Come for the politics, stay for the snark.

This has so much WTF written all over it that it is hard to comprehend.

The republican caucus is covering themselves with something, and it is not glory.

In after Baud. Damn.

The fight for our country is always worth it. ~Kamala Harris

Incompetence, fear, or corruption? why not all three?

Giving in to doom is how we fail to fight for ourselves & one another.

Republicans want to make it harder to vote and easier for them to cheat.

“What are Republicans afraid of?” Everything.

They are lying in pursuit of an agenda.

Do we throw up our hands or do we roll up our sleeves? (hint, door #2)

Hi god, it’s us. Thanks a heap, you’re having a great week and it’s only Thursday!

’Where will you hide, Roberts, the laws all being flat?’

“But what about the lurkers?”

It’s always darkest before the other shoe drops.

If you can’t control your emotions, someone else will.

There are more Russians standing up to Putin than Republicans.

Trump’s cabinet: like a magic 8 ball that only gives wrong answers.

The desire to stay informed is directly at odds with the need to not be constantly enraged.

Putting aside our relentless self-interest because the moral imperative is crystal clear.

Beware of advice from anyone for whom Democrats are “they” and not “we.”

Republicans in disarray!

Narcissists are always shocked to discover other people have agency.

No one could have predicted…

My right to basic bodily autonomy is not on the table. that’s the new deal.

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Roll the Credits

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Clinton demolishes Sanders in DC:

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For those of you keeping track, that’s 6% points below the Crazification factor.

He had an opportunity to bow out gracefully after a good and impressive run with some victories under his belt and some dignity, but a combination of shitty advisors who never ever told him the truth and were honest with him, his own delusional thinking, and rage against the machine kept him “in the race,” although in spirit only, as we now see. Now no one will even listen to his speech tonight, if he gives one. I doubt the networks even cover it if he does with everything else going on.

Reports are he’s going to meet with Clinton tomorrow, and, well, they’ll prolly agree to pay down the debt he incurred wasting everyone’s time over the past couple of months and work towards incorporating many of his good ideas into the platform and hopefully stop the bullshit rhetoric about blowing up Philly.

Sanders 2016 is an ex-parrot, but hopefully many of his ideas will continue on and become part of the Democratic platform and his supporters will join the party and help move us forward and past der Trumpenfuhrer.

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  3. 3.

    Corner Stone

    Honestly I could not be erred to give a shit if BS wanted to continue all the way through to the convention. This was over after MA. That’s just a fact.
    But I am slowly growing godsdamned tired that this fucking guy continues to demand larger and larger chunks of how the D party progresses into the general and who their personnel are/will be.
    You lost rumplesuitskin.

  6. 6.

    p.a.

    Everyone knows DC doesn’t count. Deesn’t even have a Rep. Curious, that. Some sort of historical anomaly, possibly relating to demographics. Probably should be some sort of investigation to understand it.

  12. 12.

    gf120581

    Actually, I think Sanders is meeting with Hillary now. Hope she makes it clear that whatever leverage he thought he had is now nonexistent.

  15. 15.

    Thoughtful David

    Sanders is still managing to tick me off, though, with his speech today where he claimed that the civil rights and women’s rights movements came about because “we” pushed for them. It was actually because DEMOCRATS pushed for those things. Yeah, I know Sanders has been on our side and pushed for these things too, but his effort to diminish the role of Democrats is very irritating. Had it been Sanders alone, his little Independent-y self, none of those things would have happened. It was because Democrats have been pushing for these things that they’ve happened. He needs to get over himself.

  16. 16.

    Corner Stone

    @gf120581:

    Actually, I think Sanders is meeting with Hillary now. Hope she makes it clear that whatever leverage he thought he had is now nonexistent.

    I hope she has a large signing book for the Vince Foster funeral on the coffee table.

  19. 19.

    maya

    @p.a.: Yes. They have no representation, but they are taxed anyway. Tyranny! Washington D.C. should secede from the union, or, become a political Vatican City with their own stamps and Post Office..

  21. 21.

    TheMightyTrowel

    @Thoughtful David: Actually, I think you’ll find that democrats eventually got involved but it was because non-white people, women, queer people, etc. – some of whom were essentially banned from voting and thus not party members – pushed for them.

  25. 25.

    Chris

    With Trump’s tiff with Obama and Clinton over Orlando, Sanders is yesterday’s news. The primary is over and the general under way. Sanders is done, he just didn’t realize it.

  27. 27.

    Corner Stone

    @Chris:

    Sanders is done, he just didn’t realize it.

    He realized it. That’s the BS part of the problem.

  30. 30.

    dmsilev

    I wonder whether he understands that the longer he holds out, the less actual leverage he’ll have. Especially for the process-related stuff. I can understand fighting for commitments on platform planks, but declaring holy war in the name of paring back the number of DNC superdelegates? I think most people will look at Sanders, look at Trump, look back and Sanders and just roll their eyes.

  32. 32.

    NotMax

    @p.a.

    Actually, does have a Rep (technically a delegate to the House) and has since 1970. Cannot cast a yea or nay on legislative floor votes but otherwise may vote (in committees and involving procedural matters).

    There’s also a shadow Congressional delegation in D.C., which functions as a lobbying arm for the district.

  33. 33.

    hellslittlestangel

    Sanders 2016 is an ex-parrot…

    This made me laugh out loud. Thank you, JC.

  35. 35.

    dmsilev

    In any event, we’ll find out which way he’s going to jump by Thursday. It took Hillary a couple of days to publicly concede in 2008, though she told Obama a day or so earlier than the public announcement, so it’s fair to give Sanders that long before really slamming him. Of course, one could argue that she won the nomination a week ago, so by the 2008 calendar he should have thrown in the towel last Friday.

  40. 40.

    JCT

    @rikyrah: “I don’t like Hitler comparisons but that was positively like Nuremburg rally level crazy” – and then he backs it up. Good lord , horrifying. Clinton needs to pound this reprobate and his pyschotic supporters into the ground .

    I need a shower just from reading this .

    One thing – they are truly equal opportunity, they seem to hate everyone.

  41. 41.

    NotMax

    Ought to point out that today is Trump’s 70th birthday.

    (If his birth certificate is to be believed.)

  48. 48.

    David ?Canadian Anchor Baby? Koch

    Mr. Obama’s Powerful Words About Terrorism

    New York Times Editorial Board

    President Obama gave the most powerful rebuke yet to the increasingly unreasonable and dangerous ravings of the presumptive Republican presidential nominee, Donald Trump.

    ***

    On Thursday, the president plans to travel to Orlando to bring solace to grieving families and a stricken city. It is all but impossible to imagine the Republicans’ leading presidential contender offering similar leadership, or having the ability to bring unity from tragedy. Which is a sign of how far the party has fallen, behind the banner of Donald Trump.

  49. 49.

    planetjanet

    Can someone tell Sanders how elections work? The Democratic party does not decide on voter registration. It will take 50 state legislatures to enact same day registration. Good luck with that. Similarly, the decision of open or closed primaries is also state law. The convention can’t do a thing about that.

  51. 51.

    JCT

    @NotMax: My eldest called to wish me a happy birthday today and then asked if I knew I shared my b-day with that reprobate, Trump. The horror.

  58. 58.

    dmsilev

    @planetjanet: In California, the open vs closed decision is made by the parties; this year, the Republicans had a closed primary and the Democrats had a semi-open one (Democrats and no-party people could votes, but anyone affiliated with a different party could not). Not sure who makes the decisions for other states.

    In general, though, I’ll take Sanders’ wailing about closed primaries seriously if and only if he starts calling for the abolition of caucuses.

  60. 60.

    Princess

    I think Sanders has waited too long to withdraw and endorse. A huge chunk of his supporters have already gone over to Hillary, happily or grudgingly. Out of what’s left, another block will never vote for her and will hate him for endorsing her. That doesn’t leave much. In order to have leverage into the future, Bernie needed to be perceived as being at the head of a huge army of progressives, leading them into the party to vote for Clinton. He probably would have been more powerful if he had dropped out, say, after NY.

  62. 62.

    dmsilev

    @rikyrah: That was not pleasant to read. Not at all. But very worthwhile, because we all need to understand that this isn’t a joke. Maybe it was at one point, but we’re far beyond that now.

  64. 64.

    magurakurin

    I don’t accept that Sanders brought any new ideas to the party at all. The party has favored universal health care for a long time now. That one particular solution, single payer, isn’t the absolute focus of that goal doesn’t change the fact that all Democrats believe access to health care is a right. And the PPACA has made it an act of law that people are at the least obligated to have coverage, which is a huge step towards it being legally enshrined as a right. Democrats have always supported the minimum wage and increases and attempts to index it to ensure automatic raises. The difference between Sanders 15 dollar proposal and Patty Murray’s 12 dollar proposal Clinton supports is only around the margins. His free college plan is stupid and ill thought out and Obama had been talking about free community college, which makes more sense and Clinton backs, long before Sanders proposed his bullshit fake free college proposal. Clinton’s proposals were solidly liberal when she started and she really didn’t offer anything new in response to Sanders. He just isn’t all that.

    And now his big demands are the removal of the DNC chairwoman Debbie Wasserman Shultz, who is gone after the election anyway; reform of the superdelegate system that everyone wants to do anyway; and allowing independents in partisan party primary elections, which isn’t in the control of the party (states decide voter registration regulations) and is a bad idea anyway. Interestingly he didn’t demand the end of the caucus system…I wonder why?

    again, sadly, I have to say, Fuck Bernie Sanders.

  65. 65.

    Davis X. Machina

    Another primary season, another lukewarm, moderate, soi-disant ‘liberal’ trimmer gets the Democratic nomination.

    Some day an out-and-proud-of-it — politically, not gender-wise — progressive, someone with a history of attachment to left causes and policies, perhaps even a Socialist, will run in the Democratic primaries.

    When that happens, the heretofore silent, naturally social-democratic scores of millions of non-voters out — they have to be out there — there will swamp the process, and create a tsunami of support that will hand that candidate not just the nomination, but the White House.

    A boy can dream….

  67. 67.

    Thoughtful David

    @Baud:
    The whole interview reads that way.
    Maybe I’m too sensitive about this, but here in Virginia this spring a group of Sanders supporters was saying how they “want to push the state to the left.” Well, 3 years ago VA elected a Democratic governor, Lt. Governor, and Atty. Genl., all of whom have significantly pushed some liberal issues. And who was it out knocking on doors and making phone calls to get them elected? Do you think it was any of these Sanders supporters? No, it was not. None of this group I’m talking about lifted a finger except maybe to vote. But they did none of the hard work. Now they’re wanting to criticize those of us who have been slogging away election after election. Fuck that shit.
    And yes, I know that Dems have not always been the first nor always leaders in various liberal causes. But all of the Supreme Court justices and all of the laws passed and regulations written that have made liberal progress have been made by the Democrats. Not the Republicans, not the libertarians, not the Constitution Party, not the Greens, not the Independents. The Democrats.

  68. 68.

    nellcote

    @NotMax:

    Ought to point out that today is Trump’s 70th birthday.

    flags flying at half staff in his honor with a spanking from President Obama this morning for a bonus.

  69. 69.

    planetjanet

    @dmsilev: In Virginia, there is no party registration at all. There is no means for the state to control a closed primary.

  72. 72.

    Chris

    @dmsilev:

    I can relate to it: that was exactly how I felt when reading the comments sections of right wing blogs, years ago. (The summer of 2010 with the “Ground Zero” “Mosque” was especially rich in such material). I still see it on Facebook and Twitter from time to time.

    It’s who they are. It’s who they’ve always been. But now they have a Fuhrer.

  74. 74.

    Mary G

    @rikyrah: Awful

    Crowd member just shouted “gays had it coming”

    Tailgating in parking lots. Vendors selling Hillary Sucks But Not Like Monica shirts. General awfulness.

    Just got told I don’t “look right.”

    <Bragging that he took credentials from WA Post. Crowd yells Kill them all.

  75. 75.

    Aleta

    @rikyrah: Heinous. I hope the brave protestors and the children stayed safe. My blood runs cold at Trump bringing such evil in a crowd to life again.

  77. 77.

    NotMax

    @JCT

    Have a happy. You deserve it.

    (It’s also Flag Day and the 241st anniversary of the creation of the U.S. Army (originally the American Continental Army).)

  78. 78.

    redshirt

    @Chris: Thank Gads FSM he cannot rally his own legitimate organization with an armed wing totally prepared for violence. He’s all bluster to date and maybe existing racist groups rally to his banner, but they were already racist fucks and useless.

  80. 80.

    nutella

    @Davis X. Machina:

    Some day an out-and-proud-of-it … progressive, someone with a history of attachment to left causes and policies, perhaps even a Socialist, will run in the Democratic primaries.

    That will be a big change from that anti-gun-control, pro-military-intervention, anti-immigration reform guy this year who said he was progressive.

  82. 82.

    Carolina Dave

    @rikyrah: Yes here in my town. Positive news, estimated 5200 attendees. Venue holds 6k+. Most of the attendees or whack jobs, were from out of town. A lot from Southern Virginia. Me I went to a baseball game and ate Thai food.

  85. 85.

    SiubhanDuinne

    @Omnes Omnibus:

    Seething inchoate rage. I have to, I want to, believe that maybe there is some way to capture and direct that rage into constructive channels, but if there is, I don’t know what it looks like or how to make it happen. But I have to agree with dmsilev that we need to read this and other accounts to reinforce that Trump is no longer a joke (if he ever was).

  90. 90.

    dogwood

    @Omnes Omnibus:
    I disagree. There’s nothing wrong with some ridicule, but the democrats better be very clear how dangerous this man is; it’s not a joke anymore. Every republican running for office needs to be tied to this man and the horrific things he says. This is serious business not entertainment. Let the comedians mock him non stop.

  92. 92.

    Omnes Omnibus

    @dogwood: People won’t vote for a person who is a joke. What Clinton, Obama, and Warren are doing right now is perfect.

  93. 93.

    the Conster, la Citoyenne

    @magurakurin:

    Seriously. Bernie lost the plot early on. When he got called out on the “how” of things, he had nothing to offer, and started flailing around. It turned into the cult of Birdie, and as time has gone on, he’s come up small. He’s a small man as it turns out. He’s got a very narrow window now to do the right thing for the country, but I don’t think he’s up to it. He’s a narcissist like Trump.

  95. 95.

    Mnemosyne

    @dogwood:

    I disagree, because the surest way to drive a dangerous person nuts and peel off their followers is to mock them. If Trump is a laughingstock, nobody’s going to vote for him.

    There’s a difference between not taking someone seriously and deliberately undermining someone using humor. I think both Obama and Clinton take the threat of Trump very seriously, but they also know that the best way to undermine him and his support is by using humor.

  96. 96.

    the Conster, la Citoyenne

    @Thoughtful David:

    …all of the Supreme Court justices and all of the laws passed and regulations written that have made liberal progress have been made by the Democrats. Not the Republicans, not the libertarians, not the Constitution Party, not the Greens, not the Independents. The Democrats.

    Just want to see that in print again.

  97. 97.

    the Conster, la Citoyenne

    I saw a poll that has Hillary ahead of Trump in Kansas. We need to keep the pedal to the medal and all get behind Team Hillary.

  101. 101.

    dm

    @planetjanet: well, the Democratic party can make same day registration a goal in its platform. I doubt Sanders will have to push hard for that. But I think he’s been building his portfolio — building up his delegate count in order for his supporters to have some say (and investment) in the future of the party. And maybe to keep Hillary from naming Jim Manchin or Rahm Emmanuel or DWS as VP. Remember Al Gore’s choice of Joe Lieberman?

  102. 102.

    Omnes Omnibus

    @dm:

    And maybe to keep Hillary from naming Jim Manchin or Rahm Emmanuel or DWS as VP.

    What about HRC’s 2016 campaign gives you any indication that she might do anything like that? The idea is asinine.

  106. 106.

    terry chay

    Sanders ends his campaign the way he started it: a bunch of feel-good empty promises but no actual workable plan.

    Keep on “fighting,” white boy!

  107. 107.

    Miss Bianca

    @Thoughtful David: Even in what I had considered to be my “safe space” on FB – a friend’s group where we post political stuff – I was confronted with some woman whining that she wished Hillary Clinton was “a true Democrat”. I lost it. I absolutely lost it. Then I thought, “forget it, MB. It’s Facebook. There *is* no safe space from cluelessness.”

  109. 109.

    Omnes Omnibus

    @Miss Bianca: It is really weird, but I have very few FB people who are RWNJs. Very little politics on my FB, and what I do see tends to be vaguely pro-Hillary. I have muted my gun-nut cousin and my libertarian frat-bro. But that’s it.

  110. 110.

    dogwood

    @Omnes Omnibus:
    I guess you watched something different than I did. Over the last two days Clinton and Obama weren’t mocking or ridiculing Trump. They were laying down the law. We aren’t going to win this with ridicule alone.

  111. 111.

    Miss Bianca

    @Omnes Omnibus: This would be a Sanders True Believer, I think. Of which I had a fair number counted among friends and acquaintances. Hard to say how many still bending that way now – I’ve stopped looking at FB for anything. And I was only on there today to post a photo of the office kittens. Should have left it at that.

  112. 112.

    Omnes Omnibus

    @dogwood: I guess we interpreted it differently. I think we watch the same things. I also think that you missed my point. People don’t vote for laughingstocks. Trump is on his way to being one. If he is, he will not win.

  113. 113.

    Omnes Omnibus

    @Miss Bianca: Me. I look at it to see how my nephew and niece are doing in various sports thingies.

    ETA: Or other good things about the kids.

  114. 114.

    terry chay

    @dm:

    And maybe to keep Hillary from naming Jim Manchin or Rahm Emmanuel or DWS as VP. Remember Al Gore’s choice of Joe Lieberman?

    Not going to happen. You actually think the Democratic Party has learned NOTHING since the 90’s? Every loss was a very expensive lesson.

  118. 118.

    different-church-lady

    You know how you can tell it’s really really over for Bernie? Only one of our reliable Sanders trolls is pushing back on this front-pager troll.

  119. 119.

    ET

    I live in DC and someone why I bothered to vote (I voted early because I wasn’t I was getting back in time to vote) and this was why. I wanted to put the period at the end of the sentence. That and I live in a hipster paradise- I thought Bernie would have pulled in more votes. Maybe he lost some votes because the writing was on the wall?

  120. 120.

    Matt McIrvin

    @Omnes Omnibus: I muted most of the vocal wingers on my Facebook feed; the political activity there is much more Berniac than anything else, with some of them now making calls for Democratic unity, and one nihilist/anarchist Hillary-hater now cheering for Trump to burn the country down.

  126. 126.

    Miss Dashwood

    Bernie is “all mouth and no trousers” (as the Brits say). His purported demands are nonsensical and the longer he holds out without a concession the more damage he does to his own political future. The time to graciously bow out on his own terms passed long ago.

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