Just came across this via the Twitter machine, and thought both “how very English,” and how much on target it is:
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There is an American-English version of this, but I prefer the dulcet tones organized by the Thames Valley Police.
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Just showed this to my teenager. Now it’s off to celebrate Father’s Day at Venice Beach, on the first leg of a dad-lad summer road trip.
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Open thread!
redshirt
How awesome! Have a great time on your trip Tom, and appreciate every moment!
PST
I first saw this a couple of days ago. I’m sure my British friends would pronounce it brilliant.
Randy P
I can’t remember what trail of links I followed to that, but I’ve seen it. It may have been part of our required sexual harassment training.
At any rate, I agree. It’s wonderfully effective. Unconscious people do not want tea.
I'mNotSureWhoIWantToBeYet
Excellent. That should be required viewing, multiple times, by everyone while they’re going through school. It should become second nature.
Cheers,
Scott.
trollhattan
Clever. Accents make most things better. My nav GPS is Sheila, the Aussie.
“Re, CAl cue lating”
Mnemosyne
I don’t remember how old your son is, but you may need to have an explanation ready for what that weird smell is at Venice, because it ain’t patchouli.
germy
Project Consent has done some nice animations:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BHkUczVRHSM
germy
and this
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GtY7QeI_rCU
Major Major Major Major
I’ve never understood what’s so difficult about this.
Road trip! Awesome! Drive safe! My dad and I did a leisurely Denver-to-SF-and-back trip after college. Took I-80 on the way out and Highway 50 on the way back. Super cool.
Comrade Mary
Did the narrator just announce that he was going off for a wank at the end of that?
muddy
I post this list online quite a bit, particularly when the conversation turns to, “But she was drinking..”:
SEXUAL ASSAULT PREVENTION TIPS GUARANTEED TO WORK
1. Don’t put drugs into people’s drinks in order to control their behavior.
2. When you see someone walking by themselves, leave them alone.
3. If you pull over to help someone with car trouble, remember to not assault them.
4. Never open an unlocked window or door uninvited.
5. If you are in an elevator with someone else, don’t assault them.
6. Remember, people go to the laundry to do their laundry; do not attempt to molest someone who is alone in a laundry room.
7. Use the buddy system. If you are not able to stop yourself from assaulting people, ask a friend to stay with you while you are at a bar or party.
8. Always be honest. Don’t pretend to be a caring friend in order to gain the trust of someone you want to assault. Consider telling them you plan to assault them. If you don’t communicate your intentions, the other person may take that as a sign that you do not plan to rape them.
9. Don’t forget: you cannot have sex with someone unless that person is awake.
10. Carry a whistle. If you are afraid you might assault someone accidentally, you can hand it to the person and they can blow it if you start an assault.
Isobel
@Comrade Mary: My thoughts exactly. Perfect ending to that video.
Peale
@Comrade Mary: which is much more appropriate response in the end than getting angry with someone who said “no thank you” to tea.
satby
Love this (up top), shared it on FB a week ago. Well done.
And I have been remiss: Happy Father’s Day to all you dads out there in Juiceland, and to honorary dad mentors like John Cole too. There’s no more important work than raising a small human to adulthood.
Bob
Kinks –
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lw6qxDPmOGM
Shelley
@muddy: Excellent
humboldtblue
USMNT captain Michael Bradley wore a rainbow armband in honor of the Orlando victim, here are some of the details about how they got it made and onto his arm before kickoff of the match against Ecuador.
WaterGirl
@satby: It truly does take a village.
RaflW
That video is great.
redshirt
Does anyone have any good (and cheap) home cooling tips? I’m looking to expand my game.
WaterGirl
@RaflW: Did you get your “evil auto-run video” problem worked out?
bemused
Brilliant!
Brachiator
Happy Father’s Day to all who are celebrating or remembering.
SiubhanDuinne
This is the third or fourth time I’ve seen the “Consent” PSA. It’s wonderfully well done.
Just saw an ad that made me laugh out loud: A clean, simple blue background with a clean, simple message at the top: “To all those who use our competitors’ products: Happy Father’s Day.”
And waaaaay down at the bottom of the page, a small discreet logo:
Corner Stone
Did my Father’s Day stuff yesterday due to scheduling conflicts. Really low key and it worked for everyone so that was good. The kid and I went to the local pool today but got kicked out due to thunder concerns. That was ok as we had been there a couple hours by then, and there’s only so much you can take. Our power went out a few hours ago and I heard the transformer blow so no telling how long that’s going to take. Our local utility had previously ETA of about 20 mins ago but so far no juice.
In other words, a pretty good weekend but if they don’t get this power thing sorted we’re heading to a hotel as it was 97 here yesterday and felt like 107. No want.
Iowa Old Lady
@redshirt: Exhaust fan in an upstairs window to blow out hot air and draw in cool overnight? We had that in the first house we owned and it worked well. That fan had blades a yard long.
Luthe
They need to show this to high school and college kids, especially the males. Repeatedly. Possibly Clockwork Orange style.
Corner Stone
Speaking of Father’s Day, I believe it is every father’s duty to clearly and repeatedly have the discussion on consent and respect early and often with their kids, especially boys. Mine is 11 and we have already gone over the entry level aspects, to the point where his RN mom has been like, “Is there no filter on that mouth of yours?”
Tom Levenson
@Mnemosyne: He’s sixteen. There are a couple of known locations around our neighborhood where some of our local in-search-of-mellow folks repair. Not news to the boy.
(Also — he’s been going to Venice in the course of LA excursions to visit family for a long time. His drug-of-choice there? The mini donuts made on the spot at a little shop a short ways up the boardwalk. Our destination this afternoon.)
redshirt
@Iowa Old Lady: Even during the day?
Keith G
I just saw Anton Yelchin has died. I liked his work.
Corner Stone
@Tom Levenson: Road trip sounds nice but damn, right in the middle of this heat wave. MA to CA?
Do you have a ’68 GTO convertible I hope?
Tom Levenson
@Major Major Major Major: LA hangout for a couple of days, a few days up at Sequoia and Kings Canyon NPs, then to the bay area (my birthplace!) and some family stuff and at least one trip up to Point Reyes. Much fun.
A little truncated compared to our usual summer road trips. Last year we flew into Grand Junction, CO, and then toured through Mesa Verde, Arches, Canyonlands, Capitol Reef, Bryce and Zion, before a float in the giant flowing pool at the MGM Grand in Vegas, followed by a quick hop to SF and a drive up to Lassen National Park, before doing the Bay Area family thing again. Now that was a trip. Southern Utah is where you go when hallucinogens have lost their punch.
Roger Moore
@Luthe:
I think it would also help to replace the old “no means no” messaging with “only yes means yes”. It’s reasonably snappy, and it gets across the important point that you actually need positive consent, not just a lack of active resistance, for sex.
Mnemosyne
@Tom Levenson:
I took my nephew and two nieces there last summer. The 16-year-old and 15-year-old knew what it was, but we weren’t quite sure what to tell the 9-year-old when she asked. I think I went for the old I’m not sure dodge.
Corner Stone
What are the three scariest words in the power utility lexicon? “Pending Further Assessment”
Roger Moore
@Tom Levenson:
Watch out for the heat. It’s expected to be a real scorcher today, even at the beaches, and even hotter tomorrow.
Iowa Old Lady
@redshirt: Ours was on a timer to run overnight. It blew out that top layer of hot air. We left the other windows open and cool night air flowed in to fill the space.
We left windows open in the morning until it got warmer outside than in. Then we closed the windows and drew the shades.
You can also have a tabletop fan blowing over a dish of ice during the day.
Also, I recall spending time sitting on a lawn chair with my feet in the kiddie pool and a cool drink.
Brachiator
@Keith G:
Very sad. Apparently died in an auto accident. Only 27. Plays Chekhov in the upcoming Star Trek movie.
divF
In my misspent youth, I used to take regular backpacking trips to the desert in the winter. I spent one week walking through Canyonlands and reading Gravity’s Rainbow (it was the only way I could get through the book).
redshirt
@Brachiator: Speaking of, I caught most of the movie “Furious 7” the other week and it left me all kinds of confused. I get what genre the movie is in (car based fantasy), but SPOILER ALERT – the ending of the movie is a tribute to the lead actor who died in a manner glorified in the movie, right?
Roger Moore
@Keith G:
In much happier news, sources are reporting that Clarence Thomas is mulling retirement. Let it be so.
divF
@Corner Stone:
They used to say that the seven scariest words for GOP operatives in the 1980’s to see in the newspaper were, “The President, departing from his prepared remarks”.
Mnemosyne
@Brachiator:
I just saw the story and it was a weird freak accident where the parking brake on his car failed while he was behind it. The kind of thing that makes me wonder if the ancient Greeks weren’t right and once Atropos decides where to cut your thread, that’s the end.
redshirt
@divF: That sounds magical. And yeah, that’s a tough read.
rikyrah
Donald Trump calls profiling Muslims ‘common sense’
Source: Washington Post
After doubling down on his proposal to ban immigrants from countries with a history of terrorism, Donald Trump is now doubling down on another controversial idea in the wake of the Orlando massacre: profiling Muslims already in the United States.
In an interview with CBS’s John Dickerson that aired Sunday on “Face the Nation,” Trump called profiling Muslims “common sense.”
“Well, I think profiling is something that we’re going to have to start thinking about as a country,” he said when Dickerson asked Trump whether he still supports the idea, which he has floated before. “And other countries do it; you look at Israel and you look at others and they do it and they do it successfully. You know, I hate the concept of profiling. But we have to start using common sense, and we have to use, you know, we have to use our heads…we really have to look at profiling. We have to look at it seriously. “
Shelley
Feel a bit sorry for those at home. Can yo u imagine having that guy hanging around the house all day long?
Iowa Old Lady
@Shelley: He says he likes to spend summers in his RV with his wife. Can you imagine? I’ve never understood the appeal of RVs. You can pay for a lot of hotel rooms with what the costs you. And then you’re dragging around this huge thing.
trollhattan
@Shelley:
Ginny will insist on doing all the bartending.
the Conster, la Citoyenne
I guess this PSA is great – it’s simple enough that even a 10 year old (boy) can understand it, which I guess is what we need now. But, it just blows my mind that there’s a level of male entitlement in place that requires pointing out such obvious sexist bullshit and objectification of women, to **ostensibly** adult men. It makes me wonder how the men who need this PSA to understand that their entitlement needs to be questioned, are raised. The more female leaders in every position in business, politics and culture, the better for all of us. Especially Pakistan (pace Bhutto), where my twitter feed tells me that a mother set her daughter on fire for disobeying and wanting to be with a man she wanted to be with. That’s fucked up and bullshit, even for Pakistan.
raven
@Iowa Old Lady:
Baud
@the Conster, la Citoyenne:
One message was missing:
Just because they like to drink someone else’s tea doesn’t mean you can force them to drink your tea.
Iowa Old Lady
@raven: Good point.
rikyrah
These Photos Show Why You Should Celebrate Juneteenth
It’s America’s second Independence Day, and it’s lit.
06/18/2016 07:01 am ET
hovercraft
@Roger Moore:
Would that it could be so. He is a disgrace, that republicans dare to mention him as the successor to Thurgood Marshall, shows their total misunderstanding of black people. To most black people Marshall is up there with MLK, thomas is seen as a sellout. Unfortunately I don’t think he would ever retire with Hillary as president, he and his wife are way too wingnutty to let that happen. Ginny Thomas is much too unhinged to give any smidgeon of influence to the evil democrats. I think her activities as an activist give lie to the court being apolitical.
But hey a girl can wish.
the Conster, la Citoyenne
@Baud:
Yes. Even if they liked everyone else’s tea but not yours, you can’t make them drink yours.
mdblanche
Tea and consent may not seem like a hard concept, but Mrs. Doyle still hasn’t mastered it.
eclare
@WaterGirl: I was having (I think) the same problem on several web sites, and I run FF and Win10. I followed efgoldman’s advice on Shockwave and problem seems to be fixed. It looked like I had an old version and new, I bet the old was mucking things up by trying to run along with the new.
hovercraft
@the Conster, la Citoyenne:
To see how they are raised look no further than the Stanford rapists father, why should his life be ruined for 20 minutes of activity, and the mother fretting about decorating the new house.
And then there is this mornings horror show in PA, where a 51 year old man had a houseful of young girls in the home, the oldest of whom is 18 and the mother of his two kids 3 and 6 months old. And the girl was reportedly ‘gifted’ to him at age 14 by her parents for helping them with their finances. I would call that a sale, but that’s me. These sociopaths are everywhere, unfortunately.
Leto
OT, but a worthwhile read: The Slave-State Origins of Modern Gun Rights:
The idea that citizens have an unfettered constitutional right to carry weapons in public originates in the antebellum South, and its culture of violence and honor.
maya
@Shelley:
He wouldn’t be hanging around much, there are 6 packs of Coke that need to be gotten.
trollhattan
@efgoldman:
Drunk-dialing Anita Hill was pure sociopathy. And a tell, but “these people” don’t do nuance.
jayboat
@Iowa Old Lady:
Convenience is a big factor, plus there aren’t always hotel rooms nearby where you might want to be.
I owned one for a few years and loved it, plan to get another within the year and do some real exploring.
My first trip was a 14-day excursion to Key West from North Carolina. You don’t experience any road rash, there’s no packing and unpacking, you’ve got your bed, your bathroom etc. Not for everyone, sure- but if I had my druthers…
Roger Moore
@Iowa Old Lady:
It’s a lifestyle thing. If you actually use an RV enough for it to be a major part of your lifestyle, it can be a reasonable deal. Also, FWIW, you can take an RV places where there aren’t any hotels available.
Ruckus
@Iowa Old Lady:
I had neighbor kids growing up whose mom put a bowl of ice in front of a fan. Worked pretty good. We had an old spanish style house with thick walls and tile roof. It stayed pretty cool in there without any fans.
trollhattan
@efgoldman:
If you pay attention to the ads, each night in your RV is spent on the shore of an otherwise unoccupied lake in a national park. Much better than an I-80 Travelodge, next to the ice machine.
Brachiator
@redshirt:
A very, very odd way of looking at it.
burnspbesq
@redshirt:
Don’t cool the house, cool your core. Ice cream works best.
maya
@redshirt: As a teen in Jersey, we had one of those 4′ square exhaust fans in a window cabinet up on the third floor, which was a finished attic. It became my room and that fan used to be on all night long about 6′ away from my bed during the summer months. I got so used to the noise, which was just a loud whirring, that when the fall months arrived and it wasn’t necessary anymore, I had difficulty sleeping.
They do a good job of bringing nice fresh cool air in. ACs can be rather stifling. I have never had one and don’t need one here in NorCal.
Davis X. Machina
In the winter the old timers here say ‘If your feet are cold, put on a hat’.
Apparently this works in both directions.
redshirt
@Brachiator: How so? He died speeding in a high end car, right? Which as I gather, was the main attraction of those movies – high end cars speeding.
the Conster, la Citoyenne
@hovercraft:
The blind privileged entitlement that social status conveys is a sickness of our age. I saw today that pedophiles can order sex dolls that are female children. I assume male children are an option too. What money, privilege and lack of empathy does to people is beyond my pay grade to apprehend.
redshirt
@Davis X. Machina: Who says that? Why wouldn’t you put on socks? And why did you ever take your hat off in the first place?
Brachiator
@Mnemosyne: From the Guardian.
Apparently friends found him when he failed to attend a rehearsal earlier in the day. Just horrible, if these are the facts. This sounds consistent with a failure to set the parking brake.
redshirt
@maya: I’ve been habituated to the noise of a fan since I was five. It’s pathetic now – I’m traveling tomorrow and I’m packing a small fan. Just for the noise.
eclare
@redshirt: I’m the same way, and I know others who are. I wonder if there is an app that mimics fan noise?
ETA: yes, both Android and Apple
ETA 2: “Please note, due to a high number of comments in reviews for this app, we feel the need to state that Sleep Fan does not actually blow air.”
SMH
WaterGirl
@Baud: You are oh so right. This is why we need Baud! 2016, even if it appears that will not come to pass.
redshirt
@eclare: I’ve tried sound machines. It’s not the same. In fact, many fans are not the same. So I’ve become a fan snob. At the height of my “habituation” (I’ve scaled back since), I’d sleep with 3 fans, each a different size and thus noise and I’d create this fan symphony that was perfect.
Hell, I’d buy an antique metal blade fan if I could be convinced it would run for at least 10 years.
Ben Cisco
Got my yearly calls from my nieces/grandnieces/grandnephew. Mrs. C and I always got these calls on Mothers/Fathers Day; today was the first time I was alone to receive them. Bittersweet, but I am also informed that I am going to be a great-granduncle (?). Ultrasound looked, well, as all ultrasounds do. Circle of life and so forth…
J R in WV
@redshirt:
Exhaust fan on whenever it is cooler outside than it is inside. All night into the morning at least, if it cooled off enough at night. We don’t need A/C until late afternoon most days even in mid-summer. I do have a shop with exhaust fans blowing out the space under the roof whenever the thermometer in that space hits 95 or so, to minimize heat damage up there. No A/C out there.
I looked at the power bill closely the other day, as solar installers are coming tomorrow to prep an estimate. This is for a power plant feeding the grid to minimize our power bills, so no battery bank. Saving quite a bit of money there, electrical storage is still twentieth century. Maybe even 19th!
I was surprised to see the power bill was highest last February by quite a bit, I expected it to soar in mid-June-July-August-Sept or so from A/C use. But we do use some spot heaters in part of the winter, so that’s probably what did it last winter, which was typically frigid.
The power drop for the well is the best, like $9 a month for two families, even in the winter when a space heater runs in the well house. The shop/garage uses resistance heat in the winter, but set to around 40 degrees, so still not too bad. R-38 or so in that building.
L&DinSLT
@Tom Levenson:
maya
@eclare: Here you go –
Iowa Old Lady
@Ben Cisco: That’s wonderful! I’ll bet they’ve been thinking about you.
redshirt
@J R in WV: I do this religiously. I cooled my house to 59 last night just by opening all the windows and using some fans to create a cross breeze, then sealed everything up at dawn. It’s 88 degrees outside but only 71 upstairs right now.
maya
Try again
Well links ain’t my game today. But yes there are many apps for fan noise, including soccer/football fans.
rikyrah
@redshirt:
Only personal cooling. Frozen bottles of water put on key pressure points of the body. I definitely use this at night if I want any sleep. By the time it wears off, and you wake up hot, the bottle has melted to nice cold water, drink it and here comes the rest of the night’s sleep.
Iowa Old Lady
@redshirt: Sounds like you’re doing great already. I take it you’re caught in an unexpected heatwave?
Mnemosyne
@eclare:
Sleep Fan is great — I use it when traveling. It came in very handy last year when I was staying in hotel rooms with my mom. It turns out that we both snore.
And it doesn’t use much battery power even if you run it for 8 or 9 hours.
ETA: I like the noise of a fan, not the actual breeze.
redshirt
@Iowa Old Lady: Yeah. I’ve been following your advice for a while. I’m just hoping there’s some super advanced technique I’ve never heard of.
For instance, cheap “swamp coolers” – drench a shirt in cold water, wring it out a bit, then secure and hang over a fan for extra cooling.
redshirt
@rikyrah: That’s great advice! Doesn’t your bed get wet though?
Suzanne
@redshirt: Put in a misting system, or just spray the air with a water sprayer.
Iowa Old Lady
@Mnemosyne: I wear earplugs to sleep because my husband snores very loudly. Are you saying fan noise would work? I’m a little concerned because I think years of earplug wear have damaged the hearing in my left ear. Or I’m just getting old, I suppose.
eclare
@Mnemosyne: Great to know! Went on vacation with a friend last summer, wow, the snoring. How it didn’t wake her up I’ll never know.
redshirt
@Suzanne: I was hoping you’d respond to this! Is a misting system for inside your house or just an outdoor patio? I’d worry about spraying water onto rugs and furniture, etc.
Also, can you even cool your house overnight by opening windows? Or is it still too hot outside?
redshirt
@Mnemosyne: I don’t like the breeze either.
I’m downloading the app. If this works for me, I’ll owe you a huge thanks.
raven
I’ve burned through two of these in the last 17 years:
http://www.hammacher.com/Product/86172?cm_cat=ProductSEM&cm_pla=AdWordsPLA&source=PRODSEM&gclid=CL6vxpv6tM0CFcgjgQodOQENPw
BillCinSD
@efgoldman:
well there was to be the Verdier Westfalia, a Canadian made RV based on a classic VW design with a 4 cylinder hybrid and a 170 Watt solar panel, but it looks like the financial crash may have ended this. Winnebago and Fleetwood were working on them at that time, too.
There also appear to be kits to make your RV a hybrid
hovercraft
@the Conster, la Citoyenne:
Well this is a good outcome.
We need to raise more women of strength like her and the Stanford survivor. Until we get rid of the belief that certain people have a right to our bodies and do not need our consent.
gogol's wife
Thames Valley Police! That’s Morse & Lewis’s outfit! I love them!
smith
@gogol’s wife: Morse and Lewis are among my favorites too. Amazing how many murderous psychopaths they have on the faculty at Oxford. Do you suppose there’s an Inspector Hathaway series in the future?
Redshift
Twitter is abuzz with a report that Clarence Thomas is considering retiring after the election. However, it’s from an anonymous source quoted in the Washington Examiner, so it’s probably just clickbait.
gogol's wife
@smith:
The fans always wonder about that, but somehow I don’t think it’s going to happen. New Endeavour tonight, though!
the Conster, la Citoyenne
@hovercraft:
I wonder if a jury trial is better now going forward in these instances. Male judges seem to be largely suspect. In any event, it infuriates me that grown men, including judges like with the Stanford rape case, need to be treated like little children when told that rape isn’t something they’re entitled to do.
debbie
@hovercraft:
More like, we need to stop the system from prosecuting the victim.
Suzanne
@redshirt: It’s too hot here to open windows at night. Thanks to urban heat island effect, we’re starting to have the occasional 100-degree night.
The misting system is for outside spaces but if you get a good breeze going, you can open a door or a window and the cool air will come in.
More sophisticated strategies would be like a Trombe wall or earth coupling or high-mass building envelope or the water bag roof.
None of the evaporative strategies should be used if the dew point is over 50.
Suzanne
@debbie: it’s really hard to keep the system from prosecuting the victim (great way to phrase it, BTW) when it’s still socially acceptable to openly doubt victims the way we do.
“I wa robbed last night.”
“Oh, that SUCKS! I’m sorry!”
“My car got stolen.”
“Oh wow, sorry!”
“I was raped after a party.”
“You sure? What were you drinking? What were you wearing? Your story doesn’t check out.”
redshirt
@Suzanne: Wowzers! 100 at night!
Theoretical question for you: Do geothermal systems work in your area? What do you think about an air only goethermal system? That is, a well dug deep, and then a fan system designed to draw air from that well and then pumped into your house.
debbie
@the Conster, la Citoyenne:
Honestly, I don’t think this will make the slightest difference.
redshirt
@Suzanne: What’s a “Water bag roof”? Google is giving me no good answers.
debbie
@redshirt:
When I was a kid my mom used to put a bowl of ice in front of the window fan. If you have window fans and windows on opposite sides, you can draw in air from the cooler side by directing the fan outward on the warmer side. I did this often in NYC, but you have to not mind feeling the breeze.
ixnay
@burnspbesq: I have very recently (after damaging a wrist) become a big fan of the old-fashioned ice pack: the one that you see in cartoons being held to an aching head. They’re great, and can be moved around as needed.
eclare
@redshirt: Is an attic fan an option for you? Those are the best, as long as it gets cool at night and you can open windows, which it sounds like you can.
rikyrah
@hovercraft:
Lawd hammercy.
Uh uh uh
hovercraft
@debbie:
I hope that eventually it will. My theory is that as there are more of us in positions of power fear of the consequences will act as a deterrent. I theorize that women in today fear that if they voice greater support for survivors they are judged as being suspect. Remember a lot of the animosity towards Hillary is based on the fact that she was a woman who was perceived as being too pushy and aggressive because she fought for womens’ causes. If we are more prominent my hope is that being a strong advocate will be a virtue not a vice. Society will tolerate successful women as long as they know their place, we need to change where that place is and then things will get better.
rikyrah
@redshirt:
I only use two bottles.
Yeah, but….I gotta sleep….in some sort of comfort..LOL
redshirt
@eclare: I don’t have an attic and yeah, I can get a nice cross breeze going at night.
I spent a poor summer in Albuquerque way back when and it was absolutely miserable. No AC, and no screens on the windows so if you opened them, you’d be filled with bugs. Hell, you couldn’t even take a cold shower as there was no cold water, only luke warm.
A swamp cooler helped a bit.
eclare
@redshirt: Prob more than you want to spend, but I live in Memphis in an old house and I get by with window units. They really aren’t that expensive anymore, you can get a small one for around $200. And that is where I get my noise at night too. But, a judgement call, because once it is in the window, the window is effectively closed.
hovercraft
@rikyrah:
The story has been updated
Why have children in the first place?
redshirt
@eclare: Oh, I’ve got a kick ass geothermal AC system that can almost make my house as cold as I want regardless of the outside temp (this starts to not be true around mid 90’s). It doesn’t cost a lot to run either, I just don’t want to run it at all. Feels like wimping out.
the Conster, la Citoyenne
@debbie:
I’d like empirical proof.
rikyrah
For Hamilton Fans
Some clips.
eclare
@redshirt: Got it, a matter of principal. I’d go with ice, in front of fans, maybe an icepack around your neck. Bag of frozen peas might work better for that. Good luck! I’m weak, I give in.
rikyrah
@hovercraft:
Evil evil evil
through and through.
Jack the Second
@efgoldman: I wonder if the electric RV is actually that big of a challenge. You already have RV sites with electric hookups, so charging the car batteries at the same time seems pretty feasible — as long as you park it in places equipped for RVs.
In a similar vein, I’m kind of surprised that you don’t have more electric farm equipment. Most farm equipment doesn’t ever leave its home farm, so you never need to worry about charging it “on the road”. You also don’t quite have the same weight restrictions as you do on road vehicles (it is not uncommon to add more weight to a tractor to give it more traction), so slapping a thousand pounds or more of batteries on a tractor shouldn’t be impossible.
Brachiator
I had to go outside here in Southern California. It is hot. Smoke and soot from a fire also in the air.
Kiwanda
The video was fine, but if the possibility of doing prison time is not a deterrent for someone, it’s hard to see how a genteel consciousness-raising video is going to help. (“Oh now I get it! Sexual assault is *unmannerly*!”)
Fortunately, there was nothing in the video about the claims by some people that women, while in general competent adult human beings, are in a sexual setting passive ninnies incapable of communicating their preferences, who must be prodded, again and again and again, to verify their “affirmative consent”.
redshirt
@eclare: I like the ice in front of fans idea.
Fans by themselves don’t cool anything – in fact they heat things up due to the heat of their motor. However, fans pushing air over skin can create a cooling effect due to evaporation on the skin. Adding ice would increase this effect substantially it seems like.
rikyrah
Sanders collides with black lawmakers
The Congressional Black Caucus ‘vehemently’ opposes Sanders’ call to abolish superdelegates.
By DANIEL STRAUSS 06/19/16 04:17 PM EDT
Bernie Sanders is on a crash course with the Congressional Black Caucus.
In a letter sent to both the Sanders and Hillary Clinton campaigns, the CBC is expressing its resolute opposition to two key reforms demanded by Sanders in the run-up to the Democratic convention: abolishing the party’s superdelegate system and opening Democratic primaries up to independents and Republicans.
“The Democratic Members of the Congressional Black Caucus recently voted unanimously to oppose any suggestion or idea to eliminate the category of Unpledged Delegate to the Democratic National Convention (aka Super Delegates) and the creation of uniform open primaries in all states,” says the letter, which was obtained by POLITICO. “The Democratic Party benefits from the current system of unpledged delegates to the National Convention by virtue of rules that allow members of the House and Senate to be seated as a delegate without the burdensome necessity of competing against constituents for the honor of representing the state during the nominating process.”
rikyrah
Nakia
@ZoraToniMaya
Can we talk about how San Jose is trying to rebrand Juneteenth as something that it aint? Can we?
Black & Divine @OHTheMaryD
Juneteenth is abt ONLY 1 motherfucking thing: slaves in Galveston, TX finding out they were freed 2 yrs after the Emancipation Proclamation
Black & Divine @OHTheMaryD
#Juneteenth is NOT multi-cultural. It is at its very core and essence, American Blackness.
Black & Divine @OHTheMaryD
You will NOT take away and whitewash our history. I’ll fucking die before I let you bastards do that
Black & Divine @OHTheMaryD
And fuck @DrJillStein and her campaign for that Juneteenth pic of a room full of White people. HOW OBLIVIOUS CAN YOU POSSIBLY FUCKING BE?!
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Mikki Kendall @Karnythia
Dear white people Juneteenth is not about you in any positive way. Like..come on now.
Mikki Kendall @Karnythia
How do you erase Black people from a holiday they created to celebrate being free? How?
debbie
@the Conster, la Citoyenne:
I don’t mean this to be argumentative, but do you have proof that women in power do make a difference? I don’t. I see women managers where I work often being challenged, if not ignored, by men in their department. I know that London Whale clown totally ignored his female boss and continued to make overly-risky trades. From your post, Bhutto didn’t make a difference for that girl whose mother set her on fire.
Do women have the kind of sensibilities necessary to change all this? Of course. But they don’t have the support from male counterparts and I don’t see that happening in my lifetime.
Pinacacci
@redshirt google roof pond instead. Very interesting.
ETA I do not know how to do the @ thing properly. Sad!
Cat48
Looks like a lot of Bernie supporters spent their weekend in Chicago at a People’s Summit learning protest techniques to be used at the Dem Convention. That doesn’t sound encouraging that all will go smoothly. There’s an article at Buzzfeed.
eclare
@redshirt: Wow, trying now, that does make a difference! Even with A/C I still have little fans to move the air. Whoever suggested first, thank you!
Uncle Cosmo
@redshirt: All windows on the sunny side of the domicile should have awnings set to intercept the midday sun in summer but let lower sunlight in come winter, & should be closed in hot weather, with light-colored shades or blinds drawn to reflect the sunlight. Open the lowest windows on the shady side–ideally in a basement that’s sunk several feet below ground level–place fans set to exhaust in upper windows, close all other windows, & let ’em rip for a draft. Poor man’s ground-source heat-pumping.
Omnes Omnibus
@Pinacacci: Just click on the reply button in the lower right corner of the comment to which you want to reply and FYWP does it for you.
Baud
@Cat48: I wonder which Bro will have the Joe Wilson “You lie!” moment at the DNC.
trollhattan
@Cat48:
If they want to make themselves useful they need to haul their butts to Cleveland.
ruemara
@Ben Cisco: Congrats! As well as consolation.
Been photographing a music festival all day. Bought a CD from nearly every performer today. Too tired to kickbox tonight. Here’s a performance snippet.
satby
@Iowa Old Lady: I use it that method still. Cools the whole house overnight and if I shut the house up it stays a few degrees cooler all day. By the time it’s getting uncomfortable inside, the sun is lower and I can open up the doors and get a breeze again.
SiubhanDuinne
@rikyrah:
Possibly the single most tone-deaf political move I’ve ever seen, and I’ve seen quite a few.
raven
I’ve been tracking this hawk for a couple of days!
satby
@Ben Cisco: Congratulations on the impending arrival! Circle of life indeed.
Baud
@SiubhanDuinne:
Glad to hear you were following my campaign.
Cat48
@Baud:
@trollhatten. This is very new to me & Ive lived thru many elections, Who knew one could just ignore the fact you lost & keep demanding concessions from the Winner? This is very new to me. Don’t get it?
redshirt
@raven: Cool! Tracking like how – are you following her? Or is she near your house?
raven
@redshirt: We have a big stand of trees at the end of the street and another grove where we walk the critters in the morning. I’ve seen the hawk and some owls quite a bit lately. When I see them I grab my camera and get what I can . The owls are even tougher because they don’t move much when the light is good.
Baud
@Cat48: Woman nominee. The rules are different now.
ruemara
@hovercraft: Gawd. But girls are just chattel, boys are prize.
Jeff Spender
@rikyrah: I know people don’t like politico, but I was friends with Daniel Strauss when we were both at U of Michigan. He’s good people.
trollhattan
@satby:
We added a whole-house fan during our bathroom remodel, installed in the center hallway. It pulls air from outside and forces it into the attic and out the vents. By morning the hot air accumulated up there is gone and the house is cool. It only fails us when the overnight temp doesn’t drop enough, but is a great alternative to running the A/C all night.
The challenges of a 90-year old house.
Baud
@raven: There are owls in the park near me. They’re pretty cool.
satby
@raven: he’s a beauty!
raven
@Baud: I’ve posted this before. I got this shot a few years back after the owl was subject to “mobbing” all day. The other species attacked it as it perched and wore all the feathers off of the back of it’s head. It would flinch but, other than that, it just took it.
Glidwrith
@Mnemosyne: @redshirt: I downloaded the ap! Most excellent, one of the fans is a good match for the one I use at night. It also solves the problem of not having something available when traveling.
Many thanks!
Baud
@raven: Amazing.
raven
Here is is being attacked by a bluejay.
trollhattan
@Cat48:
I don’t get it either. With the Trump spectre looming an internecine battle should be the furthest thing from any body’s agenda, but here we are.
I think the 2.5-decade Republican slime campaign actually worked, just not on the expected targets.
Baud
@raven: I didn’t think too many animals messed with owls.
@trollhattan: The appeal of white fascism cuts across ideological lines.
satby
@raven: the poor owl. Jays are pretty but they’re mean SOBs. We had one in the city that used to fly down and peck my kids on the head like that.
redshirt
@raven: Wow! So cool. Other owls or other birds?
redshirt
@satby: Fuck Blue Jays.
satby
@trollhattan: yeah, that’s on my wish list. My double fan set to exhaust pulls air through the main part my house ok, but a whole house fan would really do the trick.
raven
@Baud: I didn’t have a clue but a friend is a wildlife biologist and he explained that they are such killers that the other birds will gang up and try to get them to move. The racket was insane and, like I said, it went on all day. It’s also pretty common to see little birds chasing hawks.
satby
@redshirt: yep. Mean little shits.
Edited because Kindle doesn’t like my potty mouth.
raven
@redshirt: Other birds.
raven
Baud
@raven: I learned something new.
raven
@Baud: Yep, me too. We knew something was up but it took someone with and edumacation in the area to hip us.
Corner Stone
This US Open is nuts.
Uncle Cosmo
@trollhattan:
Now for the bad news–global warming seems to be showing up primarily in higher nighttime temperatures. (Don’t have a link but I saw this somewhere & it dovetails with my own observations over six-plus decades of Baltimore summer nights, largely passed without A/C.)
Suzanne
@redshirt: Geothermal systems work but are very uncommon at residential scale here. Our plots of land aren’t large enough, for the most part, but they are done at schools and the like more and more frequently.
There was a house built in CA sometime in the 1970s that has a gigantic bag of water on the roof. The water absorbs much of the heat of the day, then radiates it through the interior at night. Of course, nothing can go wrong with a few thousand gallons of water on your roof.
Steeplejack (phone)
Redacted.
BillinGlendaleCA
Nice and toasty 112 here at the cave, a/c’s only getting the temp down to 88 inside.
BillinGlendaleCA
@Suzanne:
Especially if the ground decides to start moving.
redshirt
@BillinGlendaleCA: Dang! That’s hot.
I’ve probably hit my high inside of 73 with max temps outside at 88 but now down to 80.
This past winter has taught me I am a creature of the ice and snow. I might need to move even further North in the years to come. I love the cold!
BillinGlendaleCA
@redshirt: What is this snow you speak of? Ice is for drinks.
redshirt
@Suzanne: Cool idea. Never heard of it before. I can see how the design is problematic.
I read something recently about a technique in which the house is mostly below ground, and everything above the house but below ground is covered in a waterproof material – an underground umbrella if you will. Then buried. In cold climates this design will keep the house cool in Summer and warm it in Winter – there’s also two pipes involved that bring air in/out.
I think it’s more of a cold climate design because the idea is to maximize the ground temp around the house in winter and allow the ground to provide a base temperature. It’s claimed even in temps that go below zero no other heating is necessary to maintain the house in the mid 60’s. But I’m skeptical.
redshirt
@Suzanne: Another question – land lots not large enough for horizontal geothermal or vertical geothermal?
redshirt
@BillinGlendaleCA: There’s still a bit of snow/ice on Mt. Washington. Though I suspect not for long.
Down the road from me is a local interest spot called the Ice Caves which usually maintain ice until August.
Pinacacci
@Omnes Omnibus: thank you kindly. Somehow I did not see that at all. Happens frequently.
Ruckus
@Suzanne:
I live in a concrete 5 story apt building with 2 parking levels below ground level. The lower level stays in the low 70s all the time, even today when it’s damn hot. I’m wondering if the apts should be underground with the garages above ground.
hovercraft
@redshirt:
I saw this place on house hunters international Coober Pedy
Average summer temp is 95 in the shade
redshirt
@Ruckus: Hell yeah! The future is Underground!
Miss Bianca
I love this! You’re right, Tom – there’s something about those soothing dulcetly British tones – something about the nature of “tea” itself – that makes this little public service announcement oddly delightful and totally non-threatening.