This fucking guy:
Jailed cattle rancher Cliven Bundy claims President Barack Obama, Nevada Sen. Harry Reid and others have stifled his constitutional rights as he sits in solitary confinement on charges stemming from a 2014 federal standoff, according to a lawsuit filed Tuesday.
Bundy, 70, is seeking $50 million for the “illegal, unconstitutional, intentional and malicious acts” of the defendants, and wants an indictment against him quashed and his immediate release from jail in Portland, Oregon.
Bundy added that he’s been in solitary since his arrest earlier this year — which constitutes “cruel and unusual punishment,” claims the suit, filed in U.S. District Court in Nevada.
In all honesty, I hope he loses every aspect of the case except for the solitary confinement bit. We use that entirely too much as a basic tool, and it’s obscene, cruel, and extremely harmful as well as being unnecessary in most cases.
cmorenc
So who does Clive want as a cell-mate if he’s released from solitary into the general jail population with all the peeps there for assaults and dealing heroin &cocaine? Careful what you wish for Clive, you might just win this part of your motion, even if likely nothing else.
Chyron HR
“Intentional”? Well, DUH.
Mike J
Harry Reid had more interesting stuff to say today and he wasn’t wasting time on these nimrods.
“Alan Grayson decided to be disruptive, to the embarrassment of his fellow colleagues. Senator Reid took the opportunity to express his low opinion of Congressman Grayson to his face and remind him that the reason Senator Reid has said that Grayson is under ethics investigation and appears to be running a Cayman Islands hedge fund from his Congressional office in order to line his own pockets is because these things are true, as established by seventy-four pages’ worth of evidence from the Congressional Ethics Committee,” said Kristen Orthman, a spokeswoman for Reid.”
dollared
@cmorenc: If you had asked Clive six months ago whether he thought Obama was right in trying to limit solitary confinement, what do you think he would have said?
petesh
Maybe they just can’t find a roommate willing to put up with him?
a hip hop artist from Idaho (fka Bella Q)
Word. To all of that.
Granted, I’ve been slacking on my Bundy following, but I haven’t seen documentation that he’s in fact in solitary confinement. Which obviously doesn’t mean that he isn’t, but an allegation in a complaint doesn’t mean that he is, either.
RareSanity
I’ve been reading this blog for a loooong time, and paired with the subject matter, that title is one of the best I’ve read.
Now, to clean up this coffee that got sprayed as I laughed.
Mnemosyne
Shorter Cliven Bundy: “The rules don’t apply to me — can’t you see I’m white?!?”
Since there are people who need to be isolated from others for their own protection (like their age, in Bundy’s case), there needs to be a way to do it that’s less punitive.
Mnemosyne
@RareSanity:
I hope Cranky John Cole never changes. He cracks me up every time.
LAO
I felt a disturbance in the force…a Bundy thread! Yes!
a hip hop artist from Idaho (fka Bella Q)
Also, as I asked below, will the serial child molester and famous NRA Board Member be visited by some folks from Treasury for his latest Facebook rant? “I got your guncontrol right here bitch.”
I can’t even.
ETA: Apologies if this was already discussed into the ground while I was
conqueringnearly successfully standing my ground against the thistle in my flower bed.@LAO: LOL
RareSanity
@Mnemosyne: You and me both. I mean I’m cantankerous in my own right, but it’s not as entertaining.
I especially like the times that he goes off on the commentariat as a whole. Reminds me of a Simpsons episode, but instead of “Give us hell Quimby!”, it’s “Give us hell Cole!”
the Conster, la Citoyenne
Could not care less what happens to this useless fuckstick. He’s way more trouble than he’s worth.
NCSteve
I wouldn’t assume he’s actually in solitary just because he says so. He makes mouth noises and scribbles that sound and look like English words, but often enough they have some entirely different meaning.
LAO
@NCSteve: I agree. He is a lying liar.
But that being said, I’m opposed to solitary confinement, especially when used by prisons for administrative purposes.
Calouste
@cmorenc: IIRC, quite a few of Bundy’s associates had drug convictions, maybe assault as well. Nothing really new for him I think.
The Thin Black Duke
The old fool doesn’t understand that he’s going to die in jail, does he?
LAO
@cmorenc:
That’s the amazing thing about this lawsuit — it isn’t a motion, its a separate civil suit claiming a violation of Cliven’s constitutional rights based on the insane conspiracy theory that Reid and Obama are trying to steal the Bundy Homestead — and that the district judge is actively assisting the Senate Minority Leader and the President of the United States of America, in their devious plot to steal his land. Welcome to crazy town.
Now, if Cliven was actual represented by a criminal defense attorney — perhaps a proper motion could be filed on his behalf, for his release from solitary confinement. (Of course, I’m not sure I believe he is being held in solitary confinement).
scav
So, now he wants Norway prison conditions while playing for the same team as Joe Arpaio. OK, Team Pink in the General Population.
Miss Bianca
@LAO: @a hip hop artist from Idaho (fka Bella Q): Ahh…we’re home!
I’ve been reading those documents that you’ve been so kind as to link to, LAO, and Lord…I just can’t keep hitting myself in the forehead anymore, I’m going to leave bruises…
ETA: That Nugent thing is disgusting, I’m not going to look further…but I’m ashamed to be from the same state as he.
Betty Cracker
I don’t think it’s right to use solitary confinement as a punishment either. However, this mooching piece of shit has demonstrated his ability to foment violence and mayhem by appealing to a network of fellow morons. If he is in fact in solitary, maybe that’s why — to prevent him from causing more trouble even while locked up.
Ella in New Mexico
People seriously need to read the actual legal complaint. It’s s frigging paranoid delusional schizophrenic’s dream of loose association and colorful prose.
LAO
@Miss Bianca: Don’t hurt yourself Miss B. It’s not worth it — the Bundy’s are not worth it. lol
Punchy
He’s a bit repetitive, no?
I think it’d be funny for the O-team to “settle” with him, saying that they’ll give him $1 mill for the solitary confinement goof, THEN turn right around and keep it, saying that’s what he owes them for the unpaid ranching fees.
Jeffro
OT but Catherine Rampell’s just RUBBING. IT. IN. about the “deep bench”:
washingtonpost.com/news/rampage/wp/2016/05/11/the-gops-embarrassment-of-riches-of-presidential-conte…
raven
Fuck him.
a hip hop artist from Idaho (fka Bella Q)
@LAO: I’m surprised that you’d characterize any kind of legal action by a Bundy as being based on a theory and/or allegations that exist outside what is generally agreed to be reality.
Actually, I lied. I’d worry about your health if you didn’t. Like you, I remain unconvinced of his alleged status within the population of the establishment where he’s currently a guest of the US government.
Frank Wilhoit
@NCSteve: Mencken says somewhere that the French neutered Christianity by translating the Bible into clear and comprehensible French, whereas the English of the King James Version was in an elite idiom even when it was new and has only grown less familiar over time, so that Christianity in the English-speaking lands is tantamount to applied Biblical exegesis.
Now go skim — very quickly — the largest representative corpus of Biblical exegesis you can conveniently access.
Now imagine those same techniques applied to other corpora of post-Renaissance English, such as — oh, I don’t know, the Constitution of the United States?
Growing up with American Christianity, with having single verses of the Bible unpacked for you at the rate of a page and a half or two pages each, then at some point setting down to read the thing for your own self and starting at Page 1 and giving up somewhere long before the New Testament…
…makes one an easy mark for the “annotated” Constitution of W. Cleon Skousen. When Bundy or any of the millions like him quote the “Constitution” and it is some bizarre gibberish that cannot be found either in the original text or in the body of law that has grown up around it since 1787, they are quoting Skousen, or perhaps some intermediate exegete. But that is what you have to do with the Bible, so surely the same techniques and the same criteria of auctoritas apply?
It’s all storytelling. The only question is, are the stories evocative?
Miss Bianca
@Ella in New Mexico: I’ve only been able to go thru’ it a few pages at a time. Then I have to stop. All I can think is, “I can’t believe the maroons who filed these things actually have law degrees.”
LAO
@a hip hop artist from Idaho (fka Bella Q): Because I can’t help myself, I just did an inmate locator search on the BOP website (I have to get a new hobby), and his name did not come up. I think he’s being housed in a local facility, pre-trial. Which, is not uncommon, for smaller federal districts.
Joel Hansen and Larry Klayman — really make all of us lawyers look bad. Do you think this is sanction-able? I think maybe, no?
Gin & Tonic
@LAO: How in the world do you junkies show up so quickly? Is there a bat signal or something?
Original Lee
@Miss Bianca: I am also amazed, plus I wonder how on earth they ever passed the bar.
LAO
@Gin & Tonic: As I referenced earlier — I felt a disturbance in the force. lol.
@a hip hop artist from Idaho (fka Bella Q): I believe the proper characterization is “bug fuck crazy”
Miss Bianca
@Original Lee: Also, too.
Mnemosyne
@Frank Wilhoit:
Turns out the Pope was right and people really do need the Bible interpreted for them by experts.
/recovering Catholic
Tenar Darell
I knew I remembered an article by Atul Gawande on solitary confinement.Hellhole It’s clearly torture. Basically the whole article summarizes how we need other people to be ourselves and function. Hell isn’t other people, hell is solitary confinement.
Roger Moore
@LAO:
The whole suit is based on a long-debunked theory. I assume that it’s mostly a classic sovereign citizen attempt to disqualify the judge in his case by involving her in a lawsuit; targeting the Reids and Obama is just icing on the cake.
singfoom
I don’t want him in solitary confinement, but man that complaint snippet really satisfies. The tears are delicious. His lawyer is awesome and by awesome I mean his prose is entertaining but not convincing. I’ll leave it to the actual lawyers to rip apart kleenex thick legal theory advanced in the complaint:
But this gem:
So, we’ve got federal storm troopers abusing cows and burying bulls in secret mass graves and assaulting and tazing family members.
If the mass graves are secret, how do they know about them? I mean, that’s straight out of this guys ass, right? Did the BLM ever harm their bulls?
ETA: Ok, quick google search says that 2 bulls died during the BLM operation. I don’t know how you get from 2 bulls to mass graves though.
Mike J
benw
I hope Trump doesn’t pick Cliven to be his VEEP; they’d be unbeatable. Please, Trump, don’t pick Cliven!
a hip hop artist from Idaho (fka Bella Q)
@LAO: It is, but given that May is mental health awareness month, I’m trying to be more careful with my language. Do as I ask y’all to do and all that.
LAO
@Roger Moore: Fair enough. I think that you are correct. I am, however, appalled that licensed attorneys are involved. Its one thing when a pro se litigant does it, and quite another when a lawyer does. I’m hoping for sanctions.
Betty Cracker
O/T — Elizabeth Warren is whaling on Donald Trump on Twitter again. It’s a thing of beauty!
LAO
@a hip hop artist from Idaho (fka Bella Q): Fair enough. But, I do think there is a clinical level of delusion here, no?
LAO
@Betty Cracker: Warren has evidently been appointed the key attack dog for the democrats this election — a brilliant move because she is made of awesome. Her twitter game is much better than I would have guessed.
Frankensteinbeck
This is right out of the Sovereign Citizen playbook. Literally so, I’ve read excerpts. File extraneous lawsuits to clog up the system, attempt to shame the judge and everyone involved, vent your wackadoodle paranoid resentments, dispute everyone as corrupt and unfit to judge you, and claim incredible amounts of money that you’re sure the government owes you for existing. And they honestly believe any one of these has a good chance to pay off, and maybe all of them, if they just make a big enough pain in the ass of themselves.
Iowa Old Lady
@Betty Cracker: I love the way he can’t stop himself from responding. He’s like a pavlovian dog.
A Ghost To Most
Careful, Cliven – they might remove you from protective custody, and put you in a cell with “the Negro”
Steve in the ATL
@Gin & Tonic: Dude, I’m at the airport and felt the thread go up!
smith
@A Ghost To Most: I see that one of Bundy’s most serious complaints against Obama is that he made fun of him for that statement at the WHCD.
Mnemosyne
@Iowa Old Lady:
Yep. That’s why I’m not worried about him vs Hillary. She knows how to pause long enough to let overconfident white dudes make fools of themselves.
gogol's wife
@Mike J:
I hope women start reacting to this in the correct way.
gogol's wife
@Betty Cracker:
Love it! This is what Twitter was invented for, I guess.
The Lodger
@Frank Wilhoit: I believe appropriate commentary on the Bundy lawsuit can be located in John 11:35.
Keith P.
At least Al Bundy had the comedic sense to countersue for “a jillion dollars”
Steeplejack (phone)
@Mnemosyne:
Maybe there should be a “petting zoo” section of prison.
ETA: Phrasing!
Mnemosyne
@LAO:
I am not the expert BellaQ is, but I still think these guys are cosplayers who have brought their game into their (boring) real lives. They think the court system is a game they can win.
MattF
Remember how Our Man Cliven was, once upon a time, made into a hero by Sean Hannity? Eventually, Sean had certain regrets about this. But we shouldn’t forget that FOX had the major role in making Bundy into a right-wing golden boy.
Iowa Old Lady
@Mnemosyne: They reject your reality and substitute their own.
scav
@gogol’s wife: I’d say the onus is on people in general — not wishing to restrict the correct use of neurons to the female half of the species.
LAO
@Mnemosyne: You could be right,
@MattF: It’s not just FOX, if you read Ammon Bundy’s motion to dismiss — he relies heavily on the actions of certain western (state) politicians to “normalize” his position on Federal Ownership of land.
Rolling Along
Now liberal magazines like The American Prospect are admitting that Trump’s “man card” could play with women! If Ben Sasse doesn’t get in, this may certainly be right.
This goes hand-in-hand with my suggestion that Trump “double down” on his tell-it-like-it-is branding rather than pivoting to be more “presidential”. More name calling, more taunts, more free media, more more more. If he takes his primary strategy and super-sizes it, it’s the key to victory, especially when it comes to exuding dangerous, unpredictable and dominating masculinity.
#HE-lection16
raven
Just ignore this fucking moron.
smith
The woman card may turn out to be the winner if Hillary continues to play it this way: a proposal for major new support for families to obtain quality child care. Men, of course, care about this, too, but I think it will have extra resonance as a policy proposed by a woman. Child care too often gets short shrift as a factor holding back middle and working class families, and really should be looked at as on par with health care as a social and economic problem desperately in need of solving.
Rolling Along
@smith:
Substituting a real daddy for “daddy government” once again. That’s how Trump will sell opposition to that proposal.
#HE-lection16
#Shrillary
#DadsNotGovernment
Shana
@Mnemosyne: OT, but did you hear Hamilton is coming to the Kennedy Center in DC for the 2017-18 season? Like every theater around the country though, they’re urging purchase of the 2016-17 season to guarantee tickets to the 2017-18 season. 2016-17 looks pretty good though: A View from the Bridge, Curious Incident of the Dog in the Nighttime, and a new production of Into the Woods (yea!).
Mnemosyne
@Rolling Along:
Please please please please please let Trump do this. Pretty please with sugar on top.
Rolling Along
@Mnemosyne:
What do you think of the Prospect article? These people are from YOUR side!
Cigars. Whiskey. Red meat.* Motorcycles. Guns. Heavy metal music. Dangerous masculinity–exude it!
*Literally and figuratively! Trumps favorite meal is “steak and potatoes”.
Mike J
Iowa Old Lady
@Mike J: Irony is dead.
Mnemosyne
@Shana:
We just bought season tickets to the Pantages Theatre here in LA to make sure we get “Hamilton” tickets. It’s a good season, too — in addition to “Hamilton,” we get:
Hedwig and the Angry Inch
The King and I
Finding Neverland
An American in Paris
Book of Mormon
(and The Bodyguard, but we may skip that one)
It was the chance to see “Book of Mormon” again that put us over the top.
Mai.naem.mobile
@cmorenc: I want Cliven to get a cellmate of a,shall we call it ‘a dark hue’ so that he can lecture said cellmate about ‘the negro.’
Mnemosyne
@Rolling Along:
Yes, I’m terrified. Please don’t throw me in that briar patch.
Botsplainer, Cryptofascist Tool of the Oppressor Class
Sooooo….
In in Cinque Terre. After a morning of hiking, a fun beer and wine lunch and a nap, we guzzled yet another bottle of wine with a meal after a couple of predinner Grey Goose martinis (we had to run down the mountain in a very romantic pouring rain), got some glorious prosciutto, melon and misto salume, followed by about a gallon of a glorious and unfinishable seafood stew of prawns, pulpo, monkfish and mussels. Followon with dessert wine, tiramisu, coffee and grappa. So now am sitting fairly undressed on my balcony about 200 feet above the sea, quarter moon visible.
I love it here and never want to come back. Ever.
The people here are awesome, the twenty-somethings beautiful, the food is great and in a great socialist failure, they pay attention to infrastructure.
Rolling Along
@Mnemosyne:
Did you read the article? What do you disagree with?
Masculinity is the way to go. For example, the convention food menu you should contain the highest fat, highest carb food possible. No “heart healthy” meats, no vegan options, just pure fatty cut beef and pork with potatoes larded up with the purest fattiest butter you can find. “steak, potatoes, chocolate shakes, whatever the hell I want” in the words of Trump.
The convention should be one, giant middle finger to conventional SJW/”progressive” wisdom that wishes to feminize lifestyle choices.
a hip hop artist from Idaho (fka Bella Q)
@LAO: We share the same hope, as you know.
Roger Moore
@Mnemosyne:
If they’re reading it in translation, they’re depending on an expert’s interpretation whether they admit it or not. If they think about it at all, “Biblical literalists” make up all kinds of extra-biblical explanations of why they don’t have to worry about the problem of accurate texts or misinterpretation, but it’s transparent nonsense.
Rolling Along
Trump on his diet. He needs to roll with this kind of style in the general. Masculine vs. feminine.
#HElection16
Chyron HR
@Rolling Along:
You can’t put hyphens or other punctuation in hashtags.
(I say this fully aware that the only response you’ll be able to formulate is crapping yourself like Ted Nugent and screaming “REMEMBER [insert Presidential election from 20 or more years ago]?!?!?”)
Mike in NC
@Rolling Along: Your genius political advice ought to earn you a suite in the Trump Tower. Too bad you’re living rent-free in your mother’s basement. Sad!
Weaselone
@Rolling Along:
SJWs also advise to avoid drinking methanol and antifreeze. Trump should serve those as well, along with some fugo prepared by a random guy off the street, because fuck knowledge, training, health and safety, right?
Rolling Along
@Mike in NC:
It’s a trait of liberals that they project their failures onto everyone else.
Actually, from where I’m sitting, I have a beautiful view of the Shenandoah Valley, a real “rolling green hills” view in a fully paid off home sitting on 15 acres. I’ve always been very good at ferreting out opportunities to make money, rather than waiting for the government to support me.
Meanwhile, liberals and their supporters don’t even have the decency to mooch of their parents–no, rather than their mother’s basement, they’re living in Daddy Government’s basement their whole life. Witness “life of Julia” from 2012.
singfoom
@Rolling Along:
Maybe they can serve freedom fries. But more to the point, the idea that “progressive” wisdom wants to feminize lifestyle choices is ridiculous on it’s head. And also derogatory towards our lady friends. But that’s par for the course. I think it’s perfect and goes nicely with Trumps misogyny. Something about the very idea seems very middle school to me, but I think that’s perfectly in line with both the platform and the candidate.
You guys go do you. It’ll be tremendous and great.
Mike in NC
Trump and that other asshole LePage are both one steak away from a coronary. Very sad!
Rolling Along
@Mike in NC:
You’ve been saying that about Rush for years. How’s that working out? Besides, Trump looks fine to me and according to his doctor he weighs 198 at 6’2. Perfectly acceptable BMI!
Mnemosyne
@Rolling Along:
No, you’re totally right. If there’s one thing women hate, it’s femininity. This is absolutely a winning tactic for Trump, and he needs to pursue it full force.
Miss Bianca
@Botsplainer, Cryptofascist Tool of the Oppressor Class: Envious.
jl
I may be a liberal but when I use butter, I always insist on the “purest fattiest butter”.
Is there a Trump butter? He should work that up and market it before the convention.
Mike in NC
@Rolling Along: You’ve told us before about your magnificent lifestyle, including the six-figure salary. Of course that includes the decimal point.
Rolling Along
@Mnemosyne:
Why was his TV show so popular with women?
Again I think Sasse does better than either of them with women, but Trump needs to be Trump if it’s just Hillary.
patroclus
Why is this troll disrupting every thread?
bemused
Paul Krugman jumped right on Trump asking Larry Kudlow and Stephen Moore to fix his tax plan…Send in the Clowns. How will it take for Trump groupies to figure out they are being scammed and Trump would go the same route as all the establishment Republicans they want Trump to annihilate?
scav
There’s a certain joy in seeing the epitome of conservative masculine masulinity being reduced to reactive flabby spheres shovelling food into their mouths in between insults coming the other direction. (Flabby because the first she-demon encourages exercise, bien sûr.). Intriguing also that they’re calling on abusive daddy is save them.
Botsplainer, Cryptofascist Tool of the Oppressor Class
@Miss Bianca:
I can’t even begin to describe this past week beyond the phrase “blown away”.
Italy has exceeded every expectation in every way. Just phenomenal, and they aren’t really even trying…
Prescott Cactus
Can you imagine if you had to sit in a cell with him for 23 hours a day as his cellie.
a hip hop artist from Idaho (fka Bella Q)
@Mnemosyne: They are true believers, to be sure. LAO represents criminal defendants who, oddly enough, acknowledge that the federal court system has jurisdiction over them, which* generally inures to their detriment.
*the jurisdiction, not her representation
Thus her point that when people who hold actual law licenses file this nonsense, sanctions are possible against those counsel, and in all probability, likely. (She says, with hope that it is true).
As for the pro se cosplayers, they really believe their nonsensical theories, because enough people passed around Kleon Skousen annotations of legal documents – like the Consitution – that they were taught this is correct. What actual lawyers have to say about, you know, legal things, is just a big conspiracy against the originalists.
jl
@scav: Trump probably has the woman vote. He gone from calling the women involved in the Bill Clinton adultery scandals and accusations too ugly to have standing to complain about anything in life, to defending them as martyrs against Hillary’s evil scheming. Trump has all the bases covered.
Mnemosyne
@Rolling Along:
No, you’re right, it’s a winning strategy. Trump needs to go full force on denigrating women throughout his campaign. There’s no way he can lose by doing that.
Soylent Green
@LAO:
And then sell it to “Communist China.” That’s the best part.
While we’re on the subject, take a look at the motion filed by Cliven’s boy Ammon to spring himself from all charges by nullifying 200 years of American case law.
It just gets better and better.
chopper
@Mike in NC:
the dude did win that one episode of ‘who wants to get groped by a thousandaire’.
Miss Bianca
@Botsplainer, Cryptofascist Tool of the Oppressor Class: No, they really don’t have to. Italy has the art of living *down*. Food, wine, coffee, afternoon siesta (do they still shut the shops for a couple hours in the afternoon?), and boy have the perfected the art of politics as sport. Or sport as politics. It’s making me wistful just thinking about it.
Mike J
@patroclus: Because people insist on replying to it.
It’s got Paul Anka’s guarantee
Villago Delenda Est
This asshole needs to die in prison.
smith
@jl:
Yep. That 70% unfavorable is just a bunch of women lying, as those bitchez do, amirite?
patroclus
The troll’s constant effort to disrupt every thread IS kind of like Bundy’s legal arguments. Bundy reminds me of Orly Taitz, who did get slapped down by the courts for making nonsensical arguments. The general rule for zealously representing one’s clients is, after advising what the best legal strategy would be, to make the arguments the client wants to make. But they have to be legitimate; they can’t just be made out of wholecloth. They have to have evidence and real legal theory and precedent underlying them, They can’t just be b.s. But it would take a sanctions motion to get them implemented and it might be the prosecution’s strategy just to let them be ridiculous because it makes it much more likely that they’ll be dismissed.
Redshift
@Rolling Along:
Did you read it, it did you just cut and paste the bits that sound like they they agree with you from some wingnut email chain?
Because it just says that women are a big part of the audience for misogynistic reality shows, and maybe a difference between phone polls and Internet polls means that Hillary is only somewhat ahead of Trump instead of massively ahead, and maybe there are women who like Trump’s racism more than they dislike his misogyny.
I’m not surprised you read that to mean “woo, being a macho asshole is a big winner!” After all, you were a big believer in “skewed polls” right up to the end.
Redshift
@Mike J:
Sorry, it was a moment of weakness. Won’t happen again.
Weaselone
@Rolling Along: Trump’s real problem is that he’s a fraud. He’s not even a beta, let alone an alpha. That’s why he’s created this elaborate and bizarre caricature of what he and his merry band of overcompensating posers think are the trappings of an alpha. If you want an example of an actual alpha, there’s one in the Whitehouse right now. Watch, listen and learn for once.
LAO
@Soylent Green: I know. It’s as duplicitous a filing, as I have ever seen in almost 20 years of federal practice. Adverse possession, who knew?
BillinGlendaleCA
@Gin & Tonic: All the junkies know when the pusher man’s in town.
scav
@smith: They’ve been universally brainwashed by the liberal feminizing agenda into hiding all they really want to do is be slapped around for not bringing the sammiches quick enough.
starscream
Why do you guys respond to Rolling Along? Do you really think you’re going to change his mind on anything? Every thread now gets cluttered up with either him, or someone responding to him.
Mnemosyne
@a hip hop artist from Idaho (fka Bella Q):
Right, but it all seems to be in the realm of personality disorders rather than organic brain disorders. I’m sure some of them have mental health issues — that last guy standing at Malheur clearly needed some serious psychiatric help — but for the most part, they’ve talked themselves into this stuff.
Ella in New Mexico
@Miss Bianca: Seriously! I am dumbfounded that an actual JD would write that stuff. But hey, at least he cited his sources: “Newsmax” and “Truth and Action Report”. :-D
The web of connections between Obama, Harry Reid, communist Chinese, Judge Navarro, Sheriff Joe Arpaio and finally–where else?–straight to Hilary Clinton really deserves a mocking cartoon montage flowchart on the Oatmeal.
Part of me wonders just how much Cliven understood he was signing to in that document. The other part of me wonders if he wrote most of it himself-the part that sounds like something out of the friggng Beverly Hillbillies.
Botsplainer, Cryptofascist Tool of the Oppressor Class
@Miss Bianca:
A lot of them still shut in the afternoon – about the same percentage as Mexico.
Soylent Green
@LAO: what’s funny is that I’m still sitting about 50 yards from Ammon as I write this.
Mnemosyne
@Redshift:
I will point out once again that the writer of that article makes a common category error that’s going to happen over and over with this election. That’s assuming that “woman voter” = “white woman.”
Soylent Green
@starscream: Rolling Along is a spoof troll, and doing a good job of it, because he gets everyone to bite.
Frank Wilhoit
@The Lodger: “Jesus wept” out of empathy with a dead man’s family members, not out of despair at intolerable foolishness. Doubtless there is someplace where Jesus laid a nice slow burn on somebody; I ‘ve not got time to follow that up right now, but it would be more a propos. Anybody?
Miss Bianca
@Ella in New Mexico: Did you notice how all the defendants are given first name and last name except for PBO? How he’s just “Defendant OBAMA”? Oh, my…why would that be, I wonder?
LAO
@Soylent Green: a bit surreal, no?
LAO
@a hip hop artist from Idaho (fka Bella Q):
I’m not sure that all my former clients would agree! But I appreciate your generosity. Lol.
Mnemosyne
@Frank Wilhoit:
I think the story of the adulteress qualifies, but isn’t as pithy. “Let he who is without sin cast the first stone” is a pretty sick burn.
nutella
At the last Bundy gang hearing in Oregon, one of defendants who is representing himself interrupted proceedings to demand that the judge provide them with her judging credentials, as he does at every hearing. This time, Ammon’s supposedly real lawyer Mike Arnold helpfully suggested that the judge could clear up this open question by ‘renewing her vows’.
She said no and for some reason did not kick Arnold out on his ass.
Gin & Tonic
@Botsplainer, Cryptofascist Tool of the Oppressor Class: You suck.
Gin & Tonic
@patroclus:
Because we let him.
Villago Delenda Est
@starscream: I’m like a cat…I like to bat the mouse around.
Villago Delenda Est
@Miss Bianca: It has absolutely nothing to do with him being the near sheriff, I’m sure.
Shana
@Mnemosyne: Yeah for you!
grandpa john
@patroclus: because some people simply don’t have the willpower to not take the bait
seaboogie
@Mike J: I’m going to miss Harry Reid.
bk
@Rolling Along: I’ll take a wild guess – you’re a virgin, right?
Ken
@patroclus:
Beats looking for a job.
jake the antisoshul soshulist
@Frank Wilhoit:
“It is easier for a camel to pass through the eye of a needle, than for a rich man to enter into the kingdom of heaven” re the rich young man.
Tim C.
@cmorenc: Excuse me… point of order! This is the Portland, OREGON jail. Multnomah County is the country Portland basically dominates. My point is however that here in Portland we prefer meth to cocaine.
Jack the Second
@bk: Woah, man, lay off the virgins. Trying to shame people for their consensual sexual activities (or lack thereof [activities, that is, not consent]) isn’t cool.
elftx
Late last month 5 of Odalis Sharp’s kids took off while she was taking a shower and had a neighbor take them to the Sheriff’s office. They are in state custody and she may be facing abuse charges.
Her daughter was in the car with Lavoy Finicum. This is one messed up family.
Michael Emry was at Malhuer and also considers himself an “embedded reporter”. He recently moved to Oregon and set up a website The Voice of Grant County dot com. Pretty sure he went there in support of the sheriff and to go after the reporter Les Zaitz who has done such a great job and whose family has been getting threats. Emry was arrested last Friday with a fully automatic .50-caliber machine gun and another firearm with the serial number wiped out.
There are a number of ‘Patriots’ running for office all over that state.
J R in WV
@Rolling Along:
This is a great menu. And then they all die of heart blockage !!
TriassicSands
I have to admit that making Cliven Bundy spend all day alone with only himself as company does seem like cruel and unusual punishment. I think they should bring Phyllis Schlafly in to keep him company. They could discuss how the Constitution is unconstitutional and deep subjects like that.