Come for the politics, stay for the snark.

Is it negotiation when the other party actually wants to shoot the hostage?

Republicans are radicals, not conservatives.

Insiders who complain to politico: please report to the white house office of shut the fuck up.

Republicans don’t want a speaker to lead them; they want a hostage.

Technically true, but collectively nonsense

We’ve had enough carrots to last a lifetime. break out the sticks.

It’s time for the GOP to dust off that post-2012 autopsy, completely ignore it, and light the party on fire again.

Republicans seem to think life begins at the candlelight dinner the night before.

Damn right I heard that as a threat.

The truth is, these are not very bright guys, and things got out of hand.

Schmidt just says fuck it, opens a tea shop.

🎶 Those boots were made for mockin’ 🎵

Not all heroes wear capes.

Infrastructure week. at last.

Putting aside our relentless self-interest because the moral imperative is crystal clear.

People are complicated. Love is not.

The words do not have to be perfect.

You can’t love your country only when you win.

I was promised a recession.

Sadly, there is no cure for stupid.

Only Democrats have agency, apparently.

A Senator Walker would be an insult to the state and the nation.

I’d try pessimism, but it probably wouldn’t work.

It’s the corruption, stupid.

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  1. 1.

    Jim, Foolish Literalist

    anybody know what time Biden is supposed to speak? The schedule is pretty vague

  2. 2.

    Trentrunner

    I will crawl over broken glass to vote for Hillary but if I have to hear that fuckin Fight Song one more time I will cut a Trump.

  7. 7.

    dmsilev

    Last night: The previous Democratic President
    Tonight: The current Democratic President
    Tomorrow: The next Democratic President

  10. 10.

    lamh36

    I remember her.

    She was looking for her son and his boyfriend.

    The video went viral. She later learned they both had died :-(

  11. 11.

    Mnemosyne

    OH crap. It’s gun violence time.

    Just when I’d gotten my nose clear after the mother of the Orlando victim spoke. But it was such a wonderful, wonderful visual that she had those two young men supporting her through the whole thing.

    (I assume they are friends of her son’s since she said he was an only child.)

  12. 12.

    dmsilev

    Apparently days 1 and 2 of the DNC got higher TV viewerships than the corresponding RNC days. Apparently Michelle Obama, Bernie Sanders, and Bill Clinton were bigger draws than the general manager of Trump Winery and some washed up TV actors. Who knew?

  13. 13.

    lamh36

    @bago: 3 big speeches tonight they want in the primetime hour

    Biden, Kaine, and Obama

    And I suspect they want folks to not be getting ready to turn into bed when Obama speaks

  14. 14.

    Mnemosyne

    @bago:

    I laughed when Jerry Brown said, “Guys, I only have five minutes, I’ve gotta get through this!”

    Like I said below, showing Bernie that Jerry is the OG Cranky Old Liberal White Man.

  17. 17.

    NotMax

    OT:

    Feel the need to mention the death of Jack Davis, aged 91.

    A cartoonist of consummate skill. You’ve seen his work on countless movie posters, MAD, Time and TV Guide covers, etc., etc., etc. One example.

    Now back to your regularly scheduled blog.

  18. 18.

    guachi

    Man, Christopher Leinonen’s mother knocked it out of the park.

    Got the crowd shushed and then crying. Should have moved her to prime time. She’s great.

  20. 20.

    Miss Bianca

    Missed Big Dawg last night – gotta Youtube his speech, it sounds sweet – but want to catch the some of the action live tonight!

  23. 23.

    Quinerly

    Ratings are out. Dem Convention beat Repug Hate Fest by several million on Monday. Preliminary calculations for last night appear to be the same. Loved Harry Reid and Jerry Brown’s speeches. And how about that mom whose son was killed in the Orlando nightclub shooting. Strong!

  24. 24.

    Miss Bianca

    @NotMax: Oh no, I loved Jack Davis’s work for MAD! And didn’t he do the original “Bad News Bears” poster?

  27. 27.

    singfoom

    Did the RNC have any of these “regular people”? speakers / bio videos? Didn’t watch the whole thing. Loving their use of normal citizens to open up the discussion / policy points for various issues.

    Very good way to connect to people.

  33. 33.

    Mary G

    This is amazeballs. I have never seen a political event more inspiring and effective. I may go through a box of Kleenex listening to these stories.

  34. 34.

    dmsilev

    It’s nutpicking, I know, but Trump is doing a Reddit AMA at some point tonight, and here is the lead-in to one of the questions:

    America has a proud tradition of stealing the most brilliant and talented people from countries around the world for ourselves. Albert Einstein, Wernher von Braun, Arnold Schwarzenegger, Melania Trump… the list goes on and on.

    My eyes rolled so hard I think I sprained something.

  35. 35.

    Mnemosyne

    @lamh36:

    Nice! Be sure to let Anne Laurie know what day might work for a meetup and we’ll see if we can put one together. We had about 8 people at the last one.

  37. 37.

    singfoom

    @raven: Ok, I guess that’s the one example I can think of, but Benghazi isn’t a policy platform point , just a BS scandal grievance point.

  40. 40.

    raven

    @singfoom: They had a parade of Benghazi people it’s just that we are right and they are wrong. That’s the name of that tune.

  41. 41.

    Keith P.

    Lost my job today while recovering from heart failure over the weekend. Was hoping to be able to rearrange my work schedule to accommodate working remotely, but I was literally just hooked up to dialysis when I got a call terminating me.
    In case anyone was wondering, I did call the Houston Citizen Asst line and was told they only deal with civil stuff, and it doesn’t matter anyway because the company can make up any reason to fire me (literally told me I would have to prove they fired me because I was in the hospital). In a state of shock, but if anyone has any suggestions (preferably not “sue”, as I am in a very weakened state and don’t think I’d live through that much stress) to get some kind of relief, I’m all ears.

  43. 43.

    japa21

    @singfoom: Plus, our issue wasn’t with Smith it was with her being used the way she was. She was used to make a personal attack on Clinton, not to discuss terrorism.

  44. 44.

    Mnemosyne

    @raven:

    I actually felt sorry for Smith’s mother because unscrupulous people convinced her of a lie and then put her up on international TV to continue to spread the lie.

  46. 46.

    MomSense

    @JPL:

    One of the women I follow on Twitter just posted that her 7 year old told her that if he gets shot he wants her to go up there and talk to people too.

  49. 49.

    Miss Bianca

    @Keith P.: oh, holy crap! I have no advice but to say, “get a lawyer”, if you can, even if you don’t want to sue. And condolences on your bad fortune – I am so, so sorry to hear it.

    @MomSense: Oh, that is just heart-rending.

  52. 52.

    Quinerly

    @Baud:
    Good news! I do love math! 26 million(Dems)vs 23 million(Repugs) viewership for Mon; 24 vs 19 million for Tues. Great post up at Washington Monthly on why Trump might not be able to attack Michelle. Short version: she gets to him and he knows she’s way too good and out of his league.

  55. 55.

    Mnemosyne

    @Keith P.:

    Keith G might have some advice, but I’m not sure if he’ll be back tonight. He’s been dealing with the local healthcare apparatus for years now, and since they work with AIDS patients, they may be able to help with other kinds of discrimination.

    ETA: Also, I’m assuming there’s a university with a law school. Call them and ask them to refer you to a pro bono lawyer who deals with disability rights. Even Texas is not allowed to discriminate against disabled people.

  58. 58.

    PsiFighter37

    I’ve been somewhat shellshocked after Trump basically called for Russia to try and hack us.

    Seriously, fuck that guy. And even more, fuck the GOP for being so craven about wanting power that they won’t run away from him like he’s a radioactive turd.

  59. 59.

    Omnes Omnibus

    @Keith P.: Contact a lawyer who practices employment law. I am not saying that you should sue, but talk to someone, tell them everything about your situation, and then find out what your options are in your state.

  60. 60.

    Trentrunner

    Reuters is reporting that Wikileaks has just released DNCommittee voicemails.

    Nothing more yet.

  62. 62.

    singfoom

    @Keith P.: Man, sympathies. Especially when it happened with you hooked up to the dialysis machine. Who was the caller? Someone in HR? I’m not an attorney so I won’t give any legal advice, I’m sure someone can chime in on that.

    I’d call your employer and talk to your direct manager and explain the situation. Texas is a “right to work” state, right? Definitely file for unemployment immediately even if you decide to try to fight it.

  63. 63.

    JPL

    @Keith P.: That sucks.. GA is a right to work state which means a right to fire state, and I assume TX is. Words no longer have any meaning. Worry about your health first, and then worry about the future. You might call a news station and share your story. That sometimes helps.

  64. 64.

    eclare

    @Miss Bianca: Agree, just speak to an attorney to see if you have a case. There should be plenty who would talk with you at no charge to see.

  66. 66.

    guachi

    @Kropadope:

    Did they post a live stream for day 3? Guess I’m king for myself.

    demconvention dot com slash live

    It’s a fantastic high quality live feed. The YouTube feed is pretty bad. At least for me it is.

  67. 67.

    debbie

    @gogol’s wife:

    I’ve been waiting for you to post. I saw your comment earlier today about Putin supporters and wondered if you knew what they thought was Russia’s “Golden Age.”

  72. 72.

    Betty Cracker

    @lamh36: I saw that live on the news, I think. Utterly heartbreaking. Glad Angela Bassett reminded us about the Confederate flag coming down after Charleston. It’s not enough, but it’s something. Never thought I’d see that hateful rag come down. Gives me hope that other things can change.

  73. 73.

    gogol's wife

    @debbie:

    It’s 85% of the country, so they have a lot of different opinions, I’m sure! There’s a lot of nostalgia for “empire,” whether Soviet or Tsarist.

  76. 76.

    lamh36

    @PsiFighter37: saw you comment over at BT…and like you I was amazed that so many regular commenters over there was shoo shoo-ing what Trump said and Boo’s analysis…just to spew anti-HRC mess…smh

  77. 77.

    singfoom

    @Keith P.: In addition man, kidney disease is a bitch. Don’t let this stress you out more than you already are. Don’t know your specific story, but I assume you’re already on the UNOS list for your state? Keep fighting and stay strong.

  81. 81.

    Quinerly

    @Mnemosyne:
    Smith’s mother has made a cottage industry out of her grief. I’m sorry her son died in Benghazi while doing his job. She has been traveling around the country for years as a speaker on the wingnut circle. She wasn’t used by the RNC the other night, in my opinion.

  82. 82.

    SiubhanDuinne

    @dmsilev:

    Last night: The previous Democratic President
    Tonight: The current Democratic President
    Tomorrow: The next Democratic President

    ♥️?♥️?♥️?♥️?♥️?♥️?♥️?♥️?♥️

  83. 83.

    Mnemosyne

    @Trentrunner:

    Of course they did. Because this convention is rockin’ it, and now they’re scared they’re not going to be able to divide Democrats like they thought they could.

  84. 84.

    Keith P.

    Thanks everyone for the well-wishes. This has been a rough year as well as rough decade (I started dialysis in 2011). Most years are thankfully uneventful, but this one has been like a lifetime of karmic transgressions coming due one after another. I come here quite often, as I can read the posts and comments and feel a bit normal. But this past week has pushed me further than I thought I was capable of going. I though rock bottom was the week after my house flooded, when the gas company shut my gas off after they spontaneously changed my account and stopped autopaying. But that just served to take a little more out of me.
    I’m frankly exhausted by this stuff. I had my vascular surgeon tell me chemo patients have it easier, but thought he was being a bit silly. Then I started seeing the level that society will grind you down if you don’t advertise your illness on your head. Not very inspirational, but it is devastating that when you’re down, so many find ways to ride you on the way.

  86. 86.

    PhoenixRising

    @MomSense: Yup. Last night my 16yo asked if that is why we haven’t let her take her road test yet. When I said yes, she said: Well, I know you’re not going to be up there talking about God if that happened to me, you’re going to burn shit down.

    And the terrible part is, she’s right. And it is the whitest thing about me.

  87. 87.

    debbie

    @Keith P.:

    I’m definitely not a lawyer, but I know there’s such a thing as wrongful termination. You might start by checking out your state’s Department of Labor website.

  88. 88.

    dmsilev

    @Trentrunner: They’ve got a stub of a story up; it’s kind of weird:

    WikiLeaks released files on Wednesday of what it said were audio recordings pulled from the emails of the Democratic National Committee that were obtained by hacking its servers.

    Who emails voicemails to each other?

    Edit: link

  94. 94.

    David ?▶️Hillary/Harley Quinn 2016▶️? Koch

    Mark Knoller ‏@markknoller

    Aides say @POTUS has been through 6 drafts of tonight’s speech over past week. Stayed up til 3AM rewriting after watching @FLOTUS speech.

    206 retweets 266 likes

    Mark Knoller ‏@markknoller

    Aides say Pres Obama planning intense month of campaigning in October to get out the vote for @HillaryClinton.

    48 retweets 73 likes

  95. 95.

    Trentrunner

    @dmsilev: I know my work email automatically emails me a message with the voicemail embedded in the message, so I can play it from any device.

  98. 98.

    NotMax

    Am I the only one bothered by the background on the screen at the convention? It sure looks (on the TV) like they built a wall.

    Subliminal messaging?

  100. 100.

    PsiFighter37

    Such a shame what happened…she should’ve been the current junior senator from Arizona right now.

  102. 102.

    Mnemosyne

    @Omnes Omnibus:

    As a lawyer, do you think he’s better off with an employment or disability lawyer since he was laid off while on dialysis? Or does he start with the employment lawyer and they determine the best route?

    I want to make sure he listens to you and not to me since IANAL. ?

  103. 103.

    JPL

    OMG.. I’m imagining momsense chopping onions, and shedding tears.. Gabby’s progress is amazing.
    you go girl.

  105. 105.

    Tilda Swinton's Bald Cap

    Chuck Todd defends Trump’s call for cyberattack on Clinton: ‘We do espionage against Russia’

    Here’s the link.

  106. 106.

    eric

    did you motherfuckers know that there is a cottage industry of you tube videos claiming that Orlando was a hoax and Christine Leinonen is an actor? dont go look if you havent already. but the fucking motherfucking fuck!

  107. 107.

    sigaba

    @dmsilev: “Who emails voicemails to each other?”

    I’ve known some Asterix and virtual PBX systems that would send you your voicemails as MP3s. Didn’t Google Voice do this too?

  109. 109.

    TriassicSands

    @dmsilev:

    Your contempt for D-list celebrities is just sad and mean. They can’t help it if they have no talent and are supporting Trump because he’s promised to give them all prominent roles in his 2017 reality show “The Trump Presidency — Inside the Oval Office Where the Sausage Is Made.”

  112. 112.

    lamh36

    I see some Broadway stars singing!!!

    Is Lin Manuel supposed to show up to this shindig?

  113. 113.

    Omnes Omnibus

    @Mnemosyne: It’s about the employment situation. I would start with an employment lawyer. A good one would know how a disability (even a “temporary” one) would affect his situation.

  114. 114.

    SiubhanDuinne

    I just schooled a youngish (~26) man who was absolutely sure that Trump had it in the bag in November because “Assange has all of Hillary’s emails.”

  116. 116.

    West of the Rockies (been a while)

    @singfoom:

    They had a couple angry vets flinging monkey poo and the mother of another blaming HRC for Benghazi.

  117. 117.

    lamh36

    ‏@DanaHoule now3 seconds ago
    It will take every tiny shred of self-control Trump has to not mock Gabby Giffords’ speech

    I suspect the campaign may me monitoring his account to delete shit real quick.

  118. 118.

    sigaba

    @lamh36:

    Is Lin Manuel supposed to show up to this shindig?

    I was wondering about this, this seems like his scene.

  120. 120.

    jenn

    @Keith P.: I am so sorry, that is terrible. I echo the advice to talk to a lawyer, talk to the owner/manager – and if those things fail, consider taking your story public. Getting fired in that fashion is.not.right. Best wishes, and best of luck.

  122. 122.

    hovercraft

    This is what you call a show Donald, it’s got heart, and excitement, and it’s about bringing people together.

  123. 123.

    gogol's wife

    @sigaba:

    Audra McDonald, Ben Vereen, Tyne Daly, Wicked lady, Brian Stokes Mitchell, but I don’t see anyone from Hamilton.

  126. 126.

    Elmo

    @Keith P.:
    “Right to work” just means you can’t be required to pay union dues as a condition of employment. “At will” employment is the norm in the US, but all that means is you can be fired for any reason as long as it isn’t the wrong reason. And firing somebody for a real or perceived disability is definitely a “wrong reason.”

    Do these things in no particular order but do them NOW:

    (1) Call HR and ask for a formal termination letter setting forth the reason for your dismissal.
    (2) Contact an employment discrimination attorney.
    (3) Contact the EEOC.

    The EEOC will sometimes bring suit in their own name on behalf of an aggrieved employee, but more often they engage in a mediation process you might find more congenial than litigation.

  130. 130.

    Shalimar

    Ok, the Fight Song video required more coordination and effort than Trump’s team put into the entire RNC convention.

  132. 132.

    Mnemosyne

    @lamh36:

    He’s in Puerto Rico right now, but I know he was part of the original recording.

    Me, I’m hoping that Christopher Jackson gets a nice solo showcase.

  134. 134.

    jl

    @dmsilev:

    ” Chuck Todd is the living embodiment of the Peter Principle. ”

    Need to start writing them. Talk about switching them off and telling your circle to do likewise until they stop apologizing for covering Trump’s ass.
    I write repeatedly about a CBS ad that implicitly gave credence to his lie that he opposed the Iraq war back when the decision was made. That ad is gone now. Maybe due to complaints, maybe due to regular rotation. But complaining doesn’t hurt.

    Maybe Sanders can start up an election campaign media watch dog organization. Would suit that grouchy old coot’s talents.

  135. 135.

    lamh36

    @CharlesMBlow 50s51 seconds ago
    Crowd chanting, “love trumps hate!” #DemsinPhilly

  137. 137.

    hovercraft

    Talk about a buzz kill, from that beautiful montage to the great america pact benghazi commercial.

  140. 140.

    lamh36

    Love this majority Republican slam ad against Trump on foreign policy
    #DemsInPhilly #DemConvention ,

  141. 141.

    SiubhanDuinne

    @Keith P.:

    Keith, what kind of support group do you have? Family, friends, church/faith or community organization? I don’t want you to be dealing with all this on your own. We’re good folks here, but you need someone(s) near at hand.

  144. 144.

    TriassicSands

    Gee, I can’t tell the difference between the Republican and Democratic conventions. it’s like they’re clones.

  147. 147.

    bk

    @Keith P.: Could be a violation of the Americans With Disabilities Act, which even Texas employers are subjected to. As others have said, I would speak to an employment law attorney.

  151. 151.

    Anoniminous

    @Keith P.:

    That effin’ sucks. I am really very sorry to hear what you are going through and I trust you will regain your health.

  152. 152.

    West of the Rockies (been a while)

    @Mnemosyne:

    You notice though that the Benghazi! piss and moaners were all about blame and retribution whereas the BLM Mothers and others were about forgiveness, improving the system, and making things better?

  154. 154.

    Quinerly

    @eric:
    Same with Sandy Hook. There was a college professor promoting his false flag theory and harassing the parents of one child. I think he finally lost his job. That nutcase Alex Jones (Info Wars…had the “Hillary for Prison van in Philly Mon that the Bernie supporters were cheering and working themselves in a lather over) also believes Sandy Hook didn’t happen and was staged. He’s all buddy buddy with Trump. I really shouldn’t get started on this…but I am mad as hell that the press doesn’t ask Trump about Jones and Sandy Hook.

  155. 155.

    D58826

    @raven: If you can’t tell the difference between they way the GOP used Mrs Smith and the relatives from Sandy Hook and Emanuel AME, then there is no sense in even engaging with you.

    That segment was horrible to watch. I can’t even begin to imagine their pain

  158. 158.

    tobie

    @Keith P.: So sorry to hear this. May your employer roast in hell.

    You do need a lawyer, and if you can’t afford one, you should call the Texas Bar Association. Most big firms will donate a certain number of pro bono hours for tax relief. State and local bar associations usually know about this. And they also host an open house for free lawyer consultation once a month. You’re not in any position to go now but maybe someone could go for you to find out your options. This is just terrible.

    Wishing you a speedy recovery.

  160. 160.

    NickM

    @Keith P.: You should talk to a lawyer immediately. There must be contingency fee attorneys who would be willing to listen to your story and tell you what they think. Try to find someone good and professional. There are a lot of bottom feeders who may not have clients’ interests at heart. I don’t know how you’d go about finding one – is there a yelp for attorneys?

    If you think you can’t manage that, at least call the local EEOC and speak to someone there.

    Your former employer is in some jeopardy I think. They should be willing to do something for you to make you go away without suing or without going all the way with a suit. It is totally worth a shot. They’ve treated you badly and they should pay – try to get everything you can. Good luck.

  163. 163.

    dmsilev

    “That’s not Law and Order; that’s Criminal Intent”

    Heh.

    (re: Trumps …thing this morning)

  167. 167.

    Emma

    @dmsilev: My phone defaults to something called a video voicemail. Nobody uses it so all I get is the regular voice track.

  169. 169.

    lamh36

    @MomSense: Oh…I know…I follow him on twitter, but he was apart of the recording of that broadway tribute so I just thought of him

  170. 170.

    Lizzy L

    “She has the experience, the temperament, and the spine to be the President of the United States.”

    YES.

  171. 171.

    D58826

    I can’t imagine the pain those families must feel and yet they call for love and forgiveness. Not sure I could do it,

  174. 174.

    Mary G

    @Keith P.: When the shit rains, it pours. I’ve been following your flooding problems and now this firing makes me furious. If you need any money, I hope you’ll put up a GoFundMe and let us know. I can’t do much alone, but to borrow a phrase, we Juicers are stronger together. You aren’t alone.

  176. 176.

    Keith P.

    @Omnes Omnibus: That’s a shame, but it seems like really all I can do. My preferred resolution is for this to be on the evening news about how shitty these people are (my boss himself had recently recovered from liver failure, so I can’t believe he’d do something like this; I strongly suspect a particular recruiter at the consulting firm). Unfortunately, I don’t believe I’m going to be able to see it through; it’s hard to effectively tell people when you know your health has turned a bad corner, but I’ve already come to accept the strong likelihood that this will be my last year.

  180. 180.

    Chris

    @gogol’s wife:

    It’s 85% of the country, so they have a lot of different opinions, I’m sure! There’s a lot of nostalgia for “empire,” whether Soviet or Tsarist.

    I have a friend who used to study Russian/Soviet history in college, and according to him, Putin’s leaning on fairly generic nationalism and nostalgia. Rooting for Russian Orthodox religion *and* pining for the days of the USSR simultaneously, that sort of thing. As near as I can tell it’s the same basic incoherent yearnings that, closer to home, powered Brexit and the Trump campaign.

  181. 181.

    cckids

    @NotMax:

    Am I the only one bothered by the background on the screen at the convention? It sure looks (on the TV) like they built a wall.

    It’s supposed to be an ultra close-up of a flag (I believe); showing how the threads weave together to create the whole cloth.

    I see it easily because I’m a fiber/weaving person. It may not translate well for everyone.

  182. 182.

    SiubhanDuinne

    @Keith P.:

    Also, make sure Richard Mayhew is aware of your situation. You might want to check the Balloon Juice feed and repost your comment tomorrow when RM usually has active threads up.

  184. 184.

    Quinerly

    Digging this retired rear admiral. We need to get him out there speaking at those VFW Halls. In other news, I love seeing our Potus getting on and off Air Force One. Nice that MSNBC showed it.

  185. 185.

    lamh36

    PBO on his way to Andrews AFB…Ya’ll, I’m not ready for either @VP or @POTUS to give their LAST convention speeches as sitting VP/POTUS. Makes it too real that it’s almost over.

    #KeepItTogether

  186. 186.

    the Conster, la Citoyenne

    Steve Benen
    ‏@stevebenen

    It’s hard not to wonder how John McCain must feel, knowing he receives more respect from DNC delegates than RNC delegates.

  190. 190.

    I'mNotSureWhoIWantToBeYet

    @Smiling Mortician: There was a shot on CSPAN that showed a woman yelling at another group in the audience. I don’t think they were shouting him down. Still don’t know what the two groups were yelling, though.

    Cheers,
    Scott.

  191. 191.

    hovercraft

    @Baud:
    Yes he was.
    What were the yahoos chanting?
    And yes I saw the commercial on msnbc, but I’m watching cnn.

    Ia anyone else having their comments eaten?

  197. 197.

    NotMax

    The beige cheek microphones MSNBC is employing are just wrong.

    Trying to pretend (white) people aren’t miked is ludicrous.

  202. 202.

    Schlemazel Khan

    @hovercraft:
    All the time. There are magic words that get comments eaten. I have gotten to the point I copy every comment before hitting submit do if it gets eaten I can go back & try to guess which word it verboten

  204. 204.

    Kay

    @Quinerly:

    Sanders delegates were trying to get someone let into the arena, which is on secret service lockdown.

    For the Prez.

  205. 205.

    jl

    @Quinerly: I like they way he handled it though. “I don’t know what they’re saying.” A ‘Whatever’ look and moves on.

  206. 206.

    Mnemosyne

    @I’mNotSureWhoIWantToBeYet:

    I think the professor in him came out, because he actually stopped speaking to try and figure out what they were saying, but they were too far away. It was like he was trying to hear a question from the back of the lecture hall.

  207. 207.

    SiubhanDuinne

    @Quinerly:

    These numbers are particularly sweet, given that Trump is all and only about ratings and number of minutes of applause.

    Hey, Donald! Clap this!

  210. 210.

    Kathleen

    @lamh36: I stopped reading Booman when he became Bern curious and pretty much avoided the comment section 99% of the time when I read him. Most (not all) commenters there strike me as shallow thinkers who feel entitled because of their purity. Ugh. Booman is an excellent writer and can be insightful.

  211. 211.

    Schlemazel Khan

    @SiubhanDuinne:
    It was obviously the bernbastards and then the actual Democrats shouting them down. Seriously asshole, you hate being there, go the fuck home.

  213. 213.

    Kathleen

    @Keith P.: Sending good vibes your way. Regarding advice, I agree with commenters who have suggested finding a lawyer just to find out your options. I am sorry everything sucks for you right now. But it can change for you.

  214. 214.

    I'mNotSureWhoIWantToBeYet

    @Keith P.: That’s horrible, Keith. I’m very sorry.

    I don’t have any pointers to pass along. But while you’re looking at your options regarding your job, be sure you also look into the benefits and services your taxes have paid for. Don’t try to go through this alone.

    Best wishes.

    Cheers,
    Scott.

  217. 217.

    henqiguai

    @dmsilev(#88):

    Who emails voicemails to each other?

    Depends on the phone system. My current employer’s system sends you an email notifying you of a new voice mail with a transcription and copy of the actual message as attachments. Kind of odd, but it has its uses.

    ETA: And what Trentrunner said at #95.

  219. 219.

    SiubhanDuinne

    I was never a huge Leon Panetta fan (didn’t dislike him, just was never in love with him), but he is delivering an effective and powerful message tonight.

  221. 221.

    Xantar

    @Kathleen:

    I don’t think Booman was ever Bernie-curious. He was on record saying he thought both candidates were miserable.

    His comment section is probably the dumbest group this side of Red State, though. And then there was the time Booman’s other front pager posted the “study” showing that Hillary outperformed exit polls and therefore there must be rigged votes.

  222. 222.

    D58826

    Oh FSM, Nina Turner is crying about not getting a speaking slot on Monday. And one of her commentors calls Bernie a sell out.

  223. 223.

    Cacti

    I was indifferent about it before this year, but the BoBs boorish convention behavior has convinced me that closed primaries/caucuses are a w-o-n-d-e-r-f-u-l idea.

    No more green/libertarian brats at the national convention, please and thank you.

  224. 224.

    Keith P.

    Thanks to EVERYONE for their well-wishes. This place is been almost home to me for years, whether I’m being a shithead or a good citizen, and it’s nice just to get supportive words, even when the people are just names on a page. It means more to me than you can know.
    BTW: I have taken some of the advice given and have several irons in the fire. I don’t expect anything to come of it, since I live in Texas, but it felt like weight coming off my chest just hitting Send.

  228. 228.

    cckids

    @Keith P.: I’m so sorry. I know, all too well, the feeling that getting fairness or justice is beyond what you can handle right now. Do call the EEOC in your city/state, plus the suggestion about calling a local law school may bear fruit. If you are on Medicare/Medicaid, they may have a line on an advocate who can help you. You’re in our thoughts, know that. I agree with the people suggesting a GoFundMe, if you can do it. Together we can help, at least in one way.

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    Jim, Foolish Literalist

    @D58826: Is Turner the one who was locked out by the Secret Service? The “I’m with Nina” stickers got put together fast.

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    Mnemosyne

    Ah. Anti-war protesters.

    Time for the boot. Sorry, kids, this isn’t a public place, it’s a private event. First Amendment doesn’t apply.

    (Though, as noted before, IANAL.)

  238. 238.

    Quinerly

    Unfucking believable. I loathe Bernie Sanders and this shit he brought to my party. Just when I had gotten over my anger…a little.

  240. 240.

    Cacti

    @PsiFighter37:

    Bernie’s supporters are the worst. Closed primaries from here on out.

    If ever there was any doubt, “Feel the Bern” was about a hostile takeover of the Democratic Party by the left fringe.

    Get lost, chumps. Form your own “revolutionary progressive” party or whatever you want to call it, and stop trying to hijack mine.

  242. 242.

    Jim, Foolish Literalist

    Bernie Dumbledore would’ve cast a pax universalis spell! Why won’t people listen to Bernie!

  244. 244.

    SiubhanDuinne

    @lamh36:
    @Kathleen:
    @Xantar:

    I came late to BooMan (this year, or possibly late 2015). I’m not a regular reader, but he always strikes me as an intelligent yet misguided person. He pisses me off a lot, but he’s not insane.

  245. 245.

    Quinerly

    The die is cast. These assholes are going to boo Kaine when he speaks. I guess the good news is no one will be caught off guard now.

  247. 247.

    J R in WV

    @Keith P.:

    Call your hospital and ask for their social work/counseling office.

    Call the Social Security office and tell them you need to file for total and permanent disabililty (not a quick thing).

    Look for a lawyer who specializes in Social Security issues and ask for help with your disability application, they get paid by the SS settlement.

    Since your income shot to 0 you are eligible for food stamps. There is probably an office which provides emergency assistance.

    Find where to file for unemployment.

    I might come up with more. I’ll email a friend who worked for The Dept of Health and Human Services here in WV, but the programs are state by state. Churches have outreach and food pantries.

    Good luck, hang in there.

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    piratedan

    @lamh36: posted over at LGF and will do the same here…

    I tear up every time I see her speak… why? Because I know that she was one of the few blue dogs that came home and allowed the ACA to pass. She took out a full page ad in the local rag and laid it all out, why she was voting yes and what she felt the consequences were if she didn’t. Within a year, her offices were vandalized and she ended up near death.

    I was raised to believe that we’re all Americans and while we disagree on things (sometimes a great many things), one thing that rallies us all together is personal tragedy. Instead, what took place was that less than two months after nearly dying, the GOP was calling for there to be a special election to fill her slot. The AZ state lege refused to hear any bills submitted for gun control, but did allow the designation of a state handgun to be passed. That didn’t happen here, whispers that she’s a vegetable and we HAVE to remove her were whispered. A sitting person in the US Congress was nearly assassinated and the House couldn’t even get a gun control bill passed without the GOP poison pilling it to death.

    The Dems held the seat in the special election, but the GOP poured more money into the race, Ron Barber won again, but barely, so they dumped more money into the race and we ended up with Martha McSally instead, to carry on the legacy and naturally, she’s pretty much in lockstep with all of the other GOP claptrap.

    Their fetish of worship to the NRA nearly killed her and the NRA and the GOP dumped so much money into the race to keep her voice silenced. We all remember the Palin surveyor symbols and outrage that how dare we accuse them or targeting…

    because of all of that, I hate those fuckers with a passion of a thousand burning suns and now these fuckers are advocating (Fuck you, Chuck Todd) outside elements being used to commit espionage in the name of furthering their electoral prospects.

    there are times where I just simply want to walk up and punch Todd straight in the face and meet the guy who whispers the spin in the ears of the folks in front of the screen and put his balls in a jar.

  249. 249.

    Kathleen

    @Xantar: Thank you for being so honest. I so wanted to call them dumb but didn’t have the guts. And I heard about the Steven D Debacle in comments here. I keep wondering how such an intelligent writer can attract such shallow and dumb commenters. (Not all, of course. BJ’s own rikyrah comments there as do a few other good folks.)

  252. 252.

    TriassicSands

    I’m really looking forward to the upcoming film:

    Dr. StrangeTrump or How I Learned to Start Worrying and Love to Bomb

  253. 253.

    SiubhanDuinne

    @Kathleen:

    He’s good for me. I tend to read him much more thoughtfully than I otherwise might. That’s useful for my critical thinking faculties.

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    Keith P.

    @J R in WV: I’ve been told very frequently that disability for a dialysis patient is relatively cut and dry. My first social worker (who was terrible) said that because I work at a desk, I couldn’t get it, but every other social worker I’ve talked to and every other patient has said that I am certainly able to. My father went through the lawyer stuff when he lost some toes, but my case is a bit more boilerplate. I’ve hesitated all this time because I’d have to give up my house, since it would be a huge income hit (I’m a senior software developer) and I figured I could always get remote work. But remote work has not been as available as I thought (last one I attempted wanted me out of state 1 week per quarter), and going to an office *is* physically taxing; I currently have to walk across the parking lot (formerly up stairs) and across the building to sit down(I sent my “I need to work out a different work arrangement” email after nearly passing out just getting to my desk)
    Right now I am giving some thought to it. I *think* my social worker is in on Friday, but regardless, I do think I just have to file for disability given my current situation. The office is a couple of miles from my house, and it looks like I will have some free time next week :)

  255. 255.

    Kathleen

    @piratedan: All of what you said. And Chuck Todd is the Simulacrum of a Sniveling Sycophant. I feel like asking him via Tweet if his wife has a contract with Trump campaign.

  258. 258.

    Kathleen

    Will the foul and pestilent congregation of vapours dare to interrupt Biden or Obama?

  259. 259.

    JosieJ (not Josie)

    @Keith P.:

    Weighing in with best wishes, and some non-work-related advice. Most importantly, take care of yourself. I’m a fellow CHF-sufferer and, believe me I know: stress is a killer.

    You should speak with the hospital social worker about applying for Social Security Disability Insurance as soon as possible. It’s a long process, and it’s best to get started right away. You may have to fill in the gap with Public Assistance, such as it is. Taking care of your income concerns will go a long way toward easing your stress. If you get no satisfaction from the hospital social worker–always a possibility–seek out advocacy organizations for the disabled.

    Good luck!

    ETA: JR in WV got there first!

  261. 261.

    Vhh

    @Cacti: I am beginning to suspect that the Bernie Brats may have been funded and stirred up by Moscow. Assange is now on Russia Today staff, Wiki leaks used to launder hacked data (but got caught by Josh Marshall and the anti hacking geeks). All this is classic KGB playbook. I follow Russian affairs a bit, but am not anti Russian–i’ve done projects with Russian colleagues and I speak the language.

  262. 262.

    Kathleen

    @SiubhanDuinne: I should practice that [email protected]Vhh: I think they’re being subsidized by someone or something. Actually, I think the whole Bernie campaign was an exercise in rodent procreation with the intent of destroying the Democratic party and Bernie may or may not have been an unwitting participant.

  263. 263.

    TriassicSands

    @Keith P.:

    I’m truly sorry for your misfortune. Life can be a real struggle. I hope you can find the support you need to get you through all the difficulties ahead.

  264. 264.

    Karmus

    @Keith P.:

    Lost my job today while recovering from heart failure over the weekend. Was hoping to be able to rearrange my work schedule to accommodate working remotely, but I was literally just hooked up to dialysis when I got a call terminating me.
    In case anyone was wondering, I did call the Houston Citizen Asst line and was told they only deal with civil stuff, and it doesn’t matter anyway because the company can make up any reason to fire me (literally told me I would have to prove they fired me because I was in the hospital). In a state of shock, but if anyone has any suggestions (preferably not “sue”, as I am in a very weakened state and don’t think I’d live through that much stress) to get some kind of relief, I’m all ears.

    Keith, I don’t have any useful advice for you, but I am very sorry to read this, and I wish you all the best.

  265. 265.

    satby

    @Keith P.: Keith, I’m so sorry. If there’s other support you can try to get from the state department of human services try to. They usually have disability advocates.
    Even if you’re not on disability benefits.

  266. 266.

    satby

    @Keith P.: I hope not Keith. With less stress you might be able to get stronger. Ask for the help you need from anyone, and let us know too.
    We care about people as well as pets.

  267. 267.

    Anne Laurie

    @Kathleen:

    Actually, I think the whole Bernie campaign was an exercise in rodent procreation with the intent of destroying the Democratic party and Bernie may or may not have been an unwitting participant.

    Much as I’ve come to dislike Sanders personally, I give him the benefit of the doubt (pending further relevations). He was a lifetime leftie-crank who got lucky in his timing, and when his campaign turned out to be potentially destructive to the Democrats, the Repub ratfvckers were (as always) ready to jump aboard the Bernie Barge.

  268. 268.

    ArchPundit

    Seriously–no one remembers Platten’s husband is a reader and promoted her before she got big? Cole even put 1000 Ships video on the front page.

  269. 269.

    karen marie

    @dmsilev: Melania’s “professional” website’s been yanked, redirects to Trump’s campaign website. Too many questions about the false claim she graduated from university.

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