Come for the politics, stay for the snark.

I’d like to think you all would remain faithful to me if i ever tried to have some of you killed.

Come for the politics, stay for the snark.

Joe Lieberman disappointingly reemerged to remind us that he’s still alive.

Russian mouthpiece, go fuck yourself.

“I never thought they’d lock HIM up,” sobbed a distraught member of the Lock Her Up Party.

Their freedom requires your slavery.

We’ve had enough carrots to last a lifetime. break out the sticks.

Motto for the House: Flip 5 and lose none.

We still have time to mess this up!

He really is that stupid.

After roe, women are no longer free.

Republicans seem to think life begins at the candlelight dinner the night before.

Black Jesus loves a paper trail.

“Squeaker” McCarthy

Speaking of republicans, is there a way for a political party to declare intellectual bankruptcy?

If you tweet it in all caps, that makes it true!

“What are Republicans afraid of?” Everything.

I wonder if trump will be tried as an adult.

Fuck these fucking interesting times.

Nothing worth doing is easy.

“Everybody’s entitled to be an idiot.”

Putin dreamed of ending NATO, and now it’s Finnish-ed.

Thanks to your bullshit, we are now under siege.

We’ll be taking my thoughts and prayers to the ballot box.

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Reminder: Mike Pence Is Every Bit As Dangerous As Donald Trump

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There are two wings in the modern Republican party: the “I Got Mine, Fvck You” (‘business’) clan, represented this presidential year by Donald Trump; and the “We Hate All the Same People You Hate” (‘religious’) group, now ably seconded by Mike Pence. Of course the overlap between the two is large — the main difference between Trump’s career and Pence’s is that when Pence threw other peoples’ money around, he was to some degree subject to the wrath of his victims, the voters. (Despite his best efforts to keep them from hearing about it.) He’s also, per Think Progress, a longtime shill for the tobacco industry. Truly the Swiss army knife of RWNJs!

From Jezebel‘s political sub-blog The Slot, “Get to Know Mike Pence and All of the Very Bad Legislation He’s Signed”:

… Pence is a bit of a darling among anti-choice groups. As a member of Congress, Pence sponsored a 2007 bill to defund Planned Parenthood, the first of its kind, the legislation set off a now nearly decade old congressional battle to defund the organization. Pence reintroduced the legislation multiple times until he left the House in 2011. “Let the abortion providers provide for themselves,” Pence told Politico in 2007. “I’d like to continue to be a persistent, respectful voice for the sanctity of life.”

It was a template and an indicator of how he would treat women’s health as governor of Indiana. As governor, Pence signed virtually every anti-choice bill that was put on his desk, including HB 1337, an omnibus abortion bill that a federal court blocked from taking effect in June of this year.

Pence described the law “a comprehensive pro-life measure that affirms the value of all human life.” In reality, it is a deeply invasive law lacking both empathy and reason (unsurprising, perhaps, from the state that jailed Purvi Patel). HB 1337 bans women from seeking abortions based on race, gender or fetal anomaly; it also mandates that women be required to bury or cremate the fetus post-termination. In addition, it required that abortion doctors have admitting privileges in order to practice, a restriction that the Supreme Court recently struck down in Whole Woman’s Health vs. Hellerstedt…

In 2015, Pence also signed the Religious Freedom Restoration Act (RFRA). The controversial law prohibits the passage of state laws that “substantially burden” the religious beliefs of individuals. According to the Associated Press, the definition of an “individual” originally included churches and religious institutions, as well as businesses and other entities (RIP Memories Pizza who played themselves all the way to closing).

The law and its passage were a mess. LGBTQ activists argued that the bill would effectively allow business owners to discriminate and deny customers service if they were LGBTQ (or merely if the owner of the business perceived them to be). After numerous companies and organizations, including Angie’s List and the NCAA, announced that they would boycott the state, the Indiana legislature amended the bill, clarifying that it could not be used to discriminate against LGTBQ people.

Pence handled the passage of the bill poorly. He acknowledged that the bill was discriminatory, yet signed it anyway and, in the process, lost quite a bit of cash for Indiana businesses…


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  2. 2.

    SiubhanDuinne

    You know, I foolishly (very foolishly!) thought that the combined PBS-NPR convention coverage would be a notch better than anything else.

    How wrong can a person be?

  5. 5.

    Mike in NC

    I’m ready to call the GOP 2020 ticket: Ted Cruz / Steve King

    They always manage to sink deeper into the slime.

  7. 7.

    JPL

    Since I don’t have cable, but do have four PBS feeds by way of my antenna, I’m going to watch Midsomer Murders and then Luther. I’ll catch up in the morning on the convention. I’m sure the Melania will say how sweet her husband is and how her husband will keep America safe, like he did for her son. Night all.

  8. 8.

    Capri

    As a Hoosier, the huge silver lining is that Pence is no longer running for state office. Being named to the ticket has been a deal-breaker for several of the folks I know who are Republicans and were flirting with Trump.

  10. 10.

    Schlemazel Khan

    @SiubhanDuinne:
    Seriously?!? They bow to the same corporate overlords as the rest of the TV media, why would you expect them to be better? The GOP screwed them hard & left them begging for money, this allowed them to become wards of the wealthy and well connected & they sever their masters well. The ‘liberal’ thing is just tossed against them because it is fun to do now.

  14. 14.

    Jim, Foolish Literalist

    Did I miss Chachi?

    I missed this
    ‏

    @ Scott_Ott
    Shameful, Hellish “prayer” by Pastor Mark Burns of SC. “Our enemy is Hillary Clinton and the Democrats.” #RNC @GOP

  16. 16.

    raven

    Prominent widows of the September 11 2001 terror attacks endorsed John Kerry’s run for the presidency yesterday, accusing George Bush of betrayal and of leading the country into a state of permanent war.
    “The truth is, after watching the Republican convention in New York, I am scared. I am scared of the mentality,” said Kirsten Breitweiser, the most celebrated of the self-styled Jersey Girls, four widows who led a dogged campaign to force the Bush administration to establish an independent investigation into the attacks.

  17. 17.

    SiubhanDuinne

    Oh god, oh jeez, poor old Bob Dole. So embarrassing. Go away NPR-PBS, I’m going to listen to MSNBC where at least they don’t pretend quite as much.

  19. 19.

    Baud

    Pence is a letdown to all the gay white boys who thought the world was safe to vote for the GOP.

  20. 20.

    Comrade Scrutinizer

    @raven: Huh. I wonder if he stole it from Jim Naureckus’ article “Context Free Coverage of Terror Helps Perpetuate It’s Causes”:

    It feels callous to question the allocation of outrage; empathy is in such short supply in this world that one hesitates to question it when it emerges. But as a long-time citizen of New York City, I’m all too aware of the weaponization of grief. The outpouring of no-context, ahistorical sympathy after 9/11 helped pave the way for a violent reaction that killed in Iraq alone roughly 150 times as many people as died in Lower Manhattan that day—an opportunistic catastrophe that did more to mock than avenge those deaths.

    It’s hard to imagine that Schmidt would have come up with that himself. I’m sure he twisted it.

  21. 21.

    Corner Stone

    Oh no. I hope that’s not the dress Melania will be wearing for her address tonight.
    We’ve had enough grief for one night.

  22. 22.

    SiubhanDuinne

    I hope someone (I suggest Mark Knoller, who keeps numbers on everything) is keeping an accurate count of the number of times RNC speakers say “Crooked Hillary” to applause. Doesn’t it get old at some point?

    Not so far, not tonight.

  24. 24.

    Comrade Scrutinizer

    @raven:

    eta He is now saying democrats did it after 9-11.

    Yup. We are solely responsible for the drive to war in Iraq. Cheney and Bush tried their damnedest to rein in us warmongering bastards, but we just ran roughshod over their pacifistic asses.

  25. 25.

    Iowa Old Lady

    I think I have to buy this T-shirt.

    I believe the Democrats plan to have the mothers of Trayvon Martin and other gunned down African Americans as speakers. I hope they manage it in a way that’s less exploitive than that poor Benghazi mother’s appearance.

  34. 34.

    dmsilev

    @trollhattan: Wow:

    Let me say – as a card-carrying Hillary-hater of many years – this strikes me as deranged

    You have to get _really_ deranged with the Hillary-hate for Andrew Sullivan to regard it as over the top.

  37. 37.

    Corner Stone

    @dmsilev: Their grief has caused a hole that needs to be filled. I am off to get Popeye’s chicken.
    Please to keep an eye on these people, thanks.

  39. 39.

    laura

    @Jim, Foolish Literalist: that’s your expected outcome of 30 years of Radio Rwanda. We’re no longer the loyal opposition, or the other party or the Dems. We’re the enemy In His Name.
    That’ll end well.

  40. 40.

    trnc

    @Jim, Foolish Literalist: Ira’s Dad over at TPM noted that Chachi said he and his wife went to church to reflect on Trump’s candidacy, and ID wondered if that was when God told him that he should call Hillary Clinton a (rhymes with Punt).

  43. 43.

    danielx

    There are two wings in the modern Republican party: the “I Got Mine, Fvck You” (‘business’) clan, represented this presidential year by Donald Trump; and the “We Hate All the Same People You Hate” (‘religious’) group, now ably seconded by Mike Pence.

    The upside is that long-suffering residents of Indiana will no longer have to put up with Mike Pence. Mitch Daniels was bad enough, but you can deal with ordinary corrupt corporate Republicans. Adding self-righteous religiosity and bigotry makes for a truly insufferable mix, although Pence does have truly excellent political hair which definitely adds balance to the ticket. There is in fact a school of thought among Indiana political observers that views Pence’s hair as the most intelligent part of his head.

  45. 45.

    dmsilev

    RNC livestream showing people chanting ‘Trump, Trump, Trump’ looking utterly bored and clearly wishing that they were out hitting the bars or picking up prostitutes.

  47. 47.

    danielx

    @schrodinger’s cat:

    I’d be willing to wager that if there was a flood of blond blue-eyed Scandahoovians coming over the northern Minnesota border there would be a much larger welcome mat, even if they spoke nothing but Norwegian.

  48. 48.

    dmsilev

    “Good news out of Maryland”, nobody will be accountable for the death of Freddie Gray in Baltimore. And yes, that first bit is a direct quote.

  49. 49.

    Cacti

    The Trump 2016 campaign is the right wing distilled to its essence.

    No window dressing about tax cuts, trickle down economics, shrinking the size of government, etc.

    It’s all about who they hate.

  52. 52.

    weaselone

    @danielx:

    Did not a majority of the long suffering citizens of Indiana who actually bothered to show up vote for Pence, or does Indiana have a strange law whereby only the residents of other states are permitted to vote in gubernatorial elections?

  53. 53.

    trollhattan

    Applause for the rule of law, now citing MLKJr.There’s your hijack o’ the night. Who the heck is this? Anarchy!

  55. 55.

    raven

    @trollhattan:

    David A. Clarke Jr. (born August 21, 1956) is the 64th Sheriff of Milwaukee County, Wisconsin. In 2002, Clarke was appointed to a vacancy by Governor Scott McCallum, and later elected that same year to his first four-year term. He was re-elected in November 2006, 2010, and 2014, and is currently serving his fourth full term.

  56. 56.

    Ohio Mom

    @schrodinger’s cat: I was thinking about that white Italian actor (didn’t catch his name) and Mrs. Trump. Both showcased as “good” immigrants, both white, and clearly not Muslim.

    As for Jews, Republicans have long pretended to like us.

    On a related note, I find the conventioneers’ excitement and pride in their token Black speakers ruefully entertaining.

  57. 57.

    Aleta

    @dmsilev: unspeakable, and then he attacked the prosecutor by name

    How can he call for more respect for law officers and then disrespect the prosecutor

  58. 58.

    trollhattan

    @raven:
    Jesus wept. A full-on spew of fear-mongering and whopping statistical lies. Nice job, Wisconsin.

  59. 59.

    dmsilev

    “I met my wife on a reality TV show. Now we have 8 kids”

    This is apparently the comedic interval.

  61. 61.

    Renie

    I saw a tweet by Jeet Heer earlier asking what does any of this have to do with the election? thought about it and it all is nothing about what trump will do to help the country; it seems to just be all about hate. Just building up the hate against Hillary.

  64. 64.

    dmsilev

    @Renie: That’s all it is. Of course, tying Hillary to the guy who is currently the most popular national politician in the country may not be the brightest strategy.

  70. 70.

    dmsilev

    Applause lines landing with a resounding thud.

    Oh goody, a Al Sharpton/Jessie Jackson line. So very topical. Can we at least get something from post-2000?

  71. 71.

    trollhattan

    @Omnes Omnibus:
    I know the syndrome. Our county sheriff is papering the metroplex with gun permits while the city police chief rolls his eyes.Not helping.

  72. 72.

    Steve in the ATL

    Driving around NoVa today, I saw several Hillary bumper stickers, several Bernie stickers, and -zero- Trump stickers. Oh, and the one Jefferson Davis sticker in Richmond yesterday.

  75. 75.

    raven

    A University of Georgia student reportedly threatened to sue police early Saturday morning as he was being arrested on alcohol-related charges, Athens-Clarke police said.
    Police said a security guard at the 755 Broad luxury apartments called them about 2:45 a.m. to report he was detaining 19-year-old William Dunbar Healy, who he said had been pulling on doors at the apartment complex.
    When taking custody of Healy, police said the student warned them that both of his parents were lawyers and that he was going to sue, police said. Healy then fell to the ground and began screaming that he was being assaulted, at which time officers reportedly told him that no one was around to see what he was doing, to which he replied, “Oh,” and stopped, allowing officers to pick him up, police said.
    After being placed in a patrol car, police said Healy asked officers to get money out of his
    .wallet and give it to him “because we were going to rob him,” according to police.
    At the Clarke County Jail, Healy reportedly called a black sheriff’s deputy racist and said that “this was only happening to him because he was white,” police said.
    Healy was charged with public intoxication and underage consumption of alcohol.

  76. 76.

    hovercraft

    @dmsilev:
    He’s a Fox democrat, he hates BLM with the power of a thousand suns and Obama as well. He was on with Don Lemon last night and Lemon came off as the smart, coherent one.

  78. 78.

    Jim, Foolish Literalist

    Kinda weird seeing Bob Dole there. I don’t remember him at all in 2012, I know he was close to McCain. He was no saint but I never thought of him as a hater, I’m kind of surprised how vocal he’s been about Trump, and it looks like he doesn’t get around very easily.

  79. 79.

    catclub

    @Renie: Others have pointed out that the convention is still selling Trump to the GOP. When it should be selling Trump to all the new voters he needs to convince.

    Like when they tried to humanize Romney. Looking back he seems so reasonable by comparison.

  80. 80.

    SiubhanDuinne

    I feel as though I used to like Judy Woodruff. When did she get to be so awful? (Have actually not heard her in years, but she is co-hosting the NPR-PBS coverage.) Lordy.

  82. 82.

    hovercraft

    @Aleta:
    Police are never wrong, they are the only people who actually care about black lives, per the sheriff in an interview earlier today. So anyone who does not lick their boots is evil.

  83. 83.

    trollhattan

    Sully doesn’t disappoint.

    A sheriff is trying to argue against the facts of a drop in crime. He offers instead a feeling: that people do not feel secure in their communities. Again, it is vital to avoid the data or the facts. What matters is pure feeling. This goes of course also for the Black Lives Matter activists, whose core and central argument is that black men are disproportionately killed by cops. The best data shows this is false – just as their narrative about Michael Brown was false. Thanks in part to the radicalized racial left – we now have merely one identity politics waging war against another. They have a terrible inter-relationship, these two illiberalisms. They foment each other.

    Jeez, to think I used to read him.

  84. 84.

    Marc McKenzie

    Both Trump and Pence are horrid choices, to be honest.

    But you know…there’s always gotta be someone who will pop up and utter that “Hillary is worse!” and then add how they’re voting for Stein or writing in another candidate or something something to prove just how pure they are.

    Hillary is waaaayyy better than these two. No contest.

  86. 86.

    Baud

    TPM

    Ken Cuccinelli, a prominent stop-Trumper, told reporters tonight that the Trump campaign went as far as to threaten to take away Iowa’s first in the nation caucus if they didn’t back don’t on the rules vote on the convention floor.

  87. 87.

    dmsilev

    Sen. Tom Cotton up now. One of the bigger jackasses of the evening, and yes I’m aware of the level of competition.

  88. 88.

    trollhattan

    Heh, I pasted in a Sully quote and WP done eated it. So go read his thoughts on how the crazy sheriff and BLM are the same.

  89. 89.

    schrodinger's cat

    @Omnes Omnibus: My anecdata contradicts your assertion. My Norwegian friend (from Norway) has blonde hair and blue eyes another friend with Norwegian parentage from Minnesota has blue eyes and is balding right now with grey temples. However, I wouldn’t be surprised if he was blonde when he did have hair.

  92. 92.

    Patricia Kayden

    @Mary G: Watching Sam Seder’s coverage live. The Convention is boring as hell, interspersed with bold faced vitriol. Cannot imagine a week of this.

  93. 93.

    SiubhanDuinne

    @Schlemazel Khan:

    Yeah, I know. But I spent twelve years of my life working for NPR member stations (not NPR itself) back before they were total corporate sellouts, and old loyalties die hard. It’s a huge disappointment, every time I’m brought face-to-face with it.

  95. 95.

    hovercraft

    Hugh Hewitt has decreed that this shit show is going splendidly, so relax people it’s a disaster.

  96. 96.

    dmsilev

    Ex-Trump campaign manager Corey Lewandowski promised that viewers of his week’s GOP convention were going to see the softer side of his former boss.

    “I think they’re going to see Mrs. Trump talk about her relationship with her husband and what kind of father he is and that’s a different message than most people see from Donald Trump,” Lewandowski, a New Hampshire delegate, told TPM on the floor of the Quicken Loans Center

    We’ll see the softer side of the asshole.

  97. 97.

    MomSense

    Is Cotton the one who said Ebola infected Muslims had a plan to cross the Mexican border to give us all Ebola?

  100. 100.

    I Am Not King Jon Snow

    Working theory: This convention is an elaborate false flag operation. Brilliantly designed to (a) make the GOP look crazier than the Mad King and (b) maximize Democratic turnout.

  102. 102.

    Steve in the ATL

    @SiubhanDuinne:

    @Jim, Foolish Literalist:

    “Our enemy is Hillary Clinton and the Democrats.”

    “You hear me, God? You fuckin HEAR ME ?!?!?!?”

    SD, you have been en fuego lately!

  104. 104.

    trollhattan

    @Marc McKenzie:
    I don’t believe Warren is Hillary’s best choice but I’m going to set that aside to bathe in the imagined spectacle of her debating Pence on the teevee machine for all the world to see. I’m not sure he’d actually be alive at the finish.

  105. 105.

    Ohio Mom

    One thing that strikes me about the bits and pieces of the speeches I’ve heard so far is that they all sound like they are written on a fourth grade level. No fancy words or long sentences or big ideas or historical references or metaphors, just very simple in every way. In that respect, they are just like every one of Trump’s utterances.

  111. 111.

    SiubhanDuinne

    @raven:

    Wait, did he just say something like “so my (x) little children may someday live in peace”??

    Wow.

  112. 112.

    dmsilev

    @MomSense: Just imagine someone screaming incoherently for ten minutes straight. Most of the speeches boil down to that.

  116. 116.

    SiubhanDuinne

    And now this woman. “We’re here because we’re here because we’re here because we’re here….”

  121. 121.

    jl

    Not watching the mess, but I read some place that whatever is happening is considerably toned down from what Trump Himself wanted to put on tonight.
    From TPM blog, what is actually happening seems like a hazardous waste dumpster fire.

  122. 122.

    MomSense

    I’m guessing this “refusing to call our enemy by name” is a big deal for Republicans.

  123. 123.

    Omnes Omnibus

    @trollhattan: I have paid only enough attention to Pence over the year to know that he is stupid and evil. I’ll take your word for it.

  126. 126.

    gogol's wife

    So Melania hasn’t appeared yet? I keep coming here to check. I certainly cannot watch this, but your commentary is giving me the gist.

  127. 127.

    Steve in the ATL

    @SiubhanDuinne: Judy Woodruff spoke at my daughter’s college last fall. She was great. Didn’t mention any names, but said something like, “I know your football team is having a rough season. Is the solution to find a coach who has never played or coached football before?”

  128. 128.

    dmsilev

    @MomSense: Remember Romney trying to use it as a set of magic words in the 2012 debates? They really seem to think that life is like a Harry Potter novel: wave the wand and say the magic words, and Things Happen.

  129. 129.

    hovercraft

    @SiubhanDuinne:
    Rules of engagement, too much focus on winning hearts and minds, won’t call the enemy by name. These speeches are just slogans yelled from the podium.

  130. 130.

    Botsplainer, Neoliberal Corporatist Shill

    Couple of things:

    1. I won’t watch. Went to get a checkup last week, and pulse and BP numbers were all really good. Don’t want to see myself go down the path of abject rage.

    2. The thing about Benghazi – the rage started when there dared be official criticism of a redneck piece of shit racist “pastor” of a shit-drawling white trash tiny Fundamentalcase congregation doing a Koran-burning video which sparked riots across the Muslim world. Those riots were used as a cover for the Benghazi attack.

    Here is that piece of shit Terry Jones and his shit-drawling redneck filth congregation using the word “nigger” repeatedly.

    This is the thing the right was going to war over. Romney probably collapsed his campaign on it, the email gripes sprang from it, and after a half dozen expensive investigations, it is the main subject of the 2016 campaign.

    All because a Real ‘Murkan piece of shit redneck racist got criticized.

    Fuck them. Fuck their faith.

  132. 132.

    dmsilev

    @gogol’s wife: Won’t be for a while yet. The broadcast networks are going to start their live feeds at the top of the hour, and there are still several speakers left to go before Mrs. Trump.

  135. 135.

    Iowa Old Lady

    I’m not watching, just reading around the web, and my conclusion is that to a normal person, tonight’s show is emotionally off putting.

  136. 136.

    SFAW

    @Baud:

    When did they retire Jane Fonda?

    She’s on sabbatical, not retired. She’ll be mentioned right before the nutcase who talks about FDR (or Truman) giving Europe to the Russkies.

  137. 137.

    ThresherK (GPad)

    @SiubhanDuinne: I like your demarcating NPR from member stations. Some of the better people on public radio are too good to dive into the pablum and lie-providing of the mothership. WAMC’s local stuff is great, for one.

  139. 139.

    jacy

    I made the mistake of looking at Sully’s liveblog. Now I remember why I didn’t miss him when he was gone. For fuck’s sake.

    Sully Sez:
    “This goes of course also for the Black Lives Matter activists, whose core and central argument is that black men are disproportionately killed by cops. The best data shows this is false – just as their narrative about Michael Brown was false. Thanks in part to the radicalized racial left – we now have merely one identity politics waging war against another. They have a terrible inter-relationship, these two illiberalisms. They foment each other.”

  143. 143.

    trollhattan

    Sully doubles down. We’ll see if FYWP allows his tome this go.

    The key argument of BLM is that black lives are at stake, and can be killed with impunity by racist cops. That is false. So much else about police interactions with black men is painful and appalling. But their lives are as safe as white lives, when confronting cops.

    Tory git.

  146. 146.

    jacy

    Sully just blogged that black lives are just as safe as white llives when dealing with cops. No, really, he did.

  147. 147.

    SiubhanDuinne

    @ThresherK (GPad):

    My local station has made a ton of programming decisions in the last couple of years that piss me off no end (mostly having to do with a de-emphasis on classical music), but they do have some local investigative journalists who have done terrific work (and won a number of awards from the Atlanta Press Club and others).

  150. 150.

    Mary G

    OK, the cognitive dissonance is getting to me and I hate Rudy 911, so I’m going to have dinner and play with the cats.

  151. 151.

    Emma

    @jacy: I think it’s Charles Pierce who says that when listening to the Pauls, father and son, you’re going right along with no problem until the 4:59 mark. Then it’s 5:00 and the crazy hits the fan. With Sully, it’s pretty much the same way.

  153. 153.

    Renie

    OMG Rudy 911 Guiliani is on now. I dislike this man so much I can’t even watch it muted. With that body language, all he needs is a mustache and he would look like Hitler speaking.

  154. 154.

    trollhattan

    @gogol’s wife:
    Saw Tina Turner during her second, solo career in a high-dollar show. At some point a runway extending from the main stage dropped from the arena ceiling, which she used to shimmy into the center of the crowd and sing next to us.

    I want that for Frau Trump. There will be old man deaths.

  155. 155.

    catclub

    @SFAW: I would guess that Jimmy Carter has been on vacation as history’s greatest monster, as well.

    Maybe he and Jane can be brought back with Emmanuel Goldstein.

  157. 157.

    Anne Laurie

    @Omnes Omnibus:

    Oddly, Norwegians are the least blonde and blue-eyed of the Scandinavians.

    But those bastids are (genetically) responsible for Karl Rove. (Who looks scarily like my least favorite N-A brother-in-law.)

    Norwegians will tell you, without shame, that they pacified their nation by sending all the most demented members off to terrorize the civilized world during the Middle Ages. People like Rove carry on their not-so-proud Viking heritage, without shame.

  159. 159.

    catclub

    @Baud: That is a campaign promise I approve of.

    Kind of like George Bush may be the worst president ever, but after about 2005 he told Dick Cheney to shut the fuck up over Iran. Low bar, but still.

  160. 160.

    hovercraft

    Now POS Rudy, he’s praying for the police because ni**erg have placed a target on their backs. It was implied.
    Mocking Obama’s 2004 speech, what happened to one America, says he cleaned up and united NYC, and Donald can do the same for America. Donald has a great big generous anonymous heart. The media should stop lying about the great man.
    Muslim bashing now.

  162. 162.

    ThresherK (GPad)

    @SiubhanDuinne: So, what shows from there should I try on?

    I’m recommending WAMC’s The Media Project. It is small-scale but is a much better piece of media crit than On the Media.

  165. 165.

    hovercraft

    Now we’re onto the Benghazi portion, Hillary lied to the families and to congress.
    Benghazi deaths are Hillary’s fault, Donald will lead by leading not by following. Hillary is going to let Syrians with embedded terrorists who are coming to kill us.
    No time left to revive our great country, there’s no next election, it must be Trump to save us now. Vote for Trump. GREATNESS!!!!

  166. 166.

    Anne Laurie

    @MomSense:

    Is Cotton the one who said Ebola infected Muslims had a plan to cross the Mexican border to give us all Ebola?

    Yep.

    To be fair, Cotton’s “spokesperson” suggested that the wiley ISIS terrorists would direct Mexican drug cartels to smuggle Ebola. Cotton himself prefers to blame all the world’s worst terrors on Iranians, and he is smart enough to know the difference between ISIS & Iran — but not honest enough to disambiguate the two for his less well-educated constituents.

  167. 167.

    MCA1

    Speech titles just leaked –

    Tom Cotton: “I Am The Banality of Evil”
    Rudy: “A Million Flecks of Spittle”

  170. 170.

    Anne Laurie

    @dmsilev:

    They really seem to think that life is like a Harry Potter novel: wave the wand and say the magic words, and Things Happen.

    See, that’s where they figure Hillary went wrong: She has no ‘wand’!

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    SiubhanDuinne

    @ThresherK (GPad):

    Well, it’s not so much “shows” as it is certain reporters doing certain stories. And with the new(ish) format, there’s no telling where those stories may turn up.

    For instance, Jim Burress is terrific as a reporter, and has been professionally recognised as such. But WABE has him assigned as co-host of a usually tedious midday “in-depth” “news” program (A Closer Look, of all the unoriginal titles) sharing the mic with one of the most annoying, incompetent people I’ve ever heard. A very bad match, and a terrible waste of his talents. In any case, his (and others’) long-form reporting might show up on Closer Look, or the local drop-ins of Morning Edition or ATC. There’s no single go-to program.

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    MCA1

    Scott Baio: “You Won’t Believe How Big An Asshole I Am. Yuge.”
    Melania: “How Do I Sound Like I Give A Shit about These Little People in English?”

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    01jack

    Melania, according to The Guardian:

    I can assure you, he’s the guy. He will never ever give up, and most importantly, he will never let you down.

    We’re getting rick rolled.

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    hovercraft

    @Anne Laurie:
    Republicans are all about symbolism, the achievements they site are slogans like “shock and awe”, “shining city on a hill”, “tear down this wall”, never mind the actual results or actions, it sounded tough so they were tough. John Wayne was a hero to many of them as kids, and then Clint Eastwood, for most of us they were hollywood creations, for them they were real life role models. Details and hard work are for suckers, slogans are the way to go.

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    ThresherK (GPad)

    @sukabi: I would love to drop Sully into My Man Godfrey, simply to hear what his takeaway is from that story. I have the feeling he doesn’t get it.

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    hovercraft

    @01jack:
    I don’t know who she’s talking about, but he sounds nothing like the dumpster fire we’ve been seeing on our tv’s everyday.

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    Joel

    My wife was watching on a facebook feed. Seems like the same old shit to me.

    Emphasis on the old.

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    danielx

    @weaselone:

    Did not a majority of the long suffering citizens of Indiana who actually bothered to show up vote for Pence, or does Indiana have a strange law whereby only the residents of other states are permitted to vote in gubernatorial elections?

    Let’s just say there’s been a YOOGE amount of buyers’ remorse since the election – Pence hadn’t had much chance to show his predilection for stepping in his own shit as a member of Congress, but he’s shown his ass on a regular basis as the guv.

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