long running narrative is as a lying, bigoted, not too bright blowhard.

  99. 99.

    Schlemazel Khan

    @NotMax:
    The folks at the phone company have a sense of humor, the area code for Cocoa Beach (home of Kennedy Space Center) is 321.

  100. 100.

    Mike J

    @Frankensteinbeck:

    but I really thought Trump was not dumb enough to go with the ‘crooked’ attack. Christ, the guy is one giant target zone for ‘crooked’ attacks.

    Republican campaigning 101: Attack your opponent with your weakest point.

  101. 101.

    A Ghost To Most

    Do constipated chickens lay pointy eggs?

    Can chickens even get constipated?

    It would be irresponsible not to speculate.

  102. 102.

    SiubhanDuinne

    @A Ghost To Most:

    Can chickens even get constipated?

    Dunno about that, but I can tell you a very stupid riddle that my Mississippi relatives used to tell:

    Q: What did the constipated fly say?
    A: I specks not.

    (The only reason I remember this stupidity is that one of the older, somewhat non compos family members used to screw it up every time by phrasing it:

    Q: What’d the fly say?
    A: I don’t speck so.

    Not sure it translates in writing. Maybe you have to have Southern relatives.)

  103. 103.

    Mandalay

    @Frankensteinbeck:

    I really thought Trump was not dumb enough to go with the ‘crooked’ attack. Christ, the guy is one giant target zone for ‘crooked’ attacks.

    Have you heard the one about the draft dodger going after the war hero? President Kerry really nipped that one in the bud.

  107. 107.

    Monala

    I lived in a primary state in 2008, and missed the chance to caucus this year in Washington state due to work. Hubby and I just received primary ballots in the mail. I assumed they were for state and local offices, but no, they were for president. How does this work, having a primary vote after already having a caucus?

  112. 112.

    a hip hop artist from Idaho (fka Bella Q)

    @LAO: Incredibly delusional is being kind. As is totally ridiculous.
    @Omnes Omnibus:
    They (counsel as well as clients) seem to actually – perhaps literally – believe that the Yeehawd crowd was effectuating* adverse possession. By openly occupying the refuge and “notoriously chang[ing] the name* of the property.

    *Swear on the ashes of DFW those words are from the actual memorandum in support. LAO will vouch for this.

  114. 114.

    NotMax

    @Prescott Cactus

    Honestly don’t know one way or the other.

    May be lucky coincidence, as 572, 573 and 574 are assigned to areas in and radiating out from the county seat and it’s just geographic synchronicity.

    Do know it was the last exchange in the state to be changed from the old mechanical switches to digital ones, not all that long ago. In fact, one of the members of our little Saturday night gathering worked on that switchover.

  115. 115.

    LAO

    @a hip hop artist from Idaho (fka Bella Q): I especially enjoyed, the assertion in bold type that Ammon is not an anti-government, militia type but, instead, a federalist in the mold of Scalia and Roberts. Good grief this trial is going to be a shit-show.

    Curiously missing — any post-civil war jurisprudence on the power of the federal government versus the state.

    I’m almost looking forward to the government’s response.

  116. 116.

    Prescott Cactus

    @NotMax:

    In fact, one of the members of our little Saturday night gathering worked on that switchover.

    Not sure if thats where you hang your hat. It’s a nice place to visit, but I’d really love to live there.

  119. 119.

    opiejeanne

    @Betty Cracker: Interesting. I don’t remember seeing pointy eggs from our chickens when I was a kid. The white hens laid white eggs, the brown hens laid brown eggs, and size was the variation. They were Cornish cross and Leghorns. The leghorns laid white eggs that were almost all the same size. They were the “workhorse” of the egg ranching business back then. The Cornish crosses laid eggs of all sizes and sometimes double yolked eggs. One year a friend gave us a 55 gallon drum with red Canadian wheat and their eggyolks were almost pink. Went back to the usual corn and the color returned to bright yellow.
    There was a tiny egg one day, about the size of a robin’s egg, and we joked that the rooster had laid it. Looking back on it that might have been a joke by my grandfather that went unnoticed. He lived next door and the first year my parents planted a garden he went out after dark and by the light of his flashlight planted 4″ bean plants where Mom had planted beans the day before. I guess her reaction was hilarious, but I was so small I have no memory of it.

  120. 120.

    Lyn

    @Germy: I love Robert Benchley! I’m not sure how much he is read anymore — my father introduced me to his work, and I reread it all every few years.

  121. 121.

    scav

    @NotMax: Could be both. They could have been lucky in having that sort of number assigned to them in the block of numbers for the area and they just leapt on it and said, that one goes there to that central office and making all the central office assignments work around it. Minor giggle in an otherwise dull task. I’m not even sure central offices have to make too much geographic sense within an area code — probably were originally assigned more or less in block, but growth in demand probably messed them up long before it started nibbling away at area codes. (Plus the whole change in underlying technology).

  122. 122.

    a hip hop artist from Idaho (fka Bella Q)

    @LAO: Also:With this motion, the hyperbole stops now. Except the added emphasis was an underscore. Post-civil war jurisprudence is for sissy non-originalists.
    I can’t wait for the government’s response; no almost about it.

  124. 124.

    Omnes Omnibus

    @Lyn: My freshman year in college, I set up in a library carrel that was right by the humorists section. Benchley let me do a lot of procrastinating.

  126. 126.

    opiejeanne

    @Shana: Benchley used to be part of the curriculum in California HS English. I remember one particular short story of a man telling about his long-dead friends (or was it relatives?), walking together in the evening, coming back from fishing. Of course they weren’t dead and had just gone fishing earlier that day, so a while later when the two did appear the guy he was telling the story to became very agitated and ran away.

    I’m sure I’ve told that story all wrong because I get it tangled with a comment my somewhat demented grandmother made about my long dead grandpa and their son who would be coming along shortly after going fishing because the sun was going down.

  127. 127.

    J R in WV

    @Betty Cracker:

    We used to get eggs from the next door neighbors, who had been picking up “exotic” chickens for decades, in every color of the rainbow, nearly. Pastels, but pink, green, blue, and tans and almost yellows. I forget the names of the different breeds that would lay colored eggs, but they were reliable about the colors.

    And they almost never got white eggs. Just didn’t like how they looked…

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