Every candidate I voted for is going to lose so let’s root for the Pens!
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Every candidate I voted for is going to lose so let’s root for the Pens!
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Major Major Major Major
Is that guy from 2012 on the ballot? The one who was in jail?
Hal
Oh lord. A whole month of #feelthebern on Facebook. I guess small states dems aren’t going to win in November do count after all. On the bright side I’m on vacation next week, and Rupaul’s Drag Race finale is next Monday.
Mike J
Baud
@Hal:
Obama lost 9 of the last 11 states in 2008.
JPL
@Baud: You could too..
Susan K of the tech support
I did a search for where you are in West By God Virginia, and found this little gem. An interview with John Cole of Balloon Juice. From 2009.
Apparently there’s a Q about Twitter and the future of blogging. John’s answer (emphasis mine).
(articles looks as tho it’s a Q&A, at least from the meaning of the text. Alas, the formatting makes it hard to tell —at first glance— that it’s an interview)
Baud
@JPL: I’m going for a clean sweep. #ReachForTheStars
MazeDancer
WV exit poll – Black vote was so small they couldn’t even measure it.
The WV population is around 3% black. Scroll down to “race” on this exit poll post and you’ll see n/a under “Black”
Morzer
http://talkingpointsmemo.com/livewire/judge-orders-names-bridgegate-conspirators-released
Schlemazel Khan
@Baud:
Keep your feet on the gourds and keep reaching for cigars!
smith
@Morzer: Welp, there goes Christie’s VP slot.
Richard Mathew
Pens seemed to have the run of play they looked good in the first
benw
J Cole: “Awesome, WV is electing a lunatic to the state supreme court”
So WV is MORE functional than the US Senate?
amk
who da fuck is R. De La Fuente?
raven
@amk: “”Rocky” Roque De La Fuente Guerra (born October 10, 1954)[1] is an American businessman from San Diego, California who is running to be the Democratic nominee for President of the United States in the 2016 elections.”
Mike J
@amk: He hit 5.91 percent in American Somoa. Clinton 68, Sanders, 25, Rocky DLF 5.9.
Nate Cohen’s twitter feed tonight is all about the minor candidates.
SiubhanDuinne
@Major Major Major Major:
Could you narrow it down just a little?
Baud
Baud!/de! la! Fuenta! Guerra! 2016!
Mike J
smith
@Mike J: As WV goes, so goes the nation. Or something like that.
amk
@raven: @Mike J: Thanks. Too lazy to google.
Are we sure it’s not our Baud?
jl
@Baud:
” I’m going for a clean sweep. #ReachForTheStars ”
I think this is Baud! 2016!’s chance to sneak in and win both GOP and Dem primaries, and save the country. The general election debates would be historic.
I read Cruz said he might get back in. Anything can happen.
jl
@Baud: Or at the very least, Baud! 2016! could jump in on a fourth party ticket, shutting down the third party nonsense before it gets off the ground.
Baud
@jl: Even better, the Fifth Column ticket.
Villago Delenda Est
@jl: I’d hold out for fifth party ticket, because then you could play on the “fifth column” meme.
On edit: Great minds, etc. Baud!
? Martin
@smith:
Why? That’s still less baggage than Trump is carrying.
Villago Delenda Est
@? Martin: Time to hire a rent boy to carry that extra baggage.
? Martin
William Johnson, the white nationalist that is a Trump delegate that Trump campaign is now claiming was put on in error, will remain as a delegate per the CA SOS because it’s past the deadline to change delegates.
Omnes Omnibus
@Baud: Baud/Sullivan 2016!
PhoenixRising
Another open primary voted in by white people who were screwed by the 20th century, another Sanders win.
He saw his shadow, and we get 4 more weeks of horizontal violence. I hope tonight’s fundraising email at least attacks the bad guys, specifically the presumptive GOP nominee.
jl
@Baud: @Villago Delenda Est: Risky. A lot of low info voters won’t want to count that high. And nobody could win on the fourth party ticket, given the outrage of the rabble.
LAO
Goal!
LAO
Another goal!
? Martin
@LAO: Someone get the hockey disk into the mesh?
Miss Bianca
@Omnes Omnibus: DId you read the Larry Klayman thing? I was telling LAO that it sounded like the basis for a really twisted sitcom.
ETA: Actually, I think this Brad Paisley guy should be Baud’s VP. Then we could have the slogan, “For Baud! and Country!”
LAO
@? Martin: I’m really the only one watching the hockey? ?
raven
@LAO: Some people are watching the hoop.
LAO
@raven: fair enough.
Tripod
@Mike J:
Webb is ill suited by temperament to electoral politics. Maybe if O’Malley had run there he might have gained some traction. I just don’t think going in you plan on the paulbots settling on a Democrat. To my mind, that’s on Rand’s inability to be human. I don’t think he’ll get them in the future, so I guess they are available going forward. -cough- BAUD! -cough-
Upside – they love donating money to old men speaking truth to power. Downside – they’re kind of dicks.
Omnes Omnibus
@Miss Bianca: Joel Hansen is cray.
Juju
@LAO: Until I read the word puck, I didn’t realize the Pens was a hockey team.
Baud
@Tripod: Excellent. I accept campaign donations in both GOLD! and Bitcoins.
BillinGlendaleCA
@raven: You mean the ring.
BillinGlendaleCA
@Omnes Omnibus:
Must have missed a day of Con Law.
amk
ted crud’s nebraska firewell also crumbles. bummer.
Mike J
According to 538’s projections on the night of the Indiana primary, here’s what Sanders has needed since then:
May 7 Guam Sanders +43
May 10 West Virginia Sanders +52
Actual results:
Guam Clinton 60, Sanders 40
WV Clinton 39, Sanders 49
Here’s what sanders needs next week:
Kentucky Sanders +35
Oregon Sanders +57
Miss Bianca
@Omnes Omnibus: Way cray. In fact, “buggier than batshit” was the phrase that sprang to mind…
Omnes Omnibus
@BillinGlendaleCA: Nope, never missed a day. I am just out to sabotage Baud’s campaign.
Baud
@Mike J: WV ended up better for Clinton than I thought based on what I have been hearing all day.
Matt McIrvin
@Tripod: I’m still thinking Webb is a prime possibility for Trump’s running mate. It might help Trump a little in Virginia, where he otherwise has little chance, and picking a Democrat would give him new cachet among the No Labels post-partisan crowd.
raven
@BillinGlendaleCA: Think he knows the hoop is big enough for two balls to pass through it at once?
Baud
@Omnes Omnibus: As a Fifth Column candidate, I appreciate that.
BillinGlendaleCA
@Miss Bianca: I think the phrase is “Cray, Cray”(H/T to Larry Wal-Mart).
BillinGlendaleCA
@Omnes Omnibus: Ah, working with jl on that.
Omnes Omnibus
@BillinGlendaleCA: We may be working toward the same end, but we are not working together.
ETA: I am just a vicious Hildebeast. Ask anyone.
jl
@BillinGlendaleCA: We need more than three to make Baud! 2016! the protest candidate of the masses running against our oppressive Establishment.
And Baud! 2016! needs to share more campaign paraphernalia, But I told him to quit bogarting the joints.
Tom Q
@Baud: And only because of November Republicans voting for Sanders in massive numbers. She’d have actually won a closed primary.
It’s really kind of incredible, that Sanders is perceived (by the press, at least) to have made such a significant showing in the primaries, when, in reality, without Greens/libertarians/other independents, VT might have been his only primary win.
Baud
@Omnes Omnibus: How quintessentially Democratic.
jl
@Omnes Omnibus:
” We may be working toward the same end, but we are not working together. ”
But isn’t that how we work at BJ blog?
Baud
@Tom Q: Rules is rules. Same as when the Sanders folks complain about New York or Southern primaries.
Rolling Along
Wow, another Sanders win. Hillary is a very weak front runner, very weak, as evidenced by today’s Q-PAC shock polls.
Buckle up folks, the election will be a long and bumpy ride with a photo finish!!
#TooClose2Call
#OhioOhioOhio
#HorseRace
Davis X. Machina
@Tom Q:
You know what this means? There’s a constituency out there ripe for a..… third party.
Tom Q
@Baud: Just saying, the Democratic nominee ought to be able to win among Democrats. Occasionally.
Davis X. Machina
@jl: I prefer to think of it as ‘parallel play’.
Baud
@Tom Q: The Democratic nominee will, and that’s why it won’t be Sanders.
BillinGlendaleCA
@Baud: “I’m not a member of an organized political party, I’m a Democrat”*
*Will Rogers had a ranch out in Pacific Palisades which is now a state park, it’s on my to visit list.
jl
@Tom Q:
The analysis below says that caucuses, not open primaries, have been Sanders’ strength.
Closed Primaries Did Not Stop Bernie Sanders
http://www.realclearpolitics.com/articles/2016/05/02/closed_primaries_did_not_stop_bernie_sanders_130446.html
Davis X. Machina
@jl:
False consciousness did.
ThresherK (GPad)
@raven: Jeez he was on the ballot in My State a month ago, too. Top line, somehow.
If I ever wanted to be first on the ballot I’d have to sign up with AAAAAA Political Party it appears.
BillinGlendaleCA
@jl: Some of the caucuses are open as well, you just declare at the door.
Miss Bianca
@Davis X. Machina: oohh, bern!
chopper
@Rolling Along:
you’ve been right about everything so far. I’m a get on the hashtag bandwagon!
#buffoonery
Shana
@Matt McIrvin: Webb won’t help Trump in Virginia. Virginians don’t like Webb. Not the Dems. Not the GOP.
Tom Q
@jl: That, too, no question. And the proportional system has kept him seemingly in it longer than had there been any sort of winner take all in effect (even, say, a winner take all that kicked in at 60/40). And Hillary is still, in may ways, running away with it, given how hopelessly difficult it is to overcome a 300 delegate lead in a proportional system.
What I’m suggesting is, Sanders has really done much worse than most people realize, that only the caucuses and the openness of most primaries have kept from being a complete palooka.
Rolling Along
@chopper:
Democrats should be getting nervous given that they thought smugly that this would be a blowout but it’s turning to be very competitive! Intriguing!
Hillary is such a terrible candidate she’s in a TC2C horse race with Donald Trump, lol.
Origuy
@ThresherK (GPad): California lists candidates in random order; differently in every precinct.
amk
@Matt McIrvin:
Two egotistical clowns? Yeah, that’s the ticket.
PhoenixRising
@BillinGlendaleCA: It’s a lovely little ranch in my SIL’s neighborhood. I’ve had some good hikes there.
“It’s not what we don’t know that gives us trouble; it’s what we know that ain’t so.”
jl
@Tom Q: @BillinGlendaleCA:
Wiki records say
Closed caucuses: HRC 4, Sanders 6
Semi-closed caucuses: HRC 1, Sanders 2
Open caucuses: HRC 0, Sanders 3.
Unless I miscounted one or two.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Democratic_Party_presidential_primaries,_2016
People can hate Sanders if they want. But I have seen out-of-control theory spinning here with no point that I can see other than bashing whichever candidate a commenter is hating on.
For the record I have given Sanders some money in the past. I think HRC is an uninspiring candidate with an unnecessarily narrow vision, who may run a bad campaign. And the worst thing for Sanders’ own beloved political revolution may be him winning the presidency, since he won’t be able to deliver what his supporters expect quickly enough under a Sanders administration. But I thought a contested primary would be constructive. People who have turned HRC into a political idol may disagree, but that is fine.
I just want the Democratic nominee to win.
kd bart
Nebraska had a primary today that doesn’t award delegates. What gives? Because Hillary is winning it 60-40 right now with about 30% reporting.
Gin & Tonic
@ThresherK (GPad):
Funny true story. In the very heavily Italo-American and completely Democratic town of Johnston, RI about 25 or so years ago, where ballot placement was alphabetical, a candidate for Mayor legally changed his surname from Russo to aRusso. So, naturally, his competitor, also with the surname of Russo (but not related) legally changed his surname to aaRusso. In the end, aRusso won, and was stuck with that name for the remainder of his career.
The Lodger
@Baud: There were signature gatherers in Oregon trying to get him on the ballot. They didn’t succeed.
Steve in the ATL
@LAO: Quit watching hockey after the Blackhawks lost. I am, however, reading Ammon Bundy’s motion to dismiss. Holy shit I would be embarrassed to file that garbage. That’s so bad it should cost someone his bar card.
amk
@kd bart:
gopolitico
The candidates’ delegates to the Democratic National Convention were awarded in the state’s March 5 caucus.
Bernie Sanders won the caucuses by 15 percentage points, receiving 15 delegates to Clinton’s 10.
some crazy shite.
Zinsky
I love Bernie but the old goober needs to STFU!
LAO
@Steve in the ATL: you want a real treat. Check out the link in Roger Moore’s comment #91, in the thread below. Powerful crazy.
You don’t think adverse possession is a proper defense? Lol. ??
The Lodger
@Gin & Tonic: That’s funnier than the Battle of the Bob Caseys in Pennsylvania.
Miss Bianca
@Steve in the ATL:
It is a minor masterpiece of derp. This gem, for example:
(my emphasis)
It would be even funnier if some of this language didn’t sound like stuff that people I know have been saying. Like this next bit
could have come from an old friend of mine who really does think like this. Sad, really.
Steve in the ATL
@Miss Bianca: @LAO: And WTF–it’s a constitutional question whether the federal government can own more than 50% of the land in a state? The percentage section of the Constitution must be in the Skousen dicta because it sure ain’t in the real thing. It’s just one moronic assertion after another.
LAO
Fuck! God damn capitals!
@Steve in the ATL: they also ignore US v Oregon, 295 US 1 (1935), which quieted title of Malheur. It really breathtaking derp.
burnspbesq
@BillinGlendaleCA:
Sully is as much native-born as Cruz.
Morzer
@Miss Bianca:
Growing sideways and in the posterior region, possibly.
burnspbesq
I suspect that the judge finds Bundy’s filings less entertaining than we do.
Bailey
@kd bart:
Presumably NE is like Washington state in which the Democratic party uses the caucus to award delegates. WA still has Dems ostensibly on the primary ballot but it doesn’t count for anything. Because I participated in the caucus I didn’t bother to send in the primary ballot as well.
Bailey
@Tom Q:
Kind of some weird rationale here. Open or closed, he’s picking up a lot of support amongst people who a.) will transfer their support to HRC in the general and b.) people that were never going to vote for HRC to begin with, for a variety of reasons.
If the Dems could control the general election so that it was closed only to Dem voters, I’m sure HRC would take it. But since that’s not going to happen, trying to mind read the reasons people are voting for Sanders now is quite pointless.
I think it makes people feel better that HRC is a strong candidate or something though.
chopper
@Rolling Along:
yeah, we’re quaking in our boots at the prospect that someday you’ll actually be right about something. LOL
Mike in NC
@chopper: Rolling Along spent most of 2012 with his tongue firmly lodged up Willard’s asshole. How did that work out for that loser?
PigInZen
John, my dad grew up in Pitcairn and my mom in Mt. Lebanon. You may be a damn ‘eer, but I love Pittsburgh sports and I love that you love Pittsburgh sports. Full disclosure: I grew up in NorCal and live in Indy.
GO PENS!!!
smintheus
It was interesting how quickly the Caps deflated after they tied up the game. Up until that point it was all Washington, and almost immediately they went into a dazed mode. OT was all Pens and the Caps were just running around.
I had to wonder what would happen to the Caps in the playoffs once they ran into some adversity. They had faced almost nothing all season that involved real adversity, and sometimes making a practice of coming back off the mat is the most important side of preparing for making a deep run in the playoffs. The Caps came up a little great and a little small in this game, making that huge comeback from being down by 3 goals, but then not having the grit to carry it forward.
nax
@Rolling Along: Democrats should be getting nervous given that they thought smugly that this would be a blowout but it’s turning to be very competitive! Intriguing!
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max
[‘You need to work the funny harder, dude.’]
smintheus
@Gin & Tonic: Wasn’t the battle of the ARussos in Johnston during the ’70s? I remember it well and haven’t lived in RI since the early ’80s.
nax
@smintheus: It was interesting how quickly the Caps deflated after they tied up the game. Up until that point it was all Washington, and almost immediately they went into a dazed mode. OT was all Pens and the Caps were just running around.
I dunno. Man, the Pens were all over Holtby. Poor bastard faced like 5 shots in about 15 seconds. No Caps defense.
The Caps came up a little great and a little small in this game, making that huge comeback from being down by 3 goals, but then not having the grit to carry it forward.
It was like they thought they won already.
max
[‘Never gonna understand the Caps.’]
Villago Delenda Est
@Mike J: Oregon will probably go for Sanders, Merkley’s backing him, and Merkley is pretty popular.
I’m still going to vote for Hilz, because Bernie has blown it, IMHO.
Mike J
@Villago Delenda Est: I agree, he’ll probably take Oregon, regardless of the outlier poll today that had Hillary ahead. I just don’t think he’ll take it by 57%. I expected him to win WV tonight, but not by 52%, and he did win, but only by 15%
amk
@Villago Delenda Est:
fwiw, hillz is leading by 15% in OR in the latest poll.
Villago Delenda Est
@Rolling Along: Yes. Very close Hillary vs Drumpf. 55 Hillary, 44 Drumpf, 1 for No Labels.
magurakurin
@amk: I voted for Clinton in Oregon by mail over a month ago.
The Sanders campaign is now officially a sick joke. Bernie is prattling on about fighting for the last vote…the last vote from ratfuckers. 4 in 10 “Sanders voters” will vote for Trump in the general according to WV exit polls. Ha.
I guess Bernie is hoping that the ratfuckers will carry him over the top to a 70 point win in California…Dreaming.
whatever. He’s gonna do what he’s gonna do. Clinton will have to win with or without him…losing isn’t an option.
NR
@magurakurin:
Those numbers came from a tweet from Steve Kornacki. He provided no source for them.
mak
Need to pass on this nugget I heard from somebody (Sam Seder?) on MSNBC during Chris Hayes tonight: a third possibility for Sanders fine performance in W.Va. tonight.
1. Like many here, I had assumed that Trump voters, with a vote to waste, simply ratfucked for Bernie, inadvertently expressing their preferred candidate in November.
2. Through combo of racism and nihilism, voted for Bernie as protest “Bern it all to the ground” vote.
3. Genius observation heard for first time: Because Trump had, (for entirely cynical reasons, but nevermind that) expressed sympathy for Bernie and said he was a good guy (see reason 1, above), Trump supporters simply voted for Bernie because they took Trump’s “endorsement” at face value, and couldn’t be bothered to learn that Bernie’s governing philosophy is the polar opposite of theirs and Herr Trump’s.
Though I believe all three factors were at play, Occam’s Razor dictates that reason 3 was a significant factor in Bernie’s garbage time WV win.
mak
@Baud: The Democratic HAS always won among Democrats, including tonight, 49-48. Sanders has never won among Democrats, but only prevailed in primaries when Dem Leaning Indies emerge from the basement, or in Ron Paul dominated caucuses, or, like tonight, when ratfucking Rs and racist Whites chose the non-Hillary option.
BillinGlendaleCA
@burnspbesq: Sully had to take an exam and be sworn in as a citizen, Calgary Ted was granted citizenship at birth(by virtue of his mother).
Soylent Green
@Rolling Along: You know dude for a spoof troll, you’re pretty good. But for the last few days you’ve just been phoning it in. Try not to be so obvious.
NR
@mak: Or maybe, just maybe, WV voters thought Sanders was the better candidate.
Nah, couldn’t possibly be. It must be an evil Republican plot.
Aqualad08
@NR: Exits polls said 35% of his voters today are planing to vote for Trump in November, which more than covers his margin of victory. So you might not be to far off… :)
Morzer
@mak:
Ask yourself how many of those “racist” white Democrats voted for Clinton in 2008 in the primary – when she was delighted to pander for their votes with much talk of Obama being unable to win over the white working class voter – and then for McCain in the general. History may not please you, but it deserves deeper reflection than you’ve offered so far.
Uncle Cosmo
@Trolling Awrong fka RipeToRot: Your morning Ovaltine is in dire need one of these, boyo.