Come for the politics, stay for the snark.

I desperately hope that, yet again, i am wrong.

Within six months Twitter will be fully self-driving.

… gradually, and then suddenly.

Putin must be throwing ketchup at the walls.

Accused of treason; bitches about the ratings. I am in awe.

Stop using mental illness to avoid talking about armed white supremacy.

Stamping your little feets and demanding that they see how important you are? Not working anymore.

You cannot shame the shameless.

Take hopelessness and turn it into resilience.

Republicans in disarray!

Republicans: slavery is when you own me. freedom is when I own you.

There are consequences to being an arrogant, sullen prick.

Too often we hand the biggest microphones to the cynics and the critics who delight in declaring failure.

It’s the corruption, stupid.

It’s all just conspiracy shit beamed down from the mothership.

Let’s not be the monsters we hate.

Speaking of republicans, is there a way for a political party to declare intellectual bankruptcy?

Republicans: “Abortion is murder but you can take a bus to get one.” Easy peasy.

Cancel the cowardly WaPo and set up an equivalent monthly donation to ProPublica.

The revolution will be supervised.

“Just close your eyes and kiss the girl and go where the tilt-a-whirl takes you.” ~OzarkHillbilly

Let the trolls come, and then ignore them. that’s the worst thing you can do to a troll.

Some judge needs to shut this circus down soon.

It may be funny to you motherfucker, but it’s not funny to me.

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  6. 6.

    Punchy

    And yet Bernie Sanders has neither quit nor thrown his support to Hillz. What an incredibly shitty d-bag he’s shown himself to be.

    Imagine her lead if/when the BS crowd decides to back Las Clintonayes.

  7. 7.

    Procopius

    Pfui. Show me the polls from October. Or at least September. That’ll be some information. This is hypotheticals all the way down.

  8. 8.

    Baud

    @BillinGlendaleCA: I read a story that donors are reluctant to give to Hillary right now because they are afraid that Trump won’t be the nominee and they don’t want their money to go to waste.

  10. 10.

    Cermet

    AS I said a few weeks ago and continue to say, Hillary, short of self destructing, will win; the Senate will most likely change hands and the house will remain thug but weaker.

  11. 11.

    Chyron HR

    Just in: Obama and Clinton will hold their first campaign rally together on Tuesday. Charlotte, North Carolina.

    HOW DARE HE??? SHE ISN’T THE NOMINEE YET!!!!!!

  13. 13.

    Punchy

    @Cermet: Imagine the hyper-Lib SCOTUS nom HRC could get if this happ’d. Of course, the Senate would have to eliminate judicial fillys, because the Senate repubs would go that route for likely anyone she tapped.

  14. 14.

    Central Planning

    I bet Hilary wins by YUGE margins and the Republicans will claim that was NOT a mandate

  15. 15.

    bystander

    Moanin’ Joe is in a frenzy. Bill Clinton held up his plane yesterday to meet with Loretta Lynch. No report, however, that he was carrying a large sack with a big dollar sign on it.

  16. 16.

    Baud

    @Chyron HR:

    I realized recently that a President isn’t elected until the electors vote sometime in December. So by celebrating Obama’s wins on election night, we were perpetuating an oppressive and rigged system.

  17. 17.

    David ?Canadian Anchor Baby? Koch

    Fox News Polls — Presidential Race

    May 17 — Clinton (42%)…..Trump (45%)

    Jun 08 — Clinton (42%)…..Trump (39%)

    Jun 28 — Clinton (44%)…..Trump (38%)

    That’s a 9 point shift in 6 weeks.

    9 points or as Andrea Mitchell would say, a tie.

  18. 18.

    OzarkHillbilly

    I see Betty touched a nerve yesterday. I think I’ll pass on reading the comments.

  21. 21.

    David ?Canadian Anchor Baby? Koch

    Washington (CNN) Donald Trump said Wednesday that he would kill the families of terrorists in order to win the fight against ISIS.

    You can see how Susan Sarandon and Tim Robbins are so attracted to Trump’s vision.

  23. 23.

    Cermet

    @Punchy: Reid has clearly and on the record stated that if any SC nominee is filibustered by the thugs (assuming the Senate is taken by the Dems) then the nuclear option will be used – period.

    By the way, Hillary can easily win without Florida but if Florida stays in her column, game over – the rump has blown his last gas relative to his chances for POTUS.

  28. 28.

    gene108

    @bystander:

    No one else is reporting planes being held up.

    This ain’t 1993, flight records can be looked up quickly and right-wing rumors don’t get the same mileage that they used to.

  30. 30.

    Schlemazel Khan

    @Punchy:
    No need for a filibuster, all it takes is for one senator to put a ‘hold’ on the nomination. It is a gentlemans club after all

  32. 32.

    magurakurin

    @Punchy:

    Imagine her lead if/when the BS crowd decides to back Las Clintonayes.

    no different. Bernie’s endorsement won’t do shit now. He missed his chance.

  33. 33.

    Cermet

    @OzarkHillbilly: Oops, forgot and you are absolutely correct and I am wrong (does happen …) – I stand corrected even without reading your comment …

  35. 35.

    David ?Canadian Anchor Baby? Koch

    MSNBC’s Mika Brzezinski quietly divorces her husband three years after co-anchor Joe Scarborough split from his wife

    ***

    An ‘NBC insider’ told Page Six on Wednesday that the pair’s relationship is “‘the worst kept secret in TV.”

    Wow.

    I have only watched the show a handful of times, so I don’t follow the show’s dynamics. But after Trump’s racist meltdown over the judge in his fraud case I started watching for the priceless schadenfreude.

    On Monday, there was a moment when they seemed to be intimate with each other in their communications. I thought to myself: “woah! This is way over the line. There is a big difference btwn 2 people working closely together and 2 people being intimate. Man, I hope her husband is not watching.”

    Little did I know.

  37. 37.

    The Thin Black Duke

    @magurakurin: Why do I have the feeling that when Hillary is elected President, Bernie’s gonna spend the next four years barking loudly and chewing at her ankles?

  38. 38.

    JMG

    It’s my birthday today. Never you mind the number, I admit I’m old. But I’m driving to the Cape to play golf and eat seafood today, so politics will be blessedly in my rear view mirror. At least that way I know I’m standing with a vast majority of my fellow citizens.

  42. 42.

    Baud

    Speaking of bitcoin

    In its early conception, Bitcoin was to exist beyond the control of any single government or country. It would be based everywhere and nowhere.

    Yet despite the talk of a borderless currency, a handful of Chinese companies have effectively assumed majority control of the Bitcoin network. They have done so through canny investments and vast farms of computer servers dispersed around the country. The American delegation flew to Beijing because that was where much of the Bitcoin power was concentrated.

    At the time of the meeting, over 70 percent of the transactions on the Bitcoin network were going through just four Chinese companies, known as Bitcoin mining pools — and most flowed through just two of those companies. That gives them what amounts to veto power over any changes to the Bitcoin software and technology.

  43. 43.

    Senyordave

    I feel like I should apologize on behalf of white males. My guess is that some of my brethren are still yearning for the days of yore, when simply being a white male gave you elevated status.

  46. 46.

    JMG

    @Baud: Thanks for the good wishes, but your image of Joe and Mika is gonna be stuck in my head all the way down Route 3 this morning.

  47. 47.

    David ?Canadian Anchor Baby? Koch

    @Baud: Digya ever hear how a Koch Bros front group produced a video of 2 interns having sex, one dressed as a panda and 1 wearing a Hillary mask.

    FreedomWorks Made Video of Fake Giant Panda Having Sex With Fake Hillary Clinton (link)

    The not so invisible hand at work.

  48. 48.

    sherparick

    @The Thin Black Duke: That won’t be such a bad thing if he chewing at her ankles about the minimum wage, public university/community college tuition support, keeping us out of Syria, spending on infrastructure, etc. However, in the end I expect he will find that he will have to chew Mitch McConnell’s, John Coryn, and other Senate Republicans a lot more.

  51. 51.

    Patricia Kayden

    @Senyordave:

    when simply being a white male gave you elevated status.

    Being a White male still elevates your status.

    @JMG: Happy B’Day! Hope it’s lovely for you.

  53. 53.

    Cermet

    @Baud: Generally, just myself, it seems but sometimes people who comment back to me.
    I see you are losing (badly) to Hillary, by the way.

  55. 55.

    Mustang Bobby

    Good morning. I am dealing with PIGBARF today. That’s short for Paradoxical Inverse Grant Benefit And Return Frustration. It’s that weird thing that happens when a tiny grant for a piddling amount of money takes up more time and energy than it is worth. Whee.

    And it’s the last day of the fiscal year so everyone who let their grant funds get unspent will be trying desperately to get them encumbered before the end of the day. Double Whee.

  56. 56.

    Baud

    @Cermet: I’ve conceded (unlike some people). I’m now in the process of regrouping and biding my time until Hillary is indicted for tearing the tags off the White House mattresses.

  61. 61.

    debbie

    @bystander:

    I know I’ll be in the minority here, but the news of this meeting this morning really ticks me off. I’m sure it was innocent, but here they go again, giving the Right more ammunition. What is it with Clintons and an inability to weigh consequences? (“I want a blow job. Right now.” “Carry two phones? They’re too heavy.”) This stupid meeting will knock the news of the nothingness of the Benghazi hearings off the stage.

    Clinton has my vote, but I am not looking forward to the next 4 years being more aggravating than the last 8.

  62. 62.

    Cermet

    @Baud: Oh, I forgot about (both) that law and your concession speech.

    By the way, when she is, and you replace her, can I get a pardon? It appears I too am guilty of that crime (removing the labels off cushions.) But in my defense, I was a teen and rebellious; I couldn’t resist and besides, it was just one damn tag! Honest (well, maybe not.)

  64. 64.

    Joel

    I plugged this story last night. It hits close to home, as I know the professor involved (through professional acquaintance only, thankfully). I also know plenty of professors with similarly questionable behavior, although perhaps not as egregious.

    “He Thinks He’s Untouchable”

    n the summer of 2014, as Ebola ravaged West Africa and unleashed panic across the U.S., Michael Katze was a voice of reason. As head of one of the biggest virus labs in the country, he frequently appeared on TV news spots — sharply dressed, with his signature black glasses and deep tan — preaching calm in the face of fear.
    But away from the cameras, the University of Washington lab in Seattle that Katze had led for nearly 30 years was descending into chaos. Over the next year, one of his most important collaborators severed its $1.2 million partnership. Employees left in droves. And a lab administrator filed charges accusing him of sexually harassing her and a colleague. In August 2015, the university banned Katze from entering his own lab. (…)

    One of the employees was an administrator whom Katze had hired, at an unusually high salary, on the implicit condition that she submit to his sexual demands. He personally rewarded this woman, known as Mary Roe in some court documents, with “thousands or even tens of thousands” of dollars a year in cash and gifts, the investigation found.

    The university found that Katze also sexually harassed another administrative employee, known as Jane Doe in court documents. According to the investigations, Katze asked her to clean his apartment, purchase marijuana and Percocet for him, email escorts and place personal ads for him, and “schedule his manicures, pedicures, haircuts, and hair lightening appointments.” Meanwhile, he joked about having sex with her, made sexual comments about her appearance, sent her sexually suggestive emails, and, on two occasions, tried while drunk to kiss or touch her.

  65. 65.

    BillinGlendaleCA

    I think I’m going to make another attempt at visiting UCLA today. I also might stop by the Westwood Village Cemetery, there’s some interesting folk buried there.

  68. 68.

    Patricia Kayden

    @I’mNotSureWhoIWantToBeYet: Boris is not that stupid. Anyone who becomes the Prime Minister is in for a hard time given what BREXIT has done to the British economy. Wonder who will fall on the sword and assume that position. Would have to be someone who doesn’t care how long he lasts as PM.

  69. 69.

    OzarkHillbilly

    @debbie:

    This stupid meeting will knock the news of the nothingness of the Benghazi hearings off the stage.

    Why? Dems talk to other Dems all the time. What’s the big deal? That the GOP will try to make hay out of it? When have they ever not? At this point, nobody is listening.

  71. 71.

    Baud

    @OzarkHillbilly: The current big story is about how Huma testified that the server had IT glitches. Whoopdedoo. I’m surprised they haven’t started playing ominous music in he background whenever they report on the Clintons.

  73. 73.

    Patricia Kayden

    @OzarkHillbilly: I agree with you, especially that all these Clinton “scandals” are duds (and kind of boring to boot). No one is interested in any “scandal” while the Orange Bigot is running for President. But I guess the media has to report on each “scandal” to appease Conservatives and appear fair.

  76. 76.

    Cermet

    @Baud: Thanks! You’ll get my vote then (but not as quid pro quo …don’t want you impeached. At least until I get my pardon.) Didn’t realize that the tag crime problem was so wide spread! Really, everyone has done it? And I thought I was just the only one (besides Hillary’s future crime of tag removal.)

  78. 78.

    OzarkHillbilly

    @Baud: I’m surprised they haven’t passed a law that makes IT glitches retroactively illegal.

  89. 89.

    Bill E Pilgrim

    @bystander:

    Moanin’ Joe is in a frenzy. Bill Clinton held up his plane yesterday

    On first reading that made me picture Bill with a mask, like a Dennis Moore thing.

    Stealing from the clueless and giving to the even more clueless..

  90. 90.

    I'mNotSureWhoIWantToBeYet

    @Baud: Donnie might be some competition. He’s pretty good at breaking stuff and getting rich in the process.

    “Vote Trump! He’ll bring back the Great Smog!! Crunchy air for everyone!!!”

    How can you compete with that?!?

    Cheers,
    Scott.

  93. 93.

    Matt McIrvin

    @debbie: The only people who regard association with Loretta Lynch as indicative of villainy are deep in the conservative epistemic bubble already. Nobody who isn’t either a right-wing conspiracy nut or a politics/government junkie even knows who she is. Arguably that is a sad state of affairs, but I don’t think this story is going to have legs.

  98. 98.

    Matt McIrvin

    @Matt McIrvin: I stand corrected: evidently people in the Bernie-or-Bust epistemic bubble also regard meetings with Loretta Lynch as ipso facto indicative of villainy, on the basis of certain social-media conversations.

    They are really becoming increasingly indistinguishable from conservative fever-swamp inhabitants.

  103. 103.

    hovercraft

    @Chyron HR:
    Don’t worry I’m sure he’ll announce a joint rally with Bernie any day now, any minute now, any……….
    Oh right he lost. No soup for you.

  109. 109.

    Kay

    @Matt McIrvin:

    I agree but Bill Clinton is a pain in the neck. I was just thinking yesterday that he hadn’t done anything to attract attention to himself for the last couple of months so we were probably due for an outbreak.

  112. 112.

    Barb2

    This GOP manufactured hate of Obama and Clinton is an example of Fox news brainwashing or covert mind control used by cults to control the masses. (See the book “Snapping” current edition for more info.)

    I almost fell for this during the Clinton Presidency, back when I watched TV. I realized that I had really negative feeling toward Hillary Clinton. No facts – just emotion. Why? Somehow my emotional memory had been filled with false memories. More research and I found the false narratives – the Sunday morning political shows. Different guests but same propaganda.

    As we all now know the GOP started their hate campaign against Hillary 25 years ago. As referenced by Senator Warren on Monday. Those lies are ingrained and repeated as fact. Manufactured unfavorably rankings – lies. Most people have no idea that they are being manipulated.

    Merely repeating Clinton’s -“unfavorable” ratings reinforces the lie.

    Vox.Com wrote something about this.

  117. 117.

    Emma

    Can I ask if there’s definite proof of this Bill thing or are we talking $400 haircut again?

  118. 118.

    a hip hop artist from Idaho (fka Bella Q)

    @Kay:

    we were probably due for an outbreak.

    That’s a delightfully clever – and apt – description. Thanks.

  120. 120.

    hovercraft

    @I’mNotSureWhoIWantToBeYet:
    Aww, this is what happens when the dog catches the car. Latching onto xenophobia for political gain at the expense of your country is dangerous and might just come back to bite you in the ass. Couldn’t happen to a nicer guy.

  128. 128.

    Agorabum

    50% of white people for Trump? What the heck? Although I wonder what the numbers look like with the south taken out (no offense to the good ones, yall).
    To the minorities – you saved us from palin. You saved us from Romney. And it looks like you’ll save us from Trump. Thanks!

  129. 129.

    Kay

    @Barb2:

    People really aren’t rational. We had a series of judicial candidates come talk to the local Dem Party- they want the central committee to vote to endorse them. One of them was just a really stand out candidate- not politically but substantively. The group rejected him and chose the one they “liked”. I was “but WHY do you like him?” “We just do”

    Okey doke. He should definitely be a judge then. You want to have a beer with him.

  132. 132.

    Baud

    @Kay:

    One of them was just a really stand out candidate- not politically but substantively. The group rejected him and chose the one they “liked”. I was “but WHY do you like him?” “We just do”

    Story of my career.

  134. 134.

    Baud

    @satby: Aw, thanks. Hanging out on a top-10K blog may not be career enhancing, but I wouldn’t trade it for all the “likes” in the world.

  136. 136.

    Betty Cracker

    I don’t understand the problem with Bill Clinton chatting with Loretta Lynch at an airport. BC can be a loose cannon, so I understand the reflexive flinchiness to an extent. But if a former president and AG end up at the same airport at the same time, they aren’t allowed to speak to each other because some wingnut might freak out? Do we really want to let the lunatic fringe’s capacity for imagining conspiracies govern ex- and current officials’ behavior? What am I missing?

  139. 139.

    Baud

    @OzarkHillbilly: Same here. I am the qualified but disliked person in that story, not the other guy.

    ETA: Metaphorically speaking, of course. I wasn’t literally that guy.

  141. 141.

    rikyrah

    @Kay:

    I was just thinking yesterday that he hadn’t done anything to attract attention to himself for the last couple of months so we were probably due for an outbreak.

    I hear you, Kay.

  142. 142.

    rikyrah

    @Kay:

    We had a series of judicial candidates come talk to the local Dem Party- they want the central committee to vote to endorse them. One of them was just a really stand out candidate- not politically but substantively. The group rejected him and chose the one they “liked”. I was “but WHY do you like him?” “We just do”

    This makes me sad. Turning down excellent candidates.

  144. 144.

    Emma

    @Betty Cracker: Supposedly he “held up the plane” to talk to her. It seems there have never been plane delays for regular reasons in the history of American commercial aviation.

    Of course, those of us to remember the $400 haircut and the… what the hell was it that Hillary held up?… are a little leery of believing it. And I am getting pissed at people I really respect for AGAIN immediately buying into Republican spin.

  146. 146.

    Kay

    @Baud:

    I’m shameless so after failing to persuade them on substantive grounds I went to Plan B -“he has a new baby!”

    If he had given me baby pictures I would have passed them around.

  147. 147.

    The Ancient Randonneur

    @Betty Cracker:

    What am I missing?

    Any current or former public official with the surname Clinton requires additional scrutiny. How else are going to get the readership. It has worked for them for more the a quarter century. Why stop now. Careate a little smoke and the haters will be convinced a fire exists somewhere.

  148. 148.

    hovercraft

    @Patricia Kayden:
    The scandal stories will only work on those already inclined to hat ‘the Clintons’ and on the media who always believe that this time will be the one when one of these scandals turns out to be real. I mean a server with glitches, next thing you’ll be telling me that water is wet. Who knew?

  149. 149.

    Immanentize

    Morning all. Just a few notes:
    Happy birthday! JMG and belated Reddirtgirl
    The Cape is great this time of year — except the Sagamore Bridge.

    Baud, I would still write you in because I am a Baud for Bank kinds voter– if the future of the Iniverse didn’t depend on a Hill victory…. Sorry, Man.

    And today, visiting in sweltering Texas, I am off with my son to the Art Car Museum and the Orange House and maybe the Beer Can House in Houston just to get a bit of Americana under my belt. Any other crazy places we should visit nin or near Houston?

  151. 151.

    Barb2

    Trump – text book example of Narcissistic personality.

    Republicans running for office, he thinks they should be banned from running for office if they don’t endorese his mighty wonderfulness. According to Talking Points Memo. I guess he thinks he is King Trump.

    So – has he returned to the manic phase? He does seem to cycle between manic and almost “normal”. My theory is that he is both Narcissistic and bipolar. Or just a version of dementia?

    The long winded word salads that no one can understand is typical of the manic phase of people who suffer from bipolar disorder. My sister is bipolar plus schizophrenic – her manic ramblings were similar to the stuff coming out of Trump’s mouth. He has no mind/mouth filter.

    Yes – it is proper and correct to discuss Trump’s mental health. If we don’t recognize Narcissistic Personalities Then we will be harmed at some point by a grifter Narcissistic personality.

  152. 152.

    gene108

    @Matt McIrvin:

    The only people who regard association with Loretta Lynch

    When I first saw the name I thought of Loretta Lynn, the country singer.

  153. 153.

    hovercraft

    @Baud:
    There are several openings in the shadow government that might suit you as you get the lay of the land, before you take over as the PM in September.

  155. 155.

    Fair Economist

    @rikyrah:

    It is a Fox poll, people.

    Normally Fox is pretty good with its polling. I guess they don’t want to lie about something they can get caught for so quantitatively. BUT, this poll looks skewed to Trump to me. Compared to 2012 results, Hillary’s margin is about 10% better with whited, 15% better with Hispanics and 10% worse with blacks, which should produce an improvement of her overall margin by about 8%. But it’s actually up by only 3% (4% in 2012, 7% in the poll). Obama +8%, which is supported by the subgroups, would be the landslide we’re looking for.

    Edit – they might be using 2014 weightings, which would probably generate about this result, while providing Fox plausible deniability.

  156. 156.

    Kay

    @Barb2:

    I think Trump is a textbook example of “privilege”. He never suffered any consequences for what he says and does. Never. His whole life. He takes the risk, other people get hurt. That’s a real luxury. Very few people get away with that.

  157. 157.

    The Ancient Randonneur

    @Kay:

    I think Trump is a textbook example of “privilege”. He never suffered any consequences for what he says and does. Never. His whole life. He takes the risk, other people get hurt. That’s a real luxury. Very few people get away with that.

    And sometimes he didn’t even take a personal risk in when the wellbeing of others was at stake. Via the NY Times:

    Together, the exaggerated claims about his own role, the checkered pasts of the people with whom he went into business and the theft of intellectual property at the venture’s heart all illustrate the fiction underpinning so many of Mr. Trump’s licensing businesses: Putting his name on products and services — and collecting fees — was often where his actual involvement began and ended.

  158. 158.

    What Have the Romans Ever Done for Us?

    I read an article the other day that basically said that Democratic donors are sitting on the sidelines right now, because their biggest fear is that Hillary’s advertising blitz will tank Trump’s poll numbers so badly that the Republicans will have no choice but to nominate someone else at the convention. If that’s your worst problem you’re not doing too bad.

    These polls are proof, if anything, that white supremacists should be called white inferiorists – whites are the only demographic the majority of which supports Trump. If that’s not proof that we’re intellectually inferior I don’t know what is.

    Speaking of cranky old white guys, these polls are diminishing Bernie’s leverage by the minute. He should have struck while the iron was hot in mid-May. At this point Hillary doesn’t need his endorsement, she’ll win in a walk anyway.

  159. 159.

    Enhanced Voting Techniques

    @David ?Canadian Anchor Baby? Koch:

    Washington (CNN) Donald Trump said Wednesday that he would kill the families of terrorists in order to win the fight against ISIS.

    Hmm haven’t both Obama and Hilary shown they don’t have even the slightest concern over who might be paling around with a terrorist when the Hellfire missile hits? Only in Conservatard land will that play for Trump.

  160. 160.

    Kay

    One of my husband’s brothers was a Trumpster. He’s a commercial painting contractor in Los Angeles. He works hard and he’s been really successful. His entire crew is Latino, including the second in command (second after him- he’s the Prez). He just emailed me to tell me he’s voting for Johnson “the libertarian candidate”.

    I’m kind of curious why he switched but I’m not sure it matters. His wife is a great person and her family has been involved in California Dem politics for generations. I asked her once how she could bear her Right wing husband and she told me “Chris doesn’t vote” – sly smile :)

  161. 161.

    ruemara

    @debbie: yes, you are in the minority. As if you can even confirm there was a meeting for you to be so upset about.

    @rikyrah: you don’t have to be a Stan to wonder what hell you both are so upset about.

  162. 162.

    Immanentize

    @What Have the Romans Ever Done for Us?: The reason I don’t buy this report is that there really is no reason in this scenario to sit on the sidelines. Hillary and the DNC cannot coordinate until after the official nomination, so money now is different than money after the nomination. It is perhaps true that some, who are maxed in the primary, are waiting for the general fundraising season. But why would one not donate if hey feared a bigger threat down the road? I think I would go all in now? I really don’t get the logic of the “donors are on the sidelines” ‘reporting.’

  167. 167.

    Immanentize

    @Kay: Totally agree. One of the great privileges of privilege is that hurtful behavior rarely comes back to bite the hurter. Look at that Professor/Researcher at U.Dub as prime example for today….

  169. 169.

    hovercraft

    @Immanentize:
    On top of that donors know that it’s important to win back the senate, and her joint fundraising fund is part of the strategy to do so. Not buying it either, unless it’s a plant to scare more people in to donating.

  172. 172.

    Fair Economist

    @Betty Cracker: They’re desperate for anything negative to say about Clinton. Nice Polite Republicans spent time this morning on how one of the most famously sociable and talkative Presidents ever stopped to chat with a cabinet officer. Horrors! But the truth is, it’s the best slime they’ve got, weak as it is. Viewed honestly, Hillary is very good.

  174. 174.

    Ruckus

    @sherparick:
    But he won’t be gumming about those issues. He’ll be going on about single payer as the end all, be all. His audience will be 4 white guys who think he’ll have a chance to win the nomination, in July 2017, because no one ever explained losing to them.

  175. 175.

    Davebo

    @Immanentize:

    I’d probably skip the Orange House but the Art Car museum is fun! Swing by the Menil and Rothko Chapel if you get the chance.

  178. 178.

    Kay

    I love 5th graders. Not taking any bullshit “charity” from Trump:

    In a chapter about his scheduling secrets, Trump talks about an award as “Principal for a Day” at an elementary school in the Bronx, New York’s P.S. 70. Trump offered the students a drawing to see how many would win coupons for a free pair of Nike shoes from the store in Trump Tower.
    While many students were excited about it, others had problems. The school’s chess team was desperate to reach fundraising goals so they could go to a national tournament. Another student pointed out that picking up the sneakers meant taking a bus all the way across town to get to Trump Tower. But the best came from a student who thought the whole idea was dumb.
    “Why did you offer us sneakers if you could give us scholarships?” asked Andres Rodriguez, a fifth-grader whose father had died and whose mother couldn’t work because she had a bad leg, MoJo cites New York Times.
    “I asked because school is more important than sneakers, but he didn’t really answer,” he told the New York Daily News.

    Imagine if the adults had called him on some of this stuff at any time over his entire life.

  180. 180.

    yellowdog

    @The Thin Black Duke: Two years. He is up for reelection in 2018 and he already has at least one person ready to challenge him. Who ever goes up against Sanders (primary if he is still a Dem or general as a Dem running against Sander (I) will have a LOT of backing.

  181. 181.

    MomSense

    @bystander:

    Joe’s just jealous that he isn’t the one in the big plane keeping everyone else waiting. He covets the oval office and all the trappings that go with it.

    I bet his face took on a particularly envious shade of green while he complained about it.

  182. 182.

    Barb2

    Fixing phones and tables.

    First you need to be a fix it person. This can be done. Check YouTube videos for the same model phone or tablet. This is about battery replacement – the damn things aren’t rated for more than 500 recharges. Phones and tablets are designed to be non repairable. But this does stop those of us who hate to spend hundred of $ for a new phone. I researched YouTube and forums on repairing phones, sent links to spousal unit – see other handy guys are taking apart Kindles.

    Check the videos – most likely someone is sharing how to replace batteries. You will need a good set of micro tools – Amazon has a selection. There are several places selling replacement batteries – telling us that reviving phones and tablets is possible.

    The hard part is opening the case.
    If you have an old phone practice getting the thing open.

    I didn’t gut my Kindle – the spousal unit did. He got a good set of micro tools. It worked until the battery gave out again – it is now waiting for another battery transplant. My lap tops are also awaiting repairs. I’m using a back up/back up Samsung Tablet. Next back up is a Samsung camera/wifi enabled.

    The Samsung camera has a easily removable battery. So there is no excuse for planned obsolescence of smart phones and tablets. Also handy spousal units are keepers.

    Check with your neighbors for references – teenagers – budding Engineers or kids who love to take things apart. You might be lucky to have a whiz kid in your neighborhood!

    Probably way more information than anyone wants. But geee it was so great to beat the planned obsolescence gang.

    There ought to be a law…..

  184. 184.

    hovercraft

    I’m not sure if this is funny or frightening.
    Via TPM
    An ISIS web forum discussing the pro and more pros of a President Drump.

    One such discussion began with a meme posted by a user of a homeless person in California holding a sign that says “Give me $$$ or I will vote for Trump,” which the commenter captioned, “even the American beggar knows the danger of Trump on the Americans.”

    The replies that followed predicted that Trump “ will be a disaster to America,” while celebrating that he could bring the end-of-days battle in Syria that jihadists call for.

    “Trump’s governance will be the destroyer of America and its traitor Arab allies,” one commenter said.

  185. 185.

    germy

    Re: Scandals.

    I visit balloon-juice and LGM and a few other places, and I read the most outrageous scandals about Trump. The latest I suppose is the requests for donations from UK politicians (!?). I also (out of habit and because we don’t have cable TV) watch the nightly TV news. ABC and CBS mostly. Also my local TV news that feeds into the national stuff. And I rarely see the Trump scandals reported.

    If Hillary sneezes, they’ll do their sneezegate reporting. There’s also the subliminal stuff that makes me sound insane if I mention it, but I will anyway: ABC’s story on the final findings of Trey Gowdy’s committee. “What did they learn about who was at fault?” the announcer intones over a photo of Hillary. So if you’re an average viewer, you’re left with the impression “She did something wrong.” The way they word their news pieces and their use of visuals. It’s subliminal propaganda.

    If I didn’t read this blog and a few others, I wouldn’t know about all the bullshit happening with Trump’s campaign. Instead I’d be left with the impression “Well, he’s a plain-speaking businessman with some maybe controversial ideas who wants to shake up the establishment, while Hillary is an ambitious, career politician with some shady dealings in her past.

    I can’t wait to vote. I’m hoping for a landslide so the network news can’t call it a “squeaker” and delegitimatize her administration. And I’d love to see Yertle stripped of any power to obstruct.

  186. 186.

    Betty Cracker

    @Kay: One of my uncles was Trump-curious early in the election season but has also moved on to Johnson. He voted for Obama in 2008 and some third-party crank in 2012. He would never vote for Hillary in a million years (Fox News viewer), but I am heartened that he abandoned his original position on Trump, i.e., “he doesn’t really mean all that racist crap he’s saying — it’s just an opening bid in a negotiation,” and will now harmlessly throw away his vote.

  188. 188.

    MomSense

    @a hip hop artist from Idaho (fka Bella Q):

    Hey I promise I will email AL to get you my email and to provide some pupdates. GAH but work has been exhausting and my backyard deck way too inviting. Even my neighbors are taken in and keep stopping by to sip wine and visit. It has been quite lovely actually.

  189. 189.

    Chyron HR

    @Ruckus:

    His audience will be 4 white guys who think he’ll have a chance to win the nomination, in July 2017, because no one ever explained losing to them.

    Apparently SOMEBODY doesn’t understand how Presidential elections work. After the so-called “general election” in November comes the “contested electoral college”. We don’t KNOW who the President is until December, so Bernie won’t be conceding even if Hillary is the presumptive president-elect.

    About a month later we’ll have a “contested inauguration”, so even if the Democratic Establishment Elites corrupt the electors’ ballots, Bernie won’t be conceding because he could still be sworn into office in January 2017.

    A year after that comes the “contested state of the union address”…

  190. 190.

    different-church-lady

    @Cermet:

    I see you are losing (badly) to Hillary, by the way.

    Not badly — Baud is losing brilliantly!

  191. 191.

    rikyrah

    NBC NEWS:

    Trump said he forgave loans to campaign, but won’t release proof.

    ………………

    I and others have said it. NO WAY he forgave those loans. and, the GOP Donor Class knows it, because THEY KNOW HIM. And, they will NOT be opening their checkbooks to this con man. They are not the rubes that show up at his rallies.

  192. 192.

    Kay

    Today’s Trump campaign lie:

    When Donald Trump said last Thursday he was forgiving over $45 million in personal loans he made to his campaign, the announcement drew plenty of coverage. Many even reported Trump’s statement as if the deal was done.
    But it’s not.
    A week later, NBC News has learned the FEC has posted no record of Trump converting his loans to donations. The Trump Campaign has also declined requests to share the legal paperwork required to execute the transaction, though they suggest it has been submitted.

    Trump himself told this lie yesterday. Then just to make sure he Tweeted it again.

  193. 193.

    germy

    @Betty Cracker: I watched Samantha Bee’s segment on the libertarian convention. I also watched her one-one-one interview with Johnson.

    I’m not entirely sure he isn’t a comedian. The other libertarian candidates at the convention were all weird in their own ways (and the young dude was scary; not the guy who banged on the lectern, the other young dude in the suit who was trying to ooze charisma, but came across instead as quietly psychotic). But Johnson was like Doodles Weaver or Ish Kabible. Or a lost Ritz Brother.

  194. 194.

    Immanentize

    @Davebo: Thanks!! The Rothko Chapel is one of my favorite places ever. My wife is from Houston and we used to go there on dates about 20 years ago…. Some thought that odd.

    But getting my 15 year old son to spend any moments in contemplation is a struggle.

  198. 198.

    Kay

    @Betty Cracker:

    Your uncle sounds more engaged than my husband’s brother. He doesn’t have a clue why he “supports” these people. He likes “winners” so he probably figured out Trump is a likely loser.

    I have two Right wing brothers in law. The other one is a banker. He loved Mitt Romney. My mother in law is a Democrat and she deliberately seats me next to them because she is an instigator. :)

  199. 199.

    rikyrah

    @Kay:

    Trump himself told this lie yesterday. Then just to make sure he Tweeted it again.

    Now, I don’t know the ins and outs of campaign finance.

    Accepting federal funds doesn’t begin until you are the official nominee, right?

    I’ve said it, and will stand by it.

    He’s never forgiven those loans.

    One way or another – from the rubes, or from public financing – he’s going to get back that $45 million he ‘loaned’ the campaign.

  201. 201.

    Barb2

    Well damn – you mean we can’t believe a thing Trump says? Like when he announced he is forgiving is own loan to his campaign.

    Geee whiz I almost believed.

    His followers believe.

  202. 202.

    Gin & Tonic

    @rikyrah: Trump’s entire working life has been based on spending other people’s money. He’s not about to change now.

  203. 203.

    Immanentize

    @schrodinger’s cat: @Barb2: This is so right on. The whole maker movement includes the credo — “If you can’t open/fix it, you don’t own it.”

    My son was actually doing iphone battery replacements as a small side-job in the 8th grade! Find a geeky kid near you, buy the part, and they will whip it out in no time for 10 bucks.

    But it is fun to do yourself, I just replaced the screen of my laptop after I crushed it somehow. It cost me $45 instead of $160. But you do need some micro tools….

  205. 205.

    different-church-lady

    @schrodinger’s cat: The guy who was in charge of facilities at my school had a sign in his office: “IF IT JAMS, FORCE IT. IF IT BREAKS, IT NEEDED FIXING ANYWAY.”

    It made me kind of fearless when it came to opening cases.

  206. 206.

    hovercraft

    @germy:
    He told us that he would improve Americas image around the world. He is a true strong leader, ready to lead America into a bright new future. What can Obama do? Only get standing ovations from those namby pamby Canadians, pah!

  207. 207.

    Terry chay

    @sherparick: right now he is carping about bailing out Puerto Rico and GMO labeling… So no, he is not going to add anything to the debate other than something for Republicans to laugh at.

  210. 210.

    different-church-lady

    @Immanentize:

    The Cape is great this time of year — except the Sagamore Bridge.

    I know what you mean: hardly any room to spread out your towel on that thing, never mind a beach chair or umbrella.

  211. 211.

    hovercraft

    @rikyrah:
    I’ sure the big gop donors are aware of the limits on matching funds, and know that even if he had forgiven the loans (which I doubt he did) he would find a way to repay himself. Grifters know grifters.

    From the FEC

    PRIMARY MATCHING FUNDS

    Partial public funding is available to presidential primary candidates in the form of federal matching payments. Candidates seeking their party’s nomination to the presidency can qualify to receive matching funds by raising at least $5,000 in each of 20 states. Only contributions from individuals, and only contributions up to $250, are matchable. While an individual may contribute up to $2,700 to a candidate in the 2015-2016 election cycle (a change included in the Bipartisan Campaign Reform Act of 2002 (BCRA), increasing the limit from $1,000), only $250 of an individual’s contribution can be applied toward the $5,000 threshold in each state.

    Primary election candidates must agree to an overall spending limit and spending limits in each state. The overall base spending limit for presidential primary campaigns is $10,000,000, plus COLA (over 1974). For the 2016 primary season, the base spending limit is $48,070,300. Certain fundraising expenses (up to 20% of the base expenditure limit) are exempt from that base limit. Therefore, the effective primary expenditure limit in 2016 is $57,684,360. Candidates may also spend up to 15% of the overall spending limit for legal and accounting costs incurred to comply with the FECA and the Presidential Election Campaign Fund Act. These disbursements do not count against spending limits.

    THE MATCHING FUND PROCESS (very generally)

    Candidates may apply for eligibility any time but no money can be paid out until January of the election year. All money raised for a presidential primary election is potentially matchable. Campaigns may submit requests for funds once per month. (Twice-monthly submissions and letter requests used to be the rule, but this was changed because of the potential for a shortfall in available funds.) In the event of a shortfall, all eligible candidates will get a percentage of the total amount to which they are entitled. The percentage will be determined by supply and demand.

    Once the Commission determines that a candidate has met the eligibility criteria, the candidate may submit evidence of contributions from individuals for matching. The Commission’s audit staff reviews these submissions to determine whether the requests meet the standards for matchability. The maximum amount of matching funds a candidate may receive is limited to 50% of the base spending limit. In 2016, presidential primary candidates who accept public funding have a maximum entitlement of $24,035,150 (50% of $48,070,300).

    Donald never pays, he always gets paid. He is a con man.

  213. 213.

    Barb2

    If you happen to break the glass while taking case apart. No worry there are lots of online sources for replacement screens/glass. Also YouTube has how to videos.

    Biggest complaint in repair forums was broken screens/glass.

  216. 216.

    Miss Bianca

    @Baud: You’re on fire with the snark this morning, Would-Be President Baud!

    @Mustang Bobby: I feel your pain. God, I am so stealing PIGBARF, acronym and concept alike, cuz ain’t it the truth!

  217. 217.

    What Have the Romans Ever Done for Us?

    @Immanentize: Just what I read…it doesn’t necessarily mean it’s correct. I think there is some concern that Trump will implode before or at the convention and that will mean the GOP will nominate someone approaching a “generic Republican” who no one will know anything about but who might be able to stay on message and with Hillary’s high unlikeable numbers might be able to at least make the election close. My guess is no matter who they pick class will tell in the end and the guy will say something stupid or unpopular and Hillary will win anyway, but winning close is worse than the looming blowout we’re working with right now.

  218. 218.

    different-church-lady

    @shomi:

    You can never count on the Bernie or bust crowd. It’s the same old crowd with a new name that has always been there that you could never count on.

    They kept telling us over and over and over they were never interested in politics until Bernie, which is why Bernie is such a good thing.

    But then they also tell us it’s impossible for a democrat to win the presidency without their support, despite the evidence of the last two presidential elections, which according to their own account, occurred without their involvement.

  219. 219.

    Miss Bianca

    @Patricia Kayden: Wouldn’t it be something if no one touched it and they had to beg Cameron to come back? Now *that* would be choice – “drink, drink this poison chalice, mofo! You prepared it!”

  220. 220.

    catclub

    @debbie:

    I’m sure it was innocent, but here they go again, giving the Right more ammunition. What is it with Clintons and an inability to weigh consequences?

    Dick Cheney goes hunting with Antonin Scalia while a case is under SC review. Crickets.

    You talk about ammunition. The Clinton rules mean that if he had not talked with her, that would have been worse.

  222. 222.

    Doug R

    @Baud: I’ve seen a few new unlocked Android phones at Costco from $99 to $199. I bought a battery from a battery store, it cost about $30. You have to consider if it’s for an older model, it could have been sitting on a shelf for about two years as well.

  223. 223.

    burnspbesq

    @OzarkHillbilly:

    Enlighten me please. What was wrong with it?

    You don’t see how bad the optics are? Really? Spouse of a person under FBI investigation hobnobs with the Attorney General? Don’t. Even if you’ve been best buds since kindergarten. Just don’t f’in do it.

  226. 226.

    hovercraft

    Warren is getting geared up for the final Harry Potter battle against evil.

    Elizabeth Warren
    ✔ ‎@elizabethforma

    Looking for a Defense Against the Dark Arts prof, @jk_rowling? Where do I apply? Trump, Death Eaters – I got this!
    2:12 PM – 29 Jun 2016

    4,344 4,344 Retweets

    9,114 9,114 likes

  227. 227.

    a hip hop artist from Idaho (fka Bella Q)

    @MomSense: This is going to sound quite weird – I think I meant to ask OhioMom! Are you in Maine, or am I hopelessly confused? Note that the two are not mutually exclusive.

    Either way – we want pupdates!!

  228. 228.

    hovercraft

    @hovercraft:
    I removed the naked link to get out of moderation.

    Elizabeth Warren
    ✔ ‎@elizabethforma

    Looking for a Defense Against the Dark Arts prof, @jk_rowling? Where do I apply? Trump, Death Eaters – I got this!
    2:12 PM – 29 Jun 2016

    4,344 4,344 Retweets

    9,114 9,114 likes

  229. 229.

    different-church-lady

    @catclub: Right. The whole point of a safe-word is that it has to be something that somebody wouldn’t say in the natural course of the role play.

    Or so I’ve heard.

  230. 230.

    hovercraft

    For all the handringers who are worried about democratic complacency fear not the definitive poll is in Drump is leading Clinton by 4 points.

    Thursday, June 30, 2016

    The tables have turned in this week’s White House Watch. After trailing Hillary Clinton by five points for the prior two weeks, Donald Trump has now taken a four-point lead.

    The latest Rasmussen Reports national telephone and online survey of Likely U.S. Voters finds Trump with 43% of the vote, while Clinton earns 39%. Twelve percent (12%) still like another candidate, and five percent (5%) are undecided. (To see survey question wording, click here.)

    Last week at this time, it was Clinton 44%, Trump 39%. This is Trump’s highest level of support in Rasmussen Reports’ matchups with Clinton since last October. His support has been hovering around the 40% mark since April, but it remains to be seen whether he’s just having a good week or this actually represents a real move forward among voters.

    Trump now earns 75% support among his fellow Republicans and picks up 14% of the Democratic vote. Seventy-six percent (76%) of Democrats like Clinton, as do 10% of GOP voters. Both candidates face a sizable number of potential defections because of unhappiness with them in their own parties.

  231. 231.

    Gin & Tonic

    I’m reading that Mike Ditka turned down the offer to speak at the Republican convention.

    Seriously, how are they going to fill the time? I read a piece recently where the reporter asked almost everyone who had a speaking slot at the 2012 convention, and most won’t even be in attendance at the 2016 convention, having other pressing business elsewhere.

  232. 232.

    Shell

    IT IT MOVES AND SHOULDN’T — DUCT TAPE

    Don’t forget the good old classic, Crazy Glue!

    Did Cole ever share any pics of Steves matted fur or new hair style?

  233. 233.

    Matt McIrvin

    @shomi:

    You people and your obsession with polls. They are completely meaningless right now.
    […]
    Also, WTF is wrong with those 20% of hispanics? What more does Drumpf have to do to lose their vote?

    Are polls meaningless or not?

  237. 237.

    Immanentize

    @Gin & Tonic: I vote that Trump runs a Jerry Lewis style telethon for the time allotted to the convention….

    “Look at we’re walking….”

    ETA. I still get queazy thinking both about the parade of children and hooped up Jerry Lewis from my childhood TV. REALLY. it would suit Trump’s schtick perfectly.

  239. 239.

    Calouste

    The main news out of that ABC poll is not that Clinton has her largest lead with non-whites so far, it’s that Trump lost a 22 point lead with men in a single month.

  240. 240.

    J R in WV

    @Immanentize:

    Our donation is monthly, so every month that money will hit Hillary’s campaign checkbook. Is that holding back>? No. That’s making a larger donation affordable. That’s holding back a little to make senatorial donations later, after the convention.

    ETA: News about mind reading isn’t real!!

  241. 241.

    J R in WV

    I’m having trouble connecting to B-J to comment and edit my comment… just FYI.

  243. 243.

    Mike in DC

    I foresee Clinton getting 80 to 85 % of the nonwhite vote, with nonwhite voters making up 30 to 33% of the electorate. That adds up to 24 to 28% of the total popular vote. So, Trump would have to get 44 to 45% of the popular vote out of the white voter demographic, which equates to 44/70 to 45/67, around 63 to 67% of the white vote, just to get to 50% of the popular vote. This seems like a big challenge.

  244. 244.

    Tripod

    Also,

    If I ever see the Big Dog at an airport, polling place or McDonalds, fuckin-a-right I’m going to shake his hand.

  245. 245.

    Uncle Cosmo

    @Matt McIrvin: The (un)original pushmi-pullyu pollster, a wholly-owned subsidiary of the Rethuglican Party. Probably playing games with his turnout model to twist the results into what his corporate masters want fed to the public. Speaking as a former research statistician, the mofo ought to be washed up by now–in the sense of being found in pieces on a Brazilian beach.

  246. 246.

    Grumpy Code Monkey

    @Baud:

    @BillinGlendaleCA: I read a story that donors are reluctant to give to Hillary right now because they are afraid that Trump won’t be the nominee and they don’t want their money to go to waste.

    That makes zero sense; whether or not Trump is the Republican nominee, Hillary is the Democratic nominee (or will be soon enough). We’re not going to change nominees if the Republicans change theirs. Now, if you’re talking about Republican donors who don’t want to see Trump anywhere near the button and are willing to give to Hills to keep that from happening, okay, but Democratic donors need to get their shit together.

    As far as The Big Cheeto itself, there’s not a lot the GOP can do at this point; they could change the rules at the convention and unbind all the delegates, but that would likely lead to blood on the floor. Beyond that, the only option left is a little digitalis in a taco bowl before the convention, but that carries some risk.

  248. 248.

    Kay

    @burnspbesq:

    You don’t see how bad the optics are? Really? Spouse of a person under FBI investigation hobnobs with the Attorney General? Don’t. Even if you’ve been best buds since kindergarten. Just don’t f’in do it.

    True, but Lynch shares some responsibility too. She’s been a prosecutor a long time. She knows how nuts the political scene is. Just decline to engage with Mr. Chatty Face. We all know he can’t stop talking.

  249. 249.

    Kathleen

    @Emma: What I heard on NPR is that they were both in the terminal and chatted. Outrage was not over hold up but certainty that deals were struck regarding email investigation.

  250. 250.

    Emma

    @Kathleen: And of course we good democrats have pissed ourselves over “optics.” Bah. Nothing either Hillary of Bill have ever done or will do ever passes the Clinton Optics Rules. I wish we had the balls to defend ours the way Republicans defend theirs.

  252. 252.

    J R in WV

    @Kay: There is no FBI investigation. It’s over, and nothing happened, and no one was accused of anything more than poor decision making. If stories I have heard about federal email rules are anything like accurate, it wasn’t even poor decision making. If you wanted your emails delivered the same day you wrote them, you needed a non-federal email system.

    If you were in charge of agricultural loan programs, a leisurely email system is one thing. If you are in charge of foreign relations with various wars and conflicts around the world, that isn’t a real option.

    ETA fix typo

  253. 253.

    Matt McIrvin

    @Uncle Cosmo: I am actually also suspicious of those Ballotpedia battleground-state polls; those massively pro-Hillary numbers are just way out of line with most other state polls, the Pennsylvania one particularly. In general any single SHOCK POLL result is worth provisionally discounting until you see confirmation that some movement happened in a lot of other results.

  254. 254.

    Aimai

    @Emma: this 100 per cent. Stop already with the permanent defensive crouch, democrats. The republicans are running a guy who is literally a criminal, fraudster, who threatened a federal judge. And a former president who has not committed ANY crime can’t speak to the attorney general? Come on!

  255. 255.

    Applejinx

    @Emma: Be careful what you wish for: I got your back ;)

    I’m literally not making this up: I bet his ‘casual social conversation’ was indeed designed as a little reminder not to go against the Clintons, and worked, too. It’s just another way of saying ‘we’re keeping an eye on you! We can stop planes and all sorts of stuff, so choose wisely!’

    And I want it that way.

    Why?

    Because if Hillary (and/or Bill) Clinton can’t shut off a pissant little ethics investigation with political clout and ruthless domination of the supposed watchdogs, I don’t want her as President.

    I switched to her without once believing she was some benevolent liberal who always did right: she and Bill are the ultimate power-fixers, otherwise how did they get where they are, in a totally corrupt Washington run for decades by Republican scum? They beat the Repugs at their own game and they’re the only ones who can get legislation through, alter our society in desirable ways, bail us all out. It’s rude to be fussy about how it’s done.

    I don’t care if they’re crooked, I want results.

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