Come for the politics, stay for the snark.

The republican ‘Pastor’ of the House is an odious authoritarian little creep.

Books are my comfort food!

I might just take the rest of the day off and do even more nothing than usual.

“In the future, this lab will be a museum. do not touch it.”

Boeing: repeatedly making the case for high speed rail.

Republicans are the party of chaos and catastrophe.

There are more Russians standing up to Putin than Republicans.

Not rolling over. fuck you, make me.

The desire to stay informed is directly at odds with the need to not be constantly enraged.

Fear or fury? The choice is ours.

Come on, man.

American history and black history cannot be separated.

Jesus watching the most hateful people claiming to be his followers

’Where will you hide, Roberts, the laws all being flat?’

Donald Trump found guilty as fuck – May 30, 2024!

Republicans: slavery is when you own me. freedom is when I own you.

Petty moves from a petty man.

This country desperately needs a functioning fourth estate.

Since we are repeating ourselves, let me just say fuck that.

Trumpflation is an intolerable hardship for every American, and it’s Trump’s fault.

It may be funny to you motherfucker, but it’s not funny to me.

Imperialist aggressors must be defeated, or the whole world loses.

rich, arrogant assholes who equate luck with genius

It’s pointless to bring up problems that can only be solved with a time machine.

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Thursday Evening Open Thread: Be of Good Cheer!

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From the hometown paper, the Boston Globe:

Senator Elizabeth Warren is planning to endorse Hillary Clinton tonight in an appearance on MSNBC’s Rachel Maddow Show, according to a Warren adviser.

Warren moved up her timeline to endorse Clinton — she had initially planned to do it next week…

Apart from some hard-earned celebration, what’s on the agenda for the evening?

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  3. 3.

    Major Major Major Major

    Go dems! Mwahaha!

    I asked below but I’m repeating: Can anybody explain to me how one can self-fund a campaign legally? Gin & Tonic mentioned something about matching funds? Just a link would be nice?

    @Xecky Gilchrist: I plan to celebrate with a glass of the blood of Honduran children, personally.

  4. 4.

    Cat48

    Well, I’m of good cheer, Bams at 53% approval rating today on Gallup. I adore him & I’m looking forward to his time on the trail.

  6. 6.

    RaflW

    The Martin O’Malley endorsement will clearly stop Trump in his tracks. And Bernie!

    (Actually, a fine and decent thing for O’Malley to do. I just had to snark a tiny bit)

  8. 8.

    aimai

    SO HAPPY! OK, I’ll lower my voice. So, so, happy. Can someone please film Bernie staggering around like Red Foxx, clutching his chest and wailing. Because I am so sick of that guy. I stand by my earlier comments–there is and always will be something absolutely enraging about the way this old white fart tried to use the President of the United States as his errand boy to negotiate with the future First Madame President of the United States. He can’t exit, stage left, pursued by a bear, fast enough for me.

  12. 12.

    gogol's wife

    I was planning to watch The King and I on TCM, but maybe I’ll have to figure out what channel Maddow is on.

  14. 14.

    mali muso

    Longtime lurker, rare commenter here. After 2 miscarriages and a year of thinking we were infertile, my husband and I are now into 16 weeks of a new pregnancy. I found out on Tuesday that we are expecting a girl. Getting the news at the same time of Hillary’s historic candidacy has made me very thoughtful and hopeful. DH is black and I am white, so not only will our biracial daughter have the legacy of Obama but also Hillary (I hope) as examples of how far she can reach. As apprehensive as I am about raising a little black girl in this country, it is good to have hope that things can get better.

  17. 17.

    billcoop4

    @mali muso: Lots of good thoughts, vibes, prayers, and good wishes!

    I think we are living in interesting times, and they will get interestinger for a bit more–whether the cause is domestic or foreign remains to be seen. Anyone who can take the abuse that Sec. Clinton has received for over 30 years and still wants to be in the public life is capable of handling those interesting times.

    No one would have objected had Sec. Clinton left State in 2012 to become a grandmother and author. Or author and grandmother. Whichever.

    WMC

  18. 18.

    the Conster, la Citoyenne

    @mali muso:

    In tears here with happiness for you. There is so much reason to be hopeful, especially if we refuse to let ourselves be divided. There really is no going back, and now we’ve got the heavy hitting part of the rotation on deck to help us. Blessings to all of you!

  19. 19.

    Reggie Mantle

    @aimai:

    Because there can be no “Good Cheer” here at BJ without wishing a heart attack or other misfortune on Sanders. Not Trump, mind you…Sanders.

    That’s kind of sick.

  22. 22.

    Corner Stone

    Hate to interrupt but can someone tell me…is this Infiniti car commercial equating driving their product with being gay?

  23. 23.

    Chyron HR

    @Reggie Mantle:

    It’s like they don’t even know they’re supposed to be hating the whore Clinton. Poor deluded fools. #BernieorBust #TheStruggleContinues

  25. 25.

    Kropadope

    Man, so much complaining and insults from the Clinton camp, someone waking up from a year-long coma reading these comments may well think she lost.

  27. 27.

    Tom Levenson

    @mali muso: Joy to you and health and happiness to your daughter-to-be. (And to you and yours of course. But joy first.)

  29. 29.

    Corner Stone

    Ok, on this MSNBC short list for D VP…Tom Perez is far and away the absolutely best choice.

  30. 30.

    hovercraft

    Tuesday rall in Greenbay is DVR tv, I can’t wait for Obama on stage in a explictly political event where he can let loose. The tweet storm from Fifth Avenue should be epic.

  31. 31.

    guachi

    You guys see Clinton’s awesome Twitter reply (from staffer, not her) to Trump? No?

    Then go to her Twitter feed NOW!!!! You’ll thank me.

  32. 32.

    Cat48

    @mali muso:

    Congratulations to you both on your pregnancy. It’s sweet, part of Obama and Hillary. May she do great things in life and be a great success and may she sleep well while she’s a baby! : )

  33. 33.

    different-church-lady

    DEVINE steps backwards into WEAVER’S office

    DEVINE: You’re going to need a bigger bus.

  34. 34.

    Reggie Mantle

    @Kropadope:

    Man, so much complaining and insults from the Clinton camp, someone waking up from a year-long coma reading these comments may well think she lost.

    They literally cannot feel joy that’s not combined with their hatred.

  38. 38.

    hovercraft

    @Corner Stone:
    He is my favorite. Pithy biting cuts at Trump, all with a smile. I like his policy positions, though obviously she would set policy. He has done a good job in the admin. And it would help energize the base.

  39. 39.

    MoxieM

    Imagine the Grievances at the Sanders’s Festivus pole this year. Piled so high!

  41. 41.

    guachi

    Whatever staffer wrote that Trump burn off a tweet from Hillary better tweet “bye, Felicia” to Trump after he gets pounded in the election.

  42. 42.

    Litlebritdifrnt

    Spotted on twitter after the news of the Warren endorsement “holy shit the Deathstar is now fully operational”

  43. 43.

    Kropadope

    @FlipYrWhig: I read many threads. I had plenty to complain about when I was done. You think you can be constantly negative day in and day out without that coming back to you?

  45. 45.

    Temporarily Max McGee (Soon Enough to Be Andy K Again)

    @Reggie Mantle:

    Because there can be no “Good Cheer” here at BJ without wishing a heart attack or other misfortune on Sanders. Not Trump, mind you…Sanders.

    That’s kind of sick.

    Culturally ignorant, are we? That’s not a wish for a heart attack, but for Sanders to exit at least as obviously hyperboliclally as he’s been after every primary loss.

  47. 47.

    Reggie Mantle

    @FlipYrWhig:

    I know you’d love this place to be just another Internet echo chamber where everybody agrees on who to dump on and where it’s all hate, all the time. Maybe you should talk to Cole about making it a closed group where a small cabal decides who gets to read or post here and only approved posters who hate the proper people are allowed. Would that make you happy?

  48. 48.

    Anonymous At Work

    Am I the only one that noticed that Michelle and Barak Obama offered separate endorsements? Did that happen with Shrub and Laura or Bill and Hillary? Or is this the first time, and the start of something new (and wonderful)?

  50. 50.

    FlipYrWhig

    @hovercraft: This cycle a lot of people are acting like “the base” means white liberals, and I’m not sure that’s true. But what’s nice about Perez is that he can build bridges to that segment _and also_ others. The cool thing about Perez from a political strategy standpoint is that he’s a civil rights guy, a labor guy, a liberal guy, a (relatively) young guy (for a politician), and a person of color. I don’t know anything negative about him. I hope it stays that way.

  51. 51.

    JPL

    @mali muso: Congratulations and since Hillary will be the next President, your daughter will have a bright future. Take advantage of early voting.

  53. 53.

    Corner Stone

    As I said in a previous thread:

    AAACCCKKK!! RON FOURNIER! NoooOOOooOOOooOoo!!

  54. 54.

    Reggie Mantle

    OP: “Be of good cheer! There’s good news for all!”

    RESPONSES: “OMG I HATE BERNIE SANDERS AND HIS SUPPORTERS SO FUCKING MUCH!”

    Sick, I tells ya.

  55. 55.

    Kropadope

    Post title: “Be of Good Cheer!”

    First two posts: Fuck Bernie.

    Can’t say I blame the posters. That’s been the dominant culture here for a year.

  60. 60.

    Temporarily Max McGee (Soon Enough to Be Andy K Again)

    @Reggie Mantle:

    It wouldn’t hurt your case if you took the time to drop some original thought into something insightful rather than posting like an SEO spammer on meth.

  61. 61.

    Mnemosyne

    @Anonymous At Work:

    There has been quite a bit of tension between black and white feminists the past few years (especially online) so I think it’s a really smart move for Mrs. Obama to give a separate endorsement to show that the bygones of 2008 really are bygones.

    In a weird way, I’m glad that she’s going to be followed by a First Gentleman and not another First Lady because she’s just been so awesome in that role. She would be a very, very hard act to follow.

  63. 63.

    FlipYrWhig

    @Reggie Mantle: I know you’d like every thread to be about what every thread is about, and why it’s not about what you want it to be about, and how that makes you feel, and why the rest of the world should care. You know, important things!

  66. 66.

    slag

    I agree that we should be of good cheer. A cut-off point for ribbing Sanders people should be collectively determined. A Berndependence Day, of sorts. It’s for the good of the country.

  67. 67.

    dogwood

    @aimai:
    I’m happy too. This is her time. I supported Obama in 08 and have never regretted that choice. I had no animosity toward Hillary and I’ve never questioned the fact that she is a liberal. I just felt deep down that despite the arguments about experience that people liked to throw around, 08 was his time. He was the right candidate for that moment in history. And now, with her husband’s presidency nearly another decade in the rear view mirror and his general absence from the campaign trail, this about her. She is the right person for this moment in history.

  68. 68.

    hamletta

    @aimai: I dunno. I’ve been really ticked off at Bernie the last few weeks, but his statement today was very nice. After everybody’s had a couple of weeks to cool off, I’m confident he’ll be a real asset on the campaign trail.

    I just wish my mom were here to see her girl get the nom. She was a supporter in 2008 and was wary of Obama until he picked Ol’ Handsome Joe as VP, because she loved that guy. I actually took her ashes off the shelf during Hillary’s speech the other night, because I so wanted her with me at that moment.

    If that grosses you out, get back to me when your mama’s gone.

  69. 69.

    Schlemazel Khan

    @mali muso:
    Mazel Tov!

    Children are the most painful joy you could ever imagine. My the world be open to her in ways we cannot yet imagine and you all have the best of everything.

  73. 73.

    Miss Bianca

    @Kropadope:You’re welcome. Not really true, btw, but oh my God – your squid-ink cloud of butthurt (thanks, AL!) is just too fucking funny to resist provoking.

  74. 74.

    hovercraft

    @Mnemosyne: @Litlebritdifrnt:
    Barack, Michelle, Elizabeth, Joe, that’s not just a deathstar that’s the 1st four hitters from murders row ( 1927 Yankees) . That deep bench of the GOP was single A compared to this line-up.
    Let the games begin.

  75. 75.

    Gene108

    @JPL:

    Congratulations and since Hillary will be the next President, your daughter will have a bright future. Take advantage of early voting.

    Registering infants to vote is getting bit too early-voting for me.

  76. 76.

    Reggie Mantle

    @slag:

    A cut-off point for ribbing Sanders people should be collectively determined. A Berndependence Day, of sorts. It’s for the good of the country.

    As thread after thread has shown, this place would be a ghost town if they couldn’t express their hatred for Sanders and anyone who backs him. Cole might actually sustain injuries from all the bile build-up. What’s the good of the country compared to that?

  77. 77.

    guachi

    Gonna keep flogging Clinton’s tweet with 250,000 likes until you all go read it and it becomes a front page post so we can all laugh at Trump together.

  82. 82.

    Kropadope

    @Miss Bianca: How can you POSSIBLY distinguish my “ink cloud” of butthurt from the ocean of butthurt Clintonistas display here on a daily basis? Is it because Clinton butthurt ink is sparkly and smells like roses?

    @Mnemosyne: Never met this person in my life and the fact that two distinct people can independently observe what assholes many of the people here are being is not at all surprising to me.

  83. 83.

    Reggie Mantle

    @Mnemosyne:

    Otherwise, it’s WAY too obvious that you’re working from the same sheet of talking points.

    I forget, are those talking points supposedly coming from the Trump campaign, Green Party HQ, or the Sanders campaign? I’ve been accused of being paid by so many different people, I sometimes lose track of what lunatic conspiracy theory I’m being accused in this time.

  84. 84.

    I'mNotSureWhoIWantToBeYet

    @Major Major Major Major:

    Can anybody explain to me how one can self-fund a campaign legally?

    I’ve missed the context for this.

    Candidates can spend as much of their own money as they want because “money = speech”. So there’s nothing wrong with self-funding a campaign.

    Why are you asking? Am I missing something?

    Cheers,
    Scott.

  85. 85.

    different-church-lady

    @Reggie Mantle:

    I sometimes lose track of what lunatic conspiracy theory I’m being accused in this time.

    Well, you gotta admit you fit into a lot of boxes.

  86. 86.

    mali muso

    Thanks for all the lovely kind wishes! I am due around Thanksgiving, so I am looking forward to volunteering for Hillary here in Virginia and seeing her elected before my baby girl comes into the world. The alternative does not bear contemplating.

    Side note: with my husband being black, an immigrant (from Africa), and (nominally) Muslim, the Trump stuff is personal. I have zero patience for privileged folks who “don’t see any difference” between our choices in November. For some of us and our families it is existential.

  87. 87.

    Brachiator

    A Muslim funeral for Muhammad Ali on Thursday drew thousands of admirers to the boxer’s hometown of Louisville, Kentucky, where mourners prayed over the body of a man who battled in the ring and sought peace outside it.

    An estimated 14,000 people, representing many races and creeds, attended the jenazah, or funeral in Arabic, where he was repeatedly feted as “the people’s champion….”

    Imam Zaid Shakir, a founder of Muslim liberal arts school Zaytuna College in Berkeley, California, led worshippers in prayers such as “Allahu akbar” (“God is greatest”) over Ali’s body, which lay in a casket covered with a black and gold cloth.

    Ali and his family planned his funeral for 10 years, making sure it would honor his Muslim faith while also adapting to the demands of Western media-driven culture.

    He was due to be buried on Friday, after a funeral procession and before one final goodbye when thousands more will gather for an interfaith service.

    A Muslim funeral in Louisville, KY. Imagine that.

    Still the greatest.

    Please proceed, Mr. Trump.

  89. 89.

    Rommie

    @Reggie Mantle: Keep annoying Moose and you get his undivided attention – what’s the lesson here?

    And I see you sneaking in that guitar when you are the Bass Player – way to support the band!

  92. 92.

    Miss Bianca

    @Kropadope: Oh come on, K-rope – even your attempts at snark have a painful, labored quality. Maybe *that’s* how I can tell your butthurt from everyone else’s – perhaps some Kaopectate would help you eject that doubtless very uncomfortable stick from your fundamental regions?

  93. 93.

    Major Major Major Major

    @I’mNotSureWhoIWantToBeYet: Well…

    So let’s say I’m a candidate. I can spend as much of my personal money as I want on my own campaign? What are the mechanisms that account for where I got that money? If I take a job at Holding Company International for two years and make ten million dollars, can I use that to run for senate? Can Charles Koch pay me five million for “services rendered” on a 1099 contract and I can use that to run for office?

  95. 95.

    Kropadope

    @Miss Bianca: It is painful and labored. I’m not happy doing this, I’m miserable coming to a site where I’ve posted for years and just seeing wall-to-wall hostility.

  99. 99.

    Mnemosyne

    @Reggie Mantle:

    I’m just saying, if you’re going to use a sock puppet, you should try to change at least a few words of the post before you post it a second time under your other name.

  103. 103.

    JordanRules

    Woooohooooooo!!!!! All hands on deck!

    The Dem Dream Team is at the shoot around before the game just showing off.

  104. 104.

    geg6

    This like having Mickey Mantle, Babe Ruth, Roberto Clemente, Hank Aaron and Willie Stargell in your starting lineup. I’m so excited! Between the Pens game tonight and the Dem All-Star home run derby, I couldn’t be happier.

    Mario’s screen at the Consol Center has already gotten so crowded that Mario has gotten permission from the city to set up a second big screen outdoors in Market Square to accommodate the crowd. If they win tonight, the city will be insane. Our teams have won numerous World Series, Super Bowls and Stanley Cups in my lifetime. But none have them have won a championship at home since the Pirates won the Series in 1960. I was only two at the time and don’t remember it, but I remember people talking about it and have seen film of it. The place went nuts…in a good way. I’m hoping for that to happen tonight.

  105. 105.

    Gene108

    @Reggie Mantle:

    As thread after thread has shown, this place would have nothing to say if they couldn’t express their hatred for Sanders and anyone who backs him. Cole might actually sustain injuries from all the bile build-up. What’s the good of the country compared to that?

    I usually ignore you, but what is your point?

    You show up and say the same thing over and over: Balloon-Juice is Hill-bot central, we are closed minded for wanting this two year long Presidential primary to finally be over, and we are mean to you.

    I don’t get what you hope to accomplish.

    P.S. One reason people got sick of the Sanders campaign and supporters is recycling right-wing talking points about how corrupt the Clintons are. Do you know there’s only ONE SCANDAL WHERE A CLINTON WAS GUILTY? One. And that’s Bill lying to his wife about having an affair. Tens of millions of dollars and years of investigations have proven the Clintons get accused of a lot of shit they did not do. And yet this makes them corrupt.

    PPS: Making millions off of book deals and speaking fees is not corrupt. You may not approve of people making millions, but that’s your opinion; and not an actual definition of corruption.

  108. 108.

    Smiling Mortician

    So here’s a thing that seems somehow relevant. Last night I posted an invitation on FB for my Bernie-or-bust pals to engage in a discussion about why. I disclosed that I was originally Bern-curious but now #I’mWithHer, forbid any links to memes or pundits, just invited arguments. Mostly I was interested in whether these mostly young, very passionate people were really gonna bern it down. Interesting thing happened.

    I got lots of “likes” from women, young and old, for my parts of the arguments that ensued. Only men argued with me. The young ones just explained what they liked about Bernie and then said “But of course I’m voting for Hillary.” Only two people were assholes (by which I mean one told me to fuck off in my own FB living room when I asked him if he had facts, and one lectured me about how stupid it is to negotiate with an eye toward compromise like that weak-ass Hillary). Both are white males somewhere north of 40.

    I’m now less worried about losing the Youngs.

    N.B. This comment is not Bernie-bashing. It’s not Bernie-supporter-bashing. It’s just me bashing two individual assholes, and taking comfort in the thoughtfulness of most Bernie supporters in my FacebookSphere.

  110. 110.

    SiubhanDuinne

    @mali muso:

    Very, very happy for you and your husband. You surely know that every Balloon Juice baby gets John Cole as a godfather, so once you get past that hurdle, raising a daughter should be piece o’ cake.

    Congratulations, seriously!

  111. 111.

    Miss Bianca

    @hamletta: Doesn’t gross me out at all. I wish I could feel sure my mother would have been happy to see the first woman poised to become President. Alas, she was an anti-feminist as well as a rock-ribbed Republican. Still, tho’ – she waxed surprisingly eloquent one time on how much easier it would have been to preserve her first marriage if she could have been the one to work and my sibs’ dad could have stayed hiome with the kids – “but this was the 50s, it just wasn’t done!” – so I dunno. She might have surprised me after all. : )

  112. 112.

    PatrickG

    @Kropadope:

    You think you can be constantly negative day in and day out without that coming back to you?

    I award this comment the Rory Award for Most Gratuitous Use of Blinding Lack of Self-Awareness.

    Congratulations on this very prestigious award!

  114. 114.

    Gelfling545

    @Reggie Mantle: There is no wish to restrict. It is mere curiosity regarding your choices. I mean, when I find a place I don’t like at all, I don’t go there. Again I say, what you are pleased to call hate is mere e aspiration with the unnecessary drama.

  115. 115.

    Kropadope

    @different-church-lady: No, I just avoid coming here every day and, honestly, don’t follow the campaign as closely and life is way more pleasant.

    I could find another website, but that probably just means trading in for a much larger set of assholes. So, I’ll keep showing up, hoping that your priapism your collective hate-on has developed subsides.

  117. 117.

    Cat48

    @mali muso:

    I agree with you on Trump. All the white nationalist rhetoric makes me depressed. I thought we were past that, but, no, we have a racist running for president. It’s just repellant!

  118. 118.

    EllenH

    @Major Major Major Major: A candidate can always spend as much of his or her own money as s/he wants. It’s been that way since the 1975 decision Buckley v. Valeo when the SCOTUS held that money = free speech.

    ETA it was 1976.

  120. 120.

    Kropadope

    @PatrickG:

    I award this comment the Rory Award for Most Gratuitous Use of Blinding Lack of Self-Awareness.

    Congratulations on this very prestigious award!

    My negativity is the “back around” portion. I have never been this negative so reliably and the ones lacking self-awareness are you and many of those surrounding you who think their nastiness is OK because it’s in service of their saintly, anointed candidate.

  121. 121.

    Feebog

    @mali muso:
    Wow, that is so great. Congratulations to both of you. And while your enthusiasm for our next President is admirable, don’t overdue, take care of yourself and your baby, and enjoy the experience, swollen feet and all.

  123. 123.

    The Golux

    @I’mNotSureWhoIWantToBeYet:

    Linda McMahon spent $48.7M of her own money to run for Senate in CT in 2012.

    As a Connecticut resident, it was delicious to watch her go down in flames (twice!). As will Drumpf (AKA Donnie Punchline), I hope.

  126. 126.

    SiubhanDuinne

    @gogol’s wife:

    If you happen to live near a Fathom Events cinema, they’re showing The King and I on August 28, with an encore on August 31. I have it in my calendar for both dates. Have seen it often on TV/DVD over the years, but haven’t seen it on the big screen since it came out in 1956 or thereabouts, so I’m really stoked. (Also Dr Strangelove on September 18 and 21!)

  128. 128.

    Gin & Tonic

    @Major Major Major Major: Returning to this late, but yes, if I earn a salary (or commissions, or whatever) and want to spend it on *my own* campaign, that’s perfectly OK. If I want to donate it to *your* campaign, i’m subject to FEC limits.

    There’s probably a million ways to skirt the rules, and the FEC doesn’t have enough of a budget (any budget?) for enforcement, so there you go.

    I ran for a municipal office years ago. I printed some of my brochures on a copier at the office, Being basically honest, I reported that to my state board of elections, or whatever it is. That looked like a corporate donation, which is illegal. So they sent me a letter asking for clarification. I ignored the letter. Nothing happened.

  129. 129.

    Patricia Kayden

    @Cat48: 53% approval rating for the Kenyan Usurper!! That’s amazing. This should be a great campaign season. Sucks to be Trump.

  131. 131.

    slag

    @Reggie Mantle: I’m unconvinced. It’s only been a couple of days since the end has been nigh. And the Thomas Franks of the world keep spilling nonsense things out of their mind holes. We shouldn’t expect miracles overnight.

    I’m going to call Warren’s endorsement the official end of Bernmorial Day for me, after which time, my missiles fly only Trumpward (and general Republicanward) through the rest of the year.

  132. 132.

    Gin & Tonic

    @SiubhanDuinne: I know you’ll appreciate this to a degree that most others won’t, but the dear Mrs loves The King and I, so we saw it on Broadway in Yul Brynner’s last run, when I think he already knew he was dying. It was glorious.

  133. 133.

    Mnemosyne

    @Kropadope:

    the ones lacking self-awareness are you and many of those surrounding you who think their nastiness is OK because it’s in service of their saintly, anointed candidate.

    Sorry, whose supporters were screaming “bitch!” at Barbara Boxer in Nevada? You seem to be lacking a bit of self-awareness here yourself.

    Also, congratulations — that very wise and strategic move by the Bernistas turned California into a Clinton landslide. You should be proud.

  135. 135.

    gwangung

    Nah….I don’t have problems with Sanders supporters. They’re focussed on a relevant issue and their stands will undoubtedly be a major part of the party for the foreseeable future.

    Now, attention whores, on the other hand….

  136. 136.

    TaMara (HFG)

    See, I just skip the trolls and I get to read inspiring comments by mali muso, hamletta, jordanrules, which make smile, tear up and laugh happily.

    Now I must get back to work…

  137. 137.

    Kropadope

    @Mnemosyne: Sorry, was I screaming “bitch” at Barbara Boxer in CA? No.

    I’m still at a loss trying to figure out why everyone supporting Bernie, or even people supporting Hillary but who don’t like the negativity from either side, needs to painted with the big broad Berniebro brush.

  139. 139.

    burnspbesq

    @Major Major Major Major:

    @ I plan to celebrate with a glass of the blood of Honduran children, personally

    Chateau Zelaya 2009. Rich and full-bodied, with hints of grapefruit and Kalashnikov.

  140. 140.

    Patricia Kayden

    @mali muso: Congratulations!! That’s absolutely lovely. I won’t even suggest that you call her Hillary Michelle (smile).

    @guachi: Yes, she told Trump to delete his tweeter account. Hilarious slam. She’s having fun toying with him (as is Elizabeth Warren).

  141. 141.

    Botsplainer, Cryptofascist Tool of the Oppressor Class

    @Brachiator:

    I’m going tomorrow to the main event – got 4 tix (my connection had two more, but I had mercy).

  142. 142.

    hamletta

    @mali muso: Congratulations on your upcoming Young American!

    I have faith in the people of this country. You and your family will be just fine. I think the attention we pay to the bigots, while important, makes them seem more numerous and powerful than they are.

    And we will have a Madame President, because Trump has no clue how to build a campaign organization, and has no interest in learning. Hillary’s campaign has fellows starting organization boot camp even as we speak, and Combover Caligula is hiring an incompetent pollster to help him win the state of New York. Bwahaha!

    Thanks to all for the nice comments about my mom!

  146. 146.

    JPL

    @Gene108: Decades ago, my due date was election day. At the time we were living in Louisiana, and you could only vote early, if you were planning to be out of state. I guess I voted illegally, because I swore that was true.

  147. 147.

    chopper

    @mali muso:

    Longtime lurker, rare commenter here. After 2 miscarriages and a year of thinking we were infertile, my husband and I are now into 16 weeks of a new pregnancy. I found out on Tuesday that we are expecting a girl.

    mazel tov! your first?

  148. 148.

    Schlemazel Khan

    @Baud:
    I’m with you, I did not find it interesting, funny, pointed, or devastating. I assume it must be some hep lingo thing all the cool cats & groovy kids are into these days/

  149. 149.

    Corner Stone

    Mullah Barack The Islamic Shock is so eager and ready to deliver a yooge and classy application of The People’s Elbow to Trump.

  152. 152.

    Patricia Kayden

    @hovercraft: The GOP “deep bench” turned out to be a bunch of Clowns competing to be as derpish and coocoo as possible. This year’s deep bench was even wilder than the one in 2012 when we had such Clowns as 999 Cain, Crazy Eyes Bachmann, Blah People Santorum and the Newt. Can’t wait to see what Republicans dredge up in 2020.

  153. 153.

    Mnemosyne

    @Kropadope:

    I’m still at a loss trying to figure out why everyone supporting Bernie, or even people supporting Hillary but who don’t like the negativity from either side, needs to painted with the big broad Berniebro brush.

    Uh, nobody’s doing that. What we’re saying is that YOU AND YOUR SOCK PUPPET REGGIE are being dicks.

    Not every Bernie supporter is being a dick.

    YOU are being a dick. Please stop it.

  154. 154.

    Baud

    @Schlemazel Khan:

    I assume it must be some hep lingo thing all the cool cats & groovy kids are into these days/

    Yeah, I don’t hang out with the cool kids. I prefer the company of older gentlemen. . . .

  155. 155.

    hovercraft

    @Mnemosyne:
    Not to mention death threats to the Nevada Democratic chairwoman, the vitriol spewed at anyone who came out in support of her. Labeling us as sellouts corporate whores, ahh good times. Yes punching back. Bernie surrogates are out there right now making ridiculous comments and demands as we speak eg Jeffrey Sachs, Cenk Uyger, etc. if thay stop we will stop. His superpac is organizing a rally in Chicago next week to get more people to go to Philly. ( Yes he has a superpac and they travel with him). If you want to preach reconcilliation you have to lay down your arms and then we will too.

  156. 156.

    Percysowner

    Well thanks to certain posters I finally installed Troll-Be-Gone. It’s wonderful!

    I’m also waiting with baited breath to see EW on the Rachel Maddow Show!

  159. 159.

    SiubhanDuinne

    @hamletta:

    I actually took her ashes off the shelf during Hillary’s speech the other night, because I so wanted her with me at that moment.

    If that grosses you out, get back to me when your mama’s gone.

    Didn’t gross me out at all. What a beautiful thing for you to do. (My own mom’s been gone for 40+ years, but I like to think she’d be pretty damned happy about HRC’s candidacy.)

  160. 160.

    Schlemazel Khan

    @Kropadope:
    Ah, so that settles it then, one of the paid GOP trolls intent on causing distrust and dissent among the decent people. I was suspecting as much given the direction your sludge was taking but that comment alone sealed the deal. You failed, go tell your handlers, collect your check and go to hellhome

  162. 162.

    Patricia Kayden

    @Brachiator: Looking forward to seeing news coverage of Ali’s funeral services. Such a great man. Never was a fan of boxing, but always admired him — especially his anti-Vietnam War stance. We’re losing a lot of great people this year.

  164. 164.

    Cacti

    Hmmm…what to call the 2016 campaign team?

    The Super Friends?

    The A-Team?

    The Avengers?

  166. 166.

    chopper

    @Litlebritdifrnt:

    he never did. he’s been loaning his campaign money that he doesn’t really have under the assumption that the GOP is gonna step in and cover it (i’m sure he’s paying himself a hefty interest rate).

  168. 168.

    Schlemazel Khan

    @Patricia Kayden:
    SOmeone here – and I sincerely thank them & wish they would remind me who it was so they could receive the appropriate accolades – pointed out that the GOP has a deep trench not bench

    yet they keep digging

  169. 169.

    hovercraft

    Speaking of playing nice, lets take a look at Warrens facebook page:

    “Elizabeth Warren, you are a total fake. Your endorsement means nothing. You have destroyed your career by supporting Clinton. We will never ever trust you again.. EVER!!”
    “Thanks for being a sellout!”
    “TRAITOR!!!!!!!”
    Elizabeth Warren’s Facebook Fans on Clinton Endorsement: Noooooooooooo!
    “I should have known all along that you were a sellout.”
    Et tu, Warren?

    After news broke Thursday afternoon that Sen. Elizabeth Warren, the progressive hero from Massachusetts, would endorse Hillary Clinton on MSNBC’s Rachel Maddow show on Thursday night, Bernie Sanders’ fans took to Facebook to voice their frustration…..

    http://www.motherjones.com/...

  171. 171.

    tastytone

    @Kropadope:

    hoping that your priapism your collective hate-on has developed subsides.

    It will. But IMO it’s just a good ol’ case of joy-boner at not having to explain delegate math anymore to posts with obligatory mentions of “neoliberal/shill/establishment/triangulation/hippie-punching”.

    Punches were thrown. It’ll take a minute.

  172. 172.

    Schlemazel Khan

    @Baud:
    I prefer the company of younger women but they do not return the favor and my bride has some sort of objections ;)

    Think: Einsteins explanation of the theory of relativity.

  173. 173.

    Percysowner

    @SiubhanDuinne: My mom’s been gone for 50+ years and when Hillary finally won I thought about her and even said “hey, it finally happened”.

  174. 174.

    Patricia Kayden

    @TaMara (HFG): Me too. I skip the trolls and any responsive comments. Otherwise the comment threads would be unreadable.

    @JPL: O-o. You’re the reason we now have these ridiculous voter restrictions!! Just joking.

  175. 175.

    Amir Khalid

    @mali muso:
    As the blog’s official Malaysian correspondent, let me add my congratulations to everyone else’s. Sending good thoughts your way.

  176. 176.

    germy

    @Patricia Kayden:

    Can’t wait to see what Republicans dredge up in 2020.

    Cruz will be back. He won’t give up until he either wins or keels over from old age. It’s written in the stars; his father’s been telling him that since he was knee-high to a Koch.

  179. 179.

    Reggie Mantle

    @Mnemosyne:

    This whole “sock puppet” claim is just another way the Hill-bullies try and deny reality. If someone is going to push back, it must only be one person using many names, not many. The alternative would mean something they just can’t bear to think about.

  181. 181.

    slag

    @JudyinSD: Thanks! And reading the response tweets to that explanation subsequently says everything you need to know about Twitter. It’s apparently reductio ad Redditico over there.

    Sanders supporters don’t seem to know how good they have it here, in comparison with someone simply explaining things on the Internets.

  182. 182.

    hovercraft

    @Patricia Kayden:
    Well now that they’ve moved to celebrities I’m thinking Ted Nugent, Jon Voight, Victoria Jackson, or Stacey Dash. If Clint the chair was a little younger I’d add him too.

  184. 184.

    Schlemazel Khan

    @Baud:
    I was thinking when he said “If I were sitting on the porch with a pretty young girl for a minute it would seem like a second to me but an hour to her”

  185. 185.

    John

    @Reggie Mantle: The thing about Fred Sanford is that he never actually was having a heart attack. He was just faking it for sympathy and to express his outrage at things not going his way, Sounds very appropriate for Sanders, actually. However, if you want to wish a heart attack on Trump, who am I to stop you?

  186. 186.

    Kropadope

    @Schlemazel Khan: If you think I’m a paid GOP troll, I suggest you look up the threads where I was defending the ACA or comprehensive immigration reform or any issues based thread I participated in. Basically any thread where the entire BJ community wasn’t shitting all over half the voters who participated in the Democratic primaries.

  188. 188.

    Mike in DC

    So, the percentage of Sanders diehards who won’t vote for Clinton, at the moment, is roughly. …27 percent. Hmmm.

  189. 189.

    tsquared2001

    @hamletta: I wish I had thought of that so no grossness factor at all.

    On another note, this is also YOOGE news:

    “The U.S. 9th Circuit Court of Appeals decided in a 7-4 ruling that California counties may restrict permits for carrying concealed firearms in public.”

    This decision will eventually reach the Supreme Court and I am SO looking forward to the two, maybe three Mrs. Clinton appointees upholding with a short and sweet opinion that reads something like: Fuck off, NRA.

  192. 192.

    Temporarily Max McGee (Soon Enough to Be Andy K Again)

    @Reggie Mantle:

    And now that the tag has been made, Reggie takes up the Gish gallop from Krodapope.

  193. 193.

    PatrickG

    @Kropadope:

    You know, maybe your mood would improve if you took a nice long walk instead of barging into every thread flinging poo at everybody and then whining when people justifiably roll their eyes at you. Just a thought!

    I’ll just ignore you for now, though, because I’d like to stay in my very positive and happy place. On that note, I give you a sample of my personal Taylor Swift cover:

    ‘Cause the haters gonna hate, hate, hate, hate, hate
    And race-baiters gonna bait, bait, bait, bait, bait
    We’re gonna make America great great great
    But not with Trump! Not with Trump!

  197. 197.

    Mnemosyne

    @Reggie Mantle:

    This whole “sock puppet” claim is just another way the Hill-bullies try and deny reality.

    You posted identical, word-for-word posts, one after the other. I guess I’m supposed to believe you and not my lying eyes?

  198. 198.

    Emma

    @Gene108:

    I don’t get what you hope to accomplish.

    Getting attention. This is a classic narcissist — it’s not even about Sanders, it’s about how he can get us to engage directly with him. And, on top of that, he uses the classic “more in sorrow than in anger” passive agressive bs.

    Best solution is to ignore him. Do not engage at all.

    The problem is that many of us are cats that love to play with mice.

  199. 199.

    Kropadope

    @Mnemosyne: At least I know I’m being an asshole and I have made a conscious decision to do so and I have even done you the service of explaining why. When a noticeable chunk of you manage to develop a modicum of self-awareness, I’ll tone it down a bit. Until then, fuck you haters.

  200. 200.

    hovercraft

    @chopper:
    The scams even worse than that most of the money he has spent has been to himself, ie charging his campaign for using his own stuff like his plane and properties. So he gets the money at both ends, the business makes money and he can use any money raised to pay himself back. Like EW said con man.

  201. 201.

    Uncle Cosmo

    @The Golux: Drudgie must be an expert, since it looks at a fuckwit every time it looks straight into a mirror. Presuming it has a reflection, which ain’t a given.

  202. 202.

    Trollhattan

    @tsquared2001:
    Right on. Our asshole county sheriff has increased the number of permits about ten-fold since entering office and now has declared himself Republican (duh) endorsed Donny and is challenging an area Democratic congressman. I’m torn, lose a loser, gun-totin’ sheriff or a needed Dem house seat? Ugh.

  205. 205.

    MomSense

    @mali muso:

    Congratulations! Sending best wishes for a healthy and happy pregnancy, delivery, and baby! I hope labor is healthy, too but happy may be a bit too much to ask. The good news is that all is forgiven and forgotten as soon as you hold your baby.

  212. 212.

    SiubhanDuinne

    @Gin & Tonic:

    Oh, wow! To see him in person in that defining role!

    I’ve probably told this story before, so feel free to ignore it if it sounds familiar, but my voice teacher (college) had enjoyed a bit of a Broadway career and was the understudy for Gertrude Lawrence (the original Anna Leonowens). When GL left the show in 1952 because of what turned out to be her final illness, my teacher, Annamary Dickey, took over the role for a few performances.

    She related the story that in one scene the King walks menacingly toward Mrs. Anna and she takes several steps backwards. Well, Annamary accidentally stepped on the hoop of her costume’s petticoat and fell kaboom! on her butt. Yul Brynner as King walked toward her and extended a hand to help her up, but shortly thereafter, offstage, he was clearly furious about the incident. Of course Annamary felt terrible, was sure the great star was incensed with her. But when she timidly apologized he told her he wasn’t mad at her — he was mad at himself for breaking character.

    “The King of Siam would never have demeaned himself by assisting a woman! I should have clapped for a servant to come on stage and help you up!” Staying in character no matter what — one of the fundamental rules of the theatre. And even the great Yul Brynner forgot it, briefly.

  213. 213.

    Kropadope

    @Mnemosyne:

    You posted identical, word-for-word posts, one after the other. I guess I’m supposed to believe you and not my lying eyes?

    Which posts?

  216. 216.

    tsquared2001

    @Trollhattan: Yikes, that sounds horrible. Pawlenty’s dumb fuck ass passed concealed carry in Minnesota but at least the Lege didn’t go as far as “must issue”.

  217. 217.

    different-church-lady

    @germy:

    Can’t wait to see what Republicans dredge up in 2020.

    Cruz will be back. He won’t give up until he either wins or keels over from old age.

    He’ll lose to Glen Beck

  218. 218.

    Kropadope

    @PatrickG:

    You know, maybe your mood would improve if you took a nice long walk

    I’ve been coming here a lot less lately, even just to read. It works until I come back and see the same old bullshit, because you haters can’t let this shit go. One 30 minute visit to this site can cancel the mood gains of a week away.

    instead of barging into every thread flinging poo at everybody and then whining when people justifiably roll their eyes at you. Just a thought!

    Is it so hard to see that I see you the same way you see me? At least I can justify my claims. I’m not throwing around claims of inter-party skullduggery or racism or any of that. Someone can disagree with you or even agree with you while thinking your an asshole without it being an issue of bad faith.

  219. 219.

    hovercraft

    @Major Major Major Major:
    To add to their bright future Paul Ryan joined the ‘freedom Caucus’ today Obviously a step toward a more sane party after the demise of Trump. Or maybe the move will inspire the base to carry Trump to victory.

  220. 220.

    different-church-lady

    @John:

    The thing about Fred Sanford is that he never actually was having a heart attack.

    Ironically, the cast of Foxx’s show were slow to respond to his real-life heart attack on the set for that very reason.

  221. 221.

    different-church-lady

    @Kropadope:

    One 30 minute visit to this site can cancel the mood gains of a week away.

    Well, I do hope you draw the appropriate conclusions from this circumstance.

  222. 222.

    Trollhattan

    @tsquared2001:
    When this guy (Scott Jones) was first elected he had two opponents who all debated on the radio. I made up my mind quickly when one said he’d continue the then-current policy of issuing permits sparingly, as the outgoing sheriff had. The other two practically had a catfight over who could sound the most like Wayne LaPierre. I was appalled, since this is a supposedly blue California county.

    I did find out permits must be renewed every two years, so like unclogging a sewer pipe, time can sluice them away (provided another nutter doesn’t take his place).

  225. 225.

    hovercraft

    @different-church-lady:
    Ohh I forgot about him, I guess we could add a radio talker / fox category. For that group I would have to say Mark Levin the nastiest most vitriolic voice in America or Alex Jones who makes Beck seem sane.

  226. 226.

    Kropadope

    @different-church-lady: If the appropriate conclusion is that you hypocritical assholes should share in the pain, yeah, I have.

    Newsflash: People don’t like being told they’re assholes. Whodathunk? At least I’m not slagging on half the Democratic electorate day after day like you do.

  228. 228.

    Reggie Mantle

    @Mnemosyne:

    You posted identical, word-for-word posts, one after the other. I guess I’m supposed to believe you and not my lying eyes?

    No, you’re supposed to use your common sense. The fact that two people notice the same thing doesn’t make them the same person. And do you think that if it was just one person using several names, that they’d do it as obviously as that? Don’t be a fool.

  229. 229.

    Percysowner

    Bernie was giving a speech to his followers. A few minutes later Elizabeth Warren started giving a speech on the GOP and the judiciary. MSNBC decided to cut from Sanders to Warren. The news cycle moves on.

  231. 231.

    Reggie Mantle

    @Mnemosyne:

    Sorry, whose supporters were screaming “bitch!” at Barbara Boxer in Nevada?

    And there’s your trouble, You lump every Sanders supporter into that same box, so you’re a nasty little shit to all of them.

  233. 233.

    different-church-lady

    @Kropadope:

    If the appropriate conclusion is that you hypocritical assholes should share in the pain…

    Oh, SO CLOSE!

  234. 234.

    Kropadope

    @Reggie Mantle: I’m still trying to figure out which of our posts were “word for word” the same. I haven’t seen an answer produced, Mnem.

  235. 235.

    Reggie Mantle

    @Kropadope:

    Oh, but they’re not REAL Democrats. They’re those awful young progressives who just joined up recently, so all they deserve is to be told to shut up, they’re not welcome or needed. Fight the future, BJ!

  237. 237.

    Kropadope

    @Reggie Mantle: Fuck the Independents and the new voters. Democrats don’t need them voting for their candidates in elections, not according to this crowd.

  238. 238.

    Reggie Mantle

    @Kropadope:

    They weren’t word for word the same. They were similar, because we both noticed and commented on the disconnect between the upbeat title of the OP and the nasty bro-bashing that came almost immediately afterwards. But this is Balloon Juice. They never let the facts get in the way.

  239. 239.

    Reggie Mantle

    I have never seen people on the winning side be this hateful, bitter and angry.

    Oh, wait, I have. 2000 and 2004, but that was the Republicans.

  240. 240.

    Kropadope

    If only there were a way for Hilary to win and the fall and the BJ psycho hater clique to still lose, I could die happy.

    OMG, this is the first time I, if only for a moment, considered Bernie even a marginally appropriate Veep choice.

  242. 242.

    different-church-lady

    @Kropadope:

    If only there were a way for Hilary to win and the fall and the BJ psycho hater clique to still lose, I could die happy

    If we can get it in writing I’ll think it over.

  245. 245.

    different-church-lady

    @Kropadope: You’re right! Let me get this off to the attorneys while you decide between burial and cremation.

  249. 249.

    Eric U.

    @Gin & Tonic: it would be mildly ironic for the Kochs to 1099 someone a campaign contribution when that means a lot of it would be paid in income taxes. After all, their only issue is taxes, as far as I can see

  251. 251.

    different-church-lady

    @Kropadope: There is a lot of hard work left to do, no doubt. But with our efforts and dedication we CAN prevail on your behalf!

  253. 253.

    dogwood

    @Kropadope:
    You’ve been here a long time so you know damn well that the day she makes her first appointment as president elect the love fest will be over and you will get your day in the sun. During the past 8 years the commenters here have only been overwhelmingly pro-Obama during election time. Otherwise it was nonstop fights about Obots and the true progressives. People seem to have short memories around here, but I don’t.

  254. 254.

    Smiling Mortician

    I do kinda like the symbolic value of the two screaming angerbeasts ranting at everyone here — between them posting as much as everyone else combined — and they’re bitching about how overwhelmed they are by sore winners. Meanwhile, I posted a story [#108, if anyone cares] about how awesome lots of Bernie supporters are being, with just a few real assholes, as we move to the general — and do these jamokes notice or comment or anything? Nope. They ignore it, just like they ignore everything except each other and anyone who responds directly to them. These guys are not interested in anything that doesn’t blow their own personal skirts up.

    And I bet I’m now one of the Evil Oppressive Team Hillary Bernie-Haters just for mentioning it.

  256. 256.

    cckids

    @JPL: My due date was one week after election day, 1992. And we share a last name with Bill & Hillary.

    Staunch Democrats though we are, we declined to name our offspring after the Pres. I will never get people who do that.

  259. 259.

    The Thin Black Duke

    @Smiling Mortician: Thing is, these two clowns once again managed to derail another thread, which is what they want. And I don’t understand why. They’re boring.

  262. 262.

    Kropadope

    @dogwood: I know this and I will likely be arguing against hose people on behalf of those nominees. My current antagonists, however, are of a different breed. Their attitude seems to be that the Democrats can do no wrong and that outlook, to me, is scary.

  264. 264.

    Kropadope

    @The Thin Black Duke: Because, deep down, these people need to argue because they know what assholes they’re actually being but need to appear to be unshakeable in their resolve. OK, Mr. I-can-rule-entire-topics-off-limits-based-on-who-I-perceive-you-to-be?

  265. 265.

    celticdragonchick

    @aimai:

    SO HAPPY! OK, I’ll lower my voice. So, so, happy. Can someone please film Bernie staggering around like Red Foxx, clutching his chest and wailing. Because I am so sick of that guy. I stand by my earlier comments–there is and always will be something absolutely enraging about the way this old white fart tried to use the President of the United States as his errand boy to negotiate with the future First Madame President of the United States. He can’t exit, stage left, pursued by a bear, fast enough for me.

    Motion seconded.

  266. 266.

    celticdragonchick

    @Reggie Mantle:

    I have never seen people on the winning side be this hateful, bitter and angry.

    Projection is always interesting to see in action, don’t you think?

  269. 269.

    PatrickG

    Kropadope, by your own admission you’ve chosen to be an asshole here (you’ve even explained why!). That is, you’ve chosen to troll this blog. And somehow, it’s everyone else’s fault that they respond to you … like you’re being an trolling asshole.

    /eyeroll

    Honestly though, if you’re so depressed by commenting here, why not do something — anything! — else. Visit a museum. Go for a bike ride. Eat ice cream with your bare hands. Contemplate the starry universe hanging upside down from a jungle gym, lightly stroking your nipples*. Something! Anything!

    * Actually, this will probably get you arrested. Do something else.

    ETA: Yeah, I shouldn’t keep feeding the troll. He’s pied now anyway.

  271. 271.

    Kropadope

    @PatrickG: Old habits are hard to break and this website wasn’t always this wall-to-wall, day-after-day unpleasant.

  272. 272.

    BruceFromOhio

    Ah yes. Thank you, Rachel.

    @Kropadope: The internets are a big place, and yet, for all the unpleasantness, you still come here to comment?

    Says more about you than the place.

    @PatrickG: Woops, you covered this already, and better. Cheers!

  281. 281.

    different-church-lady

    @PatrickG:

    Ok, wow, that came out a lot more creepy sounding than I intended.

    Wait… there’s a way of saying that without intending to sound creepy?

  283. 283.

    Elie

    @mali muso:

    Blessings to you and best wishes! Many warm thoughts on the life you bring into this world! (And your wonderful thoughts also)

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