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You are here: Home / Politics / Trumpery / Hail to the Hairpiece / Thursday Afternoon Open Thread: Same Stuff / Different Day

Thursday Afternoon Open Thread: Same Stuff / Different Day

by Anne Laurie|  July 7, 20162:17 pm| 153 Comments

This post is in: Hail to the Hairpiece, Open Threads, Republicans in Disarray!, Schadenfreude

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“'This election remains a dumpster fire. Nothing has changed,' the spokesman said."https://t.co/mxIBJexyvs

— Molly Ball (@mollyesque) July 7, 2016

“I gotta do me,” Donald Trump said recently. The Washington Post, on today’s performance:

Donald Trump’s private meeting Thursday with Senate Republicans — designed to foster greater party unity ahead of the national convention in Cleveland — grew combative as the presumptive presidential nominee admonished three senators who have been critical of his candidacy and predicted they would lose their reelection bids, according to two Republican officials with direct knowledge of the exchanges.

Trump’s most tense exchange was with Sen. Jeff Flake (R-Ariz.), who has been vocal in his concerns about the business mogul’s candidacy, especially his rhetoric and policies on immigration that the senator argues alienate many Latino voters and others in Arizona…

Trump said at the meeting that he has yet to attack Flake hard but threatened to begin doing so. Flake stood up to Trump by urging him to stop attacking Mexicans. Trump predicted that Flake would lose his reelection, at which point Flake informed Trump that he was not on the ballot this year, the sources said…

Trump also called out Sen. Mark Kirk (R-Ill.) — who withdrew his endorsement of Trump last month, citing the business mogul’s racially based attacks on a federal judge — and said he did not approve of the senator’s action, the officials said.

Characterizing Kirk as a loser, Trump vowed that he would carry Illinois in the general election even though the state traditionally has been solidly Democratic in presidential contests. Kirk did not attend the meeting with Trump…

Trump also singled out Sen. Ben Sasse (R-Neb.), who has refused to support Trump and has emerged as perhaps the most vocal advocate for a third-party candidate. Sasse declined to speak with reporters as he left the meeting…

Before his meeting with Senate Republicans, Trump visited with the House GOP conference in what leaders billed as a chance for rank-and-file members to get to know the party’s presumptive presidential nominee.

Trump was greeted by applause from more than 200 House GOP members at the standing-room-only gathering, according to GOP aides, and was introduced at the event by financial commentator and TV personality Larry Kudlow. Trump opened the discussion with a speech on the importance of appointing conservative justices to the Supreme Court, members said.

In his discussion with senators, Trump claimed that he had inside intelligence about Hillary Clinton’s vetting process for Supreme Court vacancies and that he knew the names of two people the presumptive Democratic nominee is considering nominating, two Republican officials said. But Trump would not reveal those names…

Despite House leaders’ positive statement about the gathering, several GOP lawmakers leaving the morning meeting said they are still unconvinced that Trump can be a good standard-bearer for the party.

Rep. Mark Sanford (R-S.C.) left the meeting worried about Trump’s grasp on the basics of the Constitution. At a lunch with reporters afterward, he recalled that the candidate did not seem to know what he was promising to defend.

“I wasn’t particularly impressed,” said Sanford. “It was the normal stream of consciousness that’s long on hyperbole and short on facts. At one point, somebody asked about Article I powers: What will you do to protect them? I think his response was, ‘I want to protect Article I, Article II, Article XII,’ going down the list. There is no Article XII.”…

The Repub base, as represented by the Teahadis and other nutballs in the House, still loves them some Donald. The slightly more sophisticated Senators are looking at polls, thinking about their own races, and chugging Mylanta.

ETA:

.@SenSasse won't attend #RNC2016 "& will instead take his kids to watch some dumpster fires across the state." https://t.co/oVcfINYCS0

— Meg Kinnard (@MegKinnardAP) July 7, 2016

No, really, Sen. Sasse said that — before the Trump meeting.

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  1. 1.

    rikyrah

    July 7, 2016 at 2:20 pm

    this is their clown. they have to live with him.

  2. 2.

    chopper

    July 7, 2016 at 2:20 pm

    “I gotta do me,” Donald Trump said recently.

    i thought he wanted to do his daughter. i iz confuzzled.

  3. 3.

    chopper

    July 7, 2016 at 2:22 pm

    “It was the normal stream of consciousness that’s long on hyperbole and short on facts. At one point, somebody asked about Article I powers: What will you do to protect them? I think his response was, ‘I want to protect Article I, Article II, Article XII,’ going down the list. There is no Article XII.”…

    fuck sanford, but that’s still funny.

  4. 4.

    dmsilev

    July 7, 2016 at 2:22 pm

    My favorite part of that article came from down near the bottom:

    If you look at the trajectory of his unforced errors, he’s getting better,” said Rep. Bill Flores (R-Tex.). “I mean, he’s not where we want him to be, but he’s getting better.”

    That’s the sort of language adults use to describe a Little League pitcher who today only gave up five home runs in three innings.

  5. 5.

    Ken

    July 7, 2016 at 2:22 pm

    Think we can get a kneel before Trump meme going? He seems to have about the same opinion of himself as Zod, though without the powers to back it up.

  6. 6.

    Trollhattan

    July 7, 2016 at 2:23 pm

    @chopper:
    Pretty sure Article XII is in Two Corinthians.

  7. 7.

    dmsilev

    July 7, 2016 at 2:24 pm

    I wonder whether there were some last-minute drop outs from the RNC Convention speaker list. Trump promised it for today, but so far nothing.

  8. 8.

    Elizabelle

    July 7, 2016 at 2:26 pm

    I wouldn’t mind if they were guzzling antifreeze or bleach.

    They brought Trump on themselves. Some of them probably admit that to themselves, if not to others.

  9. 9.

    Ken

    July 7, 2016 at 2:26 pm

    @dmsilev: I’m still thinking it will be Monday, Trump Vacation Properties; Tuesday, Trump Steaks; Wednesday, Trump Hotels; and Thursday, the man himself.

  10. 10.

    dmsilev

    July 7, 2016 at 2:26 pm

    @chopper: One of the other stories on this meeting had someone trying to spin it as if Trump got Articles and Amendments confused. I was not aware of any attacks on the 12th’s reforms of the Electoral College voting procedures, but perhaps Trump knows something we don’t.

  11. 11.

    karen marie

    July 7, 2016 at 2:27 pm

    I just cannot even …

    Between extrajudicial murders by police, bullshit hearings about emails, and “Trump being Trump,” I will take refuge in my work – transcribing criminal hearings where questionable police activities are given the stamp of approval. Oh, wait …

  12. 12.

    dmsilev

    July 7, 2016 at 2:28 pm

    @Ken: It’s kind of too bad that Trump himself shot down the idea of Trump himself speaking each night in prime time. That would have been an extended train wreck for the ages.

  13. 13.

    Roger Moore

    July 7, 2016 at 2:28 pm

    @Ken:
    Nope. Monday it will be Donald Sr. and Donald Jr. Tuesday it will be Donald Sr. and Eric. Wednesday it will be Donald Sr. and Barron. Thursday it will be Donald Sr., VP nominee Ivanka, and Donald Sr. There might be a few more speeches by Donald Sr. thrown in there, too.

  14. 14.

    dedc79

    July 7, 2016 at 2:28 pm

    @dmsilev: “See, before, his unforced errors were increasing exponentially, but now he’s consistently averaging only 5 new unforced errors each day. If these trends continue…”

  15. 15.

    MattF

    July 7, 2016 at 2:30 pm

    @dmsilev: To emphasize, it’s not actually true. He’s not pivoting, he’s getting worse.

  16. 16.

    muddy

    July 7, 2016 at 2:31 pm

    @chopper: It’s the closest he can get to himself.

  17. 17.

    redshirt

    July 7, 2016 at 2:32 pm

    If this wasn’t all so scary and deadly serious, it would be hilarious. Trump is a con-clown and his entire campaign is a joke. They literally may not have enough content to fill half their convention.

    And I hope the lack of fundraising burns every Teahadi and wingnut out there.

  18. 18.

    Percysowner

    July 7, 2016 at 2:35 pm

    Well apparently in response to the question “If you win the Presidency, will you serve?”, which .should be answered by a definitive yes, Trump said “I’ll let you know how I feel about it after it happens.”. I guess we could call this how Newt/Christie/Ivanka becomes President? I mean WTF?

  19. 19.

    Origuy

    July 7, 2016 at 2:36 pm

    When Trump speaks at the convention, a lot of people who’ve never actually watched one of his speeches will be tuned in. Those people will be the sort who joined the Republican Party in utero. They are going to realize for the first time what a disaster he is. The next day they’ll ask their family and neighbors how Trump can possibly be President.

  20. 20.

    Mnemosyne

    July 7, 2016 at 2:39 pm

    @Origuy:

    Usually candidates get a bump in their polls after the convention. I suspect Trump is going to see a drop instead.

    I’m also feeling crazily optimistic that a lot of Republicans are still hoping for a last-second reprieve. Once the convention is over and reality sinks in, I think a lot of Republican voters are going to drop away. They may not vote for Hillary, but staying home or voting for Johnson is almost as good for us.

  21. 21.

    hueyplong

    July 7, 2016 at 2:41 pm

    Two things I am looking forward to seeing at the convention:

    (1) the video they will show about trump. The things they pick to highlight, the music, all of it.

    (2) the return of the young girls dancing and singing about trump kicking ass. Classy.

  22. 22.

    geg6

    July 7, 2016 at 2:42 pm

    BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!

    I am by no means a fan of Ben Sasse, but that’s fucking hilarious.

  23. 23.

    scav

    July 7, 2016 at 2:43 pm

    House members leaving the meeting said Trump did not address the controversy in his remarks and was not asked about it by members.

    Monkey no Look, Monkey No Seeeeeeee.

    or, ♩ ♪ ♫ ♬ No Asking, No Cry. ♩ ♪ ♫ ♬

    ’cause I remember when a we used to sit
    In a government yard in Trenchtown,
    Oba – obaserving the ‘ypocrites – yeah!

  24. 24.

    ThresherK

    July 7, 2016 at 2:43 pm

    @chopper: I think Sam Goldwyn protested, when a conductor referred to the second violin in the studion orchestra, “I don’t want any of those losers. Can’t we hire only first violins?”

  25. 25.

    JPL

    July 7, 2016 at 2:44 pm

    Last night was a set-up. Trump is giving a speech tomorrow in FL, and he wants everyone to cover it, which they will do now. He’s a sane policy oriented guy.

    lol

  26. 26.

    Martha from Augusta

    July 7, 2016 at 2:45 pm

    @Trollhattan: I’d like to think that he pronounced it “Article Ecks-eye-eye” too, also.

  27. 27.

    Betty Cracker

    July 7, 2016 at 2:45 pm

    Josh Marshall had an interesting take on Trump’s Capitol Hill meeting. He says the big takeaway was Trump’s non-answer on Hispanic outreach. An excerpt:

    Trump was asked – not surprisingly and not unreasonably – what about your unpopularity with Hispanics voters and what about down-ballot races? Trump’s response: No, Hispanics love me!

    This is obviously ridiculous on its face. The GOP is generally unpopular with Hispanics and Trump is personally unpopular with Hispanic Americans at a level that is historic and unprecedented. We know this from a limitless trove of public opinion data. As a factual matter, it’s no more ridiculous than the 12th Article of the Constitution Trump pledged to protect or numerous other examples of Trump nonsense. But it has a particular import here…

    If I were a Republican member of Congress and heard what Trump said, I’d be angry. And I strongly suspect many of them were. If I’m a GOP member of Congress I hear that and think, “Damn, you’ve got zero plan to ensure I don’t lose my job. I can’t even tell if you care. But you definitely haven’t even thought about it.”

    It’s every wingnut for himself.

  28. 28.

    BR

    July 7, 2016 at 2:46 pm

    @Origuy:

    Doubtful…it’ll be one of his few scripted speeches.

  29. 29.

    JPL

    July 7, 2016 at 2:46 pm

    @Percysowner: If he hasn’t been sworn in yet, is it a given that the VP can step up.

  30. 30.

    scav

    July 7, 2016 at 2:47 pm

    @Martha from Augusta: Oh help, I instantly translated that into Ecks-BobDole-BobDole. I think I may have been paying attention for far too long.

  31. 31.

    Fester Addams

    July 7, 2016 at 2:47 pm

    Reading that gave me Schadenfreudebumpen.

  32. 32.

    Miss Bianca

    July 7, 2016 at 2:50 pm

    HOUSE Republicans are worried that Trump is going to give them a bad name? Oh, my – after watching some of the shit/clown show of the “Emailgate” hearings, I am inclined to find that thought humorous!

  33. 33.

    PaulWartenberg2016

    July 7, 2016 at 2:50 pm

    @JPL:

    I hope he tries giving it from his yacht off the coast of Stuart, which is currently slimed by Rick “No Ethics” Scott’s toxic waters.

  34. 34.

    Mnemosyne

    July 7, 2016 at 2:51 pm

    @Betty Cracker:

    Yep. And I really think that’s the kind of thing that could turn this into a wave election if we work at it. We’ll never know unless we try.

  35. 35.

    PaulWartenberg2016

    July 7, 2016 at 2:51 pm

    The Comey witch-hunt is starting to make me sympathize with the SOB.

    I think Bill Kristol is starting up a “Draft Comey” effort since Comey is still a registered Republican.

  36. 36.

    japa21

    July 7, 2016 at 2:51 pm

    I am sure that the people providing him with inside intelligence on Hillary’s SC choices are the same people he sent to Hawaii to check out Obama’s birth certificate.

  37. 37.

    Punchy

    July 7, 2016 at 2:52 pm

    It was the normal stream of consciousness that’s long on hyperbole and short on facts.

    Shorter Sanford: He’s a normal, everyday Republican. Also, any trails in this town I can hike?

  38. 38.

    scav

    July 7, 2016 at 2:52 pm

    Mmm. Interesting. Currently, the WaPo posted linked above has the title “Trump, seeking GOP unity, has tense meeting with Senate Republicans” on the page itself and on the front page? “Trump lashes out at GOP senators in meeting aimed at seeking unity”

  39. 39.

    Martha from Augusta

    July 7, 2016 at 2:53 pm

    @scav: I instantly translated your instant translation as “Ecks-ED-ED”. Shows you where my mind is at.

  40. 40.

    Villago Delenda Est

    July 7, 2016 at 2:53 pm

    The Drumpf pivot continues!

  41. 41.

    JPL

    July 7, 2016 at 2:54 pm

    @PaulWartenberg2016: That would be awesome. After watching his reaction to the mosquito last night, the green slime performance would be ratings gold.

  42. 42.

    scav

    July 7, 2016 at 2:54 pm

    @Martha from Augusta: We better never get in the same room at the same time.

  43. 43.

    dmsilev

    July 7, 2016 at 2:54 pm

    @Mnemosyne: I’m wondering whether there will be a serious dump-Trump attempt at the Convention. Not from the NeverTrump clowns, but something organized by people who have kept quiet until the time is right. Probably won’t happen, and I imagine that if it did, it would backfire, but there’s a part of me that refuses to rule out the possibility.

  44. 44.

    Percysowner

    July 7, 2016 at 2:55 pm

    @JPL: I have no idea. I think we can honestly say that we have never had to ask “what if someone wins the Presidency and then says, “You know,never mind”

  45. 45.

    SFAW

    July 7, 2016 at 2:55 pm

    @Betty Cracker:

    It’s every wingnut for himself.

    “And FSM Against All”

  46. 46.

    crosspalms

    July 7, 2016 at 2:56 pm

    @Trollhattan: Two Corinthians walk into a bar. Bartender says, “Say, is that an epistle in your pocket or are you just glad to see me?”

  47. 47.

    ? Martin

    July 7, 2016 at 2:57 pm

    How anyone is considering voting for him is beyond me:

    Presented in a recent interview with a scenario, floating around the political ether, in which the presumptive Republican nominee proves all the naysayers wrong, beats Hillary Clinton and wins the presidency, only to forgo the office as the ultimate walk-off winner, Mr. Trump flashed a mischievous smile.
    Trump cryptically responded, “I’ll let you know how I feel about it after it happens.”

    So, people are voting for a guy who may not even take the office – and who admits he may not even take the office. So at what point can this be called an illegal campaign contribution – run for office and then just turn it over to your VP candidate.

  48. 48.

    SFAW

    July 7, 2016 at 2:58 pm

    @crosspalms:

    Outstanding!

    ETA: Of course, if Ricardo Montalban were telling it, it would be rich Corinthians walking into a leather bar.

  49. 49.

    Miss Bianca

    July 7, 2016 at 2:59 pm

    @PaulWartenberg2016: Not me. That asshole can sit on a fire hydrant and spin a while as far as I’m concerned. By editorializing rather than just giving a report, he set himself up for this. I’d just like to see him grilled good and hard by a bunch of people who actually do know the difference between shit and Shinola.

  50. 50.

    different-church-lady

    July 7, 2016 at 2:59 pm

    @Betty Cracker: Little by little it dawns on the GOP that their base has left them with a practitioner of pure bullshit as their de facto leader.

  51. 51.

    Mike J

    July 7, 2016 at 3:00 pm

    @? Martin: What better way to convince people that a vote for Trump is really just a protest vote against elites and won’t have any real world negative outcome? Convince people they can safely vote for him because he’ll never take office.

  52. 52.

    Mnemosyne

    July 7, 2016 at 3:00 pm

    @dmsilev:

    You know what I keep saying: Alan Keyes is going to walk out on that stage as the nominee. It’s inevitable.

  53. 53.

    dmsilev

    July 7, 2016 at 3:01 pm

    @Mnemosyne: History repeats itself, first as farce, and then as even more absurd farce.

  54. 54.

    Emma

    July 7, 2016 at 3:01 pm

    @Miss Bianca: Cosigned. He tried to give them talking points against Hillary and instead he gave them a stick to beat him with. Too freaking bad.

  55. 55.

    Mnemosyne

    July 7, 2016 at 3:02 pm

    @Mike J:

    I think the Brexit mess is going to make that tack harder to take, fortunately.

  56. 56.

    Amir Khalid

    July 7, 2016 at 3:03 pm

    @Percysowner:
    It fills the heart with Schadenfreude to hear of such things, and to realise that whenever a Republican in elected office contemplates the idea of President Trump, their reaction is, “Oh my God, we’re all fucked.”

  57. 57.

    Carl W

    July 7, 2016 at 3:03 pm

    Sasse’s excuse for skipping the convention is hilarious, but Jeff Flake’s is almost as good: “I’ve got to mow my lawn.”

  58. 58.

    Mnemosyne

    July 7, 2016 at 3:03 pm

    @Miss Bianca:
    @Emma:

    Abso-fucking-lutely. Rooting for injuries.

  59. 59.

    dmsilev

    July 7, 2016 at 3:03 pm

    And in other news, there are signs that Bernie Sanders is approaching the end of his Dance of the 789 Veils and will endorse Hillary early next week. File it under ‘will believe it when I see it’, but still.

  60. 60.

    Ella in New Mexico

    July 7, 2016 at 3:04 pm

    @PaulWartenberg2016:

    Comey is still a registered Republican.

    He said he is not currently registered in any party during the hearing. Shucksterz.

  61. 61.

    Droopy

    July 7, 2016 at 3:04 pm

    @Miss Bianca: It’s like the old saw: 99% of lawyers give the other 1% a bad name

  62. 62.

    Emma

    July 7, 2016 at 3:06 pm

    @Amir Khalid: Some of the photos of people coming out of today’s meeting with Trump warmed the cockles of my evil heart. To a man, all had the deer-in-the-headlights look.

  63. 63.

    smith

    July 7, 2016 at 3:07 pm

    I have zero sympathy for people like Mark Kirk who are now seeing their political lives flash before their very eyes. This is a guy who was known as a moderate R in Congress until he had a shot at the Senate in 2010, the Tea Party year. He jumped right on that bandwagon without a second glance. The Tea Party was a cynical astroturf operation designed to rile the rubes for the benefit of elites. To see them now having to live with the logical consequences of that effort makes me almost think that there might be justice in the world.

    Also, I see Lil Marco has decided he has other priorities during the convention, maybe making the dumpster fire tour with Sasse.

  64. 64.

    NotMax

    July 7, 2016 at 3:08 pm

    Inside the file cabinet at Trump HQ:

    1 folder labeled “Strategery”
    332 folders labeled “Enemy Lists”

  65. 65.

    dmsilev

    July 7, 2016 at 3:09 pm

    @Emma:

    To a man, all had the deer-in-the-headlights look.

    That’s because they all had to sit through a high-pressure sales pitch for Trump’s latest time-share project. But, hey, free tote bag!

  66. 66.

    redshirt

    July 7, 2016 at 3:09 pm

    @dmsilev: At this point, who cares and what’s it matter? Sanders has already proven himself to be an unreliable ally. Fuck Bernie.

  67. 67.

    Mai.naem.mobile

    July 7, 2016 at 3:10 pm

    Trump is a moron. He should have known Flake isn’t running for reelection since McCain is. Flake is no moron. He won with by a small margin last election. He can’t afford to piss off Hispanics in a Hispanic heavy area.

  68. 68.

    Helen

    July 7, 2016 at 3:11 pm

    @BR: Yeah. And he won’t stick to it. Three paragraphs in he’ll revert to his regular stream of bullshit.

  69. 69.

    Emma

    July 7, 2016 at 3:11 pm

    @dmsilev: *snicker* ya know… that has a certain Trumpish believability…

  70. 70.

    Emma

    July 7, 2016 at 3:12 pm

    @srv: Somebody’s going to be in a judge’s gun sights for frivolity. Move right along.

  71. 71.

    Percysowner

    July 7, 2016 at 3:12 pm

    @JPL:

    If he hasn’t been sworn in yet, is it a given that the VP can step up.

    Wonkette gave us the answer on the succession if Trump quits before being sworn in.

    Alexander Keyssar, a historian at Harvard who is working on a book about the Electoral College, said the process of succession would depend on “the precise moment at which he said, ‘Nah, never mind.’ ”

    The party representatives who make up the Electoral College would suddenly have real power rather than a rubber stamp. If Mr. Trump bowed out after winning on Nov. 8 but before the electors met in each state to cast their ballots on Dec. 19, then the electors could have the opportunity to vote for another candidate, Professor Keyssar said.

    A majority of the 538 electors would be Republicans, but they might not agree on the best alternative candidate. If no one won a majority of the electors, the contest between the top three vote-getters — one of whom would presumably be Mrs. Clinton — would go to the House of Representatives, where each state would be given one vote, while the Senate would select the vice president. House Republicans hold 33 states to the Democrats’ 14, with three evenly split. It is unclear whether the vote would take place before or after newly elected representatives were seated.

    So either the Electoral College picks someone, or the House of Representatives does. God only knows who we would get, probably Kasich or whoever the Koch brothers are fond of. I’m betting Ted Cruz would NOT get the nod.

  72. 72.

    Archon

    July 7, 2016 at 3:12 pm

    It isn’t like Trump was hiding his buffoonery until now. The real fault in all this lies with crazy Republican voters, not Donald.

  73. 73.

    Ferd of the Nort

    July 7, 2016 at 3:12 pm

    Suppose He gets elected. Now stay with me here…. SUPPOSE

    The obvious challenges he has getting people to speak at the convention, or even take in a meeting…

    But He gets elected!

    You are a serious conservative political worker. Would you volunteer to be in that Cabinet? Would you be willing to get in that demolition derby of flaming dumpsters?

    Potential ad:

    Clinton: I have X number of people committed to serve in my cabinet. Who has He got?

  74. 74.

    germy

    July 7, 2016 at 3:13 pm

    @Trollhattan:

    Pretty sure Article XII is in Two Corinthians.

    Two Corinthians walk into a bar. “Why the long faces?” bartender asks. “Are you kidding?” they reply. “Have you seen our candidate?”

  75. 75.

    Mai.naem.mobile

    July 7, 2016 at 3:13 pm

    Mark Sanford calling Trump’s performances stream of consciousness should,well,be taken seriously considering his famous stream of consciousness speech a few years back.

  76. 76.

    Poopyman

    July 7, 2016 at 3:13 pm

    @chopper:

    i thought he wanted to do his daughter. i iz confuzzled.

    All of them, Katie. Including Katie, in fact.

  77. 77.

    germy

    July 7, 2016 at 3:15 pm

    Maybe the GOP convention should be like open mic night at the comedy club. Just open the stage to whoever wants to wander up there and riff.

  78. 78.

    Chyron HR

    July 7, 2016 at 3:15 pm

    @Martha from Augusta:

    I’d like to think that he pronounced it “Article Ecks-eye-eye” too, also.

    Oh, Trump’s not going to fall for that trick question again. He called it “Twelfth Articles“.

  79. 79.

    NotMax

    July 7, 2016 at 3:17 pm

    @Poopyman

    K-K-K-Katy, beautiful Katy,
    You’re the only g-g-g-girl that I adore;
    When the m-m-m-moon shines,
    Over the cowshed,
    I’ll be waiting at the k-k-k-kitchen door

  80. 80.

    JPL

    July 7, 2016 at 3:17 pm

    @Percysowner: Thanks, although the though of that occurring, makes me shudder.

  81. 81.

    Botsplainer, Cryptofascist Tool of the Oppressor Class

    July 7, 2016 at 3:17 pm

    @scav:

    Trump’s most tense exchange was with Sen. Jeff Flake (R-Ariz.), who has been vocal in his concerns about the business mogul’s candidacy, especially his rhetoric and policies on immigration that the senator argues alienate many Latino voters and others in Arizona.

    When Flake stood up and introduced himself, Trump told him, “You’ve been very critical of me.”

    “Yes, I’m the other senator from Arizona — the one who didn’t get captured — and I want to talk to you about statements like that,” Flake responded, according to two Republican officials.

    Flake was referencing Trump’s comments last summer about the military service of Sen. John McCain (R-Ariz.), who was a prisoner of war during the Vietnam conflict. Trump questioned whether McCain was a war hero because he was captured.

    Flake told Trump that he wants to be able to support him — “I’m not part of the Never Trump movement,” the senator said — but that he remains uncomfortable backing his candidacy, the officials said.

    Trump said at the meeting that he has yet to attack Flake hard but threatened to begin doing so. Flake stood up to Trump by urging him to stop attacking Mexicans. Trump predicted that Flake would lose his reelection, at which point Flake informed Trump that he was not on the ballot this year, the sources said.

    Asked in a Senate hallway later about his exchange with Trump, Flake declined to elaborate.

  82. 82.

    NonyNony

    July 7, 2016 at 3:20 pm

    @srv: Hilariously this is the guy who tried to sue Apple for failing to stop him from downloading porn. He’s a Talibangical trying to force the courts to enact a Christian Sharia law onto the rest of us.

    Less hilariously his license to practice law has been suspended for “mental health issues” and has been arrested multiple times for stalking people.

  83. 83.

    NotMax

    July 7, 2016 at 3:21 pm

    @Martha from Augusta

    Remembering back to a doddering Strom Thurmond pronouncing Kim Jong Il as “Kim Jong Two.”

  84. 84.

    hovercraft

    July 7, 2016 at 3:21 pm

    @Betty Cracker:
    He also made a comment about more and more women supporting him. We need someone to make a Trump ‘I got this’ poster to send out to nervous republicans. The blacks, women, and hispanics all love him, don’t worry about the public polls showing him trailing, he will win them all bigly, just as he won them in Nevada. They are just too ashamed to tell pollsters that they support him, haven’t you seen the huge numbers of one hispanic lady he brought up on stage and his ‘African American’ supporter at his rallies.
    Edit for clarity

  85. 85.

    Trollhattan

    July 7, 2016 at 3:25 pm

    @crosspalms:
    Two Corinthians and Ricardo Montalban walk into a leather bar… Far as I got.
    ETA, crap, beaten to the punch waaaaay upthread.

  86. 86.

    hovercraft

    July 7, 2016 at 3:26 pm

    @Miss Bianca:
    That’s the problem with these high profile hearings, we all get to see just how f**cking insane they are. Normally they are buried on c-span where only the shut-ins watch and nod their heads in agreement. Those 5 additional committee hearings will be something to behold.

  87. 87.

    TriassicSands

    July 7, 2016 at 3:27 pm

    Question for Donald Trump: How long is a senator’s term in the US Senate?

    Follow up: Does that mean that a senator runs every year, every two years, every four years, every six years, or every millennium?

    Trump knows less about government — and specifically the US government — than typical high school juniors. (And they know very little.)

  88. 88.

    Roger Moore

    July 7, 2016 at 3:28 pm

    @hovercraft:

    That’s the problem with these high profile hearings, we all get to see just how f**cking insane they are.

    Only people crazy enough to watch them. The rest of us depend on others’ reports, which may not capture the full effect.

  89. 89.

    schrodinger's cat

    July 7, 2016 at 3:32 pm

    Anti-Trump antidote: A Sufi Prayer from My name is Khan
    Allah Hi Rehem : (Allah is Kindness)
    Set to music by the trio of Shankar-Ehsan-Loy ( who are Hindu, Muslim and Catholic respectively) written by a Tamil Brahmin (Niranjan Iyengar) and sung by Ustad Rashid Khan.

    Shankar Mahadevan’s version.

  90. 90.

    Anonymous At Work

    July 7, 2016 at 3:33 pm

    @chopper: It’s another way of saying that’s screwing himself over, daily.

  91. 91.

    Miss Bianca

    July 7, 2016 at 3:36 pm

    @Anonymous At Work: that’s *almost* where I was at with that one…

    @schrodinger’s cat: I love these little Indian music breaks you give us!

  92. 92.

    The Thin Black Duke

    July 7, 2016 at 3:38 pm

    I’ve never seen the movie Idiocracy, but considering the lunacy that’s happening right now, I don’t need to, do I?

  93. 93.

    Calouste

    July 7, 2016 at 3:40 pm

    @NotMax: Even more confusing, Kim Jong Two was succeeded by Kim Jong One.

  94. 94.

    inventor

    July 7, 2016 at 3:42 pm

    @NonyNony:

    Hilariously this is the guy who tried to sue Apple for failing to stop him from downloading porn. He’s a Talibangical trying to force the courts to enact a Christian Sharia law onto the rest of us.

    Less hilariously his license to practice law has been suspended for “mental health issues” and has been arrested multiple times for stalking people.

    When I first read about the lawsuit I didn’t know that was the case……but I knew it was the case. You know?

  95. 95.

    Miss Bianca

    July 7, 2016 at 3:43 pm

    @The Thin Black Duke: A friend of mine said he wanted to see “Idiocracy”, so I just went and put it on hold from the library. Am I the only one who thinks it’s fucking hilarious that right underneath it in our library’s catalog is “The Times of Our Lives: Collected Writings by Peggy Noonan”?! Surely I can’t be!

  96. 96.

    Trollhattan

    July 7, 2016 at 3:44 pm

    @The Thin Black Duke:
    Yes, but…have somebody close to whisper “It’s not a documentary, it’s a scripted movie” as often as necessary. And bring on the Brawndo!

  97. 97.

    Villago Delenda Est

    July 7, 2016 at 3:44 pm

    @NonyNony: In short, a member of srv’s tribe.

  98. 98.

    the Conster, la Citoyenne

    July 7, 2016 at 3:44 pm

    @scav:

    And yesterday we got the House Democrats booing at Bernie Sanders. Can you imagine the shit show fail parade of DERP if those two thin skinned non-tax return releasing shouty old white guys were our only choices? Obama would have to declare a state of emergency.

  99. 99.

    Mnemosyne

    July 7, 2016 at 3:45 pm

    @Trollhattan:

    As other people have pointed out, at least President Camacho was smart enough to want to get advice from the smartest guy in that world. Trump’s not even that smart.

  100. 100.

    dogwood

    July 7, 2016 at 3:46 pm

    @the Conster, la Citoyenne:
    Why’d they boo him?

  101. 101.

    the Conster, la Citoyenne

    July 7, 2016 at 3:47 pm

    @dogwood:

    For being Bernie Sanders.

  102. 102.

    dogwood

    July 7, 2016 at 3:52 pm

    @the Conster, la Citoyenne:
    Ok. That’s where he did the winning elections isn’t the goal thing. Didn’t realize that was the venue.

  103. 103.

    dmsilev

    July 7, 2016 at 3:55 pm

    @Mnemosyne: That’s not true at all. In Trump’s mind, he’s the smartest person in the world, and he obviously listens to himself.

  104. 104.

    chopper

    July 7, 2016 at 3:56 pm

    @Trollhattan:

    two corinthians walk into a bar and forget to close the doric…eh, i got nuthin.

  105. 105.

    schrodinger's cat

    July 7, 2016 at 3:57 pm

    @Miss Bianca: Thanks! I am glad you like it.

  106. 106.

    Mnemosyne

    July 7, 2016 at 3:59 pm

    @dogwood:

    Telling elected officials that winning elections is not the goal is … what’s the strongest iteration of “tone deaf”?

  107. 107.

    CONGRATULATIONS!

    July 7, 2016 at 4:02 pm

    This is the kind of friendly fire I approve of.

    And wow…threatening senators from your own party.

  108. 108.

    different-church-lady

    July 7, 2016 at 4:09 pm

    @NotMax: 0 labeled “Women”

  109. 109.

    different-church-lady

    July 7, 2016 at 4:11 pm

    @Helen:

    Three paragraphs in he’ll revert to his regular stream of bullshit.

    “I am here to endorse Hillary Clinton, in spite of the fact that…”

  110. 110.

    O. Felix Culpa

    July 7, 2016 at 4:12 pm

    @CONGRATULATIONS!:

    And wow…threatening senators from your own party.

    See, that’s the problem, he is not and has not been a member of the party. So he can disregard party concerns and the *trivia* of winning elections without repercussion. Among other reasons: white male of means.

  111. 111.

    different-church-lady

    July 7, 2016 at 4:16 pm

    @NonyNony: I still think he should be allowed to marry the machine he loves.

  112. 112.

    different-church-lady

    July 7, 2016 at 4:21 pm

    @hovercraft:

    Edit for clarity

    I don’t think it took.

  113. 113.

    different-church-lady

    July 7, 2016 at 4:23 pm

    @Trollhattan: “I forget how it ends, but your mother’s a whore.”

  114. 114.

    different-church-lady

    July 7, 2016 at 4:26 pm

    @TriassicSands: Question for Donald Trump: is the pointy one the ass or the elbow?

  115. 115.

    hovercraft

    July 7, 2016 at 4:27 pm

    @different-church-lady:
    I facetiously meant they should get a drump version of this poster

  116. 116.

    GregB

    July 7, 2016 at 4:27 pm

    How much of the RNC convention scheduling will be paid infomercials for Trump Steaks?

  117. 117.

    ThresherK

    July 7, 2016 at 4:33 pm

    @different-church-lady: Wow. Sexbot technology has come a loooong way.

  118. 118.

    different-church-lady

    July 7, 2016 at 4:33 pm

    @The Thin Black Duke:

    I’ve never seen the movie Idiocracy, but considering the lunacy that’s happening right now, I don’t need to, do I?

    Compare “Ow, My Balls” to “Wipeout” and you’ll see that Mike Judge was off by 498 years.

  119. 119.

    hovercraft

    July 7, 2016 at 4:37 pm

    @different-church-lady:
    Donalds proof that the blacks, Latinos and women love him.

    He used this woman’s excitement to infer that Latinos love him

    Look at my African America.

  120. 120.

    WJS

    July 7, 2016 at 4:40 pm

    There isn’t anyone who works for Trump who is willing to explain the particulars of the Electoral College.

    I mean, wow. There’s no one willing to say, “you’re not going to win these states so we’re not going to throw any money at them so that we can focus our resources on the states where we have a chance.”

    And I can guarantee you, Trump doesn’t have significant staff in Illinois to begin with. He just thinks he’s going to win and he has no fear telling a room full of people savvy enough to know he can’t win a reliably blue state this fall that he’s gonna beat Hillary in what amounts to her home state.

    Un-fucking-believable, I suppose, but after months and months of this, it’s really just another day of delusional thinking in public on his part.

  121. 121.

    different-church-lady

    July 7, 2016 at 4:42 pm

    @the Conster, la Citoyenne: Never before now did the idea that Sanders would draw votes away from Trump make any sense to me.

  122. 122.

    different-church-lady

    July 7, 2016 at 4:44 pm

    @WJS:

    There isn’t anyone who works for Trump who is willing to explain the particulars of the Electoral College.

    You’re assuming a lot in thinking there’s any connection at all between the statements that come out of Trump’s mouth and whatever actual campaign operations that might be happening on his behalf.

  123. 123.

    Leto

    July 7, 2016 at 4:47 pm

    In his discussion with senators, Trump claimed that he had inside intelligence about Hillary Clinton’s vetting process for Supreme Court vacancies and that he knew the names of two people the presumptive Democratic nominee is considering nominating, two Republican officials said. But Trump would not reveal those names…

    “My investigators just back from Hawaii and you won’t believe what they found out about Hillary!”

  124. 124.

    different-church-lady

    July 7, 2016 at 4:47 pm

    @the Conster, la Citoyenne:

    “The goal isn’t to win elections, the goal is to transform America,” Sanders said at one point, according to multiple lawmakers and aides in the room.

    And of course the best way to transform a democracy is by losing elections.

  125. 125.

    Trollhattan

    July 7, 2016 at 4:48 pm

    @Leto:
    “Does not use sunscreen of any kind. Sad!”

  126. 126.

    Bex

    July 7, 2016 at 4:56 pm

    @chopper: That joke ventures into the ionic.

  127. 127.

    WJS

    July 7, 2016 at 4:57 pm

    @different-church-lady: I know, but you’d think they would have explained to him that there are states that he’s not going to win. That’s basic politics 101 stuff.

  128. 128.

    Donut

    July 7, 2016 at 4:58 pm

    @chopper:

    I don’t think anyone else has pointed this out yet, but this Article XII shit is on par with Palin’s infamous “all of them, Katie” answer. This is THAT bad. When you wanna do some presidentin’, you should at least know the basics…but how fuckin’ funny is it that the original question to Trump pertained to respecting Article I, like this asshole is gonna respect the Legislative branch? Fuckin’ crazy that one of these douchebags would even go there.

  129. 129.

    EriktheRed

    July 7, 2016 at 5:00 pm

    @smith:

    He also signed on to Tom Cotton’s little “letter” to Iran.

    Tammy Duckworth is gonna throw him down the Senate steps this November.

  130. 130.

    SFAW

    July 7, 2016 at 5:11 pm

    @Trollhattan:

    Re: Corinthians: I’d say “great minds think alike,” but that doesn’t explain me.

    [And, to make it work, they need to be wealthy rich Corinthians. Just sayin’.]

  131. 131.

    sherparick

    July 7, 2016 at 5:26 pm

    After reading the above, all I can add is I have to buy more popcorn. I don’t know what is more fun, watching the Republicans blow shoot themselves in the feet, hands, ears, etc. or watching the Chuck Todds and David Brooks of the world turn themselves into pretzels trying to maintain the doctrine of “both sides.”

    Meanwhile, this joke, from near 30 years ago about the U.K., is still appropriate, although needs some updating:

    From “Yes, Prime Minister…”

    .”..Sir Humphrey: The only way to understand the Press is to remember that they pander to their readers’ prejudices.

    Jim Hacker: Don’t tell me about the Press. I know *exactly* who reads the papers. The Daily Mirror is read by the people who think they run the country. The Guardian is read by people who think they *ought* to run the country. The Times is read by the people who actually *do* run (e.g. Rupert Murdoch) the country. The Daily Mail is read by the wives of the people who run the country. The Financial Times is read by people who *own* the country. The Morning Star is read by people who think the country ought to be run by *another* country (or the EU). The Daily Telegraph is read by the people who think it is.

    Sir Humphrey: Prime Minister, what about the people who read The Sun?

    Bernard Woolley: Sun readers don’t care *who* runs the country – as long as she’s got big tits.”

  132. 132.

    patroclus

    July 7, 2016 at 5:26 pm

    Well, I live in Illinois and I’ve always been concerned about preserving, protecting and defending Article 12 of the Constitution. Given his staunch defense of it today, I’m gonna look into this Trump guy as my candidate.

    Who reads the “Independent”?

  133. 133.

    MCA1

    July 7, 2016 at 5:27 pm

    @Amir Khalid: Which is why this might have been (another) tactical mistake on the part of Der Fuchspeltfuhrer. There are about two dozen separate emergency closed door meetings going on in GOP House Member and Senator offices this afternoon, with bourbon flowing, and the discussion at each one of them starts with “HOLY SHIT THIS GUY IS A DISASTER, what are we going to do!?!?” and ends with a resolution to think about how this convention coup concept could be pursued seriously and post haste.

  134. 134.

    Bobby Thomson

    July 7, 2016 at 5:41 pm

    @Betty Cracker: I really don’t know why anyone expected something different. Just watching his show a few times you can see his MO is never admit errors or weaknesses. Never. Not even little ones to set up a veneer of credibility for the big con.

  135. 135.

    gindy51

    July 7, 2016 at 6:09 pm

    @MCA1: Unless the meetings are booze infused just tossing in the towel sessions and trying to figure out how to rig the rules so a Trump never happens again.

  136. 136.

    SiubhanDuinne

    July 7, 2016 at 6:17 pm

    @Carl W:

    Steve Daines from Montana (I admit I’ve never heard of him) has one that could be simple truth or an elaborate euphemism: “I’ll have my fly rod in my hand with my wife in Montana.”

  137. 137.

    Uncle Cosmo

    July 7, 2016 at 6:23 pm

    @Percysowner: There’s a certain precedent* in the form of Jânio Quadros, who resigned as President of Brazil after less than 7 months in office. Quadros, though, had been in elected office for some years; the resignation seems to have been a bizarre power-play that backfired.

    —-
    * Pun unintended but I’ll accept the award on behalf of my subconscious.

  138. 138.

    The Lodger

    July 7, 2016 at 6:23 pm

    @Calouste: I’m waiting for Kim Jong Zero.

  139. 139.

    NotMax

    July 7, 2016 at 7:03 pm

    @The Lodger

    No calories, same bad taste!

    @different-church-lady</a.

    True dat. The women labels are on binders.

  140. 140.

    Ian

    July 7, 2016 at 7:15 pm

    @PaulWartenberg2016:
    Don’t sympathize. Imagine if your local district attorney came our and said “Paul was a very bad man, he did very bad things. He was very careless and anyone else who did it would be prosecuted. But we don’t have any evidence Paul did any of these things, so please don’t charge him or presume him guilty.”

    ETA: said not dais

  141. 141.

    Uncle Cosmo

    July 7, 2016 at 7:33 pm

    @dmsilev: Does the GOTea Convention require a majority of all delegates to win the nomination? Do the rules allow a pledged delegate to abstain from voting instead of voting for the candidate s/he’s pledged to?*

    If the answer to both questions is “yes” there’s your out right there. A fair hunk of delegates who are pledged to Trump on the first ballot aren’t really (or weren’t really, at the time of the primary) committed to him. (Wasn’t Crooze accused of sneaking his minions onto the Trump slates?)

    According to Gurgle, Trump has 1,542 first-ballot votes with 1,237 needed to nominate (& 31 not yet determined). (Dunno how many of those are specifically pledged or just announced.) Convince 306 of those votes to abstain on the first ballot (plus however many are needed to cancel out any Il Douche supporters lurking amongst the yet to be announced) & Hair Furor doesn’t reach the magic number. And then the fun begins: dive into the popcorn, pour your favorite brew & watch the Greedy Old Plutocrats destroy themselves…
    —-
    * This presumes that there’s no provision in the rules for an alternate to vote if a delegate refuses to vote, or votes “present” or somesuch. Or that the chairman of the state delegation doesn’t just report all XX votes for Trumpolini, or refuses to have the delegation polled when someone objects…

  142. 142.

    Uncle Cosmo

    July 7, 2016 at 7:36 pm

    @Carl W: With cuticle scissors.

  143. 143.

    Uncle Cosmo

    July 7, 2016 at 7:38 pm

    @dmsilev:

    …there are signs that Bernie Sanders is approaching the end of his Dance of the 789 Veryclose Vains…

    FTFY, dogdammit…

  144. 144.

    Uncle Cosmo

    July 7, 2016 at 7:46 pm

    @NotMax: It’s

    And when the m-moon shines, not

    When the m-m-m-moon shines

    Fercrapsake, dint yinz even listen to the song??

    /pedant

  145. 145.

    Uncle Cosmo

    July 7, 2016 at 7:49 pm

    @hovercraft:

    We need someone to make a Trump ‘I got this’ poster

    For the background photo, use the one with his daughter on his lap. In case they’ve forgotten.

  146. 146.

    Uncle Cosmo

    July 7, 2016 at 7:52 pm

    @TriassicSands:

    Trump knows less about government — and specifically the US government — than typical high school juniors. (And they know very little.)

    Hell’s bells, he probably knows less than my illiterate Italian maternal grandfather did when he flunked the citizenship exam the first time.

  147. 147.

    NotMax

    July 7, 2016 at 7:55 pm

    @Uncle Cosmo

    Nope. Check out the sheet music in this YouTube link with contemporaneous recording.

  148. 148.

    Uncle Cosmo

    July 7, 2016 at 7:59 pm

    @Trollhattan: What’s the difference between a traumatized chicken & the GOP?

    One is a flustered cluck & the other…

  149. 149.

    Captain C

    July 7, 2016 at 8:54 pm

    @Miss Bianca: As a librarian myself, I find that to be quite hilarious.

  150. 150.

    Captain C

    July 7, 2016 at 8:56 pm

    @chopper: Ionic, isn’t it?

  151. 151.

    Barry

    July 7, 2016 at 11:07 pm

    @PaulWartenberg2016: “The Comey witch-hunt is starting to make me sympathize with the SOB.”

    He’s the guy who feels that talking about police murders hurts the police.

    If he finds himself between the Devil and the deep blue sea, it’s just karma calling.

  152. 152.

    Paul in KY

    July 8, 2016 at 11:07 am

    @Percysowner: If he resigned after the electoral college had done it’s stuff, the VP would become President.

  153. 153.

    Paul in KY

    July 8, 2016 at 11:09 am

    @The Thin Black Duke: You could watch it in the vein of a future-documentary.

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