Come for the politics, stay for the snark.

There are more Russians standing up to Putin than Republicans.

A snarling mass of vitriolic jackals

T R E 4 5 O N

You cannot shame the shameless.

This fight is for everything.

If America since Jan 2025 hasn’t broken your heart, you haven’t loved her enough.

Human rights are not a matter of opinion!

Some judge needs to shut this circus down soon.

Technically true, but collectively nonsense

I might just take the rest of the day off and do even more nothing than usual.

When they say they are pro-life, they do not mean yours.

President Musk and Trump are both poorly raised, coddled 8 year old boys.

I desperately hope that, yet again, i am wrong.

Sitting here in limbo waiting for the dice to roll

Weird. Rome has an American Pope and America has a Russian President.

If you don’t believe freedom is for everybody, then the thing you love isn’t freedom, it is privilege.

They don’t have outfits that big. nor codpieces that small.

Well, whatever it is, it’s better than being a Republican.

Do we throw up our hands or do we roll up our sleeves? (hint, door #2)

It’s all just conspiracy shit beamed down from the mothership.

This isn’t Democrats spending madly. This is government catching up.

Jack be nimble, jack be quick, hurry up and indict this prick.

Take hopelessness and turn it into resilience.

There are times when telling just part of the truth is effectively a lie.

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My inner teenage comix geek still gets excited when new, diverse writers get top billing… especially when they’re highlighted in the NYTimes!

… Her story, written with Mr. [Ta-Nehisi] Coates, will follow Ayo and Aneka, two lovers who are former members of the Dora Milaje, the Black Panther’s female security force. “The opportunity to write black women and queer black women into the Marvel universe, there’s no saying no to that,” she said.

The first issue of World of Wakanda will include a 10-page second story by Ms. Harvey about Zenzi, a female revolutionary who incited a riot in the first issue of the Black Panther series. Mr. Coates, who recruited both writers, said he thought it was important to have female voices help breathe life into these characters. “The women in Black Panther’s life are very, very important,” he said…

Apart from celebrating a wider world inside our imaginations, what’s on the agenda for the evening?

(Yup, that’s great, too.)

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  2. 2.

    lamh36

    Yes… Comic Con thread…I was waiting or a general open thread!

    So I was not initially sold on Gail Gadot as Wonder Woman. But Wonder Woman was my first favorite comic superhero (I had the underoos for gawds sake), so I was always gonna be here for a solo film

    They premiered the trailer for Wonder Woman at Comic Con and mahn…that trailer is awesome. OMG, I’m so hyped for it now!

    WONDER WOMAN Comic-Con Trailer

  4. 4.

    Keith G

    Because I was scanning the tweets and the hashtags too quickly, I thought I read that John Lewis had won the Isengard Award.

  5. 5.

    Chris

    Open thread random question about the Democratic convention:

    I’ll be in Philadelphia next week visiting a cousin for a couple of days… which means I’ll be in town at the time of a presidential convention for my first time. Is there any part of the convention that’s open to the public and/or any events going on around the convention that’re worth going to? Seems a shame to be in the same town and pass it by altogether.

  7. 7.

    the Conster, la Citoyenne

    LOL at the tag ‘stuff about black people written by black people’. Had missed it before now. Another thing (among many) I love about this blog.

  8. 8.

    Mnemosyne

    @lamh36:

    I had to run and check IMDb to make sure Zak Snyder would not be directing and oh thank Christ, he is not. (It’s Patty Jenkins, who is probably best known for directing Charlize Theron to an Oscar in “Monster.”)

  13. 13.

    Brachiator

    @Mnemosyne: Bad enough, but could be worse.

    Jenkins directs the film from a screenplay by Allan Heinberg and Geoff Johns, story by Zack Snyder & Allan Heinberg,

  15. 15.

    Keith G

    @Chris: bet not. There might be an open air rally afterwards, but I doubt even that in the current security climate.

    I lived amongst the various venues when Houston had the GOP convention a while back. Much traffic. Not fun

    edit.
    I stand corrected as there are various caucus meeting prior to Monday’s opening gavel.

  17. 17.

    Pogonip

    I hope the agenda includes Cole posting a pucture of burrless Steve.

    Also, Dean the betta (named after my late father) has been with us a week and has already begun to get excited when he beholds The High Priestess of Dagon and Betta Bites, that is, me.

    Some bettas cost $30 these days! Dean is not one of them; he is $3.98 and quite pretty.

  18. 18.

    West of the Rockies (been a while)

    @lamh36:

    Oh, damn, WW does look super good! I like the mix of comedy and high action drama.

  20. 20.

    Schlemazel Khan

    @Chris:
    There does seem to be a bunch of people sitting in the upper bowl part of convention venues so it might be worthwhile to contact your local, or the PA Democratic offices and ask. The RNC was in St. Paul a couple conventions back but I had no desire to sit through that. The sure made traffic, even in Minneapolis, a mess. The only part I enjoyed was that the buses used to drag them around all came from one company, their name was printed on the side of each bus, “LAMERS”. It seem apropos.

  21. 21.

    Kropadope

    @lamh36:

    So I was not initially sold on Gail Gadot as Wonder Woman. But Wonder Woman was my first favorite comic superhero (I had the underoos for gawds sake), so I was always gonna be here for a solo film

    They premiered the trailer for Wonder Woman at Comic Con and mahn…that trailer is awesome. OMG, I’m so hyped for it now!

    She was probably the best part of Batman v Superman; mysterious, beautiful, and a kick-ass fighter. I’ve been pumped for the WW movie ever since, especially now that I’ve seen the trailer.

  22. 22.

    Chris

    @lamh36:
    @Kropadope:

    Yeah, what I’ve heard is that WW is the only worthwhile part of Batman v. Superman (I refused to pay for that in theaters, it just looked way too crappy to justify the expense, but I may still watch it if it gets to Netflix), and the idea of the World War One period piece setting sounds promising.

    @lgerard:
    @SiubhanDuinne:
    @Keith G:
    @Schlemazel Khan:

    Thanks y’all.

  23. 23.

    Mnemosyne

    @SiubhanDuinne:

    I was looking at the scheduled speakers and, dang, Hillary really is going all in on disability rights, isn’t she? That’s pretty cool.

    Also interesting that most of the economic/working people speakers are scheduled to speak the same day as Hillary does to maximize their exposure.

    And Berniebros won’t have any room to complain about his speaking spot: he’s right before Michelle Obama, and I know people (including me) will be tuning in to see her speak.

  24. 24.

    Chris

    From article:

    Still, one of Marvel’s goals, long established, is to have its characters and their creators reflect the world of today. Look to the Muslim Ms. Marvel, the black Captain America, the Korean-American Hulk and the female Thor, among other diverse heroes, for evidence. He wouldn’t be surprised, he said, if someone who looks like Riri writes her adventures one day.

    Haven’t read all of it (looking forward to TNC’s Black Panther when all of it’s collected into one book), but I can’t say enough good things about either the Kamala Khan comic or the Sam Wilson/Captain America comic.

    (Also, I thanked everybody for their convention suggestions in my last post, but that one got moderationed. So again, thanks everyone!)

  25. 25.

    Matt McIrvin

    @Mike J: God, that is depressing. So many of the cartoonists are all “both sides are equally evil liars”, including the very first one they talk to.

  26. 26.

    Iowa Old Lady

    @Matt McIrvin: That was my reaction too.

    I’m still thinking about the VP rollout. So, Clinton didn’t play “You Can’t Always Get What You Want.” She didn’t talk about herself for 25 minutes before introducing Kaine. And once she introduced him, she didn’t wander away and leave him on his own. The election has already come to the point where I notice those things and cheer for them. Sad!

  27. 27.

    Matt McIrvin

    @Iowa Old Lady: Of course, if the “both sides” guys are all the Republicans (I know at least one of them is), that puts the statement in a different light.

  29. 29.

    Kropadope

    Oh, saw the new Star Trek movie today, by the way. Very enjoyable. More action than the last two and a little less humor. My least preferred of the new movies, but still fun and worth at least the price of my IMAX tickets.

  30. 30.

    Mnemosyne

    @Ruviana:

    He is my imaginary future ex-husband. ?

    Look on YouTube for a series of videos he did with a friend of them re-enacting “Calvin and Hobbes” cartoons, with Daveed as Hobbes. You will fall in love, too.

  31. 31.

    gene108

    @lamh36:

    Dawn of Justice was so awful. I cannot get excited by any DC movies. I will have to wait until the reviews come out.

  32. 32.

    Feathers

    @lamh36: Wow. Really liked this. Switching the time period to WWI allows for a fresh visual look (for superhero movies) and the period was one of huge changes for the role of women (like getting the vote!). WWI can even roll with the steampunk. The English and American steampunk tend to be just the Victorian era, but the rest of the world stretches it to the long 19th century, French Revolution to WWI.

    Did not see Batman v. Superman. Will probably catch it when it starts streaming. It’s available for rent now, and I laughed when I saw that the cover art was Wonder Woman front and center, Bats and Supes behind. Did it really suck that bad?

  33. 33.

    Amanda in the South Bay

    I donated a fiver to the Clinton campaign this morning, my first ever campaign contribution.

  35. 35.

    Kropadope

    @Feathers: BvS was just OK. Not great, but certainly not deserving of a lot of the scorn it’s getting. They tried to do too much with too little time and abandoned one of the most interesting plot threads mid-movie. Oh, and yes, it’s out on video now.

  36. 36.

    Major Major Major Major

    More PC crap from the trigger-warning-happy freaks in Hollywood who will do anything for a dollar. Trying to sell out to the Black Lives Matter crowd. Sick. //

    Sorry, these new trolls make me kind of want to try it out!

  39. 39.

    Jeff Spender

    I just wanted to stop by and say that if you hadn’t seen it, the wikeleaks email dump also contains the credit card numbers and social security numbers of some donors.

  40. 40.

    SiubhanDuinne

    @Mnemosyne:

    And the schedule hasn’t even been updated yet to reflect Elizabeth Warren and Tim Kaine. Will probably be some other speakers announced in the next day or two.

    If I were there, I’d go to as many of those caucuses as I could manage every day. The big speeches, celebrity sightings, and balloon drops are great fun, but the ideas are going to be generated in those smaller interest-group sessions. That’s where state legislative agendas, local initiatives, and the Dem platforms for 2020 and beyond are going to be drafted.

  42. 42.

    lamh36

    @Feathers: I didn’t hate it, but it was nothing great, IMHO. Hightlight: Wonder Woman…”Batfleck” wasn’t bas as people thought.

  43. 43.

    Amanda in the South Bay

    @Andy: I sorta came back because BJ is one of the seemingly few left leaning sites not full of Bernie Bros or similar bullshittery.

  44. 44.

    Mnemosyne

    @SiubhanDuinne:

    Can I also say that I love that the schedule is filled with ordinary Americans and political stars, not D-list celebrities?

    I still think Bill’s new title should be First Gentleman, but I guess they’re going to be the ones who get to pick.

    ETA: And let’s go ahead and address the elephant in the room — every Democratic political wife is heaving a sigh of relief that she doesn’t have to be the one to try and fill Michelle Obama’s shoes once she’s gone. She raised the bar so high that they had to go 180 degrees in the opposite direction!

  48. 48.

    Kropadope

    @Mnemosyne:

    Can I also say that I love that the schedule is filled with ordinary Americans and political stars, not D-list celebrities?

    My favorite part was Scott Baio talking to “first time voters” about not just voting expecting to get free stuff. It definitely makes sense that according to Republican alt-world fantasy, Scott Baio really understands and can speak to the youth of America. Time stopped in 1984, after all.

  51. 51.

    gene108

    @Feathers:

    Did not see Batman v. Superman. Will probably catch it when it starts streaming. It’s available for rent now, and I laughed when I saw that the cover art was Wonder Woman front and center, Bats and Supes behind. Did it really suck that bad?

    Worse.

    It is the only movie, in which I decided to go take a bathroom break and debated whether or not to return or just walk out. I forced myself back in, ’cause I’d paid good money for those tickets.

  54. 54.

    Eric U.

    @Jeff Spender: the fact that they were passing social security numbers and credit card numbers around really pisses me off. I hope it was just DNC contributors.

  56. 56.

    Ultraviolet Thunder

    @Amanda in the South Bay:

    I donated a fiver to the Clinton campaign this morning, my first ever campaign contribution.

    We got a call from the Dems today. We’ll cut a check soon. Amount based on how much Trump has scared us at that particular point. If we can afford that much.

  58. 58.

    SiubhanDuinne

    @Mnemosyne:

    [Michelle Obama] raised the bar so high that they had to go 180 degrees in the opposite direction!

    Yes they did! Yes they did! Yes they did!

  59. 59.

    Ruckus

    @gene108:

    I forced myself back in, ’cause I’d paid good money for those tickets.

    Bet having paid good money didn’t make the show any better.

  60. 60.

    tsquared2001

    Yikes. Floating in the moderation sea simply because of user error.
    A little help, moderators.

  61. 61.

    Mnemosyne

    @Kropadope:

    You gotta admit, there’s no one better suited to lecturing people about “real life” than a guy who was a teen idol 30 years ago and has been living off that ever since.

  62. 62.

    germy

    @Kropadope: I thought individual scenes in BvS were great. The part where Batman pops out of the floor behind the “hostiles” waiting at the door, and that fight scene. I didn’t like that they tried to cram SO MUCH STUFF into one movie.

    I might like to see the new star trek beyond. Does it stand on its own as an individual movie, or will I be lost because I didn’t see the others in this reboot?

  63. 63.

    germy

    @Mnemosyne: Yes, isn’t the Actor’s Union he’s a member of very progressive about making sure people like him keep getting money for something he did thirty years ago?

  64. 64.

    Jeff Spender

    @efgoldman: I was diagnosed in May with nonrheunatic mitral valve stenosis. That, combined the aortic stenosis I’ve had since I was 10 have taken a toll on me.

    My campaign exists, just not to the extent I wish it could.

  67. 67.

    SiubhanDuinne

    @Ultraviolet Thunder:

    I tossed in $25 last night, and another the same this morning. Unfortunately, my finger apparently hiccuped and I ended up donating twice last night and twice today. Was kinda planning on holding back on three-figure donations until the fall. (This is the first campaign during which I’ve been retired/fixed income, and while I wish I could donate as lavishly as I did four and eight years ago, I have to be a bit more careful now. Is there a PowerBall coming up?)

  68. 68.

    SiubhanDuinne

    @Jeff Spender:

    Medical diagnostic terms always make me twitchy, even if there’s no need. I hope these diagnoses are relatively minor and easy to deal with. Wishing you well personally and politically.

  70. 70.

    gene108

    @Ruckus:

    It was still bad, but at least I have no lingering doubts to see it again to find out how it ends.

    Only other movie I walked out of was a foreign language film, either in Spanish or Italian. I was visiting my mom. She picked it. The description said it was about young lovers something, something traveling in Europe.

    The opening credits had the teens humping, buck naked on the edge of a bed. Very awkward watching that with mom sitting next to you. We got up and walked out in five minutes.

    Movie theater let see another movie that was just starting at no extra cost. We saw Enigma, about British efforts to break German code in the early part of WW2. Very nice film.

  71. 71.

    Kropadope

    @germy: It stands on its own. What few things are mentioned from the previous movies aren’t major factors in the plot. You can jump right in just as easily as you could watch any random episode of the show. Just know that the movies exist on their own timeline separate from the show.

  73. 73.

    Kropadope

    @gene108: I’ve walked out of three movies ever. The first ever was National Treasure which, mercifully, I had free tickets for. I also walked out of two Heath Ledger movies in the same day. Casanova looked funny from the trailers, but I got bored watching it. So I went to see Brokeback Mountain and found myself wishing I hadn’t left the first movie.

  74. 74.

    justawriter

    @Kropadope: Baio got the spillover love from being introduced as Fonzie’s nephew on Happy Days.
    This, along with the recent death of Garry Marshall, got me to thinking about those old shows. The dad in Happy Days ran a hardware store. Archie Bunker worked in a factory and then owned a bar. The parents in Good Times were a laid off construction worker and a housekeeper. Laverne and Shirley worked on the bottling line in a brewery. Maude’s husband owned an appliance store. Sanford and Son were junk dealers. Chico and the Man were mechanics. Alice waitressed in Mel’s Diner.
    I don’t watch much mainstream TV anymore (mostly Syfy and BBCA) so I am woefully out of date with pop culture. But I’m hard pressed to think of that many current shows with blue collar main characters. Are there popular shows out there that aren’t about doctors, lawyers, cops, firemen or brilliant eccentric crime solvers?

  75. 75.

    Jim, Foolish Literalist

    I don’t get in twitter fights, but I think this is close enough to a lot of blog chatter to be funny

    Saladin Ahmed ‏@ saladinahmed 10h10 hours ago
    hey I just met you

    and this is crazy

    but I’m going to argue with another stranger in your mentions

    for hours maybe

  77. 77.

    Hal

    Funny. I just finished watching Batman vs Superman. The first hour of this 2 and 1/2 hour movie is boring as fuck. Once they get into the battle scenes it gets exciting and fun, but that’s largely because of Wonder Woman. Why they didn’t use her way more in this film is beyond me. As one review mentioned there is a scene where WW is literally using an atm. That’s how little they used the character.

    Just way too much squeezed into one film and I do not like Ben Affleck as Batman. Zack Snyder is a comic book nihilist who seems to strive to take all the fun and excitement out of these characters.

  81. 81.

    Amir Khalid

    @Hal:
    Zack Snyder has made two Superman movies without using John William’s Superman March, without which no Supes movie can truly soar. Man of Steel was a glum exercise in city demolition in which Henry Cavill never cracked a smile. I wasn’t very keen on seeing Batman vs Superman, and it seems I was right.

  83. 83.

    Omnes Omnibus

    @justawriter: It is much more common in half-hour sit-coms than in hour long dramas. If you think back, that was the case in the ’70s and ’80s.

  86. 86.

    Gator90

    So I got to meet HRC after today’s rally, due to my wife’s volunteer work for the campaign in South Florida. Just a quick hello, handshake and photo, but it was pretty neat.

  92. 92.

    Sherparick

    Terry McAuliffe has not always been popular on this blog, but again he proves that the worse Democrat is light years better then the best Republican in the current environment.

    http://www.eschatonblog.com/2016/07/tired-hand.html

    https://twitter.com/GovernorVA/status/756665084252975105/photo/1

    The right wing jerks who taunt him are so dense as they work with McAuliffe to drive up the African-American turnout in Virginia and make sure it becomes 95% Democratic.

  98. 98.

    satby

    Since SiubhanDuinne asked about WereBear yesterday, it reminded me she was doing a fundraiser a while ago on her blog. So I went and kicked in a bit here
    in case anyone also wanted to say hi that way ?

  100. 100.

    Mike J

    @Gator90:

    So I got to meet HRC after today’s rally, due to my wife’s volunteer work for the campaign in South Florida. Just a quick hello, handshake and photo, but it was pretty neat.

    Did you note that she is a whiz with a phone, any phone? She can walk down a rope line, take one phone after another from each person, and shoot a selfie with the ownerfaster than the phone’s owner could.

  104. 104.

    justawriter

    @Omnes Omnibus: That could be it. But The Waltons and The Rockford Files were hour shows as were the high school teacher shows The White Shadow and Lucas Tanner.

  105. 105.

    Gator90

    @Baud: One thing she’s quite good at is appearing absolutely thrilled to meet totally unimportant people (like the nobody husband of a local volunteer). I guess that’s a useful skill for a politician.

  109. 109.

    Jeffro

    I’m going to get Lewis’ whole series and leave it out for my kids, who happily devour all things ‘graphic novel’ while knocking out some serious Cheerios every morning. They can thank me when they’re older ;)

  114. 114.

    Brachiator

    @Mnemosyne:

    Meh. “Story by” just means that Snyder had the initial idea, and then people who know WTF they’re doing went off and did the actual work of writing it

    Snyder and his wife Debra are also producers of the film. They have had a heavy hand in setting up the first DC movies of this reboot incarnation, including the upcoming Justice League and Aquaman films. Aside from Jenkins, it is not yet clear that any of these dopes know what they are doing, compared to the relatively well oiled Marvel machine.

  115. 115.

    Omnes Omnibus

    @Baud:

    That might have been my undoing. My deep seated sociopathy.

    No, it is your inability to hide it.

  122. 122.

    Amanda in the South Bay

    I see that Gawker has turned into a PR arm for the Wikileaks ratfuckery.

  126. 126.

    Amanda in the South Bay

    @Baud: they apparently must have some source of funds to pay their writers, even if it’s a pittance.

  127. 127.

    ruemara

    San Diego Juicer meet up & shenaniganing was a success, last night. Will post pics once my feet recover from walking every inch of the San Diego Zoo.

  128. 128.

    Jeffro

    OT but just for fun: was thinking of all the folks who the media thought were going to have an impact on this election, whose opinions COUNTED, dang it, but have since dropped off the radar…

    …Jim Webb, for instance. Have we checked in with Jim lately, post-RNC convention, to see what he thinks of his choices in November?

  130. 130.

    Technocrat

    OT, but can this election get any weirder:

    Trump & Putin. Yes, It’s Really a Thing

    At a minimum, Trump appears to have a deep financial dependence on Russian money from persons close to Putin. And this is matched to a conspicuous solicitousness to Russian foreign policy interests where they come into conflict with US policies which go back decades through administrations of both parties. There is also something between a non-trivial and a substantial amount of evidence suggesting Putin-backed financial support for Trump or a non-tacit alliance between the two men

    I can’t even with this

  131. 131.

    Ruckus

    Just talked to a long time buddy. He is getting ready to evacuate his house due to a very rapidly spreading fire in socal. I live 30 miles away and yesterday walked outside at about 7pm not knowing about any fire, to find thick smoke and ash all over the place, with the sky all red. Figured there had to be a fire not more than 5 miles away, not 35, but of course it’s not all that far from my friend. This would be the 3rd time over the last 22 yrs they have had to get out, the first 2 times they lost their house to fire. So far 11,000 acres have burned, the temp in the area is 108, humidity is 10%. This is at least the third major fire in the general area in the last 4 months.

  134. 134.

    I'mNotSureWhoIWantToBeYet

    @Jeff Spender: Why on Earth does the DNC have donor’s Social Security numbers on an e-mail server? When I donate I’m not asked to provide that information.

    Did some employment database get mixed up with donor info?

    Are there different rules for Americans Abroad, or donors that max out to the party, or something?

    What’s the skinny – does anyone know? It doesn’t make any sense to me.

    Thanks.

    Cheers,
    Scott.
    (Who isn’t going to give them any clicks, for various reasons…)

  141. 141.

    MomSense

    @SiubhanDuinne:

    I thinking of making a trek to see a video showing of Rigoletto from Opera Bastille tomorrow. I’m guessing you might give me the encouragement I need to drive South on a Sunday (when all the tourists are driving home).

  142. 142.

    MomSense

    @Andy:

    I’ve never experienced a wildfire thank dog as I’m surrounded by woods but I talked to someone who kept my old house from burning down during the “great fire” in Maine in 1947. From his description of it being scarier than anything he experienced in WW II, I never want to.

  143. 143.

    Ruckus

    @Iowa Old Lady:
    @MomSense:
    I’m in no danger, 4 major cities would have to burn to the ground first and make Dresden look like a picnic in the park. My friend is an old hand at this by now. The first time I lived about a mile from them and went over to find them standing in the street about 3 blocks from their house, after getting out with their 2 cats, both cars and the clothes on their backs. That was about 2 hrs after the Northridge earthquake in 94, which destroyed my business and their house. Fun times.

  144. 144.

    I'mNotSureWhoIWantToBeYet

    @Sherparick: Terry has done a great job as Governor with a very poor hand (too many Teabaggers in the legislature, the Supreme Court being packed). They’re going to regret challenging him on this issue, if there’s any justice…

    Cheers,
    Scott.

  146. 146.

    Andy

    @MomSense: OMG, …..I went home to Colorado Springs after the supposed “Hayman Fire” disaster. You know what the real disasters was ? We still cannot access the the area. Gov’t B.S. has kept the average citizen from hiking the trails, and being part of the Colorado experience.

  147. 147.

    SiubhanDuinne

    @MomSense:

    I have a huge affection for Rigoletto. It was one of the first operas I ever saw live, and definitely the first at the Met, back in late ’60s/early ’70s. Don’t know anything about the production you plan to see, but the music is glorious. Do it, and report back.

    Added in edit: I’ve seen probably at least half a dozen different productions since then, live and in the cinema. You can’t get around Verdi’s incredible music. It is wonderful.

  148. 148.

    redshirt

    @Amir Khalid:

    Zack Snyder has made two Superman movies without using John William’s Superman March, without which no Supes movie can truly soar. Man of Steel was a glum exercise in city demolition in which Henry Cavill never cracked a smile. I wasn’t very keen on seeing Batman vs Superman, and it seems I was right.

    Dark ‘n gritty is Snyder’s reason for being. I’ve heard his version of Superman and the rest of the DC heroes as the “Murderverse”. It fits. This is not your Father’s hopeful, optimistic Superman.

  151. 151.

    Mnemosyne

    @Ruckus:

    I have three coworkers who live near the fire area, so I’m a little concerned about them. Down here, it looks like a foggy day outside — huge cloud of smoke hanging in the air.

    (But I’m about 15 miles away from the fire through populated areas, so if somehow the fire got down here, that quite frankly would almost be the least of our problems.)

  152. 152.

    Ruckus

    @Mnemosyne:

    (But I’m about 15 miles away from the fire through populated areas, so if somehow the fire got down here, that quite frankly would almost be the least of our problems.)

    And I’m another 15-20 miles away than you so yeah, least of our problems. As I said I used to live a mile away from my friend and that was in the direction of the fire. Very rough terrain off the paved areas, almost impossible to even hike in when not on fire. Right now they are mostly only able to fight with aircraft and haven’t been able to get a fire break started.

  153. 153.

    Ruckus

    @MomSense:
    Sounds like Andy has never heard anything other than what comes out of his ass. He’s making friends on the next thread as well.

  155. 155.

    Quinerly

    @Baud:
    I have been lucky. Have met Carter, Clinton, and Obama. Met Teddy Kennedy in 1982 in DC when he stopped me and complemented me on my dress (I kid you not.) Life be good.

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