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DNC Pinnacle Night #4 Open Thread

by Anne Laurie|  July 28, 20169:34 pm| 91 Comments

This post is in: Because of wow., Election 2016, Hillary Clinton 2016, Open Threads, Women's Rights Are Human Rights

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Courtesy, blessings upon them forever, the Guardian, livestreaming here.

There’s also the official DemConvention.com livestream, which unfortunately right at the moment is showing backstage clips instead of the podium speakers…

… Abdul-Jabbar introduces a video in which Clinton tells the story of Humayun SM Khan, an army soldier who died in a car bombing.

Now out stop Khizr Khan, the soldier’s father, and his wife, unintroduced.

Khan says they stand as parents of Khan “and as patriotic American Muslims.” They are fervently applauded.

This don’t look like Cleveland.

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  1. 1.

    ellie

    July 28, 2016 at 9:38 pm

    I love Sherrod Brown. Just love him.

  2. 2.

    PigDog

    July 28, 2016 at 9:38 pm

    Still reeling from Khan whipping out the Constitution.

  3. 3.

    Mnemosyne

    July 28, 2016 at 9:38 pm

    Kay will be pleased to see that someone managed to comb Sherrod Brown’s hair.

    Also, very smart to slot him in after all of the military stuff and dare the BoBs to boo him.

  4. 4.

    rikyrah

    July 28, 2016 at 9:38 pm

    Mr. Khan was fabulous!!

    This is AMERICA.

  5. 5.

    MobiusKlein

    July 28, 2016 at 9:38 pm

    Funking Bernie putz on NPR talking about needing a very big clothespin to vote for her. Pish and Tosh

  6. 6.

    japa21

    July 28, 2016 at 9:39 pm

    This night may well have been the night that seals the victory for Clinton. I am not being complacent, but if Trump goes after any of these speakers he will offend at least 1/3 of those currently thinking of voting for him.

  7. 7.

    Mnemosyne

    July 28, 2016 at 9:39 pm

    @PigDog:

    I missed it — I was listening in the car.

    Somebody should make a GIF.

  8. 8.

    Mike J

    July 28, 2016 at 9:40 pm

    Dem Convention dot com has multiple streams, live from the podium and backstage, as well as Spansih and 360.

  9. 9.

    Tom Levenson

    July 28, 2016 at 9:40 pm

    @MobiusKlein: A punchable face if ever there was one. I don’t think he gets what it means to win an election.

  10. 10.

    Quinerly

    July 28, 2016 at 9:40 pm

    @ellie:
    Me too. Kinda wanted him for VP but I’m thrilled with Kaine. Sherrod’s hair looks good tonight.

  11. 11.

    LAO

    July 28, 2016 at 9:40 pm

    @PigDog: my personal favorite moment of this convention.

  12. 12.

    dmsilev

    July 28, 2016 at 9:40 pm

    @Mnemosyne:

    Also, very smart to slot him in after all of the military stuff and dare the BoBs to boo him.

    They’re probably up to the challenge.

  13. 13.

    Baud

    July 28, 2016 at 9:41 pm

    How’d they get rid of his rasp?

  14. 14.

    James E Powell

    July 28, 2016 at 9:41 pm

    He’s wearing Hugo Boss – Back in my Cleveland lawyer days, I got all my suits at the factory. Sherrod Brown put together the deal to keep that place open & union.

  15. 15.

    Kay

    July 28, 2016 at 9:42 pm

    @Mnemosyne:

    Trump was in Toledo yesterday. His “glassware” isn’t made in the Glass City, Sherrod wants you to know :)

    Imagine his gross, tacky glasses anyway. All crusted with fake gold that comes off in the dishwasher.

  16. 16.

    Quinerly

    July 28, 2016 at 9:42 pm

    Ok, what’s the deal with Sherrod’s lapel pin? Should we prepare for incoming attacks tomorrow?

  17. 17.

    Mike J

    July 28, 2016 at 9:42 pm

    @japa21:

    if Trump goes after any of these speakers he will offend at least 1/3 of those currently thinking of voting for him.

    I wish the war=bad=military=bad people could figure out that not all of our outreach has to be aimed at them. The people chanting “no more war” over the general really weren’t helping anything.

  18. 18.

    ellie

    July 28, 2016 at 9:42 pm

    @Quinerly: He makes me want to move back to Ohio.

  19. 19.

    Keith P.

    July 28, 2016 at 9:42 pm

    Crowd is electric, as if someone rubbed a comb over a balloon.

  20. 20.

    debbie

    July 28, 2016 at 9:42 pm

    @japa21

    The thought that’s gone into the scheduling is really impressive.

  21. 21.

    Quinerly

    July 28, 2016 at 9:43 pm

    @Baud:
    And I love the rasp.

  22. 22.

    Mnemosyne

    July 28, 2016 at 9:43 pm

    @dmsilev:

    I heard a little stir, but they seem somewhat quiescent.

    And, I gotta say, anyone who expected the Democrats to become the pacifist, isolationist party was living in a dream world. Even Bernie was going to use our military as needed if he was elected.

  23. 23.

    cckids

    July 28, 2016 at 9:43 pm

    Open thread, so . . . here goes.

    Goddammit. We found out today that one of my husband’s best friends killed himself Tuesday. Hiked up into the Spring Mountains and used his fucking gun. He’s fought depression for 20 years. More than once, has been hospitalized for it. We made a point of talking to him 1-2 times a week at least, just to check on him. He was a good, gentle, decent man.
    The note he left talks about his despair in seeing Trump’s rise and the accompanying ugliness inherent in his campaign and his supporters. See, he was raised by Holocaust survivors, who (probably too much), told their kids stories of the camps and how no-one could be sure that it couldn’t happen in America.
    There are actual, real-world consequences to letting the hate flag fly so high. I’m heartbroken here.

  24. 24.

    Baud

    July 28, 2016 at 9:43 pm

    @Kay: He’s doing great.

  25. 25.

    LAO

    July 28, 2016 at 9:44 pm

    @Baud: I miss the rasp.

  26. 26.

    Mike J

    July 28, 2016 at 9:44 pm

    @Quinerly:

    Ok, what’s the deal with Sherrod’s lapel pin? Should we prepare for incoming attacks tomorrow?

    It’s a Dalek. He was there.

  27. 27.

    some guy

    July 28, 2016 at 9:44 pm

    my 8 and 9 year olds are watching. this is the America I want for them, and they are seeing people who look like them participate. staying up late, but my son especially needs to see and hear this. They hate the racist demagogue, and they know their parents are Bernie voters, ndd now they are coming to understand why we are all in for Hill. tomorrow morning is gonna be tough, but tonight will help them better understand what this is all about.

  28. 28.

    Baud

    July 28, 2016 at 9:44 pm

    @cckids: Damn. That sucks so much.

  29. 29.

    PigDog

    July 28, 2016 at 9:44 pm

    @Mike J:

    Most military officers I know look at conflict as a last resort. When the general said “all instruments of national power” that was straight out of doctrine. Military force comes last.

  30. 30.

    rikyrah

    July 28, 2016 at 9:45 pm

    @EWErickson 17m17 minutes ago
    That Khan speech would have been a speech you’d see at a GOP convention in the Bush era, but not the Trump era.

  31. 31.

    Quinerly

    July 28, 2016 at 9:45 pm

    @MobiusKlein:
    I have some suggestions as to where he can put that very large clothespin. Anybody want to hold that Bern Feeler down for me.

  32. 32.

    Quinerly

    July 28, 2016 at 9:47 pm

    @Mike J:
    I guess you have heard the controversy over the “Honduran flag.”

  33. 33.

    MobiusKlein

    July 28, 2016 at 9:48 pm

    @Tom Levenson: I don’t think the “third party is OK outside of swing states” is a message that defeats Trumpler.
    Putz.

  34. 34.

    Mnemosyne

    July 28, 2016 at 9:48 pm

    @cckids:

    I’m so sorry. G’s best friend killed himself 16 years ago and he felt guilty for years afterwards. He read a book afterwards called “Night Falls Fast” that he said really helped — it’s by a psychiatrist who is herself bipolar and has attempted suicide, so she’s studied a lot about it.

  35. 35.

    rikyrah

    July 28, 2016 at 9:48 pm

    The Mercy Rule

    …By the time a hero astronaut had introduced his wife, a hero congresswoman, it was over.

    By the time a Marine and a Navy man had both validated Hillary Clinton’s Commander-in-Chief card, it was over.

    But then came Uncle Joe Biden, roaring out on his Harley and red-white-and-blue jumpsuit, whipping his Ray Bans off and and leading the crowd in a rousing chorus of “USA!USA!”.

    And then the Invisible Hand of the Marketplace made itself manifest in the person of Michael “No Labels” Bloomberg. And the Invisible Hand was swinging a 100 foot Vorpal Sword with which he proceeded to gleefully lay about the Terrible Orange Jabberwocky:

    One, two! One, two!
    And through and through
    The vorpal blade went snicker-snack!
    He left it dead, and with its head
    He went galumphing back.

    Then came Tim “Martin Minivan Buren” Kaine who made us all scrambled eggs and cracked us up with his goofy-dad Donald J. Trump impressions while cheerfully name-checking…
    …Jesuits
    Social Justice
    Faith
    Family
    Work
    The Nobility of public service
    and the United States Marine Corps.
    It was over. It was over. It was so over.

    And then the sweetest, funniest, feistiest Gold Star Mom and school board member straight from Frank Capra central casting in the world walked up to the microphone to introduce her president. The speech that President Obama delivered after her introduction is already being translated into every language on Earth, shared on every media site and will be studied by school kids on our Martian colonies a century from now, so since you can find it anywhere (and rightly so) let us instead give the floor of this tiny blog to Mrs. Sharon Belkofer of Rossford, Ohio:

    …It was over. It was already so over.

    And then President Obama delivered what I can best describe as the “Morning In America” speech Abraham Lincoln might have given at the end of his second term had a radical Christian white supremacist not cut him down in one of the greatest acts of domestic terrorism in American history.

    Day Three of the DNC was, collectively, the most comprehensive political beat-down I have ever seen….

  36. 36.

    rikyrah

    July 28, 2016 at 9:50 pm

    @cckids:
    Sorry about your friend.

  37. 37.

    Quinerly

    July 28, 2016 at 9:51 pm

    @efgoldman:
    Yep. Deep Ohio connections, though. A girl can dream. Actually I think even if Ohio had had Dem governor, she made a better pick in Kaine. He’s a better speaker…and that Honduran flag pin rocks!?

  38. 38.

    eclare

    July 28, 2016 at 9:51 pm

    @cckids: oh I’m so sorry. Such a violent end.

  39. 39.

    cckids

    July 28, 2016 at 9:51 pm

    @Mnemosyne: Thank you. I need to get that. He left my husband’s name as a contact, so he got the phone call, and had to go ID the body. He has had the police (more than once) take his friend’s guns when he was having a severe depressive episode. But, of course, he always got them back after 30 days. Because of the holy 2nd Amendment.

    Thank you again.

  40. 40.

    Kay

    July 28, 2016 at 9:51 pm

    @rikyrah:

    His father had a lot of presence. It’s so odd how all these regular people are so good at this. They’re outshining the pols.

  41. 41.

    SiubhanDuinne

    July 28, 2016 at 9:52 pm

    @ellie:

    I love Sherrod Brown and I love Connie Schultz. What a formidable and engaging team!

  42. 42.

    Mnemosyne

    July 28, 2016 at 9:52 pm

    @rikyrah:

    I love that the Republicans have only just realized that while they were trying to prevent Obama from triangulating them on legislation, he instead triangulated them out of patriotism. Democrats own it now, thanks to President Obama.

    As I said yesterday, it’s our “shining city on a hill” now, not Reagan’s, and we’ve made it diverse.

  43. 43.

    Baud

    July 28, 2016 at 9:53 pm

    @Quinerly:

    Honduran flag pin = this year’s terrorist first bump.

  44. 44.

    Mnemosyne

    July 28, 2016 at 9:53 pm

    Okay, the BoBs are going to try to fuck up the card stunt. Guaranteed.

  45. 45.

    Lizzy L

    July 28, 2016 at 9:53 pm

    @cckids: Ah, I’m sorry. So painful.

  46. 46.

    Baud

    July 28, 2016 at 9:53 pm

    THESE INSTRUCTIONS ARE TOO COMPLICATED!!!

  47. 47.

    Quinerly

    July 28, 2016 at 9:53 pm

    @Kay:
    That has amazed me too. The speakers who were just regular people this afternoon were incredible

  48. 48.

    debbie

    July 28, 2016 at 9:53 pm

    @Quinerly:

    Don’t want to lose my senator, but boy, he’d have cost Trump plenty of union votes.

  49. 49.

    Anne Laurie

    July 28, 2016 at 9:54 pm

    There’s been so many wonderful speakers tonight, and now Rep. Xavier Becerra is more than keeping up that standard! I know there was some talk about him for HRC’s vice-president — I’m damned sure he’ll be a prominent voice on our DEEP BENCH going forward!

  50. 50.

    PsiFighter37

    July 28, 2016 at 9:55 pm

    Katy Perry eh?

    I like her shiny dress.

  51. 51.

    Adam L Silverman

    July 28, 2016 at 9:57 pm

    @efgoldman: Even the strippers didn’t make any money!
    http://gawker.com/my-week-stripping-in-cleveland-during-the-rnc-1783863633

  52. 52.

    Mike E

    July 28, 2016 at 9:57 pm

    @MobiusKlein: He meant this clothespin, a Philly icon next to City Hall…whadda jokester, that one!

  53. 53.

    Adam L Silverman

    July 28, 2016 at 9:57 pm

    @Mnemosyne: I wonder how many people it took to hold him down?

  54. 54.

    Quinerly

    July 28, 2016 at 9:58 pm

    OMG! Is the microphone red, white, and blue?

  55. 55.

    Denali

    July 28, 2016 at 9:59 pm

    @cckids,

    I am so sorry.

  56. 56.

    Baud

    July 28, 2016 at 10:00 pm

    @Quinerly: Honduran flag colors.

  57. 57.

    cckids

    July 28, 2016 at 10:00 pm

    @Denali: @Lizzy L: @eclare: @rikyrah: Thank you all.

  58. 58.

    The Thin Black Duke

    July 28, 2016 at 10:01 pm

    @cckids: Oh God, I’m so sorry.

  59. 59.

    Adam L Silverman

    July 28, 2016 at 10:01 pm

    So when do they do the citizen’s arrest of Secretary Clinton?
    https://twitter.com/BobbyAllyn/status/758773925069266945

  60. 60.

    Mike J

    July 28, 2016 at 10:01 pm

    @PsiFighter37: Not my favorite music, but she seems like a nice girl. Yesterday was Juliana Hatifeld’s birthday. I would have put her and Neko Case on, and 17 other people would have watched with me.

  61. 61.

    hovercraft

    July 28, 2016 at 10:01 pm

    @cckids:
    That’s terrible, I’m so sorry for your husbands and your loss.

  62. 62.

    ?BillinGlendaleCA

    July 28, 2016 at 10:01 pm

    Tim Kaine is with the Big Dawg.

  63. 63.

    Keith P.

    July 28, 2016 at 10:01 pm

    @PsiFighter37: Can’t wait to see what Lady Gaga (she’s on tonight, right?) comes out with. Hopefully, she’s rocking the dark eyebrows (her blond eyebrows make me think she’s about to slit someone’s throat)

  64. 64.

    Schlemazel Khan

    July 28, 2016 at 10:01 pm

    @cckids:
    Depression is a bitch. It doesn’t just take your will to live it convinces you that the is no reason to live & that the world would be better off without you. Sorry for your loss, particularly after such a ling fight.

  65. 65.

    SiubhanDuinne

    July 28, 2016 at 10:02 pm

    @cckids:

    Oh jeez. Sorry doesn’t begin to say it. What a tragedy.

  66. 66.

    Mnemosyne

    July 28, 2016 at 10:02 pm

    I hope this doesn’t come across the wrong way but, as a woman, I like that Katy Perry isn’t skin and bones. She’s got boobs and a butt and a little tummy, and she wore a skintight horizontal-striped dress anyway.

    Still don’t like her music, though.

  67. 67.

    Gin & Tonic

    July 28, 2016 at 10:03 pm

    @Adam L Silverman: I’m sure the Secret Service is delighted at the prospect.

  68. 68.

    Adam L Silverman

    July 28, 2016 at 10:03 pm

    @Quinerly: I’m stumped on this one. Star Trek mirror universe Imperial Fleet insignia?
    http://vignette2.wikia.nocookie.net/startrek/images/f/f5/Kirk_and_Spock_(mirror).jpg/revision/latest?cb=20130729211624

    They’re on the right side of the chest too!

  69. 69.

    ?BillinGlendaleCA

    July 28, 2016 at 10:03 pm

    @Baud: They gave the instructions at the beginning and I laughed so hard I almost fell out of my chair(we did card stunts at UCLA).

  70. 70.

    Schlemazel Khan

    July 28, 2016 at 10:06 pm

    @Adam L Silverman:
    They will learn what the Secret Service does for a living if they try

  71. 71.

    debbie

    July 28, 2016 at 10:06 pm

    @cckids:

    Condolences. I’m sure your friend didn’t realize the pain he’d be inflicting on the people who love him.

  72. 72.

    WaterGirl

    July 28, 2016 at 10:07 pm

    I thought Sherrod Brown did good! I kind of like his usual tousled hair, but he looked good tonight. I wonder what they did about his voice? I like the raspiness, too, but he sounded good anyway.

  73. 73.

    Kay

    July 28, 2016 at 10:07 pm

    @debbie:

    My son told me tonight his electrician’s local members are not voting for Trump. They were talking about the Obama speech today and he says it sounds like they;re voting for “the Democrat”. They’re renovating a retirement residence for nuns.

  74. 74.

    Dnfree

    July 28, 2016 at 10:08 pm

    @cckids: So sorry for your loss. We have experienced this in our family as well. A funeral director once said to us that no one realizes how often this happens. It is seldom mentioned in obituaries.

  75. 75.

    cckids

    July 28, 2016 at 10:09 pm

    @The Thin Black Duke: @hovercraft: @Schlemazel Khan: @SiubhanDuinne: Thank you all.

  76. 76.

    amk

    July 28, 2016 at 10:10 pm

    @Adam L Silverman: bs deadenders?

  77. 77.

    mike in dc

    July 28, 2016 at 10:10 pm

    According to this “Chelsea Clinton” person, her mother is not an actual demon. Who knew?

  78. 78.

    cckids

    July 28, 2016 at 10:10 pm

    @debbie: I know he was beyond thinking of it. Too much pain for too long.

  79. 79.

    rb

    July 28, 2016 at 10:11 pm

    @cckids: That is devastating. I’m so sorry.

  80. 80.

    James E Powell

    July 28, 2016 at 10:11 pm

    What’s up with Bill? He’s looking like he might drop off.

  81. 81.

    Quinerly

    July 28, 2016 at 10:14 pm

    @James E Powell:
    I was worried about him too.
    Is he trying to keep from crying?

  82. 82.

    mike in dc

    July 28, 2016 at 10:15 pm

    @James E Powell:

    He’s looking pretty verklempt..

  83. 83.

    peej01

    July 28, 2016 at 10:15 pm

    @Quinerly: I suspect so.

  84. 84.

    Adam L Silverman

    July 28, 2016 at 10:22 pm

    @cckids: My sincerest condolences.

  85. 85.

    Adam L Silverman

    July 28, 2016 at 10:23 pm

    @Gin & Tonic: Indubitably.

  86. 86.

    Adam L Silverman

    July 28, 2016 at 10:24 pm

    @amk: No quite clear based on what was in the tweet.

  87. 87.

    Miss Bianca

    July 28, 2016 at 10:27 pm

    @cckids: Oh, dear! I have gone thru’ that myself – friends and family who just couldn’t take it anymore for some reason. It sucks in so, so many ways – my condolences to you.

  88. 88.

    Miss Bianca

    July 28, 2016 at 10:31 pm

    @Adam L Silverman: Excuse me, but…WT everlovin’ F? Is this a joke?

    I imagine if they tried anything of the sort they’d end up having a nice lengthy chat with some Secret Service people, yes? Are these folks so steeped in Fantasyland that that won’t have occurred to them, or are they looking to become martyrs? (I’m going to presume they’re white, so the possibility of getting shot during their crusade probably won’t have occurred to them either).

  89. 89.

    debbie

    July 28, 2016 at 10:36 pm

    @Kay:

    Good. Those guys have got to come to their senses.

  90. 90.

    Adam L Silverman

    July 28, 2016 at 10:39 pm

    @Miss Bianca: No, yes, and yes.

  91. 91.

    akryan

    July 29, 2016 at 3:41 am

    Something horrible to leave you with as you go sleep: Donald Trump will start getting national security briefings starting tomorrow.

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