Come for the politics, stay for the snark.

Fuck that bum, let’s go Joe!

Damn right I heard that as a threat.

Optimism opens the door to great things.

Something needs to be done about our bogus SCOTUS.

Republicans are radicals, not conservatives.

Let’s not be the monsters we hate.

Some judge needs to shut this circus down soon.

Take hopelessness and turn it into resilience.

When your entire life is steeped in white supremacy, equality feels like discrimination.

Ah, the different things are different argument.

Balloon Juice, where there is always someone who will say you’re doing it wrong.

Proof that we need a blogger ethics panel.

I conferred with the team and they all agree – still not tired of winning!

In short, I come down firmly on all sides of the issue.

“What are Republicans afraid of?” Everything.

Maybe you would prefer that we take Joelle’s side in ALL CAPS?

My years-long effort to drive family and friends away has really paid off this year.

Never give a known liar the benefit of the doubt.

Can we lighten up on the doomsday scenarios?

Anyone who bans teaching American history has no right to shape America’s future.

There are some who say that there are too many strawmen arguments on this blog.

Thanks to your bullshit, we are now under siege.

I was promised a recession.

Dead end MAGA boomers crying about Talyor Swift being a Dem is my kind of music. Turn it up.

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  1. 1.

    debbie

    Yeah, where’s all the GOP outrage? Wasn’t it practically yesterday that Mitt named Russia the #1 enemy of America? Now, there’s nothing but crickets.

  2. 2.

    Mustang Bobby

    The Trump campaign should use “Midnight in Moscow” at their rallies. It’s got a nice beat and I doubt Kenny Ball and His Jazzmen will object.

  3. 3.

    OzarkHillbilly

    “I don’t know anything about him except he will respect me.” — Trump on Putin

    Ummmm, Donald? Not even your fans respect you.

  4. 4.

    sm*t cl*de

    Has anyone asked John McCain whether he supports his party’s new policy of abandoning Russia’s neighbours?
    I know he’d find a way to waffle out of answering, but the question would cause him enough pain to make it worthwhile.

  6. 6.

    rikyrah

    The Associated PressVerified account
    ‏@AP
    BREAKING: AP source: Obama’s presidential library to be built in Jackson Park on Chicago’s South Side.

  11. 11.

    lamh36

    I’ll say what I’ve been saying all along…once again, people of color, and women voters (the same ones showcased by the Dem Convention throughout), are gonna be the ones to maybe save this country from the napalm-like anger of the majority…

    At least ya’ll better hope they do…either way though, we’ll get blamed if Trump wins…NOT the folks whining about the Dems and shovelling the shit Donald Trump spews all the damn time and willing to give him their votes, cause they like the way he tells it like it is to that negra in charge, and that girl who wants to be POTUS.

    Donald Trump implies Vladimir Putin uses the ‘N-word’ to describe US President Barack Obama

  12. 12.

    debbie

    I heard a report on NPR this afternoon that unnamed State Dept. sources were considering not giving Trump any foreign briefings.

  14. 14.

    rikyrah

    from POU:

    Kennymack1971
    I don’t feel fear…. I feel…rage.

    When I think of all the crap POTUS and FLOTUS have had to put up with…
    Trolled about flag pins, Whitey tapes, their church, their pastor, his birth certificate, her patriotism, how they spend their money and their vacations..
    Yet this inadequate, dumb ass White man who got where he is thanks to Daddy’s money and a dumbed down reality TV culture…this motherfucker just today..

    Refused to release his taxes.
    Advocates for a foreign country to perform a cyber attack..
    Insulted the President while praising Russia’s President…and the media shrugs…

    This is bullshit. So no I’m not scared. I am pissed the fuck off. That’s all the motivation I need for November because I’ll be DAMNED if PBO is succeeded by this asshole…nope not happening.

  16. 16.

    rikyrah

    Propane Jane ‏@docrocktex26 Feb 1

    Ignoring the impact of PBO’s opposition on the implementation of his agenda is ignoring the very mechanism by which racism infects govt.

  18. 18.

    Major Major Major Major

    Ugh, what a news day, eh?

    One of my friends shared one of those stories about grandmas with signs about “I’ve been waiting 95 years for this!” and whatnot with me, and he said you should do this with your grandma! But he forgot that my grandma is in hospice and has Alzheimer’s so now I’m sad and he feels terrible.

  19. 19.

    jl

    @Iowa Old Lady: But probably a good idea to adjust the candidates’ briefing a little bit. My understanding is that candidates get a special briefing, not same as office holders. Trump wouldn’t notice an extra watered-down version and would make no difference for HRC.

  22. 22.

    Technocrat

    @debbie:

    The agency that Clinton used to head – denying briefings to her election opponent? Mannnn, I hope no one is stupid enough to do that..

  23. 23.

    J R in WV

    I had to go to town today, new lenses in my glasses, shopping for bread and food, fresh veggies at the farmer’s market, etc.

    I saw my first “TRUMP” bumper sticker at the Kroger’s store, on the back of a Ford Flex, along with “Hillary for Prison” and ” 1-20-17 End of an Error”.

    So this guy is a racist, as well as pig ignorant about Hillary’s career and Trump’s abilities.

    Quite an eye opener. Here in patriotic West Virginia.

  24. 24.

    debbie

    @Iowa Old Lady:
    @Technocrat:

    Yeah, but how can you give that kind of information to a guy who pops off the way Trump does? And by the way, where’s Manafort on this?

  25. 25.

    Calouste

    @srv: You have to up your game, leaving “state records show” in there.

    Btw, did the article include the phrase “Senator Kaine is the running mate of former Secretary of State Hillary Clinton. Secretary Clinton has released three decades of tax returns. Her opponent Donald Trump has released no tax returns at all.”? If not, it’s incomplete.

  29. 29.

    rikyrah

    Forget Pence, Putin is Now Trump’s Running Mate
    by Martin Longman
    Wed Jul 27th, 2016 at 01:56:58 PM EST

    At this point, we don’t know if WikiLeaks is planning on releasing more embarrassing and inconvenient emails or if all the emails that get dumped will be stolen from the Democrats. Perhaps some problematic Republican emails have been pilfered, too. What we do know, though, is that prominent Republicans are setting Hillary Clinton up to take the blame if more evidence of hacking takes place. Here’s RNC Chairman Reince Priebus talking on the Hugh Hewitt radio show:

    Asked whether he expected some of Clinton’s personal emails to leak from her server, Priebus said, “Boy, I don’t know.”

    “Certainly it seems like we hear these rumors that they have these emails,” he said, referring to hackers. “Quite frankly if it’s national security you don’t want to see that happening. Hillary Clinton put our country at grave risk, and hopefully we don’t get to the point where those are released. But her sloppiness could lead to something very bad.”

    Of course, the DNC wasn’t using a server in Hillary Clinton’s house, and there’s no reason to believe that her emails have been hacked by the Russians. According the forensic investigation, there’s no evidence that they were, anyway. But Priebus wanted to blame her “sloppiness” for any future thefts regardless of where they were stolen from.

    Reince also made a curious prediction to reporter Andrea Mitchell at the Democratic National Convention on Monday:

    Reince said, “I believe that here are more emails coming. I think this is just the beginning. I don’t believe Wikileaks or these folks, whoever they are, simply released the emails all at once without more to come. I think there’s more to come and I think they should be prepared for more excitement in the email world this week.”

    Mitchell followed up,”Do you know something about it?”

    Priebus denied knowing anything, but speculated on the motives of people that “like to play games” and said usually more do follow.

  30. 30.

    Technocrat

    @debbie:

    If it was my call, I tell him he’s getting the deep stuff, and give him the “for public release” stuff. How’s he gonna know?

    @lamh36:

    Great minds!

  32. 32.

    inventor

    @debbie:

    And by the way, where’s Manafort on this?

    He’s right where Vlad wants him to be…..at all times.

  35. 35.

    J R in WV

    @Major Major Major Major:

    Sorry to hear that about your Grandma. We haven’t had much of that in my family, but my paternal Grandpa had a stroke, and was awake but unaware in a hospital room for years after that.

    He lived next door to us, so we were pretty close. I did a lot of yard work and gardening with him. He only had one leg and couldn’t use a wheelbarrow, but I could.

    So I know what you’re going through there. Hang in there.

  37. 37.

    JPL

    @srv: One candidate encouraged a foreign government to look into state department emails, and the vp candidate took a legal trip.. both sides my ass. Move to Russia and they pay trolls, more money…. just sayin

  38. 38.

    rikyrah

    Zeddonymous
    ‏@ZeddRebel
    You know what normalizes Trump? That ‘aww there goes Trump again’ attitude news anchors have within minutes of every fascist hateful tirade.

  39. 39.

    Kropadope

    @debbie:

    Yeah, where’s all the GOP outrage? Wasn’t it practically yesterday that Mitt named Russia the #1 enemy of America? Now, there’s nothing but crickets.

    The enemy of the Republicans’ enemy is their most unassailable friend.

  40. 40.

    Kropadope

    @rikyrah:

    You know what normalizes Trump? That ‘aww there goes Trump again’ attitude news anchors have within minutes of every fascist hateful tirade.

    Lowering the bar for Republican candidates has been the MSM MO for as long as I’ve been watching.

  41. 41.

    Anne Laurie

    @dmsilev:

    At this point, “Is Donald Trump a paid agent of the Russians” is no longer quite so ludicrous a question to ask.

    Why should Putin pay for something he already owns?

  43. 43.

    jl

    @rikyrah: Still surprised how little coverage of his dangerous and insane comments on NATO.
    Ignorant stunts like he is suggesting is a good way to get us all blown up. For no reason at all. Worse than the stupid Cold War.

  44. 44.

    Seth Owen

    @Technocrat: I think he should get an actual classified briefing (with any truly dangerous-to-release Intel redacted of course) and wait for Trump to be Trump. He is so undisciplined that he will do the Trump thing and spill a bean or two and then they can shut him off.

  45. 45.

    Jim, Foolish Literalist

    I don’t know if this is a problem for “Dems”

    Dave Wasserman
    ‏@ Redistrict
    Problem for Dems: I just watched a local NBC affiliate preview a segment by describing Trump remarks as a “bold message to Russia.”

    This guy is a reporter for the non-partisan– as he points out in his twitter bio– Cook Political Report.

  46. 46.

    Calouste

    @CONGRATULATIONS!: There are about 10 million people of Polish descent in the US, 400-500,000 of them in Ohio. I’m sure Trump promising Putin a free hand to restore the old boundaries of the Russian Empire is going to be a yuuuuge vote winner with that group.

  48. 48.

    rikyrah

    Ben JacobsVerified account
    ‏@Bencjacobs
    Trump and Pence are starting to feel like McCain and Palin.

    Only Pence is McCain and Trump is Palin.

  49. 49.

    dmsilev

    @Anne Laurie: Well, there are the upkeep costs. All that gold leaf doesn’t come cheap. Think of Trump as an extremely déclassé koala.

  51. 51.

    jl

    For the nervous troll-cerned white dudes visiting the comments, ‘Fightin’ Harry Reid’ up there talking GOP attacks on Social Security and Medicare.
    McConnell: shiftless fraud who won’t do a day’s work (my loose paraphrase, but hey one dog-whistle deserves another, right?) , Trump: con-man

  53. 53.

    Timurid

    It’s now only a matter of time before the RNC and the Trump campaign get hacked.
    I’m curious about all the juicy stuff in Manafort’s private correspondence, and I’m sure Anonymous is curious about that too…

  57. 57.

    debbie

    @jl:

    Or, for those who like complete sentences.

    My favorite bit:

    “I think Watergate was something that people understood. It was wrong, morally wrong, for the president of the United States to be involved in such trivia,” he said. “What Trump is talking about is much worse than Watergate. Absolutely.”

  58. 58.

    dmsilev

    It’s going to be so sad to see the end of Onion Joe Biden. Today’s headline: “Biden Busted In DNC Parking Lot Selling Bootleg ‘I’m With Her’ T-Shirts”.

  60. 60.

    smeh

    @rikyrah:

    Terrifying. Preibus is commingling the DNC server hack with the SoS private server which as far as anyone knows was never hacked. Therefore Clinton, by her “carelessness” is herself responsible for the Russians having all the SoS emails. And the common clay will never clue in that these are two different boxes.

  61. 61.

    SiubhanDuinne

    @rikyrah:

    As a former Chicagoan, this sounds good. Trips to the Museum of Science and Interesting will never be the same! Can’t wait for my 60th high school reunion in 2020 (probably won’t get back home any sooner than that).

  62. 62.

    lamh36

    @jl: and Biden and Kaine will both be speaking directly to them…

    But of course that’s never enough…

    It takes darn near the entire nation of Black folk to get even some of our own allies to even halfway listen to us, but all it takes is like one white guy and them same folks are ready to listen and console that one white guy…smh

    It has always been the way though…and folks wonder why it’s gets weary sometimes to always have to do that with our issues

  63. 63.

    Kropadope

    @debbie: If the world were just, this would be deemed to be a new Watergate, but 1000 times worse than the original.

  64. 64.

    James E Powell

    @rikyrah:

    And they smile when they talk about his latest stunt, like it’s the entertaining hijinks of someone who has a sitcom on their network.

  67. 67.

    eversor

    I must admit, this has been something to see. As a USN veteran who worked in a command center staffed by operations/intelligence/cryptographic/electronic warfare specialists, then IT contractor for government/defense/state/ngo/for profit sectors… I’ve never fucking seen anything on this level of insane. Suggesting anyone engage in criminal cyber crime, let alone asking foreign power to engage in cyber espionage, or a foreign rival engage in cyber warfare is just beyond fucking bizarre.

    What he’s asking for is the exact sort of raw intelligence which is top secret and the methods of how it’s gathered are nation states closest secrets. He’s asking the fucking GRU to engage in cyber warfare against an individual, political party, and state department? It’s an act of fucking war.

    Is this really happening?

  68. 68.

    Technocrat

    @Kropadope:

    I think the most surreal part is how much the media is normalizing all the crazy. Eventually I’m going to start asking myself “well…what IS wrong with Putin running America?”.

  69. 69.

    James E Powell

    So what are we looking for from Uncle Joe? The Irish Funeral Joe? The Dutch Uncle Lecturing Joe? The “Let me tell you about my friend Hillary” Joe? What’s your pick?

  70. 70.

    Cacti

    Since it’s an open thread…

    I’ll be going to my first ever Scottish Highland Games/Clan Gathering this weekend, after discovering during the past year that I have lots of Scots ancestry (Bruce, Campbell, Crawford, Wallace, etc.).

    Anybody who’s been to one have any recommendations on what to see? I’ve been told it’s one of the biggest ones in the country (Seattle/PNW) and I might not be able to do every single thing this year, with two young boys in tow. What are the “can’t miss” things?

  71. 71.

    SiubhanDuinne

    Assume at some point we’re going to have a dedicated DNC thread (or two, or three, depending on the T-Bogg Factor). In the meantime, I just wanna say, I love all these “Trump In His Own Words” videos they drop in from time to time. Very effective!

  73. 73.

    jl

    @lamh36: Like I said on previous thread, few people likely to vote Democratic are going to be obsessively demo tracking every second of the coverage from mid-afternoon on. I suppose Limbaugh and the Fox News people have a few interns on it, so they can spout dog-whistles the next day. Who else?

  74. 74.

    Jim, Foolish Literalist

    @James E Powell: The Dutch Uncle Lecturing Joe? The “Let me tell you about my friend Hillary” Joe?

    I’m not familiar with the Dutch Uncle thing, but isn’t tonight Commander in Chief night ? I’m expecting a lot of talk about the decision to go after bin Laden.

  76. 76.

    debbie

    @Technocrat:

    I think the most unbelievable is how cowed the Republicans are. How can they not repudiate this? Is there no one in the GOP braver than John Kasich?

  77. 77.

    Trollhattan

    @Omnes Omnibus:
    Everyone who knew a polyester-shirted, gold-chain wearing, disco-strutting Italian kid knows a Catholic boy can definitely rock a TransAm.

  79. 79.

    SiubhanDuinne

    @debbie:

    I heard a report on NPR this afternoon that unnamed State Dept. sources were considering not giving Trump any foreign briefings.

    Woot!! Also, heh.

  80. 80.

    Timurid

    @lamh36

    Clinton is worried about White America’s precious fee fees, and she’s right to be worried. It makes me angry and sick just to type this, but right now White America’s precious little fee fees are the most important thing in the world. Because if Baby White America throws a screaming tantrum and starts smearing shit on the walls this November, we are all fucked.

  83. 83.

    hovercraft

    @Mike J:
    I see it being much more in depth, the difference between NATO and the EU. After a month of that they will move on to what a treaty is.

  85. 85.

    Bill E Pilgrim

    Dems accuse Trump of disloyalty over Clinton emails

    Big headline on the CNN Web site.

    Apparently something unprecedented happened today, for the first time in our history people from one political party had the gall to be running against someone who called for a foreign power to help him by exposing emails to undermine another candidate, and worse, had the gall to point this out.

    Those Democrats have gone too far this time, surely. And no, I won’t stop calling you surely.

  86. 86.

    debbie

    @Jim, Foolish Literalist:

    I hope there’s a line in his speech like this: “The party accusing me of being afraid to name ISIS is also the party that let OBL escape at Tora Bora. Just one more mess I had to clean up.”

  89. 89.

    hovercraft

    So Nicolle Wallace spoke to the Trump campaign and they feel they had a good day, their goal today was to knock Hillary and Obama off the front pages. See so their strategery worked. He won the day bigly.

  91. 91.

    Miss Bianca

    @debbie: I’m kind of surprised Ted Cruz isn’t leaping on this like a dozen attorneys. I mean, what’s he got to lose?

  92. 92.

    SiubhanDuinne

    @dmsilev:

    I hope their architects respect the surrounding land; that’s a beautiful site.

    Yes it is. And in my wildest nightmares, I can’t imagine the Obamas hiring architects who wouldn’t respect the setting. I’ve trusted them on most things for eight years; I’ll trust them on this.

  93. 93.

    Mnemosyne

    @James E Powell:

    I want the Crazy Uncle Joe who says what everyone else at the Thanksgiving dinner table is thinking but is too afraid to say, like You know, that boyfriend of yours is a loser who’s bleeding you dry. Why don’t you make that bum get a job?

  95. 95.

    Villago Delenda Est

    @dmsilev: He’s deeply indebted to Putin’s oligarch cronies, since he can’t get financing from US banks, as he’s a known deadbeat.

  97. 97.

    Jim, Foolish Literalist

    Trump’s doing an AMA

    Olivia Nuzzi ‏@ Olivianuzzi 12m12 minutes ago
    I asked Trump why he won’t release his tax returns if he’s rich and doesn’t have ties to the Russians. Reddit deleted it within 15 minutes.

    Good thing I didn’t bother to sign up to ask my questions about Ivana and Ivanka….

  99. 99.

    lamh36

    @Timurid: Sure…and just like in the past it will be voters of Color, including Black women (most consistent and loyal Dem voters), Hispanics, womens, likely Muslims…etc..to save white folks from themselves.

    One of these days, those groups either alone or together may just start to demand more from DNC than just presentation on this stage and them Dems will have a real conundrum…

  100. 100.

    hovercraft

    @Timurid:
    It seems that we now have a clear divide, guccifer and wiki are on one team, and anonymous on the other.

  101. 101.

    debbie

    Johnny K. has found his inner bully. He’s used the last bit of his campaign funds to set up an anti-Trump site.

    It’s down at the moment, but if it comes back up, it might be worth a visit.

    Now the plucky fighter is going one step further. The governor is using what’s left of his campaign money to troll Trump by pointing out his close connections with Russian dictator Vladimir Putin.

    After the Democratic National Committee’s emails servers were hacked by the Russian government and several documents were released right before the party nominated Hillary Clinton as president, top Democrats have claimed it was done as a clumsy attempt by Putin to help Trump’s candidacy. The two men have repeatedly said nice things about each other over the past few months.

    “In a bold and visionary move characteristic of everything he does, today terrific billionaire Donald Trump named Russian President Vladimir Putin as his running mate in the 2016 U.S. presidential campaign,” the Kasich campaign said in a news release. They claim the duo’s campaign slogan will be “Make Tyranny Great Again.”

    The website, Trump-Putin2016.com, has been overwhelmed with the amount of traffic it’s getting and has been down off and on for most of the day. The campaign was “Paid for with dollars, not rubles, by Kasich for America” according to the site.

  102. 102.

    SiubhanDuinne

    Glad to see Martin O’Malley on the speakers’ roster. He didn’t have a prayer this year against the combined Clinton-Sanders forces, but I think he’s a good man, and I’m glad he has a chance to address the convention.

  103. 103.

    Kropadope

    @Timurid:

    Clinton is worried about White America’s precious fee fees, and she’s right to be worried. It makes me angry and sick just to type this, but right now White America’s precious little fee fees are the most important thing in the world. Because if Baby White America throws a screaming tantrum and starts smearing shit on the walls this November, we are all fucked.

    The white Americans throwing tantrums are by and large the same segment of white Americans throwing tantrums since before Reagan.

  105. 105.

    Truegster

    I’m wondering if there is a line that Trump could cross verbally, policy wise.
    Maybe saying at a press conference “people, they briefed me on the classified stuff, and let me say, I’m going to fix the deficit by selling old, really sad, state secrets that really don’t matter, if I must say” – can we sneak in a Trump distant cousin as a mole and inception plant in his hair?

  106. 106.

    Baud

    @Truegster:

    I’m wondering if there is a line that Trump could cross verbally, policy wise.

    He could stop demonizing brown people. That sink him.

  107. 107.

    Mnemosyne

    @Tilda Swinton’s Bald Cap:

    If we can think of a cleverly-worded question that might squeak past the mods, I bet someone has an established account.

    (I have one, but I’ve only ever posted on the Raised By Narcisssists board and I don’t want to make a whole bunch more work for the mods over there in case Trump trolls follow me back there.)

  108. 108.

    singfoom

    Am I the only one that hopes that Sigourney Weaver does an Aliens “Get away from her, you bitch!” reprise during this speech? If there’s anything that reminds me of Donald Trump, it’s the xenomoprh.

  109. 109.

    guachi

    @Timurid:

    Clinton is worried about White America’s precious fee fees

    I enjoy your racist comments. Can I have some more?

  110. 110.

    SiubhanDuinne

    @SiubhanDuinne:

    “The country we carry in our hearts is waiting!” Nice exit line.

    ETA: And here’s Sigourney Weaver! Nice.

    ETA 2: And not to be lookist or anything, but she looks not much different than she did in Working Girl, however many decades ago that was.

  113. 113.

    singfoom

    @Truegster: The last year contains plenty of examples of people pointing out the lines he’s crossed. So far the evidence seems to bear out the conclusion that there is no line he can cross that will finally end his candidacy.

  117. 117.

    Timurid

    @lamh36:

    When that happens the DNC will say, “Get back to us when you guys can bring 51% of the vote on your own.” And then, considering the current state of the Republican ‘bench,’ they’ll punctuate their argument by pointing over at whatever walking nightmare is currently heading the opposing ticket.

    In 25 years or so, when they can bring that 51% on their own, is when things are really going to get real…

  119. 119.

    Gravenstone

    Pursuant to the thread title, this mem popped up on my FB page today. It seems appropriate.

    The GOP currently holds …
    286 of 440 House seats
    54 of 100 Senate seats
    31 of 50 Governors
    70 of 99 state legislative chambers
    4 of 8 serving Supreme Court justices

    I just thought it worth noting that the party complaining so much about the direction the country is headed seems to have their its hands all over the steering wheel

  120. 120.

    Gin & Tonic

    @debbie: Kasich knows how to count, and knows how many people in Ohio are of Polish, Ukrainian, Latvian and Lithuanian descent.

  122. 122.

    Mnemosyne

    @lamh36:

    You may want to go see the “behind the scenes” interviews they’re showing on the DNC website. They’re all Millennials, and the vast majority that I’ve seen are not white.

    The DNC knows where the future lies even if some of its voters don’t seem to.

  123. 123.

    jl

    Did I just hear Ahnold in the global warming spot? They get a public clip of him or is he going Kasich?

  124. 124.

    Omnes Omnibus

    @SiubhanDuinne:

    And not to be lookist or anything, but she looks not much different than she did in Working Girl, however many decades ago that was.

    I had the same general thought, but I was thinking Ghostbusters. I refrained from pointing it out until you risked outing your lookism.

  126. 126.

    TriassicSands

    Any day now, Trump is going to start tweeting about his “precious bodily fluids.”

    Mentally ill.

    I considered people who voted for Bush, Romney, etc. to be stupid, foolish, or selfish. Anyone who votes for Trump is either insane or part of the Trump family.

    Is there really a segment of the American electorate out there that can excuse Trump’s call for Russia to hack American government computers? Maybe Trump should call on the North Koreans to kidnap Hillary and torture her until she “comes clean.”

    Things have gone beyond parody, beyond farce. The candidacy of Donald Trump is officially unbelievable — in the purest, simplest sense of the word.

  127. 127.

    hovercraft

    Excellent short film about global warming is on now. Directed by James Cameron, voice over by Sigorney Weaver.
    It’s actually making Trump look like as big a fool as he is.
    Features real people and hollywood celebs.

  128. 128.

    Mnemosyne

    @guachi:

    Perhaps you should STFU for a minute and listen to people who don’t look exactly like you. Just a hint.

    And I say that as someone who is the same color as you.

  129. 129.

    lamh36

    @Mnemosyne: Oh, I know they are engaged and even if they are NOT in the same large numbers for Obama, even a small number of them could be big enough in some of those leaning states with loads of universities and young people.

  130. 130.

    SiubhanDuinne

    @Cacti:

    What are the “can’t miss” things?

    Personally, I’d be checking out the Men in Kilts Pageant, but that may not be for everyone.

  132. 132.

    Technocrat

    @lamh36:

    I…can’t even be mad. That’s some refined, weapons-grade Bothsiderism. Part of me wonders if he was trolling her.

    ETA: What was that chant?

  134. 134.

    JMG

    There is nothing Trump can say that will cause his base to leave him. It’s what they’d say all the time if they weren’t such gutless losers at heart. But there’s plenty he can say that’d lose him an election, and today might have been one of them. We must remember nobody but committed partisans has participated in this election AT ALL until maybe these past two weeks.

  135. 135.

    hovercraft

    “Almost anyone who chooses to think believes in the science of climate change”.
    Jerry Brown

  136. 136.

    dmsilev

    @TriassicSands:

    Any day now, Trump is going to start tweeting about his “precious bodily fluids.”

    Nah, Trump would never admit to loss of essence.

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    jl

    @JMG: I’ve read that Trump is bleeding support from college educated White guys. That might be the target audience for tonight.

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    Gravenstone

    @J R in WV:

    I saw my first “TRUMP” bumper sticker at the Kroger’s store, on the back of a Ford Flex, along with “Hillary for Prison” and ” 1-20-17 End of an Error”.

    The secretary for my building at work sports the latter two stickers on her car. I’ve not yet seen whether she’s added Trump to it or not. I have, however, seen at least two other vehicles (both beat up pick ups) in our lots sporting their pro-Trump support. I hate living in a blood red part of WI.

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    Mary G

    @hovercraft: The quality of the short films between the two conventions is so different. The Republicans only had the one good one about flight and space; the rest were amateur hour.
    Yay Gov. Moonbeam!!

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    Keith G

    Political nerds may want to read John Favreau’s (Obama’s chief speechwriter 2007-2013) essay Why Michelle Obama’s DNC Speech Worked So Well

    Also take the time to listen to the podcast Keeping It 1600 that Favreau and Dan Pfieffer do every week (and more often during conventions).
    Tuesday’s podcast is DNC Midweek Check in. All podcasts have a section called “Poller coaster” designed to tease out what the polling news of the week really means.

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    Mnemosyne

    Until Lee Daniels wins an Oscar, this is probably the biggest crowd he will speak in front of, so I can’t blame him for being a little nervous.

  149. 149.

    Crashman06

    Some hateful person on my street put up a ten foot Trump flag right in front of his door on Monday night. In liberal metro Boston. Makes me physically ill every time I see it.

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    TriassicSands

    @Gravenstone:

    I just thought it worth noting that the party complaining so much about the direction the country is headed seems to have their its hands all over the steering wheel.

    The problem is the Republicans are in a Tesla with Autopilot and they’re all in the back seat watching the Atlas Shrugged video.

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    Mnemosyne

    I’m assuming these are two of her son’s friends helping her through this speech.

    Yes, tears are rolling down my cheeks right now.

  155. 155.

    jake the antisoshul soshulist

    If Trump were to skull-fuck a kitten, he would gain votes.

  156. 156.

    hovercraft

    @Mary G:
    Trump is a fraud!
    Trump lies!
    Pence denies evolution!
    Even the know nothings of the 1860’s weren’t this bad.

  157. 157.

    lamh36

    Anyhoo, in non-political news…

    Guess who got a ticket to see Adele in Los Angeles on August 21st!!!!!!

    ME!!!

    Got an email for Adele.com members Monday that she was adding 2 Los Angeles stops to the tour in late Aug at Staples Center. On Tuesday they sent an email with a code to get advanced sales tickets before general sale on Friday. I was queued up on my Iphone while at work for about 20 minutes (after I had to search my email for the code, I deleted by mistake!!!). I was gonna try to get 2 tickets, and hope to find someone to go with, but 2 tickets weren’t available. But…I was able to get one for Sunday Aug 21st.

    So I’m making plans to go to LA from Sat Aug 20 to Tues Aug 23!

    Woohoo.

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    JMG

    Every place people hate their lives and themselves is Trump Country. We are a deeply sick society for a wide variety of reasons. The fact we appear to be an entire country without a single mirror is probably the biggest one. I know it won’t happen, but how I wish Obama, the sanest President of my lifetime, which goes back to Ike, told white people with those bumperstickers. their whining loserdom was what was making them feel terrible, not their fellow Americans. He could end with, “maybe you should’ve worked harder in school, like I did.”

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    SiubhanDuinne

    O/T but urgent (to me, anyhow). This has happened pretty much every night of both the RNC and now the DNC. I stream one of the live feeds, and all goes more-or-less well for a while, and then either it quits altogether, or suddenly reboots to an hour or so earlier. For instance, I was just enjoying listening to Jerry Brown, and in the middle of a sentence the feed kicked back to Martin O’Malley.

    I’m watching on my iPhone so I can follow and comment here on my iPad. Safari. Any suggestions before the big headliners get started?

  160. 160.

    singfoom

    @Mnemosyne: Impressive to hear the crowd that has been so loud during other speeches get so quiet when she started speaking about her son and Orlando. Very very powerful indeed.

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    Uncle Cosmo

    @SiubhanDuinne: I got an e-mail Monday that he was going to be on sometime after 7 PM tonight so I stuck around to see it in real time, holding my breath at what sort of reception he’d get.

    As a friend of MOM’s for the last 29 years. let me say thanks to all for the fine & spirited reception for a spirited & rousing speech by a dedicated & determined Democrat!

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    Origuy

    @Cacti: I go to them regularly; I’ll be doing Scottish Country dancing Labor Day weekend in Pleasanton, CA. I haven’t been to the Seattle games, so there’ll be some different events.
    There are two kinds of dancing: Highland and Country. Highland is the performance dancing; think sword dances and Sailor’s Hornpipe. That’s usually a judged competition. SCD is a social dance like square dancing. I’ve never seen competitions; usually performance and adjudication (critical evaluation, but no ranking.)
    The athletic events are a must see. There’s the caber toss, which is the most distinctive event. They’ll try to flip a large wooden post end-over-end. The ideal is to get it at 12 o’clock, in line with the path of the tosser. The other events are variations on lifting and throwing large objects.
    I see from the website that they’ll have several performers I like. Don’t miss Wicked Tickers. They do a kind of “tribal” take on pipes and drums, along with didgeridoo and Irish horn. Tempest is a Celtic rock band; electric guitars along with the pipes. Men of Worth and Golden Bough are more traditional folk. I haven’t seen the others.
    Stop in at the tent of your clan if you want know about the clan history.
    There’s usually a pipe band competition, or you can watch the massed bands at the closing ceremonies. There are always a lot of vendors selling British food (not just haggis), crafts, etc. Get yourself a kilt!

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    singfoom

    @SiubhanDuinne: I’m watching via chrome, so dunno if it’s a Safari issue, but I’ve been enjoying it this entire afternoon via Dem Convention and haven’t had any problems.

    I’d also suggest that you turn your wireless off and on on your devices and see if that is of any help.

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    raven

    @SiubhanDuinne: There are too many elements. Your connection, the amount of traffic on your ISP and then how many people are hitting the site you are trying to hit. Radio maybe?

  167. 167.

    Chyron HR

    @guachi:

    Gosh, it sure is a weird coincidence how many True Progressives separately but simultaneously became Very Concerned about having too many Identity Politics on stage at the convention.

  168. 168.

    SiubhanDuinne

    Thanks to all who provided suggestions/advice. All I’m getting now are Spanish-language translations.

    Will try watching on iPad for a while, which means I won’t get to see y’all’s sterling commentary, nor participate in it for a while.

    Later ::waves::

  172. 172.

    debbie

    @Gravenstone:

    All three of my brothers are Republicans. The least rabid of them has decided to support Gary Johnson. Fine with me since that’s one less GOP vote. I’m hoping he’ll have some influence on my youngest brother. I’ve cut off the third brother, who supports Trump and still questions the birth certificate. He’s just a bastard.

  174. 174.

    Lizzy L

    @James E Powell: The Joe I want to hear from is the Joe Barack Obama introduced as his running mate in 2008, when he said, “Nobody messes with Joe.”

    I want THAT Joe, please.

  175. 175.

    TriassicSands

    @dmsilev:

    Nah, Trump would never admit to loss of essence.

    Agreed, but he would accuse Hillary Clinton of wanting to sap our precious bodily fluids. He’s already an anti-vaxer; how long before he comes out against fluoridation of our drinking water?

  176. 176.

    Gravenstone

    @Baud: The season is early and I don’t pretend to scout the entire site. Just for giggles I should get a pic of one of our local ammosexuals, who formerly had a Gadsden flag on his ride. Now he’s upgraded to a half a dozen loud and proud gun fondler stickers, most notably “Fuck Gun Control” where the F and L are replaced with stylized rifles. I will give him points for originality with the “stick family” composed of assorted long arms. It’s a real special bunch in this area.

  177. 177.

    Shalimar

    @Jim, Foolish Literalist:

    Good thing I didn’t bother to sign up to ask my questions about Ivana and Ivanka….

    On Reddit? No one would know you weren’t a regular redditor if you asked him this:

    “Is Ivanka hotter than Ivana was when you first met her?”
    “Follow-up, if Ivanka is hotter, can you imagine how much even hotter the baby would be if you had one with her?”

  180. 180.

    Kathleen

    @Technocrat: Again, had to reply to this. Yes. The “normalizing” of racist, evil, psychotic behavior is why I reference media as the mainslime media.

  181. 181.

    J R in WV

    @Cacti:

    Caber toss, bagpipes. Sword dancing (girls!) with bagpipes.

    The Caber toss is throwing a telephone pole for distance.

    The sword dancing is pretty girls dancing to drums and pipes.

    Scotch is, well, we know what that is… it’s what makes all the other Scots stuff possible!

  183. 183.

    J R in WV

    @Mnemosyne:

    … And I say that as someone who is the same color as you.

    I dunno, lime green with cherry polkadots? Red raspberry with cola spots? Whatd’ya think, really? ;-)

  187. 187.

    Enhanced Voting Techniques

    I am surprised no one is asking the obvious questions; what does this mean to the GOP nomination race? I mean that was a mighty strange race how all the other Republicans were soft-balling Trump on his obvious weak spots, like was someone blackmailing them with hacked e-mails?

  188. 188.

    Name

    “maybe you should’ve worked harder in school, like I did.”
    Sticker: “Trump/Pence 20116 – – OR – – get your GDE”

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