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You are here: Home / Politics / Trumpery / Hail to the Hairpiece / Open Thread: Corey Lewandowski Is A “Commentator” Now

Open Thread: Corey Lewandowski Is A “Commentator” Now

by Anne Laurie|  June 23, 20164:19 pm| 156 Comments

This post is in: Hail to the Hairpiece, Open Threads, Republican Venality, Assholes, Our Failed Media Experiment

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Network that thought Erik Erikson should be on TV thinks Corey Lewandowski should be on TV.

— Dana Houle (@DanaHoule) June 23, 2016

Per Politico:

Former Donald Trump campaign manager Corey Lewandowski is joining CNN as a political commentator, according to a source familiar with the arrangement.

It’s a salaried position and will make Lewandowski exclusive to CNN, effective immediately…

Though CNN is often the target of Trump’s insults, Trump has a history with CNN president Jeff Zucker. Trump’s reality show “The Apprentice” premiered on NBC in 2004, when Zucker was president of NBC’s television group. In an interview with POLITICO earlier this month, MSNBC’s Joe Scarborough said Trump had once called Zucker his “personal booker.” (CNN declined to respond to Scarborough’s comments.)

CNN is one of the only networks that pays political commentators who are specifically Trump supporters. At CNN, Lewandowski will join former Reagan White House political director Jeffrey Lord and Kayleigh McEnany, a lawyer and conservative columnist as the channel’s in-house Trump boosters.

Retail infotainment store CNN hires local gangster’s legbreaker as a ‘sales rep’, hoping that he’ll be satisfied to stop by once a week for his paycheck (unmarked bills in a plain envelope) and won’t keep dropping by to skim the till or harass the working crew.

I was working on a post aggregating all the arguments that Trump had ‘fired’ Lewandowski the same way he’d previously ‘fired’ Roger Stone — part cost-switching effort, part plausible deniability for future ratfvcking efforts. And it’s not as though CNN is going to require so much of Corey’s attention that he won’t have plenty of time to take lessons from Richard Nixon’s original rodent-copulator…

You can read Lewandowski getting fired as a means to shift his salary from Trump campaign to CNN.

— Rebecca Leber (@rebleber) June 23, 2016

New paid CNN commentator Corey Lewandowski once threatened to blacklist CNN reporter: https://t.co/VY8KqvqW6j pic.twitter.com/k7Ls3PF9qq

— Michael Calderone (@mlcalderone) June 23, 2016

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156Comments

  1. 1.

    khead

    June 23, 2016 at 4:20 pm

    CNN so desperately wants a horse race. So does NBC. They have been amazing to watch in the last week or so.

  2. 2.

    Lamh36

    June 23, 2016 at 4:21 pm

    And I supposed no peep from any of CNNs on air talent…make or female…

    CNN is trash

  3. 3.

    JMG

    June 23, 2016 at 4:22 pm

    This is the moment for Clinton to endorse a la carte cable network purchases, which would put all three news networks out of business within a month.

  4. 4.

    germy

    June 23, 2016 at 4:23 pm

    So is Corey disgruntled former employee willing to use his new platform to spill the beans on his old boss

    or

    is this a part cost-switching effort, part plausible deniability for future ratfvcking efforts.
    Meaning he’ll still be playing dRumpf’s spokesman, just with someone else signing his checks?

  5. 5.

    germy

    June 23, 2016 at 4:24 pm

    @khead: ABC is drooling for the horserace. If dRumpf keeled over dead, they’d prop up his body and say it was a cunning new strategy. “Clinton Camp Thrown Into Confusion By Republican’s Bold Move”

  6. 6.

    the Conster, la Citoyenne

    June 23, 2016 at 4:25 pm

    It’s not possible to hold our media in more contempt than I have for them now. It’s a cesspool of thumb on the scale idiocy all the way down, and nothing can be done about it except refuse to watch.

  7. 7.

    LAO

    June 23, 2016 at 4:25 pm

    I said it below, totally craven move by CNN

  8. 8.

    ranchandsyrup

    June 23, 2016 at 4:26 pm

    lewandoucheski’s non-disparagement agreement with Trump is still in place.

  9. 9.

    Yutsano

    June 23, 2016 at 4:28 pm

    Let the fluffing of the Hair Weasel begin.

  10. 10.

    James E Powell

    June 23, 2016 at 4:30 pm

    My read of CNN, based on the past week, is that they are going to be the “Looking past Trump’s bluster, we really think Hillary Clinton is a deeply flawed candidate.” They are going to Gore her.

  11. 11.

    Origuy

    June 23, 2016 at 4:31 pm

    CNN is one of the only networks that

    Does anyone besides me hate this construction? It sounds awkward. “CNN is one of the few networks” would be better. Besides, how many news networks are we talking about? Does Fox pay partisan commentators? MSNBC?

  12. 12.

    piratedan

    June 23, 2016 at 4:32 pm

    and while of our sons and daughters no longer use network news as their chief source of information, plenty of folks from my generation (and the couple that followed) still do. Hope that the business model of “news accrual” stops attempting to be a profit center and actually gets to be handled as a public service once again. TGFTI because the guys that decide what is “news” and how that “news” will be discussed are most certainly in the bag for the GOP.

  13. 13.

    Ultraviolet Thunder

    June 23, 2016 at 4:35 pm

    Maybe Cory’s bringing something to the table that CNN wants. I guess we’ll find out.

  14. 14.

    OzarkHillbilly

    June 23, 2016 at 4:35 pm

    @germy: They’ll nail his feet to the floor and say, “He’s pining for the Presidency!”

  15. 15.

    bystander

    June 23, 2016 at 4:36 pm

    With any luck, we will all be treated to a rerun of the moment Lewandowski lost it and reached over and wrenched Wolf’s arm.

    Meanwhile, just because you can’t get tickets for Hamilton doesn’t mean you can’t have a few laughs at Spamilton.

    And in other good news, the musical version of Groundhog Day is reportedly in big trouble and may not make it to Broadway. Go get an original idea, people!

  16. 16.

    germy

    June 23, 2016 at 4:36 pm

    @piratedan: Lots of people watch their local TV news (for weather, traffic and random crimes) and the local affiliates parrot whatever bullshit the national news is pushing.

    The national news people have better-fitting suits and nicer hair styles.

  17. 17.

    aimai

    June 23, 2016 at 4:39 pm

    @James E Powell: Yup. They are. Or, if they temporariy throw their weight behind her during the election, they will turn on her and the Democrats five minutes after she wins.

  18. 18.

    germy

    June 23, 2016 at 4:39 pm

    @OzarkHillbilly:

    They’ll nail his feet to the floor and say, “He’s pining for the Presidency!”

    They’ll describe the rigor mortis as a new, more reserved and presidential Trump. While accusing (“some say”) Hillary of being stiff.

  19. 19.

    hovercraft

    June 23, 2016 at 4:41 pm

    @germy:
    I suspect he will follow the Rick Tyler model, after he was canned by Cruz msnbc hired him, and he basically acted as a surrogate. Corey will do the same, be a booster while pretending to be an analyst.

  20. 20.

    Emma

    June 23, 2016 at 4:41 pm

    @germy: As I said in the thread below, I smell rat pee all over this one.

  21. 21.

    The Ancient Randonneur

    June 23, 2016 at 4:42 pm

    Can’t wait to see the discussion between him and Don Lemon.

  22. 22.

    Betty Cracker

    June 23, 2016 at 4:42 pm

    @ranchandsyrup:

    lewandoucheski’s non-disparagement agreement with Trump is still in place.

    This cannot be emphasized enough. So CNN hired someone who is only allowed to provide positive “analysis” of the Trump scampaign.

  23. 23.

    smith

    June 23, 2016 at 4:42 pm

    @germy: Agreed. It’s all about the famous low information voter for whom CNN is a trustworthy news source instead of the mini-Fox it actually is.

  24. 24.

    germy

    June 23, 2016 at 4:43 pm

    @hovercraft: @Emma:
    “Here with an impartial analysis is a former campaign director.”

  25. 25.

    Librarian

    June 23, 2016 at 4:45 pm

    @Origuy: Yes, that drives me crazy also. “One of the only” makes no sense.

  26. 26.

    OzarkHillbilly

    June 23, 2016 at 4:45 pm

    @germy: They’ll put a new suit on him every day and say, “Beautiful plumage!”

  27. 27.

    redshirt

    June 23, 2016 at 4:46 pm

    @JMG:

    This is the moment for Clinton to endorse a la carte cable network purchases, which would put all three news networks out of business within a month

    Brilliant. This would appeal to a lot of low info voters too, who probably hate their cable plan.

  28. 28.

    Major Major Major Major

    June 23, 2016 at 4:46 pm

    Meritocracy!

  29. 29.

    lollipopguild

    June 23, 2016 at 4:47 pm

    @germy: “Weekend at The Donald’s.”

  30. 30.

    gogol's wife

    June 23, 2016 at 4:48 pm

    @Origuy:

    Right. “only” = “one”

    How many papers have I had to write this on

  31. 31.

    Major Major Major Major

    June 23, 2016 at 4:50 pm

    @Librarian: @gogol’s wife: Never bothered me, but I use the vernacular pretty heavily in my writing unless it’s academic.

  32. 32.

    Chris

    June 23, 2016 at 4:51 pm

    @smith:

    Agreed. It’s all about the famous low information voter for whom CNN is a trustworthy news source instead of the mini-Fox it actually is.

    And furthermore, most of the low information or at least low engagement voters (i.e. most of the population), I think, buys the notion of CNN being the “liberal” counterpart to Fox. (And the New York Times and Washington Post being the liberal counterparts to the Washington Times and the Wall Street Journal, etc). So you’ve also got liberals who tune into CNN, the New York Times, NPR, take your pick, and legit think that they’re getting “their” side of the story, and that any conservatives on the air are just tokens.

  33. 33.

    ...now I try to be amused

    June 23, 2016 at 4:52 pm

    @khead:

    CNN so desperately wants a horse race. So does NBC.

    I was hoping that the MSM would find the Trump campaign trainwreck a more compelling story than a horse race. Sigh.

  34. 34.

    Major Major Major Major

    June 23, 2016 at 4:53 pm

    @…now I try to be amused:

    I was hoping that the MSM would find the Trump campaign trainwreck a more compelling story than a horse race. Sigh.

    The campaign is still young. Besides, I don’t know if we should root for him to collapse too hard, before the convention.

  35. 35.

    LAO

    June 23, 2016 at 4:53 pm

    @Betty Cracker: wait, is it a non disclosure agreement or a non-disparagement agreement? What the hell is a non-disparagement agreement? I must have been absent that day in law school.

    ETA: well thanks to google, I know what it is. Doesn’t seem enforceable, though

  36. 36.

    redshirt

    June 23, 2016 at 4:53 pm

    @Chris: Yeah, that’s the most dangerous part of it. CNN is firmly held in the “Liberal” camp and that gives it enormous room to manipulate viewpoints as a stealth right wing organization.

  37. 37.

    dedc79

    June 23, 2016 at 4:54 pm

    This is the equivalent of the NFL network hiring Johnny Manziel

  38. 38.

    gene108

    June 23, 2016 at 4:54 pm

    @smith:

    It’s all about the famous low information voter for whom CNN is a trustworthy news source instead of the mini-Fox it actually is.

    CNN isn’t a mini-Fox. They are worse than Fox. My mom was visiting. She likes to leave CNN on in the background to have some noise in the house. She switched between CNN and Fox News.

    Fox News was a lot less about horse race and provided more actual news content.

    CNN is looking on the cheapest way possible to fill airtime and still draw eyeballs to their shows.

    Having a bombastic Trump surrogate on will not bore people, because he’ll be loud and offensive and will mean they no longer have to provide any actual news content for more and more segments.

    Just let some talking heads spout off.

    Edit: I also don’t think it’s “low info voters” that tune into CNN. I think there’s a generation, and I’m on the edge of it, that remember when CNN was an actual news network and those old beliefs die hard.

  39. 39.

    Ultraviolet Thunder

    June 23, 2016 at 4:56 pm

    @…now I try to be amused:

    I was hoping that the MSM would find the Trump campaign trainwreck a more compelling story than a horse race. Sigh.

    Lack of imagination. The essence of drama is conflict, and drama attracts eyeballs.

  40. 40.

    SiubhanDuinne

    June 23, 2016 at 4:57 pm

    @gene108:

    CNN is looking on the cheapest way possible to fill airtime and still draw eyeballs to their shows.

    Yep. Charlie Pierce referred to him as “human clickbait.”

  41. 41.

    ranchandsyrup

    June 23, 2016 at 4:58 pm

    @LAO: It’s both, from what I understand.

  42. 42.

    Jeffro

    June 23, 2016 at 4:58 pm

    @Lamh36:

    CNN is trash

    Yup. All about the horserace and ratings. Would like to see their one or two last remaining respectable progressive voices (Van Jones, I’m looking at you) pack up and move to another network.

    Folks if you start to boycott CNN (as I think I might), be sure to let them know why.

  43. 43.

    The Ancient Randonneur

    June 23, 2016 at 4:59 pm

    Reports on the Brexit vote should start coming in shortly as the reporting blackout officially ends in a few minutes.

  44. 44.

    Jeffro

    June 23, 2016 at 5:00 pm

    @Chris: I don’t think too many folks think of CNN as liberal…maybe conservatives do, as anything but Fox, Breitbart, Drudge, etc is liberal to them. MSNBC’s the closest thing to a liberal Fox News, but even then, MSNBC has actual ‘facts’ in its reporting.

    I’ve been a mostly online news reader for the past 5-6 years anyway. TV is for Election Nights, but for daily news I hit the major papers’ websites.

  45. 45.

    MattF

    June 23, 2016 at 5:00 pm

    @germy: I’ll bet that Lewandowski had a contract that prevents him from saying critical things about his former boss. Not that he would– but it’s kinda disqualifying for a commentator/journalist.

    ETA: I see that this question has already been chewed over upthread.

  46. 46.

    ThresherK

    June 23, 2016 at 5:00 pm

    Good news: First oil change on my “new” Volvo V70 went very nicely. All the bits are in much more reachable places than the car it replaced, and the oil filter, when removed, doesn’t drip oil onto the exhaust heat shield.

    Not so good news: Before I did this, it overheated, and it’s now at the shop. After 160k it may be a radiator; I’m prepared for the idea of that.

  47. 47.

    LAO

    June 23, 2016 at 5:03 pm

    @ranchandsyrup: you raised an excellent point, a point that makes CNN’s decision even more despicable than I originally thought.

  48. 48.

    Feckless

    June 23, 2016 at 5:03 pm

    CNN=FOX=GOP=NRA=KKK=ISIS

  49. 49.

    Jeffro

    June 23, 2016 at 5:04 pm

    @gene108:

    CNN isn’t a mini-Fox. They are worse than Fox…

    Fox News was a lot less about horse race and provided more actual news content.

    CNN is looking on the cheapest way possible to fill airtime and still draw eyeballs to their shows…

    Edit: I also don’t think it’s “low info voters” that tune into CNN. I think there’s a generation, and I’m on the edge of it, that remember when CNN was an actual news network and those old beliefs die hard.

    I agree with all of this – it really is horse-race, sensationalistic babble most all the time with them. They’re barely above a tabloid level.

  50. 50.

    redshirt

    June 23, 2016 at 5:04 pm

    @gene108:

    Edit: I also don’t think it’s “low info voters” that tune into CNN. I think there’s a generation, and I’m on the edge of it, that remember when CNN was an actual news network and those old beliefs die hard.

    I think that’s the generational effect that has made Fox News so damaging over the last 20 years – there’s a generation or two that was raised to trust news sources as objective. Thus, if it’s on TV or in the paper, it must be true. And so Fox can say what they say and many, many people believe it by default.

    CNN has a longer “trust” factor then Fox, but they’re playing the same game. MSNBC too. All of them, actually, Katie.

  51. 51.

    SiubhanDuinne

    June 23, 2016 at 5:05 pm

    The whole thing definitely makes me think that Corey’s “firing” three days ago was hardly a surprise to him. I was suspicious when I heard snippets of his CNN “interview” just a couple of hours after he was supposedly escorted by security out of Trump Tower. He was very complimentary and calm and positive, and, I’m sorry, if you’ve just been unceremoniously and unexpectedly kicked out on your ass, you’re going to express a little tad of annoyance and bitterness, non-disparagement agreement or no non-disparagement agreement. This was planned. It’s been in the works for at least a few weeks.

  52. 52.

    Gin & Tonic

    June 23, 2016 at 5:05 pm

    @gogol’s wife: That’s a very unique way of pointing that out.

  53. 53.

    Calouste

    June 23, 2016 at 5:06 pm

    According to Sky News, Nigel Farage, the Ukip leader, is saying “it looks like Remain will edge it”.

    :-)

  54. 54.

    aimai

    June 23, 2016 at 5:07 pm

    @srv: OMG–how you can put that up with a straight face after everyone has already read all the reports of how Donald actually does business? He either: didn’t put 50 million in, spent it entirely on his own brands/jets so essentially pocketed it, already re-imbursed himself, or has not actually done anything w/r/t to the so called “loan” because he is planning on getting out from under it some other way.

  55. 55.

    Barney

    June 23, 2016 at 5:07 pm

    “exclusive to CNN, effective immediately…”

    aka ‘quarantined’.It’s very public-spirited of CNN.

  56. 56.

    SiubhanDuinne

    June 23, 2016 at 5:07 pm

    @Feckless:

    CNN=FOX=GOP=NRA=KKK=ISIS=LMFAO

  57. 57.

    Major Major Major Major

    June 23, 2016 at 5:08 pm

    @aimai:

    how you can put that up with a straight face

    Did you forget who you’re talking to?

  58. 58.

    SiubhanDuinne

    June 23, 2016 at 5:09 pm

    @Calouste:

    Hope that’s right.

  59. 59.

    JPL

    June 23, 2016 at 5:09 pm

    @The Ancient Randonneur: From BBC.com
    By breakfast time tomorrow we should know the result: whether the people have endorsed continued membership of the European Union, or decided it is time to leave.
    I don’t plan on being up at 2 am, so guess I’ll find out several hours later.

  60. 60.

    redshirt

    June 23, 2016 at 5:10 pm

    @Calouste: Your words to Europa’s ears.

  61. 61.

    OzarkHillbilly

    June 23, 2016 at 5:11 pm

    @ThresherK: Maybe it’s just the thermostat. A $2.50 part and 10 mins of labor.**

    **for all I know a Volvo thermostat is gold and platinum plated with a 4MB computer mounted on it and to replace it one has to remove the engine.

  62. 62.

    hovercraft

    June 23, 2016 at 5:15 pm

    @LAO:
    Drums doesn’t care he will sue anyone who does not abide by one because he knows he can afford the lawyers fees for longer than the defendant. That is why he is constantly suing people, even when he loses he forces the other party to spend a boatload of money.

  63. 63.

    Roger Moore

    June 23, 2016 at 5:17 pm

    @germy:

    Meaning he’ll still be playing dRumpf’s spokesman, just with someone else signing his checks?

    And added credibility (among the credulous) because he’s supposed to be bitter about being fired- escorted out by security!- and is now working for a name network.

  64. 64.

    Calouste

    June 23, 2016 at 5:17 pm

    @JPL: There should be a decent idea of the outcome in 2-3 hours, as a number of councils will have reported by then, including some large ones.

  65. 65.

    Mnemosyne

    June 23, 2016 at 5:19 pm

    @germy:

    It’s so weird that ABC News is run by a bunch of drooling conservatives (they ran several anti-Obama “documentaries” plus some pro-Bush crap after Obama’s election) while the entertainment division is run by an African-American woman who’s a protégée of Shonda Rimes. Does. Not. Compute.

  66. 66.

    inventor

    June 23, 2016 at 5:19 pm

    @srv:

    while you judiciously pivot to professional staffing for the general.

    Is he conducting staff interviews in Scotland? He has about 30 full time staff and there are 50 states so he is certainly being judicious.

    also, INVINCIBLE!

  67. 67.

    rikyrah

    June 23, 2016 at 5:21 pm

    @Lamh36:
    Tell that truth, lamh.

  68. 68.

    Marion in Savannah

    June 23, 2016 at 5:21 pm

    Well, since we’re already aware that CNN stands for Certainly Not News they haven’t changed.

  69. 69.

    Major Major Major Major

    June 23, 2016 at 5:21 pm

    @Mnemosyne: I don’t know who runs the entertainment division at Fox, but they’re rather different from Fox News.

  70. 70.

    Elie

    June 23, 2016 at 5:22 pm

    @aimai:

    Absolutely they will gun for her once elected. That is also what she expects and will behave accordingly. As for now, if Trump can keep it “together” (and that bar is pretty low given the enthusiastic reviews from the media about that shitty attack on Hillary yesterday), then they can support the surreal notion that Trump is a valid, competent candidate. I do not think that he will be able to.

  71. 71.

    redshirt

    June 23, 2016 at 5:22 pm

    @Mnemosyne: Money.

    News never produces profits. So it’s become a propaganda effort.

    Actual TV can make money, so you run that professionally,

  72. 72.

    rikyrah

    June 23, 2016 at 5:22 pm

    @James E Powell:
    The thing about Hillary is that she has been dogged out for 25 years. And, she is still standing.

  73. 73.

    Lurker Extraordinaire

    June 23, 2016 at 5:26 pm

    We are well past the days of Bernard Shaw. Sad!

  74. 74.

    ThresherK

    June 23, 2016 at 5:26 pm

    @OzarkHillbilly: Oh, were it that, I would not be getting the symptoms I am. Actually the thermostat is opening up pretty well in the hot weather by my reckoning, and it was doing its job in winter of holding closed until the temp gauge normalized.

    If I had the time to order parts in singles or twos it would be doable, but not even in the summer light is it feasible with the new job.

  75. 75.

    rikyrah

    June 23, 2016 at 5:27 pm

    @aimai:
    He is saying this because the donors were not going to pony up any funds to pay off his loans to the campaign. I don’t believe it for one minute, but he can’t afford a Presidential campaign on his own dime.

  76. 76.

    Kay

    June 23, 2016 at 5:28 pm

    This is why the campaign industrial complex is gross and it gets grosser and more excessive every cycle.

    A lot of people are making a lot of money off our stupid, inane political “debate” and it isn’t just lobbyists. They don’t just raise a billion dollars, they SPEND a billion dollars and they spend it on media and consultants and pollsters and operatives. I don’t know where it ends. It has to collapse at some point. It’s a weird, self-perpetuating bubble.

  77. 77.

    Elie

    June 23, 2016 at 5:29 pm

    @SiubhanDuinne:

    Planned? To what end? And it came on a period of Trump’s campaign when numbers, money all heading south? And how does Trump look better with his kids having to step in and rescue the old man who obviously isn’t up to running anything. Trump looks WEAK and he IS Weak. Hillary and her other surrogates have to repeat that in different ways — weak, doddering (maybe not the exact words), incompetent, lame, etc…Not a businessman who knows how to run anything…

  78. 78.

    Jeffro

    June 23, 2016 at 5:29 pm

    @Elie:

    if Trump can keep it “together” (and that bar is pretty low given the enthusiastic reviews from the media about that shitty attack on Hillary yesterday), then they can support the surreal notion that Trump is a valid, competent candidate. I do not think that he will be able to.

    I think he can keep it together – relatively speaking – between now and the end of the convention. After that, with no more GOP leverage on him? He’s going to go hog wild. And for that, and only for that, we really should thank him, as it will most definitely help counter this both-sides, horse-race kind of nonsense that most in the media just can’t quit.

  79. 79.

    Chris

    June 23, 2016 at 5:31 pm

    @Elie:

    Not a businessman who knows how to run anything…

    It would be nice if this campaign finally shattered the stereotype of “rich businessman knows best, clearly suited for the White House.” Not holding my breath, though.

  80. 80.

    David ?Canadian Anchor Baby? Koch

    June 23, 2016 at 5:35 pm

    Wait!

    CNN still exists?

    Nah, that can’t be.

  81. 81.

    maya

    June 23, 2016 at 5:37 pm

    There is only one logical explanation for Lulu’s hiring by CNN; Somebody’s got a yoooge bet down that they can get away with selling a 10lb bag of shit to their viewers. If they can manage to get Mc Drumpf (his mater was Scottish, you know) elected, despite the obvious idiot he is, they’ll have won the bet. It’s yoooge. It’ll break the banks at Monte Carlo, Rotterdam, Wall Street, Exchequer Place, and Berne. Even Wolfie’s got his share of that action so it’s game on. Yoooge.

  82. 82.

    Origuy

    June 23, 2016 at 5:39 pm

    Guardian live-streaming the Brexit vote count.

    Lots of reports of difficulty getting to the polls because of heavy rains in London and the south. Flooding has been causing problems with the Underground.

  83. 83.

    Kay

    June 23, 2016 at 5:40 pm

    I’ve seen this and it is bad for Trump:

    The scene of Donald Trump mocking a New York Times reporter with a congenital disability garners the presumed Republican nominee some of his highest negative ratings among focus groups, POLITICO has learned.

    It’s one of those ads that makes you stop and look, partly because it’s just wholly outside my experience that a Presidential candidate would do this.

  84. 84.

    agrippa

    June 23, 2016 at 5:40 pm

    basically, I do not watch TV. The “news” reports on TV have been terrible for years. Local news is, most of the time, “if it bleeds, it leads” and national news is no better.
    There is a small element of political bias ( we have always had that); but, for the 20 odd years, it has been about ratings. Once, news was considered, to an extent, a public service. Now, it is entertainment; done for ratings and advertisement revenue.
    I think that the bad joke the broadcast ‘news media’ has become derives from that.

  85. 85.

    Elie

    June 23, 2016 at 5:41 pm

    @Jeffro:

    There is no there there and the lack of organization and the money to support it can’t be made up. There are no boots on the ground, effectively and the state and local republican orgs are gonna start screaming because they KNOW what it takes to run a presidential campaign and they don’t see it — besides the caps and a few signs here and there. You can’t “just do” this sort of thing. His people don’t have loyal contacts in the states and localities to get this going. AND there is no IT backbone — which means he is literally blind to what is going on locally — where to doorbell, who to call… Sure, the Repub party can do some of it — but they can’t put out this scope of campaign infrastructure without 1) money and 2) key leadership from the candidate…. Do not mistake Trump’s relative quiet in between chaotic episodes for “doing better”. He is in Scotland now, for Pete’s sake! For what? Who knows? There is no doing better… its just how much worse it can get and how fast. Three weeks is a long time and last I heard, they didn’t have enough business sponsors to pay for the Convention… Love to be a fly on the wall for THOSE planning sessions…

  86. 86.

    agrippa

    June 23, 2016 at 5:44 pm

    @Jeffro:

    I think that it is quite possible that the pendejo will go hog wild after the convention.
    i do not if it could prevent itself from doing so.

  87. 87.

    Schlemazel Khan

    June 23, 2016 at 5:45 pm

    @Mnemosyne:
    Compare FOX noise to their entertainment division. They serve different purposes, one is to push their political agenda and the other is to finance the first. They understand that they will not draw the eyeballs to their entertainment if they stay as narrow and vicious there as they do in their ‘news’ divisions and that would impact revenue.

    edit: Aaaannd @redshirt: got there before me!

  88. 88.

    Major Major Major Major

    June 23, 2016 at 5:46 pm

    @Origuy: Thanks for the link!

  89. 89.

    JPL

    June 23, 2016 at 5:47 pm

    @Kay: Priorities USA now has a second ad with a boy who survived cancer.. link
    The Grace ad is heartbreaking but the new one is just as powerful.

  90. 90.

    agrippa

    June 23, 2016 at 5:47 pm

    @Elie:

    I have read that elsewhere.
    That could lead to a meltdown on the GOP side.

  91. 91.

    Robert Sneddon

    June 23, 2016 at 5:48 pm

    YouGov did a phone poll during the day on the Brexit/Bremain referendum, asking people how they voted. Their result is 52% Remain, 48% Leave. We got called by them about 7:00 p.m. here in Edinburgh.

  92. 92.

    OzarkHillbilly

    June 23, 2016 at 5:48 pm

    @ThresherK: Sorry to hear that. In my years of wrenching on vehicles I learned to always start with the cheapest, easiest fix when unsure of the exact problem. I don’t do much more than change oil these days but I still think that way. Hope springs eternal.

  93. 93.

    JPL

    June 23, 2016 at 5:51 pm

    @Elie: Although the Koch brothers aren’t endorsing Trump, they have sent up a ground game in order to keep the Senate. That should help the turnout for Trump, too.

  94. 94.

    Robert Sneddon

    June 23, 2016 at 5:51 pm

    @Origuy:

    Lots of reports of difficulty getting to the polls because of heavy rains in London and the south. Flooding has been causing problems with the Underground.

    The Glastonbury Festival is being held this weekend, of course it’s raining torrents in SE England.

  95. 95.

    redshirt

    June 23, 2016 at 5:53 pm

    @Schlemazel Khan: It’s an illuminating dynamic. Consider that Fox TV has aired The Simpsons for longer than Fox News has existed. These two concerns are 100% ideologically opposed, and yet they’ve existed together to date. Hell, The Simpsons routinely make fun of Fox News. No problem.

  96. 96.

    SiubhanDuinne

    June 23, 2016 at 5:54 pm

    @JPL:

    Very powerful. Thanks for the link.

  97. 97.

    Sister Rail Gun of Warm Humanitarianism

    June 23, 2016 at 5:55 pm

    @Kay: It’s starting to play on television in NC. Saw it yesterday.

  98. 98.

    Villago Delenda Est

    June 23, 2016 at 5:57 pm

    @khead: The most exciting horse race I’ve ever seen was Secretariat demolishing the field by 31 lengths at the Belmont Stakes.

    Not the kind of horse race the vermin of the Village want, of course.

  99. 99.

    sukabi

    June 23, 2016 at 5:59 pm

    @aimai: wow, looks like he’d be one of tRumps marks…. tRump ‘forgiving’ his campaign loan, is the equivalent of going ‘all in’ on a real estate development…

  100. 100.

    GregB

    June 23, 2016 at 6:00 pm

    CNN, the most disgusting name in news.

  101. 101.

    JPL

    June 23, 2016 at 6:01 pm

    @Sister Rail Gun of Warm Humanitarianism: Did you see the Grace one or the Dante one? I hope that Priorities USA runs them both.

  102. 102.

    OzarkHillbilly

    June 23, 2016 at 6:04 pm

    @JPL: Meh. And the Koch brothers bought that 2012 election too. Seriously, campaigns need money, but they need it to promote a message, a vision. Trump’s message, his vision, is “ME ME ME MEMEMEMEMEMEMEMEMEME!!!!!!!!!!”

    I think the Kochs may invest here and there but only where they think it can make a real world difference.

  103. 103.

    Sister Rail Gun of Warm Humanitarianism

    June 23, 2016 at 6:07 pm

    @JPL: Grace. We watch very little broadcast TV, so it had to be in the news hour or the game show hour.

    Now if we could see ads for our Dem gubernatorial candidate….

  104. 104.

    JPL

    June 23, 2016 at 6:07 pm

    @OzarkHillbilly: 750,000,000 million in PA, OH, and NV. It might have mentioned another state also. They want to buy Senate control. Increased turnout will help Trump.

  105. 105.

    CONGRATULATIONS!

    June 23, 2016 at 6:08 pm

    CNN is dogshit. At least Fox is honest about what you’re getting.

  106. 106.

    piratedan

    June 23, 2016 at 6:09 pm

    @maya: it’s Trading Places, the media edition!

  107. 107.

    Jeffro

    June 23, 2016 at 6:15 pm

    @Elie: It really is quite remarkable…three weeks out and they don’t have this thing (the GOP convention) planned, paid for, or in any way prepped.

    We may have to flip the old cliche about “I’m not from any organized party…I’m a Democrat”

    Thanks Donald!

  108. 108.

    Tenar Darell

    June 23, 2016 at 6:19 pm

    Bad day. At hospital because my aged Dad fell. (Or So this is what it feels like when you’re the first call).

    Feels like I’ve been arguing him into getting treatment all fnucking afternoon. Doesn’t help that the hearing aid died & no fresh batteries available in the hospital.

    So far, seems like just a head lac, & scrapes – but not going to be easy arguing him into more help.

  109. 109.

    OzarkHillbilly

    June 23, 2016 at 6:20 pm

    @JPL:

    They want to buy Senate control.

    Of course they do. They want to control the world. In 2012 they spent $412M and got what for it? If they want to go $750M** maybe it will allow them to hold a Senate seat. All the data says money can neither buy you love or an election. (tho it can buy you a reasonable facsimile of love for a few hours anyway)

    I know everybody hates all the money pouring into elections, I do too. But not because people will buy a Senator or Rep (it can definitely buy one a vote tho), but because of the corrosive effect it has on people’s view of elections and their elected representatives.

    ** $750M in only 3 states? Seems a tad excessive to me,

  110. 110.

    smith

    June 23, 2016 at 6:21 pm

    @Jeffro: I read a while back that the major direction for planning the program at the convention is given to the campaign of the presumptive nominee, when there is one. Trump has virtually no staff.Even though the RNC probably has the personnel with the experience to do this, how much do you think Trump would let them take on? My impression of him is that he’s gotta be in control, even though he seems to lack even the most rudimentary management skills. This convention could turn out to be a reality show beyond our wildest imaginings.

  111. 111.

    SiubhanDuinne

    June 23, 2016 at 6:23 pm

    @Tenar Darell:

    Very sorry to hear that. I hope you’re able to persuade your dad to get the treatment he needs. Good wishes to him for a speedy recovery, and to you for a big dose of patience, which you’ll need.

  112. 112.

    Elie

    June 23, 2016 at 6:26 pm

    @JPL:

    Yes… but where they are putting money is not necessarily where he needs to. Senate and House races in reliable red states are not where he needs his best operation…. Its the purple states … Only Trump thinks that NY and CA are in play for him

  113. 113.

    ? Martin

    June 23, 2016 at 6:26 pm

    California gun control initiative will be on the November ballot. Includes:

    + Background check required to buy ammunition
    + Ammunition sellers need to be licensed like gun dealers
    + Process to seize guns from people prohibited from owning (medical, criminal – we already do this, but it doesn’t work well enough)
    + Lost/stolen guns must be reported to state Justice Dept and requires state to notify feds when someone has been added to the state ‘no guns’ list.

    Difference between state no-guns list and federal no-fly list, due process exists for the gun list just as it does for federal laws that prohibit gun ownership.

  114. 114.

    JPL

    June 23, 2016 at 6:30 pm

    @OzarkHillbilly: They are using the money to set up the ground game to get out the vote. I’m sure it included other states and I’ll try to find the article. They already bought local and state governments.

  115. 115.

    Elie

    June 23, 2016 at 6:32 pm

    @Jeffro:

    And all these folks on the news media going on and on about this ridiculous speech yesterday while crazy old man runs around in Scotland checking his putter. Man, they need to “gently” tear him to pieces about his evolving poor judgement as less the mark of an individualist, but the mark of a man battling incipient infirmity (tsk tsk poor thing) His kids have to check him — his kids…. hammer that over and over…

  116. 116.

    gene108

    June 23, 2016 at 6:34 pm

    @Mnemosyne:

    It’s so weird that ABC News is run by a bunch of drooling conservatives (they ran several anti-Obama “documentaries” plus some pro-Bush crap after Obama’s election) while the entertainment division is run by an African-American woman who’s a protégée of Shonda Rimes. Does. Not. Compute.

    When your demographic for your shows skews older and probably more conservative, you give those people what they want and line up the advertisers that want to advertise to that segment.

  117. 117.

    Elie

    June 23, 2016 at 6:37 pm

    @Tenar Darell:

    Tough day and all my best to you! Hopefully he is not hurt but your task of convincing him about his safety is a tough one. If this is not the first time and if he is in ongoing risk, you are probably wise to meet with an elderlawyer who can help you plan for the bumpy road ahead (which usually includes a financial assessment of options, etc). The two hundred or so dollars for that consultation are usually well worth it. Unfortunately, it doesn’t make all the heavy lifting emotionally any better, but at least you will know what has to be done and can set about an action plan. My two cents and I have been there….

  118. 118.

    JPL

    June 23, 2016 at 6:37 pm

    @JPL: The money will be used for ads also, but I found the article. link Trump might not need troops on the ground.

  119. 119.

    redshirt

    June 23, 2016 at 6:38 pm

    @Elie: Rest assured Elie, the collective media will do everything they can to support the Trump campaign. Why? I’m not even sure anymore. It’s not like Republicans are better for business or the economy. They benefit very few, but that few have a lot of money and enough Dittoheads to wreck the world.

  120. 120.

    gene108

    June 23, 2016 at 6:39 pm

    @Elie:

    … but where they are putting money is not necessarily where he needs to. Senate and House races in reliable red states are not where he needs his best operation…. Its the purple states … Only Trump thinks that NY and CA are in play for him

    Maybe because PA is close, he thinks he might have a chance in other states that don’t usually go Republican.

  121. 121.

    Shalimar

    June 23, 2016 at 6:41 pm

    @inventor: Apparently, the 30 number that has been repeated over and over is the number in field offices for all 50 states. I read a NYTimes (I think) article Monday or Tuesday about how few people Trump has compared to Clinton that put Trump’s total campaign staff at roughly 80 to her 700+.

  122. 122.

    gene108

    June 23, 2016 at 6:41 pm

    @Elie:

    He is in Scotland now, for Pete’s sake! For what? Who knows?

    Family reunion?

  123. 123.

    redshirt

    June 23, 2016 at 6:46 pm

    @gene108: Golf. Can’t say I blame him.

  124. 124.

    WaterGirl

    June 23, 2016 at 6:49 pm

    Even the crazies knew McCain was a loser when he said the economy was strong when things were tanking. Surely Trump will have a similar moment when even the crazies have to think “holy shit!” when they realize the mess he would make as POTUS.

  125. 125.

    JPL

    June 23, 2016 at 6:51 pm

    @WaterGirl: I hope you are right.

  126. 126.

    Major Major Major Major

    June 23, 2016 at 6:55 pm

    @Elie:

    crazy old man runs around in Scotland checking his putter

    Ew.

  127. 127.

    Tenar Darell

    June 23, 2016 at 6:57 pm

    @SiubhanDuinne: @Elie: Thanks. It’s good to get other opinions. For tonight I’ve got my list of basic errands, like batteries etc. The more long term care stuff will require some business hour phone calls tomorrow. (My sibling and me already set up some of the legal framework to be able to take care of him, but a consult might still be useful.)

  128. 128.

    ThresherK

    June 23, 2016 at 6:58 pm

    @OzarkHillbilly: The cheapest thing was a badly aged hose, but after replacing that I determined it’s not the only thing. I am two counties away from FCPEuro, a foreign car parts specialist, and I will not spare the ordering next time; their very ordinary shipping is basically one-day to me.

  129. 129.

    Calouste

    June 23, 2016 at 6:59 pm

    First result for the UK referendum is in, and it’s Gibraltar going 96-4 for Remain. Now they were expected to go heavily Remain, but 96% still looks very high to me.

  130. 130.

    StringOnAStick

    June 23, 2016 at 7:00 pm

    @gene108: I hadn’t seem any CNN for over ten years until last year when my FIL had to go into assisted living. It made me understand why the Malaysian plane incident made him want us to never fly anywhere again. He was sure Hilary was completely overwhelmed by Bernie, and that neither had a ghost of a chance against Trump, all this from watching CNN all day. He passed last !onth, a lifelong liberal who was sure Trump would win this election. I’d Luke to personally thank CNN for making the last years of his life full of misinformation and outright scaremongering.

  131. 131.

    Major Major Major Major

    June 23, 2016 at 7:01 pm

    The Brexit thing reminds me of the Scottish thing, which reminds me of Dr. Who. He was explaining to Amy, when they were on Starship UK, that when Earth was abandoned every country made its own ship and left the planet. “So the UK population all escaped… Except Scotland–they wanted their own spaceship.”

  132. 132.

    cokane

    June 23, 2016 at 7:02 pm

    TBH, I don’t get why people are bagging on CNN for this hire. If they’re going to have a stable of flacks for Dems and regular Republicans, they need someone on there legitimately behind Trump too. It’s a stupid news model, but it’s the main cable news paradigm when covering politics.

    It’s smart from a business POV too. Trump is TV ratings gold — you TV watchers are all guilty of contributing to this! So to have their own in-house mini-Trump, too good of an opportunity to pass up.

  133. 133.

    Amir Khalid

    June 23, 2016 at 7:04 pm

    @StringOnAStick:
    Which Malaysian plane incident: MH370 or MH17?

  134. 134.

    Mnemosyne

    June 23, 2016 at 7:05 pm

    @Tenar Darell:

    Yikes! Hopefully it’s just a few scrapes. A fall can be dangerous, so it’s good to get him evaluated even if he doesn’t want to be there.

    And just a reminder for all that if you’re caring for an elderly loved one, you need to sit down with them and have a very frank talk about what they would and wouldn’t want to have done in a serious emergency. Honestly, many of our elders are much more comfortable discussing their deaths than we are, and they may want much less intervention than we would, so make sure you talk it over with them and then get the Living Will paperwork in place.

  135. 135.

    Tazj

    June 23, 2016 at 7:05 pm

    @Tenar Darell: I’m sorry, that’s so difficult to deal with. Unfortunately, I have no good advice like Elie, but can only offer my sympathy as I too have “been there” for both parents. I’m glad you have a sibling to help.

  136. 136.

    Elie

    June 23, 2016 at 7:09 pm

    @Tenar Darell:

    I send you a hug… I found it to be very STRESSFUL when we did it. Luckily, my sis and I have had a great relationship and shared point of view on how to manage various decisions. Its not always true but great when you can have it. Take care of yourself. Remember its normal to feel guilty. Also.

  137. 137.

    rikyrah

    June 23, 2016 at 7:12 pm

    FREDDIE GRAY JOINS THE LIST OF MURDERED BLACK PEOPLE WHO NO ONE ACTUALLY MURDERED, APPARENTLY
    Damon Young, 6/23/16

    Officer Caesar Goodson, the driver of the police van where Freddie Gray was intentionally given a “rough ride” — an act that severed his spinal cord, placed him in a coma, and killed him — was found not guilty on each of the charges (second degree “depraved heart” murder, three different counts of manslaughter, assault, reckless endangerment, and misconduct in office) stemming from Gray’s death. He is the third officer charged in Gray’s death to escape conviction. Three more still await trial, but convictions for any of them seem extremely unlikely now.

    Naturally, this series of events leads you to believe that no one actually killed Freddie Gray. Which, of course, seems preposterous. After all, his spinal cord was severed, he was placed in a coma, and he did die as a result of the injuries he received while in that van. Someone or a group of someones must’ve done this to him. But its only preposterous if you fail to realize that it’s not without precedent. American history is full of instances of Black people 1) getting murdered, 2) having their murderers be known to the public, and 3) having those murders carried out in public with no legal consequence for the crime. Sometimes it’s done by officers of the law. Sometimes it’s done by neighborhood watchmen. Sometimes it’s done by crowds of people. And sometimes — like with the castration, burning, flaying, and lynching of Jesse Washington — the murder becomes a festive and communal event, complete with food, music, souvenirs, and commemorative postcards.

    Of course, if you’re no one; if you’re a thing that exists but doesn’t actually matter — which is how these dead Black people were regarded by their killers — no one can murder you.

  138. 138.

    Elie

    June 23, 2016 at 7:16 pm

    @Mnemosyne:

    You are right but many times events overtake one’s ability to prepare with them. One is lucky to have that in place beforehand. If your parents have a will, its a bit easier pulling all of this together in a folder and like you say, talk about it openly. A trust is a good thing in the instance that you might have to step in and manage their financial affairs. Getting your name on all their accounts is a royal pain but essential if you are going to be paying bills, etc.

  139. 139.

    Chyron HR

    June 23, 2016 at 7:16 pm

    @cokane:

    If they’re going to have a stable of flacks for Dems

    …they should hire one at some point?

  140. 140.

    SiubhanDuinne

    June 23, 2016 at 7:19 pm

    @cokane:

    a stable of flacks for Dems

    Just gimme a little hint who you’re referring to here.

  141. 141.

    StringOnAStick

    June 23, 2016 at 7:19 pm

    @Amir Khalid: it was the one that disappeared over the ocean; CNN was so all over that and my FIL was visibly freaked out over it. We didn’t tell him we were going to Ecuador until the week before because we figured he’d go nuts about it. We had to check in with him every day because of his CNN-induced fears.

  142. 142.

    Mnemosyne

    June 23, 2016 at 7:19 pm

    @Elie:

    Oh, yeah, if I wasn’t clear, it was meant more as a reminder for people whose parents seem to be doing fine right now that they should talk all that stuff through before there’s a crisis, because it’s too late (and a pain in the ass) if you wait until they’re in the hospital.

  143. 143.

    Elie

    June 23, 2016 at 7:21 pm

    @Tenar Darell:

    Just remember: you want to be able to step in seamlessly where possible. Hiring home attendants, keeping up with bills and other obligations (doc appointments, refills, care equipment like depends, etc). There was a lot to do. I was out of town (GUILT) — my sister managed most of it on site… I came for a couple of weeks at a time and spelled her, but she still had most of it…

  144. 144.

    Mandalay

    June 23, 2016 at 7:24 pm

    @germy:

    Meaning he’ll still be playing dRumpf’s spokesman, just with someone else signing his checks?

    Erin is giving Corey a tongue bath right now, while he verbally blows “Mr. Trump” on camera. He barely stopped short of thanking Trump for firing his ass, and humiliating him. I’ve seen nothing so far to convince me that he isn’t still on Trump’s payroll.

    And he’s so servile that he makes the bozo who thanked Cheney for shooting him in the face look like a tough guy.

  145. 145.

    Elie

    June 23, 2016 at 7:24 pm

    @Mnemosyne:

    I laugh a little (kinda) about all of the “accounts”. In her last few years Mom kept opening up new bank accounts all around the city. We were scared we would lose track but luckily she stopped though we are still not always sure.

  146. 146.

    rikyrah

    June 23, 2016 at 7:25 pm

    ABIGAIL FISHER, THE OSCAR MAYER TURKEY BACON OF AVERAGE WHITE WOMEN, LOSES
    Damon Young, 6/23/16

    ……………………………………………………….

    This decision is a major blow to 2002 Chevrolet Cavalier-ass White people who wish to be treated like Maseratis. Of course, there’s nothing wrong with being a White person. (Hi White people reading this!) Or even being an average White person. Most people — Black, White, Kappa, etc — are average people. Because math. But there is something particularly and specifically American wrong with reflexively assuming that the reason why your second Wednesday in March-ass ass was passed over was because you happen to be a White woman. And then being so hurt by this fabricated wrong that you take your regifted bottle of three-year-old Almaden Heritage-ass ass to the Supreme Court.

  147. 147.

    mdblanche

    June 23, 2016 at 7:28 pm

    @Calouste: Now Leave is starting to overperform…

  148. 148.

    opiejeanne

    June 23, 2016 at 7:30 pm

    @Yutsano: OT: Asking for my neighbor who is obsessed with wanting to report someone to the IRS for running a business under the table.
    Is this even possible?

  149. 149.

    opiejeanne

    June 23, 2016 at 7:32 pm

    @Origuy: YES! I hate that. “One of the few” or “the only”, pick one.

  150. 150.

    Amir Khalid

    June 23, 2016 at 7:35 pm

    @mdblanche:
    Ah. MH370, then. I remember BiP trying to convince me that the Americans shot it down over Diego Garcia.

  151. 151.

    humboldtblue

    June 23, 2016 at 7:52 pm

    @? Martin: And the establishment of a gun violence research center at the Univ. California, and limits on hi-capacity magazines and bans specific types of weapons and weapon alterations.

  152. 152.

    Ajabu

    June 23, 2016 at 8:06 pm

    @rikyrah:
    Nice to know that one of my favorite BJ posters is a VSB junkie like me.
    Keep on, Sistah…

  153. 153.

    Sister Rail Gun of Warm Humanitarianism

    June 23, 2016 at 8:06 pm

    @Mnemosyne: And make sure you have it all crystal clear with the other parent if they’re still alive. I know a guy who is dealing with this right now. It’s a rolling disaster whenever his mother visits his father in the nursing home by herself; the home’s doctors convince her to countermand the decision to treat him as a hospice patient. Then he has to convince her that no, Dad isn’t going to get better, and then take her back to the home to countermand her earlier countermanding.

    They can’t just move him to hospice because money.

  154. 154.

    cokane

    June 23, 2016 at 8:09 pm

    @Chyron HR: are you dumb or just this dug in to defending team blue? Donna Brazille is an easy one, but they have had countless Dem spokespeople over the years

  155. 155.

    NickM

    June 23, 2016 at 10:41 pm

    Any chance this wasn’t pre-rigged? If that Lewandowski has a non disparagement agreement with Trump – even a non-disclosure – how is that not a major ethical problem? Or are journalistic ethics a quaint notion?

  156. 156.

    Lurker Extraordinaire

    June 23, 2016 at 10:53 pm

    @rikyrah: Have you seen #BeckyWithTheBadGrades hashtag on Twitter? Hilarious!!

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