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Republicans in disarray!

The desire to stay informed is directly at odds with the need to not be constantly enraged.

Let me eat cake. The rest of you could stand to lose some weight, frankly.

Republicans: “Abortion is murder but you can take a bus to get one.” Easy peasy.

Just because you believe it, that does not make it true.

You know it’s bad when the Project 2025 people have to create training videos on “How To Be Normal”.

“Loving your country does not mean lying about its history.”

Motto for the House: Flip 5 and lose none.

The Supreme Court cannot be allowed to become the ultimate, unaccountable arbiter of everything.

You cannot shame the shameless.

Republicans: The threats are dire, but my tickets are non-refundable!

the 10% who apparently lack object permanence

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I like political parties that aren’t owned by foreign adversaries.

You passed on an opportunity to be offended? What are you even doing here?

I’ve spoken to my cat about this, but it doesn’t seem to do any good.

“When somebody takes the time to draw up a playbook, they’re gonna use it.”

Narcissists are always shocked to discover other people have agency.

A snarling mass of vitriolic jackals

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One of our three rescue dogs actually eats (peeled) orange segments… while the other two stare at him with their best ‘What is WRONG with you, old dude?’ expressions. Guy at the top looks like he’s at least part Australian Cattle Dog, a breed renowned for both their intelligence and their cheerfully propriety attitude towards anything that might be edible, so I’m sure he thinks it as good a joke as the rest of us, now that his mouth is no longer burning.

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Apart from making the best of life’s indignities, what’s on the agenda as we wrap up the weekend?

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  1. 1.

    greennotGreen

    I once had a dog who would sneeeeak up to the edge of the coffee table and steathily slide the discarded banana peel off, take it outside, and consume it. That dog is long gone, but my MinPin-Chihuahua mix does the same thing…except he just leaves the chewed up remains all over the floor.

  3. 3.

    bystander

    Bet eating orange peel was a once in a lifetime experience. When our dog was a teething puppy, he started chewing on the corner of a chair. We sprayed it with that bitter orange spray, and the next gnaw was the last. Although I hated that I had set him up for the worst gagface ever.

  6. 6.

    schrodinger's cat

    Had a guest from New Delhi for the weekend. Yesterday we grilled fish and fresh vegetables. Went for lunch to a Japanese place this afternoon, had a bento box for lunch and drank sake. A good time was had by all.

  8. 8.

    Major Major Major Major

    That dog is priceless.

    My cat is still following me around. This was my first long absence since we really bonded I guess.

    I wrote a blog post I’m very pleased with. Technology iz in ur kidz brainz, ruining ur civilization‽ ? ? ? ? ? ? #sorrynotsorry ? ?

    But otherwise, all of the books about ‘Internet brain’ or whatever they call it are baseless and stupid. For a fun exercise, the next time you see a book or article or whatever about how technology is changing us–particularly information technology–try swapping out ‘the Internet’ or ‘Snapchat’ or whatever the complaint is about with something older. Like books, radio, the telegraph, newspapers, or the post office.

  9. 9.

    ThresherK

    Red bell peppers, snow peas, and bits of tomato for Jazz, the calico-in-residence.

    Broccoli for my previous cat Madeline.

  10. 10.

    Run, Lillian!

    After a clean sweep of all seven delegates in the Virgin Islands and a few new super delegates to add to her total, Clinton is now 54 delegates away from securing the 2383 delegates she needs to become the presumptive nominee. This is according to Benchmark, and before Puerto Rico has been fully counted. That number will only shrink tonight.

    We are about 48 hours away from having our first female (presumptive) nominee for POTUS. Oh hell yes!

  15. 15.

    trollhattan

    Yoooge line for Hillary event; between a third and half are young. I’m not seeing Bernie siphoning off as many as implied.

  17. 17.

    gene108

    what’s on the agenda as we wrap up the weekend?

    Laundry, groceries, getting Rx filled, dishes…

    I am getting too old to survive a truly exciting life, unlike in my teens and 20’s, but this is a bit too boring…

    On EXCITING NEWS* I rehung blinds, after getting new Windows just before Memorial Day weekend. As I was heading out of town, and the caulk had not dried, I taped sheets over the Windows and did not have the time / energy to do it during the work week.

    * Got to use my drill and drill bits…qualifies as exciting…

  19. 19.

    redshirt

    @Baud: I hope she doesn’t clinch tonight TBH. I want Tuesday to be the day and I feel like the Clinton campaign has this planned out all week – clinch Tuesday with a Warren endorsement, Super Delegates all fall in line on Wednesday, then BHO vocally endorses her Thursday/Friday with a joint appearance somewhere.

  20. 20.

    Doug R

    @Major Major Major Major: Yup. Great argument to be made for writing stuff in books meant we didn’t have to memorize stuff. Online access meant we didn’t have to carry books around. Now search skillz are more important than memorizing minutia.

  24. 24.

    hovercraft

    @Baud:
    She’s up 70 to 30 with 3% reporting. But the count is going to be very slow. Apparently the entire process was a mess, they reduced polling places from 2000 to 435. Voters arriving at polling places were not on the rolls, had to fill out ballots by hand, the count will therefore be manual.

  26. 26.

    Gvg

    My cat love banana nut bread. I gave him some as a pesky kitten thinking that afterwards he would leave me alone. Result was a nut bread thief instead. He has never stopped demanding it. When I say he gets in my face, I mean his whiskers tickle.

  27. 27.

    gene108

    @redshirt:

    And when we get the internet capable implants we’ll never have to think again.

    That day cannot get here fast enough…I am so ready to go cyborg…

  29. 29.

    Doug R

    @redshirt: That’s how we’re getting telepathy-implants. Hope there’ll be an “opt-out” option-at least part-time.

  32. 32.

    Jeff Spender

    @Iowa Old Lady: They’re all so victimized. I mean, this is a party primary. What about the general election? What about states like Ohio purging their voter rolls?

    Do they not understand what the real game is?

  33. 33.

    skerry

    If you haven’t read this powerful statement from a rape survivor, you should.

    A former Stanford swimmer who sexually assaulted an unconscious woman was sentenced to six months in jail because a longer sentence would have “a severe impact on him,” according to a judge. At his sentencing Thursday, his victim read him a letter describing the “severe impact” the assault had on her.

  35. 35.

    Alison Rose

    Our dog Charlie (RIP) would eat almost anything you gave him, except onions or similar. One of his favorite foods, which he would beg for in the kitchen, was bell pepper. Weirdo.

    He also had a massive thing for any kind of paper product, like napkins and tissues (clean or not!), to the point where we wondered if he was part goat.

  36. 36.

    jharp

    Anyone planning to attend the Muhammad Ali procession and service in Louisville Friday?

    I’d really appreciate some suggestions from Louisvillians on how best to take it in. My son and I are going.

    Was going to walk across the Ohio River from Indiana. I see there is now a footbridge. Right?

    Thanks in advance.

  37. 37.

    Amir Khalid

    @Baud:
    Hillary could be a mere couple of dozen delegates shy of the nomination target at the close of this weekend. Then, there is no doubt she’ll win enough delegates on Tuesday to put her over the top. And that will be that; that’s when the final whistle blows. But Bernie persists in the Quixotic belief he can flip enough superdelegates with his feeble “electability” argument.

  39. 39.

    Iowa Old Lady

    @Jeff Spender: Last week, I visited a friend who hates Clinton and responded very positively to Sanders’ talk about income inequality. She’d been arguing with co-workers (mostly Rs) about how Sanders was right. She pays little attention to politics and hadn’t heard all the “rigged” carping. She wasn’t interested in that. I feel like Sanders has sacrificed the message people want and/or need to hear because his attention shifted to winning. I get that it’s hard to do anything if you lose, but it feels like now it’s all about him.

  40. 40.

    Jim, Foolish Literalist

    @Jeff Spender: he’s doubling down on the anti-Hillary stuff this weekend, the Speeches, the Foundation, he very Concerned that her vote for the Iraq War was “not an aberration”, not mentioning that his vote against it was. I’d bet twenty bucks (not the rent) that he brings up the Clenis late Monday night.

  41. 41.

    Run, Lillian!

    @skerry:

    It is incredibly powerful. I read it yesterday on TPM. That image of the two bicycles she drew and hung above her bed to watch over her as she sleeps (with the light on of course), chokes me up. It was an amazing piece and she wrote it for herself and to let victims everywhere she stood with them. Strong, strong woman.

  42. 42.

    Baud

    @Amir Khalid: It’s been clear she was going to get the nom for a while now. The northeast states really ended Sanders’s hopes for good.

  43. 43.

    Jeff Spender

    @Jim, Foolish Literalist: Yeah, I posted a very…unflattering history of Bernie’s support for war. I was asked for a video of a particular event. I actually found it. Never got a response.

    Bernie’s no angel when it comes to war. He gives angry speeches about it, but he’s voted for military intervention.

  46. 46.

    redshirt

    @Baud: Yeah, it’ll be a process of managing the Supers on when they declare.

    At this point I assume Clinton wants California to have a big turnout. Clinching tonight would mute that.

  50. 50.

    ? Martin

    @Iowa Old Lady: Unfortunately, other than bring attention to it, I don’t think Sanders has a clue how to actually address income inequality in a modern economy. So I don’t think he’s served the message well either.

    Any dipshit can complain about something. We should elect people that can actually present solutions to these problems.

  51. 51.

    Suzanne

    It is 115 degrees outside. Today has consisted of hiding inside with the lights off.

    I should be studying. Feh. I also need to go get groceries.

    Friday after work, we went to Comicon, which is always fun but oh Lord, SO HOT. Yesterday was also a heat advisory day, and we went to see Popstar, but we went to a 9pm showing. My mom went to the mall to get her hair cut, and her car battery gave it up in the heat, so Mr. Suzanne went out to give her a jumpstart and I went out to take her to pick the car up when the new battery was done. It was hot. Really fuckin’ hot.

    I hate summer.

  55. 55.

    Robert Sneddon

    @Alison Rose: Bimbo the Wonder Dog (female, blonde, pretty, intellectually challenged, very friendly) liked eating plastic wrappers from the rubbish bin, especially the sort used to wrap meat from the butcher’s shop. A day or so later Nature took its course. To a point.

    When we saw her scooting her butt over the gravel outside with a pained expression on her face we got out the pliers. She never ran away when we did the necessary but the howls were something else.

  56. 56.

    Anne Laurie

    @gene108:

    That day cannot get here fast enough…I am so ready to go cyborg…

    Imagine the annoyance of Microsoft trying to automatically ‘upgrade’ your brain.

    Or when your legacy company stops making the power cable you need for your implant…

  58. 58.

    Ben Cisco

    Getting ready to head back to work after two weeks off. I’m betting on a big ol stack of paperwork awaiting me. As for tonight, going to watch some hoop. Go Warriors!

  59. 59.

    Germy Shoemangler

    @Suzanne: I hate the heat and humidity. I also hate freezing cold.

    I’m really only content for a few weeks in the spring and autumn.

  63. 63.

    ? Martin

    @Baud: And me. :)

    That came off as far more critical of Sanders than he deserves. I’m not convinced that Clinton has any better ideas here.

  66. 66.

    Germy Shoemangler

    @Baud:

    I don’t really know what Bernie believes right now.

    Paul & Linda McCartney singing on “Ram”
    “Oh oh we beleeeve that we can’t be wrong. Oh oh we beleeeeeve that we can’t be wrong”

  71. 71.

    David ?Canadian Anchor Baby? Koch

    I can’t believe puerto ricans aren’t voting for Sanders, don’t they know how much he loves tacos?!?

  72. 72.

    geg6

    My dogs love apples and asparagus. I have no idea why.

    Getting ready to start my white pizza for dinner. Trying to decide which musician’s red blend to have with it: Dave Matthews’ Crush or the guy from Train’s Drops of Jupiter. Both are quite good and pretty affordable. Train guy’s wines run from about $10.99 to 14.99 and Matthews’ wines run from $12.99 to $18.99. The Crush red blend is usually $16.99 but it’s on sale for $12.99 this month. That’s here in PA where liquor tends to be expensive due to being a state monopoly. Probably even more affordable elsewhere.

  76. 76.

    David ?Canadian Anchor Baby? Koch

    So the twitter machine was telling me joy reid was doing a great job so I turned on the tee vee and I had to turn it off after 3 minutes of tweety spouting one illogical thing after another.

    the stoopid, it burns.

  78. 78.

    RandomMonster

    We had a cattle dog and he was so protein-driven he wouldn’t eat any vegetable unless it was mixed well with some meat. Super finiky.

  81. 81.

    Ruviana

    @greennotGreen: I had a kitteh who adored and coveted corn cobs. I’d give her my finished corn cob and she’d slink around the house gnawing on it and hissing at her comrades, which was funny because they did not care at all about her corn cob.

  83. 83.

    ? Martin

    What is WRONG with you, old dude?

    I have a corgi. Corgies are goats. He once ate five full 200 count vitamin E bottles. Ate most of the bottles, and ate all 1000 capsules. He had continuous oily diarrhea for about 4 days. He’s currently recovering from surgery from eating a plastic scrub brush that along with what we believe was a handful of empty polyprop sand bags he found at the neighbor’s house clogged up his intestinal system.

    He routinely eats lemons that have fallen off of our tree – eats the entire thing. Seeks them out. Your dogs are pikers.

  85. 85.

    David ?Canadian Anchor Baby? Koch

    I saw a clip of McConnell on some show today and he completely refused to utter Trump’s name. He kept referring to him as “the nominee”.

    Beetlejuice! Beetlejuice! Beetlejuice!

  86. 86.

    BillinGlendaleCA

    @Germy Shoemangler: We’ve ALWAYS counted superdelegates that have declared an intention. If Bernie wants them to change their minds, fine; but until they see the wisdom of a Bernie nomination, STFU Bernie with this shit.

  88. 88.

    Chyron HR

    Does Sanders actually understand that November 8 is for keeps? He doesn’t get to go on TV the next day and rant about the “contested electoral college” or refuse to withdraw from the race until Trump meets his demands.

  90. 90.

    redshirt

    Since we’re talking heat, can anyone link me a good house design for a desert climate that maximizes coolness? For example, I’m thinking of a house that’s partly underground and uses vents to move air with no power necessary.

    The Skywalker house in Star Wars is something I have in mind. If you recall, they had a stone looking igloo on the surface, but their house was actually like 20 feet below ground.

  92. 92.

    ? Martin

    @Robert Sneddon: We had a cat when I was a kid. Front declawed. Had a habit of getting balloons with a string attached and swallowing the string until it ran out. Cat would then freak out and run around the house with this balloon attached to its face, unable to pop it with its claws, bouncing off the walls and furniture because she couldn’t see where she was going. You’d have to grab the balloon and slowly pull the string from the cats digestive system while it hacked and panicked.

    That was the dumbest cat I ever met. Would routinely try to jump on things and miss and had terrible balance. Would constantly try to walk along some narrow ledge or railing and just flop right off the side. Thankfully there were no potential 2-story falls in the house.

  94. 94.

    David ?Canadian Anchor Baby? Koch

    [Cenk] Uygur says that it is journalistically unethical to include the votes of superdelegates to put Clinton over the top, because those delegate only cast their votes at the convention. The convention is more than a month from now, and Uygur says that the possibility of Clinton being indicted over her email server still exists.

    Now who can argue with that.

    At least there’s one honest journalist.

  95. 95.

    ? Martin

    @BillinGlendaleCA: And over the 2008 election, Obama convinced many superdelegates to switch from Clinton to him. By this point he had more than she did.

    That the superdelegates aren’t backing her isn’t a reflection of the party rules, but of his inability to convince superdelegates to switch.

  101. 101.

    trollhattan

    @redshirt:
    Check out hay bale houses. Super-insulated and other than the thick walls, look conventional. Hogans are an option if you like the unusual layout.

  102. 102.

    Run, Lillian!

    Polls show that millennials skew pretty liberal. It will be a while before we can view the long term effects of the Bernie campaign, but if, after capturing the youth vote, he manages to turn them away from the democratic party with all of his claims of rigged elections and corruption, I will hold one serious grudge against the man. I’ll be sending money to Al Giordiano to run against him and signing petitions to get his committee assignments rescinded.

    If, however, he pulls his shit together in the next few weeks and starts attacking trump, suspends his campaign after D.C. and gives one hell of a speech at the convention to rally his troops to Hilary, then all is forgiven. Hey, I forgave Hilary after 2008 and I swore up and down I never would. And here I am all excited about her now. The difference between one’s twenties and one’s thirties I guess: the long view.

  105. 105.

    ThresherK

    @Robert Sneddon: We had a lab mix who swallowed whole the little waxish-paper things that tartar sauce came in. Fortunately it was never a thing that bothered his system; we wondered if he was actually digesting the wax paper.

  106. 106.

    Amir Khalid

    @Germy Shoemangler:
    Silly Cenk. In fact, superdelegates do not switch their votes all the time, as he claims — individual SDs do, but typically not in the numbers Bernie needs to snatch the nomination from the jaws of Hillary. That only ever happened once,in 2008, because Obama was winning the delegate count. For the three decades the Democratic party has had SDs, they have never contradicted the will of the voters as expressed in the pledged delegate tally/popular vote.

  107. 107.

    Gimlet

    Right-wingers very agitated this weekend.

    Gateway pundit outraged that the Trump supporters were violently attacked, Power Line defends Trump attack on Judge, and Ginni Thomas fears all is lost as leftists create an intolerant, chaotic America.

    And to top it off, the man repeatedly named as behind all this, George Soros, is late again with my check this month.

  108. 108.

    SiubhanDuinne

    @Germy Shoemangler:

    I’m with you. I’d love to live someplace where about 10-1/2 months a year consists of the transitional seasons. I can put up with three weeks of summer and three weeks of winter, but that’s about it.

  114. 114.

    HinTN

    @redshirt: Evaporative cooling (aka swamp cooler): Use a chimney effect to move air through a continuously moistened medium. Thick walls also help.

  118. 118.

    redshirt

    @trollhattan: I’m not asking for any practical reasons. I just like to think about different ways of using passive heating/cooling. A desert environment can be challenging in this regard with traditional house designs.

    Like a hogan house. I’d figure the folks who lived in the desert for thousands of years before electricity would figure out some neat ways of staying cool.

  119. 119.

    BillinGlendaleCA

    @Baud:

    But I have a great concession speech all ready to go. Very moving.

    I see you’ve taken my nurse’s advice, prunes do keep things moving.

  120. 120.

    redshirt

    @HinTN: That’s why I mentioned the vents. You’d have low vents that draw in relatively cooler air, and an escape vent (or chimney) at the top of the house letting hotter air out. The two together will create a non-powered cooling system.

    I can’t recall the name of it – someone help! – but I recall reading about an Arab design for their marketplaces that features a huge tent like structure with a vent at the top so it not only provides shade, but creates a wind by drawing up cooler air to be ejected via the hole at the top of the structure.

  122. 122.

    David ?Canadian Anchor Baby? Koch

    I wish one of these dumb reporters would ask Sanders what is his plan for winning SDs, just to see the deer-in-the-headlines look on his face.

    He’s never thought this through.

  124. 124.

    Tom

    Since it’s getting summery around these parts, I decided it was time to start doing salads again. Tonight was baby spinach, sliced almonds, dried cranberries, sliced hard-boiled eggs and strawberry poppyseed vinaigrette.
    Our littlest cat loves salad so when she hears me get out the fixings she jumps on the kitchen counter to see if she can swipe some. I give her a leaf to chew on, otherwise she digs through the bowl and drools all over things. (Of course, then we had to keep both kitties from the baked chicken.

    Apart from that, I’ve got some papers to grade, a high-level course design document to draft and a lecture to prep.

    As a bonus, I got the pie filter working on Safari!

  125. 125.

    BillinGlendaleCA

    @redshirt: Ah, that might help a little, but it will still be pretty hot. The most energy efficient method would be a solar powered geo-thermal heat pump. As someone who’s grown up in a hot climate, even moving hot air is still hot air.

  128. 128.

    redshirt

    @BillinGlendaleCA: Yeah, solar powered geo-thermal is ultimately the best answer. Drill a well 500 feet down, circulate a closed loop liquid, and pump the resulting 55 degree air into the house. Would only require a pump to circulate the liquid and fans to move the air. Very cheap compared to traditional AC.

    So when I can’t sleep I think of designs like this. And I’ve been thinking lately about a multi-family structure that starts 4 stories below ground, has at least 6 solar powered geo-thermal wells, and a greenhouse that occupies the entirety of the South/West corners of the structure.

    Keeping the greenhouse cool in a desert environment seems the most pressing issue. Also, of course, water.

  129. 129.

    David ?Canadian Anchor Baby? Koch

    Uh-Oh. This is dice-y – Clinton and Sanders supporters are clashing in Puerto Rico (video)

  130. 130.

    Run, Lillian!

    CNN reporting that the Clinton campaign is asking Super delegates to wait to declare until Tuesday so they won’t put her over the top until NJ.

    Party in Brooklyn, peeps!

  131. 131.

    BillinGlendaleCA

    A good column about the busboy who held up RFK’s head after he was shot 48 years ago today.

    ETA: Steve Lopez’s columns are about the only good thing left in the LA Times.

  132. 132.

    greennotGreen

    @SiubhanDuinne: Various mid-elevations of the Andes in Ecuador. Cuenca is lovely, but I really liked a small town called Sig-Sig. Gorgeous country. Hope they don’t completely denude it in search of profit.

  133. 133.

    Nelle

    Here was my real surprise of the weekend – maybe of the campaign season. I was down at my family reunion – think Christian, right-wing fundamentalists, but not evil. Good on the micro scale and otherwise living in their little bubbles. I was aiming to influence a few of them to sit this election out. But my niece, wife of a Baptist minister, told me that she may go for Clinton. Not so much against Trump (whom she doesn’t like) but for the work that Clinton has done for women and children around the globe, particularly in the Democratic Republic of Congo (part of our family is Congolese). She said that one of her conservative Christian friends is influencing a lot of younger, conservative Christian women to give Clinton real consideration because of her reliable support for women and children around the world. I was rather gobsmacked as I never thought my niece would do anything but pull the Republican lever. She said she doesn’t know much about politics and admits that she lives in a bubble, but that this woman was really getting her to think about things differently. (Thanks, Trump!! You are helping move the discussion from the usual topics for these women.)

  134. 134.

    hovercraft

    @Germy Shoemangler:
    I thought that facts having a liberal bias was a republican thing. Now we have the Bernistas buying into reporting facts as being biased ? Well I guess if you live long enough you see it all.

  139. 139.

    David ?Canadian Anchor Baby? Koch

    @hovercraft: Uygur was a long time Republican and only left after his party declared open season on moooslims.

    Sanders has never – ever been a Democrat, he even refused to vote for LBJ. Nor has he ever been a liberal, instead he’s a populist/marxist.

    They can change their top coat, but the undercoating remains the same.

  140. 140.

    MoxieM

    Hilarious dog face. A couple of my Newfies liked to “eat” clementines…. that is: steal them off the counter, punch holes with teeth, gum them over, and leave them lying around. Love my dogs!

  143. 143.

    lamh36

    Evening peeps.

    Back from dropping Maddie off.

    Now enjoying having On Demand again. Catching up on Good Witch series.

  144. 144.

    Shell

    Gotta call the plumber tomorrow. Got a wobbly toilet and it needs to be recaulked before it starts to leak.

  145. 145.

    Brachiator

    @Doug R:

    Now search skillz are more important than memorizing minutia.

    And yet the greatest search skill of some folks is, “I don’t want to research this, can someone give me the answer?”

  146. 146.

    hovercraft

    @Run, Lillian!:
    She’s having her election night victory event in Brooklyn to celebrate with her team. Idiots on msnbc want to know if that signifies that she thinks she’s going to lose CA. What part of 2338 don’t they get. If she wins she wins. They’ve questioned whether she can win at all for weeks, now that she’s going to win Tuesday, it’s not going to be the way they like maybe. She Won Deal With It.

  147. 147.

    Jim, Foolish Literalist

    @redshirt: @? Martin: I’ve been wondering if they were worried about depressing her turn out with too much talk about winning in CA. My fingers are crossed

  149. 149.

    Elie

    Ahhh — this is sad for Bernie. HE is responsible for the hard time his followers are having. Do you think he is being paid to ratfuck – like has some R fucker promised to pay off his debt? What on earth can he get out of this but misery — failure to win nomination and lots of long Democratic memories that will result in sharpened axes on his career and lots of other bad things. He is also poisoning the well for a better socialist progressive candidates to enter — folks will remember this. And btw, his minions are even talking about fucking up local Democratic parties (at least up here in WA).. What gives… this just doesn’t smell right to me….

  154. 154.

    ? Martin

    @Elie:

    And btw, his minions are even talking about fucking up local Democratic parties (at least up here in WA).. What gives… this just doesn’t smell right to me….

    I think he’s picked up a lot of the Ron Paul people in certain states. They were not loyal Republicans and they do not make good Democrats.

  155. 155.

    redshirt

    @BillinGlendaleCA: Makes sense then. Thanks!

    I still have bitter memories of heading down to Kerry’s 2004 victory celebration in Copley Square Boston only to be rather disappointed. Dark times.

  156. 156.

    Jeff Spender

    @? Martin: We have a problem with libertaians and Paulites running as Dems in our area. Almost blew up our county party some years ago, but we’ve rebuilt.

  157. 157.

    Run, Lillian!

    @hovercraft:

    Well, as a woman she has to work twice as hard to be taken seriously so she’ll need twice as many delegates. So once she passes 4,676 she can officially be declared the presumptive nominee! Thankfully the celebrations on Tuesday will finally crowd out that nonsense- NJ clinches it for sure and hopefully renders those clowns silent.

  158. 158.

    JPL

    @redshirt: Gosh.. that was a terrible time in history. Kerry was the first time that I maxed out on my donation, not because I’m wealthy, but because I could see where Bush was bringing us.

  159. 159.

    JPL

    I am so sick of Bernie talking about pledged delegates. The democratic party did not have to let him run as a democrat and now to whine about the rules is ridiculous. He’s a mini trump.

  160. 160.

    Miss Bianca

    @Nelle: this makes me smile. I am so glad that this argument in favor of HRC is starting to get some traction in some surprising places. I get so PO’d sometimes when certain folks around here start their “but what has Hillary Clinton ever done for the working class” schtick. It’s as tho’ advocacy for and policies aimed at helping women and children somehow don’t have anything to do with working class concerns!

  161. 161.

    David ?Canadian Anchor Baby? Koch

    Benchmark Politics ‏@benchmarkpol 5m5 minutes ago

    CNN’s John King reporting that Clinton has ~40 superdelegates ready to pledge but are being urged to wait until Tuesday night.

    8 retweets 15 likes

  163. 163.

    trollhattan

    Still not near the event and the line behind is at least half a mile. Moving, at least.

  164. 164.

    Omnes Omnibus

    @Miss Bianca:

    It’s as tho’ advocacy for and policies aimed at helping women and children somehow don’t have anything to do with working class concerns!

    Shouldn’t you be making someone a sandwich or something?

  165. 165.

    dmsilev

    @David ?Canadian Anchor Baby? Koch: Not surprising. Puerto Rico will put her within a few dozen of 2383, and I imagine that the campaign would prefer to go over the top via pledged delegates rather than from the endorsement of some random DNC member.

  167. 167.

    SiubhanDuinne

    @greennotGreen:

    I have never been to South America — something I’d like to remedy before I’m too much older. Thanks for the suggestions; I promise I won’t breathe it to a soul (we wouldn’t want the place to be overrun).

  169. 169.

    Jeff Spender

    @Elie: Well, I have to deal with them. I’m running for the state legislature (no primary challenger) but they’re in my district being obnoxious. I decided to pick a side and endorse people I thought were actually sane.

  174. 174.

    SiubhanDuinne

    @Run, Lillian!:

    Well, as a woman she has to work twice as hard to be taken seriously so she’ll need twice as many delegates.

    Backwards, and in high heels.

  175. 175.

    Mike in NC

    @redshirt: Well, at least you weren’t one of the fat cats who flew into Boston in their private jets to congratulate President Rmoney on his stunning victory in 2012.

  178. 178.

    redshirt

    @SiubhanDuinne: Me either. It and Antarctica are the only continents I’ve not visited. Though it seems unlikely I’ll ever get to Antarctica.

    I’ve seriously been thinking of doing an astronomy themed vacation in Chile. So many awesome telescopes there.

  179. 179.

    Bobby Thomson

    @dmsilev: She won’t go over the top with just pledged delegates. It’s not possible. What they want to avoid is the optics of superdelegates deciding the nomination before Tuesday’s primaries. However, once New Jersey is called she’ll have a majority of pledged delegates.

  181. 181.

    Jeff Spender

    @Baud: Yes. Ran in 2014 against a tea party darling and lost by 6500 votes. Still, for my first ever foray into running a campaign, 11,600 votes isn’t bad.

    I actually just got my survey from the NRA and those dorks are getting a file full of snark back.

  182. 182.

    redshirt

    @Mike in NC: Some of the best schadenfreude ever was that election night. When R-Money cancelled all his workers credit cards that night so they were forced to fend for themselves…. delish. And no concession speech prepared? Delightful.

  185. 185.

    Baud

    @Jeff Spender: Hopefully, this presidential election year will do the trick. That’s excellent. Feel free to tell everyone that Baud! endorses you.

  186. 186.

    hovercraft

    msnbc is reporting that it was the Sanders campaign that requested a reduction in the number of primary sites in PR from 1100 to 432, because the results are counted by hand and they did not have enough volunteers to man 1100 sites.

  187. 187.

    Jeffro

    @Amir Khalid:

    that’s when the final whistle blows. But Bernie persists in the Quixotic belief he can flip enough superdelegates with his feeble “electability” argument.

    I think Bernie & Co are in for quite a surprise when very shortly after the CA results come in, Obama, Biden, Warren, and assorted other Dems all speak up loudly and publicly, thanking Bernie for running a hard-fought race and congratulating the first ever female nominee for POTUS on her historic nomination by the Democratic Party. I’m sure someone’s going to be reaching out to him tomorrow to let him know it’s coming and that he can react however he wishes, but…”history will be watching”.

    Congratulations Secretary Clinton!
    Now let’s go take the GOP to the woodshed twice-daily through Election Day!!

  189. 189.

    SiubhanDuinne

    @redshirt:

    Somehow it seems a bit counterintuitive that Ecuador (Equator) would offer a temperate climate. I suppose that’s the mid-level altitude that accounts for some moderation in temperature.

  190. 190.

    Run, Lillian!

    Just heard on kos that Obama is going to be in NYC on Tuesday- don’t know why yet but could it be an appearance and an endorsement? This is going to be a huge week indeed.

  192. 192.

    Anne Laurie

    @Brachiator:

    And yet the greatest search skill of some folks is, “I don’t want to research this, can someone give me the answer?”

    Which works, often enough for most lazy peoples’ needs! Social media crowdsourcing can be a very useful search tool, if your most pressing research needs don’t go beyond “What time is the Superbowl?” or “Which day is recycling pickup in Neighborhood X?”

  193. 193.

    dmsilev

    @Bobby Thomson: Sorry, I was unclear. I meant that they would prefer that delegate #2383 be a pledged delegate, not a super.

    She won’t hit 2026, a majority of all pledged delegates, until California starts reporting. Puerto Rico is still (slowly) counting, so we don’t yet have a good delegate number, but say 210ish additional pledged needed to reach 2026. NJ has 126, so even a clean sweep (unlikely) wouldn’t be enough.

  194. 194.

    Elie

    @Jeff Spender:

    Ugh. Our county has weak Democratic leadership (read old and weary), but I hesitate to rush in a bunch of young “independents” who do not have any stated values or mission that may or may not align with progressives. These are very “interesting times”…. I plan to show up at our endorsement meeting end of June with a plan to disrupt if necessary… I don’t know who these people are or what they stand for. Everyone there should know…

  195. 195.

    dmsilev

    @hovercraft: So much for this weekend’s Sanders Conspiracy Theory, which stated that the Evil Clinton Campaign was driving down turnout in PR Because Reasons.

  196. 196.

    Jim, Foolish Literalist

    @Miss Bianca: I get so PO’d sometimes when certain folks around here start their “but what has Hillary Clinton ever done for the working class” schtick. It’s as tho’ advocacy for and policies aimed at helping women and children somehow don’t have anything to do with working class concerns!

    and that health care, her signature issue since Arkansas, is irrelevant to the question of economic equality. IIRC medical expenses are the biggest cause of personal bankruptcies.

    and a $12/hr minimum wage is proof of corporate whoredom

  198. 198.

    D58826

    @Bobby Thomson: Yes but Bernie has now changed the rules. She has to have 2/3rds of the pledged delegates in order to win.

    MSNBC is reporting that the reason there are only 300 polling places in PR today is because Bernie asked that the number of polling sites be reduced. Seems they only had enough volunteers to staff 300. I am truly impressed at the power of the Hillary machine. They now can make it impossible for Bernie to get volunteers.

  199. 199.

    Run, Lillian!

    Also heard on kos (and can I say thank FSM that site isn’t Bernie central anymore, those Clinton supporters dug in and waited out the storm and the site is sane again-PHEW):

    June 7, 2016 is the day she will certainly clinch the nomination.
    June 7, 2008 is the day she suspended her campaign and rallied for Obama.

    Holy shit!!! This is right, right?

  200. 200.

    WaterGirl

    @Baud:

    But enough about Cole.

    Don’t make me pull this car over! You apologize to your brother Cole right this minute.

  201. 201.

    Anne Laurie

    @? Martin:

    I think he’s picked up a lot of the Ron Paul people in certain states. They were not loyal Republicans and they do not make good Democrats.

    Bingo. Anybody who holds Ron Paul (or Ralph Nader) as their political icon isn’t a dependable member of any party — they’re perennial malcontents looking for a new grievance to nurse.

  202. 202.

    grandpa john

    @? Martin: for all the nervous types out there to sooth yourself just refer to Sam Wang or Nate’s page . Forget all the hype on these national horse race polls that the bloviating assholes of the MSM are constantly feeding you, the polls that matt are the state polls and number of EV’s represented. currently from Sam Wang

    Clinton 321 Trump 217

    Now does every one feel better?

  203. 203.

    David ?Canadian Anchor Baby? Koch

    GOS has this hilarious post of Uygur being OUTRAGED that Clinton didn’t concede to Obama after the last primary in 2008.

    It’s over. The moment we’ve been waiting for. The second story is Hillary Clinton will not go away. She will not concede. She did not concede tonight. It was genuinely shocking to me that she didn’t.

    Priceless.

  204. 204.

    Jeffro

    @David ?Canadian Anchor Baby? Koch:

    I wish one of these dumb reporters would ask Sanders what is his plan for winning SDs, just to see the deer-in-the-headlines look on his face.

    He’s never thought this through.

    I thought his plan for winning over the super delegates was that even though Clinton has won a majority of Dem voters, has strong connections throughout the various Dem constituencies, and is already leading Trump in all national polls not conducted by Rasmussen, is that in polls conducted by Rasmussen, he beats Trump by a bigger margin.

    By that logic, Obama should be petitioning the super delegates to help him overturn the 22nd amendment and run again, as he also would poll well against Trump right now.

  205. 205.

    WaterGirl

    @Ben Cisco: You were visiting with your dad, right? I hope it was a good visit, though I’m sure it was hard. I really admire your spunk. Maybe not the right word, but I can’t seem to find a better one. You are one tough cookie with a good heart.

  210. 210.

    dmsilev

    @Jeffro: I’d love to be a fly on the wall when Sanders places a call to let’s say Joe Biden and lobbies for his SD vote.

  212. 212.

    Schlemazel Khan

    @Alison Rose:
    My cranky old cat would try anything too. She loved popcorn and would do tricks for frozen peas. I have never seen anything like it. We had to buy a covered butter dish and always keep bread in a cabinet because she would eat half a stick of butter if she could and tore into bread pretty well.

  214. 214.

    magurakurin

    @SiubhanDuinne: parts of Ecuador are 20,000 feet high. The peaks are covered in glaciers. Quito is very high, some parts of the city are 10,000 feet. It is quite cold in the early morning, usually in the 40’s. Some of the towns, like Tumbaco are at the perfect altitude and have a climate of perpetual spring. The coast though is very hot. I lived in Quito in 1996/97.

  215. 215.

    Jim, Foolish Literalist

    saac Chotiner ‏@ IChotiner 3h3 hours ago
    It’s weird that Sanders camp keeps complaining about media when media paying endless attention to California and none to New Jersey

    In keeping with the tradition of Sanders deciding which states count: West Virginia, yes, Virginia, no. Michigan, yes, Ohio, no. Utah, yes, Arizona, no. Florida, Illinois, New Jersey, Pennsylvania, South Carolina, New York…. no. New Jersey, no, California… ‘we’ll see’

  216. 216.

    WaterGirl

    @hovercraft: I bet that made Bernie popular there! It’s so sad that Bernie has lost the plot. If he hadn’t, we would all be celebrating that he did so damn well.

  217. 217.

    SiubhanDuinne

    @David ?Canadian Anchor Baby? Koch:

    Oh LOL, that is hilarious. Too perfect!

    (Am really hoping that most of the Bernistas on my FB will revert to their normal common sense in a week or so. I don’t mind giving them a few days after Tuesday June 7 to do their grieving, but by next weekend they’d better be prepared to support Hillary through the summer and autumn.)

  218. 218.

    rikyrah

    About all this GOP supposed handwringing about Trump.

    it’s amusing to me. As a reporter, I would ask every GOP officeholder that came into my sight TWO questions:

    What POLICY positions of Donald Trump’s do you disagree with…Congressman, Senator, Governor?

    What POLICY positions that he holds that you say are NOT Republican positions.

    Wait for the silence…

    Well then, Congressman, Senator, Governor…if you have NO POLICY differences between you and Donald Trump…then why have any hesitation in supporting him?

    Only thing that would come out of my mouth as a reporter.

    THEY HAVE NO POLICY POSITION DIFFERENCES WITH TRUMP.

    THEY ARE ONLY MAD THAT HE WON’T SPEAK IN FRANK LUNTZ-APPROVED DOGWHISTLES TO HIDE THOSE POSITIONS.

  221. 221.

    Schlemazel Khan

    @? Martin:
    This was my biggest disappointment with Sanders. That interview tore it for me because he had no clue, not even a hint of what to do to fix what he sees as the biggest problem in the nation. When you have had one main target for several years you should at least be able to offer some suggestions for remediation. My fear is that he actually hurt his cause, particularly with his mindless attacks of the Democratic Party.

  223. 223.

    Elie

    @Schlemazel Khan:

    Forgit that Tuesday thing… She should run up the score whenever she gets it… No holding back or waiting… lets do it! Your desire for staging is nice but not essential. A crushing victory with little oxygen left for any doubts or what-ifs as soon as possible is what I want. We can always have a 1, 2 and 3rd tsunami wave — just like in a real life tsunami.

  226. 226.

    Bobby Thomson

    @dmsilev:

    I meant that they would prefer that delegate #2383 be a pledged delegate, not a super.

    That will require some fancy footwork, since she can’t hit 2383 without more of the outstanding superdelegates.

  229. 229.

    Jim, Foolish Literalist

    Tweety just compared Trump to David Letterman. In his talent for finding the devastating one-liner.

  236. 236.

    David ?Canadian Anchor Baby? Koch

    Fin Gomez ‏@finnygo 3h3 hours ago

    #BillClinton to @BernieSanders hecklers: “If I were them I’d be screaming too bc they know they will be toast by election day.”

    67 retweets 57 likes

    BOOM goes the dynamite!

  238. 238.

    geg6

    @Elie:

    Agreed. Never hold back. However, and it’s a big one, she may be holding fire so as to help out Dems in that crazy jungle primary out in CA.

  239. 239.

    David ?Canadian Anchor Baby? Koch

    @Baud:

    They say the birds no longer fly to him like they once did.

    Now his campaign sleeps with the fishes.

  240. 240.

    Botsplainer, Cryptofascist Tool of the Oppressor Class

    @jharp:

    I’m planning on going – my office is less than 100 yards from the Ali Center, and I have easy access to Yum.

    If you use the walking bridge from Indiana, the end is about a half mile from Yum, so build in the extra walking time. You’ll be smart to come across that way – there’s significant construction, and downtown is a mess on even the best day.

  241. 241.

    Jeffro

    @grandpa john:

    Now does every one feel better?

    Better – yes
    Good – let’s get to 538-to-0, and then I’ll feel good about this race.
    Still hard to believe that a large number of people/states/EVs/whatever could possibly be won by such a clown…makes me nervous for next time (or even this time, should Herr Drumpf implode) when the GOP runs a slightly-less-insane/offensive version and looks ‘moderate’ as a result

  242. 242.

    hovercraft

    The polls closed at 3 pm EST and they are only up to 15 % in
    I don’t speak spanish, but you get the gist

    Resultados Isla
    Candidato Votos Porciento
    HILLARY CLINTON 10,947 65.02%
    BERNIE SANDERS 5,775 34.30%
    “ROCKY” ROQUE DE LA FUENTE 79 0.47%
    *OTROS 36 0.21%
    TOTAL 16,837
    *Otros Participación
    Papeletas en Blanco 13 Electores Inscritos en Unidades Reportadas 564,970
    Papeletas Recusadas No Adjudicadas 1 Votantes Según Lista 16,837
    Papeletas Protestadas y Otras No Adjudicadas 22 Participación de Electores 2.98%

    Total de Electores Inscritos 2,857,901
    Total de Sobres de Electores que Votaron Añadidos A Mano 280
    UNIDADES REPORTADAS 49 DE 335 PARA UN 14.63 %

  244. 244.

    Jeffro

    @dmsilev:

    I’d love to be a fly on the wall when Sanders places a call to let’s say Joe Biden and lobbies for his SD vote.

    LOL yes indeed. Bernie might be willing to ‘let that one go’, just in the interests of time…these rigged, scheduled primaries, don’t you know…only so many SD calls a guy can make before Philly.

  245. 245.

    Jeffro

    @rikyrah:

    THEY HAVE NO POLICY POSITION DIFFERENCES WITH TRUMP.

    THEY ARE ONLY MAD THAT HE WON’T SPEAK IN FRANK LUNTZ-APPROVED DOGWHISTLES TO HIDE THOSE POSITIONS.

    Well they do, rikyrah, it’s just that they would need an update from their staff as to exactly what policy positions Trump had taken within the past 15 minutes on that particular day…

  248. 248.

    Botsplainer, Cryptofascist Tool of the Oppressor Class

    Multiple bridges, but only one of them is totally dedicated to pedestrian traffic. As I understand, the procession will pass the Ali Center at some point (it is on 6th Street, north of Main. The funeral itself is supposed to be at Yum Center at 2nd and Main. The place seats 22000, but is likely to be full early. I think if you try and view the procession then try to hit Yum, you’ll be watching the Jumbotron on the plaza outside.

  249. 249.

    Renie

    Are either BIP and Retching Up posting here? I’m trying to see if my pie filter is working and I don’t see them but don’t know if it is cuz its working or they are not posting. Either way its a pleasure not seeing their nonsense.

  252. 252.

    Botsplainer, Cryptofascist Tool of the Oppressor Class

    There is another bridge at second street with sidewalks, but parking on the other side will be very limited. You may actually have better parking opportunities in my garage across from the Ali Center (Riverfront Garage) if you arrive between 8:30 and 9. there are going to be huge numbers of people from the sports and political worlds – a once in a lifetime opportunity to see them in one place. Assuming that you’ll be able to get in to Yum due to early enough arrival, you’ll be up close, too – sight lines in there are amazing.

  254. 254.

    J R in WV

    @RandomMonster:

    We had a big brown farm dog named Boomer, for his bark. 90 lbs of wriggling love, if he knew you.

    We would put down dinner plates for the dogs back then, and Boomer would get that plate so clean – except for the onions, he would leave even the tiny little shreds of onion behind, and remove all the gravy or sauce from around them onions.

    Boomer is gone now, and we miss him. He ran sneak thieves off more than once, just the sound of him coming for your truck! A great dog, much missed!

  256. 256.

    David ?Canadian Anchor Baby? Koch

    @Jeffro: There are 719 SD.

    Sanders loves to talk. So if he spent 20 minutes a piece making a case with each one, and worked 12 hours per day, he could contact all of them in 20 days.

  257. 257.

    Suzanne

    @redshirt: The indigenous peoples of this part of the country did high thermal mass houses, with small windows, courtyards, north-south orientation, and large shading devices to the south. The modern version is the one-story ranch house. Not a lot of basement living here because of the caliche soil, and it floods periodically.

    The modern building materials that are the most insulative aren’t commonly used on residences—metal panel a la Centria, EIFS systems, ICF. The secret is continuous insulation, even more important than high R-value.

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