The Rodney King beating, the OJ trial and "Friends" were "racially divisive." The Trump campaign is just plain old racist!
— Jamelle Bouie (@jbouie) July 17, 2016
The Grey Lady goes… as close to there as its recurrent fulminating BothSides fever will permit (and no sooner than time):
… [A]mid gloom about Republican prospects in November, Mr. Trump may have endangered the party in a more lasting way: by forging a coalition of white voters driven primarily by themes of hard-right nationalism and cultural identity.
Republicans have wrestled for years with the push and pull of seeking to win over new groups of voters while tending to their overwhelmingly white and conservative base. Now, Mr. Trump’s candidacy may force them into making a fateful choice: whether to fully embrace the Trump model and become, effectively, a party of white identity politics, or to pursue a broader political coalition by repudiating Mr. Trump’s ideas — and many of the voters he has gathered behind his campaign.…
In order to build a winning party again, some Republican leaders say, the party will have to disavow Mr. Trump’s exclusionary message, even at the price of driving away voters at the core of the Republican base — perhaps a third or more of the party.
This approach would amount to a highly risky lurch away from the faction that made Mr. Trump the Republican nominee, and toward a community of female, Latino and Asian voters who have never been reliable Republicans. Should the effort falter, and Republicans fail to win a second look from these Democratic-leaning groups, they could find themselves stranded with virtually no base at all.
If they are divided over the proper course forward, Republican leaders agree that a wrenching struggle is coming.
House Speaker Paul D. Ryan predicted that the aftermath of the election would bring “a fight for the soul of our party,” and said Republicans would have to reject the politics of racial resentment, which he called “a loser.”
“Our job is not to preach to a shrinking choir; it’s to win converts,” said Mr. Ryan, who has endorsed Mr. Trump but criticizes his pronouncements with regularity…
The appeal of a Trump-like message may go beyond even the share of primary voters that Mr. Trump captured: Exit polls found solid majorities of Republican primary voters supportive of his pledge to block Muslims from entering the country. In the general election, polls show most voters oppose that plan…
Mr. Trump’s approach is an alluring path to prominence on the right: Already, a handful of up-and-coming Republicans from the party’s conservative wing have moved to court his core voters. Some have argued his message could be more potent in the hands of a less flawed messenger.
Mr. Pence, who sharply criticized some of Mr. Trump’s proposals in the Republican primary race, campaigned hard to join his ticket in the general election.
Senator Tom Cotton of Arkansas, a first-term lawmaker who has taken steps toward a future presidential race, argued that the party should be prepared to go further than Mr. Trump and propose new restrictions on even legal immigration…
Speaking of Speaker Ryan:
There's something about this photo, I can't quite place it… pic.twitter.com/ZahcIHHTva
— Igor Bobic (@igorbobic) July 17, 2016
Barb2
Up Up With Jesus rehearsal
MattF
There’s a good chance that the Trump Party will end up replacing the Republicans. In the Trump Party, everyone eats Trump steaks, drinks Trump wine, has a scholarship to Trump University– and it’s all government subsidized!
schrodinger's cat
With Trump, GOP’s transformation to the White Christian Party is complete.
lamh36
the fact that you have GOP/RWNJ apologist playing “Where is Waldo” to try to prove the Ryan intern photos isn’t as white as a sheet it ridiculously absurd.
rikyrah
BWA HA HA HA HA HA HA..
‘there’s something about this photo..’
Emma
Oy gevalt, that photo!
Peale
Oh come now, I can spot one gentleman of african american descent and he’s right behind the woman of indeterminate ancestry.
rikyrah
Harold
@OKCliberal
Man shoots off his own penis taking selfies with gun
chopper
man that pic has more white bread than a Wonder factory.
Mingobat f/k/a Karen in GA
Like, maybe, every other Republican for the past 50 years? (Off to read the article to see if it mentions the Southern Strategy at all, or if it provides absolutely no context for the white nationalist mess that Republicans for some reason appear to be stuck with.)
scav
I’m sure that photo and record will rank among the very top accomplishments of Ryan’s career, might even place if we limit it to his actions with the fewest negative consequences. And I’m sure it was a bright spot of interest in all their days with so little of consequence to do because of the serene calm tenor of current national scene.
Kathleen
“There’s something about this photo, I can’t quite place it..”
Blinded By The White.
dmsilev
@schrodinger’s cat: Did you see the state polls from a few days ago showing Trump with 0% of the black vote?
Somehow, he’ll manage to hit negative percentages by the end of this campaign.
gogol's wife
@chopper:
lol
cmorenc
@Peale:
I found the one black person in the photo, but I had to look long and hard for him before spotting him – roughly seven rows of faces back, in the right rear of the picture, and only a couple of rows in front of the back wall of the room (hint: look just to the right of the right rear set of brown doors in the room).
Mary G
We’re the POCs required to sit in the back of this photograph? Speaker Ryan you should be be ashamed of yourself. It also looks like there aren’t 50/50 representation of female/male interns, with a majority of the the females in the front.
p.a.
Minorities? Hell I’m not sure anyone in that photo went to a public university north of South Carolina.
gogol's wife
@cmorenc:
It’s like that National Lampoon high school yearbook parody.
Hal
um, Antonio Sabato Jr. is speaking at the convention. Trump is no racist?
Jim, Foolish Literalist
Paul Ryan:
Hungry Joe
So Ryan says that if GOP gets shellacked in November it’ll have to reject the politics of racial resentment “because it’s a loser.” Not because it’s WRONG, but because it doesn’t work anymore.
That’s if they lose. I guess if they win, it’s carry on as before — maybe even crank it up a notch or two. So don’t stuff those white sheets in the back of the linen closet just yet.
gogol's wife
@Hal:
Yeah, you are exited. Exited stage left.
MattF
@dmsilev: I guess that if you go negative, you’re borrowing percents from some percent reservoir. Which would violate the -1th law of Thermodynamics, IMO.
Brachiator
Has anyone ever investigated how the GOP continues to have loyalists among the Log Cabin Republicans despite the party’s noxious homophobic agenda?
With respect to other groups, the GOP could claim that their “mainstream family values” were assimilationist. So, a Nikki Hailey could be Republican as long as she became Christian and embraced the right values.
But Trump has attracted the scum who are openly racist and want a country in which white America comes first. They expect Trump to deliver, and don’t give a shit about less obvious dog whistles. Like the homophobes, they want law and policy which puts white heterosexual people first, and which puts everyone else in their place.
Mike G
Blinded by the White
Giant cluster of douchebags
Doing evil for the Right
gogol's wife
@Hal:
I had to google to find out who he was.
p.a.
@dmsilev: If Hillary outpolls Bamz among blacks I bet she’ll remind him every time they meet :-)
gene108
In my lifetime, every time Republicans lose a Presidential election, the move further to the Right.
They did this in 1992.
They did this in 2008.
Donald J. Trump, Sr.’s loss will be blamed on the fact he is not a true conservative.
Their ideology and beliefs are stagnant and do not work as advertised. Either they acknowledge this fact* or they double down on their confidence game, with the American public. And I do not see them admitting a mistake.
* Facts have a well known liberal bias, so I doubt they will use them.
Jim, Foolish Literalist
@Hal: We need some star power at this convention! who can we get?
-I don’t know, but here’s a copy of Us Weekly from 1988.
-Great, start making calls!
rikyrah
Hostage situation at Baltimore Burger King is over, police say; suspect in custody
Mary G
@Peale: It’s Ryan’s African-American. Trump told him only one was needed. Also, I don’t believe he shot this himself, so Pinocchios on the “sulphide.”
chopper
@Mike G:
my god, it’s full of derp!
Mary G
@Mary G: FY AutoCorrect, it changed selfie to sulphide.
dmsilev
@p.a.: Hah.
She probably will do better than he did among Hispanics; Telemundo had a poll out this morning showing her winning the Latino vote by 62 percentage points (76-14, 10% undecided). Obama won that demographic by “only” 45 or so points in 2012.
Baud
My favorite line from the article.
satby
Look at all those bright and shiny white children. Teaching their children well…
gogol's wife
@Mary G:
I enjoyed trying to figure out what you meant by sulphide.
dmsilev
@Mary G: Well, there’s something that stinks about Ryan, so maybe your phone knows something we don’t.
Tracy Ratcliff
@Brachiator: From unscientific observations, white male gays are as susceptible to racism, misogyny, classism and the seductions of Objectivism as straights.
Baud
@Tracy Ratcliff: IOW, IGMFY.
FoxinSocks
@schrodinger’s cat:
Have a headache and read that as the, “White Christmas Party,” which would be a lot more festive.
? Martin
That photo looks familiar…
SiubhanDuinne
It is interesting to be my age at this time. I was already an adult in the mid- and late-1960s when television first showed I Spy (Bill Cosby) and Julia (Diahann Carroll), as well as the rare and elusive African American in commercials. And it was genuinely kind of shocking — not horror or disgust or anything, just surprising because so unexpected — to see black faces on TV at all (apart from the evening news, of course). In time, of course, I, along with the entire country, got completely used to seeing multiracial sitcoms and dramas, and all the fuss about integrating network prime time just faded away to a quaint, slightly embarrassing memory.
And now, in 2016? Now, we are most of us so accustomed to seeing a rich mix of skin tones and hair types and eye shapes throughout our media that it is, once again, shocking to see a homogeneous photo like that with 80 or 90 white faces. Only white faces.
But this time around, the shock does include horror and disgust. Shame on you, Paul Ryan.
maya
@MattF:
And owns a portfolio of Trump Bankruptcy derivatives, the next big investor boom.
Anne Laurie
@dmsilev:
I think that’s when even white people who say “… but I have a Black friend!” un-ironically vote against Trump.
MomSense
Wow Ryan is the worst.
I was on a total high from two days of live music, sunshine, and time with family. My kids danced with me in the streets last night. I heard Carla Cooke, Sam Cooke’s daughter, sing A Change is Gonna Come. I got in the car to drive home and the world came crashing down. What happened in Baton Rouge? Do we know anything about the shooter and/or motive yet?
I just watched a clip of the President’s statement and my god that man is trying his best to get all of us spoiled children to behave.
Anne Laurie
@Baud: “People” (Media Village Idiots) just don’t give Paul Ryan enough credit for being the evil, soulless fvcker that he truly is.
satby
The saddest thing is Ryan never saw anything at all with that picture or the lack of diversity in the RNC intern pool, and we’ll all be the racists who point it out.
MattF
@Anne Laurie: Yeah, Ryan somehow gets away with it. It’s those blue eyes.
SiubhanDuinne
@Mary G:
@gogol’s wife:
I referenced Diahann Carroll in my #43. FY Autocorrect kept insisting “Diahann” was supposed to be “Diaphonous.” Caught it in time, but it was close.
hueyplong
The tiniest sliver of silver lining in today is that we now know what can make the right disavow heavily armed “sovereign” types– have basically any number, however small, of black males join the sovereign “movement.”
Frankensteinbeck
It’s as hard to figure out as why Obama is treated differently than all other presidents.
@Brachiator:
That is an interesting one. People traditionally have been quite good at oppressing themselves, especially if the oppression can be framed as a moral issue. My guess would be that the Log Cabin Republicans are comfortable and safe enough in their lives that the danger of Republican bigotry feels smaller than the gains they get of hating on others, or libertarian-style IGMFY. That’s just a guess. I would love to see a bunch of them asked.
Schlemazel Khan
Something about that photo? Hrrmmmm . . . here is a clue
a hip hop artist from Idaho (fka Bella Q)
Wiley got it right in this, I think.
Baud
So basically, today we’ve learned that the sovereign citizen movement is more diverse than the Republican Party.
cmorenc
@Brachiator:
I have a Republican friend I’ve known since we were both just past being toddlers (we’re both in our 60s now) who was for many years a closeted gay, who only “came out” about ten years ago, even though everyone who knew him had much longer ago figured that out about him. He also is comfortably wealthy by inheritance (probably low to mid-single-digits million$) and a hard-working professional from a small eastern North Carolina town, the kind of gay person who for in small-town southern society has been well-accepted socially for decades prior to coming out being at all acceptable, despite everyone realizing (nudge nudge, wink wink) that they are gay, so long as they kept that aspect of their life discreetly out of sight.
My friend’s case goes a long way toward explaining why many gays nevertheless feel quite at home in the Republican party – because their personal economic situation and conservative viewpoint thereon, and longstanding social acceptability within their home communities, makes it much easier for them to place their economic and other social views above their sexual orientation in choosing political allegiances. It also makes it easier for them to keep hoping that their political bedmates will come around someday on acceptance of their personal bedmates, which seems delusional to us, but there it is. BTW: my friend is not, to my knowledge, a member of the “Log Cabin Republicans”, that’s probably still a bit indiscreet for his tastes, even though he quite openly lives with his longtime gay partner, albeit in a much larger, more metropolitan city in NC than the small town he grew up in. The mind is a strange thing, sometimes.
lamh36
I see folks will be using the Black officer who died in BR today to further their narrative.
Hopefully the widow has a strong support group around her so she won’t be used.
Call me a cynic, but I don’t believe Jake Tapper really sees past ratings…much…
rikyrah
So, since they can’t have a mugshot of the shooter – cause, they don’t have a record on him..
they’re gonna pimp the death of the BLACK Officer.
yeah, ok.
Uh huh.
MomSense
@satby:
Clearly the shit eating granny starving grin on his smug face says the man has zero awareness that the largest group of all white interns is a massive fucking failure on his part.
Roger Moore
@cmorenc:
Blacks need to go to the back of the
buspicture.Frank Wilhoit
“…a fateful choice: whether to fully embrace the Trump model and become, effectively, a party of white identity politics, or…”
This is not, in any sense, a change or a novelty, and no one should be allowed to get away with suggesting that it is.
Schlemazel Khan
@gogol’s wife:
I have a copy of that! Also a copy of the Dacron, Ohio Sunday paper that came out a couple years later. Comedic treasures.
BTW – there was 1 black guy in that yearbook too so it does seem about right.
SiubhanDuinne
@cmorenc:
I’m not … I can’t … I don’t ….
Oh! THERE!!!
BR
@rikyrah:
As long as they promote his message of unity that he posted on fb, that doesn’t sound so bad to me…
Brachiator
@cmorenc: I am on my way out to dinner, but wanted to thank you for the well considered reply.
The sad thing is that economic comfort can only partially shield your friend. He is also dependent upon the don’t ask don’t Tell consideration of his friends and neighbors. But if gets sick and is hospitalized, his family could shut his partner out completely, and the passage of more explicit homophobic laws could strip away any protections he has built up.
But yeah, I can believe that quite a few gay people live a life in which laying low and having some degree of economic comfort works for them. For now.
Schlemazel Khan
@gene108:
Just to continue that thread, they did it in 1980 also. 1968 was the outlier there, they chose the more liberal Nixon after the asskicking Goldwater got in 64
Villago Delenda Est
What needs to happen is the Republican Party should be treated exactly the same way as the National Socialist German Workers Party at the end of WWII.
It needs to be annihilated.
MomSense
@Villago Delenda Est:
Yes.
debbie
No, what the GOP refuses to acknowledge is that their message was exclusionary long before Trump came along.
Villago Delenda Est
@Baud: DING DING DING DING DING
SiubhanDuinne
@Schlemazel Khan:
Madison Avenue “Zippy” Jones, if my memory from 35 years ago serves.
There was also a “Fawn” (the hippie), Amana Peppridge Something (the blonde, uh, tease), Chuck U. Farley (the obnoxious rich kid), and a trio of Heathers (Winky, Blinky, and Stinky or something like that).
Wow. Wonder what happened to my copy. Will have to go a-digging.
Thor Heyerdahl
@Brachiator:
There was an article in Time last week about a lesbian on the Republican GOP platform committee – Rachel Hoff. The cognitive dissonance is very strong…with enough contortioning to be on the gymnastics team in Rio (bolding mine).
Bless your heart Ms. Hoff, but that’s bullshit. Republican assholes just aren’t going to tell you to your face like the LGBT will.
JGabriel
Is it me, or do the back and middle rows of interns in that Ryan selfie lose just enough detail such that they all look like button-eyed Coraline other-people?
Starfish
@Brachiator: Some of the White supremacist organizations tout their Christian values as a reason that you would want to join them so it is not shocking for a group to be made up of racists and Christians because you do have some overlap there.
Kathleen
@debbie: This. And the media have been complicit in enabling this lie.
SiubhanDuinne
@Hal:
I do not know who that is.
(Just googled. Still not entirely clear, and surely don’t understand why he’s a speaker.)
schrodinger's cat
@FoxinSocks: I miss snow in July too when its 90% humidity with temps in the 90s. Do. Not. Want.
Schlemazel Khan
@SiubhanDuinne:
I remembered the “Zippy” nickname but not the rest, thats the guy. I know where my copy is, I may dig it out. I remember bits and pieces, mostly stupid stuff. The football teams cheer “PUNT, PUNT, PUNT! KICK THE BALL TOWARDS THE FRONT!”
rikyrah
No…seriously…where’s a picture of the shooter?
come on now.
Emma
@SiubhanDuinne: A conservative Hispanic-sounding guy with a mediocre career? What’s not to like?
BR
@Kathleen:
It won’t work anymore with Pence on the ticket — he’s as bland and mainstream of a GOPer as they come these days.
SiubhanDuinne
@rikyrah:
Wait, what? I missed that one altogether!
Which says something.
TriassicSands
Pence is obviously one more example of the highly principled Republican who would rather die than compromise his principles in the name of political advantage.
Eventually, right wing dictionaries will be able to entirely remove the word principle from the lexicon. For now it simply deserves a notation that it is an archaic term with no current positive application in the GOP.
Governor Pence: “Donald Trump is a good man.”
Wow, So much untruth in so few words.
amk
what white privilege? nothing to see here, move along.
Iowa Old Lady
@satby: It reminds me of the panel of men the Rs assembled to testify on birth control. They didn’t see anything odd about that either.
(We did the Windows 10 update today. I’m still looking for things.)
SiubhanDuinne
@Baud:
There, fixed.
::: dusts hands together, struts off like a Boss :::
Mnemosyne
@SiubhanDuinne:
I am just old enough to remember being surprised to see interracial couples in TV commercials when we visited Hawaii 30 years ago. On the mainland, that was still forbidden.
SiubhanDuinne
@FoxinSocks:
??? I’m dreaming of a white Christian… ???
TriassicSands
@SiubhanDuinne:
Antonio Sabato Jr. — model, actor (sort of), reality show “star.” What better credentials could a person have to speak at a political convention?
As usual, Trump won’t settle for second or even third best, he heads straight for the bottom of the barrel.
Matt McIrvin
@lamh36: They could provide viewers with opera glasses to find them.
RSA
Heh. I commented elsewhere that these interns are a group of well-credentialed 20-somethings who can afford to spend several months living in DC and working at a white collar job for free (Congressional internships are mostly unpaid). In other words, there’s a sense in which this picture is of economic privilege in the U.S.
PsiFighter37
That intern selfie is full of lack of self-awareness.
So much white going on. Someone should check out what the Democratic interns look like. Bet it’s a big difference…
Matt McIrvin
@SiubhanDuinne:
Not the entire country–I’d say about 40, 45% of it still see those integrated crowds and grumble that it’s the foul artifice of political correctness trying to jam a modified reality down our throats.
Kathleen
@debbie: This. And the media have been complicit in enabling this lie.@TriassicSands: Thanks for the info. I had no idea who the hell that guy was but didn’t think it was worth the googlz.
eric
@RSA: luckily we are post racial and no need for affirmative action anymore. *wipes brow* glad that is done!
rikyrah
@SiubhanDuinne:
You thought I was kidding.
They don’t have a MUGSHOT of him.
If he doesn’t have a social media presence..
the only readily available picture of him..
IS HIS ONE FROM THE MARINES.
They ALL have that.
They won’t post it.
I wonder why?
Uh huh.
ThresherK
Just back from the beach with my wife.
First lap swim yesterday (in our town outdoor pool). First trip to the beach today. It’s like summer finally started for us.
Steeplejack
DVR Alert!
TCM is running (for the first time) Haskell Wexler’s Medium Cool (1969) at 10:00 p.m. EDT tonight, as part of a mini-block of political movies leading into the GOP convention this week.
“A TV news cameraman gets swept up in the events of the Democratic Party convention in Chicago in 1968.” Lots of clips on YouTube; original trailer here.
I don’t think I’ve seen this since it first came out. I think it will look pretty dated, but it will also be a fascinating glimpse into a time that a lot of people have been thinking about this year.
ETA: Forgot to mention that I did a spit-take when I watched the trailer and saw that this movie got an X rating (!) when it first came out. I don’t remember much nudity, if any. Maybe the violence was too real, man!
BR
@rikyrah:
I bet you could send a note to a sympathetic news outlet who will post it…
Wag
@gogol’s wife:
I had to google him. Mr Sabato sounds like he might be Hispanic, but he’s really from Italy.
SiubhanDuinne
@Schlemazel Khan:
And the totally dorky music teacher who wrote:
Don’t B flat
Don’t B sharp
Just B natural
Schlemazel Khan
@PsiFighter37:
It might not be. These kids are mostly working for free.
khead
Anyone else catch the shitshow on 60 Minutes that was the Trump/Pence interview?
Aleta
There are so many happy young long haired white girls in the front row! This settles the nonsense about the war on women once and for all.
Sister Rail Gun of Warm Humanitarianism
@rikyrah: The Guardian thinks it’s put two and two together.
SiubhanDuinne
@PsiFighter37:
Oh, I do hope Nancy SMASH! posts a similar selfie with the Dem interns. Everyone will go nuts trying to figure out the blacks from the Hispanics from the Asians from the Native Americans from the Pacific Islanders from the whites from the Inuit/Eskimo. And there is no doubt in my mind that there is a strong mix on our side. Makes us better. Makes us wiser.
The Pale Scot
Mostly off topic,
I was reminiscing about the comics I grew up with and on impulse googled the “Haunted Tank”, a 70’s comic about the experiences of a M3 Stuart light tank in N Africa. The trope is that it’s commended by a decendent of Confederate cavalry officer J.E.B Stuart, whose ghost appears to give him advice.
Well, it’s been re-imagined, and the new story is a M-1 Abrams in Iraq commanded by “Jamal Stuart”, Yep.
If the rebe-racists saw this, It’s not Capt America, but I can see some heads exploding.
TriassicSands
@Kathleen:
And I wouldn’t argue that you were wrong. Trump’s life seems to be immersed in and surrounded by mediocrity. And that is the good stuff.
SiubhanDuinne
@Matt McIrvin:
You think? There may still be a lot of people in this country who don’t like it, but I can’t believe anyone is surprised these days to see black faces on shows and ads. And it was the element of surprise that I was addressing.
Schlemazel Khan
@SiubhanDuinne:
I actually had a bandmate write that ironically in my 1969 yearbook.
rikyrah
Ok, been to msnbc, cnn, cbs, nyt, washington post. Only one pic of him at CBS, and it’s a screengrab.
NOBODY has posted his Marine Picture.
Glidwrith
@BR: No, Pence is neither bland or mainstream. He is more extreme than Paul Ryan, Michelle Bachman, Steve King or Louie Gohmert.
This is the guy who signed legislation for women to pay funeral expenses for miscarriages or abortions (google Periods for Pence to get an eyeful).
He cut so much funding for Planned Parenthood that the loss of one of the clinics resulted in a HIV outbreak with 190 cases in one county.
This guy signed off on the first of the religious freedom bills that would have codified discrimination into law.
He and the Dumpster should fit together just fine if Dumpster can get past even a tiny part of his ego.
RSA
@eric: Yeah, and if the photo had shown people’s feet, we’d have seen lots of sturdy bootstraps. Some people just pull harder than others, right?
hovercraft
@khead:
I missed it, but TPM had a story up this morning about Trump cutting off and speaking over his flunky, uhmm vp.
I did see Tweety describe his selection of Pence as exquisite to Paul Manaford.
BR
@Glidwrith:
Mainstream for the GOP, not the nation. It’s who they are now.
MomSense
@rikyrah:
The stereotypes are in conflict. Our media cannot deal with the complexities of life
rikyrah
Gavin Long- -saying, he reached the rank of sergeant “in less than three years as one
of the Corps most physically fit and disciplined Marines.-
rikyrah
@MomSense:
I’ve been saying this all day..
The racists and the MSM can’t handle it when a Dave Chappelle Show Skit comes to life.
rikyrah
The shooter:
He was a Dean’s List student @ U of AL for a semester
SiubhanDuinne
@rikyrah:
Rikyrah, I have never thought you were kidding about anything, from your daily pre-dawn “Good morning”s to your devastating article links. I completely value you as commenter — you usually offer a new, or expanded, perspective, and find newsworthy reporting that nobody else has bothered to cover.
Keep on preaching, my friend.
john fremont
@cmorenc: The socially liberal, fiscally conservative position that moderate business wing Repubs espouse. Translated means, the culture wars don’t interest me but anything that costs me more in taxes i.e. social spending, gets me involved.
SiubhanDuinne
@Schlemazel Khan:
Oh, yeah, I think we all did (Choir, Class of 1960 for me, but the principle holds).
Steve in the ATL
@Baud:
Well played, Mr. President
Emma
@khead: Report!
khead
@Emma:
No straight answers. None. To any question. The solution to ISIS is “big league intelligence”. That one made me laugh out loud.
Ken
@SiubhanDuinne:
He said yes, unlike the first three hundred people they asked?
ThresherK
@Steve in the ATL: I didn’t hear much of the speech. He said that? Good stuff.
I can’t fathom the ability that man has to do this so well. I can’t conceive of wanting to have anyone have to do this so often.
lamh36
Notice graph show killings down since 2011…but that’s the the narrative so…
CNN goes with headline that cop killings up since July ’15…
SiubhanDuinne
@khead:
Did not see it. Is that the one with the gilded thrones, or is that for some other T&V show?
glory b
@cmorenc: I actually watched a few episodes of the Cailtin Jenner reality show. She’s still a republican (so far as I’ve heard) and used the bathroom in Trump Towers as proof that he is okay, nothing to see hear.
She mentioned several times that she didn’t want her tax dollars going to support things like shelters for homeless LGBT teens and the like, she thought they should be out there getting jobs.
Emma
@khead: “Big League Intelligence?” WTF? We’ll hire the Vatican Intelligence Service?
eric
@Emma: not that Bad News Bears Intelligence from the run up to Gulf War 2: The WMD Whisperer
hovercraft
@SiubhanDuinne:
Yes on the thrones.
gene108
@Matt McIrvin:
They know it is real. Unless you are in some lily white state, you see interracial hook-ups and dating all around you.
You just wish it would all go away and that the kids these days (and society at large) still cared as much as you do about race mixing.
Aleta
@glory b:
.
un(sadly)believable
Matt McIrvin
@cmorenc: As gay rights become a less controversial presence in American life, it’s going to be easier for gay people to be politically conservative, rather than harder. So I don’t expect this to go away.
SiubhanDuinne
@Ken:
Ahhh, of course you are right.
MomSense
@lamh36:
CNN is pathetic at this point.
Chris
@Anne Laurie:
Well, of course not. He’s Part Of The Club.
Chris
@Frankensteinbeck:
It’s also my observation that minority Republicans are often people who are themselves strongly prejudiced in some form or other. Not self-loathing towards their own group, but towards others. Anecdotally, the gay Republicans I know are virulently Islamophobic even by GOP standards, while Muslim Republicans are virulently homophobic even by GOP standards. A less controversial variation (in that this is an issue that doesn’t matter nearly as much as it used to): when I was involved in the religious communities on my undergrad campus, I noted with some amusement that the most rabid anti-Catholic Protestants and the most rabid anti-Protestant Catholics were also both reliably the most Republican members of their groups.
The party’s ability to cultivate even contradictory strands of hate is really remarkable.
Chris
@Frank Wilhoit:
Yep. The sudden, wide-eyed innocent protests of the VSPs and the non-Trump Republican primary voters that “ohhhh, is there white supremacism in our party? We had no idea! How’d it get there?” has been one of the more spectacular displays of the last year or so, and they absolutely should never be allowed to get away with it. Especially when almost all of them are going to go for Trump anyway.
Chris
@Villago Delenda Est:
America given a post-1945-denazification level full-on enforced deprogramming? Yeah, in my more depressed moments (which come more and more often WRT politics), I have been known to find myself thinking that that’s the only way to flush all the shit out of the system.
It is, of course, a fantasy – like “why don’t all the red states just fucking secede and we let them this time,” or “bring on the meteor,” it may feel good to think, but that’s all.
amk
@Chris:
Obama is a dictator. Obama is a weakling.
See, how easy it is?
sukabi
@MattF: so…. all failed Trump businesses, have the products been warehoused to be relaunched for the bread and circuses?
Patricia Kayden
@lamh36: Do you really think that anyone in the GOP cares that all of those interns are White? This is what they believe happens in a meritocracy, i.e., no pesky affirmative action to help those dumb darkies.
Enhanced Voting Techniques
That photo of the interns, my god, I was blinded by the white.
Gretchen
@SiubhanDuinne: @SiubhanDuinne: @SiubhanDuinne: when I was a kid in the ’60s I thought there must be separate tv stations for black people since all the people on my tv were white, I thought there must be a different tv where all the people were black for black people to watch
TriassicSands
Breaking News — negotiations have broken down to have Clint Eastwood and “the chair” appear at this week’s GOP convention. It seems the chair has refused to appear in any event that includes Donald Trump. One sticking point was Trump’s obvious preference for thrones over mere chairs. “That’s blatant racism,” the chair was overheard saying.
In lieu of watching the Trumpfest this week, go back and relive those wonderful moments when Clint showed what a searing intellect he is. In his debate with the empty chair, Eastwood managed to lose — and it wasn’t even close.
Note: Eastwood is supporting Trump. Big surprise.
Mart
Picture looked allwhite to me.
Paul in KY
@Brachiator: Think all those ‘Log Cabin’ guys are rich & are GOP for the anti-tax stuff.
Paul in KY
@gene108: They feel that if they try to get elected on issues that are ‘Democratic’, like actually trying to govern, keep infrastructure up, help people out, etc. they’ll lose every time.
That’s why they brand themselves like that. Very nihilistic ideology.
gex
@Frankensteinbeck: Very late, but basically, there are so many advantages to being a white male in our society that, coupled with increasing acceptance of gays outside of the GOP, that they are now pursuing their own self interest because they can freeload off the work that QPOC and queer women do.