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  2. 2.

    JPL

    Trump rally.. crooked Hillary and people are mean to me. I heard enough of his rallies, that I don’t need to hear another one. Life is too short.

  3. 3.

    Mai.naem.mobile

    Pence? Newt? Hmmm…which one would be more fun to see humiliated? Buying popcorn futures.

  4. 4.

    Adam L Silverman

    Either the acoustics where he’s speaking are terrible or almost no one is applauding his applause lines.

  6. 6.

    Ferd ofthe Nort

    So. The Republican Party platform has po-run as a major public health risk. Guns are not. Funny, at the scene of a mass shooting guns are reloaded so much faster.

  8. 8.

    Jim, Foolish Literalist

    @Mai.naem.mobile: I think Newt’s volatility– and generally loathsome, pull-the-wings-off-of-flies personality– make him a much more beneficial choice. For our side.

    @Adam L Silverman:

    Christopher Hayes ‏@ chrislhayes 29m29 minutes ago
    Crowd looks utterly bewildered, tbh. #inners
    Christopher Hayes ‏@ chrislhayes 28m28 minutes ago
    This speech is less manic and bizarre but just as rambling as his last one. #inners

  12. 12.

    Adam L Silverman

    @Jim, Foolish Literalist: He’s not as amped as he often is, but 1) its late in the evening – he normally doesn’t do this stuff this late and 2) its the same material he always does.

  14. 14.

    Betty Cracker

    No thanks! I’ve come down with a nasty cold and am quite miserable enough without hearing the pumpkin-flavored arsenic marshmallow shouting on the TV.

  16. 16.

    Adam L Silverman

    @amk: It is the duty and responsibility of citizenship to be informed. If you don’t want to watch, don’t watch. I think its important that we post the live feeds to what both candidates are saying when possible.

  17. 17.

    Mai.naem.mobile

    @JPL: Also too – ‘I give them the highest ratings’, ‘I don’t like mosquitoes’,’build the wall’ and ‘my African American.’

  18. 18.

    Adam L Silverman

    @Betty Cracker: Be careful there’s a respiratory infection going around the region. I had it three weeks ago and it took almost two weeks of misery till it cleared.

  24. 24.

    redshirt

    @Adam L Silverman:

    It is the duty and responsibility of citizenship to be informed. If you don’t want to watch, don’t watch. I think its important that we post the live feeds to what both candidates are saying when possible.

    Agreed 100%.

    That’s why I’m here – so other Patriots can summarize for me.

  26. 26.

    Mai.naem.mobile

    @Adam L Silverman: that would be the mike guys fault so Deadbeat Don won’t be paying the mike guy. Possibly the facility won’t get paid either because they didn’t make Deadbeat Don look klassy.

  28. 28.

    hovercraft

    @Adam L Silverman:
    But the delivery is less manic and more like repetitive scattershot grampa who gets confused a lot. The audience is just not into him tonight.

  29. 29.

    JPL

    I just put it on.. CBSN
    He can’t say whether or not Pence will be Governor or Vice-President, but he knows Pence will complain because of the phone calls. The phone calls will be because he’s winning too much. The minute I saw was crazy, but weirdly not as manic as last week. Even with medication, he’s crazy.. hmmm

  35. 35.

    JPL

    @hovercraft: Thanks. I only listened to the last minute and not as manic was my feeling. I didn’t listen to the entire speech, but I assume it was an hour of repetitiveness.

  37. 37.

    rikyrah

    Luvvie’s at it again:

    …………….

    My Melanin-Deficient Readers Respond to Negotiate Terms of #BLAXIT
    Awesomely Luvvie — July 12, 2016

    Yesterday, I published a post on what Black folks will take with us if we decided to make our exit (BLAXIT) from the United States. It was jumped off by Ulysses Burley III at The Salt Collective and basically, we are taking EVERYTHING awesome. Because we created/invented/brought them.

    My white readers realized that they will be left with emptiness, and their comments made me howl. Some negotiated, some hit their wall slide, and some insisted we bring them with us. My Asian and Latinx sisters replied too, because they will be on our side: because minority solidarity.

    Here are some of the conversations, from my comments and my Awesomely Luvvie Facebook Page.

    Melissa: Heavens, I think us white people are down to dried peas and smallpox.

    Josh: I’m just a white dude but I will miss most of this too much. Can I come along if I promise to be cool?

    Tesha: Josh, because you asked nicely (and because we might need some manual laborers in Onyxica), yes, you may join us. Just know your stay will be subject to periodic reviews and you’ll be rooming with Wayne Brady.

    Lauren: You’re going to leave kitten heels aren’t you? Just for spite.

    Luvvie: Hell yeah. We want this to hurt.

    Carly: I like kitten heels. My beauties, I will barter with you. I am going to create the IBJLC, the International Black-Jewish Lady Coalition, it will make NAFTA look like a joke. Mmmm, you’re gonna want some of this pastrami on rye, Donna Karan knits and polio vaccines. I will trade you some Law for some Jazz. <3

    Jessica: We gotta take the polio vaccine and any other medicinal breakthrough based of the use of HeLa cells. Just saying.

    Cynthia: Welp. With that, white society has been annihilated.

  40. 40.

    Schlemazel Khan

    @Adam L Silverman:
    It is a live feed, you have to go back further every minute, it was at 51:something when I started

    I can’t do it, just can’t watch him for more than 10 minutes . . . it is horrible.

  41. 41.

    Adam L Silverman

    For a man who doesn’t want the support of the people that ran against him in the primary, he sure seems obsessed with the fact that they signed a pledge and need to support him.

  43. 43.

    Mai.naem.mobile

    Maybe they’re giving him Xanax to counteract the meth. Oh,wait,I’m confusing GOP candidates. Its Palin who sounds and looks like the meth head.

  44. 44.

    gf120581

    @Groucho48: Well, he certainly told a big one when he said to his fellow IN Republicans: “Don’t worry, no one will care about this anti-gay law we’re passing.”

  47. 47.

    Adam L Silverman

    @Major Major Major Major: Do you need to know that information? More seriously, the last time I was called, which was when I was in grad school, I was released because I had to both attend classes and teach classes.

  50. 50.

    Renie

    My congrats to anyone who is watching this feed. You are of a stronger character. I would throw up.

  52. 52.

    burnspbesq

    @Mai.naem.mobile:

    Buying popcorn futures.

    If you’d bought popcorn futures in 2014, you’d be richer than Lloyd Blankfein and Jamie Dimon combined. You’d be a Certified Vampire Squid.

  53. 53.

    hovercraft

    Today has been a study in contrasts, Hillary and Bernie both gave good kumbaya speeches focusing on policy. Obama and Bush gave speeches about police, community relations, to combat the tensions between the police and the communities they serve. And then there was Trump. I guess he had to speak as well, but it should have been a teleprompter speech because what he delivered was a terrible speech, made worse when compared to the four other speeches we heard today.

  55. 55.

    JPL

    @Adam L Silverman: Once when I was in the wait category with others for jury duty, some jerk was spouting about government education and such. He then raised the topic of paid jurors and I responded that was one way he might get a jury of his peers, if need be. He walked away.

  56. 56.

    I'mNotSureWhoIWantToBeYet

    @Baud: Haven’t you heard? He’s smart and wonky, young and handsome, fit as a fiddle (I hear he ran a marathon in less than 2 hours and climbed all the 30,000 foot peaks in the Rockies), knows the Federal Budget like he knows the back of his head, is from the Real American Heartland™, and Is Going to Save the Republican Party™.

    I think I heard all that stuff somewhere.

    I can’t watch because I need to floss and cut my toenails.

    Cheers,
    Scott.

  57. 57.

    Corner Stone

    @Baud:

    @scbrodinger’s cat: Where have you been?

    If I had to guess I’d say neither here nor there.

  65. 65.

    Anne Laurie

    @Steeplejack (phone): I prefer to catch Ryan (& Trump) at second-hand, via livestream. Or perhaps a better analogy would be using the Guardian the way scientists use filtered glass to look at potentially dangerous astronomical objects…

  69. 69.

    Emma

    @Anne Laurie: Me, I wait for all of you to go on safari and bring back reports. I tried listening to Trump once, and about ten minutes in I realized I was starting to claw at my ears, so I stopped. Permanently.

  70. 70.

    Steeplejack (phone)

    @Baud:. I have no fucking idea. I just ran across it while looking for Trump.

    ETA: maybe he’s going for “We’re not all Trump,” but “We’re incompetent, corrupt hacks” is not a good look either.

  72. 72.

    Adam L Silverman

    @amk: I do policy, strategy, clown videos, bundy updates, and fill in recipes. There’s a lot of speculation he’s going to/was going to announce his VP choice tonight. Figured that was worth putting the live feed up. All of the rallies, from both parties, need to be viewed and considered. That way everyone can hear and see without it being filtered through the various media outlets. But if it makes you feel better to complain, please knock yourself out.

  73. 73.

    Anne Laurie

    @Adam L Silverman: This is why I prefer to use my legal name when commenting… I’ve typed it often enough that I have a pretty good chance of spelling it correctly… most of the time.

  75. 75.

    Adam L Silverman

    @Jeffro: Every one of his rallies is basically him doing the same thing. If he doesn’t feel that something is playing well with the crowd, he moves on. If he thinks its doing well he doubles down. Until he hits something he’s obsessed with, then he just works it over and over and over.

  76. 76.

    Chris

    @Emma:

    I tried listening to Trump once, and about ten minutes in I realized I was starting to claw at my ears, so I stopped.

    He might have permanently ruined New Yawk accents, mannerisms and speech patterns for me.

  79. 79.

    ? Martin

    The only possible upside to watching a Trump rally is getting to see the meteor strike in real-time.

  87. 87.

    Schlemazel Khan

    @Baud:
    I tried to watch the Drumpster fire but cold only make it 10 minutes. I’d need The Clockwork Orange treatment to see the whole thing

  89. 89.

    hovercraft

    @Anne Laurie:
    The Freedom Caucus has forced him to shelve his plan to hold lame NRA gun reform votes that would never have become law but would have allowed the house to claim they were trying to stop ‘terrorists’ from buying guns.

  90. 90.

    jibeaux

    Like the universe loves me enough for Trump to pick Gingrich. I do not have that kind of luck.

  91. 91.

    Steeplejack (phone)

    @Anne Laurie:

    WTF? ON all my devices my nym and e-mail address are pre-filled for comments. Have you disallowed cookies from BJ?

  92. 92.

    dmsilev

    So, how long will this last? I mean, it will _seem_ like an eternity, but in actual time?

  93. 93.

    Adam L Silverman

    @Anne Laurie: Did CNN ever have Nancy Pelosi do a town hall when she was Speaker? Or Senator Reid when he was Majority Leader? Exactly why does Speaker Ryan get one?

  94. 94.

    CaseyL

    @I’mNotSureWhoIWantToBeYet: You floss your toenails? What, are they talons?

    ETA: I’m totally not watching the rally, nor the town hall. Saving my GOP-watching quota for the convention. Hoping for injuries. Serious ones.

  100. 100.

    Corner Stone

    This motherfucking fucker Paul Ryan. Jake Tapper just let him shit all over the stage of CNN. Nothing out of Jake’s mouth to counterbalance that shitpost from Ryan.
    What a fucking fuck.

  102. 102.

    Emma

    @Corner Stone: You are still assuming the American media personalities are interested in truth and falsehood? And here I was thinking you were one of my most charmingly cynical acquaintances!

  103. 103.

    Betty Cracker

    @Adam L Silverman: Maybe it distresses the network to see the GOP flailing around in the tar pit, so they’re hauling the youthful, handsome Ryan out to prove that the species isn’t really endangered.

  104. 104.

    Davebo

    How long will it take for the “Silent Majority” to finally catch on that they are neither?

  105. 105.

    NotMax

    re: listening to any Trump “speech” –

    “I feel a disturbance in the Force, as if a billion brain cells cried out in agony and were suddenly silenced.”

  111. 111.

    Corner Stone

    @Emma: I can still declare Poutrage! as needed.
    Just amazes me that Paul Ryan widow’s peakly declares how far to the left the D party has moved and Tapper does not say one god damned word back at him about it.

  112. 112.

    Anne Laurie

    @Steeplejack (phone): Nah, I just meant that I prefer to use ‘Anne Laurie’ when I pick an identifier, because that way I don’t have to remember separate nyms for every site.

    Nobody spells their name quite like mine — which means, of course, that it’s misspelled more often than not. I really, genuinely sympathize with Ieshia Evans, the nurse in the Baton Rouge news photo!

  114. 114.

    Miss Bianca

    @Betty Cracker: My laptop seems to be only randomly accessing feeds. Guess i’ll have to miss it and just groove on the commentary instead. Aw, damn.

  115. 115.

    Jeffro

    @Corner Stone:

    This motherfucking fucker Paul Ryan. Jake Tapper just let him shit all over the stage of CNN. Nothing out of Jake’s mouth to counterbalance that shitpost from Ryan.
    What a fucking fuck.

    I was just saying similar (but not as to the point) in the other thread…Ryan was talking about how he simply HAS to support Trump, otherwise he’ll get (gasp) President Hillary Clinton and…and…well, you know the rest.

    I dunno, Paul. I think you might get a few votes…heck, you might have helped inoculate the GOP from the Trump Virus in the first place…if you had actually put your principles out there. Oh wait, you did and most folks saw right through it, so now this is what you do for a living. Sad!

  117. 117.

    Adam L Silverman

    @Betty Cracker: Who knows at this point. Everything is solely about putting eyeballs on sponsored advertisements. They probably did a quick cost/benefit analysis, determined it would get at least a small ratings bump for the time block, and went with it. What would be interesting to find out is if this was CNN initiated or Speaker Ryan initiated.

  122. 122.

    Emma

    @Corner Stone: Jake Tapper thinks the way to climb to the top of the slime pile is to bag himself a Clinton. He has the morals of an alligator after a three day fast to match his ambitions, so he’ll do and say — or not say — anything to that effect.

  123. 123.

    Anne Laurie

    @Adam L Silverman:

    Did CNN ever have Nancy Pelosi do a town hall when she was Speaker?

    Too lazy to check, but I remember some long-form TV interviews when she became the first female Speaker. Most of the (male) interviewers were very, very concerned that she would be insufficiently sympathetic to the wounded fee-fees of the men on the other side of the aisle. I remember writing at least one nasty front-page post when Luke Russert, Voice of the Media Village Idiocracy, asked her to her face whether she shouldn’t just step down immediately, because she was so old and female and stuff, because the Democrat Party needed fresh young testosterone-infused spokesmen like Eric Cantor, Paul Ryan, and Mike Lee.

  124. 124.

    Jeffro

    @Adam L Silverman: So basically…if he’s without a Teleprompter, he does whatever it takes to keep the crowd rolling…if he has a Teleprompter (and therefore a very small, hand-chosen audience) he stays on topic and stays relatively sane. Sort of.

    All I know is that my extremely unscientific Jeffro Family & Friends polling (sample is skewed: most F&F lean right to various degrees) to date has almost zero Trump enthusiasts, a couple of begrudging/likely Trump voters who really have not yet processed their grief, and a couple of surprisingly strident anti-Trump voices I would not have expected. My very religious-right mom here in VA and my fairly-Libertarian cousin in MT, both of whom would normally line up for the GOP candidate like clockwork, are quite appalled by Trump and will not vote for him under any circumstances. Works for me!

  128. 128.

    Adam L Silverman

    @NotMax: Speaking of airliners. I’ve been watching the DB Cooper documentary that History Channel put together. Four hours over two episodes. I’m 3/4 of the way through. Very interesting how they’ve laid this one out.

  131. 131.

    hovercraft

    @Corner Stone:
    Didn’t you catch Dan Rather last night cautioning that with democratic platform being finalized, Hillary had been pulled to the far left, and the only reason she may possibly survive it is that Drump is such a flawed candidate, but if he can discipline himself he can still win since she is now such a lefty. Warren is too liberal and would hurt Hillary, but Pence and Noot are mainstream. Your liberal media.

  132. 132.

    Jim, Foolish Literalist

    @Anne Laurie: Luke Russert, Voice of the Media Village Idiocracy

    Little Lord LuckySperm, making Meghan McCain seem self-aware since 2008

  133. 133.

    Emma

    @Gin & Tonic: I’ve actually turned down invitations to go. I went to Reno on a business trip a donkey years ago and soon realized a city oriented towards gambling was not for me. I jumped about a foot when, while, ahem, taking care of business in one of the hotel’s conference floor bathrooms, I heard a one-arm bandit go off almost near my ear. Turns out the hotel/casino put one in the ladies’ waiting room so they wouldn’t get bored while in line.

  138. 138.

    Jeffro

    @hovercraft: DR really said all that? That’s nuts. That’s more Village horse-race kind of stuff than I’d expect from Chuck Todd, even.

  140. 140.

    SiubhanDuinne

    @schrodinger’s cat:
    @Anne Laurie:
    @Baud:

    Wait, wait, are you all saying you type your nym afresh every time you comment here? My nym and email autofill in the little boxes. I’d never say a word around here if I had to worry about spelling “SiubhanDuinne” correctly each time.

  142. 142.

    Anne Laurie

    @Betty Cracker:

    Maybe it distresses the network to see the GOP flailing around in the tar pit, so they’re hauling the youthful, handsome Ryan out to prove that the species isn’t really endangered.

    I’m sure that was Tapper’s intention, but Ryan seems to have gotten absolutely no love at all from the Republicans in the audience. The #NeverTrump ones called him a shill for the worst ideas in politics, the pro-(mostly reluctantly)-Trumpers thought he wasn’t defending Donald very sincerely, and the rest of the questioners held up every unpopular mealy-mouthed arse-covering choice he’s made over the last weeks & months for further derision.

    Ryan’s very obviously trying to play both sides against the middle, and (so far) failing badly. The only way he comes out of the Cleveland convention with his hide intact is if his fellow Repubs on the platform make even larger targets of themselves… not a bad bet with people like Trump, Gingrich and the various Talibangelicals up there!

  144. 144.

    dmsilev

    @Emma: Did it include a word describing an establishment which features exchanging money for plays at games of chance?

  145. 145.

    Lizzy L

    From Heather Parton, aka Digby: “Reality check: Clinton is a mainstream Democratic politician and not particularly dishonest or corrupt by mainstream politician standards. Compared to Trump she is a saint. He is literally a conman. She is smart, experienced and knowledgeable and he is … not. She’s also imperfect and will probably screw up in ways that will make us very unhappy. They all do, some more than others and she may end up being one of the bad ones. But she is not a mentally unbalanced, nationalist, authoritarian demagogue.”

    Real patriots, of whatever party, will acknowledge this. That Paul Ryan does not have the integrity to do so says everything about him that anyone needs to know. Bought AND paid for.

  148. 148.

    Adam L Silverman

    @NotMax: He’s got a primary opponent to get through first who would also have a pretty good complaint to make for equal time as well. Not to mention illegal campaign contribution in kind.

  149. 149.

    ThresherK (GPad)

    @Jeffro: It didn’t help that Ryan’s statement about Trump wasn’t as strong as Groucho’s “Those are my principles. If you don’t like them, I have others.”

  154. 154.

    NotMax

    @Gin & Tonic

    Rule #1 of Las Vegas eating: Avoid any establishment with anything even tangentially related to a method of transportation in its name (Stagecoach, Depot, Corral, etc.).

  156. 156.

    Adam L Silverman

    @NotMax: This is actually based on an independent investigation undertaken by a pair of journalists and the investigative team they put together that’s taken almost five years. History Channel then brought in the former Assistant Director of the FBI (Tom Fuentes) and another investigative journalist who focuses on crime to independently vet what the two journalists and their team have uncovered and what they think it means. So far its been very interesting.

  157. 157.

    Adam L Silverman

    @Anne Laurie: He’s in serious trouble. If the Freedom Caucus gets any larger, or if it stays the same size, but his overall majority gets smaller, he’s done as Speaker even if he gets reelected.

  159. 159.

    redshirt

    @NotMax: True. But I was lucky enough to only watch History Channel on Mondays and they just recently aired a series called “Barbarians” that was like, history based. It was entertaining.

  160. 160.

    Gin & Tonic

    When one unwittingly types a comment that goes into moderation, then corrects oneself, and then always-on-top-of-events Adam releases the original, the exchange ends up looking foolish. No good deed goes unpunished, Adam.

  161. 161.

    NonyNony

    @Emma:

    OK, why does a simple story about a trip to Reno go into moderation?

    Did you accidentally use an UNSPEAKABLE WORD that caused the Great and Powerful FYWP to censor your post?

    A trip to Reno may have included the UNSPEAKABLE WORD “ca see no”. A word that will immediately get your post shunted into some horrible netherhell. I know that I’ve accidentally used it with respect to Trump and had that happen.

  162. 162.

    ThresherK (GPad)

    @dmsilev: I am a bastard and there are eight living D’Ascoynes who need to die so I can claim my inheritance.

    This explains my expertise with explosives, too.

  164. 164.

    Jeffro

    Semi-OT but W did not sound like he’s in the best of health. Not sure what the issue might be, but he is clearly lisping/slurring a bit and as tempting as it might be to attribute it to drink, I don’t think that’s it.

  165. 165.

    muddy

    Adam, I was thinking of what you said before about Trump wearing a bulletproof vest and that’s why his suits are so ridiculously big. But I saw this pic and it’s clear that he carries his weight from the waist down. Perhaps it’s a bulletproof diaper. He also takes that models pose where he sticks his butt out so he looks thinner from the front. Of course no one can see him from the side so that totally works.

    I’m not even going to start on the fucking fatuous face he has on.

  167. 167.

    Anne Laurie

    @Davebo:

    How long will it take for the “Silent Majority” to finally catch on that they are neither?

    Oh, they have — what do you think “Take Our Country Back” really means? Let’s go back to the days when white men could force women, furriners & colored people to show them some respect!

    Are you old enough to remember the Reagan-era slogan ‘The Moral Majority is Neither’?

  171. 171.

    Betty Cracker

    @Anne Laurie: Glad to hear it! I tried to watch but didn’t last more than a minute or two. I cannot abide the smarmy little shitweasel, and he wasn’t getting pummeled when I tuned in…

  173. 173.

    Adam L Silverman

    @Gin & Tonic: I get to them as fast as I can. Its not my fault you all are so verdamt impatient. The worst is when I go in and there’s three to fifteen variations of the same thing stuck in there. I know you all are trying to troubleshoot what caused the problem, but a wee bit of restraint would be appreciated!

    If I’m here active in a comments section, then I’m actively checking the sin bin for you all.

  175. 175.

    Steeplejack (phone)

    @Gin & Tonic:

    All I said was that the casino food is usually all right even in the small casinos, and the Stagecoach was the one where you were. I also recommended Lotus of Siam in Las Vegas. Other people had other recommendations. But feel free to continue cursing the darkness.

  179. 179.

    hovercraft

    @Jeffro: Yes he said that crap, except for the last line about Pence and Noot, that was my interpretation of all the Warren is too liberal talk. The only criticisms we hear about his short list are approval ratings, boring, too egotistical, Bridgegate, etc. there has been no talk of anyones ideology as far as I can tell.

  180. 180.

    Emma

    Adam, are you the AL Silverman of Preliminary results from voices of the Mada’in in the Cambridge Review of International Affairs?

  186. 186.

    I'mNotSureWhoIWantToBeYet

    @Adam L Silverman: Bernie looked pretty bad today, also too, when he was hunched over the lecturn. It made his neck vanish. Not a good look.

    Cheers,
    Scott.

  188. 188.

    Miss Bianca

    @efgoldman: err…how about a ‘no’ on that one? “Sharknado Meets Baywatch” might blow *your* dress up, but I’m gonna go ahead and give that one a thumbs-down.

  197. 197.

    Adam L Silverman

    @Emma: I am. I do wish to apologize, they never sent me a galley proof to check before they published and it appears that they actually added commas to every sentence I wrote. I tried to reread it a few months back and it made my eyes hurt.

    Is there a specific question I can answer for you?

  201. 201.

    gogol's wife

    So Trump isn’t announcing his VP tonight? I think whoever said Caitlyn Jenner has it right.

    Just watched Endeavour Coda again. Really good. Roger Allam is the best.

  203. 203.

    NotMax

    @SiubhanDuinne

    “I shot an arrow into the air. She fell to Earth in Berkeley Square.”

    If Sub Diane is a hoagie roll with sliced Steak Diane on it, color me there.

  204. 204.

    FlyingToaster

    @Major Major Major Major: Lucky he wasn’t in Massachusetts. We don’t have jury duty often, but you can at best only reschedule. If you’re resident in the state, you don’t get a choice — it’s “One Day or One Trial” and if you don’t show they’ll issue a bench warrant and send your town’s police over to your house.

  206. 206.

    Eric U.

    @JPL: they should pay jurors. Last time I was at jury selection day it became clear that the majority of people there would have suffered economic hardship if they were selected for a jury. The guy next to me was ecstatic when they announced we would be released early because that meant he could go to work. What if he was selected for the totally pointless civil suit with 5 teams of lawyers, each who felt compelled to ask the same questions? He might have ended up homeless. Back when they established $9 a day for jury duty, it probably was a day’s pay for a working class laborer.

  209. 209.

    Corner Stone

    If anyone can explain the #volvowedding commercial to me I would really appreciate it.

  212. 212.

    Miss Bianca

    @gogol’s wife: So, has Trump *not* announced his VP pick tonight? Is the rally over? I’m finding it hard to tell, in the maze of conversation upon other topics.

  219. 219.

    Betty Cracker

    @Corner Stone: The magnificently bearded gent is reflecting on his daughter’s wedding bitter sweetly. His wife senses his pensiveness and plays a song he likes. It cheers him up.

  221. 221.

    Adam L Silverman

    @I’mNotSureWhoIWantToBeYet: I hope so. Though I was out sick from the gym for three weeks…

    I was really wishing he’d finish his speech today with: “Now, since I’ve ended my campaign and endorsed our nominee, I’d finally like someone to take my order. I want a turkey and chopped liver on marble rye – don’t skimp on the schmaltz! Two pickle spears, the good potato salad, and an egg cream.”

    I waited during every debate, every rally, and he never did it.

  224. 224.

    redshirt

    @Adam L Silverman: A good doggie.

    It was a great series. The only downside for me, and it was fairly big, was the weird selection of “experts” they brought on camera, who I felt added little to the subject. Why is Tulsi Gabbard commenting on Hannibal? For example. Most of them were totally out of place. If they needed to put faces on the series, just use actual historians (of which there were a couple IIRC).

  226. 226.

    Corner Stone

    @Betty Cracker: That’s his *wife* driving? Holy shit. I have been thinking this whole time it was his daughter.

    ETA, either way, that is shit music.

  228. 228.

    FlyingToaster

    @Major Major Major Major: I’m sure you’d have enjoyed it. Heh.

    It’s only a little sucky when you have your sister and her husband using your apartment as their US voting address; they contacted his university (he was a professor) and her college at Oxford (grad student) to confirm that they weren’t physically resident before they let them out of jury duty.

  229. 229.

    NotMax

    @Gin & Tonic

    Seeing or hearing the name Guido always makes me fondly recall Jackie Vernon’s great, timeless routine. Remains funny lo these many decades later.

    @Miss Bianca

    There were reports much earlier today that Gingrich had tweeted along the lines that Trump would announce “tomorrow or probably Thursday.”

  233. 233.

    Adam L Silverman

    @redshirt: Its possible she wrote an article or thesis on it. She’s not been to Command and General Staff College yet (she’s only been a major for a year and she wouldn’t have time with her Congressional schedule), so its not her Intermediate Leader Education level research project.

  234. 234.

    Eric U.

    I heard David Brooks the other day on NPR. He was unhinged. Sounded like Hannity without the annoying squeaky voice. I hate how there is a standard setup with an admitted republican operative like Brooks who is supposed to be balanced by a journalist that would probably get fired if they made a partisan statement. Just made me happy I haven’t given NPR money for 20 years.

    Kinda wish I could get a refund of all the money I gave them in the previous 15 years

  235. 235.

    Emma

    @Adam L Silverman: Not until I actually read it. A year or so ago a professional acquaintance of mine who works, or worked, on oral histories asked me to get her a few articles from our databases and it included that one. Having a pack rat mind, your name stuck somewhere and it had been driving me crazy so I scholar.googled you. Now I’ll get my own copy; it sounds fascinating.

  238. 238.

    Miss Bianca

    @Omnes Omnibus: So, I’ve started “Luther”…about to go off and watch the third episode…am I imagining things, or is shit going to get really, really weird with this Amy or Alice chick…the redhead?

  239. 239.

    Adam L Silverman

    @Emma: I can email you the pdf they sent me of the published copy. Would you please email me offline, I have a question for you. Email address on the contact list to the right. Thanks!

  240. 240.

    NotMax

    @redshirt

    Why is Tulsi Gabbard commenting on Hannibal?

    Maui had a mayor (also the former chief of police) whose first name was Hannibal.

    Close enough. :)

  241. 241.

    Adam L Silverman

    @redshirt: I don’t know if she wrote a paper about Jesse Jackson either. That would be an unusual topic for a Command and General Staff College research project.

  243. 243.

    Jeffro

    Btw finally had a chance to watch the PBO speech from earlier today in its entirety and while I’ve obviously gotten spoiled by so many great speeches from this man, this was excellent. I’m not fired up, I’m not down, was just glad to hear so many relevant angles brought into the discussion.

    And heaven help me, and regardless of whatever is going on with him (medically or otherwise) these days, W’s speech as about as fitting a tribute to the fallen officers as one could have hoped for. If Gerson was tapped for writing duties it wouldn’t surprise me. Well done, ya jerks.

  245. 245.

    Corner Stone

    I swear to Christ. If RBG backs off her statements due to “Knowing what I know now I certainly wouldn’t do it again.” I may burn every fucking thing down.

  253. 253.

    Miss Bianca

    Well, a church camp in my county has just been evacuated, and the fire seems to be expanding at the rate of about 5,000 acres every 24 hours. 0% contained.

    @Omnes Omnibus: Not even if requested?

  255. 255.

    J R in WV

    @I’mNotSureWhoIWantToBeYet:

    As minerals, these substances are actually quite beautiful, in most cases. “Rock hounds” and mineral collectors often have things around the place that would be quite dangerous if handled while fixing dinner. Even radioactive, uranium containing minerals are georgous!

    Look at THIS for example, a copper uranium silicate (the long acicular crystals) with a copper uranium lead oxide (the square tabular crystals). This is almost 3 inches wide. These are pretty dangerous as the fragile bits can be inhaled. But very pretty.

    I don’t keep anything like this around, but lead and arsenic containing minerals are relatively safe, and very pretty for the most part.

  259. 259.

    NotMax

    @Adam L. Silverman

    Oy. Pickle spears are a red flag warning of a mediocre Jewish deli.

    Chilled stainless steel container on the table with free whole pickles (both sour dills and half-sour) standing in some crushed ice and water is a minimum standard. If pickled tomato halves are also in there, you cannot go wrong ordering anything in the joint.

  262. 262.

    SiubhanDuinne

    @Miss Bianca:

    How odd that you should mention John Belushi. I just found out earlier today that the sister of a high school friend was John Belushi’s wife. I had no idea.

  266. 266.

    Adam L Silverman

    @srv: I don’t necessarily disagree with you. On several grounds. One is theoretical/ethical: there is a concept called just revolution theory. It is almost as little discussed as crusade theory in the Western tradition of the ethics and norms of war and political violence literature and discussion that stretches back through Christian theology and ethics to the Romans. Basically just revolution theory has two components. The first is that in an illiberal, as in tyrannical or authoritarian or dictatorial or totalitarian state and society (regardless of the doctrinal underpinnings), everyone has a right to rebel in order to seek freedom and justice. The second is that in a liberal or just state and society, when the state refuses to protect specific groups or demographics or classes of people, they have the right to rebel in order to defend themselves and to throw off their oppression and seek justice and a better, more just, and more liberal order.

    The second is just read the comments threads about law enforcement on conservative websites. It ranges from completely supportive – if you haven’t done anything wrong you have nothing to hide – to why does law enforcement claim they’re not civilians? Why do they get special rights and privileges that the rest of us don’t, such as Law Officers’ Bills of Rights, carve outs to state and local firearm regulations, indemnity for civil liability for doing their jobs? To echoes of Michelle Fiore’s recent statement that if a cop draws his gun on her, then she’s going to draw her gun on the cop in self defense as he (or she) is now a threat to her.

    There is a lot of hostility towards law enforcement in the US right now and not all of it is on the left of center or among people of color. I fully expect that something very, very bad is going to happen at some point (as in make what happened in Dallas last week look like a kid’s party with cake and ice cream and a pinata and a pony ride). The question is will that actually force us to fix all the systemic problems with our criminal justice system or will we default to a major crackdown by basically authorizing the cops to reestablish order regardless. It is this last part that I do not know the answer too.

  271. 271.

    Adam L Silverman

    @NotMax: I know. I used to love the old Rascal House on Miami Beach for both of those and their parve slaw in a similar container.

    I was assuming, however, this was a to go order.

  272. 272.

    Omnes Omnibus

    @efgoldman:

    And if you’re so goddamned smart, what color dress am I wearing. huh?

    Trick question. It’s a skirt. Call it a kilt all you want, old boy, it is still a skirt.

  274. 274.

    pseudonymous in nc

    @Adam L Silverman:

    He teased Pence, but no announcement and its over.

    Worst season of The Bachelor ever.

    He’s going to do teaser rallies for the next week, and the press pack will dutifully follow him around for it.

  275. 275.

    FlyingToaster

    @efgoldman: You can reschedule, sure. I’ve done it when we had out-of-town product launches scheduled for my jury day. They offered me a slot 60 days later and I was fine with it.

    I was 6 months pregnant the second-to-last time I was called, so I went and spent the day in that sick old courthouse (Sullivan in Cambridge; they still haven’t managed to tear it down). I just went to the bathroom a lot :)

    I know about the bench warrant and cops because I lived in Somerville for 15 years and there was always one idiot neighbor…

  280. 280.

    J R in WV

    @Corner Stone:

    In WV the last time I was called for jury duty they paid us $40/day, plus mileage from home to the courthouse. Plus as a state employee, I got paid for showing up. Unfortunately, actually being selected for a jury is stressful, as lives and homes and livelihoods are at stake.

    I’ve done two murder trials, a civil case, and a grand jury, which was the worst. Details on the Grand Jury would be triggering for everyone. But it is our civic duty, which is why I never tried to avoid it.

  283. 283.

    redshirt

    @Miss Bianca: Read Free Republic sometime when your stomach is strong. While you will no doubt be appalled by the overall opinions, you’ll also be amazed how much some of them distrust everyone – Government, police, military, religion, etc. For example, a seeming majority hate Fox News. And the Republican Party.

  285. 285.

    Gex

    Just saw this fly by on Facebook:

    according to DNC rules, bernie will not be allowed to speak at the convention unless he endorses clinton. but note that he still hasn’t conceded… which is exactly what FDR did in `32. endorsed his opponent, but didn’t concede. went to philly with his delegation, contested it… and *won*.

  288. 288.

    Adam L Silverman

    @Emma: I just sent you a pdf of the article – again I apologize for all the extra commas – to the address you use here. So if that’s not an actual address, please shoot me an email. And I’ll resend.

  291. 291.

    J R in WV

    @Adam L Silverman:

    I found links to the article, and it appears to cost $208 for that issue, or $48 for the article. Any chance you could email me a copy? It sounds very interesting!

    off topic, I have a 19.5 inch neck, somehow. Bosun’s mate work? Tuba in high school band? rock collecting? I dunno, never did weight training or any such. No one ever started a fight with me back when I visited low bars, though.

  294. 294.

    redshirt

    @Omnes Omnibus: As Adam said much earlier about watching Trump, occasionally reading right wing sites is important. To look directly into their private internet discussions is to reveal their real thoughts, hopes, and fears. You can’t get that at BJ.

    Yes, it’s horrific, but “know your enemy” are wise words.

  297. 297.

    SiubhanDuinne

    @Miss Bianca: Belushi’s wife was Judy Jacklin. Her sister Pam was a classmate and good friend of my sister. I knew them only vaguely, and was never much of a fan of Belushi-style humour so I didn’t pay much attention to his private life. Even so, I feel a little dense that I never connected the name. (And through the entire FB conversation that revealed all this, I also learned that my brother worked with Jim Belushi. The world, it is small.)

  301. 301.

    Omnes Omnibus

    @efgoldman: Oh, I have been called. I just will never get seated. One side or the other would toss me. Just like I would toss any lawyer I found in a jury pool.

  302. 302.

    redshirt

    @Omnes Omnibus: That’s a metaphor. This is unfortunately our real country, filled with seemingly crazy people. But they do evolve over time. Tracking that, being aware of their lies and delusions, is important.

  303. 303.

    Adam L Silverman

    @Miss Bianca: @Major Major Major Major: I don’t know how much of it there is or how widespread. But just at the firearms sites it quickly pops up in ever comment thread, even the one’s where the same commenters are discounting Black Lives Matter or that cops are racists. But check out the comments to Radley Balko’s publications on militarized policing at Reason or other places and you’ll also see a lot of animus in the comments.

    And when you put the 2nd Amendment and firearms stuff into play with it, then it gets ugly real fast. Who will be an oathkeeper and who will be a traitor and a “statist jackbooted thug”? What would be the signal to fight back and how long should/must one wait? Under what actual conditions? How much more tyranny must true Americans experience? Should the revolution only focus on the statist, tyrannical government or should it also go after the actual statists that support it and enable it? Will like minded patriots living in the slave states of NY or CA or Massachusetts or CT or MD or CO or Washington also rise up or will they have to be liberated from their chains.

    I think a lot of this is self aggrandizing, cathartic, hiding behind a nym venting. But there is a lot of it. And ignoring it would be folly. And those writing it don’t want common cause with anyone not in agreement with them. Black Lives Matter are terrorists. African American civil rights leaders are thugs or sell outs to the Democrats who are socialists and (liberal) fascists. The media are enabling this tyranny. The GOP is just as bad as the Democrats, but in different ways and the only reason they haven’t fully betrayed America is that the NRA or GOA hold their feet to the fire by scoring votes.

  304. 304.

    J R in WV

    @Miss Bianca:

    Oh Fuq! Be careful, and run before they tell you to! Nothing scares me like wildfire, fire in a compartment, no big deal, been trained, put it out. Fire in the wild, OMG, run…

  308. 308.

    FlyingToaster

    @Omnes Omnibus: Granted, they don’t seat lawyers. But you still have to go sit in the waiting room in court until all of the trials have seated any juries they’re going to use for the day.

    When I’ve been called, they always let the non-seated jurors leave between 1:30 and 2:30.

  312. 312.

    Adam L Silverman

    @J R in WV: And I don’t get a cent from any of that! Hell I own the copyright to my doctoral dissertation and saw that you could buy it on Amazon as a print from Michigan Microforms. And they don’t own the rights to it. But I don’t get a penny when they sell a copy.

    Is the email address you use to comment here a valid address?

  314. 314.

    Omnes Omnibus

    @FlyingToaster: The one time I got a notice, I was given a lottery number like the draft and told to call on sunday evening to see which range of numbers was being asked to come in. I didn’t make the cut. I would actually like to do it for professional reasons, but I know it won’t ever come to pass.

  317. 317.

    Adam L Silverman

    @redshirt: Its not know your enemy. Its important to see what a significant chunk of Americans think about their fellow Americans. Largely they think they’re the enemy because they don’t agree with them on everything. This is really what the President was trying to get at with part of his remarks today at the memorial service.

  319. 319.

    Adam L Silverman

    @Prescott Cactus: I have been very careful. I didn’t do anything much but sleep while I was on it. I did walk the dogs once or twice, only because I felt guilty and when I had a bit of umph back. I then waited five more days before going back to the gym.

  320. 320.

    dmsilev

    @Adam L Silverman:

    Hell I own the copyright to my doctoral dissertation and saw that you could buy it on Amazon as a print from Michigan Microforms. And they don’t own the rights to it. But I don’t get a penny when they sell a copy.

    They sent me a royalty statement for my dissertation, along with a check for $11. Which bounced for “non-sufficient funds”.

  322. 322.

    redshirt

    @Adam L Silverman: I don’t mean the police. I mean right wingers. There’s a core of them that are in fact enemies to the USA and all of the freedoms and liberties we hold dear. Their ideas (lies, propaganda) infect many, many more who then take up their mantle.

  325. 325.

    Adam L Silverman

    @Emma: Only when I need something I cant find and I email my friend who works there and ask if he can dig it out of the ether for me as a pdf!

  330. 330.

    Adam L Silverman

    @dmsilev: The one that gets me is my article on Just War, Jihad, and Terrorism. It was the first article on jihad published after 9-11 (sometimes its about being there…). Anyhow, it gets scanned and posted on the web:
    http://rel-321pogo-383national-affairs.ripon.groupfusion.net/modules/locker/files/get_group_file.phtml?fid=292786&gid=49243

    But what really pisses me off is that the publication agreement gives me partial copyright with Journal of Church and State. It has now been reprinted in three different edited volumes without my permission. The last time via Oxford University Press. The guy from OUP tracked me down, sent me an email, and I emailed him back saying I was willing to negotiate terms, but he did NOT have my permission to republish. He never responded and they went ahead and republished. Pisses me off!

  334. 334.

    Adam L Silverman

    @Omnes Omnibus: I didn’t know it was a competition. I thought we were just doing fun who we went to/who our relatives went to high school with.

  337. 337.

    Adam L Silverman

    @redshirt: Its the real scam behind publish or perish. You’re paid (partially) to do research and publish it. Then the publishing houses make a ton of money selling the journals and books and monographs and reference works back to the universities through their libraries in hard copy or via online archives. Basically the middle man is making a ton of money off of other’s work product.

  338. 338.

    Fair Economist

    @Eric U.:

    they should pay jurors.

    If jury duty paid 1 1/2 times minimum wage, it would really improve the jury pool. There would actually be *something* in this country where the working poor and unemployed had influence.

  339. 339.

    Emma

    @Adam L Silverman: They have an interest in oral histories, not all American. Your friend might be able to put you in touch with someone that could help you figure out what to do. Or at least point you to another scholar that shares your interest.

  340. 340.

    Omnes Omnibus

    @Adam L Silverman: Sometimes we don’t know it is competition until someone wins. We were all just dropping random knowledge and then, suddenly, you won. Life is weird.

  341. 341.

    Fair Economist

    @Adam L Silverman:

    The guy from OUP tracked me down, sent me an email, and I emailed him back saying I was willing to negotiate terms, but he did NOT have my permission to republish. He never responded and they went ahead and republished. Pisses me off!

    But god forbid *you* publish something from their journal, because they’ll sue you for copyright infringement.

  342. 342.

    redshirt

    @Adam L Silverman: I shudder to think what your rate of pay is based on royalties or publishing rights given the hours you spent working on the subjects.

    $0.01?

    Is this the right wing trying to kill education and thereby intellectuals? One of their main enemies, after all.

    PS I walked by a Koch funded child care research lab at MIT yesterday.

  343. 343.

    Elie

    @Miss Bianca:

    Girl, do not play around if that even seems like its getting closer. It is amazing how fast fire spreads — more like a liquid than you would think — and it also jumps.

    Please be careful..

    BTW — hello to everyone! Working full time now and not as much time to “commune” with my peeps here. I get to lurk a little but not much. Am enjoying my new job and working hard….Its great talking to a team again…

  347. 347.

    Adam L Silverman

    @redshirt: I completely agree. And while I think the Bundys and their fellow travelers are definitely extremists and bordering upon domestic terrorists, I tend to not think of my fellow citizens as enemies. If they were to start shooting at me, that position will be adjusted very quickly!

  352. 352.

    Soylent Green

    @Adam L Silverman: Speaking of Bundy updates, how about a review of Ryan’s earnest request that the prosecuting attorneys be locked in jail cells so as to put his self-defense on a level playing field? This one made my week.

  353. 353.

    Miss Bianca

    @Adam L Silverman: no, it sounds intriguing (no, really!), but I sent you a link to some bobcat kittens dismembering some dead things. Slightly less horrifying than clowns with really big guns.

  354. 354.

    Adam L Silverman

    @redshirt: Other than the small stipend/honorarium I was paid for doing a theoretical paper for the National Institute of Justice in 2002 conceptualizing and defining terrorism, I’ve never been paid any royalties or at all for anything I’ve published beyond my base salary, which at times has included the requirement that I do publish. I’ve only published articles, chapters in edited volumes, book reviews, and encyclopedia entries. If you want to count the over 40 cultural operations reports I’ve completed and submitted to various Army, Joint Force, DOD, and Interagency elements – I was paid to do all of that under my official duties as outlined in my orders.

  356. 356.

    Adam L Silverman

    @NotMax: That too. It means that while the corned beef and pastrami and some of the salami might be kosher and made right, the restaurant is not kosher, they serve pork and shellfish and mix milk and meat.

  357. 357.

    divF

    @Corner Stone: I was noticing that, too, although my conclusion was that he had someone who actually knew how to apply the artificial tanning base – unlike Trump.

  358. 358.

    Adam L Silverman

    @Matt McIrvin: I am about a 1/3 of the way through Coates article. I was actually agreeing with srv on this one. I fully expect there will be a very violent reaction at some point and its going to either be a come to (insert the religious figure of your choice here) moment, breaking the logjam and leading to long overdue reform or it’ll go the other way and lead to a crackdown and a reactionary response.

  359. 359.

    Adam L Silverman

    @Soylent Green: I have it. It was a busy start to my week. I’ll try to get it posted in the next day or so. I still haven’t gotten to the Chilcot Report!

  361. 361.

    Miss Bianca

    @Adam L Silverman:

    And when you put the 2nd Amendment and firearms stuff into play with it, then it gets ugly real fast. Who will be an oathkeeper and who will be a traitor and a “statist jackbooted thug”?

    This is what worries me, I confess. I don’t know if things really feel crazy enough to go there, yet, but all this hyperventilating about “jackbooted thugs coming to get our guns!” is so over-the-top, I’m starting to wonder if it’s going to have to become a self-fulfilling prophecy. At some point, there will be a serious attempt made to ban military-grade weaponry – not go house-to-house to confiscate, but serious penalties put in place for unauthorized ownership and use, buybacks or something – and some people are likely to run mad over it.

    @<a href="#comment-5896029">J R in WV: It’s still a number of miles from us – my town or anywhere really close – but I’ll be watching and listening. If an evacuation order comes, I don’t plan to be a hero – I’m going to scoop up the doggies and run!

  362. 362.

    NotMax

    @Adam L. Silverman

    Remember my grandfather, born and reared in a shtetl in what was then part of Austria-Hungary (later Poland, presently Ukraine) during the 19th century) eating shrimp fried rice for the first time and exclaiming in delight “If only Moses had been able to taste this!”

  363. 363.

    divF

    @Adam L Silverman: Actually, as a well-published academic, you have to pay them. About 20 years ago, I was taken aside by the editor-in-chief of a journal in my field, and told that, after publishing in said journal steadily for my entire career at that point, that it was about time that I gave back, and become an associate editor. For free, of course, except for the occasional catered meal at editorial board meetings.

  364. 364.

    Miss Bianca

    @Adam L Silverman: I wonder if “Michigan Microforms” is some rump form of UMI, or University Microfilms, where I used to work back in the day. They go their start photocopying rare manuscripts in the UM library, but I don’t know if they’re in the dissertation-flogging business. Sad work if they are.

  365. 365.

    Adam L Silverman

    @divF: I’m not even an academic and I do several peer reviews a year. And a requested book review every couple of years. There’s a few folks I know from when I was in academia that are now journal editors. When they get something within my specialty area they always ask if I can do a review because they want both my scholarly take and my evaluation as a practitioner. Its never been too onerous, so I don’t mind doing helping out.

    And I understand exactly what you’re talking about. Given how much the publishing houses that put out the journals make between the hard copy sales to libraries and the online access charges to the same libraries, you’d think they’d be able to pay the editorial staff and even offer small stipends/honorariums to folks that do multiple reviews for them a year.

  366. 366.

    Adam L Silverman

    @Miss Bianca: That’s them. Its still, technically UMI, but I always learned the shorthand as Michigan Microforms because of where they’re located – at UM.

  367. 367.

    Miss Bianca

    @Omnes Omnibus: I went to high school with Jeff Eugenides, the author of “Middlesex”. Not with Gilda Radner, tho’, she was a number of years ahead of me. Does that get me an entrance into the Celebrity Sweepstakes?

    ETA: Oh wait – Adam won already. Never mind! : )

  368. 368.

    Millard Filmore

    @dmsilev: “NEVER OPEN THE BOX.”

    You solved the puzzle and opened the box.
    That was the signal.
    You called us, and we came …

    … No more tears, that is a waste of good suffering.

    (from the movie Hellraiser)

  369. 369.

    Adam L Silverman

    @Miss Bianca: Did you put it in a link in a thread very late at night (eastern daylight time wise) and I didn’t see it till the thread was dead the next morning?

  370. 370.

    danielx

    @Miss Bianca:

    You would be surprised at the split in opinion in wingnut circles. Some are kneejerk supporters of law enforcement officers and will (always) find that the officer who just shot three unarmed people and bit the head off a live kitten should be excused, if not commended, because reasons. Others are suspicious of all law enforcement, local, state, federal makes no nevermind. Usually, if not always, because of reasons having to do with firearms – one way or another.

  374. 374.

    Miss Bianca

    @Adam L Silverman: They’re actually not – or at least, they may have started there, but they weren’t when I worked there – they were a part of Bell & Howell. Haven’t felt interested enough in them to look them up to see what happened to them after they laid off the entire newspaper indexing department, but I guess they must still be in business.

    @Elie: Thank you for your concern – I plan to play it safe, believe me! And I am so glad the new job is working out for you!

  375. 375.

    Miss Bianca

    @Adam L Silverman: um…no, honestly, I think Steeplejack did that. I remember making a note of it, haven’t quite steeled myself to watch it yet, but I will…or maybe you can give me the review…

    that could be the title of the BJ-authored and -directed film on the Bundy clan: Clowns With Guns. I’m thinking it’s sort of a Senecan horror comedy. With guns.

  377. 377.

    Adam L Silverman

    @Miss Bianca: That was earlier in this thread. Someone stuck one in an open overnight thread, last night I think. Don’t deny it! Vee havf vayz uf makeeng yuu towk!

  385. 385.

    Adam L Silverman

    @Millard Filmore: Give this a read:
    https://www.amazon.com/Well-Regulated-Militia-Founding-Fathers-Origins/dp/0195341031/ref=sr_1_5?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1468387444&sr=1-5&keywords=2nd+amendment+books

    I’m about a 1/3 through. I just finished Waldman’s:
    https://www.amazon.com/Second-Amendment-Biography-Michael-Waldman/dp/1476747458/ref=sr_1_1?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1468387444&sr=1-1&keywords=2nd+amendment+books
    which was also very good.

    And I have this to get through, also by Cornell:
    https://www.amazon.com/Second-Amendment-Trial-Critical-District/dp/1558499954/ref=sr_1_5?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1468387570&sr=1-5&keywords=saul+cornell

  387. 387.

    RadioOne

    I think Herman Cain will probably be Trump’s VP, because he was on Sean Hannity tonight.

  390. 390.

    Anne Laurie

    @Omnes Omnibus: There is a new-ish deli in Portsmouth, NH, which is less than an hour from here. The owners call it “authentic NY style”, but not kosher… they put bacon on their cheeseburgers.

    (But I’m a slut for chopped chicken liver, and look forward to eating there sometime real soon, when I can persuade the Spousal Unit it’s worth seeing a film at the Music Hall.)

  391. 391.

    Barb2

    @Gin & Tonic:

    Beatty has a wonderful local favorite – KC’s Outpost – right across from the Rebel Gas Station – on Rt 95.

    The place is always packed. Do not insult the food if you haven’t eaten at KC’s. Very little towns have local favorites.

    KC”s Outpost and Salon. No smoking at the eatery.

    We take Rt 95 as snowbirds running away from the weather in the Northwest. I really like Beatty – gateway to Death Valley.

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    Barb2

    I swear I am going to haunt Gin & Tonic – KC’s Outpost. When I go back to KC’s Outpost in the Fall, and that is where we will eat, I’ll eat one the best Roast Beef sandwiches. Then order another one for lunch. They also make pizza and much more. Best potato salad.

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    Barb2

    @redshirt:

    No Gin & Tonic keeps bad mouthing Beatty’s eating establishments. My favorite cafe on Rt 95 is in Beatty. He bad mouthed Beatty again. KC’s isn’t fancy just good food. Made fresh in the kitchen.

    Beatty is one of the only towns that escaped being one of NV’s ghost towns. The local museum has a book written by an Anthropologist – local boy made good.

    We learn something new about Beatty everytime we stop there for the night.

    KC’s does have BBQ. But I can’t eat that – allergy to tomatoes etc.

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    I'mNotSureWhoIWantToBeYet

    @Fair Economist: Around here jury duty pays $30/day:

    Will I be reimbursed for serving on Jury Duty?

    You will be reimbursed $30 for each day you must report to the courthouse. This amount is set by the state legislature and is considered reimbursement for your travel and other expenses.

    As usual, if one wants things like that changed, one has to elect sensible people. GOTV!!

    Cheers,
    Scott.

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    I'mNotSureWhoIWantToBeYet

    @Adam L Silverman:

    I’ve never been paid any royalties or at all for anything I’ve published beyond my base salary, which at times has included the requirement that I do publish.

    All federal government employees are in that boat. None of their work is protected by copyright in the US. (Doesn’t apply to contractors.)

    Wikipedia:

    A work of the United States government, as defined by the United States copyright law, is “a work prepared by an officer or employee” of the federal government “as part of that person’s official duties.”[1] In general, under section 105 of the Copyright Act,[2] such works are not entitled to domestic copyright protection under U.S. law and are therefore in the public domain.

    This act only applies to U.S. domestic copyright as that is the extent of U.S. federal law. The U.S. government asserts that it can still hold the copyright to those works in other countries.[3][4]

    Publication of an otherwise protected work by the U.S. government does not put that work in the public domain. For example, government publications may include works copyrighted by a contractor or grantee; copyrighted material assigned to the U.S. Government; or copyrighted information from other sources. [5]

    Journals are zealous about claiming copyright if the piece has multiple federal-government-employee authors and as little as one is not a federal employee.

    Some government employees can get royalties for their patented inventions, though.

    Ya gotta file more patents!! ;-)

    Seriously, I’ve never heard of anyone getting anything for journal articles. It’s not fair in many ways, but that’s just the way it is. Getting published is part of the price for gaining prestige, visibility, being promoted, etc. If you want to have a chance to make money on your writing, it has to be in the form of books. (Maybe that is slowly changing due to blogs, web ads, and the like.)

    [Edit to fix bad tag, which will probably put this in the dungeon. Sigh.]

    Cheers,
    Scott.

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    J R in WV

    @Adam L Silverman:

    Sure, it is, why not! I’m so barely nymized anyone who knows me would know me. I’m retired now, and I don’t care much anymore. The abstract was really fascinating. I always thought that people will always create a functional system to balance things between actors, families, businesses, etc.

    My Grandfather’s business was, like everyone, cash short when the banks were closed. Payroll, needed production material, no cash. So he learned that the big hotels on the railroad, where there were bars and gambling, were making bank for people. Handwritten contracts. So he had a trusted coworker go to the biggest casino and borrow enough money for the next 6 weeks of payroll and costs.

    Skinny Ellison was the guy, he was a machinist who operated the presses and other machines for making a newspaper, and then he was known to play cards and party at the hotel at Thurman… it’s name escapes me, but he had the contacts with the guys in charge. And I’m a little off track. I got to work for Skinny as a teen, he wasn’t so skinny then, but was still only about 4’9″ tall,

    But without federally chartered banks, legitimate businesses had to go somewhere else, and an underground economy sprang up in a couple of weeks. And if you didn’t pay them back as per your handwritten contract, they would come to see you, and you would either pay up or be hurt enough to convince everyone else to pay on schedule.

    This sounds just like the tribal courts in your abstract, is where I was going with this ramble through family history.

    If you need me or want anything, I check the email several times a day, when I’m around the computer. I do need to do tractor work, a further train of storms reguttered the driveway, so road grading is in order, and shop vac work. Wife has gone from old friend for dinner to at least 3 couples to join old friend, which is great… but the dishwasher is broken, and may or may not be replaced by Saturday. First world problems.

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    Adam L Silverman

    @I’mNotSureWhoIWantToBeYet: I never published anything peer reviewed while working for the government. The research and analysis I was doing as part of my duties, and the written deliverables that resulted, where not intended for peer review and to not compatible with peer review. When I was being partially paid to do research for publication it was as an academic, which I haven’t been in almost a decade.

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