My sis and I went to the St. Pete Pride street festival and parade last night. References to the Pulse nightclub massacre were everywhere — lots of rainbow-script t-shirts with “We Are Orlando” and “We Are Not Afraid.” The parade included a mobile candlelight vigil and people carrying signs with the names of those killed.
Some folks said attendance was down a bit due to fears of copycat violence. That honestly never occurred to me until we got there and I heard someone mention that possibility. But mostly the event was about coming together as a supportive community and having fun doing things like…dancing in a bubble pit:
Some gaping asshole in a truck emblazoned with slogans like, “Got AIDS yet?” and quotations from Leviticus circled the perimeter of the street party and shrieked about hellfire and damnation over a PA system. I was one of thousands who flipped the sanctimonious prick off.
I rarely feel an impulse toward violence, but damned if my hands weren’t itching to heave a brick through that fart-huffer’s windshield. Oh well. Fuck him. If there really is an afterlife, the FSM should put that god-bothering goober in charge of Port-O-Let sanitation.
Anyway, early this morning — way too early after the bubble rave, honestly — hubby and I went birding. We saw these black-bellied whistling ducks and also this noble osprey and many of his or her kin:
We saw several gorgeous roseate spoonbills feeding in the shallows at a distance, but my photos of them look like a kindergartener’s attempted finger-paint forgery of a Monet, so I’ve mercifully spared you that. As I say after every birding excursion, I’m going to have to break down and buy a decent camera.
Open thread!
PS: In case you missed it, our host put up a post with a link to a GoFundMe page last night to help flood-stricken West Virginians.
debbie
Have you seen the Angels? I know they’ve been many places, including Orlando, but they even made it to Ohio.
Patricia Kayden
Funny how homophobes aren’t aware that many (if not most) of those with AIDS are straight.
Thor Heyerdahl
In other words like our dear blog host’s photos :)
WaterGirl
@Thor Heyerdahl: When Baud is president, there shall be no Cole-bashing on Sundays. Um, right Baud?
Iowa Old Lady
Birding is such a good excuse to go out and look at the world. At a conference once, I was talking to some ancient MIT engineering prof, and he told me that when he went out, at first he’d think there were no birds there at all. But if he was patient and looked around, after a while, the place was thick with them. He said he when he took up birding, he noticed things he’d never noticed before.
greennotGreen
I can’t say I haven’t yelled at the radio or TV when hateful assholes run their mouths, but I don’t believe in an afterlife of punishment. I have certainly done less-than-admirable things in my life, and realizing that is quite humbling. Imagine instead an afterlife in which you understand how wrong you were in life, but were nevertheless welcomed with love.
I have often told my atheist friends that if there’s no afterlife, then it won’t matter, but if there is an afterlife, I will be there when they arrive, but I’ll be too holy to say, “I told you so!”
Mike in NC
Four black-bellied whistling ducks showed up in our back yard one day last year, causing quite a stir in the sleepy neighborhood. From what I could find out via Google, they’re rarely seen north of Florida.
Shell
I get so frustrated..Why won’t GoFundMe let you use Paypal?
dr. bloor
@Mike in NC: Environmentally speaking, NC is the new Florida. Just keep your fingers crossed that the northern migration is limited to birds.
ETA–less’n, of course, you’re partial to shopping at Piggly Wiggly.
Cat48
Hillz is leading the Donald 51% to 39% in a new WashPost poll. That’s much better than last month. A lot of people are disgusted by the Donald which is reassuring to me. Also, Obama was at 56%, higher than any GOP at this time in their term. Bubba was higher than he is now.
gogol's wife
@Shell:
I wish all requests for contributions would be accompanied by a mailing address.
gogol's wife
I’ve wanted to see a roseate spoonbill ever since I was a little girl. I had a book of stickers of birds, and that was my favorite. But not enough to actually go to Florida.
gogol's wife
@Cat48:
The response to Orlando has been heartening. People seem to have reacted to his disgusting response the way we sane people do: contempt and revulsion.
germy
I don’t understand.
The organizers of the street festival had to obtain all sorts of permits and pay fees to run the event.
Mr. Truck with the PA system needed no permits? I would have been tempted to get his license plate # and ask the authorities if he’d filed the appropriate paperwork. Perhaps a large fine would be in order.
germy
@Cat48: Let’s not let those numbers get too far apart. It might give the GOP ideas to run someone else, after he gracefully “bows out” due to sudden health concerns.
I hope the numbers stay close enough that he’s like Rmoney after the election, without a concession speech because he was so confident.
Brachiator
So. Wait. Betty, you were dancing in a bubble pit?
And, do the whistling ducks know a lot of different tunes?
Glad to hear that the parade folk celebrated this thing called life, and remembered those who were killed.
And it’s a shame that the haters could not give it a rest for a goddam day, just out of respect.
Oh, well. Everybody have a good day. I’m off to the movies. Not birds, but fish. An afternoon screening of “Finding Dory.”. Well, now that I think about it, there might also be a bird or two.
Betty Cracker
@gogol’s wife: I see them flying by all the time. The other day, I was driving on an elevated highway, and one flew parallel to the road for a moment; it was such a beautiful sight. They are also very common in Cuba, so maybe you can see them there someday?
gogol's wife
@Betty Cracker:
That’s more like it! Omara Portuondo!
Hillary Rettig
>dancing in a bubble pit
man, I go to the wrong parties
Cat48
@gogol’s wife:
That’s what it says in the poll. That makes me happy. No one in my lifetime has acted that badly when they were running for president. I don’t want it to start now!
We deserve better whatever party they’re from! Of course, it’s only one poll.
Amir Khalid
@germy:
I’m not so keen myself for the polling to be close between Hillary and Donald. That feeds the persistent Bernie-or-Buster argument that Bernie is “stronger” than Hillary against Donald.
gogol's wife
@Amir Khalid:
I want the polls to get farther and farther apart. I want to crush him. So what if they get another candidate. That won’t work. Who are they going to get? Cruz? Great, bring it on.
FIBark
@Cat48: …..Paulson, Will, Kagan, Scrowcroft
They are all “with her”, What kind of cognitive dissonance must you possess to see this list of supporters and still think Hillary is the “lesser of two evils”?
When will Cheney endorse her? At the convention? To a standing ovation of “liberal Democrats”?
Corner Stone
@Brachiator:
Haven’t seen it but my son and his mom both raved about it. “It was soooo good!” was said multiple times. FWIW
germy
@Amir Khalid: Yes, that’s also true. I’ve seen with my own eyes a “progressive” saying a Trump presidency wouldn’t be as bad as HRC.
And the “progressive” insisted Bernie would be the stronger candidate. Somewhere, off in the distance, I thought I could hear Karl Rove laughing…
Corner Stone
@germy:
I disagree. Double digits and growing, please. There would be nothing better than the humiliation of Trump getting pulled like a bad comic on stage. Spanked mercilessly by “a girl”, no less.
Then he will spend mucho time trashing the GOP and actively burning the down ticket races where the person did not endorse him. And who could the GOP nominate at this point with 3 months +/- left after the convention?
Cat48
@germy:
I’m not sure his will get any better bc they polled specifically about how he treats women, etc. and whether he was even qualified to b Pres. It was rough. I think the leadership is too afraid to switch candidates. Ryan keeps saying the people chose him & he’s the nominee.? We’ll see soon.
germy
@Corner Stone: I like your scenario and I hope it comes to pass.
Cat48
@FIBark:
That’s really not her fault that she’s always been a responsible adult & they want to be able to sleep at night, instead of worrying about Trump blowing up Europe. He said nuking Europe is on the table. That’s crazy!
Cheney will,not endorse her bc Rumsfield is all in with Trump.
Also, Will didn’t endorse her. He could go Weld/Johnson bc Weld is more his type.
Shell
The weathers so beautiful, we should all be outside. But two good movies on TCM this afternoon. “All About Eve” at 3:30 and “Breakfast At Tiffanys” at 6.
Baud
@WaterGirl:
If you mean not only on Sundays, then you are correct.
Schlemazel Khan
@FIBark:
I’ll quote your God, Reagan, “They are voting for me I am not voting for them”
Miss Bianca
@gogol’s wife: I to have always wanted to see one – and I would *not* rule out the possibility of traveling to Florida for it! ; )
Also, ospreys are my favorite bird of prey – when I was a little girl, a friend of the family was obsessed with restoring them to their habitat in Michigan (this was in the 70s, just after the banning of DDT), and I ended up sharing his obsession. So, thanks Betty, for the osprey pics!
Baud
@FIBark:
If they are with her and some people on the left are not, then the shame rests with those people on the left.
bystander
@gogol’s wife: I’m afraid that the constant polls reporting that those wanting to stay in the EU were ahead played a part in the Brexit disaster. People get overconfident and they don’t show up at the polls. Double digits are nice, tho, and maybe I’m misreading the confidence factor in GB since that was barely out of the MOE.
MSNBC and ABC are all Trump, all the time. They’re critical of him, yet they never say that saying racist things is probably a pretty good indication that you’re a racist. The observation that people who hoot and holler when Trump is smearing entire nationalities or slandering the POTUS are also racist never seems to dawn these guys either. If they start reporting on how much fun it would be to have a beer with Trump, we’re doomed.
Punchy
You olds call it a “bubble pit”? Foam Party, yo. Also, great impulse control on the brick-chucking. I’m not so certain I could have held back. Windshield Masonry is quite effective.
Schlemazel Khan
@Baud:
I like your answer better than mine, very Presidential Mr. Baud. I am glad I came to your side early in your campaign.
Hal
I’ve seen two different pro gun narratives by a couple of Facebook friends and I have to say; correlation/causation is not a strong suit of the modern ammosexual. My favorite was the line that you are 600 times more likely to die using your obamacare than a semi automatic rifle. This was comparing gun deaths in 2013 to medical mistakes. Another listed the number one cause of death as abortion. I didn’t even bother to reply.
Baud
@Hal: Not that these people can be reasoned with, but by that logic, we should ignore terrorism altogether, which has caused relatively few American deaths.
gogol's wife
@Cat48:
starve the troll
Baud
@Schlemazel Khan: I value your support. Although we didn’t win this time, I’m proud of the fact that we came out of nowhere to achieve a solid third-place finish in the primary.
gogol's wife
@Cat48:
I mean starve the troll.
Editing triggers moderation.
HinTN
@FIBark: You’re seeing the beginnings of realignment. Democrats will be (officially) the party of the establishment, Progressives will be the real left wing, and the Republicans will have the angry rump.
Baud
@HinTN: Absent a change in the electoral system, our political structure isn’t set up for three national parties.
HinTN
@gogol’s wife: Not on my mobile device…
Tom
@Cat48: By the way, for all the “George Will Agnostises”, let’s not forget three prominent public figures who were thrilled at the Breaxit outcome: Donald Trump, George Will, and Vladimir Putin. I would suggest Will’s disgust has much more to do with The Donald’s barbaric manners than with his policies.
ThresherK
@FIBark: You’re putting stock in what Dick Cheney says?
Let me tell you a story: When a Daddy Rat and a Mommy Rat love each other very much…
Baud
BTW, re: Dick Cheney.
Tom
@Hal: Should one of your ammosesxuals start the “if you can’t tell the difference between different types of assault rifles then you don’t deserve to have a voice in the debate, let me suggest you send them the following interlude from My Cousin Vinny, after which please feel free to drop the mic.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YsS2nsLlp-U
Betty Cracker
@ThresherK:
Well played!
Iowa Old Lady
@Tom: Yeah, for a lot of the Wall Street Rs, it’s a matter of aesthetics.
liberal
@FIBark: the fact Kagan is fine with her isn’t exactly a good thing.
Scowcroft otoh…
BR
@FIBark:
Remember how LBJ and FDR had their big majorities in congress and got important progressive legislation passed — they had huge numbers of conservatives (back then they were Democrats, but now they’re Republicans). We don’t need to agree with such folks, and them not supporting a crazy man for president tells me nothing about about Clinton.
Roger Moore
@bystander:
Or they decide that a protest vote is safe because that side isn’t going to win anyway; my impression is that was a bigger part of the Brexit voting than people staying home, and it could certainly be a problem with people voting for third parties here in the US.
donnah
Ms Betty, you are in a rich photographical environment, lots of great subjects and beautiful scenery. Indulge in a nice camera! I got a Lumix GF3 from Panasonic a couple of years ago and it’s easy, small, and not too pricey. Life’s too short to shoot crappy photos!
gene108
@HinTN:
There will be two parties. The Democrats will be the party of minorities and some white people. The Republicans will be the party of most white folks and a small chunk of minorities.
@BR:
Those Southern Denocrats were A-Okay with expanding government to help white people. It’s only when government tried to expand those benefits to black people that they went nuts.
Today’s Republicans just want to screw over all poor people, regardless of ethnicity,
Miss Bianca
@ThresherK:
I think you have won the Internets for the day!
Emma
@liberal: Jesus Galloping Christ, why is it so hard to understand that those fine, upstanding sonofabitches are “all right with her” because they realize their own party’s candidate is an international cataclysm looking for a place to happen and they would rather sleep at night?
ThresherK
@Miss Bianca: Okay, you and Betty? I’m going to stop for the day. I know when I’m ahead.
BR
@gene108:
I’d argue today’s variety are fine with it as well — look at the Kentucky situation. They’re fine with Obamacare as long as they can take credit for it and can target it to the people who are like them.
debbie
@gogol’s wife:
Yes. Let them go into long-term panic mode, so we can see the real stuff they’re made of.
MattF
@Baud: Umm. There’s the question of enhanced enhanced interrogation. I don’t think Der Trump has ever backed off on that, neither has Cheney.
Schlemazel Khan
@Baud:
well, 4th based on vote total but tied for 3rd in delgates
Schlemazel Khan
@Emma:
Because it does not the narrative they want to believe and when reality conflicts with the narrative push the narrative harder!
There is a place where the rightwing & the leftwing touch, it is a place of fantasy where they join hands against the real world to cry their hearts out against the evil that is set against them
germy
@donnah: I like Betty’s bird photos; they look like surveillance footage from a private detective hired by a bird wife to spy on a wandering bird husband.
But there are modifications for smart phones to get nicer photos.
debbie
@Miss Bianca:
A pair of osprey nested next to a local tv station’s roof cam (more like a high rise cam). They were the stars of the newscasts, toughing out a very cold spring and enduring a red warning beacon only inches away. Three eggs, but only two hatched. I was going to link to the live cam, but I just found out the chicks died. Not sure why.
Anyway, here’s a short video of the birds in happier times.
http://abc6onyourside.com/news/local/baby-osprey-pass-away-while-in-nest
Oldgold
Speaking of general stupidity: http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/kentucky’s-ark-defies-science-but-evokes-a-version-of-christianity/ar-AAhDlMN?li=BBnbfcL
hovercraft
@Cat48:
Don’t get too cocky, Donald has an ace up his sleeve.
Can the person who led Donald to Christ come forward and tell how this miracle was accomplished. With this level of power they may be able to lead us all into the light, and save the world.
hovercraft
I removed the naked link
Mike J
@Schlemazel Khan:
And first in our hearts.
redshirt
@germy:
LOL.
Like!
D58826
Bernie on state of the union today:
1. he is happy with the platform items that went his way
2. he doesn’t accept that he lost on the other items so will take it to the convention
3. he was asked about his ‘probably will vote for Hillary’ statement on Friday. He changed the subject and complained about the media playing word games.
4. When asked again about supporting Hillary and urging his supporters to do the same he said that Hillary has to show her sincerity by accepting his platform. After all 12 million people voted for it. The 15 million that voted against it seemingly don’t count.
http://www.dailykos.com/story/2016/6/26/1542594/-It-s-now-VERY-CLEAR-Bernie-Sanders-is-out-for-Bernie-Sanders-He-made-it-clear-on-State-of-the-Union
MattF
@hovercraft: Or… not.
Baud
@hovercraft:
BREAKING: Christ seeks restraining order against “creepy” Trump.
Sister Rail Gun of Warm Humanitarianism
@dr. bloor: We already have Piggly Wiggly here.
Saw a palmetto bug go flying past a couple of days ago. I’m ready to win the lottery and buy that missile base in the Adirondacks.
Aimai
@FIBark: i dont see how people like you dint recognize that trump is splitting the republican party. Thats what the split means–some will go to hillary
redshirt
I love birds a ton. My bird feeders provide endless entertainment, at least until the Blue Jays show up and take over. Hate them.
I’ve been attempting a scientific study recently to see if there is any amount of negative reinforcement that will keep the Jays away. Initial answer: Aww hell no!
Miss Bianca
@ThresherK: No, no, do go on! : )
@debbie: Ooh, cool..thanks for that!
@Baud: You are totally on a roll today. I love a presidential candidate who can make me laugh *and* think!
smith
@D58826: Several bloggers I read noted a couple weeks back that Bernie’s window for exacting concessions from Clinton is closing rapidly, and it may by now be closed. His supporters have had some time to absorb the loss and think about whether a Trump presidency is a great alternative to Hillary. Hillary is consolidating her support from other Dems and is even starting to acquire some Rs. Her polls are doing well. She probably decided a while back exactly how much she’s going to offer to Bernie, and I bet by now he knows what that is. Most importantly, events are galloping ahead without him, and he is quickly growing irrelevant. If he keeps up his schtick, by the time of the convention he’ll be nothing more than another old guy shouting at clouds.
hovercraft
@MattF: Exposes them as power hungry charlatans, who don’t really care what you are as long as you are on their side.
@Baud:
I think he may go further and join the witness protection program, complete with relocation and plastic surgery.
Corner Stone
@D58826: Gah.
Warning, it’s Politico. But I saw the CNN blurb on TV so I at least know that happened as presented.
Sanders again stops short of endorsing Clinton
JPL
@Baud: We need a warning to put down all drinks, before reading further.
smith
@hovercraft:
Well, he could at least shave that beard and get a haircut and get an honest job. Damned hippie.
WaterGirl
@Baud: Sigh. All the candidates let you down, sooner or later.
Cat48
@hovercraft:
I’m not, but it is exciting to see an improvement. NBC has a poll where she is ahead 5 pts, but today I’m going with the 12pts. :)
hovercraft
@D58826:
Sanders did not lose the election ! Millions of ‘real progressives’ voted for him and therefore his platform must be the democratic platform or we will lose. It’s not just Bernie Sanders saying this it’s the people saying this ( according to BS). Hillary must listen because the people have spoken.
Mnemosyne
@liberal:
To use an old favorite metaphor from these here parts, Scowcroft et al are looking at the potluck dinner table and realizing that Hillary has brought a bland but nourishing spinach salad, while Trump has brought a broken glass and anthrax casserole.
You’re looking at the table and saying, Everyone knows that eating spinach is just as dangerous as eating broken glass! And then you wonder why we think you’re a fucking moron.
Corner Stone
@smith:
He is irrelevant. No speaking slot at the convention. If he does I see a Chris Christie at 2012 RNC level of self-centered and selfish rhetoric.
WaterGirl
@Baud: Somewhere, Martin O’Malley is weeping.
Miss Bianca
@Corner Stone: WTF that man is waiting for, I don’t know. Flowers? Chocolates? A promise of tickets to the Inaugural Ball? The Sanders Saga has gone beyond “Christ, what an asshole” for me. I think we may be into ThresherK’s “Daddy Rat and Mommy Rat” narrative.
Baud
@WaterGirl:
Unlike usurper Hillary, I’m willing to compromise to preserve the coalition. How about no Cole bashing after I go to bed for the night?
gogol's wife
@Baud:
lol
Cat48
@Corner Stone:
Someone needs to explain reality to this man, but that seems impossible.
GAH! Is Right!
burnspbesq
</@FIBark:
She is the best available option. Period, full stop.
And WADR, anyone who can’t see that is fookin’ DAFT.
Are you fookin’ daft?
hovercraft
@Cat48:
Totally agree, I say beat him like a drum, make him cry for his mommy, beat him so bad that when he gets on stage with her he starts yelling b**ch, c**t, and blubbers like a fool. The worse the polls get the more he will lose it, what little of it he ever had.
My comment was snark.
dr. luba
@Miss Bianca: I know a guy who’s a British birder; I met him in Nicaragua at a mutual friend’s house. I took him birding on Lake Nicaragua–you can hire boats to take you around the isletas near Granada. What impressed him the most was the ospreys. They are incredibly rare in England (I believe the location of their nests is a state secret due to egg collectors); in Nicaragua the sky was full of them.
I’ve seen a fair number of them here in Michigan, too. I was driving in the Keweenaw one day, near Rice Lake, only to have an osprey swoop down in front of me a catch a fish out of the lake. Cool.
WaterGirl
@Baud: I’ll get back to you with an answer once I’m done pouting.
Mark B
@donnah: Most amateurs don’t need a dedicated camera, if they go ahead and buy a newer cell phone. My iPhone 6s camera beats the hell out of most non-professional dedicated cameras from just a few years ago. And it’s a lot less of a learning curve for most people.
If you do go for a dedicated camera, don’t cheap out, go for a decent mid-level Nikon or Canon. Sony mirrorless cameras are also great, I bought a Sony Alpha A7 a while back and I love it, although it has a few flaws (limited battery life and the lenses are $$$$$$). But I still use my cell phone camera a lot for proofing and candid shots.
dr. luba
@germy: A friend’s daughter (and Berner) tried explaining to me that Trump might be better because he could work with a GOP Congress and actually get legislation passed. Yes, I told her, privatization of Social Security, repealing Medicare and Obamacare, overturning equal pay laws………and creating a right wing court that will overturn gay marriage and abortion rights.
burnspbesq
BTW, can we just reject the damn “lesser of two evils” framing? That plays into the hands of the enemy.
Clinton is the best available option.
Miss Bianca
@dr. luba: I’m sort of surprised that egg collectors would be an issue with UK ospreys; according to my English falconer source, they are exceptionally hard to rear in captivity and you can’t (fish)hawk with them for shite. (Why yes, I *did* inquire of him on this point!)
Baud
@dr. luba: Obama should have tried harder to achieve a Grand Bargain.
dr. luba
@D58826: I thought he was all about reforming the democratic party and the primary election process? You know, so that someday a white man might be able to become the democratic nominee. He has a dream!
Mnemosyne
@burnspbesq:
The question is “cake or death?” and some people are going, If the cake isn’t German chocolate with pecan coconut topping and chocolate ganache filling, I’d rather be executed.
dr. luba
@Miss Bianca: Egg collector collect eggs it to hatch them, but to have them. Egg collecting used to be a big thing; I think it was one of those Victorian passions, like collecting beetles.
In the basement of the public library in Marshfield, Wisconsin, is a lovely egg collection, along with several large display cases of stuffed wild birds. I was told that this collection could never be duplicated now because egg collecting (at least the eggs of migratory birds) is illegal.
burnspbesq
@Mnemosyne:
While others are saying “the very existence of cake is an evil plot by the banksters and neocons and their enablers.”
JPL
@Baud: haha. He stopped short at kissing ass, but even that wouldn’t have worked with the loonies that took over the republican party.
rikyrah
Huffington Post UK ✔ @HuffPostUK
Sky News’s @faisalislam left speechless as Leave MP tells him “There is no plan”
11:20 AM – 26 Jun 2016
? Martin
Regarding Trump, in the cross tabs it is revealed that over 40% of Republicans think that Trump says racist things. That they acknowledge that is a huge weakness or him – plenty of Republicans will still vote for him with a ‘racist’ label that they agree with, but plenty won’t. Trump needs every Republican he can get. I wouldn’t consider any poll that doesn’t have Johnson/Stein in it at this point.
Regarding Brexit, Merkel looks likely to suggest that the UK have an opportunity to reconsider their exit. That would give UK leadership an out. Cameron already gave the UK one out by going against his pledge to issue Article 50 and instead resigning. Getting an invitation from someone else in the EU to revisit will help those who were less nationalistic regarding their Leave vote. All energy right now – including from dipshits like Boris – is focused on how to stay. They’ll stay.
Schlemazel Khan
@Mnemosyne:
I have baked a couple of cakes this weekend as an experiment for our daughters wedding party. They are variations on this: http://www.sbs.com.au/food/recipes/orange-and-almond-cake
flourless, they use almond flour and boiled citrus. You boil a couple of oranges & then blend them smooth, skin & all. Boiling takes the bitterness out. These are dense & tangy cakes, really really good. The second I made with limes (boiling does no good with them I discovered the skins won’t blend so I just juiced them). Her colors are orange and green (she is marrying a guy who went to Miami U & Wedding is in Key West). SO I am going to make a layer cake of orange & lime with a citrus marscapone frosting. I wouldn’t want this every day but it is an amazing flavor!
Schlemazel Khan
@Mnemosyne:
I have baked a couple of cakes this weekend as an experiment for our daughters wedding party. They are variations on this: Orange Almond cake
flourless, they use almond flour and boiled citrus. You boil a couple of oranges & then blend them smooth, skin & all. Boiling takes the bitterness out. These are dense & tangy cakes, really really good. The second I made with limes (boiling does no good with them I discovered the skins won’t blend so I just juiced them). Her colors are orange and green (she is marrying a guy who went to Miami U & Wedding is in Key West). SO I am going to make a layer cake of orange & lime with a citrus marscapone frosting. I wouldn’t want this every day but it is an amazing flavor!
Punchy
@? Martin: I’ll say it now and eat plates of crow if Im wrong — the Brits aint leaving the EU. Not going to happen. This is like a Vegas wedding while hammered. They woke up the next day, sobered up, and are seeking out a divorce lawyer, asap.
hovercraft
So I’m watching Jake Tapper ask Bob Corker if Obama is to blame for Brexit, the answer was a weasely worded no but how dare he interfere, so maybe. Then Corker said Donald’s presser was one of his best events ever, I guess he still wants that VP spot. The next thing I hear is a straight up Koch commercial lamenting about our rigged system creating a two tiered society. And then Jake introduces his panel, Ken Cuccinelli, Jan Brewer, Nina Turner, and Martin O’Malley. First question to Brewer is Obama calling Donald a charlatan gonna hurt him, answer Obama’s comments are offensive, and he has done the same thing to me. The presidents response to all policy differences is to call his opponents bigots and racists, the Cooch concurs.
CNN I wonder why everyone hates them.
smith
@? Martin: Nicola Sturgeon has also said to day that the Scottish Parliament may refuse to pass any of the legislation to enable Leave, thus effectively vetoing it. The Scots may be giving the UK a take it or leave it proposition: you can let us veto your silly whim or let us break up the UK.
MattF
@Punchy: But the problem is that the only available attorney has a primary gig as an Elvis impersonator. Sometimes, you’re just screwed.
The Ancient Randonneur
@hovercraft:
Apparently being a racist is excusable but being called one is not. Thin skin seems to be a prerequisite for political success in the modern GOP.
Mnemosyne
Well, I can see this is going to be another lazy Sunday where I don’t get much done because the cat insists on laying on top of me for hours. If not, she will spend that same amount of time meowing at me non-stop.
? Martin
@smith: Yeah, that seems to be a pretty good plan on Scotland’s part – they seem to have a much clearer sense of what they want and they seem to have pretty competent leaders. It seems as though they are about to have a major political party upheaval there. I suspect that the US may follow to some degree.
gene108
@burnspbesq:
Hillary is actually a good option. The more I see of her as this campaign season unfolds, the more I am genuinely impressed and excited.
She’s smart, not easily rattled, and seems to care about making things better.
Other than the murder of Vince Foster, and those two Arkansas teens, who found out about the Clintons’ cocaine smuggling operations, in the 1980’s, what’s not to like?
the Conster, la Citoyenne
@FIBark:
They’re sane, and understand that there’s a level of chaos that Trump would create in foreign and domestic political economy that is simply intolerable to anyone not batshit crazy. Jeebus, you Bernie dead enders don’t understand anything about, well, anything, but especially politics.
The Ancient Randonneur
@? Martin: Cameron’s resignation and decision to not immediately invoke Article 50 ended Boris Johnson’s political career. It makes no difference now if Boris becomes PM. He’s toast. His political shelf life got cut down to almost zero no matter what happens. The long term economic implications of an exit are not good for the UK. London will most likely find it difficult to solidify its leadership roll in the tech economy and while it might remain a financial giant some other European city will most likely rise as a financial and tech center for the EU. This vote will make it very difficult for new tech startups in the UK to raise capital from investors. One thing all investors hate is uncertainty and right now the only thing that is certain is that everything is uncertain
Matt McIrvin
@? Martin:
That’s a tough call… it’s well-known that minor third-party candidates almost always do much better in general-election polls that mention them than they do in the actual election.
hovercraft
@hovercraft:
Nina Turner is not ready to say she’ll vote for Clinton she’s going to the convention to fight for Sanders ideas, O’Malley says he thinks democrats will be united, Turner says she resents that assumption, it’s not about democrats coming together it’s about the people having a voice. I have no idea what the hell she’s talking about.
Corner Stone
@gene108:
I think that just points to her decisiveness when tough times are looming. Quick, thorough action to resolve a potential problem.
the Conster, la Citoyenne
@hovercraft:
She’s been completely incoherent on every topic, because she seems to mean that the millions of more people that voted for Hillary should be dismissed. That’s how we now know the Bernie dead enders are a cult now, and are simply following Dear Leader.
Corner Stone
@hovercraft:
It’s amazing to contrast her thoughts now against the things she wanted to fight for when she was running for OH SecState. You would think from all the evils and wrongs she wanted to right that a big win by HRC would by far get us all closer to getting them done.
hovercraft
@The Ancient Randonneur:
From CNN
Well it’s not polite to point out other peoples failings, the politically correct thing to do is to ignore them, to spare their feelings. O dear I forgot they hate political correctness, so I guess we’re just following their example by calling it like it is, they love that, right?
MattF
@hovercraft: This ‘panel’ was obviously a setup for a ‘Let’s you and him fight’ scenario. Why pay any attention to it?
gene108
@Corner Stone:
I’d feel better, if she actually pulled the trigger herself. Getting someone else to do your dirty work is just like a woman.
Corner Stone
@The Ancient Randonneur:
It’s already happening, to some degree, in Frankfurt. I am sure other areas will fight for that business, and that leadership, but access to banking, infrastructure and high talent/skilled workers is pushing Frankfurt in ways that others have yet to be able to match, IMO and from what I have seen.
hovercraft
@the Conster, la Citoyenne:
I guess at this point they can just go to Philly and get a rude awakening when they are drowned out by the vast majority of the delegates, who after all are democratic operatives. Ae evidenced by the conventions to select delegates his supporters are not very good at follow through. They may come to Philly and the media will play up their resistance but the results won’t change anything. The cult will still be just that a small group of cultists. The polls are already showing Hillary solidifying her lead over the dumpster.
Cults don’t end well, um Heavens Gate and Jones Town, don’t drink the kool aid.
Felonius Monk
@hovercraft:
Of course she doesn’t have any idea either just like her leader, Blustering Bernie. He’s so full of resentment, anger, bluster, and bullshit that there is no room for rational thought.
hovercraft
@MattF:
That’s the ‘hope’ for all cable panels, I keep them on as background as I go about my chores. I like to know what the talking heads are saying because this becomes the source of conventional wisdom for the next few days. Knowledge is powerful, it saves me from being surprised by the depth of idocity of my countrymen and women.
FIBark
@the Conster, la Citoyenne: …..This is an admission by the neocons that Hillary is their best hope.
Nothing more; nothing less.
David Fud
@debbie: I am proud to be in Columbus and to be a leader in the Unitarian Universalist jihad.
retiredeng
@donnah: Another good camera that’s easy to use and small is Canon’s PowerShot ELPH 300 HS. If your price range is around $300.00. I shoot large format 2816×1880 with mine and you can crop a very small part and still get great pictures. It shoots video as well.
Mnemosyne
@FIBark:
Best hope for what, exactly? What nefarious plan do you think the neocons have that Trump would be unwilling to go along with?
Bernie is done. He got fewer votes. So now your choice is Trump or Clinton. Death or cake. Time to choose.
Fair Economist
@Emma:
I think it’s telling that the “old Bushies” like Scowcroft supporting Hillary, while monsters, at least don’t want the world to get blown up.
Cheney and Rumsfeld, the ones supporting Trump, are the ones who arranged for special military bunkers to survive a nuclear exchange.
FIBark
@FIBark: …I remember when the neocons under Papa Bush were relegated to the closet because their policies were considered crazy and dangerous. With Hillary’s election, we will see the bipartisan acceptance of neocon foreign policy, as her supporters do what they did when Obama expanded targeted killing by Drones. Support the policies because they identify with their proponent.
Matt McIrvin
@the Conster, la Citoyenne: Are we sure our new friend isn’t concerned about BRINKS TRUCKS?
The Lodger
Also, let me introduce the logical concept that “They’re with Her” doesn’t necessarily imply “She’s with Them.”
SiubhanDuinne
Am I the only person who got Betty’s title? Kismet, bitches!
Iowa Old Lady
@Corner Stone: Turner resents O’Malley’s innocuous claim that the Ds will be united? What’s to resent about that? Would she rather he ding Sanders? OTOH, she expects Clinton not to resent the demands the Sanders people are making?
I honestly don’t know what happens to people sometimes. Turner always struck me as sensible.
Schlemazel Khan
@FIBark:
oh just go fuck yourself, you are obviously too stupid to be involved in any grown up conversation on politics so just find a nice quiet spot & fuck yourself with a rusty chainsaw. You are beneath any other response.
I assume with the way you talk you are one of the paid trolls loosed to cause a division inside the Democratic Party to the benefit of the GOP. Please make sure the chainsaw is running
BR
@FIBark:
Seems to me you’re using cleek’s law in reverse. I expect people on this site to be more sensible than that. I don’t make my decisions based on whether a few neocons decide Trump is too crazy for them or not. I didn’t listen to them when they were for, say, Romney, and I’m not going to listen to them now that they’re anti-Trump. It doesn’t matter to me what they say.
That’s why I simply look at what the candidates say and then compare them and make up my own mind. It’s a no brainer between Clinton and Trump.
(And for the record, I was neutral in the primaries since I didn’t really like Clinton or Sanders — Clinton because she was more moderate than I like and Sanders because he offered pie-in-the-sky without ever backing it up.)
gwangung
@FIBark:
Snicker. You don’t seem too aware that Sanders fully supports the drone policy, and is nearly as aggressive as Clinton is in foreign policy, judging by his voting record in Congress. (Can’t judge by his policy statements; they are not very coherent and they are certainly not that informed).
Clinton is actually the less aggresive of the two remaining candidate (and might be argued the least aggressive of all the major candidates that ran).
sigaba
@FIBark:
Now I am, granted, a twisted authoritarian. But isn’t there something to be said for the idea that, maybe, Barack Obama and Hillary Clinton are more qualified to decide if targeted drone killings are warranted and an appropriate policy, than, say, me? Or you?
I mean, if you’re like me, and you don’t really have any problems with the ethical aspects of American foreign policy, and you really just want to make sure the people running things don’t do obnoxiously self-destructive things, what’s the problem? Or say you’re a realist, like I also tend to be, and you don’t believe that a country’s military acts can be evaluated as “moral” or not?
Kay
@Corner Stone:
Turner is a really powerful presence. She’s an unusual person. You don’t forget her when you meet her. She may feel constrained by the Ohio Democratic Party which is quite conventional and “wait your turn”. Clinton is connected to that “establishment” faction thru Strickland, who is a long-time Clintonsupporter. It may not be fair to hang that on Clinton, but that may be a valid reason Turner is disenchanted by Democrats.
The same thing happened with a candidate for AG we had. He was the more liberal of two who were up for AG and Democrats chose the more conventional candidate. The Party choice was just a terrible lawyer, let alone AG. The liberal, an Indian-American who is really sharp and should have been promoted, was quite bitter at the ’08 convention. I backed him so he complained to me when I sought him out- I was surprised he went, honestly. They’re not known as wildly open and inclusive, Ohio Democrats. There’s kind of an old guard thing going on. Turner isn’t “young” but she’s different.
Fair Economist
@Matt McIrvin:
Between how horrible Trump is and the good chance that he may be obviously doomed to lose by November, we may see a lot less strategic voting and a relatively high vote for the Libertarians this time.
That said, what really matters is Congress and a poll without the Libertarian ticket is probably a better representation of how the vote for Congress will go. To get the House, we’re going to need at least a +10 for Hillary on a head-to-head.
Mnemosyne
@FIBark:
In other words, you have no idea who Brent Scowcroft is, or what he did in “Papa Bush’s” administration.
All you know is that Hillary is Bad, so therefore Trump must be Good, which now means that Trump supporters Cheney and Rumsfeld are less dangerous than Brent Scowcroft.
Well, now that I know for sure that you’re suffering from psychosis, I don’t have to talk to you anymore. Good day.
hovercraft
@Iowa Old Lady:
It’s the implication that they will decide that they are democrats and therefore they will eventually fall in line. She wants us to acknowledge that their tantrum may not end, they may hold their breath until they turn blue. They want everyone to give them everything they want or they will make us pay for disrespecting them. They demand we respect them at the same time they are disrespecting our views. The concept of elections having consequences is alien to them at this point. And you know that should Donald win that will be our fault for not listening to them, not on them for staying home. In other words the new Naderites.
the Conster, la Citoyenne
@FIBark:
Scowcroft is not a neocon, thereby proving that my previous statement about Bernie dead enders not knowing anything about politics is true.
Iowa Old Lady
@hovercraft: At this point, the Sanders people have to do what they have to do, and the rest of us should probably get on with trying to elect Clinton. I assume Clinton is doing what she can for Sanders because she’s a politician and knows how this works. Thank god, I’m not the one who has to deal with them.
smith
@hovercraft:
Y’know, this is all starting to sound like the times Obama tried to negotiate with the Rs in Congress, and their idea of compromise turned out to be, “You give us everything we ask for, and like it!”
Mnemosyne
@hovercraft:
Yep. We have to remain nice while they constantly insult us, and any response in kind just proves that we’re the meanies they always said we are.
IOW, they’re 13-year-olds, and we’re supposed to act like their mothers.
(Edited for clarity)
Ruckus
@hovercraft:
You wonder why everyone hates Crappy Not News?
Joel
@FIBark: no one gives a shit about your crank bullshit. Sorry.
Chyron HR
@FIBark:
Meanwhile on planet Earth, a recent poll showed that a quarter of Sanders’ supporters were voting for Trump in November.
What does it say about Bernie that so many Trumpians considered him their first choice?
Baud
@Kay: FWIW, my respect for you is the only reason I’m holding my tongue on Turner.
Jim, Foolish Literalist
The people had a voice when she lost a statewide campaign by 25 points, which does make Bernie!’s (if memory serves) double digit loss in OH Dem primary seem smaller, I guess.
wasn’t Turner also considered a strong Clinton ally until a year ago?
O. Felix Culpa
@Schlemazel Khan: Mmmm…your cake sounds good. I’m getting married in September and need a gluten-free, dairy-free option. Might give this a whirl!
Kay
@Corner Stone:
We had a judicial candidate like her. He ran on “no money from nobody” and publicly criticized the other justices for ruling in line with their donors. He lost a couple of times and then won, but the state Democratic Party tried to knock him out. It was insane what they put him through. There was even a mysterious ethics complaint based on him criticizing the sitting judges in a campaign which he challenged on First Amendment grounds and won. I always felt like it was a “establishment’ campaign against him, that he had offended the natural order or something. He is currently the only liberal on the court so I’d have to say he won that battle :)
Corner Stone
@Kay: I honestly can not make any sense of this analysis re: Turner’s current/recent behavior. Are you saying she’s throwing a tantrum because there are Clinton supporters in the OH D party?
Kay
@Jim, Foolish Literalist:
She was. I don’t know why she went against Clinton but it wouldn’t surprise me if it’s disenchantment w/Democrats in general. It’s not that uncommon in Ohio. A lot of times they’re inept, self-interested jerks.
Kay
@Corner Stone:
Oh God, must you? “Throwing a tantrum”? She’s regal. You’re not allowed to say that :)
I’m saying that being disenchanted as an Ohio Democrat is an occupational hazard and I wouldn’t be surprised if she’s fed up.
Iowa Old Lady
I’m trying to figure out what’s to resent in a claim that the Ds will be united. Does Turner maybe interpret that as a demand that she fall in line?
Corner Stone
@Kay: I didn’t say hysterical. But her behavior is incomprehensible to me and becoming more so the closer we get to the convention. Surely as a devoted ballot box access advocate at some point this really is about uniting and shutting out R’s up and down the ballot?
Schlemazel Khan
@O. Felix Culpa:
It really is good! I need to fiddle with the recipe a bit though, none of them online have enough sugar to use as is, I would go with a sweet frosting or the glaze. Worse though is that the cakes are a bit burnt by the time they are baked through. I would put a foil cover over the top at about 20 minutes. I plan on trying a cooler over (I used 375 despite several recipes calling for 400. I will try 325 and a longer bake, if that does not fix it I may go with a water bath.
Schlemazel Khan
I read something interesting today that just happened last week. The House & Senate held separate luncheons and Bernie went into the GOP one . . . He of course claims it was a mistake . . . If Wills endorsement of Johnson/Weld is proof Hillary is worse than Drumpf than this lunch signals that Sanders is worse than Hitler.
redshirt
@Schlemazel Khan: I’m more surprised Bernie was at the Senate at all.
the Conster, la Citoyenne
@Schlemazel Khan:
It could just mean that he gets lost if Jane isn’t by his side.
Felonius Monk
@Kay:
You mean just like Ohio Republicans. :-)
I think Nina got addicted to the Bernie koolaid and has been hallucinating about her place in the (imagined) new political order. I guess it’s tough coming down off that ledge.
CaseyL
One of these days I may take up birding, at least in the informal manner of “Let’s go somewhere pretty and stay there all day, watching whichever birds happen to wander by.” I love watching birds, but am incapable of picking out the tiny details that distinguish (f’rex) one finch from another.
A couple of years ago I went out to the Nisqually Refuge, and saw some amazing stuff. Fledging wood owls, blue herons all striking supermodel poses, many waterfowl, eagles…. and an eagle who had retaliated against a mob of crows harassing it by killing one of them. The eagle was standing on the ground atop the dead crow, trying to decide what to do with it, while all the crows in the world were gathered on the trees nearby shrieking so loudly I figured people 10 miles away could hear them. Quite a scene.
Re Brexit: I’m getting a big kick out of the fact that US RWNJ are taking a victory lap over the Leave vote just as the British are desperately trying to figure out how to undo it. The architects of Leave have announced that the biggest promises they made about Leaving are no longer operative, Boris Johnson is nowhere to be seen, no one has any plan on how to implement the vote, Scotland and Northern Ireland are making plans to Exit the UK (with Scotland stating it has a right to veto the Leave vote altogether)… the political scene in London right now is Hellsapoppin.
Gimlet
Saw the headline earlier. Details of sad, unnecessary tragedy
http://www.nydailynews.com/news/national/texas-mother-killed-cops-fatally-shooting-daughters-article-1.2687929
Christy Sheats, 42, shot and killed her two young daughters, Taylor, 22, and Madison Sheats, 17, on what neighbors said was their father’s birthday
A family spat started inside the married couple’s Houston-area home and spiraled into gun violence that spilled out onto their street. A witness said the sisters tried escaping with their father, but Taylor collapsed outside the home and Madison was shot in the back. Cops then shot and killed Christy Sheats, who was holding a pistol and refused to drop it.
Jason and Christy Sheats recently reunited after separating, a neighbor told the TV station.
According to Christy Sheats Facebook page, she was a gun owner and vocal advocate for the second amendment. “It would be horribly tragic if my ability to protect myself or my family were to be taken away,” Sheats wrote in March on her Facebook page, “but that’s exactly what Democrats are determined to do by banning semi-automatic handguns.”
Sheats’ husband was not harmed in the shooting, but he was taken to a hospital because he was so emotionally distraught..
Schlemazel Khan
@the Conster, la Citoyenne:
NO! That does not fit my story line! It means Sanders is worse than Hitler!!!!
Schlemazel Khan
I found this hilarious! Drumpf picks ‘mini me’ as his VP.
Schlemazel Khan
@Gimlet:
I commented on this in the morning thread. What could have been the argument worth chasing your kids down and shooting them repeatedly? Why did she let the husband get away? It will be interesting to hear his story.
Meanwhile, I guess the kids should have been armed & then this tragedy would have been prevented!
Kay
@Corner Stone:
Well, no it’s not. Voting rights people are not expressly partisan – I would fully expect a voting rights person to say it’s about the people. This is getting into the weeds but do you remember Jennifer Brunner? Democrat, Ohio Sec of State? Okay, so after she was Sec of State she turned against Democrats and ran as a “liberal” in a Senate primary. It was bizarre because 1. she’s not a liberal and 2. at the same time she was running around saying she could work with Kasich. She lost that primary and then Democrats lost the Senate race and as far as I know she’s back to being an establishment D :)
Gimlet
@Schlemazel Khan:
Cops probably could have wounded the mother or otherwise taken her alive, but it was out in the street not the house at that point.
Baud
@Kay: Kind of reminds me of Howard Dean.
MattF
@Schlemazel Khan: He’d do it if he could.
WaterGirl
@Schlemazel Khan: This is too close to raven’s friend shooting and killing his son just two weeks ago. Beyond sad.
Baud
@WaterGirl: You still pouting or are we good?
Major Major Major Major
We had extra security at SF Pride. “Black Lives Matter” was selected as one of the the Grand Marshals this year, and they dropped out in protest of… the existence of police, I guess? They were fine with a normal police presence but after the increased security was announced suddenly they weren’t OK with the parade. It’s quite bizarre.
And the usual protests about ‘how dare corporations have floats’ and whatnot abound, which of course seeks to erase my identity as a queer capitalist in furtherance of their radical agenda. //
WaterGirl
@Baud: We’re good. I forgot that I was supposed to be pouting. I am a terrible grudge holder!
gogol's wife
@Gimlet:
She protected her family but good.
Mnemosyne
@Schlemazel Khan:
Honestly, it sounds like a fairly common domestic violence situation, though it’s usually the dad who kills the kids and then himself (whether through direct suicide or suicide by cop). And, yes, the point is often to “punish” the other parent by killing the kids.
Baud
@WaterGirl: Yay!
Mnemosyne
@Major Major Major Major:
Were the extra cops from Oakland? I could see that being a problem right now.
raven
@WaterGirl: And another of the “local color” folks died up there this week.
Baud
@Major Major Major Major:
Oppressing the proletariat is so gay.
Mnemosyne
@Schlemazel Khan:
Let us know how the adjustments work. It sounds a little like an Italian olive oil cake since those usually have citrus in them (though they usually also have flour).
raven
@Mnemosyne: The difference in the situation WG mentioned was that the father seemed to think he’d done nothing wrong. There were deep issues here that were accelerated by the death of his wife in the fall.
Gimlet
Same governor trying to cut social welfare benefits that apparently are overly generous.
“Oh honey, it’s all about the money; it’s all about the money,” 58-year-old Ann LePage told CBS affiliate WGME. “I told him (Governor Paul LePage) my money I earn here I’m putting in a kitty. I want to buy a car this summer.”
As governor, LePage’s annual salary is $70,000 a year. The average yearly income for a married-couple family in Maine is about $87,000, according to U.S. Census data.
Corner Stone
@Kay:
I have never met an R that is for expanding access to voting rights. That may just be TX, but I suspect it probably is not.
Kay
So my daughter works at a big Pittsburgh hospital conglomerate and she works weird hours. She parks in an employee lot unless it’s full and then she parks on a street. Last month she got a ticket for street parking because she worked 12 hours or something and that was beyond the street parking allowance/time range. Last night she comes out of work (she’s parked in the giant lot) and there’s an envelope on her car with childish scrawl that reads “if not married” (underlined 3 times) I would like to take you to dinner and a phone number. The flip side of the envelope has “LOL, here’s for the parking ticket” and the envelope has a bunch of ones in it. She takes this inside to get the consensus advice of her co-workers and after telling her it’s “evidence” that she has to keep, one (male) nurse tells her “it’s the cop that wrote the ticket, I bet”
She’s married so the exception on the weird note applies, but I think it’s odd and unsettling.
Major Major Major Major
@Mnemosyne: SFPD, I believe. Certainly didn’t see any Oakland folks myself. We have our own issues but not nearly as bad. And again, they were fine with the normal presence.
From the statements it sort of feels like there was some infighting about it, and the “leave the parade at the last second to try and make a point” side won but maybe in the squeaky-wheel-gets-the-grease sort of way. You know how movementy folks get.
I literally saw a sign that said “NON-MONOGAMY > MANDATORY MINIMUMS” which I guess is true in the mathematical sense. SF is weird.
Mnemosyne
@raven:
I was only referring to the Texas story with that comment about domestic violence — didn’t mean to confuse the issue. The one in Illinois sounded like your friend had a psychotic break or other major mental health issue that didn’t get noticed or addressed until it was too late.
Major Major Major Major
@Baud: Just ask Wilhelm IV.
Baud
@Kay:
It’s a parking ticket. How would the cop know who she is? Very creepy.
Schlemazel Khan
@Gimlet:
conflicting reports from neighbors, some say she was aiming at the kid that was still alive others say at the cops. All the cops will say is “would not put the gun down when ordered”
O. Felix Culpa
@Schlemazel Khan:
Ditto to what Mnem said.
Mnemosyne
@Kay:
If that happened to me, security would be walking me to my car for the foreseeable future. She should talk to her boss and have him/her help her get security on board.
The Lodger
@Schlemazel Khan: We have a yooge bag of almond flour and may make this today. Thanks for the recipe!
Kay
@Baud:
Well, the car. It’s kind of an average car though. It’s my old car. I thought the cop angle was creative and she said the male nurse came up with it immediately, like “obviously it’s the cop”. I wouldn’t think that.
Schlemazel Khan
@Mnemosyne:
Given that there is $13 worth of almonds in each cake and we don’t need gluten free I am thinking I might try wheat flour instead.
@O. Felix Culpa:
I may try to put it in the Friday recipe exchange so that you will know where to look. Probably not this week but somewhere in July.
hovercraft
Hillary was at the NYC pride march, Yay.
I guess she was just pretending to support the LGBT community before she sells them out.
At least 2 million people out there.
WaterGirl
@raven: Not sure what you mean. ?
Iowa Old Lady
@Kay: That would be scary. The cop could trace the plate, I suppose.
Schlemazel Khan
@Kay:
Very unsettling. We have had a a few issues in the Mpls. suburbs in the last few years of stalker cops. I don’t like this at all, they should know better
Baud
@Kay: But how would a cop know that she isn’t some 98 year old dude from the car alone?
Major Major Major Major
@hovercraft: Whatever, she was probably just there to say hi to the corporate floats and wave at Wall Street when they went by. I’ll bet she didn’t even stay for a $12 beer and some mild groping like a real gay person.
WaterGirl
@Mnemosyne: I was just thinking the very same thing.
Gimlet
@hovercraft:
I’m sure I read in an article about Vince Foster that she was gay.
Maybe it was an article in Salon?
rikyrah
Skook
@skookerG
✔️ NOTICE:
Donald Trump’s son-in-law, Jared Kushner, publisher of Observer Media, encourages #BernieOrBust movement
Major Major Major Major
@Gimlet: She’s totes gay with Ms. Crypto-ISIS Huma Abedin-Weiner, didn’t you hear?
Jim, Foolish Literalist
For those of you who made it through the Sunday shows so I wouldn’t have to: Thanks, and, did this come up at all?
ETA: that’s a really strong number if we weren’t living in such overwrought times, hopefully someone (I mean someone paid to do so) will dig in and compare it to Clinton and Reagan at this point in term 2. Probably Benen, first thing tomorrow
Iowa Old Lady
@Baud: That suggests whoever wrote the note saw her. As I say, that would be scary. Mnem is right. Security should walk her to her car.
The Lodger
@Mnemosyne: The cake is a lie!
Baud
@rikyrah: As would I, if I were them. It’s actually one of the few competent things they’ve done.
Kay
@Mnemosyne:
They usually walk in pairs or a group. She needs the money so if they ask her to stay she always does, so my sense is she’s overlapping shifts. I was really stern warning her which I know annoys her -it’s risky, you know, because she’ll get off the phone if she thinks I’m babying her. She’s our only girl and she’s sensitive to the idea she can’t take care of herself but the fact is she’s tiny and a little..drifty, often preoccupied, it’s riskier for her than it is for the others. This is just a fact. It’s not a reflection on her. She’s a smaller person. She’s nice, too. We were out once and a homeless person asked her for money and she said “I don’t have any money but I have a Pop Tart in my bag” and he said “I hope it’s not brown sugar” which I thought was kind of demanding but she was like, “oh, I agree. They’re the worst” She has interactions like this all the time.
Baud
@Jim, Foolish Literalist: Benin will be on it. He’s great.
chopper
took the 7 year old to Seattle pride. beautiful day.
Tom
@hovercraft: The next time someone complains to me about how they hate ‘political correctness’, I’m going to play dumb and make them explain it to me. At the very least, it should be good for a few laughs.
Gimlet
@Iowa Old Lady:
Could have been somebody at work that heard about it, liked what he knew about her and thought it would be a clever pickup.
Tom
@Major Major Major Major:
You owe me a new keyboard.
Baud
WaPo
Don’t let the noise get you down.
Kay
@Baud:
I was happy with that poll. It’s not that it’s predictive, it’s that it’s essential Trump get bad polls because it will drive him fucking crazy. Poll numbers alone may be enough to drive him ’round the bend.
Baud
@Kay: Agree. And we don’t have to deal with the panic that arises whenever there’s a bad poll.
WaterGirl
@Kay:
That story made me tear up. I’m sure you are so proud of her. It’s so screwed up that being a sweet person puts you at risk, but it is what it is. She is lucky to have you for a mom.
WaterGirl
@Tom: Would you settle for a $12 beer or some mild groping? :-)
WaterGirl
They have been promising us rain all day, but the sun is still out and it doesn’t look like rain at all, and the flowers I can see from window are getting crispy. I can only imagine that my tomatoes and peppers have formed a picket line with the zucchini to protest their abuse. So now I get to go out and water in the 90 degree heat. Woe is me.
Baud
@WaterGirl: Stay hydrated.
Mnemosyne
@The Lodger:
I’m surprised it took this long for someone to say that — it was G’s first response.
Suzanne
I have been getting into making my own skin care products. I made some spearmint body butter yesterday, and it is just glorious. This is what I do to avoid going outside. I am eagerly looking forward to Game of Thrones tonight. WOOT!
I really don’t know how I’m going to make it through the rest of the summer. It’s cooled down to only being 110. AAAAHHHHH.
Mnemosyne
@Kay:
Right, but there’s a difference between a generalized you need to be careful from mom and you may have attracted a stalker. When there’s an actual incident, it’s not a good idea to just shrug it off.
The Lodger
@Mnemosyne: Obviously most Juicers have moved on to newer games.
Mnemosyne
@Baud:
Like I keep saying, I think the dead-enders we’re hearing from were always more anti-Hillary than anything else. They’re annoying and persistent, but not numerous.
raven
@WaterGirl: I mean there was a group of folks who hung at the House of Chin and another one died.
Major Major Major Major
@Mnemosyne: that’s been my impression based on Facebook as well. Doesn’t make them any less annoying.
BR
@Suzanne:
Are there recipes you’d recommend?
Chyron HR
@Suzanne:
Me too! The good news is that now I have much less skin to care for.
WaterGirl
@raven: I should have gotten the reference!
Kay
@WaterGirl:
When I’m out with I feel like I have to look around for her and see whatever she’s gotten into :)
She left her phone on the counter at an ice cream place in Pittsburgh and I’m listed as “mom” so they called me. It’s this extremely friendly woman with a heavy Pittsburgh accent and she’s referring to my daughter by her 1st name, like we all know one another. I’m thinking “what goes on with her and this ice cream place? How do they know her name?”
WaterGirl
@Baud: It started thundering after about 20 minutes, so I came in, but I was only about 1/3 of the way through watering so I left the sprinkler on. 15 minutes later it’s still thundering but no rain, so at least I made the right call with the sprinklers!
gogol's wife
@Mnemosyne:
Have you seen this LMM speech? It’s cute. I know some of those people, damn them!
Aleta
@Kay: Could be someone who watches over the parking lot (part of security detail itself?) who’s familiar with some of the employees. In which case, the note would be a job violation. Reasons your daughter might consider as a good enough reason for reporting it: If she believes the writer is somewhat harmless, and he continues to think it’s an OK approach, the next woman might be frightened. She might not want to get the guy in trouble, but he might get into more trouble if someone more upset than she reports him. Or, if it’s already a pattern, and he’s been warned before, it would be best to report. If she believes he might be a childish type who meant no harm, it’s still probably beneficial to him to be told it’s not OK. I guess he can be identified via the phone number, and she can ask that he be treated sympathetically in the case that he is impaired and has no previous record. (There’s a small chance he is a danger to children, so checking whether he has a record might help someone down the line.)
Corner Stone
Fucking NYT.
‘Brexit’ Revolt Casts a Shadow Over Hillary Clinton’s Cautious Path
gogol's wife
@Corner Stone:
I hate them so much. I’m happier when I ignore them. Basically I throw away everything but the crossword puzzle.
Ruckus
@Kay:
I knew a guy who could walk into a bar or restaurant after not having been there for a year and people would recognize him and call out his name, just like with Norm! on Cheers. I would have been there with him (my boss at the time) the year before as well but no one could have picked me out of a line up, let alone know my name. Some people just get that level of attention.
hovercraft
@Jim, Foolish Literalist:
It appears that Obama is slightly ahead of where St Ronnie was at this point in ’88.
The Obama chart is less volatile. And there are way more polls but you can take a look for yourself.
But overall I don’t think the republicans pounding away at Obama as if the nation can’t wait to see the back of him is a mistake. The CW was that crises would help the Donald, it does not seem to be working out that way.
As for the talking heads this morning, they barely mentioned it all they wanted to focus on was the NBC /WallStreet Journal poll only showing her 5 points ahead. The Washington Post poll was brushed off to ask why she is only 5 points up when he has had such a bad month. ‘She’s winning but not winning by enough so she is in trouble’. There was a little push back but not much.
Mnemosyne
@Kay:
She sounds like my dad (who I now realize probably had ADHD like me). He would get into these long conversations with shopkeepers and other virtual strangers and they would be his new best friends. Unfortunately, it was not a skill I ever acquired.
burnspbesq
@FIBark:
There isn’t a shred of evidence, except in your bizarre fantasy world, that neocons will have any influence in a Clinton administration.
You should have paid attention to the warnings about the brown acid.
Jim, Foolish Literalist
@Corner Stone: some chin-stroker was on twitter wondering at the disparity between Obama’s high approval and voters who say we’re on the wrong track, because Obama is the Decider and the only factor in determining what track we’re on.
@hovercraft: whatever happened to Bill Schneider, once (and maybe now) of CNN, who was so good at poring over cross tabs to figure out why all polls were bad news for Democrats, without ever saying flat out white votes are just a little bit more real?
hovercraft
@Corner Stone:
Asshole concern trolls. We are not the UK, and unlike Brexit, Hillary won and it wasn’t that close.
hovercraft
Multiple people stabbed, 6 taken to hospital at planned white supremacist march in Sacramento.
hovercraft
@Jim, Foolish Literalist:
I’ve no idea, but John King and Steve Kornacki seem to be filling that role quite well.
Suzanne
@BR: Here is the body butter that I like. I do body scrub without a recipe—just mix oil (olive, coconut, sweet almond, whatever) with sugar, then add extract or essential oil for fragrance. I like to mix brown and white sugar with vanilla extract for a cookie smell, or white sugar with broken pieces of candy cane and peppermint essential oil at Christmas, and I also like almond extract to smell like biscotti. I also use this to shave my legs and other business after the sugar dissolves. I have curly hair that I color and heat-style, so I like to deep condition, but it’s expensive at the salon, so I make this.
I want to try making face wash next. I use raw honey by itself sometimes, but it doesn’t rinse entirely. I think a blended wash would help. I have tried the oil cleansing method, but I find it too laborious.
Kay
@Mnemosyne:
The ice cream shop incident was in the middle of the day on a weekday. I’m like “is she a REGULAR at the counter there?” They settled on her husband calling the number and saying she’s married and don’t leave notes on her car. Her husband is nice too. Maybe all 3 of them can sort it out, just put him on speaker.
WaterGirl
@Kay: She sounds delightful!
@Kay: I laughed at the idea of all 3 of them sorting it out on speaker phone!
debbie
@Corner Stone:
What’s incomprehensible is the Ohio Democratic Party. You’ll never meet a more GOP-in-lambswool group of politicians. They’re low-level incompetent Keystone Kops.
WaterGirl
@debbie: I would like to hear Kay’s take on the Ohio Democratic Party.