"One of the reasons is party unity, I have to be honest," Trump says of his pick of Pence
— Jennifer Epstein (@jeneps) July 16, 2016
I know, I know — but what political fiend can resist such a rich smorgasbord? This morning’s big VP candidate rollout… Your 2016 Republican Party, America!
"And then Trump proceeded to talk about himself for 28 minutes." https://t.co/WgdpIWYqga
— Daniel Drezner (@dandrezner) July 16, 2016
“Mike Pence was my first choice.” (but not my final choice) – Donald Trump
— Bob Schooley (@Rschooley) July 16, 2016
Think Trump knows basically nothing about Pence except he's from Indiana.
— Greg Pinelo (@gregpinelo) July 16, 2016
Plenty of men have been humiliated & damaged by taking the veep slot. But can't think ever when it happened during the announcement itself.
— Josh Marshall (@joshtpm) July 16, 2016
Well that was an affront to everything everyone has learned about how to run a campaign ever
— Dan Pfeiffer (@danpfeiffer) July 16, 2016
This piece assessing Trump’s favorite topics today came via assignment editor @ryanlizza. https://t.co/hTiUCD4WrD pic.twitter.com/DeUy65DQ5F
— Philip Bump (@pbump) July 16, 2016
Much more, blow-by-blowhard, below the fold…
There's more sincere praise of Bobby Knight than Mike Pence in this Trump speech
— Josh Kraushaar (@HotlineJosh) July 16, 2016
And more praise of Trump than of Bobby Knight. Pence is 3rd fiddle at his own announcement. https://t.co/4C1eKZvWlx
— Joel Kasnetz (@kasnetz) July 16, 2016
It's easy to tell when Trump is going to start talking about Pence: He looks down at his prepared remarks.
— adam nagourney (@adamnagourney) July 16, 2016
Mocks Pence's endorsement of Cruz! "The single greatest non endorsement I've ever received."
— Dan Balz (@danbalz) July 16, 2016
"But enough about me. Now this guy, Mike Pence. Now back to me…"
— J.M. Berger (@intelwire) July 16, 2016
Hahaha, Pence thought he was going to get to speak.
— Dana Houle (@DanaHoule) July 16, 2016
Pence looking smarter and smarter for not going out with Trump at the start of this
— Sam Stein (@samsteinhp) July 16, 2016
So are Newt and Christie thinking: Thank God I'm not stalled offstage like Mike Pence is?
— Cathleen Decker (@cathleendecker) July 16, 2016
This was the argument for Newt — there was genuine chemistry between the two.
Clear there's nada w Pence. https://t.co/fqCCvxBQVQ— Josh Kraushaar (@HotlineJosh) July 16, 2016
Are these guys afraid of being seen together? where is Trump now?
— Sam Stein (@samsteinhp) July 16, 2016
Word cloud of this speech wouldn't have much "Mike" or "Pence."
— Ari Melber MSNBC (@AriMelber) July 16, 2016
Trump leaves the stage after taking 28 minutes talking about himself to introduce his pick, LIKE YOU DO. pic.twitter.com/mNXDdKIOeE
— Bob Schooley (@Rschooley) July 16, 2016
Hahaha, public radio in Chicago—which has an Indiana bureau & covers NW IN—gave up before Pence spoke, went back to Wait Wait, Don’t Tell Me
— Dana Houle (@DanaHoule) July 16, 2016
BREAKING: When Mike Pence said he was going to talk about himself and his family I switched off the TV.
— Daniel Drezner (@dandrezner) July 16, 2016
Keep talking, Mike. The FBI hostage-rescue team is triangulating your position.
— Charles P. Pierce (@ESQPolitics) July 16, 2016
Jane Goodall should do a documentary about this press conference.
— Nick Confessore (@nickconfessore) July 16, 2016
– Optics of Trump-Pence have been awkward.
– VP picks are mostly about optics.
– Optics don't matter much.
– VP picks don't matter much.— Nate Silver (@NateSilver538) July 16, 2016
Pence speech lets Republican establishment close eyes and pretend it's a normal ticket
— Rich Lowry (@RichLowry) July 16, 2016
Trump's steaks got a better rollout than Mike Pence. pic.twitter.com/3N1ZYWlBDm
— Brian Fallon (@brianefallon) July 16, 2016
Pence Not Likely to Matter Much https://t.co/tFVLlbYIWj
— Taegan Goddard (@politicalwire) July 16, 2016
I'd say that was the theme of Trump's speech https://t.co/aOU8cGhcpb
— Benjy Sarlin (@BenjySarlin) July 16, 2016
Thank you! #TrumpPence16 pic.twitter.com/RHprMCsGT6
— Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) July 16, 2016
Trump and Pence to appear on 60 Minutes https://t.co/Z4B1OSkk2c via @cbsnews
— David Rhodes (@davidgrayrhodes) July 16, 2016
If Pence is still VP pick tomorrow night. Never know with Trump. https://t.co/w1JFnaz6np
— Greg Pinelo (@gregpinelo) July 16, 2016
craigie
How long before Trump lights his own farts during a press conference?
debbie
I listened to Trump while running errands. It was like introducing Pence was an afterthought. Dan Quayle got more respect.
khead
I rooted for Jack at Augusta in ’86.
I really wanted Tom (at 59!) to close the deal at the Open in ’09.
So, yeah, I’m rooting for Phil to win the Open tomorrow. For old guys everywhere.
I also hope Phil managed to get a bet down somewhere back when Vegas had him at 40-1.
Major Major Major Major
Heh. Thanks. That brightened up a dreary afternoon.
The Dangerman
Someplace, Gingrich is breathing a huge sigh of relief; almost stepped in it.
NotMax
So Trump devalued Pence.
Venn diagrams of Indiana fundamentalists and KKK-curious have significant overlap.
Felonius Monk
Hi, I’m Donald Trump and this is my pet rock, Mike. Now, let me tell you a few words about myself.
rikyrah
These tweets are HILARIOUS!!!
The Thin Black Duke
“And when you gaze long into an abyss, the abyss also gazes into you.”
MJS
@The Dangerman: No, I think Gingrich believes he would have been in control of the ticket had he been picked. He thinks quite a bit of himself, for some unknown reason.
Baud
@The Thin Black Duke:
Modernized.
Schlemazel Khan
@khead:open what? That all gibberish
Splitting Image
Notwithstanding the poor quality of the rollout, I could see this actually being a high point for Mike Pence. I first heard about him years ago when Matt Yglesias repeatedly described him as “not very bright”. I have since come to think of him as the right-wing nutcase whose name I can never remember.
And I wonder how many people are confusing him with Mitch Daniels, the other Indiana governor who was so beloved of the No Labels crowd a few years back.
Schlemazel Khan
@The Thin Black Duke:
That’s a keeper!
Schlemazel Khan
@Splitting Image:
This is probably the high point of the moron’s career. Like Miller or Quayle or Palin this is as good as it will ever get for a nothing-burger nobody.
Kropadope
Feed the birds, Trumpence a bag…
RAM
Looks like they’re going to have to change it to 120 Minutes if Pence wants to get a word in edgewise.
hovercraft
An excerpt of Michael Ian Black’s new book:
Click for the illustrations.
?BillinGlendaleCA
@Schlemazel Khan:
So, in a few years we’ll see Mike Pence doing AMEX commercials saying “Do you know who I am?”
dmsilev
Do we know for sure that Pence will actually get a speech at the convention next week? I mean, couldn’t Trump decide he really needs to give two speeches himself, or maybe it’s a perfect opportunity to push units in that new Trump timeshare project.
hueyplong
@Splitting Image: Living hell. Just realized I was confusing Pence with Mitch Daniels. Daniels is the guy at Purdue. Pence is the guy doing the public submission and humiliation thing for Trump. Got it now.
Mary G
Well, it took the spotlight off Nice and Turkey. If it’d gone the usual way, it wouldn’t have gotten half the coverage. DT seems to think that even negative attention is better than no attention.
p.a.
Couple of brunettes in the photo. #TrumpAilesVettingFails
SiubhanDuinne
— Ezra Klein, Vox
And during one of those rare moments, Drumpf mentioned Indiana’s unemployment rate — 8.4% when Pence took office (January 2013), less than 5% in May 2016.
Two points: (a) those numbers pretty closely track the national UE rate. Some months are the same, some are a smidge lower, some a tad higher (at the two end points Trump mentioned, Indiana actually had a higher rate than the national average, ha ha ha); and (b) whenever Donald mentions jobs in his rallies, he makes a HUUUUUGE point of saying that the “real” unemployment rate is 42%, never mind that it’s a pants-on-fire exaggeration. Funny, when he was lauding Pence’s accomplishments as governor, he never mentioned Indiana’s “real” UE rate.
It’s a minor point that flew past in a matter of seconds, but once again I blinked at the utter shamelessness of the man.
Villago Delenda Est
At least the McCain/Palin veep rollout came across as well planned and professional. The crazy happened after the convention was over. This one is crazy before the convention even starts!
Mike in NC
We can all surmise that since Trump and Newt are such expert scam artists — both of them grifting for decades on multiple fronts — that they’d never be able to appear on the same stage together. Not enough oxygen in the room to sustain them both.
SiubhanDuinne
@Schlemazel Khan:
I believe he’s talking about golf. Not sure, though.
dmsilev
@efgoldman: Oh, he will for suitable amounts of money.
LanceThruster
Here comes the cakewalk.
Wait, what?
dmsilev
@Villago Delenda Est: In retrospect, Palin’s speech at the convention was the turning point. I mean, the trainwreck really got going once she actually started giving interviews, but the speech was where it all began.
Major Major Major Major
@LanceThruster: Huh
@dmsilev: Palin’s speech scared me. That was a very good rollout.
SiubhanDuinne
@hueyplong:
Yeah. And Trump actually said Daniels was “at Duke” (or maybe he said “a duke”) before correcting it to “Perdue.”
LOL.
ThresherK
@dmsilev: As I always said, if they could have announced her on Halloween rather than Labor Day.
Fascinating that her campaign was very similar to Dan Quayle’s “Witness protection program” appearances in ’88. Wonder if Pence needs to be protected that way, or if the press is so wobbly they can’t do the job of interviewing him.
cmorenc
We can laugh, but the grim joke is that Trump/Pence have a small, but not unrealistic chance of winning in November. And even though Clinton is much more likely to win than not, the margin may be nervously closer than it should be in a sane, well-informed country, where it would be a landslide blowout win for Clinton.
rikyrah
13 OF THE BLACKEST, MOST UNAPOLOGETICALLY WOKE NAMES TO USE AT STARBUCKS
You know the Black Lives Matter movement has reached critical mass when activists are ordering up their Starbucks with a double shot of woke. Some crafty coffee lovers use BLM as their name when ordering, in turn prompting baristas to yell “Black Lives Matter” aloud while serving drinks.
………………………..
To continue with the motion, we have devised 11 of the most unapologetically blackest names to use at Starbucks or any coffee shop.
1. “Baby Hair & Afros”
2. “Jumpman”
3. “Reparations”
Ruckus
@debbie:
Really, Dan Quayle deserved more respect. Not very much more for sure, but more.
Major Major Major Major
@BIG410: To be fair, Dick Cheney was very competent, when he put his mind to it.
Of course, he chose to use this power primarily for self-enrichment, rape/pillaging, torture, etc.
Omnes Omnibus
@Ruckus: Can Pence spell potato?
sdhays
@efgoldman:
No no no. To fit the pattern, he’ll have David Duke as his liaison to the African American community. Which is basically already true, even though Trump “doesn’t know who David Duke is or what white supremacy means”…
rikyrah
Black Women Are Reclaiming The ‘Loud’ Stereotype With A Powerful Hashtag
No, we won’t quiet down.
07/15/2016 03:56 pm 15:56:00
When Erica Garner walked into ABC News’ Presidential Townhall on race on Thursday, she expected to be productive. She expected to be respected. She expected to be heard.
Instead, she told The Huffington Post that she was “silenced” when there was no mention of her father, Eric Garner, or their family. She said ABC producers ignored her questions for President Barack Obama, which she says she was promised she could ask. She walked off set yelling that the network used her for ratings. She was eventually able to speak with Obama, but she was livid that she had to get loud to have her voice heard. She tweeted about her disappointment.
“It’s a shame as black people that we have to yell and become belligerent to have our voices heard,” she told HuffPost.
What Garner faced Thursday night is something that black women face all of their lives.
Too often, black women’s voices aren’t heard. It becomes frustrating to the point where we feel like we have to speak louder and louder until we’re screaming to be heard. Even when we’re yelling, people don’t hear us. They throw the “angry black woman” stereotype in our faces and tell us to quiet down.
More and more black women are rejecting the label that we are “angry” and “loud,” however.
After hearing about Garner’s situation, Feminista Jones tweeted that she could relate. She said the routine silencing of black women ― by non-black people, black men and ourselves ― builds up into rage, understandably given how much oppression we face.
She tweeted the hashtag #LoudBlackGirls to highlight why silencing black women is dangerous. Jones also called for black women to reclaim the terms “loud,” “ghetto” and “ratchet” and share how they find their voices.
rikyrah
Man Creates GoFundMe so Racists Can Send Him Back to Africa
Let’s see if people put their money where their racist mouths are.
BY: YESHA CALLAHAN
Posted: July 14, 2016
……………..
Larry Mitchell, of Indiana, created his GoFundMe page and is accepting money from racists so they can send him back to Africa.
“Send me ‘back’ to Africa fund … If you want me to go back to Africa I will gladly go … you can help make your dream and mine come true … accepting all donations … KKK, Skin Heads and anyone else with like mind thinking are welcome to donate … Thank you.. God bless you and America … #putyourmoneywhereyourhateis,” Mitchell states on the page.
So far he’s raised a little over $200, and people have left comments along with their donations. Someone named “fedup whiteguy” left $45 and told him, “You better not come back.” But there are other people who have applauded Mitchell.
Ruckus
@BIG410:
Yeah, I wouldn’t say anywhere near as far as apologizing, I was thinking of maybe, at the most, 1% better. Still, one inch up from the bottom of a 8 ft high barrel of shit is better.
Hadn’t thought about Quayle being the high point of republican VP picks for at least the last 35 yrs but I think you may be right. And that really is disgusting.
Baud
A Veep pick not mattering much? Way to out on a limb there.
TriassicSands
@debbie:
I was surprised at how much time Trump gave to Pence — more than the amount of time he spent running down HRC.
Pence needs a healthy ego to endure what he’s in for now. Trump’s praise is as empty and meaningless as his criticism. What Pence has to worry about most is simply being ignored.
As I wrote in another thread, Trump’s comments included what may be the only thing about which I’ve ever agreed with him. He referred to his “message” as “unbelievable.” Yep, it is truly unbelievable.
Ruckus
@Major Major Major Major:
Competent? I guess I misunderstood the job description.
BR
@rikyrah:
I’m waiting to see when the press will force Trump to answer questions about his birtherism. About the implicit racism of it, and about whether he thinks that if Obama isn’t a citizen then he should be deported, etc.
khead
@SiubhanDuinne:
Yeah, it’s golf. I didn’t have any cat pics ready earlier and I’m guessing there are at least a few fans of golf at BJ. Phil winning a major at my age would be a pretty big deal.
Ruckus
@Omnes Omnibus:
He should be able to, he is after all as smart as one.
SiubhanDuinne
Remember that list of RNC Convention speakers?
Know who’s not listed?
The fucking Republican Governor of the fucking host state, that’s who.
Mike in NC
@efgoldman: Also Walter Williams, the economics professor at GMU and Koch-funded columnist who constantly lectures black people about why they should hate big government and vote Republican.
germy
@rikyrah:
debbie
@SiubhanDuinne:
Kasich’s always been a sore loser.
Kropadope
@SiubhanDuinne: I’m pretty sure that Kasich is smart enough to stay away from that mess.
NotMax
@SiubhanDuinne
For which Kasich shall forever be grateful.
Schlemazel Khan
@?BillinGlendaleCA:
Assuming AmEx wants anything to do with the giant loser.
germy
@khead: “Now watch this drive!”
Baud
@germy: Was that supposed to be like the white courtesy phone?
debbie
@germy:
Cleveland is going to come out of this very bruised.
Schlemazel Khan
@SiubhanDuinne:
Is Tiger still playing?
rikyrah
How Marginalized Families Are Pushed Out of PTAs
Parents with socioeconomic resources are more likely to exert influence on school officials.
When Rolling Terrace Elementary School in Takoma Park, Maryland, told parents in the fall of 2014 that it would allow students to use Chromebooks as a way to bridge the digital divide between low-income families and affluent families, there were mixed reactions. The plan was aimed at helping students become more adept at using technology, but the affluent parents, most of whom were white, were apprehensive about their children getting more screen time.
Alison Risso, then the president of the school’s PTA, said she was frustrated by the complaints those parents expressed at a meeting. “Everyone who could pay for that Chromebook with the money in their pockets was in the room,” Risso said. As Risso recalled, one parent said to her, “I don’t need my daughter to learn to make a PowerPoint.”
At Rolling Terrace, 68 percent of the students receive free or reduced-price lunch. Sixty-three percent of its population is Hispanic, 15 percent is black, and another 15 percent is white. But the parents of that sliver of the student population that is white and affluent—most of whom were drawn to the school’s Spanish-immersion program—have outsize influence over what happens in the school.
Risso explained to parents why it was important for the lower-income children to have access to the Chromebooks. Many of the school’s parents—mostly low-income people of color who didn’t attend the PTA meeting—were excited about the computers.
Despite the differences in priorities, the school’s parents are expected to make decisions as a community. That kind of unity rarely happens in gentrifying neighborhoods, however. When white, affluent parents come into a school that has a high percentage of less-affluent students of color, the more advantaged group tends to take over parent organizations and unintentionally marginalize the parent community that was already there. Ultimately, Rolling Terrace proceeded with its plan to use Chromebooks, but not all such issues are resolved in ways that give low-income parents a voice.
That’s unfortunate because parental engagement can greatly improve adolescents’ academic and emotional functioning, according to a 2014 study published in Child Development. A substantial body of research also indicates that parent involvement at home and school is an important factor in improving young children’s literacy and math skills. PTA membership was also associated with student achievement in a 2006 School Community Journal study authored by researchers at the University of West Florida.
germy
@Baud: Not sure why the signs went up, but they’re scrambling to take them down now. Bad optics, doncha know
Omnes Omnibus
@Baud: More like the white zone for immediate loading and unloading of passengers only.*
*I apologize for bringing abortion into it.
germy
Trump is a bad influence on some white people. There’s a lady who lives about two doors down from us. Black lady in her late 60s, maybe older. Loves to garden. Beautiful flowers in front of her house. Today I was on my porch, heard a jaunty “Beep Beep Beep Beep!” (you know those short little car horn beeps when someone is trying to be funny). I saw a car drive by with two white people in the car. They saw her in front of her house caring for her flowers and decided to honk at her for yuks. She look startled and irritated.
germy
@efgoldman: Didn’t he write a book about the potatoe famine?
I remember the vice-presidential debate, Quayle vs. Gore.
At one point Quayle warned the audience that Gore had written a book calling for the elimination of the internal combustion engine! He said it like he was expecting a horrified gasp from the audience.
Doug R
Speaking of cartoons, Bojack Horseman season 3 arrives July 22
sdhays
@germy:
When the dog-whistle becomes simply a whistle…
What is the non-racist explanation that they’re going to come up with for “why the signs were posted”? Confused concern that color-blind people might not know that these elevators were painted white? Different banks of elevators are named after the surnames of virtually unknown low-level Republican functionaries, and this bank of elevators was named after a guy named “White”? Who is actually African American, no doubt.
jl
I still think Trump has little use for the social conservatism that Pence is devoted too. Trump consciously spouted a lot of BS during the primaries, and most of it was wrt to weird stuff Pence believes to be important. Trump will have a very hard time faking interest in stuff that is important to people who think Pence is important.
Which is same is what I typed yesterday. Except I want to clarify that I think Trump means every word of the racial and ethnic bigotry he spouts, even on the rare occasions that Trump doesn’t understand that he is spouting bigotry, but it is there deep in the marrow of his bones.
germy
@sdhays: They’ve traded their whistles for air horns.
eclare
@SiubhanDuinne: Hadn’t occurred to me til you wrote it, hmmm, I wonder how much of that is that Christie put Ivanka’s father in law in prison. Also, based on the speech Christie gave in 2012, would you let him speak? But that assumes Trump has some grasp of reality, and as they say, assumes facts not in evidence.
Omnes Omnibus
@efgoldman: Ahem…
Doug R
@germy: Lots of hospitals have color themes on the floor to get you around. Picking white as one of the colors is totally tone deaf. Unless they are the master elevators-because all colors together is white. Maybe they should change the sign to Master Elevators….uh wait….
Mike J
@sdhays: My guess would be a Red bank, a white bank, and a blue bank of elevators.
rikyrah
Why highways have become the center of civil rights protest
By Emily Badger
July 13
After activists protesting the death of Philando Castile left the governor’s mansion in St. Paul, Minn., on Saturday night, they marched through the city down Lexington Parkway and then onto the highway, across all eight lanes of traffic. There, some of them sat down, a provocative gesture of civil disobedience in the face of rushing commerce.
They were occupying a highway that, a half-century ago, was constructed at the expense of St. Paul’s historically black community. Interstate 94, like urban highways throughout the country, was built by erasing what had been black homes, dispersing their residents, severing their neighborhoods and separating them from whites who would pass through at high speed.
That history lends highways a dual significance as activists in many cities rally against unequal treatment of blacks: As scenes of protest, they are part of the oppression — if also the most disruptive places to call attention to it.
“If you can find a way to jam up a highway — literally have the city have a heart attack, blocking an artery — it causes people to stand up and pay attention,” said Nathan Connolly, a historian at Johns Hopkins University. “Highways still perform their historic role from a half-century ago. They help people move very easily across these elaborately segregated landscapes.”
Block a highway, and you upend the economic life of a city, as well as the spatial logic that has long allowed people to pass through them without encountering their poverty or problems. Block a highway, and you command a lot more attention than would a rally outside a church or city hall — from traffic helicopters, immobile commuters, alarmed officials.
“We’re the home of Dr. Martin Luther King,” anxious Atlanta Mayor Kasim Reed said on Saturday, acknowledging the city’s legacy of protest but drawing a line at the interstate on-ramp. “The only thing I ask is that they not take the freeways. Dr. King would never take a freeway.”
That is not strictly accurate: King led the 1965 march that iconically occupied the full width of the Edmund Pettus Bridge in Selma, Ala. But as protests in Atlanta approached the high-speed artery that courses through the city’s downtown, Reed understood that the stakes were much higher, both for the safety of the protesters and the functioning of the region.
sacrablue
Look at that bizarre Trump/Pence family photo. The Pence women are standing like normal humans having their photo taken. All of the Trump women strangely posed legs and matching long blonde hair. Stepford Wives?
Arclite
I think that’s a band: “Trumppence none the richer.”
germy
@efgoldman: Here are the elevator signs in question. They have the red white & blue flag logo on them. Nobody seems to know (or want to admit) where they came from.
The Lodger
@Schlemazel Khan: Hey,don’t be dissin Stephanie Miller’s dad. IIRC he also got an American Express ad out of the experience.
burnspbesq
@SiubhanDuinne:
Duke is, in fact, in the market for a new President; Richard Brodhead is retiring next year. Daniels will not be considered.
SiubhanDuinne
@Schlemazel Khan:
Dunno, I quit paying attention when Sam Snead retired.
The Lodger
@sdhays: Sure he does. David Duke founded the university run by Mike Pence, I mean Charlie, er, Godfrey Daniels, ah, fuck it.
drdavechemist
@efgoldman: Hey efg, do you remember when here in RI, thanks to an unfortunate superposition of a goofy nickname with a (presumably) married surname who wanted to be a benefactress, we were blessed with the “Happy White Family Concert Series” at the RI Philharmonic? Can’t believe that nobody saw a problem with that!
Schlemazel Khan
@rikyrah:
The street name was “Rondo” my family lived not far from there & we used to deliver extra food to a retirement home that used to exist just off Rondo. Yeah, the highway was seen as an urban renewal project It was a way to eliminate a lot of poor housing, the problem was they didn’t replace any of it. Rondo was the heart of a viable black neighborhood but it was ripped out
jl
@sacrablue: They all, the men and the women live in ‘MREAM’ (Marketing Rules Everything Around Me) world. Hot babes are expected to market, their men expect it, and they do it automatically. If not for cash, then for status and attention. I think that explains some (but not all) of the reported ‘creepiness’ of the male Trump comments on their female kin. Their minds automatically zero in on the marketing of sex appeal and beauty, for whatever of any value it can get at the moment.
philadelphialawyer
@sdhays: I’m pretty sure that there actually IS a non racist reason for the “white elevator” thing. Like, the “white elevators” are those located at such and such location and will take you from x floor to y floor and so on, while the “red elevators” and the “blue elevators” are those located somewhere else, and operate between different floors, etc. There is a local hospital here that has various color paths on the floor, because the place is so labyrthian that you need some kind of marker to find your way to the coronary section, the maternity ward, etc. But that hardly means that only “white” people are allowed to follow the white path, only “yellow” people the yellow one, and so on. I think it very unlikely that, in 2016, a building in Cleveland, or even in the South, would openly have real, honest to God, straight up racist apartheied, Jim Crow “white” and “colored” elevators
SiubhanDuinne
@debbie:
Could be. Or could be, Trump’s a sore winner.
NonyNony
@sdhays: I won’t be surprised to find out that there are 3 banks of elevators and they named them red, white, and blue because Republicans are all about the fake patriotism via symbols like that. That no one was around to explain to the that “white elevators” sounds really bad – especially given their nominee – goes a long way toward explaining the nominee…
rikyrah
María Agramón @eclecticism 8h8 hours ago
Black people all over NC woke up to KKK flyers on their property. But Black Lives Matter is the problem. Ok.
SiubhanDuinne
@eclare:
But nothing to do with Christie. John Kasich is Governor of Ohio, and his name does not appear on the announced speaker list.
Omnes Omnibus
@SiubhanDuinne: I think that Kasich has found important shit that needs in Columbus at that time. Visit the zoo, grab a burger at Thurman’s, scrape barnacles off of the Santa Maria – you know, important stuff. He falls on the evil side of the stupid/evil axis.
sacrablue
@jl: Yeah, I realize that they are treating as a sales tool for “the Trump Organization” but as a typical suburban women voter, I just got creeped out by the overall effect of the skinny blondes bitches with over-emphasized legs and designer shoes.
debbie
@Omnes Omnibus:
He might even be willing to throw himself under his own bus.
debbie
@sacrablue:
The Pences look very small in that photo.
Bill Arnold
Followers of the armscontrolwonk website may be amused to see that they made page 3 of the NY Times (2016/07/16 in paper edition) re MA 17 downed over Eastern Ukraine: Russian Images of Malaysia Airlines Flight 17 Were Altered, Report Finds
The ACW article is MH17 Anniversary
New frontiers in non-governmental intelligence; I’ve seen them do other interesting photo-analysis in the past, and it’s only getting better.
Omnes Omnibus
@debbie: If push came to shove, I am sure he would do it.
@debbie: The Trumps are also very small people – in a different way.
Villago Delenda Est
@germy: Air raid sirens.
Jeffro
@Splitting Image:
Some nitwit someplace – I think it was Chris Czillia of the WaPo – noted how this is Pence’s best week ever. If Trump loses, Pence is supposedly “the standard-bearer in 2020, where he might win 8 years in the Oval Office”. If Trump loses, Pence delays those plans by 4 more years and rolls to victory in 2024.
Ye gods. The thought that a clod like Pence could get elected to national office – ESPECIALLY now with Trump-taint all over him – it boggles the mind.
Old Broad in California
As a baseball fan I would have been more entertained if it had been Hunter Pence on the ticket.
THIS Pence wanted to make it illegal to have an abortion because of fetal abnormalities. Forcing a woman to give birth to a baby with a terminal illness, who she might be financially unable to care for.
p.a.
@drdavechemist: Tolstoy: “all Happy White families are alike…”
Jeffro
@SiubhanDuinne:
Yup. As has been pointed out endlessly – since the media is not pointing it out at all – if this were the Dems, we’d see nothing but HOST GOV NOT IN ATTENDANCE or PREV DEM PREZS, NOMINEES SKIPPING CONVENTION.
The TrumpVention (as with all things Trump) is so far out of the norm, it’s almost like they’re paralyzed. So many things are wrong, where to begin the news coverage?!?
(hint to the media: it doesn’t matter what you cover, just START SOMEPLACE and do your jobs!)
SiubhanDuinne
@Omnes Omnibus:
I hold no brief for Kasich as a politician (or a person, for that matter) but it strikes me as the height of petty arrogance and arrogant pettiness for the Trump/RNC folks to overlook the governor of the state that’s hosting the convention. Maybe they have him giving a welcome or something during daytime hours — I think the preliminary schedule we saw was only for prime time — but IMO he should have a prominent and well-publicised role by virtue of his position as governor (whatever his shortcomings as a politician).
amk
@khead: phil, the teabagger?
The Lodger
@debbie: Because they’re all halfPence.
Jeffro
@SiubhanDuinne: I don’t think they overlooked him, I think he declined to appear at this mess. Maybe he’s out mowing his lawn just like Jeff Flake
Omnes Omnibus
@SiubhanDuinne: No, I am suggesting that Kasich has joined the ever growing group of people with excuses not to go. Besides, a Thurmanator takes a long time to eat.
debbie
@SiubhanDuinne:
He’s refused to support or endorse Trump, which I’m sure Trump will never forget or forgive.
amk
@SiubhanDuinne: love it. I want more and more pissed off rethug “establishment”.
joes527
@sdhays: just a guess, but I’d look to see if there are red and blue elevators too.
Still horrible judgement (or as the Trump campaign likes to call it: Tuesday)
Omnes Omnibus
@debbie: If that is the case, Trump can’t have him as a speaker. Just like we were saying about Bernie a couple of weeks ago.
Feebog
@debbie:
And where is the rest of the Trump family? Looks like some of them slept through the alarm.
eclare
@SiubhanDuinne: Yes, it’s been a long day…reread your comment and tried to take it away before anyone saw!
Also there is an article in the NYTimes today about Trump’s pattern of gleefully humiliating people, as you noted before about the roll-out of Pence.
Major Major Major Major
Oh god, this conference dinner is turning into an awards ceremony.
When will I learn, there’s no such thing as free shrimp!
Jeffro
So hey a WV GOP House of Delegates members thinks HRC should be hung on the National Mall, you know, for her email transgressions. He put it up on FB and everything and is not backing down. (His last name is Folk, I believe)
As I told my RW Dad yesterday, I’ll be glad to meet in the middle once y’all acknowledge that your side has folks calling for hangings…our side is asking for crazy stuff like free college.
Anne Laurie
@Omnes Omnibus:
One night while the RNC convention is in session, KasIch will be speaking to the NAACP in Cleveland. So will Hillary.
They offered Trump a spot, but his spokespersons said he was too busy.
debbie
@Omnes Omnibus:
Apparently he’s decided to address the NAACP instead of the GOP. He’d never have done this in happier circumstances.
Omnes Omnibus
@Anne Laurie: @debbie: Holy Fuck.
jl
@sacrablue: in the context of the Trumps living in a 100 percent ‘MREAN’ world, it is creepy. I don’t think Trump is so completely sexist that he can only see women in the context of ‘MREAM’ world. I believe the women who say that Trump gave them unusual chances and treated them based on their merit in his real estate, or marketing business. But then, that is business and management, and the women were working away in his offices, not on public display as personal consorts of one type or another and therefore helping with the Trump brand. I’d bet that in his personal life, his relationship with women is ‘MREAM’ to a creeptatic degree.
Creepy because the Trump brand is very very personal, as well as business.
amk
@Anne Laurie: Good for him to sticking to his stand that donnie dreck is a pos.
Jeffro
Btw my Twitter feed has an amazing “44 & 45” post from HRC’s campaign up and running…again, when in modern American political history has a party and the outgoing/incoming Prez/heir been this aligned and on-message?!?
NotMax
125 posts and nobody mentioned that Pence will be pounding the campaign trail shilling for Trump?
Sad. ;)
NotMax
Ohio’s “Joe the Plumber” must feel slighted as his name is nowhere on the program list.
SiubhanDuinne
@NotMax:
Well done. Here’s your crown.
£/s/d
JGabriel
debbie:
Arguably, Dan Quayle deserved more respect than Pence.
After all, at least Quayle was never stupid enough to hitch his future to Trump’s id.
SiubhanDuinne
@eclare:
FYWP would never allow such a thing.
jl
@NotMax:
” 125 posts and nobody mentioned that Pence will be pounding the campaign trail shilling for Trump?
Sad. ;) ”
Well, hell, The Trump Himself doesn’t seem to think it is that big a deal. Why should we?
dmsilev
@Jeffro: It’s pretty damn unusual. Looking at 2-term Presidents and their potential successors:
* Bush was radioactive by mid/late 2008, and John McCain did what little he could to pretend that Bush didn’t exist.
* Gore famously and foolishly distanced himself from Clinton in 2000.
* Reagan was in …dubious health in 1988; I’m not sure if he did any real campaigning for GHW Bush or whether it was just some pro forma efforts.
* Ike hated Nixon, and did little or nothing to help his campaign.
I don’t know enough about the nitty-gritty of the pre-WWII campaigns to comment usefully on those. But, we’re going back 80 or 90 years at a minimum before finding an example.
jl
Forgot to say. I also will buy every new book with ‘Another Adam Silverman thriller!” slapped on the cover. As long as they are not insanely long (like most of those things are). Keep ’em under 300 pages and I’m all in.
Omnes Omnibus
@SiubhanDuinne: You’ve made him sovereign?
eclare
@Jeffro: Hillary has learned alot from 2000 and 2008. I have been very impressed with the way the campaign has been run, and I definitely see that as a sign of how she would function as president.
SiubhanDuinne
@Jeffro:
Could be. But I also heard (sorry, cannot recall source) that the Trump people have assigned the Ohio delegation undesirable back-of-the-room seating. That makes it sound deliberate on the part of the Trumpistas, and it speaks volumes about how they would govern if, God forfend, they ever got the chance.
Major Major Major Major
@jl: “Professor Feuerstein’s mission is complete, but he’ll return in THE SCOTSMAN WITH HALF AN AXE! Summer 2017”
amk
Is the site acting weird today? It take many refreshes just to freaking see the page.
eclare
@SiubhanDuinne: Nor hell a fury like a *Trump* scorned…
SiubhanDuinne
@Omnes Omnibus:
Of course not. We don’t allow no damn floriners.
Jeffro
@dmsilev: I know…it’s amazing in the historical context…in this campaign, it just makes the contrast that much more clear for reporters and pundits willing to note it.
We have one party on an unprecedented ‘roll’ (unemployment down, healthcare coverage up, troops home, and so on) and the torch clearly being passed…on the other side, we have one party on the verge of a history-making crack up, fraying at every possible edge.
Jeffro
@eclare:
She had a ‘growth mindset’ before growth mindsets were cool, lol. No, true, she has learned and does learn along the way…and it stretches down into her campaign, that much is obvious. I’m totally comfortable with her as Prez for the next 8 years. It’s a shame she’s been slammed with GOP propaganda for the past 30+ years…if you took her name off everything and put her resume and policy positions out to American voters, she’d be an unbelievable shoo-in. I’ll settle for a regular shoo-in ;)
Omnes Omnibus
@SiubhanDuinne: Mark my words, your yen for continuing this will lead to [t]rouble
SiubhanDuinne
@Omnes Omnibus:
Well, you are nothing if not franc.
Scott Alloway
@?BillinGlendaleCA: Old enough to remember that ad. And I was at that Republican convention when he was nominated. My parents failed to convert all four of us kids,
Jeffro
@SiubhanDuinne: I think that (the back-of-the-room seating) is just payback to Ohio and Kaisch…even in Trump’s lizard brain, he has to know Kaisch was and is the biggest threat to Trump’s candidacy. And in Trump’s world, he meets that challenge by…acting as petty as possible.
Folks who thrive on subtlety, whether domestic or foreign, would eat this clown for lunch. Fortunately, we’re all going to GOTV in November and deal the Trump GOP a loss so profound that they actually rethink doubling down on conserva…lol…ok, I couldn’t actually finish that sentence. Let’s just deal them the loss and let them learn from it what they may!
SiubhanDuinne
@Jeffro:
Yes, you’re right. GOTV is deathly serious, and I expect most of us BJ denizens will do our part. But in the meantime, it’s all just such an obvious parade of Pure Fail that I can’t help pointing and laughing.
The Golux
@hovercraft:
What I’m trying to figure out is how all the correct uses of “its” in the original got replaced by the incorrect “it’s” in your comment.
And don’t get me started on the signs in the produce section at your local supermarket…
[/grammar pedant]
Omnes Omnibus
@SiubhanDuinne: Pax, I pray thee. I yield.
Omnes Omnibus
@shomi: Shut the fuck up, you useless shitgobbling fartknocker.
eclare
@Jeffro: Unlike a depressingly high percentage of this country, I like people who learn along the way. Will do whatever it takes to GOTV in November. I’m in a red state, but I want her to go in with the biggest possible popular vote mandate evah!
cokane
Nate Silver is right though, way too much ink spilled about VP picks. I also don’t understand all the stories speculating on this shit before it happens. Getting leaked info is one thing, but damn, why is so much news nowadays writing about shit that has not happened?
SiubhanDuinne
@Omnes Omnibus:
@Omnes Omnibus:
Gotta tell you, Omnes, I am in total awe and amazement that those two consecutive comments came from the same pen. You are nothing if not versatile. And you know your audience.
Omnes Omnibus
@SiubhanDuinne: I really try to avoid middle-brow.
SiubhanDuinne
@The Golux:
I wondered the same thing (about all the apostrophe’s). That was very odd.
SiubhanDuinne
@Omnes Omnibus:
So far, so good.
Omnes Omnibus
@efgoldman: I can’t really grow a beard – even a goatee.
Ohio Mom
@Anne Laurie: The NAACP is meeting in Cincinnati, not Cleveland. Cleveland is in the state’s northeast corner, Cincinnati is in the southwest corner.
SiubhanDuinne
@efgoldman:
I am sure of nothing, all in all.
Omnes Omnibus
@SiubhanDuinne: I can promise that I was a single birth. Voices in my head? I’ll leave to you.
Steve in the ATL
@Omnes Omnibus: Was that a Bob Mould reference?
Omnes Omnibus
@Steve in the ATL: Not intentionally.
NotMax
Fail-Safe coming up on TCM in about 5 minutes.
Betsy
@Omnes Omnibus: @NotMax: @SiubhanDuinne: Pence should watch out, he could just be Trump’s guinea pig.
Omnes Omnibus
@Betsy: I hate you.
NotMax
@Betsy
That’s taking it pretty farthing.
Omnes Omnibus
@NotMax: I hate you too.
workworkwork
@The Lodger: Plus he was one of the prosecutors at the Nuremberg trials.
NotMax
@Omnes Omnibus
To coin a phrase….
Fair Economist
@dmsilev:
Going back before that: Truman was unpopular after his terms, Coolidge famously avoided campaigning, and Wilson was incapacitated. So the last time a President publicly and actively supported his successor was Teddy Roosevelt supporting Taft in 1908.
M. Bouffant
@Scott Alloway: I was there too. Drank the Flavor-Aid for a couple more yrs., however
Ian
I had to google Bobby Knight. Good basketball coach apparently.
WHAT FUCKING RELEVANCE DOES A FUCKING BASKETBALL COACH HAVE TO WHO RUNS THE EXECUTIVE BRANCH.
We need to keep these people as far, far, far, far, away from power as possible.
Cleos
@The Thin Black Duke:
In this case, the abyss may very well be laughing its ass off. ;-)
Cleos
@Mike in NC: @Baud:
Several years back, when I worked at a Living History museum, someone put up what was intended to be a helpful sign on the building that housed the dressing room and commissary. It was one of the historical buildings but had been modernized on the inside and was white clapboard. Needless to say, the building was for staff only; for the public it was an outside display.
If the sign had been written as White “Staff Only” Building it would have been okay. No such luck: it read:
White Staff Only Building.
Needless to say, it was replaced rather early in the day.