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“If you’re gonna love America, you have to love ALL Americans”
As my old man used to say: … this side idolatry.
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What’s on the agenda as we wrap up the holiday / weekend?
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“If you’re gonna love America, you have to love ALL Americans”
As my old man used to say: … this side idolatry.
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What’s on the agenda as we wrap up the holiday / weekend?
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RobertDSC-Quad Intel Mac
I just think of the American flags left on the moon. That is my fondest thought about being an American.
lollipopguild
You do not have to love every single American in order to love and treasure a country where people from all over the planet have proven that they can live in peace with each other.
Schlemazel Khan
@RobertDSC-Quad Intel Mac:
NASA stated that they have been bleached white by the sun now.
I don’t want to be but am well aware I am a little ray of black shine on a sunny day.
Smedley Darlington Prunebanks (Formerly Mumphrey, et al.)
What movie was the music from? I know the movie, but I can’t put my finger on it.
Trentrunner
Rumors swirling that because Sen Bob Corker is campaigning w/Trump tomorrow in North Carolina–where Obama & Clinton make their first joint appearance–Trump will be announcing Corker as his VP then and there, too.
Would be the first not-completely-politically-idiotic thing Trump has done in about two months.
Elie
YESSSSSSSS — Happy 4 of JUUUU — LY my friends on B-j — and to our country….
May we stay strong and believe in the true dream of liberty and love….
Schlemazel Khan
The flag is a symbol not a blindfold. It can serve as a backdrop for the emotion of patriotism but should never blind a person to the things we still need to work on.
I love my country. I love my kids too but that does not mean I ignore their faults and pretend they are perfect. I want my kids to do better & I know they can. I feel the same way about my country, very proud when they do well, happy to share their success but want them to always try to do better while they enjoy what they do well.
Smedley Darlington Prunebanks (Formerly Mumphrey, et al.)
Why the hell would Corker consent to do that? The guy is a low life, but he’s about as near to a sane Republican as we have left here now. What the hell could he be hoping to get out of this? He’ll spend the next five months or whatever it is trying to control Trump, and then having to answer for him when he can’t. It seems like it would be beneath him to run with Trump. I don’t know; maybe I’m misreading the guy, but he’s been about as critical of Trump as any Republican has been this last year.
RobertDSC-Quad Intel Mac
@Schlemazel Khan:
I know. But they are still there. And I love that very much.
Tissue Thin Pseudonym
I have to admit that I don’t love America. I don’t not love it, either. To be honest, the concept of loving a country doesn’t make any sense to me. I can love people, but only ones that I know. I can’t love an abstract concept like a country. I just can’t wrap my head around the idea.
chris
We’re not done with the weekend. http://thumbsnap.com/VyRTOjZr
Mnemosyne
We’re spending our 4th of July like all right-thinking people should: watching the “Twilight Zone” marathon on SyFy. William Shatner’s finest half hour is on now in “Nightmare at 20,000 Feet.”
lamh36
@ajplus
Justin Trudeau just became the first Canadian prime minister to march in a gay pride parade.
seaboogie
I am minutes from checking in on NASA’s Juno mission to Jupiter, in solidarity with me pa (me in CA, Dad in SW Ontario) who is a big fan of physics and all things space and planetary.
Also 15 days away from qualifying for a senior discount – and it just so happens that my 55th birthday falls on a Tuesday, which is senior discount day. I will celebrate by shopping a bit more heavily than my usual daily foray, and will call my Dad to tell him that his eldest is now officially a senior. Since Dad is only 77, it’s fun to remind him that while he may not be that old, his kids are getting up there in years.
lamh36
lamh36
#NiecyZoe…11 months old! Who can believe it in one more month she’ll be 1 year old
PurpleGirl
Often when I think about the country I hear in my head the ending speech in the movie The American President. I’d insert it here but it is a long speech. But every time I watch the movie that speech just hits a spot. (Yes, I’m in love President Shepard. If only he was real.)
hilts
@Trentrunner:
“Rumors swirling that because Sen Bob Corker is campaigning w/Trump tomorrow in North Carolina”
There should be a special place in Hell reserved for Corker and other Republican assholes in the Senate and House of Reps who understand that Trump is completely unqualified to be President, but who cravenly believe in putting the interests of their fucking political party ahead of the interests of America.
@lollipopguild:
“You do not have to love every single American” – Fuck that goddamn motherfucking Donald Trump and his pathetic fucking hairpiece.
ThresherK (GPad)
@Mnemosyne: I asked the little fortune telling machine in the greasy spoon, “Is that Shatner’s finest hour?” and it answered, “Results inconclusive”.
They’d better get my car fixed soon or I may never leave.
chris
@lamh36: At times like this I’m glad I voted for Justin. Other times I just despair because I’m just another “hard leftist” who got spun by a pretty face and some promises. He reminds me so much of Obama, Hope and (a few minor) Changes, as the neoliberal train keeps a’rollin’.
ThresherK (GPad)
Spousal ThresherK and I happened to be in Hyde Park for Memorial Day, and that gave me a good feeling about my country.
PurpleGirl
@Mnemosyne: Enjoy it Mnem. I will be staying up to watch 1776 on TCM. Also on TCM before 1776, Yankee Doodle Dandy. I know the movie isn’t true to James M. Cohan’s real life but Cagney was so good in it; who can not watch Cagney tap dancing down the White House steps. Dance scene filmed in one take with no rehearsal. Cagney was one hell of a tap dancer.
chris
First comment in moderation because I posted a link? To a pet picture? Did I miss a memo?
Miss Bianca
Looks like the rain is clearing up, so it’s probably fireworks viewing and then some more writing and then an early-night crash. Wrapping up the Shakespeare plays has left me feeling oddly enervated.
The Dangerman
I’m still saying it’ll be Gingrich. Adelson money gotta look good to Trump.
Davis X. Machina
Reading — actually listening to an audiobook of — the American-est book there is: Ulysses Grant’s Memoirs.
amk
@The Dangerman: Why the automatic assumption here that noot comes with the caseeeno $’s?
Anne Laurie
@chris:This iteration of FYWP has decided that all ‘naked’ links are spam. If you can use the link button on top of the leave-a-comment box (highlight a brief description, e.g., ‘weekend’s not over’; click ‘link’ button; enter the URL; press okay; post comment as usual) you won’t have to wait for one of us front-pagers to fish it out of the filter.
PurpleGirl
@PurpleGirl: Menem — I wasn’t quite finished with my comment…
I’ve done the Twilight Zone marathons before and watch a few of them this afternoon. But somehow The comment closed and I couldn’t get back to it in time.
Anne Laurie
@The Dangerman:
Two potential landmines: Newt says something Lord Short Thumbs interprets as disrespectful; or Adelson decides a guy who loves the alt-Reich as much as Trump just ain’t his kinda candidate.
geg6
My poor pups are on the verge of a nervous breakdown, poor things. There’s a special hell reserved for all the assholes who insist on producing their own fireworks extravaganzas. This is three nights in a row. It has made Lovey so upset, she’s thrown up in bed the last two. Hopefully, it won’t happen again tonight. I hate this part of Independence Day.
Plus, I think I’m coming down with some sort of respiratory crud. People are going to be pissed if I call off tomorrow.
Roger Moore
@efgoldman:
I think they’re making a distinction between loving all Americans and loving each and every American. The idea is that loving all Americans means treating all citizens equally, i.e. not thinking your kind of American is superior to all other kinds. That’s different from loving each American, which is the kind of thing only a saint or a delusional person could do.
The Dangerman
@amk:
The media has Newt and Adelson as BFF’s; can’t tell you why.
Amir Khalid
I see that Australia’s biggest embarrassment Pauline Hanson is still on the political scene after 20 years, and has been elected a Senator.
chris
@Anne Laurie: I did miss a memo! Thanks, AL
Mnemosyne
@PurpleGirl:
We ended up not watching “1776” this year. G had homework and he was feeling a little down since it’s the 4th anniversary of his dad’s death this year. But we’re going to hike up into the hills and see a few fireworks displays since you can see a few different cities’ displays from up there.
Mornington Crescent
I see that Noel Neill has died.
NotMax
Little late, but forgot to link to Jean Shepherd’s The Great American Fourth Of July and Other Disasters.
Tomorrow, annual watching of “Fifth of July.”
Tenar Darell
@PurpleGirl: My favorite Cagney apocrypha is that for all the acting only parts he did, he considered himself a hoofer first & always, so it feels perfect to hear it only took one take without rehearsal to get the White House steps scene.
NotMax
@Mnemosyne
He was just fine in Judgment at Nuremberg.
Villago Delenda Est
At least 27% of the population of this country can’t do what Cena asks.
PurpleGirl
I was able to see about 2/3 of the Macy’s fireworks display. My terrace has lines of sight to Manhattan, Brooklyn (almost to Coney Island and the display they do there. This year there was a display in Maspeth (I think) that was smaller but had some of the same fireworks as Macy’s. So I was sitting outside to watch. Didn’t see the lower bursts but the high ones were great. I saw the fireworks the first year on the Hudson at the park with friends. Now I’m hearing random explosions.
NotMax
@Tenar Darell
IIRC, it was an ad lib – no dancing indicated in the script.
PurpleGirl
@lamh36: She is adorable. Wishing her the best in life.
Villago Delenda Est
@efgoldman: He’s got a blind spot. The size of Texas.
Carl W
@Mnemosyne: I’m watching Summer Games Done Quick. Recommended for people who like video games.
rikyrah
@lamh36:
Zoe is so cute ?
rikyrah
@The Dangerman:
That is how I feel. That Adelson checkbook. ??????
lamh36
Finally getting around to watching Marvel’s Jessica Jones on Netflix. It’s def a weird one…David Tennant is both creepy and hilarious and charming and sinister as hell…all at the same time.
Well done David!
I'mNotSureWhoIWantToBeYet
@efgoldman: They met in December and apparently got along swimmingly.
If Trump continues to crash in the polls, Shelly may keep his money.
Cheers,
Scott.
PurpleGirl
@NotMax: Yes, he began walking down the steps and then began dancing. One year it looked like no TV station was showing the movie but the Museum of Modern Art was so I went there. There was another movie showing before YDD, so I let other people into the movie before me. (It was first come, first enter.) The guard let me do it when I told him I wanted to see YDD. Then a lady behind me heard what I was doing and she began staying with me. We got to talking and she said she was Cagney’s niece. She had stay in the City for some reason and couldn’t get to the farm upstate for the annual BBQ and showing of the movie. Uncle Jimmy’s favorite movie.
Finally the time for YDD came and we entered the movie and we parted. So maybe she was Cagney’s niece or maybe not, but it was a nice conversation and she got to see the movie she really wanted to.
redshirt
@lamh36: He’s one of the creepiest/scariest villains I can think of. He’s terrifying.
amk
@srv: idjits are gonna be idjits.
redshirt
@chris:
Jesus. I doubt anyone is good enough for you. Not in this reality.
Adam L Silverman
@Mornington Crescent: She has her own statue:
http://www.noelneillstatue.com/
CaseyL
Listening to the Juno orbital insertion on another tab. Engine burn took place without untoward incident and will burn for 35 minutes, taking Juno into Jovian orbit. You could see the doppler on the screen in Mission Control, showing the sharp upward spike as the burn happened.
It’s difficult to do a telecast about a space mission without actual images from the ship, so there’s a lot of interviewing people, talking about the mission, the reason Jupiter is so hot, etc. I’m really enjoying it.
Aleta
@srv: He will insist on being tried for manslaughter I’m sure.
redshirt
@CaseyL: Go Juno!
I wish this probe was also exploring the Jovian moons like Cassini, but alas. There is Europa mission in planning stages though, which is going to be incredible.
The moons of the solar system are more interesting than most of the planets, and I suspect that’s the case with every solar system.
fuckwit
@Anne Laurie: Is there a pool?
here’s the square I’ll take: Troll will tap someone, like Gingrich, who has a mind of his own. That person will say or do something without Troll explicitly telling him to. And, Troll will fire him. And pick someone who’s going to lapdog him, like maybe Christie.
fuckwit
@redshirt: That’s because Presidents and Prime Ministers don’t make the laws, control the economy, or speak for 100% of the people. My guess is that Canada has got so much neoliberal momentum, like the US, that no one person will or can be expected to change it. It’ll take generations of hard work. Don’t give up.
Vhh
@Smedley Darlington Prunebanks (Formerly Mumphrey, et al.): Corker, like Trump, is a real estate developer. They both know how to milk a project. Corker ran racist ads in his first Senate campaign, against Harold Ford, a black guy (“not our kind of person). And lastly, Corker is reputed to be “small fingered” in the same way as Trump.
Mike J
@CaseyL: 8000kg of fuel or a 35 minute burn! That’s a lotta kerosene to haul a loooong way.
Mary G
Exciting! What amazings things we doing in space.
max
Orbital injection completed! Woo.
max
[‘Juno did not go smack. And that doesn’t suck.’]
Matt McIrvin
@Mike J: That particular engine uses hypergolic propellants, hydrazine and nitrogen tetroxide–they ignite on contact. The engine was actually made by a British company, Moog-ISP.
dogwood
@redshirt:
Go easy on him. He’s in “despair.”
max
“Welcome to jupiter”
max
[‘And now the little probe begins to have its brain slowly fried.’]
seaboogie
@CaseyL: Me too. This was really interesting. I initially thought it would be immediate gratification with cool pics, but it was just about getting into Jupiter’s orbit with a solar powered vehicle. Pretty amazing stuff, and the interviews put the significance of this mission into perspective. Really interested in seeing what data is gathered over the course of the mission.
workworkwork
@redshirt: Mind control is the scariest bad-guy thing as far as I’m concerned.
I almost didn’t watch “Jessica Jones” because of that (glad I did, though). I knew David Tennant would be an amazing bad guy ever since I saw him in “Secret Smile”.
CaseyL
@Mike J: Here’s the description of her fuel:
Honus
@Mornington Crescent: Lois Lane. She spoke at UVA 40 years ago, and came to the bar where my band was playing afterward. While she was dancing to Sweet Jane we changed the chorus to “Lois Lane” She loved it.
max
@efgoldman: Yeah, since Shelley’s purpose in life is to get Netenyahu elected president of the US and turn the Republiklowns into Likudniks, I’ve got to think he’s got extra ultra-sensitive antennae for any whisper of Antisemitism. Or maybe he’s got such a huge blind spot it doesn’t matter.
1) Trump yells a lot. Israelis’ Favorite Thing About Donald Trump? His Style (to Put It Bluntly)
2) He’ll (likely) want to fund Israel the big bucks.
3) He’s want to hit Muslims everywhere and anywhere. Also he doesn’t care about the Palestinians.
4) Trump undoubtably loves BiBi. And the Russians like Trump.
What, from Adelson’s POV, is not to like?
max
[‘What’s a little antisemitism between buds?’]
Villago Delenda Est
@srv: Yes. The dipshit killed him. WITH A GUN.
Fuck him. He should languish in a cell for his irresponsibility.
redshirt
@workworkwork: Especially a psychopath with mind control powers. Some of the things he did on the show were shockingly horrific, not only because of what we saw, but what we could imagine. His offhand joke about telling a guy to “go fuck himself” is terrifying.
Lamh36
@redshirt: it was “go screw yourself” and yeah creepy as hell. the idea that he was actually picking his words carefully and STILL ends up doing horrific shit!!!!
Omnes Omnibus
@Schlemazel Khan: @RobertDSC-Quad Intel Mac: The fading doesn’t matter. They are still there.
Omnes Omnibus
@efgoldman: Stop being picky. It was a well done thingy about inclusiveness.
Tissue Thin Pseudonym
@workworkwork: Tennant was great, but it was also the writing. As the series progresses, and Kilgrave’s character is slowly revealed, it all fits. There is a moment, when he describes what it was like having his power since he was a child, where you actually have sympathy for him, and then it dissipates as he cannot keep from being the evil monster he has become.
I like it when superhero writers take the time to really explore what various powers do to the personality of those who have them. There was an issue of X-Factor, some 25 years ago during Peter David’s run, when someone asks Quicksilver why he’s such an asshole. His response was, “You know those times when you’re stuck in line at the ATM, behind the person who can’t figure out which button to push, and takes forever? That’s my entire life.”
PurpleGirl
@Matt McIrvin: I was watching a Mythbusters that was made in line for the ending of the series. It was about a “new” fuel for a rocket. new fuel — gummy bears (in three forms) and another petrochemical. quite a funny episode.
Omnes Omnibus
@efgoldman: That is a vaguely uncomfortable suggestion. Come on, the thing was well meant and decent overall.
pseudonymous in nc
@Trentrunner:
NC has two GOP senators, one of whom is newly-ish elected and has no, one of whom is up for election in November. Are they not prepared to stump with Tr*mp in their home state? To be fair, the far-west bits of NC are very much Vols country, but that doesn’t mean they’re Corkertown.
MoeLarryAndJesus
@Trentrunner: Doesn’t “Trump-Corker” sound like something was shoved up Trump’s ass?
Uncle Cosmo
@max: Direct from the website:
Geezypeezy, one lousy sentence & we get an out-of-place comma & a misused word (“principal investigator”). Idiocracy comes to planetary exploration. Either the budget left no room for hiring flacks who were, like, actually competent in English, or this came from the keyboard of some GOTea Congresscritter’s second-cousin’s son…
Prescott Cactus
I am a bit out of the “scene” and had no idea who this John Cena was. Zero clue. Interesting guy. That video is 3.5 minutes of awesome and only a Democrat embrace a this type of inclusion. If you have told me his background I would have labeled him a Republican.
Ironic this is co-sponsored by “Love Has No Labels”. . . Bad me !